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Sunday, October 19, 2008
Newsweek Debunks "Kill Him" Rumors; Obama Knew They Were Bogus Before Debate
Posted by: Matt Lewis at 2:03 PM
Newsweek reports that not only were the reports that folks attending a McCain rally yelled "kill him" likely false -- but also that Obama knew these reports were false before using them in last week's debate:
"During a heated moment in his final presidential debate with Sen. John McCain, Sen. Barack Obama noted the anger of some supporters at rallies for McCain's running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. "All the public reports suggested," Obama said, that people shouted "things like 'terrorist' and 'kill him'." Making a death threat against a presidential candidate can be a crime. But even before Obama cited "reports" of the threats at the debate, the U.S. Secret Service had told media outlets, including NEWSWEEK, that it was unable to corroborate accounts of the "kill him" remarks—and according to a law-enforcement official, who asked for anonymity when discussing a political matter, the Obama campaign knew as much. Now some officials are disgruntled that Obama gave added credence to the threat by mentioning it in front of 60 million viewers. At this point in the campaign, said one, candidates will "say anything to make a particular point."
This, of course, is merely the latest example of Obama's willingness to inaccurately portray himself as a victim and flagrantly gin up sympathy votes, while simultaneously, ignoring the really, really objectionable behavior his own supporters engage in (viewer discretion advised).

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Harold writes: Wednesday, October, 22, 2008 4:04 PM
"Kill Him"
The Joseph Goebbels media will jump at anything to make Republicans and McCain supporters look bad and make Obama look sympathetic. Perhaps someone at a McCain rally did say "Kill him." He may have just been referring to the election, as in "We'll kill him in the voting booth." American slang uses such terms as can be interpreted any way the hearer desires. There are very few of us who have not said words to the effect "I'll kill him," when someone says something about us as a joke or something but we seldom mean that we actually are going to kill him. Obama and his supporters are nothing but a bunch of whining crybabies (so is the entire Democrat party for that matter) who whine about anything and everything. I do not like John McCain but the whining and BS attacks from the left, especially against Sarah Palin, are doing what John McCain has been unable to do and that is to get me to vote for the GOP ticket.
aj writes: Wednesday, October, 22, 2008 8:17 AM
dream on
William. BHO might get elected this time, but after he destroys our country, and after Joe Biden's predictions come true he'll lose in landslide in 2012. After all IF he gets elected, he'll be WAY WORSE than Jimmi Carter and we all know how Jimmi's bid for re-election went.......
Tea Party writes: Tuesday, October, 21, 2008 8:47 PM
Have
any of you considered that if true the "kill him" statement could have come from a plant? Who quickly disappeared lest they be discovered, arrested and the real truth is revealed. That's
a Saul Alinsky tactic, isn't it?

I'm suspicious about his mercy mission to the grandmother he threw under the bus, the white one that contributed some of her white genes via her white daughter to this monster. I read it as more of a ploy for sympathy..why if he really cared for her, didn't he fly over there as soon as he'd heard the news??? hmmmmm? Could be a sign he needs a sympathy vote cuz he's tanking?

I'm with you Joyce,boomerbabe and the rest of you who are furious about the way SARAH has been treated by the Obama campaign and media
press agents for the campaign. I hope there are many more angry women, especially democrat women who will NOT vote for this marxist, racist, lying
charletan. And I am not a feminist, I'm just a traditional stay at home mom and grandmom.
uisignorant writes: Tuesday, October, 21, 2008 9:27 AM
Keith
GG Liddy was not a terrorist, did not kill and served his time.

BIG difference.
uisignorant writes: Tuesday, October, 21, 2008 9:24 AM
Kill'em
Could have been as in sports usage; if it was even said.
william writes: Tuesday, October, 21, 2008 3:07 AM
Real time
Obama is a Christian. I wish he were a Muslim. He could be a Muslim and still be President. It isn't illegal.

He's a Black Man -- and he's probably going to have to give some of your money away to pay for these stupid wars.

Yup. All the above is true. And one more thing.

He's going to be your President for the next 8 years. Get used to it.
Robin writes: Tuesday, October, 21, 2008 12:41 AM
Keith and TruthHurts...
When you can cite a source more reliable than the Huffington Post, perhaps you will have some small amount of credibility. Until then, not so much.
TruthHurts? writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 11:38 PM
Reading other posts??
One of the posters here "Keith at 2:40PM 10/19" noted the Truth...There were two (2) separate "Kill him" threats...One in Scranton, PA and one in Clearwater, Fl..Now let's not let the facts get in the way of a good ol round up....Yeee Haw!
steve writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 11:11 PM
Change
Obama promises change if he is elected. If I remember correctly, that is exactly what the Democrats promised if they were to gain control of Congress. Well they gained control, and we did indeed get change. I guess we forgot to ask if the change would be for the better or worse. The Democrats have been controlling us for the last two years and have been voted the worst in history. That being said, I wonder why people are falling all over themselves for Obama because he promises change. I guess that we do not learn from our previous mistakes.
maldain writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 7:40 PM
re: Nancy
A couple of small points. First of all after speaking to a number of people at the rally not as participants in the rally but people who work the venue the secret service could find nobody who heard any such thing except the reporter which claimed to have heard it.

Next you allege that the secret service is somehow in a conspiracy to cover this up. Sorry toots but the secret service doesn't have political opinions. If they did several of our presidents wouldn't have survived in office. The secret service doesn't participate in the government it's not a Praetorian Guard it's protection for our elected officials and candidates running for office. They get assigned to whom they guard by their superiors.
USAconservativemom writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 5:05 PM
I opened the last link in this
post. I only had to scroll through the first couple of pictures. What do we expect from the political party of no morals? This is the anything goes party. Everyone knows that it's the democrat party that says it's just fine to abort babies, marry a gay lover, take In God We Trust out of anything remotely considered public domain.

Why would anyone on the right be surprised at the depths of depravity that these so called human beings would stoop to?

The real question is, are the majority of Americans that still believe in the greatness of this country and that we were founded One Nation Under God, going to turn out on Nov 4th and make a statement to these Godless liberals? I continue to pray that we do.
CAROL writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 2:32 PM
TAFT is dishonest like hussein
Taft writes: Sunday, October, 19, 2008 9:13 PM
Obama was honest


You're a total liar just like hussein! If any of the crap you spew were true, it would be all over the news media who've been bought by your racist candidate. And Liddy was not a terrorist or a foul-mouth, racist, blaspemous cult leader...take your pick of wright or farrakhan. Both hate America...hussein obamation and his spouse hate America. Get a job, Taft, as you're going to need it when your messiah doen't win the presidency!
Sherry writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 2:31 PM
Kathy, it's best just to wait it out
They are only allowed a couple of hours a day of computer priveleges at the asylum. You'll know when they have been taken back to their padded rooms. Sanity returns.
Kathy writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 2:26 PM
Taft
You are as full of it as Nancy is. Would you mind telling us here why Obambi would not address the horrid T-Shirts about Sarah and the "C" word when it was brought up in the debate.................

Will wait for response. I realize you have to sip your Kool-Aid slowly.
Kathy writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 2:21 PM
Nancy
Now I know why you are always so full of $h!t. Your head is constantly up your A$$. Go somewhere else and post, nobody likes your lying drivel here.
Right Makes Might writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 11:59 AM
This just in ...
… Barack Obama is a despicable human being!

Of course he’s gonna repeat a vulgar, horrible lie if he thinks he can milk it for votes. That’s the field on which we play. Deal with it. Our task is to just come out in such overwhelming numbers that no amount of Democrap sleaze can combat us.

Oh yes, and get those videocams rolling. Document ACORN bussing its people around to vote a dozen times on Election Day. The only thing that’s gonna be killed is the Democrap vote fraud machine.
LLR writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 10:51 AM
Obama-Castro
Obama-Castro
Obama= Free Health Care, Free Education,Spread the Wealth, Hates Freedom of Press
This person will destroy our country as we know it.
And you fools are too blind to see it!
Compare Obama's thoughts with Communist Countries.
Your Party isn't as IMPORTANT as KEEPING OUR FREEDOMS!
GET YOUR HEADS OUT!
WE don't want to be ruled you dumb butt Libs, if you want to be ruled by a friggen Tyrant then leave and go live in Cuba
DON'T SCREW WITH OUR FREEDOMS!
DON'T SELL OUT OUR FREEDOMS TO THIS FOOL!
wHY DO YOU THINK CUBA AND VENEZULA SUPPORT OBAMA!

Fidel Castro
he combined health care and education, so children of all social and economic classes would be
able to receive adequate health care
The government today is in charge of all educational institutions.
Castro eliminated all private and religious educational institutions
He created free-of-charge education for all

The lifestyle of the average Cuban citizen was greatly altered. The primary beliefs of communism include that the working class is in charge of the government, privately owned property is illegal, the money of the country should be given in equivalent amounts to all citizens, and the government runs the lifestyle of its country’s residents. Education is also an important part of Cuba’s Communist government. As Castro had hoped for, these changes did have impressive short-term effects for Cuba. Serious illness and economic hardship were almost nonexistent and Cuba had the greatest number of teachers and doctors in that area of the Caribbean within ten years of the onset of Communism (Jervis 2). Cuba seemed to be looking toward a brighter future with Castro in charge.
However, other unpopular policies were enacted. Castro eliminated elections and freedom of the press, imprisoned political opponents, and made religion a thing to be ashamed of (Jervis 2). Castro then

AmericanWoman writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 10:50 AM
He knew it was a lie and left out
all the disgusting garbage his campaign has been throwing out at Sarah Palin. Obama = Artful Dodger = cannot be trusted on any level.
jtb-in-texas writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 10:33 AM
Obama and his handlers are no more
Christian than they are pro-American...

The murder the unborn. They lie easily and needlessly. They promise everything and deliver nothing...

May the LORD rebuke them.
rushshambula writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 10:10 AM
What about Obama saying
"get in their faces"? He was talking about intimidating friends and family members into voting for him. The idea that someone at a rally saying something about B O reflects GOP voters or our nominee is absurd.

The media needs to get their chest out of B O's mouth and let him sink or swim on his own merit
Salvatore writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 9:41 AM
DONT TRUST CBS NBC ABC CNN MSNBC.
DONT TRUST CBS NBC ABC CNN MSNBC,
because they want to elect Obama,
the DAMAGE that Obama, Pelsoi, Reid, will do,
we would not be able to repair it,
the country we know as,
The United States of America,
would never be the same,
I would take 4 more years of Bush,
then Obama,
remember who does the polls?
who do they call, not me or any one I know,
and in my business I talk to a lot of people and not one person as been called for a poll,
so think about this the media is trying to elect Obama,
but on nov 4th the people will speak their minds at the voting polls,
McCain/Palin 08
Salvatore writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 9:40 AM
DONT TRUST CBS NBC ABC CNN MSNBC.
DONT TRUST CBS NBC ABC CNN MSNBC,
because they want to elect Obama,
the DAMAGE that Obama, Pelsoi, Reid, will do,
we would not be able to repair it,
the country we know as,
The United States of America,
would never be the same,
I would take 4 more years of Bush,
then Obama,
remember who does the polls?
who do they call, not me or any one I know,
and in my business I talk to a lot of people and not one person as been called for a poll,
so think about this the media is trying to elect Obama,
but on nov 4th the people will speak their minds at the voting polls,
McCain/Palin 08
Salvatore writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 9:38 AM
DONT TRUST CBS NBC ABC CNN MSNBC.
DONT TRUST CBS NBC ABC CNN MSNBC,
becaus they want to elect Obama,
the DAMAGE that Obama, Pelsoi, Reid, will do,
we would not be able to repair it,
the country we know as,
The United States of America,
would never be the same,
I would take 4 more years of Bush,
then Obama,
remember who does the polls?
who do they call, not me or any one I know,
and in my business I talk to a lot of people and not one person as been called for a poll,
so think about this the media is trying to elect Obama,
but on nov 4th the people will speak their minds at the voting polls,
McCain/Palin 08
Salvatore writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 9:36 AM
DONT TRUST CBS NBC ABC CNN MSNBC.
DONT TRUST CBS NBC ABC CNN MSNBC,
becaus they want to elect Obama,
the DAMAGE that Obama, Pelsoi, Reid, will do,
we would not be able to repair it,
the country we know as,
The United States of America,
would never be the same,
I would take 4 more years of Bush,
then Obama,
remember who does the polls?
who do they call, not me or any one I know,
and in my business I talk to a lot of people and not one person as been called for a poll,
so think about this the media is trying to elect Obama,
but on nov 4th the people will speak their minds at the voting polls,
McCain/Palin 08
LLR writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 8:20 AM
Obama
Obama is a Liar! He is a socialist! Obama only cares about Obama! He could care less about Americans, he just wants to be president!

You libs are determined to destroy a wonderful country by voting in this LOSER!
Crystal writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 1:40 AM
Obamabots lead by example
but AP Obama never picks up the story:

Clearwater - CLEARWATER Frank Armstrong was preparing to go for a jog this morning when he noticed his Lexus – adorned with a McCain-Palin sticker - had been vandalized with obscenities and a burned American flag.

Armstrong discovered the damage to his 2006 Lexus about 8:30 a.m. at his Sand Key condominium at 1400 Gulf Blvd. Clearwater police and Armstrong said someone etched obscenities and "KKK" into the paint, burned several areas of the car with cigarettes, set the flag on fire on his hood and may have urinated on the vehicle. Officers and Armstrong think the car was singled out because of its political stickers, including one reading "Nobama."

"This is definitely a hate crime," said Armstrong, a 41-year-old physician.

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/oct/18/owner-believes-lexu s-vandalized-due-mccain-sticker/
Michele writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 12:58 AM
Libs lie...
Obama supporter's on this post, you continue to deny reality. The secret service proved this. It is their job. The little journalist lied. It goes with being a blind, lying liberal.
Franklin writes: Monday, October, 20, 2008 12:00 AM
obama=antichrist?
seen that OBAMA MESIAH is a smooth talker, he perhaps can walk on water. With all the animosity and specifically attacking the Republicans, and blaming McCAIN as a BUSH...then it is fair that OBAMAMESIAH is linked to his palling around with domestic terrorist. This terrorist HAS NOT, I repeat, has not apologized to the people he killed, and yes...he uses the race card to victimize himself and gets the sympathy of the guilty liberals, including all the MSM media that are gooshing for him to pave the path to POWER. Maybe you all will have to bow down to "the one", "Messiah". So much for the Audacity of Hope, it is more the Audacity of DECEIT.
karmic backlash writes: Sunday, October, 19, 2008 11:01 PM
"Debunks"? Hardly
The secret service can't substantiate the claim - so? Doesn't mean that those who reported it didn't hear what the SS weren't able to [for 'whatever' reason] They WERE Palin's detail after all, now weren't they?

The truth is there has been videotaped incitement of violent hatespeak at Palin rallies. We DO trust our eyes and ears - even if Hoseball tells us not to {sort of. He doesn't actually come out and say those words weren't uttered. He alludes to it, like a good little suck up}
Jan writes: Sunday, October, 19, 2008 10:23 PM
Joyce, Sarah & Joe vetted more than O
Joyce, boomerbabe and Carolyn I am with you--this is pure insanity. Take away the 'R' and replace it with a 'D,' and Palin would be queen D.

There are very few women in the U.S. who have risen through the ranks of community, city and state positions as Sarah Palin--it is commendable. I have worked in business, talk radio and community simultaneously, and I can tell you my community efforts were very involved and complex. It bothers me Palin's political efforts are being marginalized. She has management, leadership, and budgetary experience; she has more of these experiences than Obama—it is ridiculous to hear people diminish Palin while giving Obama a pass to the white house.

As a side note, have you noticed Joe the Plummer has been vetted by the MSM more than Obam?. We now know more about Joe and Sarah than we know about Obama thanks to our impartial news media.
Taft  writes: Sunday, October, 19, 2008 9:13 PM
Obama was honest
You could hear it on the tapes. And an ACORN leader got a death threat in the mail. It's all true. There were 3 people in colorado arrested who were going to kill him. One of McCains fiends whose house he often goes to, once even tried to murder someone, and blow up buildings, g.gordon liddy.
Steve in Charlotte writes: Sunday, October, 19, 2008 6:57 PM
"Thuggy Bear" lied? I'm shocked..SHOCKED
We know what Obama is. Only the terminally dumb don't and those that want YOUR money.

Can an Obama presidency happen?

Read "The Black Swan" by money manager Nassim Nicholas Taleb to realize it can. We Almost had one with Carter. Now we will have one.

Obama is a "Black Swan". Europeans thought all swans were right until around 1627 when black ones were discovered in Australia. Obama is the completely unexpected and unpredicted event that causes a catastrophy! IOW, he is an unthought of event that we never thought could happen just like 9/11 and the stock market crash of 1987!

Obama...the Black Swan!

Steve C Conlon
http://www.stevecconlon.com

Keith writes: Sunday, October, 19, 2008 5:58 PM
the rest of the story
McCain’s association with a domestic terrorist/convicted felon


photogbill

Not that the information contained in the below listed web sites will enlighten your partisan beliefs but if Obama’s judgment is ridiculed for his past associations then the same applies for McCain.

http://www.keloland.com/custompages/kelolandblogs/madvillet imes/index.cfm?c=2313

http://mediamatters.org/items/200810040004

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Gordon_Liddy

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/carl-bernstein/ayers-and-the- mccain-g-go_b_134256.html
photogbill writes: Sunday, October, 19, 2008 4:05 PM
Obama is...
A experienced liar, a false prophet, a con man, a fraud, a racist, and an narcissistic ego-maniac with delusions of grandeur. He has already designed his 'own' new presidential seal, replaced the flag painting on his private jet to be replaced with 'his' own logo, and presumptuously monogrammed the seats in the jet as if he were already the president!

He has no record of accomplishments or experience to speak of ...or qualify him for the office of the presidency ...other than writing two auto-biographies about his favorite subject!

I'm sure we will hear him talk about Colin Powell ...his new friend ...but continue to ignore and downplay his myriad of dubious friends and associates!
foxmustang writes: Sunday, October, 19, 2008 4:04 PM
Hypocrisy
The Democrats claim to be the party of inclusion and portray the Republicans as the party of intolerence. So far the Democrats have:
....thrown Hillary under the bus after they found a "more favorite" minority....
crucified Sarah Palin as "only" being the governor of a state(see Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and GWB), thus she isn't qualified to be VP.
made comments about McCain's age and accused him of being "erratic"
made innumerable negative comments about Palin's Down Syndrome baby and whether it belongs to Sarah or her daughter Bristol....
To recap....the Dems have actively trafficked in
.....gender bias..
.....age discrimination..
.....insensitivity towards an infant born with a disability..........
Sounds like the party of compassion to me!!!!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carolyn writes: Sunday, October, 19, 2008 3:20 PM
Sarah Palin
I think she is awesome and the best one of all of them in the race. I missed seeing her on Saturday Night Live last night and can't find any information on it. Did any of you see it. If so I would love to know how it went.
boomerbabe writes: Sunday, October, 19, 2008 2:52 PM
Joyce
I too, am mad as hell about the treatment of Palin. The first decent citizen politician to run for high office in decades and she is treated to the most vile and unfair hate speech that I have ever seen in politics. Sarah Palin is more accomplished than anyone in politics today. They hate her because she is one of us! I will walk on broken glass and crawl through a pit of snakes, ( the media comes to mind ) to vote for this woman. And I know many, many women who feel the same as we do.


Keith writes: Sunday, October, 19, 2008 2:40 PM
and here is the rest of the story
this is the portion of the story from Newsweek the Mr. Lewis did not add to his comment.

Is this fair and balanced reporting? I think not!

During a warm-up speech for Palin at an Oct. 15 rally in Scranton, Pa., a journalist with the city's Times-Tribune paper, David Singleton, reported hearing someone say "kill him"; he told NEWSWEEK that the remark was made casually, rather than angrily, by a male voice. Singleton stands by his account, but he acknowledges that he was unable to identify who made the remark. Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren says his agency examined videotape from that event and an earlier Palin event in Clearwater, Fla., at which a similar threat was supposedly made, and concluded that the voice could've been saying "tell him" or "tell them." But Washington Post reporter Dana Milbank, who was in Clearwater, said "the guy was a few feet in front of me … '[T]ell him' doesn't make any sense as a response to what Palin was saying." An Obama campaign spokesman told NEWSWEEK that "whether or not the [Secret Service] is investigating that particular comment is irrelevant. What is true is that the tone of the rhetoric at McCain-Palin campaign events has gotten out of hand."

Racisim is alive and well in the United States!

KB, Kingman Az.
Joyce writes: Sunday, October, 19, 2008 2:39 PM
I'm Mad as Hell!!!
What is goinging on in this country? This is a woman that grew up in an inhospitable environment for women, no money for college but found a way, married her HS sweetheart and worked hard (physically) to help build a successful business and raise five (count them five) beautiful children. Then when she became unhappy with the current government situation in her own environment, she took action, became mayor, went on to be on the Board for the Oil Industry in Alaska, quit because of CORRUPTION, took on an incumbent Republican Governor (also corrupt), stood up to the "good ole boy" political machine in Alaska and beat them, changed the way the Alaskan government was doing business, re-negotiated oil contracts with the "Big Oil Companies", cut spending, returned money to Alaskans, negotiated a very very important natural gas pipeline for the benefit of our ENTIRE COUNTRY, and after one and half years in office still had an 80% approval rating!!! The reason that I am "mad as hell" is that the MEDIA IN THE COUNTRY (news and entertainment) have savage this admirable woman. I am not talking about just the news media but all the unbelievable, vile disgusting things that I have heard and seen by even our young people in our universities, the liberal think tanks, the liberal pundits on even Fox News (which is the only station I ever watch anymore) but even on Fox these people are not held to account. What kind of country have we become when a person that should be respected and admired for her life can be so vilified but there is NO NO outrage from the very organizations that SHOULD be objective. These are the organizations that shape opinion in this country and they have FAILED MISERABLY. NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC AND THE WORST OFFENDER IS NPR. NPR SHOULD BE THE STANDARD..
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