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Tuesday, July 29, 2008
Stopping the Bob Dole Meme
Posted by: Matt Lewis at 11:56 AM
Last night on Hannity, Mike Huckabee compared McCain to Bob Dole ... 

This, of course, is a "no no."  Aside from theage and "war hero" similarities, the problem is that it is universally believed that Dole ran a horrible campaign.  Once that label is applied to your campaign, it fuels talk about a campaign "running out of gas" or "falling apart."  These stories are hard to shake, and there is a real danger that the media will attribute this meme to McCain, which would be very damaging.

Though I've been a proponent of making Obama pick first, one argument for McCain to pick a "veep" sooner rather is that it would serve to essentially "feed the beast" a bit with some exciting news to talk about -- and prevent the media from hopping on this negative narrative. 

As Chuck Todd pointed out on MSNBC a week, or so, ago, there is one important difference between 2008 and 1996.  In '96, the RNC sensed Dole couldn't win, but the GOP brand was alive and well in senate and house races.  As such, the donors and the RNC put their money into senate races.  This time around, the opposite is true.  McCain will benefit financially from the fact that political donors and the RNC already assume we will lose some senate seats -- but that we could still win the presidency. 

What is more, it is possible that some voters will rationalize that Obama, Reid, and Pelosi -- all three Democrats -- running the government -- would be a bad idea.  Maybe the desire for divided government will prevail, and help McCain ...  Who knows?

Still, the Dole references have got to stop.  Oh yeah, and it would also help if ...

1). McCain's staff would not have him pose in front of Dole products at the grocery store, and,
 
2).  If conservative pundits wouldn't compare McCain to Bob Dole ...

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Pro writes: Friday, August, 01, 2008 8:18 AM
Huckabee instincts needed
Dean Barnett:

"The Tao of Huck"
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/the_tao _of_huck.asp

'Last night, Mike Huckabee appeared on Hannity & Colmes. I was occasionally critical of Huckabee during the primaries – okay, I was more like "very often" critical of Huckabee during the primary season - but his appearance on H&C was extremely impressive. The McCain campaign should be listening to this guy.

Huckabee provided the perfect plan for how McCain should have dealt with last week’s Obama World Tour. McCain has positioned himself as the grumpy uncle alternative to Obama’s irritating prodigy of a candidate. While the election will essentially boil down to Obama vs. Not Obama, it would behoove McCain to become more endearing.

And this is where Huckabee had a great idea. Rather than go 100% combative last week, the McCain campaign could have used some self-deprecating humor. It could have run a spot juxtaposing Obama swishing a three-pointer with McCain air-balling a lay-up and Obama basking in the adulation of hundreds of thousands of Germans with McCain making way for cleanup on aisle five. Then McCain could have said to the camera words to the effect of, “I may not be able to hit three-pointers or make the Germans love me, but while Barack Obama is out doing those things, I’m working every day to solve the problems of ordinary Americans.” A brief spiel on gas prices and drilling would have amplified the spot’s impact.

It’s a brilliant idea, or at least it was. While the moment for such an ad may have passed, the McCain campaign should realize that it has an ally in Mike Huckabee who knows a thing or two about connecting with the voters. His skills in this critical area dwarf those of all his Republican contemporaries. If John McCain has a kitchen cabinet helping him run the campaign, Mike Huckabee should be in it.'
TNconservative writes: Wednesday, July, 30, 2008 4:46 AM
I have said for a long time,
that McCain is a lot like Dole.

There are striking simularities.

Ultimately Dole lost because conservatives, that is the social conservative where the votes and the winnings are, felt pushed to the back of the bus by the GOP and Dole, and so they were divided as to rather or not they would support him. Dole wanted tolerance for the pro-choice business wing of the party and many social conservatives thought, why us? Why our issues? When not these business wing people be the ones who must tolerate, rather than us?

You see the thing that the GOP forgets time and time again, is that a very large block of their voters, vote strickly for social conservative issues, and nothing else. When that is not there, you might as well be a liberal democrat.

Dole caused a divide and unexcitement which resulting in him losing.

I think the same thing is likely to happen with McCain.
PC writes: Wednesday, July, 30, 2008 1:41 AM
Qweenmum
Yes, maybe the thing that bothers them the most is that we are so confident in our faith. Mick was complaining that Romney would not call his own faith screwy! Now why would someone bother to belong to a religion he felt was screwy?! I think most of them don't realize just how ridiculous their viewpoint is, but they think we are the ones with the problem!

I need to remind myself that there really are only a handful of people here that are over-the-top anti-Mormon and the majority of the rest do a very fine job defending us. People like one hot minute (where did he go?) Joe, Pasadena Phil. Virginia P, MaineConservative, and more. It seems to me that TH has more troublemakers than other sites, do you think so?

BTW - You were so right to suspect Huck, I didn't really think of it, but it was absolutely true. Matt Lewis was right on target with his post about the WA Times story.
Qweenmumof7 writes: Wednesday, July, 30, 2008 12:15 AM
PC
I don't understand folks like Cimmie. If he/she/it does not believe their faith is the only true and complete one, why even belong? I mean, if you can't say it, and believe it, maybe it's not. I don't have a propblem with my catholic friends sayig theirs is the only true gospel, so long as they believe it. But heck, a member of the LDS say it.... Nelly hold the horses!!!!

Perhaps he/she is jelous that we make that claim, and he/she cannot.
Louiselouise writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 11:21 PM
You're Right, GTJOHNS
McCain IS a Bobdole. Tired and old, and a RINO. Although Bobdole seemed smarter than McCain. But then McCain's wife has more money. Oh well, others can elect McCain, or not. I'm concentrating on congressional, state and local races. I cannot vote for a proamnesty back stabber. And when is he going to get rid of Prof. Dr. Juan Hernandez?
sloandog writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 11:00 PM
Passap are you still out there?
I'm sorry It's taken me so long to get back to your reply but I had to go out and earn a living.It doesn't look like I missed anything,the same old Mitt vs Huck BS that seems to be infecting every thread on TH. The reasons I can't completely buy into the third party theory is;first even though I once voted for Perot ,right now no one excites me,second is I think it's impossible to purge any of the parties of corruption.Politics is an inherently corrupt entity.Corruption can be defined as criminal behavior or violations of the parties core beliefs and misrepresenting said beliefs.While I am all for voting in the most pure at heart I think the only way to truly check this corruption is from the top down.Now I know you are going to say McCain is no Ronald Reagan,and I wholeheartedly agree and I must admit I am tired of waiting for McCain to address his most glaring problem(immigration).My decision will probably be made at the eleventh hour but don't let that stop you I always enjoy your well informed input.
GTJOHNS writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 11:00 PM
I agree with Big Mick

"I was comparing Mac the Knife to Bob Dole and Dole V Clinton last year.

I applaud Conservative Pundits comparing The MacChurian Candidate to Dole. They ARE alike, they Have and ARE Running LOSING Campaigns. They were both STUPID Choices, Old, Grouchy, Curmudgeon, Backward Looking, Candidates Nominated against Young Hip Forward Looking Opposition.

What Conservative Pundits SHOULD be saying, though, is what Alan Keyes HAS said--McAin't is the ANTI-Conservative.

I won't vote for the Backstabbing Sonofabeech regardless of how (best Festus Hagen of Gunsmoke imitation here: "Math-ewwwwww" rumps up and hoes for him. Don't care if he nominates KEYES as his Veep. UberCommiequeer Kerry's pick for Veep will NEVER get my Reaganite Vote.

A vote for McShame is a vote to destroy Reaganism. It was the purpose of his nomination.
If a so called "conservative" wants to cooperate with their rape/murder, you're welcome to your doom, morons. Me, I have DIVORCED the Spouse abusing GOP and am now Independent. I plan to vote "none of the above" in November, but will vote Hussein if that is the only way to stop Mac the Knife."



PC writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 10:44 PM
mariesgofer
You are so emotionally connected to Huck it's scary. It's not hard for me to remember Huck's issues, sorry, they sort of leave a mark. No other GOP candidate had so many glaring faults. I can't help that. And again, marie, the things I know about Huck are documented and a matter of record. His pardons, ethics violations (a fresh one just last month) amnesty flip-flop, anti-Mormonism, fried squirrel eating, wing-tips in Iran, wedding registries, etc. It would fill a several volumes to recount everything, but you get the picture.

Romney doesn't have that many shortcomings. He never pardoned 1000 criminals, never stole furniture when governor, is not a money-grubber, is not a tax-raiser-denier, his son never hung a dog from a tree and tortured it to death, he never tried to divide conservatives, he didn't stay in the race too long and embarrass himself, etc. Sure, he isn't perfect, but he was the best candidate we had, and it was a whole lot more than just Mormons who thought so, including Rush and all the other talks show hosts.

You keep accusing me of only liking Mitt because he is a Mormon, and I keep telling you that I've voted for non-Mormons my entire life. It's about who is the most competent, qualifed conservative with character that matters most to me.

I also told you that Utah voted for Bush in the same 90+% range as Romney. Last time I checked Bush had not converted to Mormonism.

I also told you that I would have happily voted for Fred, Hunter and even Guiliani. They never had the issues that Huck has, and even though Mac has some mighty large problems, he is not anywhere near Huckabee in the distasteful category. Huck is a true scoundrel, marie. Best for you to own up and look the facts square in the face.
PC writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 9:46 PM
The facts are on the side of Rush
Limbaugh that is. I'll stand with him over any of you Huck yahoos any day of the week!

He said Huck is not a conservative (righto), and that he never had a prayer (righto). He was too nice to mention all the chrracter issues, but he was disgusted with the bigotry Huck displayed (righto). He was nice enough to call it identity politics, though, because he didn't want to upset too many evangelicals who liked huck.
Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 6:59 PM
Gunlock, PC, et al
You guys argue like liberals. Facts be hanged.

You have a predetermined point of view and it is not based in reality. One of you comes up with a distorted view of Huckabee and it gets passed back and forth among til you all think it was your own idea.


If you are conservative, start thinking and arguing like one. The facts are on the side of truth.
Ana Mus writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 6:51 PM
This is a story I had never heard about
John McCain. Amazing.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/
Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 6:49 PM
gunlock
I did not say that. I merely pointed out that there are legitimate resons for supporting a democrat. Do you have proof as to Huck's motivations in this matter, or did you just lob a verbal molotov cocktail?

When all else fails, toss out the religious bigotry card. Provide proof that Huckabee maligned Mitt Romney's religious faith. Please tell me you can do better than the "Jesus and the devil are spirit brothers" question.

Provide a specific instance where Huckabee spoke negatively of Romney's religion during the campaign.

gunlock bill writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 6:40 PM
RushConservative
Are you saying that the Democrat he supported was more conservative than the republican? Do you have any evidence to support your assertion?
gunlock bill writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 6:38 PM
RushConservative
Huck is no conservative!!

His record as Gov of Ark is there for all to see.

Just because he is pro-life, doesn't guarantee that he is a social conservative.

He may be pro-second amendment, that is very nice.

But he is anti-first amendment by virtue of his religious bigotry!!!

No religious bigot can be a true conservative.
Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 6:30 PM
Gunlock
Obfuscation and avoidance.

I do not agree with Huck's stand on this particular immigration bill. I never said he was a perfect conservative. YOU said he was no conservative.

I provided you with ample proof of his conservative bona fides, which you continue to ignore and avoid.

Is the question whether or not Huck is a good conservative or a good republican?

If I had to choose between a conservative democrat, or a moderate/liberal republican, I would vote for the democrat.

Many, many republicans are no longer very conservative. Huckabee is not one of those.
PC writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 6:22 PM
mariesgofer
Not sure what your question is, but when Huck was asked who he thought was on the VP list, he failed to mention Romney's name. As we all know, Romney is at the top of the list. Huck couldn't say the word Romney because he hasn't been able to get over his jealousy.
gunlock bill writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 6:18 PM
RushConservative
Did Huck support illegal immigration by providing free education for the children of illegal immigrants?

Did Huck promote and support the republican party of Arkansas, or did he openly support a democrat over a republican for elected office?
Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 6:18 PM
gunlock
There is not one shred of proof that Huck's weight loss is anything but genuine.

It is beneath intelligent discussion to imply that it is anything other than Huck says it is.

Innuendo and hypotheses do not facts make.

Again, get over the Huck hate

Answer the questions if you dare.
gunlock bill writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 6:14 PM
RushConservative
"These assertions are without basis in fact."

Then explain why Huck failed to mention that Romney was a possible VP choice?

EVERYONE knows that Romney is on the list. And MOST recognize that Romney is at the TOP of the list.

So explain why Huck refused to even acknowledge it?

Did Huck raise taxes?

Did Huck equate increased taxes with increased hope?

Do you think the MSM would have ignored this http://plutarch01.wordpress.com/2007/12/13/huckabees-weigh t-loss-scam/

if Huck was on the ticket?
Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 6:13 PM
Gunlock
I did not claim that Huck was a perfect conservative, You best keep looking if you think there is one out there.

The Wayne Dumond is hardly a deal breaker, He supported the death penalty, in fact signed death warrants several times. There were a lot of extenuating circumstances in this particular case. I am not saying eh should have supported his release, there were compelling reasons, which I don't necessarily agree with. The fact is Dumond was granted parole and Huckabee did not have the power to prevent it or force it.

Please, with the tax and spend.

Of course government grew, all governements grow at some rate, the key is to limit it as much as possible. The per capita income of AR doubled in His term in office, of course tax revenue increased and government increased, the economy in AR grew. As you say, STRAWMAN.

Again, He pushed and passed the first large scale tax cut in AR history, He limited the growth of government. I don't think growing the economy, building a surplus that he wanted to return to the people is tax and spend.

Get over your Huck-hate.
Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 6:05 PM
gunlock
you are implying that Huck is jealous of Romney, angry that He is not the pick himself, etc., etc, etc.

You further imply that Huck stayed in to hurt McCain. These assertions are without basis in fact.

You further illustrate the deficiencies of your rhetoric by implying that cav was helping you make your point. Cav was pointing out that there were legitimate resons for Huck to stay in, He could afford to do it. Mitt could not.

Get over your Huck-hate syndrome.

I challenge you to answere the following questions about Huck.

Is he a social conservative?

Is he a second amendment conservative?

Is he a strict constitutionalist judges conservative?

Was the biggest tax cut in the histroy of the state of AR passed while he was governor?

Did per capita income double while he was governor of AR?

Was there a surplus when he left office, that he advocated be returned to the voters?

Did he establish a "Tax Me More" Fund to illustrate the deficiencies of liberal tax and spend ideas?

Does he believe that America should be energy independant?

Did he sign the no new Tax Pledge?

Did he advocate a tough stance on illegal immigration? ( i remind you here that Duncan Hunter thought his ideas were on the money)

Did Roads, State Parks, Education improve while he was governor of AR?

Gunlock, the answer to every one of these questions is yes. Huck is a conservative or there are none left in the country.
thebigmick writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 6:04 PM
Old News
I was comparing Mac the Knife to Bob Dole and Dole V Clinton last year.

I applaud Conservative Pundits comparing The MacChurian Candidate to Dole. They ARE alike, they Have and ARE Running LOSING Campaigns. They were both STUPID Choices, Old, Grouchy, Curmudgeon, Backward Looking, Candidates Nominated against Young Hip Forward Looking Opposition.

What Conservative Pundits SHOULD be saying, though, is what Alan Keyes HAS said--McAin't is the ANTI-Conservative.

I won't vote for the Backstabbing Sonofabeech regardless of how (best Festus Hagen of Gunsmoke imitation here: "Math-ewwwwww" rumps up and hoes for him. Don't care if he nominates KEYES as his Veep. UberCommiequeer Kerry's pick for Veep will NEVER get my Reaganite Vote.

A vote for McShame is a vote to destroy Reaganism. It was the purpose of his nomination.
If a so called "conservative" wants to cooperate with their rape/murder, you're welcome to your doom, morons. Me, I have DIVORCED the Spouse abusing GOP and am now Independent. I plan to vote "none of the above" in November, but will vote Hussein if that is the only way to stop Mac the Knife. For Cogent reasons see my blog. Click the Underlined name above.

the big mick

gunlock bill writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 5:57 PM
RushConservative
IF you are a social conservative, why support Huck the releaser of rapist to become murders?

IF you are a fiscal conservative, why support Huck the taxer and spender of Arkansas?

IF you are a small government conservative, why support Huck the grower of government in Arkansas?

Just wondering.

And lest you think otherwise, when I first heard Huckabee, I liked what he said. So I looked at his record, I didn't like what I saw.

Oh and then he pulled that anti-mormon/bigot stunt.
gunlock bill writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 5:51 PM
RushConservative
Strawman!!! Show me where I said Huck attacked McCain?

Also Cav agrees with me!!

"Even Rush Limbaugh, though his thinking is somewhat clouded since he became a Mittwit,"

So NO HUCK supporter is a rushconservative.
eddie too writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 5:30 PM
Cav,

that is an interesting hypothetical. Where would Romney have finished if he had spent the same amount as Huckabee? A good question indeed!!!
cavalier973 writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 5:22 PM
Why Huck stuck it out to the end
The same reason he stuck it out even though Guiliani was going to win hands down, back in August 2007. You can't tell what's going to happen, and McCain hadn't won the required delegates.

Even Rush Limbaugh, though his thinking is somewhat clouded since he became a Mittwit, said that Huckabee was betting on McCain massively losing his temper at some point. There was therefore the possibility of a brokered convention, if McCain for whatever reason couldn't muster up enough delegates to win.

In fact, it's with that in mind that I fault Mitter the Quitter for giving us McCain. If Romney had stuck it out instead of "being so noble, thinking only of the Republican Party", then we might have a brokered convention and a real conservative candidate, instead of McCain all the way. (I'm thinking, however, that Romney is not as Conservative as McCain is, especially on economic matters--look at their respective positions on Free Trade, for example).

And all you Mittwits who whine about Huckabee only getting more delegates than Romney because he "stayed in too long," I reply that the only reason Romney came even close to Huckabee's delegates is because he "spent too much money."
Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 5:13 PM
come on gunlock!
Are you serious?

Point out one time in the campaign where Huck did anything to attack McCain? The truth is he kept the republican primaries in the news for a little longer. What did Huck say? I am staying in because the people who have supported me deserve to stay and have their voices heard until the nomination is decided. Huck staying in, in no way hurt McCain. Why did Romney get out? Money. He had already spent so much and had received virtually nothing for it. Huck stayed in because he was not spending money hand over fist, and he could afford to stay in. Certainly, he was looking to the future and trying to get his name in front of more people. That is hardly a wanton attack on McCain.

Again, gunlock produce one item from the campaign that is directly critical of McCain from Huckabee.

Also, you are not the arbitrating ruler on who is conservative, thank goodness.
I am a social conservative.
I am a fiscal conservative.
I am a small government conservative.

I have never voted for someone other than a conservative in any election. I think Rush is right 98.7% of the time, or whatever the percentage currently is.

Huck is a good man, quick on his feet, good with a quip, and he is conservative. It is fine you do not like him, but look at his positions. You do not have to vote for him. But, you guys(you, PC, Qweenmum, and others) need to get over yourselves as the repository for the definition of conservative.



gunlock bill writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 5:01 PM
PS
If you are a Huck supporter you are NOT a rushconservative!!!!!!
gunlock bill writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 4:59 PM
RushConservative
You assign Huck motives and attitudes you cannot prove.

Why did Huck stay in the race long after it was obvious that he couldn't win? To support McCain? Yeah right!!

To be magnanimous to McCain? Yeah right!!!

"Huck has always known, and has said so, that he is not being considered for Veep."

True and he comes across as jealous and vindictive because Romney still is on the list.

He couldn't even acknowledge that Romney was still in consideration. Actions of a little man. LOL!!!
cavalier973 writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 4:48 PM
Matt Lewis vs. Rush; who's right?
Matt has now admitted that Huckabee is a "conservative" pundit. Now we know from the Mittwits and Limbaugh that Huckabee is "not a conservative."

Who do I believe here?

Thanks, RushConservative, for the link to Barnett's commentary.
Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 4:40 PM
PC
Just to point out. You did not and have not wrestled with the substance of what Huck said on H&C. Was he wrong? It was possibly, bu only slightly impolitik to mention Dole. But, that doesn't change that fact that Huck is right on this issue.
Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 4:23 PM
PC
You assign Huck motives and attitudes you cannot prove. Do you read minds? Are you capable of hearing what people actually say?

Huck has consistently been more than magnanimous to McCain. He has at every turn endorsed and lifted McCain up, despite McCain's missteps.

The problem here is McCain, not Huck. McCain appears angry quite frequently. He is moderate on far too many issues. His campaign is absolutely embarrassing. Conservatives win this election if we make it about issues and point out what Obama believes. McCain is too busy complimenting and what Obama has accomplshed to criticize his policies.

Huck has always known, and has said so, that he is not being considered for Veep. McCain should listen to Huck on this one. Look at What Dean Barnett said about Huck.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/the_tao _of_huck.asp

PC, we know you do not like Huck. But, at least intellectually comprehend that fact that he is right about this and has been right about a good many things.
PC writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 4:03 PM
cimarrone
Im not bigoted against Huck, my rejection has nothing to do with his religion, but everything to do with his character and record.

I don't know what books you are talking about. And yes, my church believes that we have the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. What does that have to do with the topic?
PC writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 4:00 PM
Rushconservative
this blog is about Huck and I just pointed out that Huck wants Mac to lose.

Intellectual honesty demands that you acknowledge that.
Rush Conservative for Huck/2012 writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 3:52 PM
pc? Are you married to qweenmum?
And is your last name Romney?

Bash Huck if you want. That ship has sailed this year. Get over it and move on. If he is so irrelevant, why do you give him a moment's thought.

The real problem you have is Huck was right on the money in this case. McCain looks like a man who is trying to lose this election. Huck's advice: Do not take yourself too seriously, speak to issues people want to hear about, and give the people a vision of leadership.

Was Huck wrong? Intellectual honesty demands you acknowledge that Huck was right.
John writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 3:48 PM
Bob-Barr-Bots abound

Glad to see the usual "conservative" suspects deriding McCain are out in force.

If any of your numbnuts think the GOP and conservative 527 groups are going to quietly sit our this election and not roll out a fierce fight for McCain and the White House - you're dumber than you sound!

The REAL campaign happens between Labor day and Election day. McCain isn't going to spend his wad pre-convention.

But you Anti-McCain conservatives, naysayers, and doom-and-gloom types keep hoping Obama wins! How sad are you - having already lost:

McCain wins - you're marginalized
Obama wins - you're marginalized

LOL
james beam writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 3:20 PM
looks
like pawlenty anyway , cantor would be the best pick . either are supieror to smirky mitt
james beam writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 3:17 PM
no more bigoted
than you and your cheap shots at huckabee .as a matter of fact loook at your church . it refers to all other christians as appostate , this is incredibley insulting considering who and what the mormon cult was founded by . ps have you looked at the books i suggested ? you can get them from the byu bookstore . i'll let your own scholars prove smith and the book of mormon a fraud.
PC writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 3:13 PM
cimarrone - who is smirky? snarky?
It's obvious you are a Huck supporter, you have the same vulgar frame of mind.

Romney is in Canada resting up for the VP roll-out announcement. Shoot, I can't wait to see Huck choke on that one.

Qweenmumof7 writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 3:10 PM
I think it's time for a party purge.
Cimmiron, your brown shirt awaits! I'll put your "I'm not a bigot, but Mormonism is ...." patch onthe inside, you can still pretend to be pious, while you know in your heart, your a bigot.
PS. Mitt has been on vacation at his childhood home along one of the Great Lakes in Candada side. He's spending time with his family, before the campaign gets into full swing, and he takes his stauts as Veep nomminee to te Olympics.

Status, that's what it is. Class and Status. I hope after this last faux pax on Fox, Mc immediately calls Huck to the national stage, looks him in the camera's eye and says "I've made my pick. It's not you. It's romney. Thanks for the lack of support. Now take your 12 bigots and go away."
james beam writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 3:03 PM
where is mitty
anyway, have'nt seen that smirky little elitest in quite a while . probably getting a new pair of magic undies,and gearing up to lose the next primary . if ispent over 300,000. per delagate and got spanked by mcain who averaged alittle over 50,000. per delagate i'd be embarrassed too.
PC writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 2:49 PM
cimarrone
Huck hit Mac in a calculated way. He wants to run in 2012. He didn't drop out when he should have, then he held a rally for himself the day before Mac was to campaign in AR. He's trying to divide the party. He isn't helping Mac as he pledged to do. Comparing him with a failed run is classic Huck. Failing to acknowledge Romney on the VP list is, also. This man is entirely self-focused and doesn't care one bit about the party, or the country, he just wants his next political opportunity. It's comparable to Obama wanting to win an election rather than win a war.

The contrast with Romney just keeps getting more stark. Poor Huck, he doesn't even know when he's embarrassing himself.
james beam writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 2:48 PM
huck was right
i liked bob dole and for the most part i like mcain but he does appear reeally old if he would just loosen up a bit ,dole had a tremendous biting sense of humour ,his handlers kept him from using it to keep him from appearing mean, cost him the election. mcain needs to go on the offensive and not fit the dems description as a tired old man . way to go mike tell like it is
james beam writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 2:39 PM
huck was right
i liked bob dole and for the most part i like mcain but he does appear reeally old if he would just loosen up a bit ,dole had a tremendous biting sense of humour ,his handlers kept him from using it to keep him from appearing mean, cost him the election. mcain needs to go on the offensive and not fit the dems description as a tired old man . way to go mike tell like it is
Qweenmumof7 writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 2:32 PM
Are we seeing it?
I the 'religious 'right' really impolding? Yeaaa. That means there will be room at the table fr EVERYONE, not just them.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/16365.html
Pasadena Phil writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 2:19 PM
How we help the party
We purge the party of the liberals who have taken it over. The best way to do that is to frustrate the money: RNC. Vote 3rd party for prez, conservative Republican down ticket. Keep the money where it belongs, Congressional races.
Virginia Patriot writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 2:11 PM
Eisenhower Responded To Illegals
With Operation (Notdry)back. Deported thousands in 3 months which convinced countless more to repatriate voluntarily. Did not surrender to the demands of citizens of other countries illegally in our country as McCain wants to do.
Joe writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 1:55 PM
Scarlet, so how do we help the Party?
By losing to Obama?

McCain actually does have a lot of similarities of Ike (and a bit of Truman's temperment too). But while I agree McCain is far from a perfect Republicans and Conservative, he is far better than the alternative.
ScarletPimpernel writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 1:35 PM
McCain - the Evil Eisenhower
War heroes. Bland. Seemingly nice. Had terribly Liberal opponents.

BUT

One did NOT hurt the Party.
Andrew writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 1:16 PM
Not as dire as all that
Out here in the Heartland, we're seeing lots of Obama signs. However, I think McCain is still seen in a positive light. It may be more on the coasts or in the more urban areas where McCain is experiencing image problems. I don't see McCain as Dole II. McCain has a lot of advantages over Dole from the campaign structure to message.
Pasadena Phil writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 12:55 PM
sloandog, you nailed it...almost
The only hope McCain has is to paint Obama as being so repulsive that people will overlook his own awfulness. What you feel is the relentless fear-mongering and race-baiting by the nose-holding RINOs. Resist it. The real fight will be in the House so our money and efforts should be re-directed locally. Don't be afraid to vote 3rd party. We need to fight the liberal agenda from below and it will be easier to fight Obama then McCain.
sloandog writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 12:45 PM
there's Dole and then duller
As I sit here on the fence teetering back and forth,hoping against hope that McCain's team will give me something to vote for ,I'm thinking he doesn't want to win.The only reason people are voting for him is that the idea of a president Obama joined by a empowered Pelosi and harry Reid is so revolting and dangerous to our country.McCain knows his big problem is immigration still he won't address it.His campaign has missed multiple opportunities to take the lead in domestic energy but it's response was anemic. The only reason the race is so close is because O bama is so bad.
Pasadena Phil writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 12:34 PM
Conservatives should support cons
McCain is a Democratic Party Trojan Horse. We are working at cross purposes to support that kind of a GOP candidate at the top of the ticket. There are plenty of conservative candidates running for the all-important House who are more deserving of our money and efforts than McCain. Right now, the only way McCain/RNC has found to raise money is to find a loophole around his own McCain-Feingold bill and steal the money from Republican governors while berating Congressmen for not contributing enough. This year, you are either a conservative or a Republican. Make a choice. Vote 3rd party top ticket, GOP down ticket if you can.
Joe writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 12:26 PM
We need to fight for every office...
from local school boards, to socialist bastions on city halls of our major cities, right up to the office of the President.

Conservatives absolutely should support McCain. And conservatives should support their local GOP candidates too. It all helps.
PC writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 12:25 PM
Huckabee wants Mac to lose
It's easy to see. He wants to run again but is too clueless to know his political life is over.

He also refused to admit that Romney is on the VP list. He is so jealous of Romney that he can't even bring himself to say the word Romney!

He's an embarrassment to the GOP and now to FOX - I don't think he's going to getting that talk-show gig any time soon.

When are Huck followers going to wake up and see this man for what he is? They still think he has a shot at VP for crying out loud. Huck knows the score which he why he's perfectly happy to diss both Mac and Romney.
Pro writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 12:25 PM
Straight Talk
Was he right? I mean, maybe it was impolitic, but was his analysis more or less on target? Also, saying this publically may serve as kind of a cattle prod.
Joe writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 12:23 PM
What a concept!
"What is more, it is possible that some voters will rationalize that Obama, Reid, and Pelosi -- all three Democrats -- running the government -- would be a bad idea."

Yes, that would be a very bad idea.
Virginia Patriot writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 12:10 PM
Dole II?

Not really, I liked Bob Dole.

Worse than Dole. I wasn't excited about Dole, but I wasn't pi$$ed off at him, so I voted for him. What's the likelihood of anyone who has been called names for wanting the gov't to actually enforce the laws, to vote for those jamming amnesty down our throats?

McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Leiberman. Leadership like this I can do without.

Carbon taxes, constitutional rights for Gitmo detainees and amnesty for illegal aliens await us no matter who wins.

GOP-RIP
RASHUM writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 12:07 PM
McCain is no Dole
McCain staff should be furious at any comparison to Bob Dole. Although Bob Dole campaigned on the promise of a 15% across the board tax reduction, he never was much of a supply-sider and had voted to raise taxes several times. McCain NEVER voted to raise taxes, and although he did not vote for the Bush tax cuts, he has since admitted they worked and should be made permanent.

Dole ran a terrible campaign, McCain has run a decent campaign so far. Considering George H.W. Bush was behind 17% at this point, and Dole was behind by a similar margin, the fact that McCain is behind by about 5% puts him in pretty good shape.


Pasadena Phil writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 12:06 PM
That is the battle line
"McCain will benefit financially from the fact that political donors and the RNC already assume we will lose some senate seats -- but that we could still win the presidency."

To kill the GOP brand and bury it by putting all the marbles behind McCain is suicide. The House, if not the Senate, is a seat by seat issue. The GOP has been losing at that level because of the chaos at the top of the party. For the most part, conservatives have losing to more conservative Dems. It is a credibility issue. Put the money in restoring that credibility. Congress is so much more important to the GOP than the presidency.

Hopefully, this is the very issue that will spark a floor fight at the convention. I hope the conservative delegates have the spine to walk out and re-direct their efforts and money to the Congressional candidates who have been left twisting in the wind by their party's corrupt leadership.
londongrl writes: Tuesday, July, 29, 2008 12:05 PM
I saw that...
and thought that Huck's performance ( and it was one) seemed so scripted especially the first couple of minutes. It was as though he were trying too hard. I squirmed when he made the Dole comparison and thought 'what is that guy doing?' He needs to lose the big head and think a bit before he speaks.
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