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Wednesday, May 14, 2008
40%?
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 12:51 AM
Hillary won by 40%?

Put West Virginia in the McCain column.  Along with Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Barack Obama is far outside the mainstream, and Democrats know it.  

Yes, GOP candidates are facing tough weather, as the special elections show.

But not against hard left candidates, and Senator Obama is hard left.

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SEEHAWK writes: Thursday, May, 15, 2008 1:31 AM
LL
"Uncle Sam's Plantation" by Star Parker tells who the real racists in this nation are. And it ain't the repubs.
arch writes: Thursday, May, 15, 2008 12:07 AM
S/A86
S/A86 writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 10:09 PM
babakazama is the 'racially derog'
term I most prefer for laborious lawyer's chocolate hero, actually.

But, as a person who is much, much blacker than babakazama, I feel no need to toe belaboring barrister's idiotic line.

Arch says:
Just another example of LL's character. Race is not the issue, yet leave it to a libtard to fumble the baiting of the hook. If he were a fish, he would have not gotten caught with his liberal elite pants down! How do people get hoodwinked into thinking that libtards can help them when they continuously enact policies that take away the opportunities that are afforded to every citizen of the nation? Are we doomed back into tyranny and slavery? God I hope not!
NeoConScum writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 11:00 PM
A86...You Baaad...You Dooowwwnnnn...
Irritating the stuff right outta the Lib-PC Thought Police Contingent, I see.

Enjoying it immensely. Luv the smell of teargas in the morning...Smellin' an awful lot...like..Denver!
S/A86 writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 10:09 PM
babakazama is the 'racially derog'
term I most prefer for laborious lawyer's chocolate hero, actually.

But, as a person who is much, much blacker than babakazama, I feel no need to toe belaboring barrister's idiotic line.
laborlawyer writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 6:27 PM
cmoore
Yes, it will be interesting. I'm predicting a close election for President and a Democratic wipeout of the Republicans in the House and Senate.

btw "chocolate" was my reference to poster S/A 86, who frequently uses that and other racially derogatory terms to refer to Obama. Unless your goal is to cement the Klan vote and alienate Black voters for another generation, with friends like this you don't need enemies.
cmoore writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 5:46 PM
laborlawyer: .......
While Its true that Senator Obama sited the Travis Childers win in Missi as proof that his chances to take that state in Nov. are good, I guess we’ll have to wait and see. However as you already eluded to, Childers is not Obama.

I have to confess Im not as familiar with the details of that particular race so I'd only be guessing. However, the GOP has taken some hits that most feel point directly to having wandered to far from its principles. Voters will from time to time cast protest votes. Its not wise, but it happens. Im sorry Im just not familiar with the Mississippi political scene.
I will say, "Sometimes" change isn’t good, sometimes its only change.

Historically when Republican candidates stray to far left, they don't win. Then again, it may be that the other choice, (Senator Obama), is to far left.
My guess would be that Senator McCain stands a much better chance contrasted against a far left opponent like Senator Obama than he would against a more moderate democrat.

By the way I like chocolate and I have to say that Senators Obama’s race in the beginning was only incidental, all the conservative talk shows including Hewitt's never mentioned that as part of their objection to him. It was always as you say - “ Obama may prove to be too far left” -that they had problems with. My recollection was that race was being tossed around in the beginning amongst the democrats, lets face it there is plenty of shame to go around.

Either way, its going to be a very interesting year my labolawyer friend. Dont you think?
CincyGuy writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 4:15 PM
S/A86' s Own Personal Southern Strategy
You should crawl back in your hole and pull the trap door down. What do you have against black folks? I mean it seriously. You claim you want your candidate to win and yet the likes of you showing your true colors only spells disaster for the Repubs. Seriously, what's your problem, in general, with black people? Would love to hear your reasoning (?)
laborlawyer writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 2:00 PM
question for cmoore
Since you have asked for Dems to be introspective, what lessons do you draw from the Childers win in Mississippi? Yes, he ran as a conservative Democrat who favors a balanced budget. But as I pointed out, he also favors bringing the troops home from Iraq, supports expansion of S-Chip, opposes one-sided trade deals, and opposes privatization of social security.

My take is that there is an emerging center-left majority in the country. Obama may prove to be too far left, but that doesn't mean a McCain vote is a pro-conservative vote. In fact, it may be McCain's positioning as a center-right candidate on such issues as global warming and immigration- the positions conservatives hate- that will make him viable.

I welcome a reasoned response. If you're just going to call be a "libtard" and put down my "chocolate" candidate, you needn't bother.
laborlawyer writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 1:40 PM
CMoore
It depends on how the election is conducted. If we get a good discussion of the issues and lose, there will be a great need for introspection. If it is all personality-driven and the Repubs succeed in convincing voters that Obama is something he is not, then it will simply be that we were out-slimed.
RASHUM writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 11:57 AM
cmoore
Good points!

Reason why the Dems lost 2000, 2002 and 2004, they never really looked at themselves in the mirror and asked why they lost. They blame the SCOTUS, voter fraud/intimidation (when in fact most fraud is committed in Democratic precincts), "ignorant" as they like to call them religious voters, etc. What I find ironic is they are not winning these days on their ideas, more on the Republicans screwing up.
cmoore writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 11:41 AM
Question for my pals on the left
I already know as a republican the way I deal with a loss in an election is to ask what we did wrong, to be more introspective.

My question for my Democratic friends is: If Obama were to loose in Nov. what question will you ask?

Will you to cry the election was stolen from you?
Will the race card be hauled out?

or

Will it be about your candidate and what he stood for, or how his campaign was run or thoughts on the direction of your own party?

Perhaps and against all odds, if Senator Obama were to loose, you can re-join us here for your thoughtful observations. Reason is always welcome.

As for me, If Obama wins, I'll be back here and you can bet I wont be holding anyone but my own party responsible.
Virginia Patriot writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 11:25 AM
Deja vu deja vu
The Democrats never learn?

The GOP decided to run their own liberal this time.

Stupid Party indeed.
Bill Cross writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 11:09 AM
silver lining
the bad news is that mcain (i'll hold my breath for 10 seconds and vote for him) will win in 08.

the good news is that the republican party (mostly not true conservatives) will take it on the chin. this will demand change in the party, and the milque toast, penny loafer types will be exiled to k street where they'll continue to do harm, although behind the curtain, shielded from conservative view.

yet who could doubt such an eventuality with leaders such as ken mehlman, mel martinez et al.

these fellas will take you down every time, and yet it was obvious for all conservatives to see what was happening.

the republican party cannot out-democrat the democrats, which was the mehlman/martinez strategy.

conservatives need leaders like gingrich, atwater and delay. these fellas knew how to differentiate conservatives from marxists.

once the dust settles positive change will occur, no question about it.

that said, 2009 and 2010 could be tough years for the good guys.
scott writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 11:06 AM
6 months is a long time

for things to change either way, but the early
warning signs look really, really bad for Repub
seats in Congress. Maybe worse than 2006. I'm
guessing Repubs on this blog will go out and
vote with glee but even with Cheney flying into
Missisipi to inspire the locals, Repub turnout looks
terrible and is a bad sign as the Dems are turning
out in record numbers. If they are not panicing
in Repub hq, they should be, or resigning en masse.


Joe writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 10:55 AM
Lomborg Spot On
McCain needs more advice from Michael Crichton and Bjorn Lomborg and less advice from Joe Lieberman and Al Gore on this issue: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MWE1NmYxZTFmMDQxZjE1M jk5MDgxYTZiYTZmYjg1YTY=

As for Rush and others, they are the other end of the spectrum. Denying global warming plays right into the hands of the Goracle and the other Chicken Littles. Yes there is global warming. Yes it will have impacts. But those impacts (while in some ways significant) are going to be far less than people are saying and the better approach is not to try to curb carbon as to more to new energy sources that will replace carbon.
Col Bat Guano writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 10:54 AM
Childers won because
The local GOP ran a stupid campaign sad to say. It sounds like Childers ran a campaign based on local issues that had meaning to the larger rural constituency whereas the GOPer ran trying to tie Childers to Nancy Pelosi, Obama, et.al.

"Huh!?!?! What the hell office do you think you're running for you moron???" would have been my reaction, too. Reminds me of the last Senate race heirs ins ze Peeples Republik von Cullyforjna where an ameoba could unseat Barbara Box-o-brix. Instead we got some knucklehead that held a press conference to talk about the horrible job the current AG was doing. True enough, but "Huh???""

This was a "SPECIAL" Election you dolts, not the general where national issues takes on more relevance. The only real leadership with full brain function in the GOP right now seems to be Mitch McConnell. Eye-yi-yi. Almost makes one want to register Losertarian - almost.
Chi-town Rebel writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 10:48 AM
Dejavu
Democrats never learn. They keep putting up liberal candidates of president. It never works.
Now they seem to have come to the conclusion Gore and Kerry were not liberal enough. So now they have a black panther, Casto loving, McGovern, Hammas, radical wantabe. Yeh that's the ticket. How much more ridiculous can this get. Anyone who thinks this guy actually has a chance needs to get back on the meds.
RASHUM writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 10:40 AM
I am starting to get worried
I am product of the Reagan Revolution! I am very proud conservative Republican who has never voted for a Democrat in my entire life. I am starting to get VERY worried about this election. With the exception of Bobby Jindal we have not had one election to celebrate in a very long time. I like and support John McCain, but I am starting to worry about his chances as we continue to lose election we should be winning easily.

What I fear most is the Democrats holding 60 senate seats. If they hold the Presidency, the House and a 60 seat majority in the senate, we can count on taxes going much higher, slashed military spending, a full withdraw from Iraq and the one thing that REALLY scares me socialized medicine.

I am sure that if Obama wins the conservative Republicans will have a HUGE 2010 win, but if they can ram socialized medicine down our throats in two years we are REALLY F--KED!
NeoConScum writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 10:25 AM
RustyG...Good Points, Lad...
I'm planning to vote for Johnny Little, too. But, God help him if he goes stark raving mad and picks--as US News claimed yesterday--the grifting populist, Huckabee, as Veep.

McCain is right and aggressive on THE OVERWHELMINGLY LARGE Issue for me: The War with Radical Islam and the Mid-East Questions. Also, the Supreme Court picks.

But, God help Juanito IF he picks Huckster.
NeoConScum writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 10:17 AM
"Hard Left" In American Terms..
Not European measurements. But, he's WAY Left by contemorary mainstream American standards. Funny how resiliant the Lie of Socialism remains. Less than 2-decades after Communism's shipwreck, another set of of scrubbed up bozos are selling the swill of the Nanny State. 3-years after French Socialism showed it's criminal vapidity by watching 15,000 old folks die in their heatwave, uncared for by their socialist state. Yet, the Nanny Staters endure. Same myths of 60's Great Society Bullsh!t, perpetuated with a shiney new B.Hussein O'Bammy face applied to the same stuff-different decade, take-care-of-me-I'm-entitled-ccrapola!

What Lib-Left Democrats are after: A De-Bollocked America. They want us WEAK and Dependent. Strong, they see as BAD. They won't stop until they've succeeded in making this Giant of Liberty & Independence a Flabby, PC Crazed, Dependent, Girly Man, Nannoid, Power-Deprived Bunch of Fluff.

And, China as a Superpower and NO LIMITS, except for America.
buddhabman writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 10:10 AM
McCains Economic Policy will doom him
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121073227421390697.html?mod =googlenews_wsj

McCain will do well in WV, and might make things tight in Ohio and PA, but he won't win them, Hillary is going to be stationed right there, that's going to be her mission to deleiver if she wants a Democratic future. She will deliver Ohio and Pennsylvania for Obama.

Misssissippi - Travis Childers Democratic win is the tip of the iceberg.

Liberal is a good thing. It's gonna be good to be Liberal in November. :-)

Obama 08
RustyG writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 9:59 AM
Toss Up
It cracks me up when I read that you libs are seemingly surprised that a GOP commited blogger writes something pro-GOP on his OWN blog. Be happy you are treated fairly civily, something that never happens when affiliations are reversed and you know it.
Hugh is correct although if McCain wins it will be a squeeker. He is terribly hard for Conservatives to support. The war and judges. Thats all there is to it. Can McCain be trusted on judges? I know Barry O. can't.
SAM writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 9:41 AM
Dealing with Buyer's Remorse
Obama supporters can dump on me all you want for this comment, but Democrats seem to be ignoring a very important point. The Democrats are stuck with a candidate who got too far ahead before anyone checked under the hood.

Does anyone really believe Obama would have done nearly so well in the primaries before March if Obama's views as reflected in the San Francisco remarks, his membership in Wright's church (and the new pastor ain't much different), his children as a "punishment" remark, his position on partial-birth abortion? I seriously doubt we'd even be talking about him. And those are just the cultural issues.

He's weak on foreign policy and military affairs. He has no background in economic matters--he's not on the Senate Finance Committee (I just checked), he was clueless on tax policy in the ABC News debate, and his tax returns demonstrate the financial acumen of a teenager.

What's Obama's appeal? Hope, change, unity? Show me instances of reaching across the aisle? He opposed Roberts and Alito for the Supreme Court. Americans need to learn more about his 1983-1988 and 1991-1995 community activist days. What did he actually accomplish? Illinois is historically a very corrupt political environment. Something smells.
S/A86 writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 9:29 AM
All the children sing:
"We don't need your chocolate HEEEEEEro!"

"We don't need to know the way home!"

All that is missing is Tina Turner in her wire mesh dress. Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk


http://www.recreate68.org
Hawkeye writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 9:23 AM
Childers To Voters, Please Ignore Obama
What a contradiction the dems have between there presidential and congressional campaigns. For president, your running a candidate who is so far left he makes Ted Kennedy look moderate. Obama can't/won't carry the blue-collar vote in the midwest, south or northwest. At the congressional level, the dems are running social & fiscal conservatives who openly disagree with Pelosi on taxes, abortion and education. It will be interesting after a summer and fall of education whether these candidates who must run again in five months can claim "independence" from the speaker from San Francisco and Barrack Obama.
Ex-tex writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 9:10 AM
Blue Dog vs. RINO- gimme me the "D"
Correct me if I’m wrong-

But aren’t these Dems that are winnin’ mostly blue-dog dems??? i.e. aren’t they all right leaning conservative Democrats??

Hell if the Right is movin’ left with McCain and the other RINOs- And the Left is movin’ right then SHOOT call me a jackass! I’ll vote Blue Dog over RINO any day!
Gord Tulk writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 8:58 AM
David frum quotes Jake Tapper
on BO's crappy management intellect here: http://frum.nationalreview.com/

I don't see McCain ever doing this stuff. I think we all want a pres who adheres to "the buck stops here" motto. BO is so ingrained in the victimology that he won't. Jimmy Carter will no longer be the worst president since 1900 if BO wins.
RomanLion writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 8:37 AM
No winners, really...
I don't see this as boding well, actually. The fact the GOP keeps losing elections its hould be winning, such as MS-1 or IL-14, tells me that we are probably going to lose 30 seats in the House and maybe even get to a 60 vote margin in the Senate for the Democrats.

What I am getting is that there is no real enthusiasm for McCain, other than he's "not Obama". So if he wins, the media will chalk it up to Racism, and then he'll proceed to 'cross the ailse and make deals with Reid and Pelosi.

Of course, there is always the risk that disaffected conservatives will flock to Bob Barr, and that will be the end of McCain. Obama can win with 45% of the vote.
Patriotic Liberal writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 8:37 AM
WV has to be the most..
..non-representative state in the union. I mean, you would be hard pressed to find a state with demographics that are more misaligned with those of the broader country. I don't know that for fact, but the Appalachian range runs through the entire state. That does not sound esp. typical to me. Add to that HRC was campaigned wall-to-wall while Barack barely stuck his nose there. It is a non-event.

What IS meaningful is that special race for the House seat in MS. The corporate media hardly mentioned it in its breathless attempts to breathe a story back into the Dem Presidential race--but Bush got 62% of the vote in that district. The Reep ran with all the tricks--Barack scares and other such flimflam--but Childers won by 8%. Eight percent, for crying out loud. Not even close.

Why not run with Barack? The Republicans and contemporary conservatism is so tarnished, we can win with a committed and principled Democrat. We don't need to "find the candidate who can win." We can seize the moment. Look at the Reeps--a swing and a miss in Hastert's district in IL, a swing and a miss with Jenkins in LA, and last night, a swing and a miss in MS. Each district more embarrassing than the last. They are outta here!!
jtb-in-texas writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 8:33 AM
Both Democrats AND Republicans are...
...off-balance this year. And the putative Presidential Candidates are not those particularly loved by the traditional party faithful.

Both sides appear to be throwing in the towel at the same time. It'll be a photo finish as to which towel hits the mat first...
navytech writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 8:10 AM
Obama is not a national candidate
A 40 point loss in WV doesn't matter, and FL etc just aren't to be counted at all. He is by no means a national candidate. A singularly unimpressive showing in that having just got spanked by Hillary (sorry) the charismatic dilettante ran away. Bravely he ran away. No doubt wearing his new flag pin.


We WIN in Iraq.
We Don't negotiate with terrorists.
Obama can go back to wherever he came from and become a Muslim (not that there's anything wrong with that) again.
Joe writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 8:02 AM
Here's the bad news for the GOP
The Dems winning that Mississippi congressional race. Again, that should be a warning sign to all conservatives.
Joe writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 7:55 AM
Last night was some good news for McCain
But he better focus his campaign if he plans on winning. If he keeps trying to outbama Obama, he will lose. If he runs as a moderate conservative (which he is) and does not go off the rails completely on cap and trade and immigration reform, he will win.
wagmanfigit writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 6:39 AM
Hugh must be saying something right
To get that much hate from the left thrown at him. You know what they say the truth hurts. If you don't trust Hugh just go to Rasmussenreports.com they have more polling data from the from ther resent polls page that would support his blog.
Blu writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 5:22 AM
labor lawyer
You are so full of sh*t. If Obama is your nominee, McCain will win 40+ states. Guaranteed. When the National Journal ranks you as the most liberal member of the Senate, your chances of becoming President are about 0. And that's what his are - 0. It does not help that he surrounds himself with people who hate this country - including his own spouse. I love the arrogance of the Left though. It will make victory all the sweeter come November. Well, partial victory: Dems will keep the legislative majority.

Our candidate isn't great, but yours is a train wreck, who can't think if the teleprompter isn't telling him what to say. McCain is going to bury him in the debates, and you guys are going to be sitting there wondering what happened to your "brilliant" candidate. The guy is an empty suit, who manages to say nothing every time he opens his mouth. Hillary is twice the candidate; but, as usual, you guys will select as your nominee the person destined to lose.

Thanks Dems....
laborlawyer writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 3:55 AM
Travis Childers
Write the name down. He's a Democrat who just won a ridiculously Republican House seat in Mississippi. He ran on a platform including support for public education, expanding the availability of affordable health care including S-CHIP, oppsition to privatizing Social Security, opposing trade deals that cost Americn jobs, and bringing the troops home from Iraq.

You guys have no concept of how much trouble you are in this November.
laborlawyer writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 3:38 AM
Another Hewitt prediction:)
May I mark this down right next to all the "Romney Rising" posts?
Mac 777 writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 2:53 AM
BIG BROTHER OBAMA
is about to effect 2 disastrous consequences on this United States:a) REALIGNMENT ELECTION (following a catastrophic...perhaps violent nominating convention in Denver) that will virtually extinguish the Democratic Party as entity from America's political landscape(there have been 3 RE's in our nation's brief history thus far);b)a(possibly violent)disaffection of the(so-called) Black community that will set Civil Rights efforts in the USA back at least a decade, possibly 20 years......
A not so disastrous...but nonetheless probable...consequence will be effective, self-
implosion of MSM as the Logos/subtending architecture of so-called 4th Estate. This self-
congratulatory,narcissistic ens is about to "fall on its sword". But there will be nothing of the noble Roman aristocracy in MSM(led by NYT;its baby Huey clone Boston Globe;and their West Coast Homie,LAT).Go and good riddance(cf~Churchill's farewell to the feckless Chamberlain) to this claque of(pseudo)intellectual inbreds who affect
(like Hollow Men Orwellians,they are)to crush democratic spirit with their CAPTIVE MIND(Czeslaw Milosz)PC/PM propaganda wind machine.
Arthur McVarish, Houston
clubJWP writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 2:17 AM
first lady pres of america
thats a real great news. i wanted to see what a female would do for america, males have brought america till here, it will be a refreshing to see a lady first citizen (poor billy be the first man)

great

JWP
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Royinoslo writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 2:14 AM
Propagandist, not columnist
The vast majority of objective observers and Democrats-- on both sides-- have by and large agreed that Obama and Clinton are very close in their politics-- the differences are in style and personality.

For Hugh to keep harping away at Barry being "hard-left" and outside the mainstream-- is just plain goofy, not to mention destructive and disrespectful. It's a clear dodge to give cover to the bigoted voter who wants a reason to vote white without revealing his bigotry.

Hillary has benefited in several primaries from various factors: close association with Dem governors thereby tapping into machines, her own name recognition and her pioneering efforts on behalf of women.

There is no real political divide between the two except that which propagandists like Hugh can invent in order to siphon off votes to McCain in November.
Spicy Joker writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 1:43 AM
McCain is too weak
The GOP is heading for a train wreck in November. At least McCain's influence in the GOP - to the extent he ever had any - will finally wane.
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