Thursday, April 03, 2008
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What do Bogart, Kirk, & McCain Have in Common?
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Posted by:
Matt Lewis at
9:42 AM
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News flash: Humphrey Bogart never said, "play it again, Sam," Captain Kirk never uttered, "Beam me up, Scotty" -- and John McCain never promised a hundred year war!
... The danger, of course, is that everybody thinks Bogie and Kirk said those now famous lines. And if we're not careful, the public may also mistakenly believe McCain said he wanted a hundred year war. As Churchill may, or may not have said: "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on."
Of course, this lie isn't just spreading itself. The fact that Barack Obama and Howard Dean continue to intentionally mischaracterize John McCain's statements -- and mislead the public -- obviously creates a level of difficulty that may other misquoted victims haven't had to confront (the obvious exception is Al Gore -- the man who "invented" the internet).
This type of negative politics might be expected of Howard Dean, but Barack Obama claims to offer a new type of politics. Yet he's playing the same old partisan games of mischaracterization. (Will "hundred yearing" somebody replace "swiftboating" as jargon used by the media to describe an unfair or untrue attack? It's doubtful).
John McCain is actually the one who has run a new type of campaign. And my hope is that McCain's reputation as a "straight-talker" -- and an honest broker -- will help inoculate him from these tawdry attacks. I also hope that the emergence of YouTube, as well as a more informed public, will serve to set the record straight in a way that wasn't possible in the past.
Still, I fear this could stick. It's easy to say McCain wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years. That fits on a bumper sticker. But explaining the truth takes at least a paragraph. As P.T. Barnum may have said, "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people."
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Virginia Patriot is right. Stop sugar coating your opinion and tell us what you really think.
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Being short
Oh, being the wife of a middleaged man who loved Star Trek, you were wrong. Kirk did say, on many occasins "Scotty, beam us up, or Beam us up Scotty." I think that was close enough.
As for the hundred years, the fact that Mccain used that reference at all shows his ignorance. When you are a senator, what you say carries no weight, but if you are the President, words matter.
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The left is crawling with inveterate liars!
Wow, who woulda suspected that?
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We gave the canal back to Panama….
I think we need to give McCain back to Panama!
I think we need to deport his Senile Geriatric A** back to Panama and send his liberal Bunk Buddies (Liberalman and Graham) with him.
They can see how well Mexico protects it's southern Border. |
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Tell us how youn really feel, ;) |
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What do Bogart, Kirk, & McCain Have in Common?
Is it that they are all Brain Dead???
Could it be that they are all Lying Liberals???
Funny how you RINOs did not say a word when McCain continuously lied and mischaracterized
Romney on Troop Withdrawls from Iraq.
Funny how you RINOs did not say a word whem McCain said that everyone that opposed McCain-Kennedy was a Racist Biggot.
Funny how none of you RINOs were bothered when McCain said that anyone who called McCain-Kennedy "Amnesty", was a Liar.
(Even though he himself called it Amnesty several times)
I still have not seen his name backing the "Save Act"! In fact, I heard he was pulling strings behind the scenes to block its passage.
McCain is a Lying Arrogant Liberal Rat Ba$tard!
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"WE'LL KEEP KILLING 'EM UNTIL THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT FREEDOM IS ALL ABOUT"
Great quote. |
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No matter how hard I try to keep down the bile, every time I think of pulling the lever for McCain I feel like vomiting. Regardless of how much I can't stand the Clintons, if Shrillary is the Democrat candidate, she will get my vote. However if Obama is the nominee, I'll bring a barf bag to the voting booth.
McCain is a stain on the Repulican party and is a large part of the reason for the apathy or downright depression amongst Republicans. |
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Feel free to correct me, but I believe we invested 100 of billions (trillions now) of dollars in Europe & Asia after the ever admired & popular WWII. AND we still have Military Bases and Troops there now... to help with their defense... 63 years later.
To my knowledge, no one has proposed a date when we will abandon these bases and "Bring our Troops Home".
If we still have a national backbone of any kind, we'll honor our commitments - whether they're always popular with everyone - or not.
Unless I've missed something, honorable behaviors and practices are not tied to clocks, calendars or individuals' personal comfort. |
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FROM MYSTERY WRITER:
DON'T ANY OF YOU CLOWNS DO ANY READING OTHER THAN BLOGS AND THE INTERNET ITSELF??
MCCAIN WAS EXAGGERATING....WE'LL STAY AS LONG AS IS NECESSARY. IT IS UP TO THE RADICAL ISLAMIST....WE'LL KEEP KILLING 'EM UNTIL THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT FREEDOM IS ALL ABOUT. I'D RATHER FIGHT THIS WAR ON THEIR TURF THAN ON OURS. WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT TAKING THIS THING TO THEIR FRONT DOOR INSTEAD OF OURS. ONCE THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ SHOW US THEY DON'T WANT FREEDOM THEN WE SHOULD LEAVE. WHEN WILL THAT HAPPEN?....WE'RE BACK TO THE 100 YEARS THING AREN'T WE? WAKE UP, DIG IN, AND GET READY.....UNLESS YOU WANT TO CAVE IN AND BECOME A BELIEVER OF ISLAM. WHAT A BUNCH OF SCAREDY-CATS. WHERE DID YOU LEARN YOUR WORLD HISTORY - FROM COMIC BOOKS! |
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Wow, the media distorts things? Really? No way!
While McCain didn't say it and of course it's goofy that they are trying to pin it on him. I think McCain's left-leaning stance on SO MANY issues is the thing that will down him in this campaign.
I saw this sticker the other day which epitomizes the feelings conservatives pretty well: http://www.reluctantvoter.com
Sigh.... how did we get here? |
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FROM MYSTERY WRITER:
DON'T ANY OF YOU CLOWNS DO ANY READING OTHER THAN BLOGS AND THE INTERNET ITSELF??
MCCAIN WAS EXAGGERATING....WE'LL STAY AS LONG AS IS NECESSARY. IT IS UP TO THE RADICAL ISLAMIST....WE'LL KEEP KILLING 'EM UNTIL THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT FREEDOM IS ALL ABOUT. I'D RATHER FIGHT THIS WAR ON THEIR TURF THAN ON OURS. WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ABOUT TAKING THIS THING TO THEIR FRONT DOOR INSTEAD OF OURS. ONCE THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ SHOW US THEY DON'T WANT FREEDOM THEN WE SHOULD LEAVE. WHEN WILL THAT HAPPEN?....WE'RE BACK TO THE 100 YEARS THING AREN'T WE? WAKE UP, DIG IN, AND GET READY.....UNLESS YOU WANT TO CAVE IN AND BECOME A BELIEVER OF ISLAM. WHAT A BUNCH OF SCAREDY-CATS. WHERE DID YOU LEARN YOUR WORLD HISTORY - FROM COMIC BOOKS! |
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Just seems to me that Obama and Dean and others are using the tactic that McCain used with much more boldness and deciet on Romney. When McCain did it to Romney everyone including the moderator knew McCain was lying about what Romney said right to our faces. Don't you remember McCain insisting on the most absurd interpretation of Romney's words, even while Romney sat right next to him?
Personally I hope this really hurts McCain. He used this tactic with more zeal on his running mate than the dems are using it on him. What goes around, comes around.
Besides, as much as everyone wants to feel sorry for Johnny for being picked on like this, they aren't seeing what the good side to this whole thing is. It makes the war an issue again, which is the only thing anyone trusts McCain to do. That is at least he'll win the war while he sends us into a depression by giving amesty to everyone and taxing us for his "global climate" policies. |
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Lewis:
You're flatly wrong.
Frey:
You trimmed the quote to cut out the part in question.
Here's the truth, from the horse's . . . mouth itself:
In a New Hampshire town hall meeting on Jauary 3, 2008, Mccain was asked by a citizen to respond to Bush's claim that America could be tied up in Iraq for 50 years or more. McCain immediately responded, without hesitation:
"Maybe 100 years. We've been in Japan for 60 years. We've been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That would be fine with me, as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed."
How he expects us to occupy Iraq for 100 years without any casualties I leave to him and the little fairy that whispers insane stuff into his ears when no one's looking, but the undisputable fact is that he said he thought US troops could be in Iraq for 100 years and that was "fine with him".
The video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFknKVjuyNk
After that, the crazy fairy completely got to him and he started repeating himself, apparently trying to sound nuttier and less realistic each time. He told a Mother Jones reporter that it might be "a thousand years" or "a million years".
http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/01/6735_m ccain_in_nh_wo.html
Not caring much about orders of magnitude, he then told Face the Nation it might be "a thousand years or ten thousand years".
Video here: http://video.aol.com/video-detail/mccain-americans-fine-wi th-troops-in-iraq-for-10000-years/1013049141
McCain is like Kirk, it's true, in that people say a lot of stupid, uninformed nonsense about his TV appearances. But on the issue of 100, er . . . 1,000 . . . 10,000 . . . uh, one million years in Iraq, they keep saying he said it because he keeps saying it. |
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So, please enlighten me and be honest, if your commitment to stay in Iraq remains: 'until the job is done', would not that mean you WOULD, in fact, stay 100 years or more if the Iraqi government can't get it together, or we still face armed resistance groups, guerilla warfare, and foreign jihadis stirring up trouble?
Or is there an actual point prior to that century mark, when you would join the majority of Americans and say, "Enough is enough"? |
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"We've been in Japan for 60 years. We've been in South Korea for 50 years or so." "That would be fine with me, as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed."
Fair enough, that his quote has been twisted, but what McCain hasn't said is how he soon he expects Iraq to become as peaceful as Japan or South Korea. How long will that take? |
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You gotta look at this link:
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/04/absolut-ly-outrag eous-ad-in-mexico-city.html
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What comes after "Secure the border first"? |
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"News flash: Humphrey Bogart never said, "play it again, Sam," Captain Kirk never uttered, "Beam me up, Scotty" -- and John McCain never promised a hundred year war!"
Looks like someone's been staying current with Sunday crossword puzzles! People who don't do crossword puzzles just don't understand how handy they can be. |
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P. T. Barnum MAY have said that...but H. L. Mencken is usually credited with it.
Doesn't change the validity of your overall argument, however. And a reminder that we've been in Germany for better than 60 years. And Japan. I await Howard Dean's reaction when he finds out about it. |
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Well, what McCain did say is that American troops could remain in Iraq for possibly a hundred years. I think this is a dopey thing to say. McCain compared the situation to Korea, I believe, and we should have been out of Korea at least ten years ago. On the other hand, it wasn't clear that he was advocating that position rather than simply stating the possibility.
BTW, Greg, of course McCain, Obama, and Hillary are all liars. Let's get back to basics: how do you tell when a politician is lying? ans: when their lips move. |
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If you buy the straight-talker and honest broker myths, you are either gullible or not too bright...or perhaps both.
McCain, Obama and Hillary are all liars. |
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