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Saturday, July 28, 2007
Fear & Loathing on a YouTube Debate
Posted by: Matt Lewis at 7:39 AM

Sometimes I fear some ardent advocates of e-campaigns are more excited about doing cool and innovative things on the web, than they are about winning.

This is not one of those cases...

The reason Patrick Ruffini and others are passionately pushing this YouTube debate is that they firmly believe rejecting it is a symbolic gesture that Republicans don't care about embracing technology.

And I share their fear that Republicans are in danger of falling behind for the next several years (if not a generation).

This has both a tangible and a symbolic significance. On on hand, there are tangible things that Republicans can gain from running smart tech campaigns. Whether it's FDR's fireside chats, JFK's use of TV, direct mail, or talk radio, history proves the side that embraces a new technology has a dramatic advantage in the future.

But there are also image/brand issues at play here. Some already view Republicans as being hidebound. Perception is reality. Can we allow "progressives" to also "own" the image of being technologically progressive?

This controversy has sparked a debate in the "rightosphere," and fundamentally, I think the dichotomy comes down to whether you have a long-term or a short-term view of things.

Patrick is right when he says this could have huge negative implications for years to come, but he has the luxury of taking a long-term approach.

Conversely, today's GOP presidential candidates are most concerned about surviving ... today. Sure -- they'd like to make sure Republicans use technology in the future -- but that's a secondary concern. Their decisions about whether or not to participate should be based on one criterion: Will it help them win?

Hugh has stated some compelling reasons why the answer to that question may be, "no." Of course, you could make a good argument that everybody would benefit from participating, but history has shown us that sometimes debates have victims (see Ford, Mondale, Quayle, Dukakis -- just to name a few).

So while I am hopeful and supportive of a YouTube debate, I sympathize with political candidates who have the unfortunate burden of actually having to worry about winning a political race. And, I think Hugh is right when he says Romney and Rudy probably have the most to lose. Frankly, if I were advising a frontrunner on whether or not to do this -- and I had his interest (not mine) in mind -- I'm not sure what I would say ... Is the risk worth the reward?

So the question ultimately is whether or not those priorities (winning today vs. winning tomorrow) turn out to be mutually exclusive.



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SonnyJim writes: Saturday, July, 28, 2007 8:43 PM
So, the argument could be stated,
since a lot of modern people go the the theater, our candidates must show up at the burlesque and take pies to the face so that they can connect with theater-goers.

?

My youngsters are very net-savvy in the ways of the young. They knew jack about the YouTube democratic fruufah when I asked about it. They go to YouTube to watch HappySlip talk about her parents, not to watch John Edwards and Mike Gravel duke it out with Hillary Clinton and Barracks Obama.

Short answer - Patrick doesn't know his intended audience.
one hot minute writes: Saturday, July, 28, 2007 2:36 PM
we oppose the circus, not the technology

Matt Lewis wrote;
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"The reason Patrick Ruffini and others are passionately pushing this YouTube debate is that they firmly believe rejecting it is a symbolic gesture that Republicans don't care about embracing technology."
------------------

Matt Lewis,

I don't think you quite understand the argument opposing the YouTube/CNN debate.
This isn't an issue about 'embracing technology,' rather it's an issue about 'embracing silly questions.'

In other words, it's not oppostion to the TECHNOLOGY, it's opposition to the CONTEXT of how the technology will be used.

Let me give you an analogy about using nuclear power.
We're not opposed to Iran using nuclear technology because we oppose them 'embracing technology,' rather, we're opposed to Iran using nuclear technology because of the CONTEXT in which they plan to 'embrace' that technology.
They intend to use it for evil purposes.

By the same token, we who oppose the GOP candidates entering into the YouTube/CNN circus are not opposed to web videos 'per se,' rather we're opposed to the context in which CNN will intentionally 'embrace' silly and inappropriate questions in order to manipulate the GOP candidates.
The YouTube questions which CNN will select for the GOP candidates will not be serious inquiries from 'actual Republican primary voters.'
You and I know they'll choose loaded questions from members of Code Pink or Greenpeace.

As we witnessed with Anderson Cooper in the Democratic YouTube/CNN debate, Cooper selected an inappropriate question for Barack Obama he would never dare ask a candidate if he had to put his own integrity behind the question.
He attempted to absolve himself from responsibility by saying, "Well, first I want to say that this isn't 'my' question."
Just imagine the inappropriate questions heading down the pike for the GOP candidates.

The dangerous aspect of thrusting inappropriate (or just silly) questions into a Presidential debate is that it gives LEGITIMACY to such questions.
In the future, every wisenheimer with a press credential will claim 'license' to ask inappropriate questions of candidates by asserting, "Hey man, I saw Anderson Cooper ask you the very same question on a debate on CNN !"
BG writes: Saturday, July, 28, 2007 10:27 AM
Slow Motion Debate
You Tube is designed for slow motion debate. You post a video (and can block any responses that you do not want to deal with) and then someone else responds with a comment or a video. You then can take your time, research the best answer (dodge the comment if you want) and then post an answer.

If you try to integrate it into a live debate it shifts the advantage to the writer of the questions. They have weeks and can hire professional developers to create the best trap questions in the world. The candidates have to respond immediately and with a "talking head" format that is not very powerful.

The only reason that one of the Dems were not blown out of the water in the You Tube debate is because CNN selected and then steered the questions to protect major candidates from embarrassment.

They will wait for the right opportunity but they will try to "kill" one or more of the Republicans when they get the chance.

Do you want CNN to pick the Republican Nominee?
IfAFrogHadWings writes: Saturday, July, 28, 2007 10:09 AM
Democrats are...
...probably more comfortable in gay leather bars than Republicans are too. But I wouldn't recommend that a Republican candidate get more involved in that scene just to pick up the cultural slack. Let Democrats have their silly YouTube debates. See if it gets them any demographic they don't already have locked up. I don't think so.
Pasadena Phil writes: Saturday, July, 28, 2007 9:36 AM
Matt
All your argument points out is that the GOP candidates aren't up to the challenge. Taking risks is how you win, that is, if you believe you are backing the most capable candidate. I am hearing nothing but fear rooted in what can only be a deep lack of confidence. It wasn't Reagan's handlers who took control in Nashua in 1980 "I paid for that microphone Mr. Green!" If these guys can't lead their own campaigns, why are they wasting our time? Next!
irtexas writes: Saturday, July, 28, 2007 9:26 AM
You tube, not!
I don't give a rat's patut about you tube. I agree with Ex-Tex. The internet is not that important to everyone. Either come to the districts in person or on a good network (Fox) and do your thing. The game show format with the idiot Chris Matthews didn't do for me. Just go back to Charles Gibson, Brett Hume and people that are believeable to do the hosting. I am not going to sit and watch you tube. Get a grip. So hopefully the GOP will not go down that trail.
Ex-tex writes: Saturday, July, 28, 2007 9:16 AM
For heaven's sake-
To repeat the CNN/Utube/Lib children's hour would be stupid and unecessary. Forsaking this debacle hardlly equates to throwing the entire technology of the future under the bus.

If all you young'uns want this thing so bad- then come up with a different format that would have actual value to grownup voters. GROWNUP VOTERS!

None of this makin our candidates look like idiots just because theirs are willing to.
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