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Tuesday, February 27, 2007
New Low for the Angry Left?
Posted by: Dean Barnett at 10:29 AM

Sorry, Daily Kos – you’re now officially yesterday’s news. With today’s blogospheric reaction to the attempt on Dick Cheney’s life, the Huffington Post has officially and easily surpassed you as the one indispensable stop for readers wishing to sample the fury, bile and idiocy of the sub-moronic left.

Before getting to the HuffPo, first let me offer some uncustomary love to the Kossacks. In the one “recommended diary” on their site regarding today’s events in Afghanistan, the Kossacks responded in a relatively dignified manner. “Relatively” is of course the operable term here, but had this happened three years ago the Kossacks would have probably registered their displeasure over the fact that Cheney was still alive. Not anymore. Oh sure, many of the Kossack comments snarked on the Vice President’s physical courage and offered other juvenile insults, but I saw only one comment that seemed to express frustration that the assassination attempt failed.

This represents major progress for the site, and reflects well on Markos’ efforts to make the site respectable enough that mainstream politicians will continue to pursue the community’s affections. Markos has well learned the lessons of past embarrassments. The Daily Kos has officially cleaned up its act. At this rate, in another couple of years the Daily Kos will be as boring as MyDD. That’s a good thing for Markos, a bad thing for connoisseurs of left wing lunacy.

Fortunately, we’ll always have the Huffington Post, or at least we will until Ariana runs out of money. Goldfarb the Also Indispensable of the Weekly Standard calls our attention to this HuffPo comment thread following a story about the assassination attempt. Here are a few samples:

“Geoman 77” (if that’s his real name) opines, “Cheney's spokeswoman said he was fine. F**k.”

“ResistanceIsFutile” gets right to the point: “S**t!”

“Fantanfanny” shows some carefully calibrated outrage: “So Cheney is personally responsible for the deaths of 14 innocent people...and then he waddles off to lunch!! What a piece of s**t!”

“Irual” shows his/her/its outrage by using a lot of exclamation points: “To (sic) bad they missed!!!!!!!!!!!!”

“TBD” shows the kind of plucky optimism that made America great: “Better luck next time!”

“Pakiman47” waxes wistful: “What a different world we would be living in today if they had succeeded.”

“Ncjohn” hears history’s echo: “In 1944 Claus von Stauffenberg's bomb unfortunately missed Hitler. I see the parallel and the inherent risk. This is to that what 9/11 was to the burning of the Reichstag. I am waiting for this effort to obliterate Cheney to be linked to Iran just like 9/11 was purposefully linked to Iraq by the ghouls who control our country.”

“Jazzman” sees the same parallel: “Isn't this the moral dilemma that Deitrich Bonheoffer found himself in when he chose to join a plot to assasinate (sic) Hitler. If we know that Cheney is plotting to light up the entire Middle East region by instigating an attack on Iran, if we know he is lying to do so, if we know that he is launching these wars to line the pockets of his corporate friends, and establish hegemony around the globe, if we know that he intends to hijack civil liberties and destroy constitutional government in this country, should we cheer if someone could stop him before hand?”

I was going to offer my own pithy summation of what this all means, but I could do no better than one of the Huffington Post’s lonely voices of reason, BJasinBeetlejuice, who courageously waded into the virtual cesspool to do battle with Angry Left:

Some might think the comments on this thread represent a dark day for the Hufftards.

I think the light is finally shining on the seething hatred that dominates the angry left.

You're just demonstrating what I and a lot of conservative posters have been saying for a long time. It's BDS manifest. We should have a "race for the cure" and colored ribbons or wrist bands or something.

Let us have some more, Hufftards!

As the great man says, Indeed.

Compliments? Complaints? Contact me at Soxblog@aol.com.



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MillicentBystander writes: Saturday, March, 03, 2007 12:51 PM
Disgusting, yes but...
How are these comments any different than those coming from our folks on the right?

Ann Coulter actually proposed assassinating a sitting president,Clinton. And Rush... Yikes! makes me want to go independant and leave the whole sorry lot, left anf right behind
Stradlin7 writes: Thursday, March, 01, 2007 11:28 PM
Cheney's not the Antichrist....
...he's the AntiChris. Ever see him on Hardball? Zell Miller briefly channeled Dick Cheney, who can project out his thoughts on any unsuspecting individual.

I never see Dick Cheney at any of the Worldwide Cabal of Evil meetings. I have reason to believe that he may have actually turned into a being of pure astral energy, and all that we see is his neural projection.

These Marxists are engaging in something akin to pure anti-humor. This is a common symptom of Bush Derangement Syndrome. To cure this, I'd recommend that you purchase Exxon Mobil (XOM) stocks so that you may reap the benefits of the runup in oil.
shootarepublican writes: Thursday, March, 01, 2007 9:35 PM
I am part of the angry left
Hi...Like my username?
Please follow the link to my poll question on what the world's reaction to the theoretical death of VP Dr. Evil would be?
Hint..right wing freaks like you won't like it. :-)

Look for topic "Better luck next time Taliban"

http://www.goerie.thinkhost.com/goerie/board/viewtopic.php?t=907
Josh writes: Thursday, March, 01, 2007 5:01 PM
Lazy and Stupid
This is some lazy stuff, Hugh. I can prove any ideology to be unhinged(or whatever) by picking the worst comments on blogs.

Hell, I once read a LGF comments thread that lamented the fact that Kofi Annan was not present at a UN outpost that the Israelis accidentally bombed. Can I accuse the right of being violently unhinged based on these anonymous comments? Because according to your logic, I can.
Lightning Joe writes: Thursday, March, 01, 2007 2:26 PM
I can't believe this!
Are you seriously complaining over a few loose comments about the VP overstaying his tenure on the planet?

Get a grip. How many times have we heard the same sort of rhetoric from the right wing; yea, from the Decider in Chief himself? Only difference there is, He pronounces judgement on regimes and whole cultures. Never mind that thousands have to die to see Him plant the "Seed of Democracy" (Hmm, sounds fun, when I put it that way!)

So in the face of this murderous, classist, richist, anti-humanitarian administration, you have the gall to be upset by a few liberals that are so frustrated by it all that they say what many more would like to say.

Give it up. Go pick on Gore some more.
dogjudge writes: Wednesday, February, 28, 2007 12:08 PM
Inflamatory Personalities
I object to anyone calling for the Vice-President's death.

That being said, I have to wonder how much of this is caused by the Vice-President's personality? Even his supporters must admit that he is definitely an in your face type of individual.

Given that assumption, you're going to cause more of the radical parts to come out.

It happens on both sides. Live by the sword, die by the sword?
cmoore writes: Wednesday, February, 28, 2007 1:10 AM
Bottom line
I understand those posts are gone now and so they should be. Hate speech like that is unacceptable no matter what political side it comes from. Its simply not defensible and contributes to making the political process untenable no matter what anyone says. Since people that right that stuff cannot rely on their intellect vitriol is all they have to fall back on . Oh well their really just noise in the channel nothing more.
Honesty is the best policy writes: Wednesday, February, 28, 2007 12:49 AM
BrianX1979
You must not be looking very hard. Liberals/democrats are traitors, lethal force is solution for illegals, nuke the haaj, dip bullets in pigs blood and shoot muslims for effect, can't trust obama because his name is hussein, it's time to take up arms...

Check out a few of the blogs they are linked to as well and you will find similar things posted. But if statements like the above don't bother you, you are in the same mold of the Huffpo commenters Barnett mentioned.



laborlawyer writes: Wednesday, February, 28, 2007 12:39 AM
a bunch of stuff
Jeffrey, thanks for the nod, and thanks to VOR and others who agreed with my basic points, which were: (1) there are nut jobs on the left and the right, and (2) it is unfair to judge a blog, or a whole political movement, by a few nutty comments.

To those who want evidence of nutjob comments here, I'm not going back to find them, I'm sure there will be more and I'll flag some of them.

trojan140- if being for universal health care makes you a "left wing nut job", well I guess I qualify too. But then I see you like Ann Coulter, so that does provide perspective on where you're coming from (see wextra's comment above for examples of Ann's wondeful "satire").

To others- we're not whining, attacking Dean or thrashing around on the ground (nice image, though). Just pointing out an inconsistency, and disagreeing, rather civilly I might add.

fenderdeluxe- I don't know where some of this nutty hatred of Bush and Cheney comes from. I don't like it. I certainly don't wish any personal ill to the President, Vice-President or anyone I may disagree with. I do keep remembering Jerry Falwell's movie about the "Clinton murders", all the nonsense about how Hillary had Vince Foster "murdered", all those who sided with Randy Weaver and David Koresh and called our Attorney General "Janet Sterno", to name but a few similar examples from the last Administration. I do hope we can get past that as a country and actually debate issues, though I'm not holding my breath.
Fenderdeluxe writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 11:57 PM
labor lawyer wrote:
"So, you're judging blogs not by the blog posts, but by the comment threads?"

Well, yes and no.

It's relevant when there were so many of them - and we're talking really nasty, and juvenile stuff here - that was posted so quickly and where people were in such agreement. A virtual mob formed on that thread, accessorised with their pitch forks and lighted torches. And it formed over the V.P. of this country, unpopular or not, getting blown to smithereens. Not small potatoes. Now, that doesn't say EVERYTHING but it certainly says something. Like I said - too much, too quickly and with too much uniformity. And it's certainly more relevant when it happens on a very mainstream liberal/progressive site like the Huff. Post. No, it doesn't say the publishers of the blog own those nutball comments any more that a Dean or a Hugh own the stuff that, at times, I find just off the wall around here. It's about the posters.


Seriously, not everybody is like you, who seems intelligent, logical and is well spoken. There is a real nutbag anti-Bush element amoungst the liberal crowd. Make no mistake about it, that's separate from the anti-Bush people such as yourself. Totally different. Sure we had some of the same when former Pres. Clinton was around, and maybe this is just my partisianship showing, but this seems uglier, more strident and just plain meaner than that stuff back in the day.

Hey, it's just my sense of things I realize, but when it rears it's ugly head as it did with the V.P., it's worth commenting on. And any reasonable person is going to form a conclusion when they see stuff like this happen. Not a final conclusion mind you, but a conclusion none the less.
BlackForestReaganite writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 10:36 PM
This isn't the first time...
..the nutroots have suggested or supported asassination of Pres. Bush or VP Cheney. Read on:

"The Fredo of the family is the president of the United States, so why doesn't his father or his brother … take him out for a little fishing, and let him say some Hail Marys – he loves God so much. … You know, Hail Mary, full of grace, God is with thee – pow [gunshot sound] – works for me." - Randi Rhodes on her radio show, May 10, 2004.

This was on nationally-broadcast radio. (OK, some may say that the fact there were maybe 20 or so people nationwide who were listening to her show mitigates things a bit, but I don't think so.)
ScarletPimpernel writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 9:22 PM
StromD
take the plank out of your eye.


btw- did Cheney fire first?
swampthing writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 9:13 PM
Typical Lib Tantrums; That's Good

»StromsDaughter writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 7:35 PM
swampthing writes:
Dick Cheney is evil, he is a Machiavellian, hypocritical, devil in disguise, if he is not actually Satan himself in human form. He could certainly be the prophesized anti-Christ. «

Good thing nobody can find where I wrote that. That's cuz I didn't write it.

And, of course, that Lib doesn't even know Scripture enough to know what "anti-Christ" is. It doesn't even know that Satan doesn't come in human form because it would be too easy to dismiss him.

But, of course, Libs do this all the time, don't they?

And, of course, if they didn't get mad, we' wouldn't be doing our job and we wouldn't know we are doing the right and correct thing.
swampthing writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 9:07 PM
Pain Therapy

»to pretend that you haven't at least tried to insult me is... lying«

You gotta ease the pain somehow, and I guess that telling yourself that is one way.

»you're a perfect example of the sort of low life, scuzzy discourse you get with the type of blogging Barnett's doing today«

Gee. There goes another night's sleep.

»StromsDaughter writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 7:35 PM
swampthing writes:
Dick Cheney is evil, he is a Machiavellian, hypocritical, devil in disguise, if he is not actually Satan himself in human form. He could certainly be the prophesized anti-Christ.«

See? Libs are now making up things.
StromsDaughter writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 7:35 PM
swampthing writes:
Dick Cheney is evil, he is a Machiavellian, hypocritical, devil in disguise, if he is not actually Satan himself in human form. He could certainly be the prophesized anti-Christ.
StromsDaughter writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 7:30 PM
swampthing writes:
Dick Cheney is evil, he is a Machiavellian, hypocritical, devil in disguise, if he is not actually Satan himself in human form. He could certainly be the prophesized anti-Christ.
JerryL writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 7:23 PM
here we go again
Dude, you wrote "is JerryL Blonde?" in the subject line of your post. Don't worry, I couldn't care less, but to pretend that you haven't at least tried to insult me is... lying. Childish name calling definitely qualifies as an insult. Don't lie.

But don't worry, it's worth it because you're a perfect example of the sort of low life, scuzzy discourse you get with the type of blogging Barnett's doing today. You're proving my point. Thanks, I guess.
swampthing writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 7:10 PM
Libs' Feeling Insulted is Automatic

»As I said before, all this style of blogging does is get both sides to "dig in their heels and insult each other..."

Swampthing's decided to chime in as example #1, I'm sure they'll be more.«

Are you claiming "victim status" now? Nobody forcing you to be here.

Just cuz you are sringloaded to feel "insulted" doesn't mean anybody insulted you.

»Dick Cheney is the personification of evil.«

I, for one, would like to see proof of this.

» May God have mercy on his soul.«

He already has.
StromsDaughter writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 7:03 PM
The Devil
Dick Cheney is the personification of evil. May God have mercy on his soul.
JerryL writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 6:57 PM
re: swampthing
As I said before, all this style of blogging does is get both sides to "dig in their heels and insult each other..."

Swampthing's decided to chime in as example #1, I'm sure they'll be more.
swampthing writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 6:51 PM
Lib Hate/Us: Signal We Be Doin' Right!

»Dean Barnett
Has today become a leftist hate magnet. Pretty good day, Mister! 53 comments and counting! «

As y'know, if a Lib ain't hatin' you, you be doin' somethin' wrong.

Pragmacapitalist writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 6:46 PM
Dean Barnett
Has today become a leftist hate magnet. Pretty good day, Mister! 53 comments and counting!
swampthing writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 6:28 PM
Is JerryL Blonde?

I notice that the Phoenix Coyotes do a lot of skating during a game but not much of anything else. They look busy, like an amateur on the job trying to look busy when he is doing virtually nothing.

JerryL writes a lot of words but says nothing in that post above. All it is is venting. A lotta air.
JerryL writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 6:17 PM
Lame Tired Blogging
Ah yes, the "look at the horrible things the commenters over there are posting" genre of blog post.

Let's face it, this is a pretty stale type of blog post. I admit it's got sort of a brainless, unchallenging entertainment value, but that's about it. I call it the "I can't think of anything interesting to write, so I'll go look for examples of how terrible the other side is" type of post. I know it's not a very catchy name. I'll work on shortening it.

This type of blogging doesn't enlighten anyone, it results in the most predictable sort of comments ("your commenters are worse than my commenters"), all it does is get readers on both sides to dig in their heels and insult each other. Way to contribute to the political debate Mr. Barnett!
swampthing writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 6:13 PM
Where's the Beef?

»Coulter should be indicted for threatening the president...

"Coulter argued that the national debate during the Monica Lewinsky controversy should not have focused on whether former President Bill Clinton "did it," but rather "whether to impeach or assassinate" him."«

Where's the threat? Where is the statement of threat?

JoJo writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 4:45 PM
wextra
What you need to understand, Wex, is that when Dems do it, it's evil, low, shameful, and destructive. When the Reps. do it, it's satire.
wextra writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 4:40 PM
Hilarious "satire" from anti-US GOP
Coulter should be indicted for threatening the president. Call it a punch line if it makes you feel better, but it calls your loyalty to the US into question if you think it's funny. There's no rationale that can excuse it.

"Coulter argued that the national debate during the Monica Lewinsky controversy should not have focused on whether former President Bill Clinton "did it," but rather "whether to impeach or assassinate" him."

More funnies from Ann Coulter, the GOP brain trust...
http://mediamatters.org/items/200608310001?offset=20&show=1
JoJo writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 4:21 PM
Truth teller
Just wanted you to know that your statement has the honor of being added to my favorite townhall posts column.

Cons are so lucky to have you on their side.
swampthing writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 4:12 PM
Marriage of Clinton Convenience

hbp writes: »Hilary a nymphomaniac? LOL i'd be willing to bet any amount I have that she is most likely the opposite. «

Remember, on national teevee, Bill "Bouncin' Off the Oval Office Walls with an Intern" Clinton said, "I did not have sex with THAT woman, Miss Lewinsky!"

He was telling Monica that he did not have sex with his wife.
swampthing writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 4:08 PM
More Dems Id with Kids

...I'll let them go off the deep end and I'll go on doin' what I wanna do anyway.

That's what I like about Dubya's leadership; he listens patiently to the rants and does what he thinks is right and correct. Leadership means having to listen to the babies have a tantrum about the boss' not responding to their every need. In time, they fall asleep. If you respond every time a baby cries, he gets the idea that that is what it takes to get attention, and you gotta put up with it. So, you can't respond seriously to their tantrums.
swampthing writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 4:01 PM
Dems Id with Kids

»Everytime the left says that Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, or pick your conservative commentator, is a radical or an extremist they never point out what makes them so.«

That's cuz members of the Left feel best when they are stompin' on the floor, thrashin' around and holdin' their breaths 'til they turn blue. Facts don't enter into it, just feelin's, and they cannot understand why we don't feel the same, even though we tell them, as you say. They want us to emote, too, and anything less makes us villains. They ain't interested in facts. They's int'rested only in gettin' their way, just like a two-year old. The adults learn to tune them out, for the most part, and that riles the kids more.

It's also just like a rebellious teenager tuning out his parent; but when the parent tunes out the crybaby teen, the kid gets madder than Hell. He doesn't like his BS manipulation techniques being turned on him. Things are tough all over.

When Libs get serious, I'll take them serious. Until then, I just play with them and let 'em get mad.
hbp writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 3:51 PM
CeeCee
Hilary a nymphomaniac? LOL i'd be willing to bet any amount I have that she is most likely the opposite.
El Kabong writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 3:51 PM
Buzz
Is that your name or what you were catching when you wrote your middle school response?
trojan140 writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 3:50 PM
Wexter doesn't know what context is
Wexter, I've read all of the columns that your quotes were taken from. They were taken out of context. Apparently you have not read much of Ann Coulter columns. She uses satire and sarcasm and she uses it better than any left wing columnist could ever dream.
JoJo writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 3:43 PM
Hooray for Truth Teller
TTsaid, "Do us a favor you worthless piece of dog excrement and go be the guest of honor at a single car fatality." Spoken like a true conservative, Truth, proving that all the animosity and ill will is on the left.

I love it when the cons get a chance to feel morally superior - there are so few occasions to get that thrill.

Aren't you the same guys that put out stories about Clinton being a murderer, Hillary being a nymphomaniac, Clinton fathering a black illegitimate baby, Kerry inventing a entire story about his war experiences, etc.

trojan140 writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 3:40 PM
Lefties, bring up some facts please
Everytime the left says that Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, or pick your conservative commentator, is a radical or an extremist they never point out what makes them so.

When conservatives say that Hillary (for example) is a left wing nut job, we point out that she is for universal health care, higher taxes, etc.

So please the next time you call somebody an extremist, radical, or any other name BACK IT UP WITH FACTS!
Pragmacapitalist writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 3:39 PM
Yep, they're angry alright
Angry enough to come here and spew forth, as written about, en masse! Heh. Greetings, kids. Greetings. Do what you do. Carry on.
hbp writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 3:30 PM
i'm still waiting
OK you can quote Coulter if you want but I want to see a link to any comments on Dean's stories where someone conservative makes some over the top comments.

In fact it looks like the liberal haters are the ones making most of the obscene comments.
swampthing writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 3:28 PM
What's Dem Congress Doin' 'Bout It?

»does anyone find it bizarre that on a day that the Dow Jones is down almost 200 points...«

And Dems in control of Congress, too. Tsk, tsk.
swampthing writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 3:24 PM
Committed Libs

»The Liberals seem deeply demented and troubled.«

I hope you're not just now discovering this. How long we've been pointing to the oh-so-obvious signs.
Angryflower writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 3:20 PM
blinders
"DMAC is just another fool, as Ms. Coulter, Mr. Limbaugh have NEVER, EVER, publically hoped, wished for the death of an American."

I laughed at this.
swampthing writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 3:19 PM
Good for the Goose and Gander?

»Dean? Are you listening? Maybe a little fair and balanced? «

Are YOU fair and balanced?
swampthing writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 3:16 PM
Cheney:
...Confident, Decisive, Unpretentious, Unrepentant

»...Dick Cheney... I disagree with many of his policies. I still do not want to see any elected official of the United States harmed. I guess we have to repeat Civics 101, but if you disagree with a poltician, your option is to vote against them. «

That happened. He still won in '04.

The Libs want a wuss in office so they can criticize his being wishy-washy. They hate the Bush/Cheney confidence.

The last thing Libs want in office is a decisive intellect without pretense.
wextra writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 3:09 PM
Bizarre threats from the GOP brain trust
No wonder Americans are disowning the Bush and the right-wing!

* Commenting on radio host Melanie Morgan's assertion that if New York Times executive editor Bill Keller were convicted of treason she "would have no problem with him being sent to the gas chamber," Coulter said, "I prefer a firing squad, but I'm open to a debate on the method of execution." She later suggested that Times staff members should be "executed."

* Coulter said of the media: "Would that it were so! ... That the American military were targeting journalists."

* Coulter suggested that Rep. John P. Murtha (D-PA) is "the reason soldiers invented fragging," -- military slang meaning the intentional killing of a member of one's own unit.

* Coulter argued that the national debate during the Monica Lewinsky controversy should not have focused on whether former President Bill Clinton "did it," but rather "whether to impeach or assassinate" him.

* Coulter said of Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens: "We need somebody to put rat poison in Justice Stevens's créme brulée.''

http://mediamatters.org/items/200608310001?offset=20&show=1
BrianX1979 writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 3:05 PM
Moderate Hick
I want one example from HotAir.com where someone talks about shooting illegals and nuking Mecca...I have been there a while and I have only seen a few people say anything close to that and it was followed by their banning.
cmoore writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 2:50 PM
looks like a democratic problem to me
Its pure entertainment for us conservatives but far from it for liberals...... who have to 1st be elected by then beholden to the likes of those constituents. I too.. am not a big fan of Ann Coulter per say but the sheer volume of Nutroots on the left that clearly HATE rather that just disagree has the potential of creating a much shallower pool of intelligent discourse coming from the left then the right.
navytech writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 2:30 PM
What attack on Cheney?
The explosion at the gate MAY have been a diversionary attack. If so, any actual main attack on Cheney never materialized/was aborted without being detected. But absent any actual attack on Cheney, the otherwise diversionary attack becomes the main event: an attack on men waiting for jobs with the Government coalition. And THAT is something we have seen before. Think horses, not zebras. (having said that, the left just couldn't wait to start drooling again)
Honesty is the best policy writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 2:29 PM
labor lawyer/voice of reason
Good thoughts. I was beginning to think I was the lone voice in pointing out that there are extremists on both sides.
Neither has merit and in my opinion it is up to the adult supervision from their party to call them out when they make these kinds of comments.

hotair.com (and many of the sites it hosts links to) have many "wonderful posts" about shooting illegals and nuking mecca that makes the howling at Hufpo seem eerily similar in the level of hatred.
IMHO the majority of voters are moderate and fall just to the left or right of center. Probably about 60% of voters are in this category.
Whichever party reins in the extremists will be the party that seems more palatable to that group of moderates. Reagan didn't win in landslides because there were that many hard right conservatives -- he appealed to the middle as well.

Dean? Are you listening? Maybe a little fair and balanced? (crickets)
Dawna writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 2:19 PM
making the point
Buzz and DMac, et. al are just making Dean's point. Nice language, there, DMac. Really makes you sound intelligent and someone to get to know. Easy to call someone a piece of dog crap. Have you ever listened to Rush. He's never said anything vile about anyone. He uses satire and their own words to demostrate the folly of their positions, but he doesn't call them pieces of dog crap. And you guys can stop citing Ann Coulter any time. So there is ONE person who maybe crosses the line a bit. Where is it generally found among the larger group of pundits or bloggers or commenters? It isn't. You guys sound like hateful, spoiled little children and like you always have huge chip on your shoulder on just about every post -- even when you are trying to make a reasoned argument about something. You can never resist the name calling and the putdowns. Why are you so insecure and juvenile? I thought you won the election and that everyone in the world now agreed with you. Every liberal I know in my family and the workplace is just like that. No sense of perspective. Big chips on their shoulders. Immature and insecure. And foul mouthed. Always trying to tear someone else down to make themselves feel bigger. Why don't you just grow up? The Democrats are the "baby" party. You can't be graceful in winning or losing. It's always you're a piece of dog crap and I'm not. Wow, does that ever sound like a five year old.
KGK writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 2:08 PM
Kos and assorted nutcases
We know that for nearly 6 years, the hate speech on Lefty blogs, the hate speech from Senators like Durbin, Leahy, reps like Murtha, Jackson-Lee, Barb. Lee, et al have inundated the media. And the MSM has encouraged them.The lefties just cannot remember all that hate because it is their own ideological foundation. Rush read this today. It is sickening. Of course, there are righties who are nuts but books calling for W's or Cheney's deaths have not appeared by righty media or authors when it dealt with liberal pols, even Bubba. Ann C. is a provacateur but does not spread hate; simple truths couched in humor that the Left cannot stand because it is the truth! The continual Kos type blogs , filled with hate still are the majority of the Dem Party's 'feelings' and platforms. Even Kos is holding back from outright hate because they are realizing that it is self-defeating. The Dems lost in 2000-04 and just cannot enjoy their '06 win. It is their whining that is galling and posters above who do not understand that and continue to spread their bile will reap their reward in the next few elections. And yes, the Dems could win in '08 but if they actually implement their losing policies in foreign affairs as well as domestic socialism, they will lose down the line. Even the liberal youth will revolt from their '60's retreads that still spew their hatred after 45 years!
HNAV writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 1:47 PM
pathetic...
What can one expect, from those so filled with bigotry, they cannot celebrate the fall of a monster named Saddam, and want the growing Democracy in Iraq to fall to Radical Militants and Terrorism?

They act as if they could care less about the formerly oppressed, or the future for Millions...

DMAC is just another fool, as Ms. Coulter, Mr. Limbaugh have NEVER, EVER, publically hoped, wished for the death of an American.

The Liberals seem deeply demented and troubled.

For example, this 'Dmac' seems to be projecting the posters insecurity about the posters self, "a loser, a pile of dog crap, idiot, etc."

Perhaps a young, misguided child, lacking a certain amount of decency and self esteem.

It is truly sad...
JohnCar writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 1:47 PM
A comment...
taken from your Victory Caucus, Dean:

(re:Pelosi)
"If we can get rid of her for treason - I would ... Oh I don't know what I would do but it would be damn good! That woman really scare me. If we can get her for treason, then that B!TCH Fonda is next! This is just all too good to even imagine!

Muah hahahaha!!! "

-------

-Kilroy writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 1:44 PM
are we making too much of this?
Reading Huffpo and Pandagon I am pretty much convinced that these posts are the coming from the keyboards of kids, teens and maybe 20 year olds who largely get a kick out of having a forum from which they can spit out language they couldn't get away with from home.

Recently I witnessed my son's 8 year old friend go on to an Online Multiplayer game. It was his first time on such a site and he spend the better part of an hour running his character around and calling the other players "poop-heads" and "pee-heads". He got a huge kick out of it. I think the lefty bloggers are largely the same type of crowd only maybe a bit older. Sure, they think they are angry and think they have something to be angry about. But who at 16 and 17 didn't feel that way. How many 17 year olds don't think they are just about the smartest people in the room? It's just like the 12 year old delinquent that curses adults because he knows, at some level, he'll never be held accountable for his words. "You can't spank me or I'll call the cops and yell child abuse".

Yeah, maybe some of these people are a bit older than teens but isn't that just a case of arrested development? They are the kids who just haven't grown up yet. Their folks paid their tuition and their housing, and they've never really had to act like adults. When they grow up and stop spending their allowance on weed they'll figure out that being a foul mouthed punk isn't really cool, it's just kind of embarrassing.

Buzz writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 1:35 PM
Poor little freepers
Gee talk about whining little right leaning wingnuts. You guys should read some of the vile hatred your own people spew about anyone that is not to the right of Hitler.

Poor widdle wingnuts. Hypocrisy is your middle name. Darth Cheney is responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of innocent human beings. You don't think Chimpy McFlightsuit has the brains to actually figure out to develope war plans do you?

Darth has been the voice behind the throne for years and has enable our dry drunk of a president to think he is God voice on Earth.

All for oil and the war profiteers. Cheney is indeed as evil as Hitler.

Sad little wingnuts.
VoiceOfReason writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 1:26 PM
hbp
Been to LGF lately?

By the way, it looks like the Huntington Post is removing the offensive posts.
hbp writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 1:22 PM
labor lawyer, Jeffrey
Most of the whacked out comments I read on Dean's Blog are not conservative but from libs.

Please point me to a thread where someone has cheered or wished for harm on any Democrat elected official? How about when Johnson went down with a brain ailment, did you see anyone wishing him anything harmful. Maybe some commentary on what would happen if he didn't make it.

In fact i'd like to see a comment on one of Dean's thread that shows a wacked out conservative commentator. Just one, please point us too it.
VoiceOfReason writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 1:19 PM
Spare use the righteous indignation
As Laborlawyer accurate states, both sides have their embarrassing fringe elements. The next time you admonish Ann Coulter or the nuts at LGF, I will be impressed as it will be your first time.

By the way, completely off topic, but does anyone find it bizarre that on a day that the Dow Jones is down almost 200 points, Larry Kudlow over at the Corner is silent on that matter but is talking about Guliani's conservative take on the markets?
flenser writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 1:17 PM
HuffPo
Unlike some blogs (this one, for example) HuffPo moderates its comments. In order for a comment to appear it must first be approved by a moderator.

Think on that for a moment, and on what it means for the excuse that these sentiments are only those of some anonymous commenters.

Arizona Mike writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 1:03 PM
HufPo Self-Censoring
It was up to 15 pages of comments when I started reading. It is now 12 pages as of 11:00 MST. How low will it go?
Jeffrey writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 12:54 PM
LaborLawyer
I quoted you at my blog today in response to Dean's poor exercise in judgment at defining the Left by the annonymous comment pool of a blog post. Good show.

Jeffrey
http://www.idolator.net
laborlawyer writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 12:37 PM
Yeah, right Dean
So, you're judging blogs not by the blog posts, but by the comment threads? Brother, if that's your standard, have you ever read the comments posted here? Like any other blog that takes comments, you've got a mix of sensible folks with some totally whacked-out right wing nuts. (HuffPost's comment mix is the same, only the mix is sensible folks and left-wing nuts.) Just post something, anything about Hillary, Kerry or Murtha here and watch the natives go crazy.

A man would be a fool to judge the general level of conservative discourse here on Townhall based on comment threads rather than the columns and articles, and the same is true over at HuffPost. Thought you were smarter than that, Dean.
Comrade Major  writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 12:20 PM
If I were a saboteur...
...which I'm not, but if I were, and taking the advice that whoever can keep their fringe in line will retain power, I would spend the very little free time I have establishing myself as the very epitome of leftist drivel on the looney left blabbosphere--almost like The People's Cube, but done completely straight.

I would draw in the most enraged and irrational Marxists into prolonged diatribes; but the key is to ensure the blog host tacitly endorses my rantings, no matter how hostile. I would urge them to do the most (self) destructive things possible to ensure that it gets out into the mainstream.

To win, you gotta play for keeps. This applies to politics, war, office politics, etc.
Al writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 11:55 AM
fascist left?
The hatred that's becoming the accepted norm on the left is disturbing enough. It chills the blood to read the reactions from the nutty lefties on the possible assassination of our vice president - put an arabic accent on some of these posts and you could fool me as to where they're coming from. Who needs enemies with "friends" like these?! Just as disturbing is the undercurrent of racism in the democrat party that's being accepted as the norm. Comments being made by their politicians that are just brushed off and ignored simply because they're "democrat" statements. The poor mush-for-brains that are being brainwashed by the left into accepting any racist or hateful behaviour as long as it advances their causes. These postings are a very scary indication of what's to come.
ScottG writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 11:45 AM
spittle flecked left
"Keep talking, keep writing - the more the country sees this, the more the country will see what a pathetic lot the extreme Left has become."

Who says anyone will see this? Do you see any of their rantings on the news? Most people still get their information from the Networks. These hateful people will not be exposed to anyone except the internet savvy.

Forget it. We can't win hoping America will get a clue about the haters who direct the Democrat party. Their leadership is filled with those who care only for power. We have to articulate our own positions and hope enough people see the truth. Don't wait for a Deus ex machina to save this country.
brentwood writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 11:36 AM
Don't be surprised any more..
That theory is being floated around already - just another ploy to cement his power, keep us sheeple scared.

Keep showing your colors, please.
IfAFrogHadWings writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 11:35 AM
bad fruit
Profanity-laced angry-lefty rants (that I try to avoid if possible) usually make me think of this:

"You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit." --Matthew 7:16
Pragmacapitalist writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 11:25 AM
The only thing that surprises me...
The radical left is so bummed/angry that Cheney is still alive, they've missed a perfect chance to weave a new conspiracy theory about how Cheney/Bush staged the attempted hit themselves, in an effort to feign the "perceived threat of islamic terror".

What are the left thinking? Wow, they've really taken their eyes off the ball. It's a little disappointing, really.


Comrade Major  writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 11:01 AM
And When Libby Gets Acquitted....
...there's going to be a spate of destroyed keyboards, fractured monitors, and kicked CPUs around the leftist blabbosphere. I wonder how they can see the computer screens through their spittle.

Maybe those Marxists can take comfort in seeing the stock market take a dive today. Capitalist lackeys!

God forbid if something happens to Cheney--the Senate will block any potential replacement, and then the long knives will come out for Bush. What perilous times indeed.
Joe writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 10:59 AM
Oh and for your nutrooters out there
I am no fan of Dick Cheney. I disagree with many of his policies. I still do not want to see any elected official of the United States harmed. I guess we have to repeat Civics 101, but if you disagree with a poltician, your option is to vote against them.
brentwood writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 10:48 AM
Because the more you know...
The Huffington Post should be mandatory reading for the Left and Right, as the cited posts show what the Right is up against and what the Left is becoming.

Support for the assassination of a sitting VP? I would say that's an all time low, but the bar is really much lower that that.

Comparisons to the attempt on Hitler? At least that's in keeping with the Left's fascination with all things Nazi.

Keep talking, keep writing - the more the country sees this, the more the country will see what a pathetic lot the extreme Left has become. Eventually, they will have to become a pariah to any serious candidate.

If there is still a moderate Left, this bile needs to awaken them; your fringe is really moving into something more than spirited debate.
Joe writes: Tuesday, February, 27, 2007 10:44 AM
Idiots
It scares me that this bunch of nutroots could have an influence on foreign policy, but it also gives the GOP the chance to not lose in 2008.

Medved said this and I believe it is true--the party who can best control its lunatic fringe will will the general presidential election. Evidence like this makes me think the GOP chances are pretty good.
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