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Wednesday, May 14, 2008
The Catastrophe In China
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 10:46 AM
As expected, the death toll is shooting up, and thousands --tens of thosusands?-- are still trapped.

Please consider a donation to the earthquake relief fund established by CaringforChina.org, which can be made over the web or by sending a check to

Caring for China
3300 S. Fairview
Santa Ana, CA 92704

   
AP.

 



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clarityseeker writes: Thursday, May, 15, 2008 8:44 AM
ARCH
Final thought:
China receives inordinately miniscule scrutiny and ridicule from countries around the globe. Conversely, the USA receives massive amounts (no doubt a part of its role in the world).

The Olympics are to be held in China in just a few weeks. This has been rewarded to them despite the heinous behaviors it exhibits towards its own people. Handed to them on a silver platter despite their activities in Burma:
1.) There are no pressures put on the Chinese by all of these otherwise visible Human Right's organizations.
2.) Governments are not speaking of China's human right's violations in any robust nature.
3.) The Olympic Committee is not asking questions of China. They are not helping to bring about any exposure to the underbelly of China's systemic failures----simply a, "March on" posture is one adopted by the olympic officials.

Arch, there is a HUGELY DYSFUNCTIONAL environment occurring in China. And one might think that more people would be addressing this---especially when something so devastating as this earthquake occurs there. Mine was a simple observation.

It simply seems that little interest is generated by Hugh's thread on these China incidents. Tens of thousands of people have just been snuffed out within the interstices of China, and the world MIGHT be watching, COULD be curious about how this government responds to it, and hence communicates about it to the rest of the world----except one would not know given the amount of posts registered on these applicable threads. Just sayin'.
clarityseeker writes: Thursday, May, 15, 2008 8:26 AM
Arch
Your comments are appreciated, however, it was neither my intent, nor my wishes to "guilt" folks out of a sense of protecting of a "boastful" notion.

My observation was simply this. Count the number of posts on various threads, subjects, issues which Hugh and his associates raise. So many of these posts, mine included, are simple "chatter". But that "chatter" is strangely absent from this issue in China.
There is very little dialogue.
It is not necessary to declare one's "contributions" (financial) here. However, other contributions are generally offered up freely, without restraint. Perhaps this earthquake damage is so uncomfortable to get one's mind around, most folks simply refrain from addressing it.

arch writes: Thursday, May, 15, 2008 12:21 AM
Have faith!
clarityseeker writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 8:47 PM
Fascinating...
This is a tragedy of untold dimension and proportion. We may never know the true cost in human life and suffering. What is clear, however, is that this story, similar to the ones dedicated to the same subject (just below), are eliciting insignificant "traffic", especially compared to the political nonsense.

I am counting 4 posts on this thread. I count 4 posts on one of the related threads below. Does this reflect a disinterest on behalf of the many visitors to this site?

I wonder

Arch says:

I sent 100 smackeroos to the LCMS evangelical mission to China foundation in hopes that they can get relief past the commie thugs. The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod has missionaries over there who have been jailed under the ruse of insurgency. Those that are working through the church have found many ingenious ways to circumvent the commies in dealing with evangelism. I have not posted about this because it may seem to be boasting but whatever. these kind of organizations can get past the red tape better than any government agency. Take my word for what it is worth.
clarityseeker writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 8:47 PM
Fascinating...
This is a tragedy of untold dimension and proportion. We may never know the true cost in human life and suffering. What is clear, however, is that this story, similar to the ones dedicated to the same subject (just below), are eliciting insignificant "traffic", especially compared to the political nonsense.

I am counting 4 posts on this thread. I count 4 posts on one of the related threads below. Does this reflect a disinterest on behalf of the many visitors to this site?

I wonder.
KGK writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 1:23 PM
50,000 troops
I mentioned two days ago, with Seehawk, et al, why I would be leery of giving to Chi-coms in need. The Austrailian today, has an article on how nations for which the USA has donated aid for natural disasters still hate us with a passion and much of the aid ends up in the coffers of the dictators. Sorry, but Katrina, even with my donations to Samaritan's Purse(a good group), ended up with the people hating the Govt, re-electing Nagin, and approving of Blanco while hating Bush and others who did not cater to their every wish. Burma will not allow aid in as we now know. The Govt has caused disasters in Ethiopia, Rwanda, Sudan and our aid has done zippo. The Chi-Coms sent 50,000 troops to the area to deal with a dam, dig outs, arranging burials et al. Does anyone think that the Coms will allow aid to go to the hurting with American names dispalayed, aid, helping charities recognized?? I know that Hugh is correct that one must give to one's enemies, preach the Gospel, do social justice. But, being a damn fool is not part of Christian charity. There are now 57 Islamic dictatorships. If they are hurting, should we rescue them too? For what end? Perhaps eternal but surely not reality with them ever appreciating aid or even giving Christianity another chance at dealing with their belief systems. I have given much to Christian charity, here in our own nation. It has far more worth since the aid gets through and people grow both in faith and opportunity.
richard_223 writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 12:37 PM
Anyone Know?
Yes, is there any assurance funds go to the people in need, and not to the coffers of the ChiComs rulers?
Joe writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 11:12 AM
Perhaps World Vision is a better choice
http://www.wvi.org/wvi/wviweb.nsf

At least we know that organization's reputation (it is excellent) and it is Christian and U.S. based. They are reporting they are operating in both Myanmar-Burma and China.
Joe writes: Wednesday, May, 14, 2008 11:09 AM
Is there anyway to give to Burma?
Is there any on the ground relief organization that is operating in Burma? Just giving to the ruling Junta is something I would rather avoid (because that actually causes more harm and the help to the affected people is negligable at best).

As to giving to China, is Caring for China a safe organization to give to? Are there any recognize U.S. based charities operating there?
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