Monday, July 09, 2007
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The Senate GOP's Round-Heeled Caucus
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Posted by:
Hugh Hewitt at
6:17 PM
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New Mexico's Pete Domenici is doubling down on his call for defeat in Iraq, which will almost certainly lead New Mexico Republicans to throw in the towel on his re-election campaign. I don't think there is a more suicidal political strategy than to tell the GOP base you are shifting to Harry Reid's side of the debate and refusing to give General Petraeus even the chance to succeed and report on the success before cutting the legs out from under him and the troops he commands.
The NRSC is already reeling as long time donors return their envelopes with "not one more dime" scrawled across the request for support. The immigration bill debate was one giant self-inflicted wound, and now the rush to embrace Harry Reid's defeat agenda is another. The New York Times' account of a wavering White House has been disputed by Tony Snow today but needs to be forcefully rejected by the president himself. Bill Kristol's editorial on Republican round heels sums up the outrage that is swelling within Republican and independent ranks where the stakes in Iraq are understood and the GOP's defectors the subject of scorn. There's still lots of time for the wavering senators to check with their constituents and vote to block Reid's timetable for collapse, but if they decide Senator Reid is their leader instead of Mitch McConnell, I expect the GOP to give up a lot of ground in 2008. Me-too defeatism is not worth fighting for. I suspect every Republican up for re-election who becomes identified with Reid will be turned out of office, and no tears will be shed for them.
Perhaps the best place to start is with a call to Senators Domenici, Alexander, and Warner via the Hill's switchboard at 202-225-3121, and by sending their offices John Burns account of the tide turning in Ramadi from yesterday's New York Times.
UPDATE: See Scott Johnson's A Moment of Truth, Paul Mirengoff's A Moment of Untruth, and Instapundit's round-up.
Two weeks ago D.C. had settled into a wait-until-September stand-off, and suddenly defeatists are trying to stampede the Congress and the White House. This is not how a Great Power acts, and not how serious leaders conduct themselves --ever. It looks like political panic among some GOPers and the worst sort of opportunism on the left, and the damage it will do to the reputations of those responsible for it --even if as seems certain the president refuses to be cowed by the most craven of political opponents-- will be as lasting as it is destructive.
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Re-reading these exchanges a few days later...
My-o-My! Really got her/his(?)thong in a twist.
And me,just a shy,new kid on this block. Where may I mail the Lithium,LP? Or,at least the Dexamil? There IS help from the '07 morph of liberalism. |
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And speaking of this right-wing propensity for self-congratulations, maybe if your side and your leadership spent a little less time in Spring of 2003 bowing and high-fiving, our country would not be in the mess we are in today. |
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Characteristic of today's conservatives: declare victory while the opponent is still standing, still fighting, still tougher than you are.
My parents and theirs were the salt of the earth. Nothing country club about them. Besides, what's wrong with enjoying the fruits of your labor. They were moderate Republicans in the tradition of Hiram Johnson, Earl Warren, and Richard Nixon (whom they each voted for three times). In fact, I would say Arnold is along the line of that fine tradition. Reagan was somewhere between you and me.
You clowns hijacked the Republican party in this state. You have turned it into the Jesse Helms/Tom Delay party. No grown-ups. Just a bunch of petulant children who want their way and impugne the character of anyone who dares to disagree with them. You guys stink, and you're losers besides.. |
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Yep,I sure seemed to have hit a 'Bouncing Betty'
for poor LibPat..Even gave her(him?)a truce flag,
but musta stumbled on some deep childhood bully
ish-shoes!Sad to see a by-the-numbers lib melt down into a bowl of nonsensical butta'.I think I feel a tear coming up...Nope,just a spec of dust. |
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...stop digging. Liberal Patriot, you've been whupped and in your last post you only sealed the deal. Here in California, we Republicans know that the party of your parents was heavily Country Club. Yeah, the Country Clubbers have been bailing out of the California GOP because they feel they have much more in common with the Democrat Party's limousine liberals: both groups look down their nose at the rest of us.
You get the booby prize for the Biggest Loser's Post, Liberal, and Noah Zark captured the Gold Medal for Best Post and Best In Show among the patriotic posts. |
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I read the McCulllough book, you idiot. Who the hell hasn't?! You asked for some documentation and I told you his domestic program was called the Fair Deal, and I gave you its elements (which are socialistic).
And btw, I could care less about your snickering. This jocular snickering "I'm better than you" act is one that you right-wingers love to play. It is getting old and people see through it. The only thing more obvious than your self-confidence, the self-confidence of a ridculing bully, is your ignorance. And while bullies may get their way for awhile, when they screw up, everyone piles on. That's what is in the process of happening to the Republican party.
You are a Dixiecrat(if not a Southener) who became a Republican. I am a California Republican who became a Democrat. I did not leave the party of my parents--they left me.
But there is something about you neo-Cons. You go from left of left to right of right, but all along, radical, childish, simplistic, and foolish. |
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As evidenced by the Fort Dix plot and the JFK Airport plot those guys are out there and coming at us. Our guys in Iraq may gumshoe them for a while but without a serious border security/ port security program, and without a serious strategy to win I am un impressed with the new revised cut and run politcal strategy. Colin Powell fought the Iraq I war with a simple strategy ie overpowering military force. We won that war. The Rumsfeld Cheney Tax Minamilist war has had it consequences. It's time to foot the bill and win, or nuke the Sunnis and live with a Shiite Iran freindly Iraq or get out. Blaming the libs for defeat doesn't win any votes. Alienating the likes of Pete Domenici and Trent Lott is pointless. |
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Somewhere,I swear,in all of this nonsense was a missive of mine about 'what,for Godsakes,do Lugar & Pete D. imagine they're gonna get outta this ill timed,chicken livered move?' Or,words to that effect. Infuriating,frustrating and HUGE MORAL stakes.(As Senator Lieberman said today on Bill Bennett's radio show.)
As if HST's Dem congress pulled the rug out from under our troops just when Okinawa was heating up and getting Bloody Ugly in summer '45. We're under attack--worldwide--from an unspeakably Evil
Cult of Death,and our Warrior Presidnt's congressal backups are NOW jumping ship. Disgusting. Please,God,tell GWB to Fight Back ! |
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needs to be retired. These guys don't have the energy for the long haul ahead. The old school Senate GOPers are setting the stage for a very brutal world for my offspring. History has proven again and again that evil must be crushed when it rears its ugly head as it will over and over until the end of time. Michael Yon's report on BBQed kids being served up to their parents by al Queda just about had me hurling.
LibPat and NeoConScum, how about focusing on what's truly evil in the world? - it ain't me nor neither of you. Our vaunted Senate would do nothing about that evil if left to their wheeling-dealing ways. |
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Funny...Somewhere back there was a Dean Barnett post about Republican Roundheels.I swear there was!
1.)Blogging ain't(obviously)my 'area'.But,lucky you,History is--Formally,by Degrees--and avocationally & lifelong study & love.Just drew down David McCullough's dandy '92 biography of HST. Pages 726 & 903 (of 1117 pages)make passing mention of the Fair Deal.Ya might take a month to
read that fine work,Lib.HST was a might busy with
Stalin,Mao,Kim Il Sung,Berlin Airlifts, Marshall Plans,etc...
2.)Our current president has reminded me,in many ways,of Truman.Yep,both HST & JFK were both what
now would be called Neoconservatives. So X-Dems like me didn't leave our old party--It left us.
3.)In my neighborhood(s)of L.A. suburb & Winter Park,Florida, "GIRL" ain't a pajorative.
4.)Stop the finger wagging,7th grade hall monitor act and I'll stop the snickering. |
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Are there others out there who:
* get a sinking feeling and sense of futility when they see videos of F-22s and other technological marvels, knowing that we no longer have the leaders or the national will to use such firepower to annihilate mortal enemies who openly proclaim their desire to destroy us and our civilization?
* get sick to their stomachs knowing that political "players" like Rumsfeld and Abuzaid and (truth be told) Bush have imposed pussified rules of engagement on our troops, preventing them from hunting down and destroying AlQaeda in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan?
* just want to PUKE over glib commentators and weasly politicians who lament "mounting casualties" after a couple of weeks of the “surge”; do they expect no soldiers to die or be wounded in a war, especially after we change strategy and mount MORE combat operations? Do they think the fallen will come back to life, thereby reducing the total killed?
* ever ask themselves why the MSM ignore everyday atrocities committed by Alquaeda, but put a hard focus on every mistake and screw-up by our own troops? And doesn’t it just gall you at how the MSM and pols explain themselves by saying “Of course alquaeda indiscrimately kills civilians; that’s what they DO", thereby dehumanizing the enemy and giving him a moral free pass at the same time?
* marvel at how the Moonbat Left can offer a litany of reasons as to why America is such a horrible, imperialist, fascist country with an army of crude and uneducated brutes--- and then argue that we can’t give the benefit of the doubt to ANY breach of conduct by our forces because “we’re better than the the enemy is”!!?
Agreed: we need a new crop of younger GOP Senators, but that won't change things unless their replacements have sand, grit, balls, stones and, dare I say it, PRINCIPLES and an understanding that we are at WAR with an implacable enemy?? After all, the younger Dhimmicrats aren't an improvement over the Old Guard. Look at Obama and Edwards, look at Kucinich.
The Romans had the right idea in dealing with their historical enemies, the Carthaginians: they crushed them and sowed their fields with salt. We should do the same with AlQqaeda and its supporters and adherents.
AlQaeda delenda est.
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benner writes: What's Hugh going to do
When Mitt and Rudy flip leaving only McCain as the last man standing?
If that happens, then Hunter wins. |
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Truman's Fair Deal program (not enacted by Republican and Dixiecratic Congress) included nationalized health care, expanded Social Security, public housing, increase of minimum wage by 50%, tuition assistance, and fair employment rules (governing hiring). It indicated that a job was a right, not a privilege. That is far more socialistic than the way Dems talk today.
As for my "patronizing" tone, you were the one who refered to me as "girl." Just remember that when you are dealing with me, you are not dealing with some straw-man liberal ginned-up in the mind of some right-wing foamer, but with a guy who has an instinct for truth, fair-play, and our sacred heritage. Address my points, not the points of some phony-baloney made-up leftist, and I'll address yours. |
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Dustoff-507 makes good points.If,LibPat, you'll send us Harry Truman's socialist writings(I seem to have loaned mine out...)we can polish-up our woefully deprived knowledge.
Jeez,in your first paragraph (11:09am above)you almost sounded like,yep,a conservative.But,then came the ievitable...errrr...by the numbers talking points for Kos-Man. Your 'splaination is well taken,if patronizing,and I'll try to keep my sarcasm to a minimum.You're absolutely right
that I'm "new" at this Blogstuff and ain't up on the etiquette.I've been,I suspect,treating it more like Letters to the Editors.Be patient.I'm
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So how many years has the US and the worthless UN tried to stop hunger.
Please you can't be that dumb. These places are run by power hungry dictators who don't give a flying zip about their poor. Plus many are in the UN who woun't do zip about them.
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My friend, you are new here, so let me bring you up to date. I am not a multiculturalist. On that point, I am in full agreement with Republicans. Maybe even more so. I think Western Civ is the highpoint of human achievement, morally and culturally. I believe in 'a job for each and a Church for all.' I have no problem with the Pledge to the Flag, school prayer, or civic ritual. I am proud of our country's civic heritage, and am concerned about the descent into barbarism. So don't give me that nonsense about fascist sewage. Save it for some other straw man. With me, my friend, you are dealing with someone who is well-conceived, rational, and traditionalistic.
On other thing, son: in the pre-McGovern era, Democrats (except for the Dixiecrat variant therein--and they are all Republicans these days) were practically socialist compared to today. FDR and HST were far more socialistic than any top-tier Democrat of today. And as for making war: unlike this generation of Republicans, the pre-McGovern Democrats went into war solemnly, reservedly, and in the fear of the Lord. Today's Republicans made a mockery of that solemn duty in Iraq. Emotional, irrational, jingoistic, violent, this generation of Republicans are of a piece with earlier Americans--those who dehumanized Indians and slaves and other souls who were outside their pathetic little comfort zone.
The moral universe is natural--not supernatural--and therefore earthbound. Now, tell me, son, beyond stamping your feet self-insistently, in what way is your moral "clarity" anything other than 'false clarity'? |
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Kid,don't get stuck on...well, you remember the immortal words of Gen.Honore to the Newsies.
"Moral Universe"? Have NO idea what you're talking about,Girl. Just heard Joe Lieberman on the radio say that "to leave Iraq at this juncture would be IMMORAL." That's Boots on the Ground, fully Earthbound Morality.Hey,silly me,I can remember a time when Liberals & Lefties were
militantly anti-fascist.Now they embrace Fascist Sewage as a part of their "Diverse-Multi-Cultural-Post Modern" worldview.Sad.Bleak.No Compass.
Cosigns the Jihadist butchers. |
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I have contended for a long time that too many of our Republican Senators have over stayed their time. Many have been in office for over 40 years and are now into their 80's. (same for Robert Byrd). These are the ones who are starting to undermine our was efforts. The problem is if they are wrong (and they are) they won't be around to see the consequences on our children and grandchildren! The Senate was never meant to be a lifetime occupation - it is not the House of Lords!! And, although younger, I do not believe that Senator Alexander of Tenn reflects the will of that conservative state!! I would hope that some bright, younger Republicans would challenge these men in the primaries. |
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...in a previous post, say hello to Bill Richardson, the next Senator from New Mexico.
The GOP problem is that they've let these old senators like John Warner(my Senator) and Dominici sit around for years without trying to find a nice, young alternative. The Democrats continue to find younger(as opposed to 70+ year olds) like Richardson or Mark Warner(soon to be the next VA Senator) that we're going to lose these Senate seats for decades. |
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Obviously the GOP has learned the lessons of Mrs Bill Clinton's difficulties. The one political imperitive is to get on the side of defeat as early as possible so your opponents can't run to your left. |
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I prefer reality to hallucination, but this indulgence I cannot resist:
We're just about to win boys, but if we don't move quick the U.S. Senate will make us lose! Victory is at hand! Save Islam from itself! March, onward to Tehran and Damascus! Islamabad and Cairo! To Mecca! Nothing can stop us now! Democracy at the barrel of a gun! Yes!
DU |
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That we have such utter morons in Congress? That we have to cajole and plead these "representatives" of the people to do the only decent thing and give Gen Petraeus the time he needs? That someone, like Jessica above, is the voice of so many Americans today -- calling for the abandonment of Iraqis to such monsters for the "throw-money-at-the-problem" ideal of solving world hunger? Did I wake up today and enter the Twilight Zone or the Outer Limits? Can the MSM be anymore dimwitted,anti-American, and lying than it presently is (e.g., reporting of false decapitations but ignoring real and verifible slaughter and indescribable evil)? That we have such nitwits named Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi as leaders in Congress? Where is sanity? |
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Lugar, Hagel and Dimenici et al defy logic to explain their pathetic weakness. For the first time in the 4 years of this conflict we finally have a general and a strategy that are working and they want to cut and run! I'm sickened by their gutlessness. They should give General Patreaus the benefit of the doubt and let the full surge work as it clearly seems to be making progress even before the full compliment of troops arrived. Now is the time for conservative GOP senators and congressmen to withstand Reid/Pelosi's cut and run tactics with unified vigor and for the White House to join them. The Democrats are in complete denial about the nature of the enemy we face. I fear it will take another 9/11 type attack to wake this country out of its complacency. |
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of course, the cynical commies know the only reason there is hunger anyone on earth is because of the tyrannical govts they have installed and propped up through the UN, IMF, World Bank, State Dept, and any number of their other instruments of evil. |
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Clearly, it's circle-the-wagon time for all right-wing fanatics and nutters.
Bush is at 27% approval.
WSJ poll shows 18% of our US brethren believe our country is "headed in the right direction."
Fifty-four percent of the population weighs in in favor of a Cheney impeachment.
Conservative pols are falling off the war wagon right and left (okay, mostly right).
Conditions in Iraq deteriorate -- 0 of 18 goals set last March have been met.
(None of these facts burst the perfect Christianist bubble that limns the Hugh Hewitt Radio Show -- better to obsess about Mitt Romney, pornographer and dog torturer, and the noble goal of building a wall between our country and Mexico.)
Sum: The American people believe our invasive engagement in the Mid-East is immoral and, certainly, ill-founded.
Iraq is over by Spring '08.
Yet deep denialists like Hewitt (aka The Worm) and Kristol continue to sound the battle charge. It'll be interesting to see what sort of rationalizing they'll resort to when the redeployment comes, as it inevitably will, next Spring. (I'll be sure to file away this beauty: "New Mexico's Pete Domenici is doubling down on his call for defeat in Iraq, which will almost certainly lead New Mexico Republicans to throw in the towel on his re-election campaign." Anyone want to take bets, right now, on whether Pete D will be re-elected in '08? Nice strategic call, Worm.)
From my standpoint, it's fun to watch the dissolution of everything neo-con; the hubris, the grand plans for democracy throughout Persia and Arabia, and all the rest.
Neo- con delusions continue to flake away, like a bad case of dandruff.
Facts and reality are rudely intruding, as facts and reality are wont to do. |
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because this surrender is coming directly from him. the smoke signals were everywhere today. America will leave Iraq in Sept. In fact, I think a deal was struck with Iran to avoid war this summer.
this is another foolhardy attempt to "save" the GOP by destroying it. but it's too late to save the GOP now. there was nothing much to save in the first place.
of course, our surrender was a given when we decided to fight a limited war against a total enemy.
so, in honor of the recent posts on my favorite Founding Father, I leave some encouraging news for Comrade Hillary:
"A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one." |
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Mr. Josephine Smartypants?
You're throwing 'em right over the plate now. |
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It's easier not to violate Reagan's 11th rule when you are an unaffiliated independent. What is everyone waiting for? Re-register already! |
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However, the problem with many Pundits, Commentators, Conservative Advocates, etc...
They seem to often unfairly groups the entire Republican Party in with the misguided.
For example, soon the hype grew so big on Illegal Immigration, the entire GOP was portrayed as 'open borders'.
The absurd nature of the overt hyperbole, was made quite clear when the Republicans again killed the comprehensive Immigration Reform bill in Congress.
And yet, even when those Conservative Republicans stood up, few seemed to thank them for their fine effort.
Hoping it doesn't happen again...
So many have lost sight of all the fine efforts provided by so many in the Republican Party.
And they are actually empowering the Liberal Democrat Folly by the unfair slant towards the GOP.
2008 is a must, and we cannot let the Fools cloud the essential need to rebuke the Democrat Party. |
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As a Republican and 23-year resident of New Mexico, I have been glad to have Pete Domenici as my Senator. In the past he has been a reliable counter to the strange political climate here that sadly has given us the likes of Governor Bill Richardson and Senator Jeff Bingaman. Unfortunately it seems recently that "Saint Pete" has lost it.
First, he pressured the US attorney for NM before the 2006 elections hoping to speed up the eventual indictments of a corrupt Democrat former state senator only to have that blow up in his hands. Yet in spite of my distaste for what Domenici did, not supporting him and having him lose to a Democrat was enough to keep my allegiance.
No more.
Senator Domenici has sadly miscalculated on his latest political move. I would rather stand up for fighting the Jihadis over there and lose my senate seat than to pull us out and have them move the fight to our shores. Spreading fertilizer on your lawn on Monday and then vacuuming it off on Tuesday because the grass had not greened up is foolishness. Yet this is just what he is saying about the troop surge in Iraq before it has had a chance to be fully implemented.
I'm hoping for someone to challenge Pete in the NM primary next year, otherwise we'll have two Democrat US Senators from NM in 2009.
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You seem so positive that pulling out of Iraq will cause another 9/11. Well you may be right. But how do we know for sure? Its also possible that being in Iraq is increasing hatred against us, and that will also lead to another 9/11. I don't think we can make aboslute assurances about this either way. |
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Looks like it is time for Jim DeMint and his faithful few to "stand in the gap" again for us, as he/they did in the shamnesty debate.
Only this time, maybe McCain and L. Graham may be on the RIGHT side, for a change.
It is a shame, however, that the self-righteous Hewitt/Barnett have been so spiteful towards McCain all this time (while going the extra mile to absolve the McCain-supporting Jon Kyl): On Iraq, McCain has been a stalwart, but now it seems McCain has every right to tell Hewitt go to p-*-ss up a rope this time.
But he won't: McCain is his own man and he will stand true on the war,.... I do believe.
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9/11 cost $2 trillion. Ex CIA director Tenet said that our going into Iraq prevented another 9/11 that was about to occur (he said that on O'Reilly's show a month or two ago)that means we are 1.5 trillion to the surplus, Jessica and LibPat. You can't do anything for anybody if you're dead. 3500 Americans have died to keep that attack from happening. If we pull out of Iraq now it will cost us 10 times the next go round. |
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If I stay there will be trouble, if I go there will be double.
I am an independent, wasn't for this war in the first place, but now I don't know what to do! The Conservatives are absolutely right that if we leave it's going to be a total disaster. But the liberals are also absolutely right that we're stuck in the middle of a civil war, we're supporting a corrupt govt, that are friends with Iran, and that won't achieve any of the goals we want them to, and that we don't seem to be accomplishing anything positive. Plus, its costing 12 billion a month now. Id be for whichever party could solve this problem, but right now I don't know who to believe. Help!!! |
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I am in favor of doing what is in the best interest of the United States in the Middle East. That would mean success in Iraq. That being said, it does not mean the I'm "for the war".
Hugh/Medved/Prager and most Republicans seem to think there are only two sides to this discussion. You must take a position; either Reids/Dems side or Bush's side.
I don't support Bush/Cheney because they have absolutely no ability to lead and fight this war. I have absolutely no faith in their ability to lead. The war will be lost because of Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld. Republicans need to start to face that fact.
This is why Pete Domenici and others are jumping ship. Note the Dems and the left have no solutions either. Both sides tactics have been awful and are a complete disaster for the United States. Our leaders on both sides have failed us.
There are other tactics which could be implemented now beside "bring the troops home" and "stay the course of the surge" "Iraqis want to be free".
Unfortunately no GOP presidential candidates have any other solutions beside the above two directions. Both those tactics are disasters for the United States. The GOP leadership has had no fresh ideas/strategy in this war for the last 3 years. Its been pathetic.
September will be here faster than we can imagine. We are going to get a report saying the surge did not work. Start to face that fact. What will be the GOP plan then?
BTW - Why does Bill Kristol even get one ounce of respect on this issue when his concepts for fighting this war are now proven to be complete failures? |
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Sarcasm is not a response. Actually, it is an instrument of the weak. Talk to me when you have an argument for why the moral universe is clear and simple.
Btw, there IS a moral universe, and we are obliged to it. But you go ahead and tell me why it is so friggin simple, Mr. Josephine Smartypants. |
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As one who has already contacted the Judge over immigration, I am now suggesting that all posters interested in saving Iraq from genocide and saving us from any more attacks from the Islamofascists, write him. Forget the other drifters. Write Mitch and tell him to get some control over his charges. The Dems do a much better job corraling their wayward doofuses than the Pubs. But, on the WOT, this Quisling behavior from the Pub Senators is nothing less than defeatism. The BASE will not stand for that. As the Dem tide floods all 3 Branches of Govt. next year, the Senators themselves along with a stubborn Prez on Illegals, have only themselves to blame. Perhaps we can get the nudniks to see that they simply are playing a socialist pacifist card when they side with Reid. If not, our republic as we know it will be dead because the Dems will be ruling this nation, soon to be a Third World one , for a generation. And Mitt Romney ain't going to save us. |
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"We have met the enemy, and he is us"..not sure how much more of this I can take. I think the sentiment of our "esteemed" senators does mesh with a majority of the national constituency, and that is what worries me about this country..
Maybe Dean B can run another piece on the "New Greatest Generation", and give me optimism again. God bless our troops, too bad they get marginal support. |
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Yesirree,you're right. The "Moral Universe"of the Left is a "complex and ambiguous place."
No arguments from me,Kid! I don't give a whit about Jessica's heart when it would make a vast,butchered dead zone of Iraq whilst swooning over hunger.Helllllooooooooo,Perdition indeed. |
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Jessica's heart is in the right place, and that counts for something. Besides, I don't think her facts are far from off.
As for your "moral clarity"--there is little that is worse for man's soul than false clarity. The moral universe we inhabit is complex and ambiguous. Those who try to bring clarity to morality end-up killing way too many innocents AND undermining their own power and prestige. Moral truth may be difficult, but that does not make it any less of an obligation. Perhaps that's why Christ said the road to perdition is wide, while the path to salvation is narrow and found only by a few (or at least, I think He said that). |
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...they'll save us from online gambling. |
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--why do we need GOP senators? |
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Eerrrr...Your figures are fascinating and wildly
off. Beyond that,leaving the Iraqis to the tender mercies of Dark Age butchers is..uuhmmm...
good for world hunger? Moral Clarity,thy name ain't Jessica. |
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"..if they decide Senator Reid is their leader instead of Mitch McConnell, I expect the GOP to give up a lot of ground in 2008."
From what I have seen McConnell is not exactly a pillar of strength on this issue. In fact he is pretty much in the Domenici camp. |
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$19 billion will not eliminate starvation and malnutrition worldwide. According to the OECD, international aid to end poverty is over $100 billion per year now ($80 billion if you exclude debt relief), and people are still hungry and malnourished.
Before you surrender the people of Iraq to al Qaeda, I would suggest reading Michael Yon's accounts from the front lines.
http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/baqubah-update-05-july-2007.htm
Ending hunger is a noble goal, but not if means serving up Iraqi children for lunch. |
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Only the DUMMIES are bored by the discussion between David Allen White and Fr Fasio. As another one who does not like change I am forever grate for this explantion. For those of us who loved and understood the mass "the irrevelevant placebo" ( I can't spell and dictionary is crap) was devastating. The Episcopalian Mass is more Catholic than ours. Thanks to you, DAW, and Father. God Bless our President.
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Regardless of the reasons why the United States chose to invade Iraq or even why a US presence remains there today, it is clear that the Bush Administration is putting too many of its resources—OUR resources— into remaining there. To date, the war has cost over $340 billion dollars—money which could have been spent much more wisely and with better end results. It is estimated, for example, that the expenditure of a mere $19 billion would eliminate starvation and malnutrition worldwide. In a time when the current defense budget is $522 billion, the goal of eradicating world hunger is clearly well within reach. Thus, it is clear that the occupation of Iraq needs to end, and it needs to end now without regard to what this will do to United States interest in Iraq’s oil. There are simply much more important issues that need to be addressed. |
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I can't,for the life of me,see what these faint-of-heart Repubs 'gain' from this behavior.Our wrath,obviously.But,why,with the Surge Troop Level only recently full and the offensives in progress and true gains being made--including Iraqi tribal leaders turning over al Qaeda & Insurgents to the Allies--WHY place their heads
up their anatomically difficult withers? 'Splain to me what Lugar and Pete D. gain--Pleeeeease!
All I see is craven cowardice,misguided political expediency & a catching of the same virus of 'Refusal to Get It'as their Dem neighbors in the Chamber.What can they imagine is to be gained by quitting NOW? |
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Rumor has it that Harry Reid has promised to provide a real estate investment seminar to those GOP members who side with him on this Iraq defeat agenda.
With Harry Reid's eyepopping $1,000,000 plus gains on inside Las Vegas deals, it is reportedly getting a lot of attention. Apparently, as rumor has it, this seminar is replete with advice on how to circumvent IRS reporting on all profits. Yeee Haaaaw!
Where do we sign up for that instruction? |
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