Saturday, April 12, 2008
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Obama Said What? UPDATE: Why Are Steeler Fans So Bitter?
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Posted by:
Hugh Hewitt at
12:07 AM
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Incredible. I knew his politics were radical from his memoir. But I had no idea that his contempt for middle America was so complete.
Do the Democrats dare nominate someone so completely clueless about the heartland?
UPDATE: Obama doesn't apologize, he expands on his "thinking."
Patrick Hynes has the details.
Tomorrow's Sunday shows will probe the extent of the damage, but the significance of Obama's candid contempt for small-town voters won't even be fully absorbed by the public until talk radio plays the tape wall-to-wall for a week. There's a great deal more than arrogance in the "bitter" remark. There is a worldview that will define Obama for many who gave him a look. Many will see the combination of the remarks and the setting --a fundraiser in San Francisco-- as a sure sign that Obama is not to be trusted. Talking trash about middle class voters in industrial states while the canapes are served by the bay doesn't work outside of the huge cities where poking fun at the rural and suburban rabble is an honored tradition.
UPDATE: The Washington Post put the biggest political story in weeks on page 4.
This may be what makes Pennsylvanians so bitter: Even when they are insulted, the elites don't think it is newsworthy.
They could also be bitter about the Eagles and the Steelers.
You tell me, why at Keystone staters so bitter? hugh@hughhewitt.com.
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Neo, Seehawk,
Sorry, boys, not a woman near either one of you |
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See Blovesto Man declared someplace that he'd not react to my provocations...Which, was good. But, because he is who HE IS, I bet a hunnerd buks for every time he slips...Then, tee-hee, I set the baits...Missus Neo is swimming in winnings(Yes, she confiscates them as soon as I finish counting!)and a happy Minx. |
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"I'm the man in this relationship, boy"
Another quote of the year from blovie boy!!!
So shy do you get the $100? Yicks...... |
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Damn, you had to go and mention Hamburger Hamlet!
S.Lake Avenue in Pasadena...Sherman Oaks...DuPars in Studio City...Musso's...Smokehouse across from Warner Bros..."Homesick" for some of my SoCal dives. Been nearly a year. Enough with the *VIGFM, God, please send me a picture!
*Vast Inexpressable GOOD For Mankind |
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Goodness, The Bloviator really does fit the font, doesn't he?
I'm off to Zurich for another stretch. Good to have checked in for a few days and caught up on my thread reading, warm weather and the Hamburger Hamlet! Be back in the U.S. soon. |
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ANOTHER $100 Bucks! Missus Neo wants me to write Blovie a Thank You note for all the winnings of late. If more people were this obsessively predictable, I'd rule the woild!
Cha-Ching! Oh, yeaaaaah, Bay-Beeeee! |
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He said our bitterness causes us to cling to our guns and religion; on our apathy towards those not like us...then the next day he tried to say essentially that those are not really bad things.
"I am religious too!" was the essential argument he made in defense of his earlier statement. This guy is indeed an elitist. |
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Only because it is so instructional, I'm sure you have not missed the "bitterness", just above, spewing from the "Pathetic Liberal". Noteworthy is that he resides not in some small town in Pennsylvania. He wallows in the southern California sprawl.Jobs aplenty.
Nor does he "cling" to guns. He owns nary a one. His bitterness typifies Obama's failure in identifying how insidious this pathos is in our great country.
Yes, PL's bitterness proves it is not even an economic-caused phenomena. Rather, it is one so intertwined with the need to be heard, seen, recognized. And his P.O.V. reigns supreme.
Narcissistic is what it is, plain and simple.
Btw, thanks for the memory you possess. Although I did not devise, nor originate the term, "her thighness", it seemed fitting upon hearing it; thieved it from another poster----indeed, it was me who got "caught" with it when Laborious Lawyer took rank exception.
And, your recollections, summary is spot-on as to LL's fickle-finger pointing at McCain.
OHM, you are appreciated. |
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Clarity,
Yes, I do recall that you were the one who cleverly came up with the amusing "Her Thighness" monniker for Queen Hillary of the House of Clinton.
I thought it was funny, you thought it was funny, everyone thought it was funny...except for our hyper-serious pal, the Laborlawyer, who made the asinine claim that "it" caused him so much trauma that it elicited him to change his mind about possibly voting for McCain, and thus put him squarely on the side of the Democrats this November.
What was hilarious is how he wants us to believe that a fierce partisan Democrat such as him was ever going to vote for McCain in the first place.
I bet he's never voted for a GOP candidate for President in his life.
Nonetheless, check out this Orwellian characterization from our super-serious pal.
He's asserting that Barry H. Obama is nothing more than an anti-Communist, low taxes JFK Democrat !
Laborlawyer wrote;
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"He only seems like a radical leftist because our national discourse has moved so far rightward. Really, he's basically a FDR/Truman/Kennedy-type;"
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Clarity, I hope you never have an accident where you lose the ability to use the keyboard.
Your ability to engage the lefties is priceless.
In fact, you're so good, that they no longer want to play.
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..you don't have my number, you don't know where I'm coming from. You're just a pathetic lame-brain who wants to win no matter how it turns out. So you can put that self-satisfied jocularity where the sun doesn't shine. I'm the man in this relationship, boy. Why, you can only speak of me in the third person. Bow before your king, cootscum. Ya got nuthin.. |
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Top of the day to you, sir.
Hope the Missus is well.
It has been illuminating, all of this tongue-posturing by the Left in their reinterpretations over Obama's laid-bare, truely felt, touchy-feely sentiments towards small-town America.
The hits just keep on coming.
Oh yeah, Neo, keep the mantra alive, if you will:
His is about politics that is transformative.
It's about change.
It's about hope.
It's FRESH.
Oh Yeah!
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Utterly predictable.
Cha-CHING! Anoooootherrr $100 won for mrs.Neo's coffers. Clarity, this boy's just too easy. |
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Never did take sociology. And my eighth grade teachers hated me. Thanks for asking, though. My guess is that I see you more clearly than you see me.. |
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ior huff, you're taking a long, long goodbye! ;-)
C'mon, Kid, just like your detached, brief, never needy bud, The Bloviator, you can't quite..leave. He finds us foolish Reep Cons to be tedious and small. Mean spirited. false. Blather, blab, blah-blah. Rarely in under 350 words, most of them in Big Impressive 8th Grade Hall Monitor syllables. Just like impressed his Sociology teacher. Not unlike his boy Bazama's view of rural Americans.
Clarity..You, like A86, are sooooooooo insensitive. I shant speak to either of you louts again. Never. Ever.
Paddy...I know you pretty well and hadn't realized that you were afraid of homosexuals. LL said so below. Why are you afraid of Homosexuals, Paddy? Ish-Shoes? Phobia=Fear.
Oh, one last inaccuracy, LL. "Hatred" of labor organizing??? Where do you get all the Victimhood, my friend? For far, far too many Lib-Lefties, to disagree or have a problem with=HATRED. That is, simply put, nonsense. And a cheap way to close reasoned disagreement.
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I come back because I will not be shunned by the likes of a second-rater like you. Or rather, the mere fact that you and your rabble shun me shall not drive me away. Trash like you cannot be allowed to wallow in the conceit that you may ward off "the truth that hurts" simply by acting like a teenager.
As for those leftie sites, I don't post there. Unlike you, I don't need an echo chamber. And since I have a life, I don't have time to involve myself with more than one site. In fact, if you hadn't shunned me, I would be taking a sabbatical now--as I'm really pressed for time these days. My only hope is that some conservative--maybe not in your pathetic little claque--will see the arguments and recognize that there are ways to think about morality, politics, and culture beyond the lame little dichotomies used by Boomer conservatives. |
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your friend, the, "Pathetic One" is back to contribute his version of intellectual discourse. Fascinating.
Of this site he says:
"The guys in here are generally low character, often dishonorable, and fundamentally uninteresting."
Interestingly enough, those on this site are so uninteresting, we keep him coming back for more. And more. And more. I suppose the characters on DailyKos, MediaMatters, HuffPost, etc. enjoy his company immensely.
By the way, I find it interesting that he can minimize what Barack said with his, Daffy-nous. So, when a couple of posters write out a comment of similar nature, it is met with a full assault. When Barack says what he does, it is humorously laughed off.
Labor Lawyer, he's from your camp, not ours.
Truly transformative. |
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correction.
It was the AAAN that Obama and Ayers provided grants to. Not the NAAI.
http://www.democrats.org/page/community/post/PAM/CcZP |
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Heyyyyyy. Barack said "typical white person." That is dethpickable. DETHPICKABLE I tell you!! |
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..it really is the best way. They have not shunned you the way they decided to shun me, but it is much better just throwing down an argument and moving on. These guys have no faith in rationality. They lack the humility to see that truth may not be in their possession. And their frightened psyches are insulated by fragile strata of bluster and jocularity. You cannot dialog with such phonies. They belong in a more barbaric system, one that is authoritarian and tributary. Where the American experiment is concerned, they are free-riders (as we say in the market).
The guys in here are generally low character, often dishonorable, and fundamentally uninteresting. Not all, of course, but all too many. The premise of democracy is that men of good will can disagree, even about First Things, without impugning the other. What I have found in my two years around here is that--with paltry few exceptions--it is ALL about power with today's conservatives. Language is not for discovering truth; it is just another tool--like violence, like ridicule, like pathos--to empower themselves and weaken their opponents. It is really a base level at which to operate, and for those of us who are interested in the dignity and nobility of philosophic friendship, their strutting and preening and taunting and castigating and mocking and distorting is deeply, deeply disheartening. It is almost like there is 25-30% of the country who are lost--just finally and irreversibly gone..
Ah well. Best regards and I'll be watching for your posts. |
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Friend.......that was me who Labor Lawyer took exception to in referencing, her Thighness.
Remember it well.
So, if there is to be castigating of certian individuals, I am here to receive the full-frontal.
Oh, and I would pay the same honor to the woman today, as I did then.
>:D
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Since you are committed to reinterpretation of Barack's own words,
How 'bout a take on his,
1.) "A Typical White Person" comment?
Let's hear you reinterpretation of that version of racism.
Insightful enough as to his true character?
Of course not. Not for the tongue-twisting necessary to clean up his deliveries.
2.) "Woods Fund" payout of $75,000.00 to Khalid, the individual who for many years worked for the, NAAI, the "official press agency" for the PLO.
In case you forgot, that was the organization belonging to terrorist, Yasser Arafat. The decision to give this money to Khalid was entirely on the judgement of Barack Hussein Obama and his cohort, Bill Ayers (himself an admitted terrorist--he admitted to NYT in 2001 that he personally bombed the Pentagon). Nice friends for a future, would-be president.
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I do expect you to treat President Obama with the same sneering contempt you exhibit here. After all, the Kos kids did it to GWB and everyone knows- particularly an Orwell expert such as yourself- two wrongs make a right.
Everyone here seems to think you're a pampheleteer not a racist. Well, go pamphlet at some other door. Cuz in your case, nothing you could ever say would bother me. You're way too small for me to care. |
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Clarity,
When you talk to me, talk to ME. I made no excuses for Wright. Nor for Ali Baghdadi. Disgraceful stuff. I condemned it then and now.
If I thought Obama took these views, I wouldn't support him. But there is nothing in his own record that hints of such agreement, and much of his own support for Jews and Israel (I posted a lot of it right here).
On this one, though, you are twisting it. Maybe it simply suits what you already think of the man. Which is fine with me. Just not correct. |
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Saw your exchange with Paddy. I see you got the same response I got from S/A86 concerning his epithets. I'm not sure why Paddy's homophobia is worse than 86's racism, though. As you said to Paddy, can't you (meaning 86 and Amerigenerous) disagree with Obama without the racial namecalling?
As for Obama, I'm happy to defend his positions, anytime anywhere. I do agree with them. He represents our first opportunity to elect a true liberal in a generation. He only seems like a radical leftist because our national discourse has moved so far rightward. Really, he's basically a FDR/Truman/Kennedy-type; after all, Truman was the first President to call for national health care, and Medicare was Kennedy's great achievement.
Am I a "fierce Democrat"?. Well, I voted for Riordan for LA Mayor and Schwartzenneger for Governor. The problem with most Republicans these days which keeps me from supporting them is their hatred of the right of workers to join, form and organize unions as well as their let-them-eat-cake attitude towards all the workers losing middle-class jobs due to outsourcing, and their anti-science attitude on the environment.
In another time, I might actually support a guy like McCain. But, you're right, not this year. The country badly needs the course correction Obama offers.
Again, I can debate ideas all day long. But when you start into the "that's his m.o." crap, forget it, pal. |
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But then, I am just a "TYPICAL WHITE PERSON". Just ask Obama.
He'll be happy to tell you.
'Cuz you're one of his pals. |
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No sir, you are once again, wrong.
I twisted NOTHING of that which he spoke.
Indeed, you are rearranging what he said. You are "spinning" his actual words to read what you want them to read. I heard the tape--as bad a quality as it is. I read the transcript.
Funny, you Libs.
Videotapes emerge of this candidate's pastor. He says many things which are obviously HATEFUL. What is your response? What is the response from the Left?
"Hey, it was a snippet. You guys took it out of context".
Bulls*t. It was exactly what it was. HATE. RACE-HUSTLING.
The lending of space in the church newletter to TERRORISTS and their messages? Nothing from you guys. Nothing.
Everything this guy has said has been reinterpreted by the Libs/Lefties/Progressives/Victicrts.
Weak.
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treatment towards Obama IF he became President. No Prez, in my lifetime(and I was born during Roosevelt's last term..)has been subjected to the vile hatred and lies that President Bush has received. None. However, to his undying credit and due to his balance & humility, he's resisted answering or even showing more than a very slight-random irritation. Rare and hugely classy.
IF Barack became Chief Exec., the country would most likely be treated to over-compensating levels of niceness from Repubs. He would be, after all, a true First. And, after the past 30-years of snowballingly worse PC-Crap, everyone's been trained to be MORE fair, rather than LESS, in cases like this.
The venom, vitriol, pure hatred and utter lies tossed at our Stand-Up Wartime Leader--Liberator of Nations and Killer of Dark Age Death Cultists--is unprecedented in our Modern Era. |
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I subscribe to Cabalista's points to you and agree that A86 is a very entertaining pamphleteer and absolutely no racist--at least from anything said at HH! I, too, am usually far more of a pamphleteer than a remotely seriously-serious poster on these particular threads. I've come to actually get something of a kick outta Brobette, even, I'm mortified to admit, agree with the Boy from time-to-time. Briggsy is absolutely clueless and never, that I'm aware, nasty or small. I like the man. I just--with only rare exceptions--don't take this stuff terribly seriously and myself even less. It's comic book commenting and is diverting and entertaining. The late, unlamented Peaky was a sick fool and pretty poisonous and, I assume, the Site Admin finally had enough of his arsenic. Good riddance to bad garbage.
You're entirely wrong, in my long observations here, that Blovie Boy is balanced and detached. He's entirely opposite and has a craving that can never be filled. Thus, mostly me & mine don't feed it.
Stick around, LL. That's my bitter white boy read on the sitcha'ashun. |
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""Constitution and the rule of law, something this Administration and its' enablers such as John Yoo have completely and disgracefully ignored. But it scares me to think how the denizens of HH/Townhall will treat a President Obama.""
How will the 'denizens' of Townhall treat babakazama? Why with equality, naturally.
We will treat babakazama every bit as well as GWB has been treated over at MuffPo and KKKOS, of course.
We will show babakazama, should we be required (Saints preserve us), all of the respect and courtesy your side showed Presidents Bush and Reagan. We will give babakazama all the egalitarianism he can handle.
dimocrats set the tone and protocol, with their peurile, idiotic tounts directed at Dan Quayle, GHWB, Dick Cheney.
It will be a sincere pleasure to treat babakazama 'equally.'
It is equality you seek, LL? And not the extra equality Orwell wrote of in 'Animal Farm?' |
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Cabal Member,
I remember a couple months ago when the Laborlawyer got upset about a commenter playfully referring to Hillary Clinton as "Her Thighness."
The Laborlawyer had responded by claiming he was seriously contemplating voting for McCain in November, however, the fact that a Townhall commenter referred to Clinton as "Her Thighness" was 'causing him' to definitely vote Democratic in November.
Laborlawyer is a man in his 50s who has been a fierce partisan Democrat for decades, yet he expected us to believe that the Townhall commenter calling HRC "Her Thighness" was what was pushing him over the edge to support the Democrat this November.
That's hilarious. |
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Clarity, Cabal Member;
This is just the Laborlawyer's m.o.
He's not confident about his ability to defend Obama's positions and speeches, so he merely impugnes us as "racists."
I also find it painfully ironic that Laborlawyer will give his unvarnished support to Barry Obama even as Obama sticks by his America-hating MENTOR Reverend Wrong for 20 years all the while a bunch of anti-Semitic terrorist sympathizing garbage is being printed in the church bulletin.
Yet at the same time, Laborlawyer holds us Townhall commenters 'responsible' for allegedly 'objectionable' comments by other Townhall commenters we don't even know, and in many cases, comments we didn't even see.
I wish our pal Laborlawyer would just be honest and admit it's all about politics for him.
He shares Obama's radical left-wing views about the role of government, therefore he intends to vote for Obama no matter how many America-hating, Israel-hating, "bitter" folks Obama keeps in his inner circle.
By the way, Laborlawyer, you might be interested in seeing my several responses to Paddy O'Furniture when he called Elton John a "sad old faggot" last week, put this link in your browser;
http://townhall.com/blog/g/5f0acb1f-2ae2-4ad5-80c2-8ea22a79 9d81?comments=true#comments |
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You are twisting Obama's words. What he's saying is that people are angry and bitter over the destruction of their economic way of life caused by thirty years of modern conservatism and spineless Democrats. He's 100 percent correct.
As fo that "Bush is Hitler" stuff, you should know by now since I've said it many times that I despise it. Just as I despise calling Liberals "fascists". You see, it goes both ways. |
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On McCain, I believe you are compressing two different points. I did say at one point that the infantile name-calling of Obama and Hillary (I think I was responding to a "her thighness" reference- how witty!) reminded me of the battles progressives still face in this country. Just more humorless PC'ism on my part:)
I like McCain and have over the years developed a lot of respect for his independent streak. I disagree with him on many issues but I think he will be, if elected, a far better President than GWB. At least he has some respect for the Constitution and the rule of law, something this Administration and its' enablers such as John Yoo have completely and disgracefully ignored. But it scares me to think how the denizens of HH/Townhall will treat a President Obama.
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For the recrd: I am no fan of Sharpton or Jackson. They are race hustlers. The Brawley case was a disgrace. Of course, you would know this was how I felt if you'd read my posts for substance rather than looking for a way to call me sad, pathetic, dishonest, hypocritical, unreligious, or any of the many other ad hominems you have directed at me.
Cabal: I never really thought of myself as all that thin-skinned. Then I realized I don't like name-calling in the guise of debate. The last thread I participated in, one poster said I "prayed" no one remembered what I wrote, and another poster responded that he doubted I prayed at all. Putting up with that kind of deeply personal crap is not worth the price of admission. And the smugness of it all to believe you're above Kos because you don't use swear words.
Anyway, Brob and PL have the right idea. Don't try to engage respectfully with people who don't respect you, just say your piece and move on (to coin a phrase). That's what I'll be doing from now on when I post here. |
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Yeah Republicans are all racists, that's why my family supports two African orphans and a university student in W Africa.Plus helping with dozens of water wells, free medical clinics and other things we have been involved in there. Unless Juan,Laborlawyer and other Leftoids can show generous credentials to the African people SHUT UP and go put your own money where you blabbering PC mouths are!Two things that gaul me is that the Clintons presided over the greatest slaughter of black people in current history (Rwawndan genocide)and the Democrat Party endorses abortion on demand that has slaughtered tens of millions of Black babies in the USA, but Republicans are branded the racists! Go figure. |
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these threads, but, I agree, you're exceptionally thin skinned for somebody who wishes to cross political swords around HH. S/A86 appears to my eye to be a "pamphleteer" and a pretty entertaining one from my view. But, certainly no racist. Come on, counsellor! I might be wrong in my memory, but aren't you the same fella who stated, some time back, that if John McCain were supported for the right reasons on these threads, you might very well vote for him? But, you wouldn't if his support came for Non-PC reasons(My descriptive). I thought at the time that the logic there was, at best, flawed.
Anyway, friend, happy trails and all best. Sorry to see that your skin wasn't thicker. |
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Help me here.
That candidate of yours, Barack Obama, did he apologize to America for making his public comment----which of course, was carried nationally----did he apologize for "Typical White Person" references?
I simply want to know, so that I can put this "UNIFYING" individual into proper perspective.
Has he come out publicly and apologized to those of my relatives in rural America who were referenced OFFENSIVELY in his public speech a week ago?
My family do not turn to religion out of bitterness. They seek religion out of JOY, and the deeply held beliefs which religion serves. I have not heard his apology.
Okay, looking forward to your response so that we can get back to the normative name calling--that which is lobbed at conservatives in the normal course of conversation.
You know---made famous by the actress who declared publicly that republicans could be found in the dictionary between, "reptile" and "repugnant". An example of the day-to-day ridicule republicans and conservatives have endured for decades of ridicule:
"Reagan is STUPID"
"BUSH IS STUPID"
"F*CK BUSH"
"HATE BUSH"
"BUSH IS HITLER"
"F**K BUSH"
"GENERAL BETRAYUS"
"VAST-RIGHT-WING-CONSPIRACY"
"Conservative Culture of Corruption"
Carry on.
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Now he's insulting women who hunt ?
"She is running around talking about how this is an insult to sportsmen, how she values the Second Amendment. She's talking like she's Annie Oakley," Obama said.
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Laborious Lawyer
Last you were here, my memory recalls that I denounced all racism. I reviewed the posts of the poster you referenced and conveyed that I did not subscribe to what was said.
Apparently that was not the end of it for you as you went away, wallowing in this incident or two of a poster making an inappropriate comment.
Now, I also asked you about Al Sharpton's lack of apology for all the damage caused in his Tawana Brawley REVERSE RACISM legal case. Al Sharpton NEVER apologized to the American public.
AlSharpton never apologized for trying the DUKE RAPE CASE in the public arena, well before cooler heads found that to be, "TAWANA BRAWLEY II".
Jesse Jackson NEVER apologized for his complicit behavior in teh DUKE RAPE CASE.
I NEVER heard anyone coming out against Mayor Ray Nagin in his "Chocolate" New Orleans comment. |
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is back after stomping out in a huff(ington).
We may know that, despite his ASSertions to the contrary he has been reading every bit of it, and comping at the bit to submit his brief.
Indict us all, LL, bigots that we are, as it matters not a bit. We are castigated as bigots even when we do notpoke a bit of fun at the chocolate hero and the putative first negress.
In fact, the newly promulgated definition of racism is to not vote for babakazama. |
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My friend, I stopped posting here because of the racism you have detected and the unwilingness of people who I thought I respected to disown it. Amerigenerous, of "picaninny" fame, previously referred to Obama's wife as seeking to become "first negress". S/A86 referred to Obama as a "chocolate hero' and used other epithets. They gave me the same idiotic runaround they've given you and then of course started infantile name-calling directed at me.
I used to agree with you that this was a better site than Huffpost. It isn't. The folks here are no more interested than the Kos Kids in discussing issues. It's all about name-calling, put-downs, and racism that claims not to be (why, some of my best friends are....) point this out and yo're just another P.C. liberal.
Of course, I really am a liberal, and you're not, right? Maybe you should rethink the company you keep. After all, you actually can be a liberal and think Mumia Abu Jamal is a garden variety cop-killer overdue for the needle. That's my view all the way. Hasn't helped me establish civility here.
Brob, PatLib, James, Briggsy, Dudley, keep the faith. You've thicker skins than I do. I may drop back in time to time. But my exchange with the racists here convinced me this is not company I want to keep regularly. |
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I'm not Obama fan, but you wrote the following:
"Muslim problem
New little problem for Barry O,an unproclaimed trip to Pakistan in 81',with his Muslim rommate, that no one can find now, oh man!"
I read somewhere this weekend that Obama has been citing a three-week trip to Pakistan more than 25 years ago as a reason he believes he has a broader view of the world than the other two candidates. Is he kidding? I can't make this stuff up.
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Grip on your PC-Self! You've dedicated all that blatering bloviation to something most of us don't even see as a speck on the windscreen. Is it mathmatically possible for y'all to be more pompous than you already are??Every time I think Lib-Lefties have peaked on their Tolerance & Diversity horsesh!t, y'all reach a higher bar.
Chill. |
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as I have already said, if you do not like it, grab the hem of your skirt, huff, puff and click the "I AM O F F E N D E D !!!" link that the host of this blog has conveniently provided.
Amerigous is enititled to his words, just as anyone else here is.
You sound like the dean of one of those sh!tty little liberal arts colleges in Vermunt.
Save your PC whining for your limousine liberal golfing pals. |
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I don't think it matters that much which one McCain faces. Billary unites conservatives and has had her share of blunders in the primary. Now Obama's latest "bitter" stumble, his preacher, Michelle's America. Just think of the sound bite commercials you could make. |
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Muslim problem
New little problem for Barry O,an unproclaimed trip to Pakistan in 81',with his Muslim rommate, that no one can find now, oh man!
If this is true ? Remember the passport breach ? I said then I thought they might be deleting something from Obama's passport ? Is it true ? It turned out to be Obama's people.
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a Prvada Blogpiece...errr...The Nation Blog that I don't know how to link, but those interested can read her at today's realclearpolitics.com..
It is--Surprise--adamantine in its defense of O'Bammy and his elitist pronouncements. Red Katrina is editor of The Nation and, rarely discussed, Jules & Doris Stein's Grandaughter and heir of their sole child's inheritance of hundreds of millions. With those impeccably paradoxical Leninist credentials, she hasn't been out of her 5th Avenue digs in anything but a limo to her Gulfstream in 20-years. As Left as a Nation editor can be and, jeeeeepers, vociferous in her Stand Up with Barack. Sends chills of comfort and reassurance up my left leg. |
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this nonsense. What transparent crybabies and PC Police these kosroid infestors are. Hugh's Blog Administrator, Chris, has a brain and good judgment. |
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song that he's, additionally, all about:
All about grift,
And all about sh!t,
Just saying... |
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A week ago Obama makes the claim that rural Pennsylvanians turn to religion out of bitterness.
huffingtonPost picks up the audio tape and runs it on its vile website on Friday. Questions arise for Obama.
He is heard on Saturday while giving a speech in Indiana. He says he is being slimedby his detractors. He claims he is being treated unfairly in what he said-----which by the way he continues to defend-----UNTIL, he gets to Illinois.
Now he claims to have "phrased" it wrong.
Really? After defending his phraseology in Indiana? He ONLY defended himself then.
Nor did he claim that he mis-phrased those comments.
Now he does.
Hmmmmmmm... He's all about "Fresh"?
He's all about, "Change"?
He's all about, "Hope"?
Which part of him? OOOOOOhhhhhhhhh, I get it. He's all about Change, Hope, Freshness only until you scratch below the surface---I get it. |
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pomposity meisters, my friend! Good stuff. What a load of codswallow they are heaving. Good grief, did they mistake HH for PC Central? Useful Idiots! Just not useful for our cause, only Lenin's. |
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claim below that Barack is humble? Further, did he claim, by inference, that President Bush is an elitist? Did he give Obama nods for his true touch with regular Americans?
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I'm not a lefty, but I may be arrogant, at least concerning you.
I'm not upset at your dull scribbling because of "one word". I'm upset because that one word, and your embarrassing defense of it, cheapens this site and lowers the discourse of everyone else who posts on it. It cheapens Hugh Hewitt. Use that word on the show with Hugh and see if you don't get bleeped and dumped. It's low class. It demeans both Obama and yourself, him racially, and you as if you were wearing a dunce cap. It's a sad, atavistic throwback to a time when knuckledraggers who hadn't the wit to make an argument on the merits threw out racially charged slurs as their last, worst defense.
Obama made a potentially career killing, certainly stupid gaffe, and you had to call him a pickaninny. His own bonehead mistake wasn't enough. He couldn't just be stupid. He had to be black and stupid. Just had to get the black part in there didn't you? He can't be an idiot on his own terms like you.
And again, you're a fraud. You'll defend what you said because you'd feel humiliated to admit you were wrong, but you won't use anymore of those terms. Pickaninny isn't the only "clever" slur in your arsenal. You're afraid to use any other racially charged language again because you know it is wrong.
So, I'm finished. Have fun and call me an elitist, Orwellian,...blah, blah, blah. But call your mom, or your girlfriend or whoever, and tell them that some effete,elitist,lefty snob got all upset and tried to P.C. you into submission just because you called Barack Obama a pickaninny. Let me know their reaction.
Best,
Juan
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clear of sharp instruments! And, proceed with his symphonic career. |
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New little problem for Barry O,an unproclaimed trip to Pakistan in 81',with his Muslim rommate, that no one can find now, oh man!
Barry O, went to Muslim school, has a Muslim father, has a Muslim name, pastor is a former Muslim, roommate was a Muslim, went to Pakistan.....we are at war with????? |
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Not one of them will stem the tide crashing our borders. |
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Compadre,
Leaving aside opera and symphony (background), here's the plot: two old guys (me, you, women) and crew sail from Baja California to the Galapagos Islands, where there is a small indigenous population. In the interval, a catastrophe of global warming destroys civilization. Now, it's up to us. But, in the breakdown of ideology, the conservatives claim half the islands, liberals the other half.
('44? I don't think so; try, '64) |
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lies with Obama, his wife and his pastor. Every time they open their mouths, the bitterness rings loud and true. |
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I have to respectfully disagree with you about Townhall being hypocritical re: this site. I don't pay attention to O'Reilly, but I lurk here a lot and post occasionally, and the reason I'm so p.o'd at Armigerous is because his kind of writing is anomalous here. I like this site and I recommend it to friends who are to the left of me as a pretty good example of reasoned discourse from people who are right of center. When a guy like Armigerous comes around, he reinforces stereotypes about us. That we're bigots. That we won't vote for Obama because he's black.
I don't know if you spend much time at Huffington post, but the level of anti-semitism, and just plain hatred, goes way beyond the racism or religious bigotry you might see on this site. There's literally no comparison.
That said, I did think there would be more anger at Armigerous. That's a little disappointing. |
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Two things:
First, do you actually believe that "...puts the ninny in pickaninny" is some towering bon mot? Do you imagine it's some Swiftian coup de grace that pithily speaks volumes of truth with elegant brevity? It's the joke of a bigoted ten year old. It's dull and apish. It took "no imagination or creativity at all." Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back over that one, Voltaire.
Second, I'm being tiresome because you still won't admit what you mean. That if the political actor is heinous enough, and if your wit is sharp enough, that racial epithets are acceptable.
Here let me help you. "Obama is the Marxist in the Democratic wood pile." "He's all batter and no chicken." "He tasted the watermelon of victory and choked on the seeds of his own hubris."
All perfectly acceptable right? If you think so you're an idiot, and the only difference between your ugly trash and mine is that you felt good about writing it.
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If only Obama would be as angry at gun-toting religious extremists living in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, and Gaza as he is at the ones which he alleges live in...Pennsylvania !
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There are no worries. We are going to retain control of Congress.
I, for one, would rather lose with Barack than win with HRC. At the same time, if it comes down to HRC vs. Gramps, I'll go and vote for her. But many of us think that, at this moment, with the massive failure and subsequent discrediting of Boomer-style conservatism, America is ready for a generational realignment.
The situation is analogous to the late 1970s, when widespread stagflation triggered a long festering right-wing backlash, resulting in the conservative ascendancy. Or the early 1930s, when the Depression forced Americans to rethink their social Darwinist assumptions and led to an era of welfare liberalism.
Given that, I and other liberals think we are better off going for the gold. It would be like if the GOP had gone with Reagan instead of Ford in 1976. The downside risk is limited, and the upside is a whole new political dynamic. Sooooo, you should be very, very afraid. The chickens of Republican mis-governance are coming home to roost over the next several years, and all the hee-haw and flimflam in the world ain't gonna stop it.. |
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Barack will misspeak now and again. He will speak haltingly and stammer. He'll bowl a 37 (dangit, Barry, aim at those arrows right there). His pastor will be taped in anti-American rages. And it will be water on a ducks back. Why? Because America is ready for authentic leadership. We are ready to be led by human beings who are not perfect, who are humble and flawed and imperfect as we are. We are ready to be led by these kinds of people because we have seen the BS, the moral cartoonishness, the sheer collapse, that comes with the toxic alternative. Barack has talent. Barack has insight. Barack is a good guy. Barack is not perfect. But in this election, a smart, fair-minded, decent human being might actually win. In this election, truth may prevail over power. |
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GOPTiger writes: "How can a candidate whose entire delegate lead is based on the notoriously undemocratic caucus campaign as the one candidate able to 'unity' the country? He can't even unify his party."
From my reading of the lefty blogs (Daily KOS, etc.), I gather that the Obama supporters are being duplicitous about their strategy:
To the mainstream of America, including you and me, they claim publicly that Obama's appeal is to unity, bringing people together, all that cant.
But in their own mathematical calculations, they are counting on a surge of new black and college-educated liberal voters to tip the electoral balance in their favor. In other words, they are trying to do the mirror image of Karl Rove's playbook: Scrape together a bare 51% majority of liberals and Democrats, take power, and then proceed to ram their ideas down the throats of the other 49% of the country.
Not "unity." Not "consensus." More of the politics of division, Karl Rove's playbook turned on its head.
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The real problem here is not Armigeracist. He's just some poor slob who gets his jollies making bigoted remarks on the internet.
The real problem is the hypocrisy of townhall. They complain on Bill O Reilly about Huffington Post being a "hate website", and now look at this crap that has been up here for two days? How is it possible that Obama is referred to as a "pickaninny" and this is not seen as hate speech? Are we living is some kind of Bizzaro world here? |
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This is a serious query. Have I missed something? You wrote that Armigerous explained the gaff by cyber dragging (whatever that is).
Did he not write the pickaninny line and is he not defending it? |
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This is a new first for me. But I'm backing down from my comments.
I do not want to fight with my fellow Republicans.
You're right it probably is my female DNA.
We all have a common enemy here. That's Barak. Because I believe he is truly dangerous for this country.
I don't hate the Clintons. Better the devil you know ? The country survived the Clintons. It will not survive Obama. |
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Weird. I was going to say.
Yes Hillary is getting the shaft. Hopefully she'll take advantage of Bambies foot in the mouth.
Conservatives seem to think they have a lock on the Republican party. John McCain pretty much blew that theory out of the water. |
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signing the Hillary Victim petition and cheering,"You GO, GIRL?" Republican, though you are. And, I promise, meaning no disrespect. Just curious about the Stand Up for this shrill, ruthless player. |
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I never said I was a conservative. I'm a Republican. Just like the Democrats we come in many shapes and sizes. |
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woman are buying that Lady MacClinton is a po'wittle victim of those BAAAAD Demowits? Because Bammy is tone deaf & clueless, he'll prolly still get the nom and you're bleating VICTIM in MacClinton's defense?!
Will Wonders..WONDERS...W O N D E R S...Never cease?! |
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is boundless. Armigerous s'plained the gaff by cyber dragging early YESTERDAY. Dig the S*!t outta your beady little concupisant eyes, Pygmie. |
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Their Political analyst Mark Murray just spent 5 minutes explaining what a great guy O'Bambie is and what he really meant to say. He knows the pain these people are feeling.
Shouldn't this be illegal for a political analyst for a network.
So here we go people. The networks have their talking points from the O'Bambie camp. Hillary will end up being the villain for questioning O'Bambie's elitism.
Hillary should take a page from the swiftboaters. Remember how the media howled. And it didn't work.
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All the libs praise O'Bambie for his great speaking skills. Every time he's in trouble all I hear is stuttering. Searching for words to cover his butt. And not doing a very good job. Like a deer in the headlights. Then the press comes in to bail him out.
Hillary seems to be a much better speaker and at least sounds genuine. She takes the hits and immediately jumps back in. And she is at a big disadvantage with the press. They are out to crucify her for even daring to stay in this race and challenging their choice.
I support John McCain. But Hillary has been given a raw deal here by the same democrats who that claimed to be her friends. I am truly amazed at her stamina and grit. YOU GO GIRL
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Black Man that Joe Biden promised the electorate?
If so, he has again over-articulated himself...over into the land of the glib.
What may in fact be annoying babakazama supporters about all of this is that like the sclerotic rantings of Jeremiah Wright, nice, uptitght white liberal BELIEVE what babakazama said about small town Pennsy.
The words escaped his privileged mouth not in Pennsylvania, but in the comforting 'progressive' city-wide SALon called San Francisco.
So elite, effete white liberals agree with babakazama, but are aghast that small town America might get a peak up their skirt. This, like babakazama's mien, is the very height of arrogance----->
Small town America has known for eons what big city liberals think of them. |
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Oh, goody. The Hillary surrogates will be blabbering about 'The Horrrrooooorrrrr' of Barack's Vapid-Clueless-Tone Deaf San Francisco blather. McJuan surrogates will probably add a bit of lighter fluid...And, Obama's mouthpieces will be hurrrrummmpphhing about "out of context" victimization of Mister Hope-Change-Clean on the Sunday Morning Blabberfest today.
Stunning, how quickly things can turn. This wasn't just a bad gaff. It, added to other things, is a look into the Kid's makeup...and, it ain't promising. This Guy as Leader of the Unipolar Power on the Planet--In Huge Time of War!
Also morbidly amusing is 'the reveal' by Leftoids here on this very thread--Blovie Boy's the very best example--of how CLUELESS they too are about Americans. Those lil' paws are on those snarky hips and that lil'brow is furrowed with the rank injustice of piling on their Amateur Player when...when...when..Boooosh IS THE Bad Boy, Dammit!! Oh, the injustice. The Rank Injustice. Blovie's lil'feral teeth are biting his lil'lippers and he's just so a-mazed at how the Evil Reeps pulled this fiasco off without doing anything!! Oh, The Horrrrrrorrrrr....! |
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Why didn't Democrats look more closely at Obama? Now they're stuck with him or with Hillary, and in either case they're mortally wounded.
Walter Williams wrote a great column about three weeks ago. He wrote Obama would set blacks back for years. He's not exceptional. In fact, he's a moron. And what did anyone expect? Political science major and a law degree. Then, a "community activist." What's that? Did he do anything beneficial for his community? I read where his three terms as an Illinois state senator were marginal. Look on the Web for informationation about his stance on partial-birth abortions. He's a ghoul.
What's funny is that whereas his supporters are always complaining about snippets getting taken out of context, in this case the more information uncovered, the worse it gets. In short, he was asked why he's not getting across to PA voters, and he decides to blame it on pinheaded Midwestern (not smart enough to limit it to PA) voters in small towns.
If Clinton didn't believe in the Tooth Fairy, she does now. In fact, all you need is the Al Michaels call from the 1980 U.S.-U.S.S.R. hockey game: "Do you believe in miracles? Yes!!"
New name: Barack (George McGovern/Barry Goldwater) Obama. |
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Way to go libs! The old foot in mouth disease strikes again. Actually, Obama was being honest but now has to speak with a forked tongue (as all liberal politicians do) to extricate himself from what he believes in. More lib politicians should speak honestly about their true beliefs more often so they can be booted out of office all the sooner. |
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You mean he wasn't politically correct towards small town America.
Maybe small town America should stop "Lynching" Tiger Woods. |
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Obama's latest gaffe is truly awful because it is more than a bad choice of words: it reveals who he truly is to the voters. Middle America does not want a left-wing, elitist, condescending snob in the White House. His contempt for America and Americans is now almost palpable.
This is not necessarily good news for Hillary. A lot of blacks think that they are witnessing history, and on the verge of electing the first black president. If Obama doesn't get the nomination they will feel as though they have been robbed once again by the white power structure, and may very well stay home on election day. And no Democrat can win the White House without a significant black voter turnout.
The Democrats should have been able to coast to victory, with a flagging economy, an unpopular war, and a Republican candidate who offends his base. But lets watch as they show us how to wrench defeat from the jaws of victory. Its no wonder they don't think we can win in Iraq. |
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Seems the democrats have got a problem. I just watched Governor Ed Rendell on CNN. He was blasting Obama for his stupid statements. Of course he's a Hillary supporter but, he can't get too negative on Obama or the party will start squealing.
CNN tryed to get Rendell to stop Hillary's campaign from doing this ad. Fat chance of that. This ones in the can.
Oh my what a tangled web we weave. |
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A few beers with the confused lgf82,
and, the melodic, incantations of NeoConScum.
"Whose bread I eat, his song I sing". |
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I've been too shy and demure to burst out in The Bazama Song lately. But, since you asked...and, since there are recent events that arguably shreik for an addition or rewrite to the "Change & Hope Anthem", I'll say, 'Awww, shucks, Mam...' and sing a few bars for ya, Babycakes...
"...Change, Change,Chaaaaaange...Change of Hooooooppppeeeee...Hope, Hope, Hoooooope...Hope of Chaaaaange...Meaningless Woooorrddddssss..But, Goooood For Dumbos....Dumb, Dumb, Duuuummmb... Fooooooolks Buyin' The 'Chitttttttt...'Chit, Chit, Chiiiiitttttt.....Griffftin' 'Chiiiitttttt..
Grift, Grift, Griffttinnnn 'Chiiiittttt...O'Yeah!"
There. No...Please...Standing only embarrasses me...No, Really... |
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and missed your Job Application. Sorry.
Focus, Dudds: ALL people currently living in the USA have 'unfinished screenplay ideas' stored in the file drawer. No one, however, has an unfinished, but promising, opera or symphony stored in same. Practice at getting those published and we'll talk. :-)
'49...? Go figure. |
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About War. McCain is at war with our enemies abroad. Obama is at war with fellow citizens in the USA. Who will the americans elect in November? No brainer to me, I'd rather be in Iraq 100 years (figuratively speaking) than be made to deal with the "black liberation theology" philosophy of putting Africa/black needs first without prequalification. Obama's presidency will be like an Oprah show combined with a Wright sermon topped off with an Al Sharpton radio show. I doubt americans want that drama in the whitehouse. Have I mentioned the kenyan muslim step brothers/sisters who will have access to the whitehouse to hang out with their american president brother? IS THIS A JOKE??????
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Appreciate your asking.
I believe NeoCon has those lyrics.
You might want to approach him on that.
I would , but...
Me? On my way to have a beer with lgf82 as we jest about the nonsense in this entire thread. Geeeeeeesh, if you can't have fun with politics...
Me and lgf82
Laugh and the world laughs with you;
Weep, and you weep alone;
For the sad old earth must borrow its mirth,
But has trouble enough of its own.
-Ella Wheeler Wilcox, "Solitude," New York Sun
(1883)
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hey - I think I have to learn the lyrics to that Obama chant if we are all uniting and chanting in our newly coronated king of all people - Barak Hussein Obama. Do you have the lyrics? or will that be served with the beers? Should we do this at a nice upscale restaurant in manhattn, san francisco or in a nice "small town" where frustration and bitterness might lead us to church tomorrow and cause us to own guns and vote based on gay right marriage? Let me know. |
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1. Give $845 billion in the next 13 to Africans and Arabs, in addition to other aid we are already giving because we are making a vow to end poverty. Clearly, God needs to take notes from Barak because he has figured out how to end poverty.
2. Get soldiers out of Iraq in 6-18 mths no matter what the progress reports say. His policy adviser says it's logistically impossible to do so but never mind.
3. Fund a federal healthcare system that only 29% of americans support. Never mind that the feds. have already screwed up social security.
4. Support Wright, Farakhan, Ayers and any other person who has a problem with our constitutional right to defend ourselves and destroy those who threaten the USA.
5. Stay married to Michelle, the champion of "america is mean" campaign in the middle east, africa and any other al qaeda infested areas.
6. Negotiate with Iran and other terror supporting nations because it worked very well for Bhutto in Pakistan.
7. Pardon Bin Ladin and every other terrorist because these people are "just like us and we should not think we are any better than they are". Plus these are my muslim brothers in Allah.
8. Have kenyan step-siblings and relatives visit and stay in the whitehouse as long as they want because "we americans need to reach out to the poor, and charity begins at home".
9. After removing troops from Iraq,return the troops and do whatever it takes to defeat al -qaeda. Ignore the 4 star general's recommendation to do s0 that now because Obama has the right stragegy based on his community organizing skills.
10. Tax, tax and then tax anybody who earns $75K or more because messiah Obama has the answers for all people and he understands all people because he is all people(white, black, red, and anything else in between). And americans thought Bill Clinton was self absorbed? At least Bill was governor of a state. YIKES! |
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Clare is the devil, boy, don't listen to him. He's already going to Hell. One beer with him, and... I've said enough. If he ever contacts you again, call me at the number I gave you. Best luck, |
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But nearly all the news that I WATCH is Fox News. I love to hear the other sides arguments, and that is why I come onto this site and other conservative blogs. I dont want to see and read people with my exact same views. I want to see the other sides perspective. The more I see and read the more I view the arguments as humorous. If you expressed anti-Obama views based on the views he espouses I ca n respect that. I dont see anything wrong with making political hay out of his comments from yesterday. But to pin the words of his pastor on him is amusing. I base my views of Obama by what he says , writes, and actions HE takes. Nothing else. If someone can prove to me that he is a phony Ill change my mind. But after reading his two books, listening to his speeches, and looking over his voting record, I have no indication he is a closet racist, elitist, marxist,hating America, or any of the other insults thrown his way. If you want to accuse him of something accuse him of being a liberal. the more I hear the other attacks the more I realize how scared the Republicans are of him. If the Republicans are scared of him he must be doing something right. |
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lgf82:
"What I cant respect is voting against him on the sole basis of all this other trivial meaningless stuff."
You are absolutely correct.
But, then, you don't think we have been serious do you? Man, you need to lighten up.
His ties to multiple characters who involve themselves with terrorism?---just childish humor, dude.
His church and all it espouses in those soundbites? Jesus-Jokes, Scripture-Satire, Holy-Humor---that's all.
hey, dude, let's all go have a beer and call it even, huh? There now, all better? |
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Obama's inelectibility is so obvious, it must be driving Clintons nuts to think they may loose to an even bigger looser. At least with Hillary people think she will put up a descent fight. With Obama, it will be a wash - I predict 45 states vote for McCain. Even democrats are beginning to realize Obama is a big liability. Gore must be kicking himself because this year would have been a sure thing for him. He is the only democrat who would have beaten McCain. Coming from his global tour of "an inconvenient truth", his oscar win, his big speech at the UN in indonesia last fall. He would have been the only democrat whose foreign experience and executive experience would have defeated McCain's honor, service and respect. He must be kicking himself! |
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When you're commenting on a Black man and you use the word "Pickaninny", you're a racist, plain and simple. It doesn't matter what arguments you make afterwards. If I were you I would apologize.
But more shameful is Townhall, which hasn't removed your hate-filled comments, which makes them look incredibly hypocritical. |
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Sarah watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ
Now im sure you are going to disagree with his thesis, that we should not meet violence with violence. But to argue that he is gloating over the 9/11 attacks based on this sermon is ridiculous. |
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You stated Wright knows the AIDS statement isn't true.
But, I think Wright WANTS it to be true. A demanding, surly victimhood is what is selling in too many African American circles.
If there is any doubt about its appeal, just look at the reaction of the congregation to Wright's statements. They WANT it to be true too.
Why? Because then they can GLORY in their collective victimhood.
Fortunately, many African Americans see this type of Jim Jones Kool-Aid for what it is. The fact Barry Obama can't see, or refuses to see it, demonstrates he doesn't have the wisdom to lead America, much less 'heal' our soul.
Speaking of "healing our souls", the Democrats have two senators running for president. One grew up in Illinios, the other was born in a manger.
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I listed relationships, only a few of them, of Barack Obama. It is clear you place no credence in his maintaining relationships with known terrorists------coupled with the "sound bites" of HATE which have been shown of late.
Yeah---you wouldn't know a ham sandwich if it slapped you in the face.
I see---you negate all you hear and see until the mainstream media---your heros, Chris Matthews, Tim Russert, Keith Olbermann, Katie Couric, Dan Rather, Bill Moyers, et al release their extensive, exhaustive, comprehensive investigative report on Barack Hussein Obama.
Slumber on, oh little one.
Yet ah! why should they know their fate,
Since sorrow never comes too late,
And happiness too swiftly flies?
Thought would destroy their paradise.
No more; where ignorance is bliss.
'Tis folly to be wise.
-Thomas Gray, "On a Distant Prospect of Eton College" (1742) |
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Remember when Kerry insulted soldiers serving in Iraq during a speech to high schoolers (not sure). But he said if they did not perform well in school and get good grades they would end up in Iraq. Then he issued an apology saying he is sorry the soldiers were too stupid to understand his joke that was not supposed to be an insult but an encouragement for the kids to earn good grades. And that he (Kerry) apologizes for hurting the feelings of the soldiers who were too stupid to understand it was a joke. |
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You're entitled to your opinion. Just make sure you're registered with the authorities so we know where you are. |
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Dont issues matter? Even if I believed the worst of whats being said about Barack I would still vote for him. Why? Because he is right on the issues. I was dumb enough to vote for Bush in 2000 because I too saw Gore and elitist and out of touch. His sighs, lies about inventing the internet, etc. Bush was someone I could drink a beer with. Now that I see how that turned out Id rather vote for an Elitist who is right on the issues. I dont care if I personally like the President, (I think Bill Clinton is a horrible person, but think he was a great person) Im voting on the issues, not who is someones pastor, not on where a candidate lived, not because a candidate was a war prisoner and war hero, Im basing my vote on the issues. Now I know that conservatives do not believe almost all of what Obama says and if they vote against him on those issues I can respect that. What I cant respect is voting against him on the sole basis of all this other trivial meaningless stuff. |
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For all the spin of the Drive-By Media, now everyone will know that these profoundly disgusting attitudes are not limited to Obama’s spiritual mentor (whom he distanced himself from, of course) or his wife, whispering sweet hatings into his ear at beddy-by time (just a little woman, pay her no never mind). Those attitudes are part and parcel of who and what Obama is, and what the Democratic party has been for a generation.
The Clintons hid it well, through misdirection letting everyone concentrate on the obvious lies; John Kerry and Dukakis not so well; and now comes Obama, so green and dorky he didn’t even get the fact that he let the cat out of bag, until the roof caved in on him.
His “explanation” was even worse tha the original comment, peppered with condescention toward “ordinary” Americans (as opposed to his extraorinary self, one presumes).
The Democrats do remind of a man jumping out of a 100th-floor window and changing his mind by the time he reached 40th, the problem is the alternative they come up with is to jump out of a 90th-floor window |
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Friends whose parents are as old as Wright. |
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I think what scares liberals is, now having fully invested themselves in Barry's candidacy, they realize there is a great deal they don't know about him.
When Sarah and Clarity give very specific information about Barry and his background, they get very nervous. They start spinning wildly trying to rationalize/'contextualize' all of it, but you can almost smell the flop sweat. They are terrified this narrative about Barry will become common knowledge.
Remember what Carville said two weeks ago when asked about Obama, Wright, and electability? He said, "This is about 1 of a 100 things."
100?
McCain doesn't need a 100 to win, and win decisively.
Mark my words-the GOP will pick up House seats as Obama gets trounced in the heartland.
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1. His sermon (entire sermon) 4 days after 9/11. I have seen more remorse from jihadists when buildings fall down with kids in them. This angry man was ranting about whitey getting what he deserved when innocent americans were still searching for their loved ones. 4 days after 9/11 - just like jihadists were dancing on the streets in the middle east. This makes him a racist because he thinks white people dying is "okay" in his twisted way because for some bizare reason he attributes all his failures to whites.
2. "God Damn America" This makes him angry. Follow this up with his speeches and writings. There are many of them.
3. "Govt. invented AIDS virus to kill people of color". This makes him a lunatic.
FYI - I know as an educated man, Wright does not believe any of this garbage. Like the preacher who uses a sermon to ask for money in the name of jesus while he lives a luxurious life. Wright is the guy who exploits past social injustice to give himself a luxurious life in the upper side of chicago while he incites poor blacks in inner city chicago. Use the poor masses to fund his rich life style. PATHETIC - was the other adjective for him. |
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McCain has these three factors working for him. Obama has Wright, Farakhan, Michelle, Ayers and insults for middle americans. On McCain's worst day - whatever his issue of the day was - Obama still looks worse. That is summary of it. |
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He has acknowledge his Muslim roots, he wrote an entire book on his heritage Dreams of My Fathers. You may do well to pick up the book and read it. It goes through his spiritual journey to finding his roots and Christianity. I dont expect to you to vote for Obama after reading it, but if you are interested in knowing what makes him tick, pick up the book and give it a read. |
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Sarah, you have come to conclude that Wright is racist lunatic based on what? Have you met him? Have you watched an entire sermon by him? Have you read one of his books? Was he a racist lunatic when he gave up his student deferment to join the Marines inspired by Kennedys ask not speech. Maybe when he was on the medical team which aided President Lydon Johnson and got three letters of commendation from the President. Maybe when he traveled to Tripoli to help negotiate the release of naval pilot Robert O Johnson who was being held captive by the Lebonese. No lets judge the man by the 60 second sound clips taken out of context on youtube. |
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I do not have the time to list all the reasons why Barak is not qualified to be president. But you seem like an intelligent person who can do research - start with the "unmasking barak" post above. The point I was making is that Obama is lying about who he is and that is disturbing to the average american. If he acknowledged his muslim roots and influence then we would at least view him as an authentic person. Now he is just another lying politicians. Only his lies rise up to high crimes and make Hillary's Bosnia story look like a bedtime story I'd read to my kid. Obama's close friends and associates are dangerous people who want Israel and USA destroyed. His church has printed lots of hammas friendly material and his mentor Wright visited kadaffi - do these sound like people who share USA values? Americans would have to be stupid enough to believe that Obama's religion and the people in his inner circle (who hate this country) need access to the executive branch of govt. Americans are not that stupid. FYI - one of my good friends is muslim and my hair dresser is a muslim. So don't treat me like a "small town" bitter, frustrated person who goes to church because I am frustrated and votes for my gun rights because I am frustrated with jobs leaving this country. I am a wealthy immigrant who is PROUD to be an american. |
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Would black voters trust a white politician if he attended a church where the pastor routinely called attention to the disproportional rates of BLACK-on-WHITE crime, the disproportional rates of murder in the black community, and the disproportional rates of out-of-wedlock births in the black community?
Would black voters trust a white politician if he attended a church that gave an award to David Duke?
Would black voters trust a white politician if he gave a church 20 thousand bucks that espoused a 'white' value system?
Would black voters trust a politician who went to a church where the pastor said affirmative action and college set-aside programs were unfairly stacking the deck in favor of the black race?
Would black voters trust a white politician who went to a church where the pastor said all of society's problems were due the 'lazy black man'?
Would black voters trust a white politician who said he didn't always agree with his pastor but he wouldn't disavow him because to do so would be 'disavoing the white community'?
Would black voters trust a white politician, who when confronted with all these statements from his pastor, called him a 'brilliant man' and talked about how many soup kitchens he had opened?
Don't worry about answering. We all know the answer.
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part of your most recent comment to ldf re-'survived slavery...and I have many friends who survived slavery...' Correct it, Kiddo, or, being a Lefty, he's gonna jump ALL over the misstatement. |
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MCCAIN: I'm giving them a huge tax cut. And that is a fact.
And the reality is, that your tax plan has 36 percent of it going to the richest 1 percent in America. I don't do that. I think that we ought to give the tax relief to the people that need it the most.
http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0001/15/se.01.html |
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Now pay the pet's bill because my dog needs therapy after that hard kick you gave him. |
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Wright is an angry racist lunatic. You insult holocaust survivors by equating them to this man. First, Wright is well educated and knows that the Govt. did not invent AIDS to kill black people. He KNOWS THIS IS NOT TRUE. There are many black americans who lived through slavery. I have close friends who did. They do not believe outlandish things like - the feds. developed the HIV virus to kill people of color. I do not need to be a holocaust survivor to understand that Nazi's are bad people - the history of what they did makes me conclude they were bad people. I do not need to be a slavery survivor to know that Wright LIED about Govt. inventing AIDS in order to incite anger and hatred toward the USA and white people. I do not need to be a holocaust survivor to realize that Jews lost loved ones and that they felt anger toward the Nazi's who caused so much pain in their lives. I also do not need to be a slavery survivor to understand that the 9/11 victims did not get what they deserved because they were innocent people going to work to provide for their families. Wright was busy celebrating the fact that "whitey got what he deserved" while innocent people were digging up bodies hoping to find survivors. In any case, this is the man who has mentored Obama for the past 20 years. Any person who PICKS WRIGHT BY CHOICE to be his mentor, lacks the respect and honor to become president of United States. And yes, Wright is a shameful american not a real one. God help him as he retires in his $1.6M home reflecting his oppressed life as a black american. PLEASE! |
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Our Forefathers wished to guard against the whims of a 'tyranny of the majority' and, thank God, did exactly that. And, much to the sorrow of Big City Slicks, it would take a Constitutional Amendment being ratified(NOT Gonna happen..)to get that protection destroyed. |
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Among his "mentors", friends, "spiritual advisors":
1.) Barack's political "coming out" party was held (1995) at the home of longtime friends' Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. Ayers admitted to the New York Times in 2001 to bombing the Pentagon during May 1972. Yeah, that redefines healthy protest.
2.) Ayers and Obama served on the Wood's Fund together. They voted to give $75,000.00 to Rashid Khalid. Khalid served at, "Official Press Agency" for PLO ('76-'82). Khalid is a perennial apologist for Yasser Arafat, the man who spawned 2 Intifadas, and ordered the murder of American Diplomats among myriad successful terrorist events dating back to 1960's.
3.) Belonged (20 years) to the UCC, a church espousing, Black Liberal Theology, a mix of Marxist and racist doctrine. This theology, as Wright has elaborated, is closely aligned with the "liberation theology" of Nicaragua during the seventies and eighties: i.e., the doctrine that catalyzed Marxist revolutionaries.
4.) Wright, Obama's, adopted "Uncle", has provided Church newsletter space to present-day middle eastern terrorists with no counterpoints or denunciations.
Wright accompanied Louis Farrakhan on a trip to Libya to meet with that country's leader, MooMar Qhadafi.
5.) Another one of his friends, Tony Reszko, is presently defending himself in court against very serious allegations.
Because the mainstream media has enjoyed a longtime love affair with Obama, a complete list of his close allies has not yet been pieced together. Chris Matthews no doubt continues to get, "an excited feeling up and down his leg" over Obama----so it is understandable that NO revelations are forthcoming from that highly regarded news agency. NBC is, after all, the unofficial Obama News Agency.
One can only anticipate that Hillary Clinton will continue to have her minions digging deep for "juicy" material.
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Just another reason why we should thank God - or, more appropriately, our Founding Fathers - for the foresight in providing the Electoral College as the mechanism for electing the president. The EC provides more of a voice for "flyover country" than the popular vote would. The combination of a few major cities along the east and west coasts could easily elect a president based on the popular vote. Campaigns based on such elections would not have to appeal to the large middle - you could concentrate your campaign funds on a few of the most populous, leftist states, and you wouldn't have to keep up the veneer of being a "new type of politician" (i.e., unknown). |
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dimocrats regard Muslims as sacred novelties. Just as they deny that babakazama is a liberal, they will deny that he has ANY connection to the Muslim faith.
It's not my dog!
He didn't bite you!
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Ill entertain the ridiculous notion that Obama has been lying for the last 20 years about being a Christian. He is really a Muslim. What does that mean? Since he is a Muslim he MUST be a Jihadist. As we all know there are no Muslims that are not Jihadists. Or does it mean that Muslims should not be allowed to run for President. Im not really following this Muslim angle. Please explain how being a Muslim makes someone unqualified to run for office? |
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In 2004 Obama explained he would not run for president in 2008 because - he would not have the necessary experience. It's on utube and if you believe Obama, then even you must vote for McCain. |
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Zero sum has been disproved, and I do not believe McCain adheres to it. Where did you get the McCain quote from? I recall he was against the tax rate cuts because spending was not going to be reduced with it....so if you got the quote from Media Matters,they are pretty notorious for lying. |
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of a doubt you gave Wright (at least) and listen to his explanation about tax cuts and spending. He explained his vote and the reasons behind it. So the quote is right but the rest of the explanation is missing. Also, McCain's explanation is backed by his record of NEVER in 28 years ever asking for earmarks. Obama's earmarks to his wife's hospital were $1M and lets not discuss his other earmarks. Spending is Obama's only accomplishment in capital hill for the past 2 years. Make that one year since he started his presidential campaign one year after he became senator. |
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So David Duke and the Klan, by your generous definition, are 'real Americans' too. I find them to be lunatics, but you can glory in their real Americansism all you want.
I think most people- most voters anyway- may disagree with you about what constitutues a 'real American'. You see, and please don't take this the wrong way, but most Americans don't think a 'real Americans' plants bombs in the Pentagon and spread lies about how AIDS was invented.
I know I am just some hick from fly-over country, but trust me on this one. |
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when enrolled in 2 schools in indonesia (check the public records), was involved in ALL muslim prayers (only muslims are invited to prayer) and his father was muslim as are his step siblings in Kenya. His mother may have been atheist but his father was muslim. According to islam law, that makes him muslim which explains why he was enrolled in school as a muslim. His black liberation theology has a lot in common with the nation of islam. Obama said his ideology is not any different than that of the black panther who was running for office (when Obama ran for IL senate). His school records in indonesia are public so it's not a secret he was enrolled as a muslim twice. Obama says he has always been a christian - that is a lie. He was born a muslim, his father was a muslim and he was enrolled in school as a muslim - twice. Was his mother confused? |
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You are a breath of fresh air! Welcome here, enlightened Sarah!Don't let the Kos Kids Kindergarteners get on their high horse with ya, just slap em up side of the head with common sense and facts.
I totally agree that because Obama has a Muslim name, a Muslim father and a formerly Muslim pastor, he has got BIG Muslim ishshooes. The Jihadists are going to to try hard to hit Israel this summer and we will see then who Barry O supports;-D! |
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"I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who most need tax relief," - John Mccain |
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Damn, I'm startin' to like ya. Hey! I have some old screenplay ideas kickin' around. Did St.Thomas myself back in the late sixties. Vietnam vets, gun running, drugs, good guys and bad guys... Got any money? |
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In case you have recognized already America is a "melting pot" There are people here with many different views, some with which I agree and some with which I dont. Just because I dont agree with them or find some of their views appalling doesnt mean they are not "Real Americans" With respect to Wright, I dont agree with some of the stuff he has said and believes, but then again I cant possibly begin to imagine what he has endured in his life. Unless you are an African American who grew up during or before the Civil right movement you probably will never understand. I am a Jewish American, whose grandfather escaped persecution from Nazi Germany. He still to this day will not visit Germany, buy German beer, or any German products. He still holds these resentments to this day. I believe that he should move on, but I understand how real this resentment is and how hard it is to get over. I dont expect anyone to agree with Wright, but he was alive in an era when African Americans were injected with viruses by the US Government (Tuskegee Experiments) so in that context it is not that outlandish for him to have those views. |
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Your talking points from the dems. or is it Obama camp are pathetic. McCain opposed the Bush taxes because they did not include a spending cap i.e earmarks. McCain believes is low taxes AND less spending to avoid defecits (you know the kind your side is complaining about). McCain opposed Bush's stay the course in Iraq and went against the party to ask for Ramsfeld's resignation and the surge as a necessary change to make Iraq a success. McCain believes in global warming and stopping it (I don't but I respect his right to do so), Bush does not believe in global warming and he did not support the Kyeotto (check spelling) treaty. I can give you the rest of the list but you should look it up yourself. Obama's strategy to make McCain become Bush is not working (check the polls please). Why? Americans know there is a difference and McCain's accomplishments (including blunders) make him a different leader than Bush. In some ways better i.e. being a better commander in chief and one who listens to both sides. In some ways worse i.e. not stopping embroynic stem cells research. McCain will beat Obama so badly, it won't even be close. McCain has honor, respect and love of country. Obama has Michelle, Wright, Ayers, Farakhan and now insults for middle americans. |
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Sarah, either Obama is a muslim or he is follower of a radical Christian he cant be both, you really should get your smears straight. He actually lived in Indonesia when he was a child but never got involved in any religion till he was in his 20's. His mother was an athiest, he only met his father twice in his life. He actually went to Occidental College for 2 years and after working hard and getting good grades then was able to transfer to Columbia. After Columbia he worked at different companies and then left those high paying jobs to work as a community organizer for a very small salary. You really need to get your story straight. Either he is a secret Muslim terrorist or a radical Christian/ Black Sepratist who hated white people and wants to turn America into the Second incarnation of the USSR. Dont let facts hit you on the way to these smears. |
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You're a boring misanthrope. Your mother must be mortified |
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wants God to damn america - so we know how events will shape his presidency. Americans better pick an american president who will put this country FIRST because like you mentioned, the events that the president will face do not give him or her enough time for training on the job or to appease africans and arabs first. |
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What exactly is a community organizer?
Is there any proof that Barry's 'organizing' actually made the community objectively better?
Is a prerequisite for being a community organizer attending a church where the pastor thinks AIDS was invented by the government to kill black people?
Are those who think AIDS was invented by the government the voice of "real Americans"?
Is associating with William Ayers another example of hearing the voices of "real Americans"?
Was Barry one of those well-meaning twits who was trying to help people qualify for a sub-prime loan? You know, people who can't exactly qualify for a regular loan due to their bad credit history and low income? Did Tony Rezko benefit from any of these loans?
Just curious...
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I have lived in Europe, Asia, Africa and now I call myself a proud american. Make that very proud american. Obama lived in indonesia as a child where he was enrolled twice into different schools as a MUSLIM. Obama now says he has ALWAYS been a christian - explain please? Obama was raised by middle class white parents in HI (a very liberal state) and attended prep. school. He got into Columbia and Harvard as an affirmative action qualifier. What makes him qualified to be president? Public handouts? or living abroad as a muslim then joining a radical black liberation theology church? It can't be his accomplishments because he has none, and it definitely can't be his wife because the last we heard - she was a victim of harvard law school loans (poor baby!). If Barak is a proud muslim who lived in indonesia - then he should say it loud and proud instead of lying about being a christian all his life. His step brothers and father were muslims. He quacks like a duck and he wants us to believe he is an eagle. Sorry, americans are not stupid. Obama's foreign influence and his religion are proof that he would not put America First because he thinks of the USA as the USKKKA and his religion requires him to put Africa/black communities first. Is this complicated? |
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over educated former Dem-Lefty Peacenik, subsequently 'mugged by reality' into the Cabal of the Nefarious Neoconservatives about...ohhh...28 years ago. Degrees in History(Modern Monsters, actually..)in America and Munich(Institut fur Zeitgeshichte), which has remained my avocation and love, though a 35 year(and counting)career in mainline television business affairs and producing series, Movies and Pilots.
Now, I live in Central Florida, do VIGFM*, and sally out to the Left Coast from time to time on sleazy Hollywood projects, thus keeping my 'hand in the game' and Mrs.Neo's budgetary needs met.
That's my happy, few regrets life.
*Vast Inexpressable GOOD For Humanity*
(**And, like most T-rex Warmongering males my age, I'm in Deep Denial about the incroaching Dimentia.**) |
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All Im saying is the blogs that have defended Bush and praised him for 7 years are way out of touch with how most Americans feel. Now if the Mccain that ran for President ran this year, I would have a very difficult decision to make between him and Obama. Instead he has now sold his soul and morphed into a clone of Bush. He is advocating the same econonomic policies, war policies, foreign relation policies, environmental, and social policies as Bush. He once denounced Jerry Falwell as an agent of intolerance. Then after Falwell blamed America for 9/11 (last time I check gays and the ACLU are American) he suddenly embraced them. He chastised Bush for his tax plan in 2000 voted against it in 2001 and 2003 and now embraces it, after we see that it has done absolutly nothing to help the economy. So yea it is relevant to mention Bushs failures, because Mccain promises to continue them. |
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How is Barak qualified to fix Iraq? His former foreign policy adviser Powers, said his iraq policy could not be accomplished logistically i.e. 6-18 months troop withdrawal. Barak can't explain to americans WHAT qualifies him to be the person who "corrects the course in Iraq". His mantra days of change, hope and a lot of pie in the sky are over. Where is the beef? He is like the kid who says "I want to be like Mike". What qualifies Barak to be president and to be the guy who corrects the Iraq issue?...... |
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Please stay focused. Americans will chose a president from the following list Clinton, Barak or McCain. I realize this is difficult for you but perhaps you can focus your discussion to "what qualifies Barak for the presidency". That is the issue for this election. I do believe Bush made some mistakes but he also did some good things like getting constructionist judges on the bench. Again, Bush will not be on the ballot - so stay focused on explaining why americans should trust B. Hussein with the presidency. His resume? His religion? His record? His statements? His wife? ....aaaaa.....the man lacks any redeeming quality, let alone good qualification for president. Why are superdelegates reluctant to pledge for Hussein so that he can get the 2024 delegates required for the nomination? I suppose, like most rational americans they realize - he is unqualified, arrogant and incapable of winning in November agains McCain. |
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were just another kosroid Lib-Lefty which infest & leave their tiny fecal spoor here all the time. Now, I discover in your post to Sarah, that you're a lying liar who lies, as well. Cool.
Let's see...Outraged that the Evil Boooosh did't "prevent 9-11" and, at the same time, further outraged that he's been listening to Jihadist telephone intercepts. CoooooL! "Without a coherent strategy to win the peace.." And, Focus Now DOOFUS, the last leader who WON THE PEACE before he launched offensive operations..? Are you perhaps a product of a Gov't School eduacation? So much more, but Gotta run and take Blovie. |
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Yea hes out of touch. A man who grew up in Hawaii, the slums of Indonesia, and then worked as a community organizer is out of touch with REAL Americans. I love it when conservatives look down on certain parts of the country, and then get angry when they believe their part of the country is slighted. People from the big cities are not real Americans? I see the double standard. Conservatives can say the gays, ACLU, big city liberals, people from San Francisco, are not real Americans, but those people are the real Elitists. HOW RICH! It seems that alot of people writing on Convervative blogs are elitists. They believe that their opinions are the only ones that matter. Anyone who doesnt agree is out of touch. Raise your hand if you support George Bush. If you did YOU are out of touch with most Americans. Bush has a 28% approval rating. |
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the next president will not shape the landscape.
the world situation is fluid: peak oil, recession or depression, collapsing currency, banking solvency issues, china, iran, trade deficit, budget deficit, current account deficit, housing etc etc ...
btw, we're bankrupt. so printing fiat currency for spending will make the financial situation worse, and drive down the dollar and increase the price of oil and food.
whomever is elected better assemble a top notch team because market forces are building steam.
the next president better pray there is God, and that God is on his side and listening to his prayers.
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...and Michelle be thy name.
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I would say great minds think alike, but considering a great deal of discussion today has been about elitism, I'll decline.
Of course, great minds are not necessarily elitist. There is a wisdom and depth of understanding that many 'ordinary' Americans share that is much stronger and much more resilient than all the post-modern indoctrination found at American universities.
I think you are absolutely correct about what the election is going to turn on- RESPECT. Do the candidates RESPECT America and its people or do they think we are all dupes or capitalist co-conspirators?
McCain isn't perfect, but he is light years ahead of Barry on that score.
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As an immigrant i have been priviledged to live with and among ALL races. I am not exaggerating, i have lived with Jews, Asians, Africans, Europeans and Heartland americans. These people also had different socio-economic backgrounds from 90210 beverly hills to mid-wilshire. One thing is clear, Obama's views represent less than 5% of what americans believe about the USA and about their fellow americans. I am a statistician whose work is based on ALL public issues. Americans agree that slavery and human rights are important issues that shape our country. However, the average american from all walks of life and faith believes that this country is great and has a lot to offer to its citizens and other nations. Americans have experienced the generosity of fellow americans during good times and bad times. When Obama says that americans no longer feel proud when they travel abroad - he is not representing the average view of americans. Most americans are proud to be american, even as they acknowledge, we have areas of improvement. Obama uses past social injustices and current struggles to create a distorted image that the USA is the evil empire that has done most things if not all things wrong and only he has a clue about how to fix it. This is arrogant and prideful. Pride comes before a fall, and as americans come to terms with his arrogance and ignorance they will vote McCain. Obama is an unnecessary risk for ALL americans. God Bless America! |
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Damn, you gettin' older like me. So, like my grandpa used to say: listen to the man! I hear Texas ex-military, early dementia. Am I right? |
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booster of the broad-bottom broom pilot.
Her new bumper sticker ought to read "HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW???"
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/12/882042.as px
Bad news for a chimp like Briggsy, who has invested quite a bit of emotion in the quaint theory that inanimate objects (guns) can perform evil acts.
So, now their 2nd choice, Hillary Rod'em is trying to distinguish herself from babakazama at the same time that she is trying to extinguish babakazama.
This could be a real problem for the old hair-bag fart-women at EMILYs List or N.O.W. who have floated so much capital HRC's way...
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I see. That's perfect.
He's utterly, embarrassingly CLUELESS about his country and countrymen. He's been an active, uncomplaining member of a Liberation theology based Church with a fire spouting racist pastor. He goes to Left-Elitist SanFrancisco to gather funds, thinks he's safe and toadies to the America Loathers there. And, now, caught with his knickers down--and being kicked in the groan by Billary--he's a VICTIM??
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Sarah,
Im sure you are one of the 28% of the "heartland" who believe that Bush is doing a great job. If you want to talk about clueless lets talk about what George W Bush has done to this country. He was not able to prevent the 9/11 attacks, turned a huge surplus into a massive deficit, invaded Iraq without a coherent strategy to win the peace, promised to find Bin Laden "dead or alive" and still has not done so, guided an economy that has stagnated during his entire presidency, allowed Iran and North Korea to gain power in the international community, authorized torture, allowed for domestic spying, pardoned one of his closest aides who exposed the identity of a CIA agent, well I could go on and on. And you are worried about what OBAMA might do???? |
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Am glad you are voting Hillary and not Barak. At least she has Bill and we can count on her loving america (even when she offers misguided policies, she means well). We also do not have to worry about her mentors being close friends of arab extremists connected to Hammas. Having said that, it may be good to realize that Bush is not running for president and that McCain is not Bush. McCain is an independent minded candidate who actually puts country above party and personal politics above party pettiness. This being said - he will be the next president because most americans are in the moderate mind set. They realize Barak is hard core left and McCain is acceptable. |
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The context of the statements make it even worse.
Barry is trying to explain to the uber-urban, liberal elites in San Francisco why he isn't getting the votes of working class whites. Notice, he doesn't say this in rural Pennsylvania, he says it in San Francisco with people who undoubtedly share his world view-that those who "cling" to guns, religion, and traditional marriage are those who have been harmed psychologically by the post-industrial capitalistic state. His remarks are nothing but a Marxist reduction view of the world, and Barry shares it with people he is fairly sure share in that view of what animates the great unwashed in fly-over country.
LGF, Barry doesn't have to say the comments in a vicious way for them to be arrogant, condescending, and extraordinarily disrespectful.
Again, no one ,NO ONE who counts Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior would reduce and demean the faith of MILLIONS of working class whites as simply some sort of psychological tonic for unfavorable economic conditions.
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I would not be surprised if Obama lost. I am surprised by very little. Fools are knocked off stride by the way events transpire. I'm no fool..
But I also know that there is a disconnect between this generation of conservatism and our country. The two are not the same. It is true that conservatism is usually responsible for defending our moral heritage, but you guys have made such a muck of it that nobody respects you any more. Being the narcissists you are, you confuse antipathy towards you with antipathy towards our country.
Reeps are very good at winning elections. They are bad at governing, but very effective at manipulating emotions and distracting the electorate with flimflam and nonsense. We may be at a point where their highly efficient political technics have run against the manifest failure of their worldview. Or maybe they can eke out another one. But running Barack is worth it. It is worth risking the greater chance of losing in exchange for the opportunity to really shake things up on behalf of the people. After a generation of right-wing ascendancy, our country needs it.
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Obama actually thinks what he said was okay. That is what makes him clueless. Furthermore, he is so elitist that he does not even recognize it when he is out of touch with the heartland (an important voting block in USA). Obama is clueless and because of that he is a clear and present danger to our domestic and foreign agenda i.e. he will at best get us angry and at worst get us killed by our enemies. These moments are what make it clear he is naive and clueless. His resume just confirms it. |
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When Hugh argued that McCain would not be able to beat Obama. I posted that it would not even be close. Why? It's easy to like Obama if you do not know him, but the more americans get to know him (past his multiracial culture and smile), they know his religion, and the beliefs that have shaped him, the more they will feel comfortable voting for McCain. Say what you will about McCain - and there is a lot to say - but on his worst day of performance, he still has more honor, respect and service credits than Barak. He can be trusted to command our troops and lead our country, Obama can not be trusted. A man who has trouble understanding who he is at a personal level of culture and religion lacks the clarity to lead a nation and become leader of the free world. It's simple - who can americans trust? |
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I love how people are quick to jump on the comments without seeing the context of what was being said. Obama was defending accusations by pollsters that rural voters were racist for not voting for him:
OBAMA: So, it depends on where you are, but I think it’s fair to say that the places where we are going to have to do the most work are the places where people are most cynical about government. The people are mis-appre…they’re misunderstanding why the demographics in our, in this contest have broken out as they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to ‘white working-class don’t wanna work — don’t wanna vote for the black guy.’ That’s…there were intimations of that in an article in the Sunday New York Times today - kind of implies that it’s sort of a race thing.
Its funny to see everyone to jump on him for these comments. Has anyone seen the polls of right track wrong track? Or Bushes approval ratings? or how about congresses approval ratings? If you really dont believe that there are a whole heck of alot of people bitter and angry at government than it is you who is out of touch. Although very inarticulatly he Barak was trying to say that when government continually fails on its promises, people vote on issues that are most important in their lives, making sure they still are allowed to own guns, pray, and that their jobs aren't taken by illegal immigrants.
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how is Barak qualified to fix it? I can tell you how McCain is qualified to fix it. Now make the case for this joke of a candidate named Barak Hussein Obama. |
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I would be more than happy for this election to be about those who believe in God and those who think religion is some psychological tonic for the oppressed.
I think we now know why Barry spent 20 years at the 'black theological' church and it's not due to Jesus.
There is NO WAY a man who earnestly, genuinely believes in Jesus Christ would belitte the faith of millions of working-class Christians.
There is NO WAY a man who earnestly, genuinely believes in Jesus Christ thinks in terms of how duped people are in believing in Him.
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He is ignorant because he attended a prep school not a public school that reflected more of an average american life. He then got a race-based admittion into Columbia and Harvard law (his IQ is questionable given his public statements). Then he got propelled into the IL senate by the inner city black vote. Then he got propelled into the Senate by the misfortune of the republican contender (whose personal life was used to get him out of his race). Obama has NEVER EARNED ANYTHING IN HIS LIFE - he was a victim of circumstances that made him be raised in HI by upper middle class grandparents instead of growing up in a 3rd world country with his dad like his step siblings. So his foreign influence makes him incapable of truly appreciating and loving this country and his religion makes him dangerous to our security and it empowers our enemies. He is ignorant and hateful and this is a dangerous combination when combined with a confused man. He is confused about his religion and his race (if you believe his book and his statements about gamma and Wright). |
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Bin Laden & Zawahiri: "Iraq is the Central Front in the War With The Infidel. No Front is more important in bringing Defeat to the American Crusaders and the Arch Criminal Bush."
Democrats Except Lieberman: "ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzz ZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...ZZZZZZZZ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...
Uhhh...RETREAT!....Uhhhh....Nanny State....Copy the French Socialist Junkyard!....We agree with the progressive multiculturalist Muslims in the Caves of the Hindu Kush...We come in friendship, oh great Mullahs...We, too, believe Booosh to be Eviiiiiiiiillllll!....let's talk some more after our unilateral RETREAT!" |
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Kindergarten in L.A. was '49.
Gettin' old ain't fer sissies! |
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What has Obama accomplished? He is the most unqualified, inexperienced, foreign-influenced person to ever ran for president. He is also arrogant and his religion stinks as much as his pastor/mentor Dr. Wright. FYI - did he ever give you a copy of his letter from the govt. inviting him to a specified location to get injected with the AIDS virus? If not, then Obama should give another big speech about "pastors lying in the pulpit and demonizing america". Until Hussein does that, he can just crawl back to the inner city where his gutter religion and associates will be waiting with food paid for by tax payers. The arrogance of this man!!!! |
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Barry's comments about guns reveal a great deal.
Barry has said IN THIS CAMPAIGN he respects the Second Amendment. His San Francisco speech tell us what he REALLY thinks about gun ownership. Barry also stated, in a 1996 questionnaire, he said he wanted to ban the sale and manufacture of handguns.
When caught, Barry told us 'hey, I didn't fill out the questionnaire; some campaign worker of mine did'. Later we found out he was LYING.
LYING.
The questionnaire was in his OWN handwriting.
Think about it, folks. This wasn't some typical politicians exaggeration about his accomplishments. This was a bald face lie. When caught, he contrived the whole story up out of thin air about some rogue aide.
What else is he lying about?
This guy is going to be amazingly easy to beat. McCain is going to win in parts of the country that haven't voted for a Republican since 1988.
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but - get this one please - Obama's list of non-accomplishment, blunders as an IL senator and of course his close associates IS WORSE. McCain may be the oldest man who ever ran for president, Obama is the most inexperienced, naive, unaccomplished, foreign-influenced man who ever ran for president. Now tell me, who should americans pick?? IT'S A NO BRAINER. |
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al aqaeda is in Iraq or that they were there long before we invaded just like they were in the USA before 9/11 and in Sudan before 9/11. He is an inner city civil rights attorney who has used past social injustices to incite anger and hatred toward whites and to insult americans whose taxes he wants to use to pay for the "poor" disadvantaged youth in inner city. The brother better try getting another job because he aint getting this one - hollar! |
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a lot in the private and public sector WITHOUT acting like a victim. He came from humble beginnings and built a fortune. Even if you hate him for it, you can at least admit he is well accomplished. Obama's accomplishment is - he paid off his student loans from Harvard. And he has the hutzpa to insult hard working americans, their beliefs, their values and their voting agenda?????? THERE WILL NEVER BE A BARAK HUSSEIN PRESIDENCY - you can count on it! Cheney will always be a two term VP. |
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Now we're finding it all out. I'm a '49er; how 'bout you, li'l (old) dude? |
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There he is with that sure & incisive grasp of Mid East history again.
Never any mention of Bin laden & Zawahiri's repeated statements that Iraq is the Central Front in the War With the Infidel. They pray multiple times daily that Bazama will win the hated American election. They know that very shortly thereafter The Arab Street will erupt with crazed celebrations of the triumph over the weak cowardly forces of the Retreating Americans.
Denial is more than a River in Egypt. |
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How does the left react when Obama is caught peddling his Marxist-reductionist view of America, in which every one who DISAGREES with him has either been conned or is a capitalist co-conspirator? They make excuses for him. Barry is just telling it the way it is, he is just pointing out how we have all failed, he is just giving us our much needed critique. Perfect; please keep it up. Dig yourselves deeper into the pit of condescension, and please, PLEASE, keep explaining to us your world view. The country needs to understand exactly what Obama and his fellow liberal elistist think of us.
Perhaps Obama needs a history lesson. Evidently,both of his Ivy League degrees have failed him.
Barry, long before there was even a hint of the Industrial Age and the Capitalistic Cancer than accompanied it (much less angst over a post-Industrial Age), there were people living in Pennsylvania. Many of these people were concerned about guns-thus the second amendment-and many of these people were concerned about God.
Now I know liberals think concern about concern for God and having the right to bear arms is some sort of right wing plot thought up by Lee Atwater and Karl Rove in order to distract the public from the gutting of the American economy over the past 25 years. But there is this little document called the U.S. Constitution which undermines those claims.
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Gracias.
'Fraid college and grad school were before you were born, but your generosity of spirit is noted and duly appreciated. |
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i'm not surprised at all by what he said. his views on said topic are widespread on the left. all you have to do is listen and observe and you will know the man.
mea culpa: i ignored w's big government leanings during the 2000 campaign, although i would have voted for him versus mr internet even knowing the real (government spending) w.
whatever obama is he will become moreso if elected.
yet he will have no honeymoon, and he will govern with support of about 1/3 of the country.
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Reagan submitted nothing but balanced budgets to a Democratic Congress that declared those budgets dead on arrival. I can still remember Reagan breaking his finger when he first picked up the old budget and then dropped the much, much larger "simplified" new budget. He was demonstrating that until voters start electing more conservative Republicans to help out, that was the best they could do. No Bush has ever submitted a balanced budget and as we all know, Clinton actually balanced the budget. You can form your own conclusions but those are the facts. It is not about Democrats vs Republicans but conservatives vs the United Establishment Party. |
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You guys must be roommates at Yale. All is forgiven. |
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