Thursday, May 29, 2008
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Webb as Veep?
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Posted by:
Matt Lewis at
2:11 PM
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I gave a speech this morning in Richmond, VA to VPAP, the Virginia Public Policy Access Project -- a great group whose mission is to make it easy for folks to search for Virginia political contributions on the net.
During my remarks, I noted that the "macaca" moment did several things. It swung the Senate to the Dems -- stopped the candidate most "insiders" believed would be the GOP nominee -- and it also gave us Jim Webb -- who (I noted) has a good chance of being Obama's running mate ...
James Fallows argues that Jim Webb would be great electorally, but that being Veep would make him miserable.
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Exactly when did I call your friends that? Now, unless your friends happen to be the BYU students I encountered in 1983, that would be pretty unlikely... If they are, give them my best. |
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It became personal the day when you called some of my best friends, who happen to be Mormons motherf***ing backstabbing scum.
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So, just curious, when did this become a personal issue for you? |
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And if they gave me a full day's of work to do, I'd happily do it.
Last year at this time, I handled 18 million dollars worth of business. Right now, I'm just filing reports, that's your wonderful Republican Economic management for you. (I'll probably be changing jobs in the next few months.)
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Did you not read my question?
You seem to have some pretty strong opinions about people's honesty and integrity. I'm asking if you think honesty and integrity include giving a full days work for a full days pay. |
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You seem awfully focused on my posts and activities, Princess. |
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Well, business is slow right now, and unlike you, I can actually chew gum and walk at the same time...
believe me, I'd love to be busier... Hey, but not to worry, we have this wonderful Republican leadership taking care of the economy... NOT! |
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First off, you are aware that I have agreed with you on absolutely nothing ever, anywhere. I just am curious as to one thing. I remember you saying you were employed and that you blogged here on your breaks.
I have just scanned through the times over the last few days when you posted (not read them all, I don't have that much time or interest. I just saw the numbers of times you have posted) - man, you have lots and lots of breaks. Just wondering if your employer approves of the way you spend his payroll dollars and if you believe honesty includes giving a full days work for a full days pay. Just curious, Princess.
And before you turn it around on me, I own my own business so I work for myself. |
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Jim: You keep missing the point. It is irony. You are the one hung up on whether the racist thing is going to be used, or matters. I am not saying it matters, to me or anyone else. Of course it wouldn't work if someone used it, just like it didn't work in the VA campaign for Senate as you point out, because Webb is a DEMOCRAT. Also, we're talking about the use of the 'N' word here, not the other stuff you brought up. If you are going to comment on other people's comments, at least take off your partisan Dem filter to read what they have written so you will understand what is being said. If you cannot see the irony of this situation, you lack any kind of objectivity. And yes, Jim Webb is a hypocrit about this subject (reference the '06 campaign, and I did not vote for the guy, so I would be glad to be rid of him. End of discussion.
Me: I understand EXACTLY what you are saying. The point is, it's a stupid issue. Anyone who read those books saw it as an work of fiction, in the context of creating a character. I've written a novel and several short stories. Iknow that the characters in those stories are not me, and they say things I don't agree with. It's called finding your character's voice.
On the other hand, Allen called a Webb campaign worker an ethnic slur, and he did it on tape! Stupid, stupid, stupid. The horrid thing is that had Allen not imploded, he'd probably be the nominee right now, a disaster waiting to happen.
Incidently, I'm not a Dem, I'm a moderate/conservative Republican. I just don't have the man-crush on greedy corporate executives that some others on TH seem to have. Especially ones who belong to degenerate cults.
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You keep missing the point. It is irony. You are the one hung up on whether the racist thing is going to be used, or matters. I am not saying it matters, to me or anyone else. Of course it wouldn't work if someone used it, just like it didn't work in the VA campaign for Senate as you point out, because Webb is a DEMOCRAT. Also, we're talking about the use of the 'N' word here, not the other stuff you brought up. If you are going to comment on other people's comments, at least take off your partisan Dem filter to read what they have written so you will understand what is being said. If you cannot see the irony of this situation, you lack any kind of objectivity. And yes, Jim Webb is a hypocrit about this subject (reference the '06 campaign, and I did not vote for the guy, so I would be glad to be rid of him. End of discussion. |
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As I recall, Newt Gingrich co-wrote a novel about a nazi-spy sex kitten sprawling her legs across someone's chest, and honestly, it didn't really derail his career that much. Scooter Libby wrote books with some racy scenes. So did Lynn Cheney. Republicans who can write seem to get a pass on such issues.
On the race thing, honestly, this is the first time I'm hearing about it, but at one time, Webb WAS a REpublican, and if this was an issue, they'd have Borked and Towered him during his confirmation hearings. |
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Are there allegations that Webb is a pedophile? Fill me in. Is this a joke or serious. I haven't heard anything about this. Thanks, JimP |
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Again you miss the point. No, I am not offended. Here's the point, Joe. It would be comically ironic for Jim Webb to be the first Black Pres. candidate's VP selection with his history of using the 'N' word. No Rep who wrote books using the 'N' word would get a pass on it, as Webb did. No Rep who committed 'acts of terror' in Watts by driving through the neighborhood brandishing a firearm while yelling the 'N' word a Black people would get a pass on it. [Imagine the psycoanalysis that would ensue on that one. lol] So here would be Webb as the VP- who was elected solely because he engaged in alleging Allen with being a racist with the willing assistance of the MSM- who actually HAS used the 'N' word repeatedly in writing and while self admittedly attempting to terrorize Black Americans. If a Dem does it, it is poetic license and teenagers engaging in boisterous fun-but not for a Rep. And I don't plan on throwing the race card at Webb if he's the pick. It is merely hypocritcal, ironically comic, and I would be glad to be rid of Webb as one of my Senators. Do you understand now?
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Lets have a communist and a pedophile on the Democratic ticket.
Sounds likea winning combo to me. |
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I like Webb and wish more Democrats were like him. Yeah, Webb would wear thin on some things and he has a classic Scots-Irish personality. But isn't that exactly what Barack Obama the mellow Hawaiian guy needs?
And onehotminute, yeah the far right nativists fear Planet McCain because he might just prove them all wrong. They would prefer to drive the country into the ****** with Obama so they can pursue their third party candidate dreams.
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JimP writes: Thursday, May, 29, 2008 3:10 PM
JoeB131
You missed the point. But you usually do. I actually want Webb on Obama's ticket. I point out his use of the 'N' word to show his hypocrasy.
ME: Sorry, did I do something to offend you? I know I offend a lot of people, but it's hard to keep track.
Anyway, this issue came up during Allen's desperate post-Macaca meltdown, and no one thought it was a big deal then. No one will think so now.
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Webb would not be perceived well by the public after a short while on the national campaign trail. |
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Typo correction: my post should read 'hypocrisy' |
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You missed the point. But you usually do. I actually want Webb on Obama's ticket. I point out his use of the 'N' word to show his hypocrasy. |
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still trying to use stuff in his fiction against him.
It didn't work for Allen, do you really think anyone else would fall for it?
Writers are supposed to create controversial characters. |
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afterall, Obama did not know what Rev. Wright said after 20 years of sitting in his church, so why would he know what Webb has said.
Yet McCain's maverick style would fit well with Webb. Neither one of them would bowdown to the other, so it would be a good match for them. As for what it would do for the Republican Party, why bother, McCain and Bush seem to care nothing about that so STAY THE COURSE BOYS. |
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Which Sen running for Prez has worked harder to achieve landmark legislation with major Dem/libs than the other two combined?
lol |
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Yes, please take Webb. Jim Webb, erstwhile Republican who used the 'N' word in his books more than any actual person North or South I ever heard, is perfect for Barry and Michelle. Oh, and don't forget he confessed he drove through the Black neighborhood in LA yelling the 'N' word and brandishing a firearm at the peaceable citizens, while he was a teenager. Ah youth. Those lazy, hazy, crazy days of innocense, eh Senator? And all George Allen did was say 'macaca'. Yes, Barry, please take this race baiting, turncoat, non-Southerner, embarrassment out of the Senate so maybe we can get a conservative back in. |
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for Obama.
First, he makes McCain competative in Virginia.
Second, he has solid national security credentials, having served as Reagan's Navy Secretary.
Third, he's brings a real human element to the campaign. The fact that he's a Vietnam vet AND has a son who served in Iraq neutralizes McCain's advantage in those areas.
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I can't figure out who is more fearful of a McCain Administration---is it the far left...or the far right ?
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Take one or both! Please! |
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great idea. at least one conservative on the ticket should help. |
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