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Tuesday, June 23, 2009
Huckabee Endorses Rubio; Continues to Impress
Posted by: Matt Lewis at 3:30 PM
We knew this was going to happen, but now it's official.  Mike Huckabee has endorsed former House Speaker Marco Rubio over Governor Charlie Crist for the U.S. Senate in Florida.  Here's his official endorsement:


As someone who has been critical of Huckabee in the past, let me say I admire his courage here -- and I also think this is smart strategy.  

While many of his potential 2012 opponents all have PACs -- HuckPac has been especially good at coming out early for conservatives in tough primary campaigns.  What is more, he seems to be identifying conservative candidates who -- whether they win or lose -- have a strong and loyal base in their state.

Let's suppose Rubio loses.  He will still be a conservative rock star who can command crowds in Florida.  And while every establishment Republican is begging Charlie Crist for support (which he will withhold until he already knows who will win so he can once again be a kingmaker), whom do you think Rubio will support in the Florida primary?  

I've got one hint for you: His name is Huckabee.  Why?  Because candidates who are in Rubio's shoes are very appreciative of support.  Anyone can send you a check and endorse you after you win the nomination -- but the early support is what matters and what is appreciated.  


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KayAnn writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 3:38 PM
Rubio wants to arm protesters
That was his idea of helping in Iran. Ronald Reagan and George Bush I armed both Iran and Iraq during the war in the 80s, and that is acknowledged now as one of the big problems of our intervention during that time. Is Rubio completely unaware of history and our effect on the Iranian people over the years?

It's too bad that Huckabee is now backing Rubio over Crist who is one of the few moderate and thoughtful Republicans in the public eye.
RASHUM writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 3:45 PM
Rubio
This is huge pick up for Rubio. There is no better race that conservatives can send a message to the Washington, DC insiders that this primary in Florida. The NRSC has no business backing Crist in the primary. Hopefully Rubio beats him!
SJA writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 3:48 PM
Crist
People like Crist are exactly why the repubs lost. Conservatives, the true republicans are tired of these middle of the road politicians. Only when we get back to our conservative values and promote conservative candidates will we prevail.
Joe writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 4:02 PM
The definative Sullivan put down...
http://newledger.com/2009/06/through-the-looking-glass-with -andrew-sullivan/

Because after he is done with Palin, Huckabee or any GOP challenger to Obama is next.
peacefrog writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 4:35 PM
KayAnn/ 3:38pm
Rubio never, ever said he want's to "arm the protesters"

What he said was: "I have a feeling the situation in Iran whould be a little different if they had a 2nd ammendment like ours".

Moron!

kelley writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 5:11 PM
Sounds good....
President Rubio.
Wendy writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 5:29 PM
ssssssyeahright
What is so courageous about it? Huckabee wants to be President in 2012, and Crist is being hailed as a possible contender. The Huckster loses nothing if Crist loses this race. He has always been about himself at the expense of the Party.

And I say that as someone who thinks Crist is a RINO and should not be elected.
NeoConScum writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 5:48 PM
Crist Is a Smooth, Silky,Smarmy Politico
that makes me itch any time I see him. One of those empty-get along people who've been making their smooth way from their first student council meeting.

His tepidness is all the more obvious here in Florida after the years of a true class man, Jeb.
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 5:53 PM
Good for Huckabee!
I am glad to see a public conservative take a shot at Charlie Crist who is another backstabing moderate that grow government and takes away American liberties. We don't need anymore moderates! We need Reagan conservatives! I hope all prominent conservatives will support publiclly Rubio over the RINO Crist! Get these damm moderates out of power, screw them! Look how these moderates have destroyed the GOP over the last eight years and now we have a marxist in the White House.
Larry writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 5:57 PM
Huck Is Principled....
1) It would be very easy to go along with the crowd and support Crist...I guarantee you that fraud Romney will support Crist....Huck is a principled man...he says what he believes and believes what he says

2) Rubio supported Huck in 2008 and will do so again in 2012; when the Huckaboom 2.0 takes effect.
Don't Tread On Me writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 5:58 PM
KayAnn
"Moderate" Republicans (read:RINO)are the problem. They should ALL be thrown overboard.

Let them go join the Dems.
Origanalist writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 6:18 PM
huckster
I agree with Wendy, the huckser left a bad taste during the last election. Go Rubio!
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 6:32 PM
Don't Tread On Me
You wrote:

""Moderate" Republicans (read:RINO)are the problem. They should ALL be thrown overboard.

Let them go join the Dems."


I totally agree with you!
Stoic Patriot writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 6:33 PM
Good to see
I'm happy to see Huckabee getting behind yet another principled Conservative. I'm not sure Crist is beatable, but that doesn't mean there's no reason to try.
KayAnn writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 6:37 PM
Don't tread on me
They are already joining the Democratic party, and we welcome their support. The Republican Party is becoming a regionalized entity with very little future at this point. It's not a good thing to kick out the few remaining rational voices you have, but that seems a point that the GOP doesn't want to bother entertaining.
Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 6:42 PM
Gee, TH has changed its tune
on Huckabee. I remember last year, when he was harrassing Romney, how you guys were calling him a "Socialist" and making fun of every misstep.

Now you guys probably realize he's the only bright star you have with such dim bulbs as Sarah "The Flintstones was a documentary" Palin, Mitt "Magic Underpants" Romney and Bobby "How may I provide excellent service" Jindal.

My reservation about him is that he's still a religious nutter, but he's a likable religious nutter, because I think he actually GETS what Jesus was trying to say.
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 6:56 PM
Certain facts that needs to be addressed
KayAnn this notion that the Republican Party is becoming a regional party, oh and the Demoncratic Party is not? The Gallup Poll pointed out that this country is 40% conservative, moderates are at 35%, and liberals are 21%. See poll here:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/Conservatives-Single-Larg est-Ideological-Group.aspx/

The problem is that since George Bush took the GOP to the left since 2000, the conservatives in the GOP base who bolted by 2006 after years of Bush's big government policies and entitlement programs, and finally amnesty for millions of illegals and a refusal to do anything about the border. I know because me and my whole family did so. Bush was a moderate and McShame was a moderate. The last election when we had real conservatives was 1994, then came George Bush who destroyed the GOP. The only true conservative on the national scene has been Sarah Palin.

What do conservatives have to do to win in 2012? You have to run a true conservative in the Reagan mold and get that 40% rock solidly behind ya, then you go for simply 1/3 of the moderates based on integrity and good governance and this will put one at 52% majority vote and the White House. That is what Reagan did in 1980 and it worked beautifully and he never compromised his conservative principles in the process. Personally I believe that Sarah Palin is the only political figure who can pull this off.
Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 7:20 PM
Allan Crazy
"That is what Reagan did in 1980 and it worked beautifully and he never compromised his conservative principles in the process."

Me- Except when he signed arms reduction treaties, gave amnesty to illegal aliens, raised taxes, enlarged social security, ran the National Debt of to Four Trillion... but other than that, he was as straight as could be.

"KayAnn this notion that the Republican Party is becoming a regional party, oh and the Demoncratic Party is not? The Gallup Poll pointed out that this country is 40% conservative, moderates are at 35%, and liberals are 21%. See poll here:"

Considering 20% of self-described conservatives voted for Obama, that doesn't mean much.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1

All that tells me is that after 30 years of villifying the word "liberal", people don't want to be associated with it.

Of course, what you call conservative is actually being a religious reactionary... Sorry you can't see the difference.

But Palin's popularity is even plunging in Alaska..

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/05/07/palin_populari ty_plunges_in_alaska.html

"A new Hays Research poll shows Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) now has 54% positive rating and 42% negative rating among Alaskan voters.

That's a dramatic change from the 86% positive and just 9% negative a year ago.

By comparison, Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) now has an approval of 76.3%."

Heeeeelllllo Gov. Murkowski!

Caribou Barbie is going to be shown the door in 2008.



Tom Ketchum  writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 7:22 PM
mike
will win the gop nomination in 2012.
peacefrog writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 7:38 PM
Eugene
"Caribou Barbie is going to be shown the door in 2008".

I suggest you buy a calender.

Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 7:41 PM
Froggie
You're right. She was ALREADY shown the door in 2008.

SHe'll be shown the door in 2010...

Then you guys will have to find some other snake handling loon to follow.
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:03 PM
Ah The Obama Drone part 1
I used to call Eugene the Dumb As* and he still is a Dumb As* but my new name for him is "The Obama Drone", since he is a big BO guy.

I wrote:

"That is what Reagan did in 1980 and it worked beautifully and he never compromised his conservative principles in the process."

The Obama Drone wrote:

“Except when he signed arms reduction treaties, gave amnesty to illegal aliens, raised taxes, enlarged social security, ran the National Debt of to Four Trillion... but other than that, he was as straight as could be.”

Yeah okay idiot name all the entitlements Reagan passed? Any major department created under Reagan? No? Thought not. Deficits? Yeah it was called an arms race in the cold war and Reagan’s philosophy pulled off the collapse of evil empire, much to your dismay Obama Drone.

I wrote:

"KayAnn this notion that the Republican Party is becoming a regional party, oh and the Demoncratic Party is not? The Gallup Poll pointed out that this country is 40% conservative, moderates are at 35%, and liberals are 21%"

The Obama Drone wrote:

“Considering 20% of self-described conservatives voted for Obama, that doesn't mean much.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#USP00p1”

LOL…Yeah since when did CNN ever have an accurate poll, oh yeah never! Please put your trust in CNN polls, this would make us conservatives very happy! I personally love the “self-described conservatives” these would be your Charlie Crist, Colin Powell, Olympia Snow, and Susan Collins types. These are not true Traditional Reagan Conservatives. Let them join the Demoncratic Party since they share the same political ideology.

See next post for continuation!
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:03 PM
The Obama Drone part 2
The Obama Drone wrote:

“All that tells me is that after 30 years of villifying the word "liberal", people don't want to be associated with it. Of course, what you call conservative is actually being a religious reactionary... Sorry you can't see the difference. But Palin's popularity is even plunging in Alaska..

Uh hmmm…yeah because your analysis has always been spot on! Obama Drone sorry but your track record on issues has been, oh shall we say less than “accurate” in the past. I do not really care what you have to say since 95% of the time you are wrong…LOL

The Obama Drone writes (with a link!):

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/05/07/palin_populari ty_plunges_in_alaska.html

"A new Hays Research poll shows Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) now has 54% positive rating and 42% negative rating among Alaskan voters. That's a dramatic change from the 86% positive and just 9% negative a year ago.
By comparison, Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) now has an approval of 76.3%."

LOL…LOL…LOL…Yeah know it is gonna be great when he is campaigning for Obama in 2012 against Sarah Palin because this guy is an idiot. Any first year political science class will tell you that any poll conducted with less than 1000 likely voters polled is worthless. Heck I learned this from a former Democratic strategist who happened to be one of my college professors. So you are asking why am I mentioning this point. Because this poll he cites by its own admission stated, “In this survey we asked 400 Alaskans about Sarah Palin and Lisa Murkowski.”. That is 60% less than what a poll would need to even be in the ball park of accuracy. My gosh with the intelligence levels like this Obama Drone, us Palin guys & gals will have much to celebrate about if she decides to run in 2012!
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:09 PM
LOL...I always wonder?????
I alway have to wonder where you far lefies get such cheesy names? LOL "PeaceFrog" pretty lame. "Careful With That Axe, Eugene", just plain stupid and "Eugene" is a name for limp wristed whimps. "White Salamander", just gay sounding. "Vladimir", hey at least it's a good communist name!
COLDPLAYLOVER writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:14 PM
Drone
I hit the wrong button on the radio yesterday and heard this levin guy use that word.

You are all a bunch of followers of right wing wackies on the radio.
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:21 PM
Some words are just fit so well!
Hey if it fits the use it!
peacefrog writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:24 PM
Allen
Peacefrog is a DOORS song.

"far leftie"? Me?

Let's see, Reagan 80 and 84

Bush HW 88 and 92

Dole 96

Bush W 00 and 04

McCain 08

Don't let the moniker fool ya my friend.

Take care.

Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:27 PM
Hey another Drone!
Another BO Drone wrote:

"You are all a bunch of followers of right wing wackies..."

You mean Ronald Reagan, and fellow Reagan conservatives? Then Yeah you got me. I don't wanna take too much of your time so that you can get back and resum worshipping The "DUMB" One, the "messiah" of loons, Obama!
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:30 PM
Okay Peacefrog
Let me guess your a Bush Neo-Con right? Which is as bad as the left, and it is still a stupid name.
peacefrog writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:34 PM
Allen
Wrong again son!

I'm more of a Reagan Conservative.

Stupid name? Maybe. But a great fukkin song.

Anyway I could give a rats as.s what you think.

Take care Al.
Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:38 PM
Froggie
I want to apologize for Allan. He's obviously just nuts...

I think we've disagreed on this board on just about everything, but I've never found you to be disagreeable.

Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:39 PM
Okay Peacefrog
I take back the liberal part, but I still do not like the name (just being honest). Yet don't you see a drift in the GOP from when Reagan left office (save the 1994 revolution) to the "moderate" side? Can you really put Dole and Bush in the same category as Reagan? Would you consider yourself a conservative first or a Republican first. Just curious not trying to put you on the spot.
Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:39 PM
Cold Play
You mean Allan is actually PLAGARIZING material from someone else?

Well, that doesn't surprise me, I doubt the guy has an original thought in his head.

Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:42 PM
Oh geeze
Hey look The Obama Drone is back!
Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:46 PM
Allan Crazy
"Yeah okay idiot name all the entitlements Reagan passed? Any major department created under Reagan? No? Thought not. Deficits? Yeah it was called an arms race in the cold war and Reagan’s philosophy pulled off the collapse of evil empire, much to your dismay Obama Drone."

Well, expanding Social Security I'd call a pretty major entitlement... but more to the point, we spent 4 trillion on weapons we didn't need to secure the collapse of an enemy that wasn't really a threat?

I want a refund!

AC-Yeah since when did CNN ever have an accurate poll, oh yeah never!

Me- CNN said Obama was going to win and.... he won. That's an accurate poll.

As far as Palin, I think the problem is that because she's been put on the stage as a national figure, people in her home state are scrutinizing her now.

And If I'm Lisa Murkowski, and I have a 89% approval rate and Caribou Barbie is down to 54 and sinking, and this See You Next Tuesday (think about it) was the one who toppled my father, I'd be looking really close at challenging her.

Keep in mind, how quickly people stopped talking about George Allen after he lost in 2006.

Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:47 PM
Allen Crazy
Oh, look, the Talk Radio Drone is back...

Are you going to stay up until 1:32 again ranting against people you don't like... because that isn't much of a life, dude.
NeoConScum writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:48 PM
Peacefrog...Like Your Stuff and The Way
you carry yourself in this neighborhood. I AM a George W.Bush supporter AND an Evil Neoconservative who thinks this Allen guy's lithium tank is about a quart low. Having agreed with *MCL on this one point will probably make him suicidal--Oh, well. :-)


*Multiple Cloned Lefturd* (Axie, et-al.)
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:48 PM
I use many sources!
Feminazis- Rush Limbaugh

NAGS (The National Association of Gals)- Also Limbaugh

Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder- Michael Savage

The loony left- Dennis Prager

The Obama Drone- Mark Levin

The "Dumb As*" Eugene- Okay that one is mine!

When someone comes with a great idea stcik with it I say! Although I confess Levin is my favorite!
peacefrog writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:55 PM
Allen
Dole, Bush in the same catagory as Reagan? Nope not at all, but I never skip a vote (even if I gotta hold my nose when I do it. And I just consider myself a plain ole conservative republican with a touch of isolationist.
peacefrog writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 8:59 PM
Eugene
No one knew the Soviet Union was a paper tiger until after Reagan brought the wall down.

To look back in hind sight and say they weren't really a threat is a little dishonest.

Im outta here, take care all.
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:04 PM
The Obama Drone continues.
I wrote:

"Yeah okay idiot name all the entitlements Reagan passed? Any major department created under Reagan? No? Thought not. Deficits? Yeah it was called an arms race in the cold war and Reagan’s philosophy pulled off the collapse of evil empire, much to your dismay Obama Drone."

The Obama Drone wrote:

“Well, expanding Social Security I'd call a pretty major entitlement... but more to the point, we spent 4 trillion on weapons we didn't need to secure the collapse of an enemy that wasn't really a threat?”

Oh you mean having to fund an institution that was going bankrupt because the Demoncrats raid the trust fund. Oh yeah I do not recall Reagan having the votes needed to phase it out. Having to save social security is a far cry from a new entitlement. Try again Obama Drone

The Obama Drone wrote:

“CNN said Obama was going to win and.... he won. That's an accurate poll.”

Too bad it came 8th in terms of accuracy! I’ll stick with Rasmussen which is the best.

The Obama Drone wrote:

“As far as Palin, I think the problem is that because she's been put on the stage as a national figure, people in her home state are scrutinizing her now.”

No the problem is that the Demoncrats and some liberal Republicans have turned on her, it is to be expected.

The Obama Drone wrote:

“And If I'm Lisa Murkowski, and I have a 89% approval rate and Caribou Barbie is down to 54 and sinking, and this See You Next Tuesday (think about it) was the one who toppled my father, I'd be looking really close at challenging her.”

Too bad there is no accurate poll that states this at this time.
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:09 PM
Peacefrog that is fair
You wrote:

"Dole, Bush in the same catagory as Reagan? Nope not at all, but I never skip a vote (even if I gotta hold my nose when I do it. And I just consider myself a plain ole conservative republican with a touch of isolationist."

Okay that is fair, I was just curious. Were you a Huckabee supporter or did you go with Ron Paul? Are you frustrated with were the GOP has been? You support Rubio right?

Look sorry about mixing you up with The Obama Drone, Vlad and their ilk. Very unkewl of me. Still just being honest I don't like the name, but the Doors were way before my time.
Julie writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:10 PM
Huckabee / Palin 2012
It seems to me that many have no idea the pull Palin has with conservative women, but Huckabee "gets it".

We are mothers. We are earners. We are tax payers. We do not want our children and grandchildren saddled with debt. We do not want hyperinflation in thier high school/college/graduation years to ruin their spirits.

Vote in 2010! And do everything you can in your state to get these snakes out of office.
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:18 PM
Hey Neoconscum
I love the name by the way! Hey if you don't like me I am fine with that. I am not exactly happy with how you clowns destroyed the GOP over the last eight years. I think as a political ideology your day in the sun is over, I love the fact that the GOP base is sick of your policies and political figures. Funny how after the election every Republican I saw on TV who is considered a contender for 2012 claimed that the GOP needs to get back to our conservative roots, which means under you guys and Bush we left our conservative roots. I love the fact that anyone eyeing 2012 is distancing themselves from the neo-cons. The problem with you guys is that you're too liberal for the GOP base and too conservative for the Democratic Party, it is a losing position to be in.
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:20 PM
Julie question?
Do you think Palin would accept a second VP slot? I am not sure that she would. I think she wants to be #1 on the ticket too much for that. I may be wrong, but why do you think she would do so?
Julie writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:21 PM
Caribou Barbie?
Anyone who insists on calling the Governor of Alaska "Caribou Barbie" should be dismissed.

We are talking about a person who changed the face of politics in a huge state, and is more knowledgable than most of us on many issues.

Face it, people--Palin knows more about the drilling industry and executive leaderhip than anyone else in the lineup.
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:22 PM
Julie are you the girl...
Are you the pretty girl, that wrote that attractive women get the shaft or something like that?
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:24 PM
Ah Julie
You wrote:

"Face it, people--Palin knows more about the drilling industry and executive leaderhip than anyone else in the lineup."

AH, I am loving you already!
peacefrog writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:25 PM
Allen
By the time the primary got to PA, McCain already had the nomination so I did a write vote for Casper Wienberger.
peacefrog writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:27 PM
I was gonna............
........write in Alexander Haig but they would've probable threw me in jail.
Julie writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:28 PM
Allen,
Good question. I don't know. I've heard Palin might run for Senate in 2010. I think it's a bad idea, although it would give her experience in D.C.

That's not what I want. I want less experience in D.C. For every one of our reps.
NeoConScum writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:32 PM
Allen..Like Nearly ALL the Lefturds Here
you have hardly a clue as to what neoconservatives are. Too, too funny. Your other obvious similarity is that you're a compulsive poster, desperately in NEED of his own blather. Usually NOT the way of Conservatives.

(Long Ago)Former Demcrat, mugged by reality. That, son, is what a neocon is. Baa-Daa-Bing. Like dat.
Julie writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:37 PM
Allen,
Love back at you! There are many women who support Gov. Palin. I went to her VP debate rally in St. Louis and got to see her and her whole family in person (including cute little Piper).

My sister (small business owner) and my Dad (war veteran and retired career military) went with me.
peacefrog writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:39 PM
What is a neocon?
"Former Democrat, mugged by reality. That son, is what a neocon is".

Worthy of Websters my friend.
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:41 PM
Hi Julie
Julie you wrote:

"Good question. I don't know. I've heard Palin might run for Senate in 2010. I think it's a bad idea, although it would give her experience in D.C. That's not what I want. I want less experience in D.C. For every one of our reps."

Actually she ruled out running for the senate a while back. Funny in the news right now is whther she is even going to run for governor of Alaska in 2010 and just focus on 2012 full time, which many think that Tim Pawlenty is going to do. Personally I think she should remain as governor of Alaska and get two more years experience in before 2012. In 2010 she is a shoe in for Alaska, and it will be a high profile election. Also, I am sure she can run nationally and still effectively run her state.
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:43 PM
Ya making me jealous!
You wrote:

"Love back at you! There are many women who support Gov. Palin. I went to her VP debate rally in St. Louis and got to see her and her whole family in person (including cute little Piper).

My sister (small business owner) and my Dad (war veteran and retired career military) went with me."

You have no idea how jealous I am of you! My gosh she creamed Biden in that debate, it was awesome!
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:45 PM
Peacefrog
You wrote:

"By the time the primary got to PA, McCain already had the nomination so I did a write vote for Casper Wienberger."

Former defense secretary, or am I wrong? Why him?
Julie writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:52 PM
NeoConScum
Perhaps you should let people ease into conservativism? Rather than calling people "leftturds"?

Is this the playground, where we bully, or an intelligent exchange of ideas?
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:56 PM
Neo-Con
You wrote:

"you have hardly a clue as to what neoconservatives are. Too, too funny. Your other obvious similarity is that you're a compulsive poster, desperately in NEED of his own blather. Usually NOT the way of Conservatives.

(Long Ago)Former Demcrat, mugged by reality. That, son, is what a neocon is. Baa-Daa-Bing. Like dat"

Yes I know about your movement, led by Irving Kristol considered the father of Neo-Conservatism. I know that you guys back in the 1970's became disgruntled with the Democratic Party because you guys believed that L.B.J's Great Society went too far, but at the same time those of this movement are comfortable with F.D.R's policies. Many consider you guys to be the right wing of political liberalism, and I tend to agree with this conclusion. I do not use the term Neo-Con in a derogatory sense, it is an established political philosophy of which I happen to disagree with. It basically took over the GOP after Reagan, save briefly after the 1994 congressional elections. Yet it came back with a vengence under George Bush. Look as I said before Neo-Conservatism is a losing ideology. It's big government programs are too liberal for the GOP base which is why many conservatives stayed home in 2006 and 2008. It is too liberal for the GOP base, and too conservative for the Democratic Party. Personally I think it's day is over, the GOP base is sick of it.
Julie writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 9:59 PM
Allen,
Yes, Palin creamed Biden. (Where is he, anyway?)
The media covered it up. I'm so sick of it I could scream.
NeoConScum writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 10:02 PM
Julie, Dear..Stern Finger Wag Duly Noted
and, no disrespect intended, I'll pass on giving most of the Lefty Klusterers & Polluters on these threads the respect of which you ask. Pass.

This is simple diverting pamphleteering for me. Not to be taken seriously. A nice place to comment, exaggerate, offend the mindless clones and trolls and rollick with some fine friends. Nuthin' more.

Oh, and call me Neo.
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 10:04 PM
Julie
You wrote:

"Is this the playground, where we bully, or an intelligent exchange of ideas?"

Personally it really depends on whom you are talking to. I have debated and defeated White Salamander aka Careful With That Axe, Eugene on many occasions. This guy is pure scum, he lies through his teeth and is off the charts filled with hatred of all things conservative, not to mention all things Christian! Not to leave out the fact that he thinks he's "brilliant" when all he does visit amatuer leftwing websites copy and paste and claims that he's a genius. Funny too, he "claims" to have a degree in history but funny he works in the auto industry. I guess the academic world was too hard for him. I can tolerate arrogance in people, but not when it is combined with stupidity as it is with this guy.
Julie writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 10:06 PM
Saul Alinsky
If someone--anyone--can prove that our current Commander In Chief and President was not influenced by the teachings of Alinsky, plase let me know.
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 10:08 PM
Julie
You wrote:

"Yes, Palin creamed Biden. (Where is he, anyway?)
The media covered it up. I'm so sick of it I could scream."

I know 41 major gaffs by Biden in that debate and it was completely covered up by the Democratic press core(aka the lib media). I understand your frustrations.

Hey I am still curious are you the one attarctive women that wrote about things being hard for attractive women? I ask because I found your point to be interesting.
Julie writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 10:10 PM
NeoConScum
Hey, Neo, try making some sense.
NeoConScum writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 10:14 PM
Peacefrog...
Thank you, Sir.

President Reagan, whom I admired greatly, was not any body's 'isolationist'. Nor is Rush...Nor is Hugh Hewitt...Nor is National Review.

There was a time when I admired FDR. Gone are those days, as are my Democrat days, though I remained registered that way until we moved from L.A. in '06 and settled in Central Florida. ONLY registered, mind you, having not voted for them since 1980--and, God, do I regret dimpling THAT chad!

Now..Into bed and my current wonderful Vince Flynn thriller,"Transfer of Power"...His Mitch Rapp series are ALL wonderful, intricately plotted and edge of the seat FUN!
NeoConScum writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 10:17 PM
Julie...10:02pm..Focus..Focus..Focus..
There. Third read's a charm. :-)

Nighty-night, Kid.
Julie writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 10:17 PM
Allen,
If you want to talk about that go to my private area. Facebook:Jabourghougs
Allen Caeden writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 10:26 PM
Julie
You wrote:

If you want to talk about that go to my private area.

Fair enough
afuel writes: Tuesday, June, 23, 2009 11:01 PM
Good
move by Huckabee for the country and FL. Seeing crist kiss up to the Messiah post election was the final straw. I figured Crist and Lieberman were inside shills for the Dems during the campaign, leaking directly to the masters the daily ins and outs.

Post election there's Crist getting his big taxpayer bailout and publicity with his Messiah, disgusting.

No time left for RINO's, they must got he way of the Progressive. Huckabee has the right answers, integrity, experience and proof his ideas work plus he has always been that way, its is pedigree.
Riders on the Storm writes: Wednesday, June, 24, 2009 12:10 AM
I still wouldn't vote
for Huckabee in the primary. But, he's doing the right thing by endorsing Rubio. Go, Marco!
Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Wednesday, June, 24, 2009 6:27 AM
Frog
"No one knew the Soviet Union was a paper tiger until after Reagan brought the wall down.

To look back in hind sight and say they weren't really a threat is a little dishonest.

Im outta here, take care all."

Me- Well, that's a sad commentary, isn't it? Why didn't we know that? The CIA had a budget in the tens of billions, and they couldn't tell us that?

Could it because we had an entire military-industrial complex that NEEDED a threat to justify it's existence and the trillions spent on defense?

People who visited the Soviet Union in the 1970's realized what the problems were, the ethnicities that didn't get along and the economic inefficiencies. That they had to spend half their GDP in order to keep up with us militarily. We knew from the Arab-Israeli conflicts that in combat their equipment was vastly inferior.

Where would we be today if we had invested those trillions of dollars in infrastructure, education, improving our industry to be more competitive?
Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Wednesday, June, 24, 2009 6:29 AM
Neo-
Peacefrog...Like Your Stuff and The Way
you carry yourself in this neighborhood. I AM a George W.Bush supporter AND an Evil Neoconservative who thinks this Allen guy's lithium tank is about a quart low. Having agreed with *MCL on this one point will probably make him suicidal--Oh, well. :-)

Me- Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day...
Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Wednesday, June, 24, 2009 6:35 AM
Allen Lithium
(Sorry, Neo, had to steal that!)

AC-"Oh you mean having to fund an institution that was going bankrupt because the Demoncrats raid the trust fund. Oh yeah I do not recall Reagan having the votes needed to phase it out. Having to save social security is a far cry from a new entitlement. Try again Obama Drone"

Me- Please. Reagan fixed Social Security because he was pragmatic enough to know that the American people wouldn't tolerate it going insolvent.

AC- "No the problem is that the Demoncrats and some liberal Republicans have turned on her, it is to be expected."

Me- Damn straight. Corrupt, a Religious nutter, incompetant. Sadly, that makes her the perfect candidate for the Theo-Cons. If Murkowski runs against her, I might send Murkowski money.

Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Wednesday, June, 24, 2009 6:43 AM
Allan Lithium
"Personally it really depends on whom you are talking to. I have debated and defeated White Salamander aka Careful With That Axe, Eugene on many occasions. This guy is pure scum, he lies through his teeth and is off the charts filled with hatred of all things conservative, not to mention all things Christian! Not to leave out the fact that he thinks he's "brilliant" when all he does visit amatuer leftwing websites copy and paste and claims that he's a genius."

Me- Again, I don't consider the current conservative movement to be conservative at all. The Neo-Cons and Theo-Cons have turned the GOP into something I don't recognize anymore. Neither do most Americans. They aren't a majority in the GOP (Keep in mind, McCain WON the nomination,not Romney or Huck), but they influence it far too much.


"Funny too, he "claims" to have a degree in history but funny he works in the auto industry. I guess the academic world was too hard for him. I can tolerate arrogance in people, but not when it is combined with stupidity as it is with this guy."

Me- When Neo says you are off your lithium, you should probably listen...

Actually, I wish I was in the UAW. I work for a company whose counts the auto industry amongst its customers (and I'm not saying more than that.) Actually, the last three jobs I've had were partially involved in the auto industry, that's how pervasive the Auto industry is. It's just not Chyrsler and GM that will suffer, it's hundreds of other companies that supply them.
David writes: Wednesday, June, 24, 2009 11:36 AM
Good for Rubio
and Good for Huck! I didn't know he had it in him. I will vote for Rubio but probably not Huck).
NeoConScum writes: Wednesday, June, 24, 2009 12:40 PM
Frog & *MCL..."Paper Tiger" My Arse !
The Soviet paradox was the External Expansion and the Internal Decline. It may have been a 'wounded tiger', but that didn't make it less dangerous. The Soviets had far out produced us in weaponry in the 70s, at the height of so-called Detente--while Cawtah fiddled--and launched an ocean of blood in Afghanistan as an accurate read of Jimmah's weakness and kick in the head of American tepidness. But, by GAWD, Jimmah showed Leonid what a tough guy he was by not attending the Olympics! Lucky us, we're now saddled with Cawtah-2 and every thug on the planet has him figured.
Allen Caeden writes: Wednesday, June, 24, 2009 4:40 PM
Great News for Palin & some for Huckabee
Sarah Palin is the top choice for Republican “moderates”, yeah that’s right Sarah Palin surprises all by being the top choice of GOP “moderates" and not just conservatives in the GOP according to the Public Policy Poll released today.

You can find it here:

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/06/palin-moder ate-choice.html

“One interesting fact within our national poll looking at the 2012 Presidential picture last week: Sarah Palin is the most popular potential candidate with moderate Republicans.

61% have a favorable opinion of her to 53% for Mitt Romney, 50% for Mike Huckabee, and 44% for Newt Gingrich.

She's generally thought of as the darling of the conservative wing of the party- and she's the most popular there too as 83% view her positively to 79% for Huckabee, 77% for Gingrich, and 69% for Romney- but it may come as a surprise that she's tops with moderates as well.”

A new Pew Poll also has very good news for Sarah Palin:

http://people-press.org/report/524/republican-favorability

Among Republicans, however, the balance of opinion about Palin is more positive than it is regarding Romney or other leading GOP figures, Newt Gingrich and Michael Steele. More than seven-in-ten Republicans (73%) express a favorable opinion of Palin while just 17% have an unfavorable opinion. Romney, Gingrich and especially Steele are less familiar figures – among the public overall and Republicans – than is Palin. While comparable percentages of Republicans rate Palin and the other Republicans unfavorably, far more view Palin favorably. And Palin continues to be overwhelmingly popular with key parts of the GOP base – white evangelical Republicans (84% favorable) and conservative Republicans (80% favorable).

It seems that God has a sense of humor because both of these polls came the day after Eugene The Obama Drone claimed that Sarah Palin was done. Boy this has to really pissssss him offfff!
Allen Caeden writes: Wednesday, June, 24, 2009 4:44 PM
Sorry but...
Don't have time to debate today, just came online to read the news and pay some bills, I have a ton of work to do. Still I thought this would be news pertaining to this blog topic and a quick slap in the face to The Obama Drone.
Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Thursday, June, 25, 2009 6:25 AM
NeoChickenHawk
"The Soviet paradox was the External Expansion and the Internal Decline. It may have been a 'wounded tiger', but that didn't make it less dangerous."

Me- the point I made, that you ignored, was that the fact it was in decline was missed by the Reagan Administration, which had no idea that the Wall was going to come down a year after he left. The "Evil Empire" was just a collection of third world countries...

" The Soviets had far out produced us in weaponry in the 70s, at the height of so-called Detente--while Cawtah fiddled--"

Me- Yes, they produced a lot of inferior weapons that couldn't touch us technilogically...

"and launched an ocean of blood in Afghanistan as an accurate read of Jimmah's weakness and kick in the head of American tepidness."

Me- Actually, the Afghans invited the Soviets in to keep order. They had established a communist government on their own in 1978. What got those Soviet Afghans in trouble is that they tried to westernize the country, by educating women, getting rid of the Burqa, etc. You know, all the things you NeoCons say we ought to be doing.

Oh, yeah, and Reagan's answer? Hey, let's give a bunch of weapons to Muslim extremists... Hey, there's that Bin Laden Kid. Let's give him some guns.

"But, by GAWD, Jimmah showed Leonid what a tough guy he was by not attending the Olympics! Lucky us, we're now saddled with Cawtah-2 and every thug on the planet has him figured."

Actually, Carter and Obama both reflect the attitude of the day. After wasting blood and treasure in a war in a faraway land with no benefit to us, (Vietnam, Iraq) the American people aren't in the mood for pointless foreign adventures. The real problem BOTH of these guys have is that they are attempting to project power when they know that the public won't tolerate another war.
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