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Wednesday, September 03, 2008
Peggy Noonan, Mike Murphy Caught on Tape Disparaging Palin
Posted by: Matt Lewis at 6:10 PM

After an interview on MSNBC, The Wall Street Journal's Peggy Noonan was overheard saying:  "It's over," in refrence to Sarah Palin.

When MSNBC's Chuck Todd asked her if Palin was the qualified woman the Republicans could nominate, and Noonan responded, "The most qualified? No. I think they went for this, excuse me, political bullshit about narratives. Every time the Republicans do that, because that's not where they live and that's not what they're good at, they blow it."

This, of course, is doubly damaging to Noonan -- who just this morning authored a fairly positive opinion piece on Palin, which certainly did not reflect her true views.

Meanwhile, GOP strategist Mike Murphy referred to the decision to pick Palin as"cynical" and "gimmicky."

Here's the video ...



I think what you have here is three media elites more comfortable with the Georgetown cocktail set than with average Americans. That's why they don't get Sarah Palin -- or her appeal...



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don writes: Saturday, September, 06, 2008 1:05 AM
PEGGY HUFFINGTON
For about two years Noonan has been drifting to the dark side of opinion because of a holier then the rest us attitude, meant to please her peers in the main stream media. I would not be surprised to see her pop up with an article on the Huffington Post.
Mark writes: Friday, September, 05, 2008 9:05 PM
How ironic!
As it turns out, the Republicans would actually have a better chance of winning if Palin was at the top of the ticket!

I'm more worried about McCain dragging this whole thing down.
NEConservative writes: Friday, September, 05, 2008 6:40 PM
Absolutely, they don't get her
Because she is the real deal America. That's why she is so refreshing to us, and so my boggling to them.(media and liberals).
my2centsplus writes: Friday, September, 05, 2008 2:26 AM
I will never vote for a cult member
Which is just another reason I cannot suppor the McCain Palin ticket. Pali is assembly of God. CULT big time. McCain? Which way i the wind blowing tonight? Palins preacher where her 'family' have attended most of Palins adult life is nutcase as bad as Obama's. Except a lot more dangerous. Too many rednecks for my blood. To many cult members in the GOP. I'm gone, and won't be back until the bigots and cultists of the evanglical wing are GO"NE!
my2centsplus writes: Friday, September, 05, 2008 2:21 AM
I don't want McCain, and not palin eithe
I'm a conservative woman who wants her party BACK. time go wander for a season. Get our collective act toeghter. I don't like Palin, her pretend 'values' (not mine, thank you very much) and I don't like her new 'boss'. In fact, he's the sinker (or stinker).

No bounce. We did this to ourselves.
Dredd writes: Thursday, September, 04, 2008 11:10 PM
No Surprises Here
It is no surprise that Republican establishment types like these would have trouble with Gov. Palin, for reasons similar to those of teh media establishment. She isn't one of them.

As for the polls, they are in fact bouncing even as we speak. The latest CBS poll shows the two sides neck-and-neck after teh Democtrats bounce last week. Here's the link:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/opinion/polls/mai n4416798.shtml
B2slim writes: Thursday, September, 04, 2008 10:11 PM
SHE needs to be "PALIN" not REAGAN !

Sarah has a right to just be PALIN:

she does not need to bend over to try to be Reagan: she is just fine as she is: exceptional in fact

OBAMA keeps trying to be JFK, well that arrogant loser is not even a hair on the head of JFK:

PEGGY has had a chip on her shoulder for way too long::::::::::: she was good in her time warp: but has been a total loser for 10 years;

she needs to go lay down by her dish:
B2slim writes: Thursday, September, 04, 2008 10:07 PM
PEGGY::: the "HAS BEEN" jealous

Peggy has been a "HAS BEEN" for so long:
Now she is so Jealous

LISTEN::::::::::::::::::::::::why does anyone have to be REAGAN:

WHY can't they be themselves: PALIN::::::::;;

go through History: all of the really great people where THEMSELVES::::::::::::not someone else:

Obama thinks he is JFK, will never work:
we knew JFK and Obama is not even close to being anything like a JFK !
Capn Fishbreath Armpit writes: Thursday, September, 04, 2008 10:02 PM
oops - Mikey, not Marky
but who cares.
Remember the important thing:
B.O. offends.

And McCain/Palin is not B.O./hairplugboy.

That's all you need to know.
America first.
Capn Fishbreath Armpit writes: Thursday, September, 04, 2008 9:58 PM
Feelin' guilty feelin' scared
hidden cameras everywhere!

(now, do the air guitar riff
da-danh da-danh da-dada-da-danh
just like The Kinks on your AM radio
cruising around town with your goofy friends back in the day on cheap gas in daddy's car)

Oh, yeah, my op-ed piece:
Memo to Peggy and Marky-
Better assume you're always being recorded - even a punk with a cell phone can spy on you then put your gaffe on YouTube.
In this case - you've no excuse. You knew the cameras and mics were there.
Tea Party writes: Thursday, September, 04, 2008 4:53 PM
Well
several of you have echoed my opinion of Peggy;
Photogbill you put into words what I have thought about her, as well as SandMan.

I always thought her writing was just too sugary to be true. At times, whenever I read her
I was on the verge of an insulin shock.

You know, I could be wrong, but perhaps she
was prepared for "such a time as this" we don't know but it is telling the elites on both sides have their knickers in a twist. There is something about her. (for you Godhaters, "such a time as this" refers to mordicai's admonition to Queen Esther..letme see how this comment will get
twisted.)
MaryStella writes: Thursday, September, 04, 2008 2:38 PM
Country Club Snob, Elite
I guess, you are counting, yourself, amoung them too, Orgeon Elephant.
No one really cares?
Peggy changed a long time ago.
For now she likes to be the like-able Socialite by both side.
When President Bush was popular, she sang praises of him, his poll numbers went down, she became vicious.
She is fair-weather Peggy!
Worse, she took advantage of John Paul II, popularity, and wrote book about him, basking herself all over Catholic TV.
Katharina  writes: Thursday, September, 04, 2008 2:26 PM
Respect for the Media???
Last night, Saracuda said, she is not going to DC to please the media or commentators but to serve the American public. Now, Peggy and Mike have been in the GOP orbit for years. Perhaps too long. As far as I am concerned, who cares nowadays what the media thinks? We know by a huge 85% the media votes Dem-liberal whatever. We also know, about 85% of that same media doens't believe in the Biblical God. So, who cares what these people write or think or say? My hubby is 70. He has been blogging on our blog for 3 years, kgkkaty.blogtownhall.com and remembers the Speech by Reagan. Noonan also helped write speeches for Reagan. Peg has been in the Beltway too long. Sarah is a feminine populist Ronnie!
mlund writes: Thursday, September, 04, 2008 1:58 PM
A great job
Palin's speech did exactly what a Vice President's acceptance speech is supposed to do - introduce the VP, talk up the Presidential Candidate, and pick apart the rival party's ticket.

The VP's acceptance speech is NOT supposed to upstage the Presidential Candidate's voice on things like foreign policy, border enforcement, supreme court appointments, and the like - unless, of course, your ticket is upside down and you have an completely unqualified, inexperienced hack politician on topic (like Barrack Obama) and the seasoned, sleazy political hack on bottom (like Joe Biden).
Right Makes Might writes: Thursday, September, 04, 2008 1:51 PM
Noonan's priorities
As you read Noonan’s “explanation”, (thank you, USAconservativemom) you notice that her complaint is that she thinks the country is not as conservative as in 1988 or ’94, and therefore a true-blue conservative as VP is politically suicidal.

Two things about that: 1 – Clearly, Peggy Noonan doesn’t believe in causes. Her angle is to get as many Republicans elected as possible, no matter how foul their beliefs. 2 – If she thinks our cause is dead, or even in poor health, has she got a rude awakening in store.
dasche writes: Thursday, September, 04, 2008 10:12 AM
Palin
Palin is the best choice, with the best chance to
vanquish the dreaded Democratic Machine
LauraG writes: Thursday, September, 04, 2008 9:27 AM
Sarah's youngest daughter
Did anyone happen to notice Sarah's youngest daughter licking her whole hand to smooth down the baby's hair? I thought that was the funniest thing I ever saw; and so endearing.
LauraG writes: Thursday, September, 04, 2008 9:21 AM
PC: As I scroll through looking
for any negative posts about Palin
I CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON SEEING ONE FROM YOU!

Man you are the sorest loser I have ever "read."

In older posts you have said that huckabee lost and should "get over it and support the party."

"Are YOU big enough to practice what you preach?"
Romney lost - get over it!
tedmug writes: Thursday, September, 04, 2008 8:46 AM
Peggy Noonan
I used to like Peggy Noonan. But, "it's over."
Mark writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 11:36 PM
I never liked Peggy
And if you think I'm just kickin' her when she's down, I think Newt is disengenuous too and will be proved as such someday. He already has showed what an opportunist he is by teaming up with Mrs. Bill Clinton in the past and his recent shilling for the "manmade global climate change" hoax. It was refreshing to see him rip on that vacuous little floor reporter though.

Here's to the new sport of shooting liberals in a barrel. The barrel being their, until now NEVER challenged, mentality of puking up the mornings lapped up lib talking points. Oh yeah and, peggy noonan bites.
SandMan writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 10:37 PM
HeavyDoug
You need to go on a mental diet, fathead.

No one but a frickin idiot would fall into the trap of calling out Palin for suppsed deficiencies that would apply doubly to their own PRESIDENTIAL candidate.

It's people like you who give me hope for a Republican victory in November. Maybe I am just being wishful, but I still cannot believe that fools like yourself constitute a majority in this country.
heavydoug writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 10:28 PM
How does it feel ?
http://www.politicalbase.com/profile/Mark%20Nickolas/blog/& blogId=3540

You are toast and don't even know it.


Following reckless leaders is stupid
heavydoug writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 10:23 PM
There's no Santa either Repubs.
Sticking your head in the sand leaves your rear exposed.

You didn't get a sufficent hosing from Bush?

Why don't you stand up and start thinking?
angel66 writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 10:02 PM
Media Elites Love the Enquirer
Like Jonah Goldberg when they the GOP dirty work:

"It's worth pointing out that while the Enquirer may or may not be scrupulous in its choice of stories — that's in the eye of the beholder — it is pretty scrupulous about its facts. They win lawsuits. They've broken a host of stories the MSM guys couldn't."
Virginia Patriot writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 9:59 PM
Refreshing Honesty
I like what little I know of Sarah Palin, but is she really ready? I don't think so.

Palin does not change McCain anyway. He's still stuck on stupid (amnesty).
Paragrouper writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 9:58 PM
HeavyDoug
We absolutely would love intense scrutiny on the presidential candidates. Lets start with Obama, since the MSM has completely ignored his past associations with the likes of Wright, Ayers and Rezko.

Whay don't you put the crack pipe down and give it a rest?
SandMan writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 9:54 PM
Noonan and Murphy Revealed
I don't know (or care) much about Murphy. Noonan, I have read and followed since Reagan made her (professionally speaking, of course).

I am disappointed, though not entirely surprised, at her unguarded remarks. They reveal more about her own vanities and sense of entitlement, than they do about Palin's supposed deficiencies.

You see, Noonan came up the hard way. She was the chain smoking gal who crashed into the all male party and earned their (supposed) grudging respect after having ground it out after years of hard work, dismissal and abuse.

Now comes Palin, the Beauty Pageant Queen, gliding in on her little fairy tale unicorn to the conservative party. Well, I think you can fill in the rest for yourselves...

You disappoint me Noonan. I thought you actually were the real deal. Instead, you reveal yourself as being nothing more than the typical self-interested climber - eager to grab whatever limb appears to be the best bet for YOUR elevation, but only too quick to saw the limbs off after yourself to ensure no one but yourself gets to the top.
Serina writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 9:54 PM
and Heavydoug..

get a life..
Serina writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 9:43 PM
get over it, Peggy..

Personally, I was hoping for Mitt Romney..but it is a McCain~Palin ticket, now..
I knew of Sarah Palin and the great job she was doing as Gov of Alaska..her ongoing fight to give us access to our own oil in ANWR, and her commendable, consistent pro-life convictions, even while knowing that she & her husband were to give birth to a baby with a disability.

As for the experience excuse.. VP Palin has more in time and qualifying experience, including executive experience than the dem Prez candidate has.. even some "foreign" policy experience, considering Alaska's neighbors are Russia and Canada. Her state has unique & significant security, trade, and energy issues.

The Elitist-socialists, Obama and his trial loyya, Biden the longtime Beltway Insider, wouldn't have a clue..
McCain~Palin is the "Change" that McGovernesque Obama-Biden can't deliver..
heavydoug writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 9:39 PM
SUCKERS!
http://www.politicalbase.com/profile/Mark%20Nickolas/blog/& blogId=3540

Headline:CHARLIE BROWN REPUBS FALL FOR THE OLD MOVE THE FOOTBALL TRICK...AGAIN?

You'll Never Learn.
Rocky Mt Hi writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 9:39 PM
Gender bias doubtful
Sometimes the truth has to find a unique way into the public domain. I doubt anyone seriously believes much of what the pundits say, especially when they all use the same words=talking points.
If the McCain team cries foul with gender bias everytime something they did not vet comes to light, they will look foolish. You can't paint a portrait of a pistol packin' mama and not expect to get hit with a few arrows. They tout her maverick nature, but want Biden to "go easy" because she is a woman. Any true feminist would stand toe to toe with their opponent, and ask for their best shot. If Sarah wants to play in the national league, she will have to play by the same rules as everyone.
Perceptor II writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 9:18 PM
What people who really know Palin think
Recent opinoin poll of Alaskans about their governor:

Favorable/Unfavorable: 86%/10%
Strongly Approve: 63%
Approval Among Republicans: 97%
Approval Among Democrats: 75%

http://race42008.com/2008/09/03/this-just-in-alaska-loves-g ov-palin/
Karen writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 9:05 PM
Their out of touch!!!
These 3 need to go to the Gong Show cause they have a really bad act!!!
stormie writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 9:01 PM
straight from the peanut gallery
Even Noonan doesn't think Palin was a smart pick - she must be a lib. Hah.

photogbill writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 8:49 PM
Listening to that video clip ...
... leaves no doubt why someone like Sarah will be a breath of fresh air in that cesspool called Washington DC!

It'll be great fun when the McCain/Palin team wins the election. DC will have to declare a national emergency due to an epidemic outbreak in nose-bleeds ... from all those pompous name-dropping, alma mater bragging, superficial, snobs of both parties in Washington.

Pomp and circumstance ...meet ordinary American Sarah! I bet you arroganr hypocrites will be the first in line when 'Cinderella' Sarah is the belle of the ball!
USAconservativemom writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 8:45 PM
Peggy Noonan's explanation
One of the paragraph's from her National Review article. Bloggers please pay attention to the last sentence.

Within three hours I was receiving it from friends far and wide, asking me why I thought the McCain campaign is "over", as it says in the transcript of the conversation. Here I must plead some confusion. In our off-air conversation, I got on the subject of the leaders of the Republican party assuming, now, that whatever the base of the Republican party thinks is what America thinks. I made the case that this is no longer true, that party leaders seem to me stuck in the assumptions of 1988 and 1994, the assumptions that reigned when they were young and coming up. "The first lesson they learned is the one they remember," I said to Todd -- and I'm pretty certain that is a direct quote. But, I argued, that's over, those assumptions are yesterday, the party can no longer assume that its base is utterly in line with the thinking of the American people. And when I said, "It's over!" -- and I said it more than once -- that is what I was referring to. I am pretty certain that is exactly what Todd and Murphy understood I was referring to. In the truncated version of the conversation, on the Web, it appears I am saying the McCain campaign is over. I did not say it, and do not think it. In fact, at an on-the-record press symposium on the campaign on Monday, when all of those on the panel were pressed to predict who would win, I said that I didn't know, but that we just might find "This IS a country for old men." That is, McCain may well win. I do not think the campaign is over, I do not think this is settled, and did not suggest, back to the Todd-Murphy conversation, that "It's over."
photogbill writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 8:37 PM
RJ and JAAK
You both nailed it. Peggy Noonan IS ... and always has been a pompous, elitist snob ... in love with her own speaking/writing ability!

So a couple of you have liked her? eh? ... for what? ... her air of superiority! ?You gotta be kidding me! All the average, non-ivy league elitist snob needs to do is listen to her for 5 minutes ... to come to that conclusion.

She can write a good speech ... like the ones she helped write for Ronald Reagan ... but when the she didn't know the camera's were rolling. her elitist attitude shined through the veneer!

And .... by the way, Reagan speech writer or not, she's always come off as a snob to me!

Diane writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 8:33 PM
Noonan has responded
Peggy Noonan has written a response to this. It is available on national review online.
Perceptor II writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 8:11 PM
ZOMG!
"Proof that Republicans hate Palin! We've found TWO!"

Sarah Palin was picked because she is a formidable public servant. In her short career she has blown the whistle on corruption that came from her own party, rooted out corruption in the government and negotiated with Canada to allow a natural gas pipeline to go through their territory. She enjoys the highest approval rating of any governor in the country at 86%, and 90% of Alaskans say she is capable of being the Vice President. I have know about her for over a year, and knew even before this election began in earnest that she was headed toward bigger and better things, and I am thrilled with John McCain for having the wisdom to consider the quality of her experience, not just the quantity.
kal writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 8:02 PM
LOLOLOLOL
Oh, this is RICH!!!

It certainly is over.
Perceptor II writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 7:59 PM
ReadABook
"Republican Barbie"

Sexist.
Trampling out the vintage writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 7:36 PM
Pundits and MSM don't understand.
This is going to be fun to see thier disbelief and confusion. Seeing them angry only supports the idea that they don't get it.
PC writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 7:35 PM
Palin has a thin record
She done a few great things, and a few boneheaded things, but her record can be written on one page. Why does everyone already assume she's the savior of the party.

Her selection was a gimmick. And it's been played to the hilt. I mean, she can kill and skin a moose for crying out loud! Beauty queen, point guard, reformer, tough girl, Supermom, etc.

What about her record and statements? You can be sure the left is ready to unload next week. She said the Iraq war was about oil and that God is in favor of it. She was before the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. She was a big ear-mark mayor who left Wasilla (city of only 9,000) in debt to the tune of 20 mil.

There's plenty of material. But she's Reagan, Thatcher and SuperWoman, so she can handle it.

(Kinda reminds me of the Fred hype. All hat, no cattle.)
heavydoug writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 7:34 PM
Palin's a nutcase!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H-btXPfhGs


A religious fanatic. Boy does McCain's judgement fall flat.
PC writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 7:29 PM
Palin doesn't appeal to everyone
Noonan just might be right. No one knows how this is going to play out yet. So what if her personal comments are tougher on Palin than her writing. It's good to be gracious, especially when your country is at stake.

Is there any evidence that Palin appeals to defense and economic conservatives as well as to the evangelical base? I haven't seen it.

Heaven forbid someone speak the naked truth about the great Palin who is Reagan and Thather all rolled up into one lovable little Supermom!

Or not.

1udagudguys writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 7:25 PM
polls lag, let Palin speak
There is always a lag between events and poll numbers they affect. That's why the "dailies" during the Dem convention didn't show a "bounce" until late in the week.

Amazing how some are writing Palin off before she even speaks. People who have been following her for more than the last week seem to have a much higher opinion of her. Other than the corrupt political hacks she displaced in Alaska, that is.

Why don't we wait until she has a chance to speak this evening before writing her off as a gimmick?

As Garth said in Wayne's World, "We fear change." Palin is definitely a change.

JAAK writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 7:15 PM
Noona/Murphy
Sara Palin: lives and confronts politics.

Peggy Noonan: wraps words around others ideas and politics.

Sara Palin: thinks and acts.

Peggy Noonan: thinks about other's acts.

Sara Palin: symbol of real feminism.

Peggy Noonan: symbol for blond hair rinse.

Sara Palin: mother, mayor, governor, VP candidate.

Peggy Noonan: twit!

RJ writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 7:14 PM
Transparent jealousy
Palin was a brilliant pick by McCain, and just because she brings a non-traditional political advantage to the table, they want to call it "gimmicky"??

Give me a break, you sexist btch. Get over your jealousy and just accept that she brings a lot to the table you can't acknowledge.

Or is Peggy also going to say the choice of a black Presidential nominee was "gimmicky" because he secures the black vote?
John writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 7:08 PM
Oregon Elephant

You wrote,

"There's been no "bounce" at all in the polls from the Palin pick. Actually the polls are moving towards Obama."


Gee - ya think after 4 days of the Media-crooning Obama-fest ending with the Bejing Fireworks show, Obama would get a 10-point bounce?

Palin's announcement blunted Obama's post convention coverage and bounce (5-8 point bounce only).

What you fail to realize is the enthusiasm generated on the right by the nomination of Palin. Many luke-warm McCain supporters have jumped in with both feet.

The MOST common mistake made by the critics of Palin.......

Underestimating her!

Let the chorus of media & political naysayers continue their howling. Gov Palin and John McCain will speak directly to the American people to make their case.

(Think - Saddleback Forum - how McCain wiped the floor with Obama)
Dr_B writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 6:58 PM
This pick was sloppy
And it's becoming obvious.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0908/Palin_was nt_interviewed_by_vetter_until_day_before_offer.html#commen ts
Joe writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 6:58 PM
As Jerry Seinfeild used to say:
Noonan.

Okay, he said Newman. But Noonan works too.
observe1234 writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 6:42 PM
Well, I am not a member of the
media elite, and I basically agree with Murphy -- it was a poltical ploy, identity poltics, and, deeply cynical -- and McCain's appeal was not that. So I, for one, am disappointed.
DamonS writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 6:35 PM
Country first. Always.
This shows how McCain is not under the control of the Republican party elites. He is a reformer. Palin is a reformer. They are willing to go against the establishment and the establishment does not like it. McCain and Palin are the change this country needs.

Country first. Always.
Chuck writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 6:28 PM
Noonan's Wall Street Journal Article...
...seems a little at odds with her comments. Peggy, I hope you can explain the disparity. I really do. Because I like you. And a friendly bit of advice: never, ever, ever, ever assume the microphone is off.
paddy o'furniture writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 6:28 PM
She is entitled to her opinion....
....just like any of us.

She also has a right to go her own way....and often does.....

This isn't a big deal.
ReadABook writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 6:25 PM
wow
staunch, and I mean STAUNCH Republican's and you just throw them under the bus because they're smart enough to realize that Republican Barbie is sinking the ticket?

Listen, you can be a cheerleader with a brain or a cheerleader without one. Comments like making Noonan and Murphy "media elites" are cheering without a brain. These are Republican foot soldiers.

You've been screaming for months about the left drinking the Kool-Aid. Why drink so freely from it now that the cup has been passed to you?
Oregon Elephant writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 6:23 PM
Also...
There's been no "bounce" at all in the polls from the Palin pick. Actually the polls are moving towards Obama. Could it be the "media elites" are right in this case? That she's a good pick for the base but not really for picking up moderates/independents?
Oregon Elephant writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 6:21 PM
Is it just me...
or is any Republican critical of Palin referred to as a "media elite"? I've never thought of Peggy Noonan that way, and I really like Mike Murphy...I think he's a smart guy and he actually worked for McCain in 2000 and occassionally still advises him.
Jeff writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 6:19 PM
Et tu, Noonan?
Ouch.
Oregon Elephant writes: Wednesday, September, 03, 2008 6:17 PM
Not exactly...
the "circling the wagons" hoped for, I'd guess. Looks really bad.
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Jo
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clam up, grace
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Oh, Invisible Sky Pixie, hear my prayer
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Jillian Bandes 11:01 AM
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Jo
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Well I dont need more
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Good one, Pirate Rob...
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clarityseeker
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NeoConScum
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clarityseeker 11:32 AM
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cuban pete
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Jo
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FOOD STAMPS NOTHING
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Always inspiring...
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the "I's" have it
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Once again...
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upon further consideration
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S/B, Persians.
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