I was watching President Bush yesterday,
and just dont know why the media hates him so much,
President Bush,
has had to face one problem after another,
ever since he walked into the Whitehouse,
and I think he has done a good job,
he has kept our country safe, ever since 9/11,
I like President George W Bush,
and I hope President Elect Obama does a good job,
we want them to do good,
but they DONT, want the same,
is that the difference between Conservatives and Liberals,
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Like I asked you, name one of Billy jeff's achievements. Or better yet, show what a big girl you are and name the accomplishments of Bush if you can.
Here is what I expect you to write-
Bush's tax breaks were for the Rich,( not true, they were across the board and even people who paid no taxes got a stimulus check)
The accomplishment here is that Bush's tax cuts grew income tax revenues to record levele in 2005.
It's Bush's fault that state and local gov't failed the residents of New Orleans, (all the while Mississippi managed to fend for themselves and they were hit just as hard. No looting there for what they "deserved")
Accomplishement: It was not the President's failures that caused the chaos in New Orleans. Why is nobody screaming about Galveston and saying it was the President's fault?
The economy sucks because Bush did it. (Credit crisis and regs in place were not Bush's fault and as far back as 2005 he said he worried but your boy Frank said no worries) There were even people from the National Community Reinvestment Coalition testifying that there should be more solutions to the practices of the lenders.
Accomplishment: He got us out of a recession handed to him by Billy Jeff and we reaped plenty of benefits. The current crisis is not Bush's fault.
Get over yourself, Lola. The COW Obama is handing you the biggest pile of manure and you are accepting it lock, stock and toilet. |
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Who defelected? I asked you to name one thing Billy Jeff did and you ranted that Bush squandered a surplus. That is utter bullshitt.
WHY? Because to date Clinton passed the largest tax increase in f-ing history claiming prosperity for all. The surplus was nothing more than what is known as debt shift, not debt reduction. The intent of all the budgets submitted to 1998 was to spend more than was taken in.
The surplus deception obvious in the nat'l debt stats. While they boasted surpluses, the Nat'l Debt was rising. Doens't matter whether you call it significant or not, it went up. This then means that there have been no surpluses since 1960. Now STFU with your ignorant crap. You have no clue about economics and you spewing is evident and you have no facts to back it up. Billy Jeff squandered the Peacetime dividends of the Military which caused the increase in spending for making sure our troops were equipped properly. Who do you blame for ignoring terrorist while getting blowjobs? Bush, I'm guessing.
You wanted to denigrate Bush, and you can. But at least answer what legacy Billy Jeff left for Bush? Clue??? RECESSION.
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This doesn't surprise me coming from Fred Barnes, because he's no closer to a conservative than Truman or Johnson, but this is a terrible list. As a conservative, I counted 3 1/2 "achievements" in that list. Medicare Part D is a horrible failure, and the only reason it has cost less than projected is many eligible have opted out because $4 drugs from the private sector has made it irrelevant. No Child Left Behind is a miserable failure that suppresses exceptionalism in schools with little gain in the bottom end.
But what really bothers me is that he claims to be a conservative and he celebrates the concentration of power in the executive branch. This is flat out disgusting. Barry Goldwater is rolling over in his grave. |
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Cannot see the forest for the trees and never will. Here's a thought. Tell me what, if anything Bill Clinton did during his Presidency that had a lasting effect. I can only think of one single thing. He diminished he welfare roles. He left President Bush's Administration with a recession, and Jamie Gorelick's lack of insight created a lack of shared intel, which potentially led to 9/11. Go ahead, Illinois Monkey Girl, tell me what Bill Clinton did besides lie and abuse his power in the WH. |
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I did reference "the Daley Dynasty"......
AND it IS still alive and kickin'.....
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...in the sense of how easily it got sidetracked. Anyway...
"Work ethic? Some day, skippy, why not look up how many days Bush spent clearing brush on his fake ranch, see how it compares to other President's time away from the work of leadership, and realize just how stoopid that claim of yours is."
I wish Bush had spent his entire disastrous presidency clearing brush instead. That is something he may be qualified for.
Taking him at face value he sure as hell doesn't understand the role of the executive branch in a constitution republic, but then again, I don't believe Bush has any use for the Constitution to begin with. |
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"I didn't reference which Daley, now did I?????"
You said "Daley Dynasty." That obviously includes the patriarch. |
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Wrong!!!!
Because Richard M. Daley IS still alive and current mayor of Chitcago.......
I didn't reference which Daley, now did I?????
All I made reference to was the Daley family.
Go "pick the flyshit out of the pepper" somewhere else, where you're more revered....
Like the Daily Kos, Media Matters, Move-on, or Huffy Posts...... |
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"I name 1 dead person, all the rest alive and kicking."
Richard J. Daley's been dead for quite a few years. |
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Let the revisionist historians and science fiction authors begin to convince us all that the eight years never happened! |
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ALL I named (except for Al Capone) are current members of the most corrupt political machine in modern times.
I name 1 dead person, all the rest alive and kicking.
You name 2 people long dead......
Get into the here and now.......
ILLINOIS IS STINKIN' CORRUPT....ESPECIALLY CHICAGO!!!
Solution for this???????
Build a huge dam on the Illinois southern border and back up the mighty Mississippi River.......
That'll give 'em a backwash enema that should get the job done!!!! |
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"If Illinois can claim Reagan because he was born there, then they CAN'T claim Lincoln (born in Ky.)."
Why not?
There's no reason not to have multiple criteria, even mutually-exclusive ones, for claiming or declaring pride in a current or former resident. Some of the people in your list were born in Illinois, some weren't. Is your list "hypocritical?" |
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Those "Land of Lincoln" plates should be replaced with:
Land of Rezko
Land of Ayers
Land of OBummer
Land of Farrakhan
Land of Jesse Jackson
Land of Jeremiah Wright
Land of Daley Dynasty
Land of Capone
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If Illinois can claim Reagan because he was born there, then they CAN'T claim Lincoln (born in Ky.).
Conversely, if Lincoln is identified with Illinois, not because of birth, but because he lived there awhile , then they can't claim Reagan for the same reasons.
I was just trying to point out YOUR hypocrisy.... |
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"Honest Abe was a product of KENTUCKY!!!!!"
Yeah, that explains "Land of Lincoln" on all those Illinois license plates.
"And Reagan spent almost his entire life in pre-loony California!!!"
So for Lincoln what counts is where he was born, but for Reagan ... not so much. |
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Honest Abe was a product of......KENTUCKY!!!!!
Those Illinois thugs love to claim him to offset all the corrupt dung that state has produced.
And Reagan spent almost his entire life in pre-loony California!!! |
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Lola (or whoever):
I helped your closing statement, of your first post: "That'll do, for a start, on how BDS these last eight years have been." Any wonder why most of the administration are more than ready to retire? And Lola, you've fallen for one of the commonest liberal lines! Giving Bush credit for everything political that happened during his presidency, as if the 535 members of Congress had NO ability to vote on any of his policies. Even a grade school level of understanding, of how our government actually works, COULD have helped you avoid this faux pas.
Salamander: Bush was legally restrained from being involved sooner. (he has to receive a request from the governer) Maybe if the N.O. mayor (D) had MANDATED evacuation, or the governer (D)had activated the Louisiana N.G. sooner, there would have been an entirely different outcome to Katrina. (After all, it was no secret that the entire city of N.O. was BELOW SEA LEVEL and a catagory 4 hurricane was coming!)
I think GWB did an outstanding job as President! He TOTALLY failed in protecting our borders, though, and allowed himself to take the rap for Congress trying to force the Kennedy-McCain treason down our throats! (BTW, 65% of Americans were against it, for the first vote and 85% were against it for the second vote. Why did they waste their time? (and OUR money) Maybe just living truth of how out of touch they've habitually become?)
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with "LEFTY PRESIDENT."
Best line of the whole article. I can almost taste the bitterness comming through the keyboard as this so called journalist types.
With the kind of sour grapes this lady is throwing around liberal democrats are going to really enjoy the next four years!
keep giving them what the liberals want Carol-I guess they've earned a nice cup full of your tears to drink once a day.
And who says the modern GOP isn't a bunch of whinny middle aged women with bad hair?
Carol you can join rush limbaugh and the rest of the fools in the new conservative party-your so called analysis will not be missed in the GOP as frankly I have yet to see you be right about anything. |
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to your posts and over protests.
You've reached "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." point.
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"The IP has nothing to do with it, on so many scores."
Yeah, it does. When I visit family up in Carlisle and use the local ISP, my location shows as "PA." Last fall when we were on vacation on Cape Porpoise, it showed as "ME." I realize that these technical details might be beyond your grasp.
However, feel free to continue your little transgender fantasy; I suppose thinking about it makes you all warm and tingly. |
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Mr. Munck tries to obfuscate his posts as ‘Lola,’ a woman he loves to post as, with the absurd reference to the Columnist/comments section of Townhall, as proof that he’s in one State and 'Lola', is in another.
MUNCK SAYS:
"Over in the TH "Columnists" section, comments are tagged with the state that the commenter is posting from, undoubtedly determined from the IP address. Lola C. shows as being in Illinois, and I show (properly) as being in Virginia. "
When we all know that when we register here, we give our town and State for identifier. Mine's California, but I could be in Maryland or Oman. I could have any situs and as many accounts as I want ... as we've noted of you Mr. Munck.
The IP has nothing to do with it, on so many scores.
Just ask Foxmustang, Homer and others that know you do this schizoid posting thing here.
Showtime’s bringing out this new program, “The faces of Tara” Might be very hot for you. Get some good clues for outfits to wear while crossing the divide.
What a pathetic attempt at eyewash. Reminds me of an arsonist I queered once that told me he couldn't be the culpable because in the heat of the escape and chase, he was found in his home taking a shower.
Mr. Munck, you’re as predictable as behavior and as easily graphed as grid paper.
But hey, If you have needs to have ‘identities’ “Lola” is a great one for your transgender popularity.
Busted dude.
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you ar e right - it's been a long day...shouldn't have included VRE in that one...my bad.
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Lighten up, Francis, Skippy, or whoever.
That's a bit of a stretch and you know it. |
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"Illinois......
THAT explains the vile lunacy being spewed by her.....
Illinois.....the state that gives/gave us:"
Also, of course, Abraham Lincoln and Ronald Reagan. |
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Bob Munck says Lola C is registered on this blog from Illinois......
THAT explains the vile lunacy being spewed by her.....
Illinois.....the state that gives/gave us:
Jesse Jackson
Louis Farrakhan
Tony Rezko
Bill Ayers
Bernadine Dorhn
Rev Jeremiah Wright
Rev Michael Pfleger(sp ???)
Gov Rod Blagojevich
The Richard Daley family
Al Capone
and, of course, the annointed one, Barry OBummer
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when VRExpress said "Diane, Lola and Munck are the same"........
I don't believe he meant all 3 were the same person........
He think he was ADDRESSING Diane as in: "Diane.......Lola and Munck are the same"...... |
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I think you are way off mark with Diane. The only explanation supporting your theory would be an even deeper psychosis and Jeckyl and Hyde level of schizophrenia that even the crazy one couldn't sink to. Otherwise, keep up the good work!
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Sorry, guys.
Can't speak for Lola and Munck, but I'm not either of them.
I do think I have wasted too much of my time and yours responding to Lola, though. For that, I apologize. After November's election, I have vowed to stop just tolerating bloviating from the left and to attempt a response. Sorry I've offended people I respect.
Not you, Lola.
Off to dinner. |
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"Diane, Lola and Munck are the same"
Easily debunked. Over in the TH "Columnists" section, comments are tagged with the state that the commenter is posting from, undoubtedly determined from the IP address. Lola C. shows as being in Illinois, and I show (properly) as being in Virginia. Given that I use my real name (and have always done so in 35 years on the nets) and have things like resumes, published papers, etc. all over the web, it's pretty easy to verify that I do indeed live in Haymarket VA. Not Illinois.
"Also, you’re welcome to refrain from attaching monikers to me here in the comfort of cyber that you would never do in my presence."
"Monikers?" Given that "vonryansexpress" is unlikely to be your legal name, you are presenting yourself under a moniker.
I'm curious why you think I wouldn't call you "Skippy" in real life. Are you a big, strong, manly man, someone from whom I would quail in fear? |
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By the time GWB had a legitimate try at getting Bin Laden, he was already in hiding.....
Contrast that to the 8 YEARS that 'ol Slick Willie had to get him........
And during almost all of that time, Osama was OUT IN THE OPEN, flaunting to his Islamic brothers how he could thumb the "Great Satan" (USA)in the eye, and we would not retaliate against his attacks........
Impotent responses to Islamic aggression reminds one of Novemeber 1979 in Tehran (also a Dem president....Carter).....
And now you have it.......a THIRD DEM APPEASER as POTUS.......
Heaven help us...... |
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Astute observation vonryanexpress. You nailed these 'phonies' with your customary precision. Thank you for your superb analysis. When Lola baby posted the 'skippy' in lower case the game was over.
Note to Diane, Lola C. and Munck: lighten up, Francis. You know what I mean, right? Jerk.
Now go away and let adults engage in rational discussion. |
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"7 months is plenty of time to get your act together. After all, he GWB)was notified - over and over and over again - of activity here in the US - and did nothing."
WE WERE ATTACKED BY AL QAEDA FOR 8 YRS UNDER CLINTON AND HE DID BASICALLY NOTHING.
Which is worse??
(GWB)....doing nothing based on "warnings" over a 7 month period..........
Or (Slick Willie).... doing nothing after actually being attacked at least 4 times (one attack on our own soil) over an 8 year period???????
Every person that is not a partisan, leftwing loon will say w/o hesitation that Clinton did us the most harm.........
"Turning the other cheek" to a bully NEVER works.....
It only emboldens them........ALWAYS!!!!! |
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Fred Barnes has now joined Michael Medved among the worst Republican hacks ever to punch a keyboard.
Barnes' praise of Bush's socialized drug program and federal control of schools are disgusting enough but pretending that the "War on Terror" was anything but a fiasco goes all the way to despicable.
Losing a war against a bunch of deluded psychos who wear funny hats and hide in caves puts Bush among the legendary incompetents of the past like Gen. George Custer.
In his quest to "fight terror" Bush succeeded in establishing two Islamic states ruled by Sharia, something that the terrorists themselves failed to do. Soldiers in Iraq who risk their lives daily are forbidden to have a beer for fear of offending the locals. Bush never fails to accommodate bigotry so long as the bigotry is religiously based.
His Iraq "victory" consists of establishing a Sharia based fascist state wherein the individual is nothing, the state is everything. If you doubt that Bush is a fascist, read the Iraqi Constitution and then read "Liberal Fascism". That should dispel any notions that Bush's ideas of presidential authority and state power aren't essentially fascist.
George "What's a veto?" Bush almost single handedly destroyed the economy with his insane profligate spending, although in his defense it must be said that had he not had vital help from Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer and Hank Paulson he would never have "succeeded" so readily.
Bush was and is the greatest traitor to freedom and free markets in the last 50 years. May his name become a curse. |
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Telling posters how words are used, using the same characterizations and telling others to do this and that on lists and dates, etc.
Here is Munck yesterday:
"vonryansexpress 1:00 PM
"America is a center right nation."
Sure it is, Skippy. That's why we elected the most liberal senator in the history of the universe President. That's why Al Franken (D-SNL) is house-hunting in DC. That's why there are 59 Democratic senators, 257 Democratic representatives, and 29 Democratic governors.
How about a list of the Senators that will actually be up for reelection in 2010, showing ages and number in each party? Pretty grim for the GOP, yes?"
And here is Lola today:
"vonryan
Work ethic? Some day, skippy, why not look up how many days Bush spent clearing brush on his fake ranch, see how it compares to other President's time away from the work of leadership, and realize just how stoopid that claim of yours is.
I'd laugh if it wasn't so very tragic."
and here's my answer to 'him both.'
Mr. Munck
Why don’t you produce that list for us?
Do the research and demonstrate the scholarship that you more often eschew then espouse given your propensity to parrot the work and sentences of others.
Perhaps, you might also set up a blog here at Townhall where we could all learn and be made whole by the strength of your argument, range of your knowledge and substance of your presentation.
Also, you’re welcome to refrain from attaching monikers to me here in the comfort of cyber that you would never do in my presence.
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Thank you so much for the education, Lola. Training as I did in the dark cave of conservatism, I didn't recognize what transference and projection really are. It's sometimes so hard to learn while dragging my knuckles along in the wake of such enlightened intellectuals as yourself.
I do enjoy reading Coulter. She nails moral relativists and those who employ the double standard, such as yourself, perfectly. That is why she is such a burr in your saddle. Immediately after posting this, I intend to purchase another copy of her book, which I will give away. Consider it done in your honor.
Please state the time and date of the post where I said I revere Bristol Palin for becoming pregnant out of wedlock. I don't revere her, but I admire her for trying to make the best she can of it and I wish her family well.
Feigning fainting couch vapors...? Please, you flatter yourself.
Hyperbole, generalization AND projection. Nice qualities.
Off to the bookstore to put another dime or two in Ann's pocket! Wonder where her book is on the bestseller list so far?
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if all the politicians took off two or three years off, the economy might recover if they could quite tinkering with it . |
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It's interesting that the two sources for the numbers involve CBS...one a somewhat less than balanced piece and the other a White House Correspondent. I think it says more about the media than anythig else.
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Could you please reconcile your desire to have had Bush II spend more time on the job with your constant lobbing of insults at his performance?
And your opinion on the relevance of the Clintons' offshore accounts? Are they completely irrelevant to her confirmation as Sec of State? (Hint: This is where your typical moral relativist, situational ethics baloney usually serves you well.)
Amusing puritan vapors...you wish.
I think vonryansexpress had it right. You ARE in fact a man masquerading as a woman. Your father must be so proud of his little man without a chest. |
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The first para of that article that Lola cites is as follows:
"President Bush recently spent his 879th day at his ranch in Crawford, Texas, since the Supreme Court, in all its great wisdom, elevated him to the presidency. This according to NPR's "Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me," which noted that Bush broke former President Reagan's record for taking vacations from the White House."
So it's an NPR comedy quiz show that we have for the source of your number.
My source:
"On Monday, he heads to his Crawford retreat, where he has spent all or part of 418 days of his presidency, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS News White House correspondent and meticulous record-keeper."
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/mason/5042 364.html
Citing the same article this piece then extrapolates the 419 number out to 499 over the full 8 years.
I'll let the other readers choose which source they believe to be more reliable.
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Eh...one Neo-Conservative defending another Neo-Conservative... |
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So Lola, tell me...
Those days Clinton spent engaging in cigar tomfoolery; do they count as work days? I suppose you could split them up and count some as pleasure and others as work, depending on whether he was speaking to foreign leaders on the phone at the same time. You might even double count them since he was multitasking: speaking with foreign leaders AND mentoring 20 year old interns in the ways of dirty old men.
And, can you also explain how it makes sense for that former President and his yet-to-be-confirmed incoming Secretary of State wife to have offshore accounts? Have we ever HAD a President who entered the White House with so little wealth and who subsequently enjoyed so much, the source of which is totally beyond scrutiny?
Bush made some mistakes. He also accomplished some great things - primary among them, avoiding another attack like 9/11 and taking our fight to the enemy. Like Carol and others, I think he erred in not going directly to the American people and stating his case more often, but history will tell what he didn't. I am grateful he served.
Bush and Cheney served with more grace and dignity than the Clinton's ever did or will, regardless of what you and your radical, lefty friends think, say or write. Their service reflected the same ill-mannered, foul-mouthed, projection-of-their-own-toxicity approach as do your posts. |
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Lack of communication was certainly the biggest downfall of the Bush admin. but Fed Barnes and other apologists leave out another enormously destructive area, the politization of low level government positions. This of course blew back heavily with Brownie and Katrina, but occured at nearly every gov. organization. Putting in terrible people for political reasons lowered people's trust in government to operate effectively and hurt everything from war policy to financial regualtion. |
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Projected at 499 days over 8 years.
If you take one day off a week plus 8 public holiday days a year that comes to 480. That leaves an average of 2.375 days a year off beyond what most people would consider a pretty full schedule.
It's all about how you present the numbers.
Meanwhile the house was in session for 118 days last year...does that mean they had 35 weeks of vacation? 435 lawmakers enacted 278 public laws and recorded 213 votes. Real busy bodies up there. I suppose we should be thankful for the fact that only 5.8% of "new laws" got enacted.
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You missed the FACT that the CIA had him in their sights, and finger on trigger, and the Clinton said let him go... Clinton's legacy. |
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The identity that you'd find in a "Kinks" song by the same name.
"Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls.
It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world,
except for Lola. Lo lo lo Lola. Lo lo lo Lola."
A man that needs to play a woman on the internet, ha! Ooo la la Bob!
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GWB was President a grand total of 7 1/2 months when 9/11/2001 occurred. "He was not listening to the warnings......". Yeah that was a first class CYA by the Slick Willie administration.
We were first attacked by the Islamic Facists in 1993, (World Trade Center truck bombing), Clinton's first year in office. FOLLOWED BY the truck bombing of the US military barracks, the Khobar Towers, in 1995. THEN AGAIN the bombings of the 2 US Embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998. AND OF COURSE the bombing of the USS Cole while docked in Yemen in 2000. ALL HAPPENED ON CLINTON'S WATCH WITH MANY DEATHS IN EACH ATTACK. His response??? Basically nothing except launch million dollar cruise missiles randomly around the Middle East. Results of that???? Next to nothing but he did manage to destroy a confirmed MEDICINE FACTORY in Sudan. The Sudan also, on at least one occassion, had Bin Laden under observation and offerred to "pick him up" for us. What did that weasel Clinton do??? He "took a pass", worried about his world image!!!
And it's GWB's fault that "he didn't listen"????
HOW ABOUT WHY DIDN'T SLICK WILLIE DO A DAMNED THING IN 8 YEARS?????
The blood of all the "Clinton years" attaacks AND the blood of 9/11/2001 is, and always will be, on Clinton's hands!!!!
And now we really have it........
The brain-dead American voting public has voted into the Presidency a bigger appeaser than Clinton, with a spineles "Dim" Congress to boot!!!
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Stop listening to CNN, MSNBC, etc., ad nauseum. And stop reading Kos, HuffPo, etc., ad nauseum. Go to the library and check out some substantive history, and read it. Then GROW UP. Get out of you parent's basement, breath deeply, and listen to some George Strait. Heck I'll even pop for a CD. Just let me know where to send it! :-) |
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You make this blog hard to take, but I guess that is your goal working for the Obamites. |
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You're correct Ms. Liebau, the greatest lost opportunities of G.W. Bush's administration have been the refusal to articulate the reason underlying any given policy.
Fatigue factor? You bet. Serving as Paladin for a nation state over these eight years is beyond the leviathan as task. It is in the realm of heroic.
May the Lord provide Mr. Obama with some of the character and work ethic of George W. Bush
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