Congress voting to take guns away? I could be wrong but for this to happen there has to be constitutional amendment, congress just can't simply vote on it. Once congress votes, it eventually goes to the states.
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Does he think he is running for the office of Constitutional Monarch?
How did this guy get out of Law School?
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Hugh hits the nail on the head:
"It was classic Obama: He said next to nothing at great length but tried very hard to make it sound deeply thoughtful when it was in fact nonsense."
Peter Sellers' character in Being There comes to mind, the difference being Obama's intent vs. Chance Gardner's retarded innocence. Both spout utter nonsense regarded by great numbers of fools as deep political wisdom. |
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Hugh hits the nail on the head:
"It was classic Obama: He said next to nothing at great length but tried very hard to make it sound deeply thoughtful when it was in fact nonsense."
Peter Sellers' character in Being There comes to mind, the difference being Obama's intent vs. Chance Gardner's retarded innocence. Both spout utter nonsense regarded by great numbers of fools as deep political wisdom. |
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If your only source of knowledge was what some guy in the back room put on your teleprompter you would ramble to. Hussein O and the democrats lack of knowledge of U.S. laws, and plain stupidity is scary. |
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Those "Bitter" folk wont catch on.
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By the way Mrs. J says she is a bit of a mavrick, but also a bulldog wearing lipstick.
But as truth in PR demands I must confess she is quite a looker. |
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Maybe he should run for mayor before he runs for President. Or maybe even run for governor. All he's done in the Senate is campaign for president.
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This is a guy who has spent his time since Harvard Law School yammering and politicking. Hence the yammering, politicking quality of his thought and unprompted oratory. That's what and who he is.
The more this guy talks, the emptier his suit gets.
He's got huge talent inspiring stadiums-full of the like-minded and the desperate (his true calling: motivational speaker). And I think he's very effective demagoguing unsophisticated audiences with classically brain-dead liberal handout promises.
Like today in Scranton: "See, in my plan, 95% get a tax cut. 95%!" He knows full well that the poor grinning saps have no idea that jacking up taxes on the other "5%" -- a groups sometimes referred to as "employers of 95% of the population" -- is likely to do to their economic prospects. He knows better than to remind anyone of the halcyon days of the Carter administration -- he'll come up with some other excuse for their plight when it benights them, and consider himself a master of the game when he does it.
And of course everybody, regardless of IQ or skill set, is going to college free -- to what end, who knows -- presumably more of our welders, drivers, and stock room clerks will have learned that onomatopeia, behaviorism, and Maxwell's equations are not their cup of tea.)
But that -- speechcraft, yammering and politicking -- is all there is to him. And yeah, most words are, in fact, "just words." He needs for the next 60 days to go by as quickly as possible. |
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with the left, watch Real Time this week. After Jeffrey Toobin and Bill Maher go over every Palin lie in misleading false detail as they were fact, Bill and his guests attempt to lynch Michael Steele for having the audacity to defend McCain-Palin.
Seriously, it was not close to funny. It was sick in its relentlessness. |
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as the parent of a child with intellectual disabilities -- like Sarah Palin -- I recommend you stop using the offensive "R" word and sling some other words for whatever name-callling you want but please remember that using this word hurts those who cannot often defend themselves from the bullies who want to victimize them .... why do you want to perpetrate this hurtful word?
Just remember that the R word is like the N word, the K word, the C word, and other racial or sexual epithets. |
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Not only was the SC decision less definitive than HH claims, but BHO is philosophically right that inner-city gun ownership is a different equation than rural Americana gun ownership.
Hugh is just being a rabble rouser here. He could give a whit about gun ownership, except to the extent it causes working Americans to vote against their own interests and the interests of their country--i.e. vote for the Reeps. Barack is no threat to gun owners. Nor are the Reeps going to do anything in particular for gun-owners. Gun owners have just been played as tools by the likes of Hugh--and for many cycles now. It is an old song and dance, and in the end, it only benefits the red state elites, who continue to export our jobs, shift the tax burden to middle-class, rape our environment, and grind away at working families for their own enrichment. |
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...that is Barack Obama is not very deep.
The key to beating him is to look at his associations and his record.
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PatLib writes: "Not only was the SC decision less definitive than HH claims, but BHO is philosophically right that inner-city gun ownership is a different equation than rural Americana gun ownership."
After I stopped laughing at the thought of PL "locking horns" with Hugh on a constitutional law issue, I realized there is real promise for a real debate on this. Tell me, PL, what is your analysis of the SCOTUS decision on gun rights? In what way was it less definitive than Hugh claims? And for the capper: while gun ownership in the inner-city may be "philosophically" different than in 'rural America', how would it be constitutionally different?
Please, don't disappoint. Normally you're just in here yammering; this is a real opportunity to discuss. |
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Like your post. You might also add that his math is not very good either. For example, he is paying for a health care plan by bringing the troops home from Iraq. But now he says he wants to send these troops to Afghanistan. Either the health plan is dead or he plans on sending the troops to Afghanistan with no funding.
Then he wants to send out a $1000 tax incentive to 130 million citizens (the number the IRS stated went out on the previous incentive). He is paying for this with a windfall profits tax on oil companies. The total income of all the major oil companies is somwhere around $60 billion. Hmmm. I think he is still about $70 billion short.
And then there is the no drilling platform, but he wants to use natural gas. I'm not sure what kind of gas he is talking about but I think natural gas comes from drilling. |
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For reminding people to use polite language. We don't need to be crass to make our points.
Now, my point is, it sounds as if Obama would like to take away citizens' guns, but feels that the law is stopping him. Hmm...I'd like to see what would happen if he tried to take my Dad's gun, or Sarah Palin's gun. Instead of taking guns out of the hands of innocent people who want to protect themselves and/or hunt, why don't we spend some time and money getting rid of the thugs? |
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It seems to me that he stint as a "Constitutional Law Professor" was part time. Oh and Pat Lib. Are you really that dumb to think that Red Staters and Republicans have been shipping jobs overseas for the last 40 years? Try government overregulation, and unionization. I am a Union member, and Unions have priced American workers out of the world market. |
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campaigns constant sexist attacks on women...
If a man can't handle babysitting 5 kids while his wife is doing VP stuff, how can a man be expected to be President?
Or don't the Defeatocrats actually think through these arguments? (rhetorical question... obviously they don't think past what fits on a bumper-sticker) |
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On the one hand, Obama is telling his lefty compatriots who want to strip all Americans of their gun rights that, "well, you know, we Dems have to say things like 'we agree that the Supreme Court has the final word' if we want to have a snowball's chance in hell of winning elections, but you know what I REALLY think, doncha?" ...
And on the other hand, he's telling the bitter God-and-gun-clingers that "even if you don't trust me to keep my mitts off your Glocks and your Remingtons, you know as well as I do that I don't have the balls to actually succeed in taking away your redneck icons".
Now that's a winning message and a profile in courage!
You know what they say is the difference between Obambi and O-Mamma?
Obambi shoots his mouth off, and O-Mama shoots moose!
O-Mama!
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The Heller decision was not as nearly clear-cut as people are generally led to believe. The problem with the decision was that while acknowledging an individual right, it gave room for government infringement by saying the right could be regulated like any other right under the Constitution. It is a classic case of one person saying something and another interpreting it in a way not intended. I think Scalia had in mind that it is like voting, subject to infringement if you commit a crime, while Kennedy thought it was like political speech, subject to infringement if Congress thought it should be.
Subsequent action by DC shows this to be true. When Heller applied for a permit after the case was decided in his favor, DC turned him down again, giving the vapid excuse that his pistol (a semiautomatic) was a - no joke - "machine gun" because it could accept a magazine that held more than seven cartridges.
A person cannot claim to have a right if it can be infringed by a legislative body at will. This is more properly called a privilege.
As to the question of how much infringement is Constitutionally valid, I fall in the almost-absolutist camp. I believe that unless you use your weapon to murder someone, you should be allowed to own it, and you shouldn't have to go to the government to ask permission like you do now. |
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The Heller decision was not as nearly clear-cut as people are generally led to believe. The problem with the decision was that while acknowledging an individual right, it gave room for government infringement by saying the right could be regulated like any other right under the Constitution. It is a classic case of one person saying something and another interpreting it in a way not intended. I think Scalia had in mind that it is like voting, subject to infringement if you commit a crime, while Kennedy thought it was like political speech, subject to infringement if Congress thought it should be.
Subsequent action by DC shows this to be true. When Heller applied for a permit after the case was decided in his favor, DC turned him down again, giving the vapid excuse that his pistol (a semiautomatic) was a - no joke - "machine gun" because it could accept a magazine that held more than seven cartridges.
A person cannot claim to have a right if it can be infringed by a legislative body at will. This is more properly called a privilege.
As to the question of how much infringement is Constitutionally valid, I fall in the almost-absolutist camp. I believe that unless you use your weapon to murder someone, you should be allowed to own it, and you shouldn't have to go to the government to ask permission like you do now. |
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Teleprompter Challenged Obama thin credentials reveal him to be like the Wizard of Oz...."pay no attention to that person behind the curtain"....BO has been exposed for the Rookie that he is not by Dorothy and Toto from Kansas but by an impressive Sarah Palin from Alaska whose dog can lead a Dog Sled team led by her. Palin had to ad lib when her teleprompter went down and did not turn into a Stuttering Porky the Pig when his went down. Palin took down a corrupt Governor Markowski Political Machine without the help of the MSM while BO's career was propel ed by the Corrupt Cook County Political machine with help from slum lord Tony Resko and Underground Weather Bombing terrorist William Ayers.
Word to Democrats and BO you should have let Hilary get her D&C crown and forced BO to go back to basics starting at the PTA(Presidential Training Association) as it worked for Lady Sarah and turned her into a feisty and capable GO-vernor from the North who looks like she'd give not only top of the ticket BO a run for his money in a mano to mano but Hillary too...!~) |
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Teleprompter Challenged Obama thin credentials reveal him to be like the Wizard of Oz...."pay no attention to that person behind the curtain"....BO has been exposed for the Rookie that he is not by Dorothy and Toto from Kansas but by an impressive Sarah Palin from Alaska whose dog can lead a Dog Sled team led by her. Palin had to ad lib when her teleprompter went down and did not turn into a Stuttering Porky the Pig when his went down. Palin took down a corrupt Governor Markowski Political Machine without the help of the MSM while BO's career was propel ed by the Corrupt Cook County Political machine with help from slum lord Tony Resko and Underground Weather Bombing terrorist William Ayers.
Word to Democrats you should have let Hillary get her D&C crown(although what is her real experience for that matter--Bubba) and forced BO to go back to basics starting at the PTA(Presidential Training Association) as it worked for Lady Sarah and turned her into a feisty and capable GO-venor from the North who looks like she'd give not only give the BO a run for his money in a mano to mano but Hillary too...!~) |
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upholds Roe and revisits Heller.
Which is one of many reasons why the nation needs Barack Obama. |
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And smart, too! I doubt many people know just how corrupt Chicago politicians are. Gov. Palin is the opposite. The absolute opposite--she's in it for the right reasons. McCain's selection of her for his VP was brilliant! Conservatives across the nation are dancing and singing the Palin song. Don't worry, McCain/Palin is a winning ticket! |
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...you're a day late and dollar short; Heller got his carry permit. |
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are you and obama saying that inner city citizens do not have the right to defend themselves and their families ? police do not stop crime per se they arrest crimnals after they commit crimes , they are not body gaurds they are investigators . the second ammendment is not about hunting ,it is an affirmation of the fundamental human right of people to defend themselves and their property from predatory crimnals or goverment . with out this basic human right all others are meaningless.our forefathers took arms against the british to defend their homes and families against a predatory goverment who was unresponsive to all other requests as a result we have a nation that while not perfect is better than any where else . |
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Encouragement of inner city gun ownership by law abiding *citizens* is key. More communities organized, trained and armed to defend themselves the better.
Criminals do NOT follow the law, they will always possess guns - legally or illegally. Don't stop the good Americans from the right to defend themselves.
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to bear arms, before I was for it. |
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When you are STILL playing defense on guns in Sept, well..
Wait, why is he in PA?
Shouldn't he be in GA?
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McCain should play Obama saying that at every stop in OH, PA, MI, WI, MN, etc.. and follow it up with..
"My Friends, join me in making sure he never gets the votes. Put McCain - Palin in the White House and put pro second amendment people in the House and Senate"
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Bammy's Girl-Bud, demonstrating Bombmaking & Pistol Packing for the riled-up Democrat Femodawgs! LUV it!
Oh, we're going to be "seeing" alot of Billy Ayers & his Delicate Bernardine from Repub 527s for the next 2-months. Can't wait. :-) Ya know, Kids, those(Ahheeemmm!!)"Mainstreamers" from Chicago?n (-:
Yep. Cannot Freakin' Wait. |
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My pencil misspelled a word.... I am going to reguest we outlaw them.
It's not the gun it's the people. I don't hear Obama talking about personal responsiblity. |
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SAR-RAH!! SAR=RAH!!! At last, I can now vote for McCain without holding my nose!! |
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That's a more important question. |
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"I don’t have the votes in Congress"
maybe on guns,
But he'll have the votes on taxes, energy exploration, investment capital, defense spending, trade agreements, JUDICIAL APPOINTMENTS....federal pre-k education,
and don't forget the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE. |
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-has a full court press on Sarah Palin and a news embargo on anything to tweak Obama.
However, wto Chicago news pitbulls John Kass and Tim Novak are on the hunt!
Expect Obama to get a serious tune-up from O'Reilly this week - probably Tuesday.
Tomorrow night John Murtagh of NYC whose home was fire-bombed by the Weathermen in the 1970's is Hannity's guest on his Sunday Show!
I would love to see All Ayers All the Time at least for a couple of days.
He and his odious Old Lady are two insulated creeps that need the full light of inquiry.
Chicago's Media is too tied to their Money - Medill School of Journalism;Northwestern Law, Woods Fund, & etc.
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Before the SC decision in Heller came out Hussein was quoted as saying he supported the DC law and wanted the Circuit Court opinion in Heller to be overturned. It wasn't until AFTER the decision came out that he said he had "always" said that he supported the Second Amendment. Hussein is just another sleazy politician who will say anything, even if it contradicts his previous statements, in order to get elected. Well, we know better and he will NOT get elected.
Palin/Jindal '12. |
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Briggsy said, "SCOTUS with Obama appointments
upholds Roe and revisits Heller. Which is one of many reasons why the nation needs Barack Obama."
Wow, I couldn't think of a better reason to vote for McCain... certainly against Obama. The nation needs BO to lose to make sure that Heller isn't overturned. It actually addresses a constitutional right. On the other hand, all Roe addresses is an "invented from whole cloth" right to something that is properly in the political realm to decide. Overturning Roe would be a great victory for democracy.
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Love the last sentence. He always rambles and says nothing and then says "let me say it again". |
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has become a "Legend In His Own Mind." The trouble is the far LeftLoonManiacs support and bolster this Legend. If he could or thought it possible the Second Amendment would be gone. This man and his wife are dangerous beyond words. |
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outa my cold dead hands you can have my shotgun "Senator" Obama. The title "President" Obama is becoming a receding fear. |
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...and so are the liberals trying so desperately to carry his water for him.
He really needs some more experience.....I recommend he starts with the PTA. |
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What's going on in Columbus....!?! |
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We've heard you singing that one-note song, over and over and over. We know what you're against.
It's September, and you're down to two choices.
Care to tell us what you're for? |
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There is a Thomas Jefferson quote that explains the reason for the 2nd Amendment.
"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
'Nuff said. |
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I guess I'm going to go to the polls and vote "against Obama" since that's all you seem to ever write about.
Jk. I'm voting for Obama. But I've never seen a conservative so not proud of his own party. You make me really depressed.
http://progressivejew.blogspot.com/ |
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You are embarrassing yourself posting other people's stupid talking points.
Come back when (or IF) you ever have an original thought. |
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Think about this: your messiah is proclaiming himself to be a big Christian, but when he was younger, he was know as Barry Soetoro. He has since changed his name.
If he is such a big Christian, why didn't he change the Hussein part....? |
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Wish I could return the sentiment.
Looking forward to your first intelligent post.... |
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Has Obama EVER fired a gun?
He never served in the Military.
He's not a hunter.
He's not an NRA member.
He's consistently stood on the side of gun bans and restricting the 2nd amendment.
The ONLY thing Obama knows how to "shoot off" is his mouth. |
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There are more than two choices on my ballot. I don't live in the Peoples Republic of One Party Rule, like CA.
McCain importing voters for the socialists will change that, I'm sure. |
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You getting paid by the word or words per line?
Same song, 37th verse..get something new to bloviate about.
You realize that when you refer to Sarah's parenting skills you are attacking more mothers than you know, be they working moms or moms working at home..there are a lot of us bitter
church going, Bible believing, gun totin' clingers who have faced the same challenges as
the Palin's. Coming from someone defending the
abortion industry's best friend, it's hilarious.
Your pompous ninnyhammer refuses to save born alive babies, and supports partial birth abortion.
Translation: Obama is a money grubbing baby torturer and executioner. |
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The term "assault weapon" is a media creation. They are ignorant on the subject, and if you repeat the term, you are just as ignorant.
You never read that a gunman used an AR-15 (which gun owners would understand), they use the term "military style assualt weapon."
Ignorance.... Just because it looks similiar to a military weapon doesn't mean it is.... |
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“He said next to nothing at great length but tried very hard to make it sound deeply thoughtful when it was in fact nonsense.” -HH
Once again, in his singular, incontestable style Mr. Hewitt reveals the difference between a true Zeitmeister like himself and a third-rate rhetorician like the senator from Illinois.
As Hugh wrote in his indispensable “Conflation 2006: A Blogger’s Field Guide to Amassing Rush-like Power and Wealth”: “Never go to great lengths to make nonsense sound deeply thoughtful. Brevity is not simply the soul of wit, it is THE KEY for effective thought control. Never resort to reason when you can simply DECLARE.”
Still we can’t help but wish Chancellor Hewitt could sometimes be more specific in showing how ordinary netizens like us better dispute Obama’s deceptive gun policy.
After all, to the unwary, talk of “strong background checks to keep guns out of the hands of criminals… (and) …the mentally disabled” DOES seem to have a common sense ring to it. Likewise, until one drills down a bit, the inherent nonsense of “mechanisms to trace guns that are used in crimes back to the gun dealers that sold them” isn’t that obvious.
Neither, btw, does it help the cause when turncoats like that Antonin Scalia note that “nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”*
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And were that all militias were as well-regulated as the faithful legions of Hugh’s Hallerbackers!
* http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf (page 54)
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There is nothing so useless as a liberal Democrat. They would take away our basic rights in the name of civil liberty. Utterly ridiculous.
You can pull needles out of haystacks, but the majority opinion in Heller recognized an individual RIGHT to keep and bear arms. The intent of the founding fathers has been upheld.
So kindly take your revisionism and stick it where the sun don't shine.... |
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My hubby kgk is from Pa. and NJ. He has also taught in Fla. and now Ca. Now, gun rights in the first 3 states are important for hunters. W. Pa. , South Jersey, and all of Fla. have varied seasons for hunters. Also, there are many gun collectors who have a hobby. We all know this. kgk is a life member of the NRA and has never shot a gun. But, the 2nd Amend. is so important that we also know that the NRA in hunter states will be running this silly, absurd comment ,I don't have the votes'. And that is crucial. The Dems want that 60 votes in the Senate. Voters must not give it to them. McCain might lose but the Congressional races are very, very important too. Can you imagine if the Messiah gets to appoint jurists to SCOTUS? Even the Heller case will be over turned. And we haven't even come to Prop. 8 in Ca. on marriage. Oh Nelly. |
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got it right! They knew BHO was lying to them, doing his verbal dance. 'Well, I won't take YOUR guns away(well not just yet, anyway..), just those of certain areas of Philadelphia(all those precincts who plan to vote for me overwhelmingly...honest, I'll take their guns away!).'
All people like Mr Hewitt is continue to report the unvarnished truth about BHO and his cronies, comparing his present words to his words and actions of the recent past.
And we, friends, need to keep telling our friends and neighbors about just how dangerous these people are! |
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Hunting animals from helicopters. Probably a little boring, shooting fish in a barrel, etc. But it ain't the gun that matters, it's the killing. Wheeee |
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To Barack Obama as was said to Xerxes a long time ago:
Molon Labe! |
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“Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress,’’
Obama made himself perfectly clear:
"I want to take them away"
Working on the second half of the sentence will be his agenda for the next four years.
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Feinstein's disasterous Automatic Weapons Ban only passed because of its sunset provision. She could not get enough votes without it. Obama will try because he believes the liberals' definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again but expect a different result.
Molon Labe! |
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Clearly the ONE did not learn a thing about Con Law while at Harvard. If he is going to be so cavalier about the second amendment, what other rights are at risk (surely freedom of speech by conservatives is literally and figuratively in their cross-hairs). As an individual right, the government specifically does not have an interest in controlling guns because those rights accrue to individuals to protect AGAINST tyrannical government. Perhaps if the liberals did not concentrate poverty in inner cities and create a dependency class (and claim that they are actually doing something for America in the process), they would not have to worry about the downstream impacts of criminal activity in poverty-stricken neighborhoods. In the last 30 years has anyone ever heard a liberal speak to the concept of individual, rather than collective, responsibility as a solution to any problem? |
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THE FLIM FLAM OBAMAMAN-BETTER KNOWN AS-BARACK HUSSEIN SOETORO OBAMA - is giving ever so subtle hints on what he really thinks. He is hiding what he really believes and is telling us, again, what we want to hear. That is the Flim Flam Obamaman! Depending on the crowd he is talking too, he changes his words to let them think he is with them and believes like they do.
He must have already been thinking about how he can change the 2nd amendment because he said "Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress." That says it all, America. Remember when he waffled on the state of Jerusalem - one thing before the Jews and another to the Palistinians!
The Democratic party is playing with fire by choosing this man (notice I did not say electing) - if he ever, ever gets anywhere near the White House, you will see how dangerous he will be - but then it will be too late! The fire will already have been ignited and we will see Democracy and our freedoms go down in flames before we even know what happened!
I am voting for the only viable team - President Elect McCain and Vice President Elect Palin. Together they are the "Maverick" and the "Reformer". They will bring honor, integrity and commitment to the office of the Presidency. They put "country first" and will bring the change and reform we all want!
DEFINITION OF "FLIM FLAM": DECEPTION, FRAUD, DOUBLE DEALING.
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Tell us, Hazel, (1) what weapons you consider "assault weapons" (even a couple of examples will do, I'm sure), and (2) why you believe those that you do consider "assault weapons" to be unsuitable for citizens to own or bear -- what is the difference between those particular weapons, and others that you would let us have, or that you at least would not term "assault weapons."
And by the way, hammerhead, if you are going to spread bogus "quotes," -- that is, if you are going to LIE -- be at least somewhat artful about it. That the Palin quote is made up is transparently obvious from the number (40) -- some nutlefty's fantastical idea of a caribou hunt. They probably were picturing tales of buffalo slaughter on the Great Plains that they saw in Dances with Wolves or something. Plus no hunter would say they "slaughtered" prey. They'd say they shot it or took it. If you are going to lie, do it better: these aren't effective at anything other than making you look like a fool. |
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An excellent time for Bammy to expose himself more for his craven debts to the Soros-Nutter Left. He can't scare the little scuds with outright, unabashed American Patriotism. Nor would he have a clue as to how to do that.
NICE opportunity for John & Sarah to excel.
Strategery of the Misunderestimated. |
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Aside from Obama's unequivocal voting record, we have his 26 June statement on the Heller decision. In it, after the rhetorical flourish in favor of hunters' and sportsmen's right to keep and bear arms, he lets us know exactly where he stands when he touts the ability of local communities to make their own common sense gun regulations. I call that the death of the 2nd amendment by a thousand cuts. |
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"Even if I want to take them away, I don’t have the votes in Congress."
Technically, he's right. As a senator, Obama has exactly one vote.
To Matt Maynard: At this point DC's rejection of Heller application for a gun permit is hardly evidence that the Heller decision in not definitive. After all, it is rather easy to flout supreme court decisions, at least in the short run. As Heller II works it way through the courts we shall find out.
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Mule,
I'm sure Hazel is concerned about any rifle with a bayonet lug (one of the definitional items from the assault weapon ban). Can't have those "drive by" bayonet-ings, ya know? |
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Define "assault weapon" and while you furiously attempt to educate yourself on the subject, you could also explain why you are so concerned about the beautiful caribou, but so adamant about supporting the butchering of innocent babies.
Your vile attacks on Sarah display both the hypocricy and the envy of women like you, You finally get to see a woman who will in all probability be the first female POTUS some day and you attack her simply because she is a republican...Women like you couldn't carry her briefcase just as bambi isn't fit to carry McCAIN's seabag....change is acomin and you libs better get used to it, we are taking our country back. |
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Okay, feel free to call it marginally decisive. It still hasn't been incorporated as binding on the states under the 14th, and there's still plenty of room for flexible judges to bend it to their whim instead of bending the law to the amendment.
As for Heller getting his permit, it doesn't matter. He wasn't able to get the permit for the weapon of his choice. The District doesn't need a "machinegun ban" because the federal one is stronger than anything they could come up with. Unless, of course, their intent was to ban weapons that did not fall under the federal definition, which is quite flexible already, as David Olofson will tell you. You can't claim that DC is acting in good faith if they still have the status quo ante but will allow revolvers.
Did you read Breyer's dissent? "In essence, the majority determines what regulations are permissible by looking to see what existing regulations permit. There is no basis for believing that the Framers intended such circular reasoning." (DC vs. Heller, at 42) |
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"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?" (Patrick Henry, 3 J. Elliot, Debates in the Several State Conventions 45, 2d ed. Philadelphia, 1836)
"And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms....The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants" (Thomas Jefferson in a letter to William S. Smith in 1787. Taken from Jefferson, On Democracy 20, S. Padover ed., 1939)
"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- (Thomas Jefferson)
"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence ... From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that is good" (George Washington)
The words of our founding fathers speak for the intent behind the second amendment. |
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"BHO is philosophically right that inner-city gun ownership is a different equation than rural Americana gun ownership. "
So if you live in a city, you have different rights than if you live in the country? I wonder what Obama would say if the SC had gone the other way? Obama has always said, or he will say it again [place whatever you like here}. |
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Matt Maynard: +1, sir.
Hazel: Guns are for coercing and killing people. The 2nd Amendment is designed to prevent the Federal Government from significantly limiting my ability to coerce and kill those who would otherwise coerce or kill me.
The enhanced ability to make meese into moose burgers is just a bonus. |
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Spot on!
Hazel is probably a Hoplophobe.
Molon Labe! |
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Maybe after McCain is done filling his Cabinet with DemoRats he will appoint DemoRats to SCOTUS.
Maybe even B.O.??!!
Then B.O. will have a decisive vote to do away with the Second Amendment.
Heck, why not just get rid of the whole pesky Constitution thingy-dingy?
Seig Heil DemoPublicanCFR Uber-Furhers!
Oops, guess I should learn spanish for that phrase, with unlimited amnesty coming. |
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Looking at Obama's bio and certainly his background and being involved in questionable affiliation with terrorists it is my opinion he is definitely a communist, a Muslim and an American hater.
I firmly believe if he ever gets to be President, he will immediately try to overthrow the court by whatever means he can regarding the Second Amendment. History indicates the communists first thing is to disarm the public thus taking away their way of protecting them from a vial government.
If this should happen in America, there will be untold "new criminals" surfacing, me included.
I will NEVER give up my right to own a weapon either for hunting or self protection. I will go down fighting before that. I leaned a lot when I was in the military and regardless how long ago that was one never forgets their training.
The only thing I can say is they had better be very very careful if they try that in this country.
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I'm sorry you are suffering from diminished capacity. It appears your IQ rivals that of a pencil eraser and
appears you probably "flunked Sandbox"
in your educational endeavor.
I would highly recommend you "run", "don't walk" to a medical facility for
therapy. I just hope it isn't too late
for you. You definitely have a mental
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Hazel. Are you a good looking bombshell of a babe?
Just curious! |
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Tell us what you think an "assault weapon" is . . . only fair since you presume to pontificate on the subject . . . or do you have no talking points to parrot? |
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...second amendment theory is ... that an individual (singular) has the right to bear arms but, when you have individuals (plural) now that is a different adaptation of the constitutional writ. So one person can have a gun but, more than one person can constitute a problematic application of the individual right. Makes perfect sense...right?
So am I for gun control or ain't I? Even I can't tell. |
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I Obama is a theory. A detached and shifting theory of socialist omni-control over all people.
His reference to "his" view is another classic slip up indicating how arrogant and self-centered he is.
The other recent classic slip (yesterday) is he mentioning his "Muslim faith" instead of his "Christian faith". I wonder which is correct?
Don't doubt for a moment...if he wins (with a dem house and senate) guns rights will be hammered.
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No one needs them. The 2nd Amendment is a antiquated notion anyway. |
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If you don't like the 2nd Amendment than get it repealed. Until then it is the law of the land. Until then I will own and carry firearms to protect myself and my family from harm by criminals and infringement of my rights by the government. BTW, the Supreme Court disagrees with you. |
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you are an imbecile.
The antis know they cannot take away our guns but they are now fixated on outlawing the ammunition that makes them useful. All gun owners and believers of the Constitution must be ever vigilant in regards to all aspects of gun ownership. The antis by no means have given up. |
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Well, if you are correct then it should be simple matter to first draft an amendment to the Constitution get it passed by Congress then ratified by two thirds of the current states which is 33 of the states. If the amendment is antiquated and should be removed so that firearm seizures can begin then you shouldn't have a problem obeying the law of the land. Now if you're thinking that only firearms owners have to obey the law of the land wellll....you might want to be a bit wary of trying to act on such a supposition as you're likely to find your self in court before a judge trying to convince a jury of your peers that laws don't apply to people who don't own guns. |
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Just for your information, Rep. Major Owens has introduced an amendment to repeal the Second Amendment at the beginning of every session of Congress and it has never gone anywhere. Even if that ever does get passed, or if Hussein should, God forbid, be elected and pack the courts with anti-gun jurists who rule against gun rights, I will not give up my guns. If that means I become a criminal, so be it. My guns will be encased in PVC pipe with dessicant packs to guard against rust and buried where only I will know how to find them. I will only keep out those guns I need to protect my family since I don't trust Hussein, or anyone else, to do that. |
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....the last time the government tried to take some guns from some citizens...
....something to do with the Branch Davidians as I recall.
If I remember correctly, I don't think it went well..... |
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I don’t have the votes in Congress."
This has been another nuanced response, brought to you by Barack "you can't pin me down on any important issue" Obama. |
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I've heard the ammunition theory and it centers on CA senators. .223 ammo has had some availability problems this year. Some are calling it "military re-arming", but I'm wondering about "tests" being conducted. Either way, I suggest stocking up. |
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It is more than theory.
http://www.nrapublications.org/oj/nobullets.html
I strongly urge all gun owners to stock up on ammo. |
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accelerated once I knew Bush spent his "political capital" to the point he became badly indebt not to mention the national financial debt. The writing was on the wall. I'm sure the blame can be debated for years. However, I have basically the "items" I wanted for my gun safe. For those who want "items" requiring a federal stamp, it may be too late. Hopefully, the CA congresswomen will be voted out before they cause irreversable damage. Afterall, they are pretty long-in-the-tooth now. Perhaps Palin can help us all before the democrats retire the constitution to a museum. |
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If you think Feinstein and Boxer are terrible (and they surely are that), you should see the CA State Senate and Assembly.
They are even worse.... It's a tough road to hoe in CA friend.... |
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