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Friday, May 30, 2008
"Pew Also Found That Among Self-Described Clinton Supporters, The Negative Shift Against Obama Is More Severe Among Women Than Among Men."
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 8:44 AM
The Politico.com story on the anger towards Obama among Clinton supporters doesn't mention Obama's radical friends like Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayes and Bernadine Dohrn and now Father Pfleger, and it doesn't mention Michelle Obama's outrageous rhetoric either.  It does quote GOP pollster Kellyanne Conway:

These women have two issues at the top of their agenda that require experience and reasonableness—war and economy,” Conway said. “For many of these women, when they hear Barack Obama talk about change they hear revolution, not incrementalism.
 

My emphasis, but this is the background noise that has grown in volume week to week behind Obama, and the Pfleger video from Memorial Weekend Sunday Services at Obama's own church and the reaction to it from Obama's fellow parishioners for 20 years is going to further unsettle an already suspicious segment of the Democratic Party base that does value mocking Hillary and doesn't believe they owe reparations for wrongs done to African-Americans decades before they were born.

The DNC Rules Committee has plenty of reasons to punt to the Credentials Committee tomorrow, thus keeping the opening available to push the increasingly radioactive Obama to the sidelines.





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ScarletPimpernel writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 9:15 AM
I thought Dem/libs
were all caring and all compassionate and all tolerant. Huh. Guess that race/class/sex war strategy sometimes causes problems. Well, I'm sure it's some mean ol' conservative's fault.
richard_223 writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 9:19 AM
This is Going to Leave a Mark
Like all of us, Hillary is a child of God, whatever her politics, so why is God's representative on earth, this priest, mocking her from the pulpit?

More of Obama's chickens coming home to roost.
terri writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 9:22 AM
I Dunno
I just can't help but sit back and laugh my head off at the Democrats fighting between their two causes: race and women. It just provides endless amusement.
ScarletPimpernel writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 9:31 AM
2 Cor 12-15
12And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. 13For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. 15It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
Joe writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 10:03 AM
Why are so called conservatives
helping Barack Obama?
Dustoff-507 writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 10:20 AM
So another Obama preacher
Is saying that American rapes Black people over & over.

Can we please question what Obama believes now!
clarityseeker writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 10:24 AM
BJob...The RACE-BAITER...
On the thread, "The Obama Melt", at 9:01 AM this past Tuesday, this RACE-BAITER wrote another of her obscene and regular HATE-PEDDLING, vacuuous, ad hominem attacks:

"...But you can't deal with the concept of a hyper-intelligent Black man, can you cons? Can't even accept the fact that, if he was not running for office, he would probably be on a short list for the federal court of appeals, the Supreme Court, or the Justice department."



And we won't receive a retraction----for the very reason that BJob wants very badly for this election to be one of only race, rather than one on the radical Leftist ideals of her candidate, Obama.

BJob, the consummate OBSCENE, HATE-PEDDLING, RACE-BAITER.

footnote:
highly predictable that no other spineless Liberals, Leftists have repudiated this immature weasel.
laborlawyer writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 10:51 AM
More political prognostication......
....from Mr. "Romney Rising".

I love it!

:)
laborlawyer writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 10:55 AM
Clarity
http://www.minddisorders.com/Ob-Ps/Obsession.html

:)
Dustoff-507 writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 11:04 AM
Obama
Man it sure is getting very busy under that obama bus.

Just how many more can he throw under it.

Yet he's our hope. What hope of a racist prez and his followers?
Dread writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 11:08 AM
I'm sure...
The Democrats will thank you for your concern trolling, and not at all imagine you salivating at the chance to fight Bill by proxy again and drag up all the old Clinton classics from the 90's.
NeoConScum writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 11:41 AM
"I love the smell of teargas in the..
morning. It smells...like...Denver!"

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, yesssssssssss...!
Joe writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 12:36 PM
Meet the new Barry Goldwater
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13294

There is a difference between John McCain and Barack Obama. If you are a true conservative, you do not want to elect Barack Obama.
clarityseeker writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 12:57 PM
LafferLawyer
I'm not sure you want to address issues of "disorders".
Or, do you?
KGK writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 1:26 PM
This news should spur....
This news is exactly why the House and Senate candidates should have a new Contract for America ala the Sean or Newt suggestions. There are many conservatives waiting for it and even though they may finally vote for ole John, getting the female, Reagan Dem, and BASE vote for our Congressional candidates would stop the slaughter that everyone is prophesizing in Nov. After all these desparate groups see the Obama YOUTUBE pacifist anti-Nuke, disarmament seminar that he gave in 2007. It will really worry not only females but even Sam Nunn type Dems!
ScarletPimpernel writes: Friday, May, 30, 2008 1:35 PM
Joe, true cons
would never run McCain. McCain is your problem. He is helping the Dem/libs just as he has been for at least 8 years. If he'll kindly step aside then I would vote Repub again.

OR if

He cries. Says he's sorry for being an a-hole and undermining the party and picks someone like Hunter then I, and many millions of other cons would vote for him.

laborlawyer writes: Saturday, May, 31, 2008 3:24 AM
clarityseeker
Hmmm, not sure what to make of your rsponse to my little joke concerning your obsession with Brob. Yes, it's no secret I have a degenerative neurological disorder. Is it that you don't understand when someone's sending a bit of gentle fun your way? I'm just saying, lighten up, you're starting to look like Inspector Javert chasing Jean Valjean.

With a self-proclaimed Christian posting about how much fun it would be to beat up liberals, I hardly think Brob's ruminations on supposed conservative racial animus are worth the effort. I mean, if you know in your heart that you oppose Obama for his politics and not his race, why would false claims to the contrary bother you? A false allegation only reflects poorly on the one making it, not on the one against whom it is made.

I mean, I know I'm not a "liar", so you (and OHM too) can call me that 'til the cows come home and it won't make it any more true, it just reflects badly on you. So if you aren't a racist- and I see no evidence you are- Brob and not you comes out looking bad for making the claim. OTOH your incessant counter-attacks, name-calling, and personalization only make it seem like the accusation hit home.
clarityseeker writes: Saturday, May, 31, 2008 1:07 PM
LafferLawyer
And now you allege---no accuse me of that which I would offer up as examples of your own little, "mind disorders".
Wrong again, brief-case-breath. I would have started with:

*Your delusional willingness to ascribe responsibility to every conservative Townhall poster for the racially charged comments of two (S/86 and Amerigerous). Even when I declared my distaste for same, it meant nothing to you---you make related sweeping judgements of the Townhall site. Indeed a mind disorder.

*The myriad race-baiting posts of BJob have NEVER elicited a single repudiation from the likes of you. But, those are your rules, established by you, lived by you, and oh so hypocritical, given the prolonged bleating of you over others. Even this morning---you took umbrage to teh word, "gook", by a poster. But Bjob's race-baiting---NOTHING.

*Your obsession with the notion that post-Northridge earthquake (1994) in California was single-handedly the credit of unionized labor. Pathetic.

These are merely three.
laborlawyer writes: Saturday, May, 31, 2008 3:31 PM
Clarityseeker- Inspector Javert lives!
Your continued personalization and tantrum-throwing are kind of sad.

Brob made a false allegation about you. It reflects badly on her. Your responses reflect
badly on you.

The union thing is your obsession, not mine. It has been months since I agreed that I made a rhetorical overstatement and clarified my remark to refer to major projects such as the fast rebuilding of the Santa Monica Freeway. Yet you persist on bringing this up again and again.
one hot minute writes: Saturday, May, 31, 2008 3:45 PM
in defense of Clarityseeker

Laborlawyer wrote;
---------------
"The union thing is your obsession, not mine. It has been months since I agreed that I made a rhetorical overstatement and clarified my remark to refer to major projects such as the fast rebuilding of the Santa Monica Freeway. Yet you persist on bringing this up again and again."
---------------

Mr. Laborlawyer,

I feel I must defend Clarityseeker in this disagreement between the two of you, since I was a witness to the thread regarding the unions and the rebuilding projects.

Fact is, Laborlawyer, you were not guilty of a "rhetorical overstatement" as you claim.

Rather, you were guilty of mis-stating the facts.

In other words, you didn't err on rhetoric---you erred on the facts.

The reason that Clarityseeker continues to bring up this issue, is because you often boast how you believe you are a paragon of truth and civility, all the while you accuse us all of lacking fidelity to truth, being incivil, and not wanting to have adult conversations about substantive issues.

Indeed, as his Townhall monniker suggests, Clarityseeker seeks clarity.
Pasadena Phil writes: Saturday, May, 31, 2008 4:05 PM
Why is it.....
that you RINOs won't believe us conservatives when we say that we are going to vote against the one-party system but believe the libs when they say they will vote for McCain? Why do you assume that conservatives will eventually hold their noses and reluctantly vote Republican but that the Dems won't do the same? You can't just say that without explaining why. My bet is that it is much more likely that the Hillary voters will eventually vote for Obama than it is that conservatives will vote for either because conservatives are much more upset than Dem women.
clarityseeker writes: Saturday, May, 31, 2008 4:51 PM
One Hot Minute, my friend...
Love to buy you a beer, either the distilled or sweet root version, your choice.

By jeeeeeeeeeeeepers, son, regardless whether you agree with me or not-----DUDE, you get it with this LafferLawyer, as always suspected.

He knew EXACTLY what he was saying by entirely mis-representing his clients.
EXACTLY!
And only after a couple of months of hitting him over the head with FACTS did he finally make some cheap-a$$ excuse about "rhetorical overstatement".

About that beer.
I can be in Denver during the DNC. Should you intend on being anywhere near those clunkheads, I'll consider it.
Or, perhaps that other Liberal hellhole, so Cal.?
one hot minute writes: Saturday, May, 31, 2008 6:04 PM
follow up for Clarityseeker

Clarity,

I recall that thread about the labor unions and rebuilding projects.
You were correct---and our pal Laborlawyer is ducking the truth as if he were playing a game of dodge ball.

Truth is, the Laborlawyer very often attempts to squash facts and confuse issues.
How often has he strategically misappropriated what we have written, in order to enable himself to knock down a straw man ?

I don't believe Laborlawyer would ever make it in the produce business due to the fact that he has so much difficulty comparing apples to apples.

I likely will not be in Denver for the Ringling Brothers, Barnum & Bailey Circus formerly known as the DNC, but if my schedule changes, I'll let you know so we can grab that beer.
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