the common denominator here is an x wife for monegan and x sister inlaw for wooten.doesnt that raise a flag toyou.
plus a hot headed todd palinwho has been stalking wooten since the divorce hes filed to false reports about wooten
1 followed him 100 miles to take pictures of wooten ehngaging in a dr approved activity (snowmobling)ANDusing his trooper car to take his kids to school (employer approved. called the chief
of police in wasilla and told him not ot hire mike wooten so mike didnt even get interviewed.
wooten did indeed demonstrate his stun gun (not tazer which is totally differen) to his step sonupon
his step sons request. he taped the leads to him had him kneel on the floor and placed pillows all
around him . he gave him a one second test. the boy said it felt like hitting his funny bone and
wanted to tdo it again. his grandpa chuck heath thought it was funny till wooten and molly(who i cant even find a picture of on the net) got divoreced. then she got a restraining order and the rest of the family filed complaints the same dayas the divorce was filed.the governors daughter told the AST investigator the family planned it that way. the fmaily filed 76 complaints since 2005 mainly because of a custody
dispute .
SO AMANDA HAS FILED AN ENOURMOUS PIILE OF BS
WITHOUT BOTHERING TO INVESTIGATE SLANDERING BOTH MEN.
IN MONEGANS CASE WHO TELLS THE LESS THAN A EX WIFE SOUNDS LIKE SHES CRYING OVER SOURAPPLES
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Romney is exactly what this country needs right now. He's the real deal who has the brains/talent/experience to handle the economic crisis, and the international stage. He's 1000 times more qualified than Palin, and McCain should have chosen him if he cared about the country.
As is, we got a woman who knows practically nothing. But she sure is cute!
Yeah, I'm feeling pretty upset that we didn't choose the best man as our nominee or VP, and now we have dumb and dumber to choose from. |
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closer look at the 60,000 in Florida who think your full of it and showed up to greet Governor Palin. Are you haters feeling a little lonely about now? |
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let us all just be thankful McCain did not pick Mitt Romney. Now, that would have been a disaster for the GOP. |
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And so is 2cents.
Palin went back to work 3 days after delivering a DS preemie. Do you really need to know anything else? DS babies do often have complications. Mine did, and we were in the hospital for an extra week. I say "we" because there was NO WAY IN HELL I WAS LEAVING HER, and she was full term.
Palin's children are props. She has no intention of caring for them herself. They are tossed around between relatives. They sure do look cute when they need to though, don't they? Too bad mom isn't there for them. She is NUMERO UNO in that family. Her political ambition comes before everyone else.
But we're told she's a hero because she didn't murder her own baby. To my mind, being a hero means actually being there for your special child, and the rest of your family.
Sorry, I'm not buying Superwoman Palin. She has too many glaring judgment/character defects to ignore.
Oh, and did I mention that she knows absolutely ZILCH on most issues, including the critical ones: foreign policy and the economy?
She is a persona and nothing else. The real Sarah Palin is not someone to rally behind. Why do you think McCain has her under lock and key? |
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In Palin's previous 6,000 versions of what happened in this case - why is this only mentioned after GOP Google research ? |
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Perhaps this question has been answered, but I don't have time to go through almost 200 comments. Has anyone researched to see if a restraining order had been given the the estranged wife of the fired Public Safety Commissioner? This seems like an important piece of the story that was not included. |
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It's been a little over 2 wks. and lots of problems- power abuse & poor judgement. Do we really want 4 yrs for headaches?
One example of her judgement is how she handled the birth of her fifth child, Trig. She was at an Energy Summit in Dallas, TX, for Governors, 7 mo pregnant. The mornimg of the day she was scheduled to give a keynote speech, her water broke. As we all know, this means you go to the hospital, because you are soon to deliver your baby. But, as she said, "I was not going to miss that speech", and she did give an 30 min. speech. She then boarded a Alaskan Airline 8 hr, 3000 mi flight, to Anchorage, (transferring in Seattle), by-passing good medical facilities in Dallas, Seattle, and Anchorage to have her baby born in the sm. town of Wasilla, assisted by a family practitioner in a hospital not equipped for possible complications of her baby. She didn't tell the flight crew of her situation. Not very considerate to them or they other passengers, as it would have been nice to have a head's up, and there may have had to be an emergency landing. But, in fact Alaskan Airline does not allow a woman whose water has broken to board a flight. A bit deceptive then, on her part.
Being 44, she was in the high-risk catagory for pregnancy and her baby was determined to have Down's Syndrome. These babies are frequently born with a variety of physical defects- including serious heart defects. Premies often have lung development issues. This being her 5th would mean the delivery would be fast,(subsequent deliveries are usually faster).
She took incedible risks that no responsible and mature mother would take with a Down Syndrome baby. Many think her judgement is INSANE! |
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Hey I would get nasty too if I was forced by my party to defend women and child abusers.Thanks to your girl Sandra Bernhart(and I use girl gingerly)you now have to justify gang rape.How does that song go;I am woman hear me roar...that's because some democrat is abusing her! |
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Palin is not a refomer. Sheis a user. And she is using you all. I will not vote for someone dumb enough to think that she can hasten arrmegeddon with war? Are you freeking serious? I will not vote for someone who thinks she can speak in tounges.
I want this woman down in flames, so other women can rise up. Real women. Women who don't step inthe crap and try to tell is it smells sweet. Exactly WHAT are the policy'sof the old guy? How many will be suprised in November when they go to the polls and find her not in first place on the ballot, but some dude name "mcCain"? WHAT is HE going to do as president. This woman does not and will not ever represent this conservative mother/wife/woman. YOu all thought huck was second commming. You're totally blinded by this idiot who puts family last. Career first. Great example in the 'christian' world, ech?
And yes, I can and will get nasty. Have me toossed off. But there are a lot of us out here who don't lik this woman. Not because she's a woman, but she is being used, and is also a user. I look for more knocked up teens coming from this fine example of a family. |
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I would still not vote for her. In fact, I would then have a good excuse to call her the crappy mommy she really is. Her kids are nothing more than props- photo ops. That's it. I feel for them. Todd palin is a weak man, who does what mommy wants, because he can't seem to make a buck to support this brood. Whipped. Thanking God that he's not my husband. I would have deep sixed him a LONG time ago! Oh, and the knocked up teen? I'm a mom who actually KNOWS what my 17 yr old is doing? And it's not sleeping with the levis. My bet is he was nto her first, and won't be her last.
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"I answered your questions. If she was a Democrat, no, I of course would still not like her. "
LOLOLOL. Easy to claim now my dear, but truly I think you protest a little too much. |
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I believe it was Hannity & Colmes that Palin said that Moneghan wasn't suited to the original job he was in, so she gave him an opportunity to accept a different job in a different department where his "skills" were a better fit. He chose NOT TO TAKE THE JOB and he quit. |
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Let's recognize picking on Palin for what it is--sour grapes.
Although it pains me to recognize this as a conservative, the Dems could have really bagged the win in November if only Obama and the DNC hadn't thrown Hillary under the bus. I am no fan of Hillary's political or personal platform, but you gotta admit the woman's got moxie, and she has a very dedicated following. Had Obama been smart enough to recognize that and put her on the ticket, we wouldn't be talking about Sarah Palin right now. Picking Palin was a smart move *only* in the context of Biden, not Clinton, as VP nominee. The libs hate that McCain's strategy worked. Instead of a solid lead, the race is dead even. The libs had their shot. It simply defies logic that they willingly blew it. |
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It seems to me we are blaming the victim here. If these guys did what they are accused of doing isn't it the local law enforcements job to deal with them? Since when does the Govenor step in and do the firing? Correct me if I'm wrong but that's not her job. I want this to be handled so that we can focus on the issues. Sarah says she wanted the investigation to go forward so why has the McCain folks gotten in the way? |
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It seems to me we are blaming the victim here. If these guys did what they are accused of doing isn't it the local law enforcements job to deal with them? Since when does the Govenor step in and do the firing? Correct me if I'm wrong but that's not her job. I want this to be handle so that we can focus on the issues. Sarah says she wanted the investigation to go forward so why has the McCain folks gotten in the way? |
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Imagine that -- Obama, Monegan, Wooten, the Democratic-controlled Alaska State Senate and the entirety of the truly monolithic MSM vs ...
Sarah Palin!
Sounds like a fair fight to me! (tongue-in-cheek) |
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Why is it that Liberals claim to be 'pro-choice' and yet when a woman 'chooses' to allow her baby to live, you attack her? |
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This woman is everything America needs in Washington. She is a reformer. Check out http://www.sarahpalinhasaposse.com, it is hilarious... |
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That and a buck can get you a cup of coffee.
Why did 30 Democratic lawyers go to Alaska un-invited?
I repeat, all the charges you and yours have brought against her have been answered and debunked with facts.
'Abdicated'? 'Surrendered'? Do you charge Joe Biden with abdicating and surrendering his Senate seat?
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I answered your questions. If she was a Democrat, no, I of course would still not like her.
And no, I would not call this a witch hunt. Governors aren't kings; legislators have the right to act as a check on their power. Palin apparently doesn't think so, which makes her doubly unsuited for higher executive office.
And who, exactly, has taken over what? It appears that it is the McCain campaign who has moved into the Governor's mansion and is now handling what should be state issues. Which doesn't fly with Alaskans. The editorial today in the ADN states that she has 'abdicated' and 'surrendered' the Governor's mansion.
Will McCain/Palin (or Palin/McCain, as she said recently at a stop) end up winning Alaska? Not if she keeps up at this rate.
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Ms Carpenter
Having read the above article, I did not see any citations, for referencing several of the allegations you made in your article;
Democrats pushing "Troopergate" are getting closer and closer to defending the records of two abusive men who have threatened family members and on occasion taken violent action towards them.
What factual evidence do you or this web site have to substantiate this claim?
Moldovan sought a restraining order against him in 1994 after he threatened to kill her, waved a gun at her and knocked her shoulder out of socket, according to court papers. The court papers say: "he pulled out his gun and waved it at me outside my home and yelled he would kill me if I stopped him."
Again, where are the actual court documents to support this allegation? A restraining order is not proof of a crime but an allegation by one party, unsubstantiated or uncorroborated, that events took place and the party seeking redress through the court, desires the court to issue a restraining order against another party. Was there an investigation conducted on the allegations by Ms Moldovan by the local law enforcement agency? Was an arrest made if the allegations were proven to be accurate? What was the outcome of any criminal proceedings subsequent to the arrest?
Again, what factual evidence do you or this web site have to substantiate or support your claim here that Mr. Monegan is a “wife beater”. It appears to me that you are using “buzz” words and phrases to miss direct the public’s right to know whether Ms. Palin used her position as Governor to unduly interfere with the employment of a state employee that was a former family member.
When you have answered the questions here, we can then move onto the issue concerning Alaska State Trooper Wooten.
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No one seems to mention that the trooper is still on the force ............. the jerk has not been fired, yet. |
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This is the last word:
Bush lied? Obama cries!
Biden's hairplugs make one sigh
McCain can't email, but that's a lie
Sarah Palin eats polar bears with fries
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You want the answers,
watch the interview with Governor Sarah Palin with Sean Hannity at 8pm on Fox News tonight. |
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The Democrats are going to investigate Governor Palin into looking like a Saint. The real funny part is how the Democrats going to explain their way out. |
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the bumper sticker that says, "There's No Excuse For Domestic Violence", even though I don't own a Volvo. |
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Slick Willie fires 93 US Attorneys for partisan political reasons so that he can replace them with his own people. The lib pukes don’t say a word.
Bush fires a few US Attorneys and the lib pukes say he broke laws.
Governor Palin fires a political appointee who worked with Senator French to reinsert items back into the Alaska budget that Governor Palin had already vetoed. She fires him for gross insubordination and the lib pukes scream abuse of power.
PUBLIC NOTICE TO ALL LIB PUKES:
1. Political appointees can be fired at anytime by the executive.
2. Political appointees serve at the executive’s pleasure.
3. The executive doesn’t have to give a reason for the firing.
Do you lib pukes make an effort to be so loathsome or does it just come naturally.
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I understand why you cannot answer any questions because you have an agenda.
Frankly, if Sarah Palin was a Democrat and everything else stayed the same (her record, experience, family), I would vote for her, because the country is more important than your juvenile 'want' list.
You and your cohorts have leveled charge after charge at Palin; and each one has been answered and refuted with facts. Now the Democrats again try to subvert an investigation of which they had NO part, with only intent to destroy a woman.
I am glad that she strikes free into the hearts of you and yours. |
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If Sarah Palin were a democrat Trig would be dead! Her daughters baby would be dead.Just like Obama said, free of burdens.As you can read by all these desperate pathetic posts the dems have a disdain and hate of someone who possesses personal responsibility,morals,patriotism and the conviction to make a stand on them.The very existence of Sarah Palin and her family shakes the left to it's core endangers all the inroads the progressive movement has done to tear this country apart.Hence the extreme hate and vitriol coming from the left.They will support wife beating,rape,invasion of privacy,traitor ism ,anything they can make up.The enemy is desperate and we are righteous.
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I'm gonna make that into a bumper sticker.
Here in New England it should cause some anxiety in Liberal traffic jams. |
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shined on these people that smear the Gov, because it's gotten to the point where there's no penalty for slimes like Monegan and Hollis to say whatever they want because the MSM will slant everything they want for a liberal to be in power next January. Should Obama get elected they will consolidate their power by clamping down on blogging and talk radio, and 80% of these useful tools villifying Gov Palin will find out just how useless they are, and be purged just like the Russians by Stalin to make way for the Obama new world order. Even if most of them are libs, Obama won't want too many troublemakaers around regardless of party. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and the libs will control every pillar of power in America.
Supreme court, congress, President, and the media.
Professors in the indoctrination centers now called colleges will make sure students only support the state. Laugh at it now, but you do so at your own peril, Obama will have more power than Hitler, Stalin, and Mao ever did. The state will know where people drive, decide what energy they can use, what people can eat, and what they will learn, and property will be rented out by the state. Deals will be cut with Russia and China in an Obama administration where all citizens are treated the same, and it won't be Russians and Chinese adopting our freedoms. This is the picture of what real abuse of power will be. |
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"if Sarah Palin was a Democrat, with the same credentials, and the same family life."
Well, would you? I am sure you would, viciously. Rove attacked Tim Kaine when he was the possible nominee, saying that there was no way someone who had only been governor of Alabama for 3 years (after serving a term as Lieutenant Governor), and before that, had ONLY run a city with 105,000 people. Rove looked down his nose, saying that was no kind of experience for a VEEP.
So we know how consistent Republicans are. If Kaine had been nominating, we would all be hearing about his paltry experience. It's a bit pathetic...
Also, I think investigations opened by a REPUBLICAN legislature before she was even nominated for vice-president should be able to be completed. The circumstances have not substantively changed since she originally promised to cooperate. She should keep her word. |
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Next thing the dems are going to advocate is rape. Oh yea...that's right,Sandra Bernhardt already did.Dems are so noble. |
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"Has Obama ever governed a city? Has Obama ever governed a state?"
So? Our best presidents had done neither of these things before becoming president. Abraham Lincoln had zero executive experience, and Polk had a ton. Are you saying Polk was a better president than Lincoln? Most historians will tell you Polk was one of the most experienced presidents.
Besides, Palin governed a city the size of a large high school (poorly) and a state that's smaller than Memphis.
But I don't care about any of that, really. I care about the rampant cronyism, lying and corruption. She is a person who does not think the law applies to her. On top of that, she is an incurious person who had difficulty finishing the most cursory of educations. I know many of you don't care; you would be happy wf we elected a high school dropout. I personally think that someone who can hardly get a BA from a community college is probably not up to the challenges of the presidency, even if they have run Jacksonville, FL.
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"When Obama worked as a community organizer, he managed a staff of 700. That was 20 years ago; since then, he's run the Harvard Review, taught at one of the country's most respected (and conservative) institutions, and managed a large number of projects.
When Palin was mayor of Wasilla, they had to hire a city administrator to run the city."
Blah, blah, blah,
I know Obama's history. I did not deny that history. I know Obama's experience. I know what Obama says. Has Obama ever governed a city? Has Obama ever governed a state? You do not have to answer these questions; the answer is a 2 letter word - 'NO'. Of the 4 candidates, who has more experience in actual governing? Again, you need not answer.
The point of my post was to address the latest attack on Palin - i.e. she must be hiding something.
The first question you should answer is this: if Sarah Palin was a Democrat, with the same credentials, and the same family life, would you be attacking her? The second question is this
The second question you should answer is this: given the same conditions of question #1, would you feel the GOP was involved in a 'witch hunt' and that Sarah P. was she justified in refusing to respond to the GOP demands?
I really do NOT want to hear more of your Obama cheerleading without answering the last 2 questions. |
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Amanda, the ALLEGED wife beater is not running for office, and his domestic situation, like Palin's is irrelevant.
Amanda, the thing you can't seem to understand is this: A governor can't use her office to settle personal scores whether the person upon whom she seeks revenge is good, bad or reprehnsible.
By the way, just so you know the full sorty on the taser incident, for your next redundant article on:
when the kid asked Wooten to taser him, Wooten took the battery out, there was not a full cartridge, and then and removed he the probes. That's the way they use tasers in training when officers are shot with the taser.
It amounts to a barely detectable shock-that's the procedure used in training.
There is no evidence the kid was harmed, and no evidence that he required medical treatment.
You are deliberately leaving out relevant facts to make it sound far worse than it was. If Wooten had shot the kid without taking the aforementioned precautions, he would have gotten lots worse than a five day suspension.
Amanda, you are either deliberately misleading your readers, or you are a hopeless dingbat.
Which is it?
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Amanda, the ALLEGED wife beater is not running for office-and his dimenstic situation, like Palin's is irrelevant.
Troopergate is not about a misfit brotherinlaw, just as Clinton's impeachment was not about lieng about sex.
Amanda, the thig you can't seem to undertsnad is this: you cant use your office to settle persoal scores wheter the person upon whom you are seeking revenge is good, bad or criminal.
By the way, whe the kid asked Wooten to taser him, he took the battery out so there was not a full cartridge, abd then and removed the probes. That's the way tey use tasers in training when officers are shot with the taser.
it amounts to a barely detectable shock-thats the procedure used in training.
there is no evidence the kid was harmed, and no evidence that he required medical treatment.
You are deliberately leavibg out relevant facts to make it sound far worse than it was. If Wooten had shot the kid without taking the aformentioned precautions, he would have gotten lots wrse than a five day suspension.
Amanda, you are either delibertaly misleading your readers., or you are a hopeless dingbat.
which is it?
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"But I have yet to see a Democrat investigation which is open and honest."
The LAC is a bipartisan committee made up of eight Republicans and four Democrats. The ALC's vote to launch an investigation was 12-0.
French, a Democrat that sits on the ALC was chosen by the other committee members to chair the investigation.
The AG of Alaska that led an independent investigation that led to the suspension of Palin's administrative assistant is also a Republican.
The Assistant AG involved in the case is a Republican.
The Alaska Senate Judiciary Committee, the body that voted to subpoena thirteen witnesses including Todd Palin, is compromised of three Republicans and two Democrats. The vote to subpoena was 3-2.
The truth is that it is a bipartisan investigation weighted heavily with Republican investigators, and most definitely not a "Democratic investigation" as you put it.
You are either intentionally misleading the readers of you comments to further partisanship, grossly ignorant of the facts, or you don't know that eight is a higher number than four, none of which are attributes of a credible historian.
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When Obama worked as a community organizer, he managed a staff of 700. That was 20 years ago; since then, he's run the Harvard Review, taught at one of the country's most respected (and conservative) institutions, and managed a large number of projects.
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Sticking up for criminals. Just like they do for their criminal Senators and Congressmen, read William Jefferson and Charles Rangle. Also Ted Kennedy etc etc etc.
Don't forget the child molestors they love to let off with a slap of the wrist.
She inadvertently fired a wife beater for insubordination so what. Bill Clinton fired all the assistant attorneys when he took office. For no reason at all except that they were hired by a Republican. Now if that wasn't an abuse of power, I don't know what is. But not even a peep out of the good old liberal media, no uproar from commie news network, nothing.
It just shows how far these scumbags will stoop to smear a good woman and candidate all the while sweeping their trash under the rug. |
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You said:
"A good Christain wife must SUBMIT!
Right?"
You try telling that crap to my wife and she will beat you with the bag she takes to Bible study! (And her Bible is BIG!)
I wouldn't marry no sheepish woman. Looks like Todd Palin agrees! |
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"Do YOU know what the VP does, other than preside of the senate in case there is a tie?"
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Are you really that dumb? The very document you quoted ADMITTED that their records only go back to 2000--interestingly, ALL of their records from before the Alaska state law forbidding their practice are now gone. they admit it. You couldn't have read that document (which only has two paragraphs) without seeing that line, so you are out being intentionally misleading.
Also, the articles have stated that victims OR their insurance companies were charged. THERE WERE NO FUNDS ALLOCATED FROM PALIN'S POLICE DEPARTMENT. Wasilla records show that. What exactly do you think happened when there was no insurance.
Also, in cases where people have high copays or high deductible insurance (like myself), billing one's insurance company IS billing the victim.
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That's all fine and good. No one is above the law. Since that is your beef with Ms. Palin, can you tell me what law she broke? Don't give me that abuse of power crap, because that has been seriously debunked.
So, tell me. What law did she break.
If you can't find one, I can assume that we can look forward to your support of the McCain/Palin ticket?
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This is not a vigilanti state. You are not above the law, and yet, you must give everyone due process.
Just another reason to not trust this woman. Who's law? her's? Somewhere in those 5 colleges she attended to get her journalism degree (no plural) she might have taken at least one class on the constitution? In case she needs a refresher, have her old geezer take her to the Nat. Archives and read it slowly to her. |
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I wonder why.
1) When first announced as McC's running mate, Democrats threw charges of "executive in-experience" at her.
The problem is that from the very first day as Governor, she had more executive experience than Obama, Biden, and McC combined (each of whom have exactly 0, none, nada executive experience). That 'executive experience' continued to grow thru-out her term as major and into her term as Governor. Granted, it is NOT POTUS experience but then, none of the other candidates have POTUS experience either.
2) Then Democrats picked-up on her baby charging that it was really her daughter's baby; that Sarah was merely pretending it was hers to save her daughter from embarassment.
The only was to stifle that charge was to eventually bring her daughter out before the people and tell that her daughter was 5 months pregnant herself.
3) But that did not end the harpies darts. Her daughter was attacked for getting pregnant out of wedlock. Shame on Sarah.
4) In her acceptance speech, Sarah, in a tongue-in-cheek rebuttal to inexperience, stated that her term as governor was similar to a 'community organizer' but with responsibility.
Tit for tat. She also made a self deprecating reference to her and pitbulls - she wears lipstsick. Lipstick jokes are now off the table.
5) Barack Obama said "You can put lipstick on a pig... but it is still... a pig.... Ha Ha.
6) The people in Alaska started an investigation into Sarah's relation and interaction with 2 people in her administration. She said, "hold me accountable".
But once she became VP running mate to John McC, 30 Democrat lawyers flew to Alaska and took over the investigation.
Now, I ask you, if Sarah Palin was a Democrat, would you have her honor GOP subpeona to sit before them so they could throw more slime at you? |
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What the Democrats want is an issue to wave in front of the media to diminish her effectiveness and make her the target of speculation and doubt. Given the sheer response to this one article by Amanda Carpenter, they are getting their wish.
Let Sarah Palin defend herself, don't broaden the argument of the left by allowing them to draw you into their sewer of character assassination. |
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you will understand it. Nobody said ANYTHING about the timeline of when she became VP vs the investigatiion starting. I know that history; after all, I AM TheHistorian.
What I said is that all these other reasons, for and against her which are being argued are crapola. That's Italian, johnf, for stuff you don't step in.
The "other stuff" is:
*the rape kit red herring,
*the garbage that your buddies try to put out that she is part of the Independence party,
*the fact that Branchflower can't even defend his own subpoena list, that French has the right of veto over it,
*French is going to try for an October surprise with the investigation (according to his own quotes).
That is the crapola, johnf. NOT the investigation. She agreed to the investigation, and if it were being done openly and honestly, we will let it fall where it does. But I have yet to see a Democrat investigation which is open and honest. Just like Nancy's latest bill, "Drill where there is no oil, and pay more for electricity", all that the Democrats do is wrapped in fraud. |
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I guess one important fact that gets lost here is the fact that her replacement for this wife-beating animal was not asked to, nor did he, fire her ex-Brother-in-Law. The firing was just a smoke screen the the Dems (and a couple of Rep. victims of Palin's clean-up of the corruption) latched onto as soon as Palin's name was first mentioned as a possible VP pick. The national party was scared to death that McCain would pick a woman like Palin and wanted to create an "issue" to short circuit the pick. Too bad for them. She's just to smart for them. |
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It's no wonder why Walt Monegan would not have fired state trooper Mike Wooten anyway, because Wooten reminds him so much of himself. |
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A good Christain wife must SUBMIT!
Right?
Jose
P. S. Don't we need to vet the guy who will be telling the future president what to do?
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I love it when she finds this stuff to throw back at the libtards. I used to hate that word (libtard) now I just see it as simplified truth. |
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I get it dems,wife beating is good as long as it's a democrat doing the beating. I will cede you this point.You libs have made your cases intelligently and victory is yours.You own this subject on excusable wife beating,congratulations. |
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The VAWA was drafted in 1994, not 1992, by Biden's office...hold on for this ok...it was signed into law by GW...you know the shlep you guys verbally beat up for being so against women. Dum dum.
Rape kits are covered under insurance for those who have it. And for good measure I am going to educate you on something real quick here: we currently have 304 million people in this country, 42 mil have Medicare and Medicaid, 47 mil are uninsured...that leaves 215 with insurance...those numbers are not too bad. To top that off not a single person has ever been denied healthcare and no matter what you think or say we have the best healthcare in the world. To finish with the ridiculous rape kit claim...the state will automatically pick up the cost otherwise under this bill. There is no proof to support your garbage. Dum dum.
Archer - Let me add to your list of ridiculous gaffes by their #2. "Americans just want to buy a toaster", "We WANT to take your money, it's the patriotic thing to pay more taxes" (WTF?), "Hey you in the wheelchair...stand up. Oh God love ya...", "Hey...she looks hot in a skirt", Ohhh this is too fun! |
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If Palin had fired Monegan JUST for being a wife beater, I would question that. However, from what I've heard about all this, being a wife beater was the least of his indiscretions. I have yet to hear anything that Palin has done as governor that could be in any valid way an abuse of her power. To the contray, she sounds like the kind of governor I wish we had here in Washington State. In my 59 years we've never had a decent governor.
It seems that the desperate Democrats are so intent to villify Palin who is more qualified and would probably make a more competent President than Obama (Jimmy Carter, Jr.) that they will grasp at anything to discredit her. So far, the worst thing that they have on her that is real is that she said she did not know what the VP does (though, when I saw the clip of her say that I had the impression she was just being facetious). I would say that at least 90% of the American people could not tell you what VP's function is, other than presiding over the Senate--which is the only job the Constitution allows the VP. Other than that, the VP does only what the President allows him or orders him to do.
Palin scares the left so much that they have forgotten that Crybaby Obama is supposed to be running against McCain not her. |
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It's legalized violence and even murder. Very un-american. A police State we abhor but some gung ho bullys thrive on abuses of power. Shameful! |
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"Palin fired one guy
for insubordination. Live with it. All the rest of this stuff is a smoke screen generated by a bunch of Obaminators in Alaska."
07/29/08 Palin pledges cooperation after the Legislative Council votes 12-0 to hire independent investigator Stephen Branchflower.
08/29/08 McCain announces Palin as V.P nominee
I would like to make a suggestion to The Historian.
Choose another screen name.
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"Not drunk, but Palin has been filmed (this year) saying she has no idea what the vice-president does."
Do YOU know what the VP does, other than preside of the senate in case there is a tie?
Besides, if you want to trade gaffes, I'm game.
Let's see. There was the time when Biden passed off someone else's life story off as his own. Then, of course, the whole speech plagiarizing thing. Then there was the outright lie where he said that the rich under Obama would pay less than they did under Reagan.
Then we move to Obama. Setting aside the ties to terrorists, known racists and slumlords, how about we take his "clinging to guns and religion" gaffe? Maybe you'd prefer the "My Muslim faith" thing? "Lipstick on a pig", maybe?
I could do this all day, but there is really no point in bringing them up as truly honest and open minded voters won't hold them against the candidate. I won't. |
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Animl said:
"They billed the insurance company WHEN POSSIBLE. When the victim did not have insurance, they billed the victim."
Really? Link please. How many were billed?
I did go into your Wassilla documents link from above. Here is what I found:
There are no records of billings to or collections from rape victims or their insurance companies in our system.
and
A review of files and case reports within the Wasilla Police Department has found no record of sexual assault victims billed for forensic exams.
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I heard that their was a big rape case that involved KIMBERLY,giesel,and hazel do you know what it might cost to help prosecute that rape case?
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Not drunk, but Palin has been filmed (this year) saying she has no idea what the vice-president does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4gkPXSDtGQ
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'Rape kits are covered by insurance'
If you have it.
'and ultimately every patient who endures something as tragic and disgusting as this (who has insurance...or Medicaid) is responsible for that bill no matter what.'
Actually, no. Under the Violence Against Women Act, authored by Joe Biden in 1992, it is not legal to charge victims of sexual violence for investigating the crime. |
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They billed the insurance company WHEN POSSIBLE. When the victim did not have insurance, they billed the victim. |
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Palin Fired Man With Mustache
Palin Fired Man That Favors Fruit-of-the-Loom
Palin Fired Man That Probably Snores In His Sleep
Palin Fired Man That Drowns Puppies
The above may or may not be true, but that doesn't
change one iota of what Palin has stated publicly.
Palin stated she fired Monegan because he "did not turn out to be a team player on budgeting issues."
Amanda Carpenter, meet Generoso Pope. |
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this morning when he was tasered by police because he would not drop a knife he was holding to the throat of his girlfriend. |
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I thought Ann Coulter and the other bullies of the GOP love it when police officers taser folks -- after all, according to right-wing doctrine, if they did it, you must have been guilty.
And while the officer in question looks wretched, Palin doesn't have the right to do whatever she wants. Who does she think she is, Dick Cheney?
Oh and a pathological liar is one who repeats in the face of the truth. Which puts RushCoulterMedvedPragerHewittElder etc. all in the same boat. Liars. |
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AnimalGirl, Libs & Reps both tend to believe what they want to. It takes a free Spirit and fair, strong, open minds to see beneath the surface of things and not to be a presumptious fool! Accepting 'hear say' without challenge or doing your homework, leaves much to be desired! To be so biased and defensive to not stand up for the true facts, based on real evidence, is a shallow and misguided weak mind!
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Forgive me for being off topic here, but this is something everyone should see.
Has Sarah Palin ever been filmed being drunk in public?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkCZQ
Yup! That's your VP candidate! He compares so well against Palin.
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You just proved my point further. I must add in to that ridiculous mess brought up by animule that after working in medicine for 11 years and now teaching it for three years...you are correct. Insurance will pay for these kits, period, end of discussion. Thanks! |
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for insubordination. Live with it. All the rest of this stuff is a smoke screen generated by a bunch of Obaminators in Alaska.
Clinton fired all 50 AG's and the White House Travel Office without you guys even raising an eye. And Clinton did it so that he could stop investigations into him and his buddies and for patronage purposes.
Until you guys are willing to go after BOTH sides, just shut up! |
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Can't you libs EVER stick to topic? Or is it when you lose big-time like you are here you have to scrape up a smoke-screen.
How about some logic, AG? |
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Answer a few questions for me:
How many women under Mayor Palin had to pay for such kits? Were there any at all?
When was the policy implemented?
Was this something Palin inherited from a former administration, or did it start with her?
Did she have the authority as Mayor to change the policy, or was it completely out of her hands?
At any time, did Sarah Palin state her support for charging victims (or their insurance companies) for these kits? (I can find quotes where she says she did NOT.)
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Wassilla did charge for rape kits at one time, but that was made illegal under a law signed by the Alaskan Governor in 2000.
http://teamsugar.com/group/974220/blog/1982774
“In the past, we’ve charged the cost of exams to victim’s insurance companies when possible,” former chief Charlie Fannon told the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman in 2000 as then-Democratic Governor Tony Knowles was signing legislation to make local police branches cover the costs of the kits.
“I just don’t want to see any more burden on the taxpayer,” Fannon said at the time, which was reprinted in the USA Today.
Fannon went on to say that he believed the criminal should be held responsible for the costs, which run from $5,000-$14,000 per year for all assault cases. USA Today did not reprint those quotes from the interview, though.
In other words, it's BS. They billed the victim's insurance company. It's not like they made her write a check before proceeding. Charging an insurance company is different than charging the victim. To say that then Mayor Palin suddenly decided that rape victims must pay for their own kits is more BS coming from your side.
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Look at what we are dealing with here. The rest of them are like to this too :) I debate quite a few of these peeps and they are all the same. You bring up a good point and they right away attack you and things like the color of your hair. Orrrr...they bring up things like rape kits, lipstick, a chef, and an airplane...it almost sounds like the beginning of a bad joke. This is a sport to me...destroying their lies and poking a bit of fun myself...he he he.
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When and why did rape kits become part of this argument. Rape kits are covered by insurance and ultimately every patient who endures something as tragic and disgusting as this (who has insurance...or Medicaid) is responsible for that bill no matter what....
Please, I beg of you...something that matters! Give me just one piece of info that makes me stop and think "wow, now that is a good question, instead of wow, what an ignorant dum dum" |
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Di.... refer yourself to the facts of this situation, which are abundantly clear.
Sarah Palin is clean as a whistle, and you libs are imploding on yourselves waiting for a "silver bullet" that's never going to come.
She's going to be the first female Vice President of the United States.
Then she will be the first female President.
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Did this man's wife press charges, or is this one of Palins made for tv lies? She does not seem to have a good track record for truth telling.
If indeed, this man did somehting wrong, allow the friggin investigation to go forward. Don't stall it because you THINK trash MIGHT come out? I've had folks working for me in the past who I knew were smoking dope off duty. But since I could not PROVE it, I could not get them busted and off my watch. |
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FYI Go ahead and investigate, see if we care. |
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"Complete and utter lie. She has never suggested hat rape victims pay for their rape kits."
Do you not read newspapers?
The documents from the city of Wasilla show that she eliminated funding for rape kits during her tenure as mayor. In 2000, Alaska passed a new law to stop her practice, and her police chief complained to the paper.
Paper article:
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/523708.html
Wasilla budget documents:
http://www.cityofwasilla.com/index.aspx?page=136
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Both men were wrong to assault their family members. That doesn't make Palin right. They abused their families. She abused her power. They're all guilty. Deal with it.
If these men abused their families, those family members have legal recourse. The governor is not some vigilante sheriff going around settling scores at their whim. So what if both of these men are total jerks. Palin still abused her power. |
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Yes you are right, most people are smarter than this garbage. I'm just angry right now. I felt I had to strap on the shining armor, mount the warhorse and charge the knaves with a lance of truth, so to speak :)
The basic unfairness of all this, combined with what's at stake, get's me worked up sometimes, and I need a little laugh from some one like you from time to time. Maybe these jerks could help Kim Jong Mentally-Ill brush his teeth and put his depends diaper on in the morning! Ha! Thanks I feel better now:) |
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"She can say whatever she wants to about her kids and it's still none of your damn business. When will you frackin buzzards leave families alon"
I am not talking about her family. I think her family should be left alone (candidates definitely shouldn't make jokes about how ugly candidates children are, like McCain did about Chelsea Clinton back in the day).
I am talking about HER PATENT DISHONESTY. It is about saying things that are not true. I do not say 'so what' to lies. People who lie so frequently and shamelessly can not be trusted.
Also, the firing the chef? She's said that in every single stump speech. maybe if you people actually paid attention to your lady-love, you'd learn something about her. |
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Question: What do the following persons or groups all have in common?
1: Former Alaska Public Safety Commission Walter Monegan fired by Governor Sarah Palin;
2: The eight U.S. Attorneys fired by President George W. Bush;
3: The ninety-three U.S. Attorneys fired by President Bill Clinton;
4: The numerous executive branch employees fired by former Maryland Governor Robert Ehrlich.
Answer - all were "at-will" employees. For those of you on the left, that means they served at the pleasure of the executive (President or Governor) and could be fired at any time for any reason, or no reason at all.
Lets get off this nonsense about why Monegan was fired. Gov. Palin was well within her rights to fire him and needed no reason to do so. |
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If you look at everything presented it is quite obvious the way this is going. Now, if I thought otherwise I would say so. I would still be voting GOP, but I would concede to the fact that NObama had it if he actually did. I laugh at the media and the garbage propaganda out there...this crap is for the dum dums above who believe it. Again...MOST Americans are smarter than that, but sometimes there are a few dum dums who just hold on tight for the ride. The highest rated shows on cable news belong to FOX; non-biased and views from both sides. Katie, Charlie, Campbell, Wolfe, and the rest of them just might be out of a job come the beginning of the year....they already lost Olberman and Matthews. People hear and see what is going on. How about this one that I heard today. Sandra Bernhard (another washed up hollywood airhead) said that "she hopes Palin doesn't come to Manhattan...she just might get gang-raped from her big black frinds". Whatever happenend to true feminism? You know...the kind that doesn't support rape. How disgusting and racist. They need to make a small, third world, communist country for these fools....oh wait, we could send 'em to N. Korea...they would love that socialist environment! |
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Watching all her friends go down, largely because of Sarah Palin, it's not to hard to see why Lyda Green had a smile on when she achieved a little satisfaction at her defamation of the Vice Presidential candidate.
Does anyone care about the truth here?
It's all there for you to learn, if you are not an Obamatron. |
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The truth will free you. It's about time the liberal attack machine wakes up and starts telling the truth, checks their facts, before they run off at the mouth. They accuse the Republicans of running an attack machine. At least the Republican attacks are largely about issues.
http://www.lloydpweaver.net |
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The investigation known as "Tasergate" into whether Sarah Palin “pressured” Walt Monegan the at-will commissioner of Public Safety to fire a trooper who tasered his son, shot a moose without a license, and drove drunk in a marked police car, has become a personal and political attack on the governor by some of the very people Sarah has been fighting against because of their close affiliation with the corrupt and now defunct Veco oil service company.
en. President Lyda Green smiled gleefully as the 3-2 Legislative counsel vote was cast in favor of subpoenaing Todd Palin and 12 others before the legislators investigator.
Lyda is from the same home town as Sarah Palin and has shown her dislike for Sarah ever since Sarah started exposing party and public leader for selling their influence and votes. It’s interesting to note that Sen. Green’s closest allies in the legislature have been convicted of taking bribes or are under investigation for it right now. Rep. Pete Kott, Rep. Vick Kohring, and Rep. Tom Anderson have all been convicted of taking bribes and our spending time in the pen., Sen. Ben Steven’s who Lyda never said no to is under investigation, Sen. Cowdery who she planned with on a regular basis to “help” the oil companies out with is indicted, and Rep. Weyhrach is charged with bribery and extortion.
While Sen. Lyda Green has not been formally charged with taking bribes, it’s interesting that her husband owns an insurance agency and she will not reveal to the Alaska Public Offices Commission whether her husband had VECO as a client. Lyda was very close with Bill Allen the CEO of Veco and Veco was very willing to pay everyone else off, which begs the question, what did Sen. Lyda Green get for her A+ voting record for the Veco graft?
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Still dodging the questions asked of you I see. You are absolutely right that American's are smarter than they are given credit for. If you think for one moment that they will vote Nobama into office you have another thing coming. You can spew your garbage about Palin, you can mock the candidates and the GOP, however, the few of you out there who are so disgustingly ignorant have a huge wake up coming. Polls, polls, polls...you guys hang on to that tighter than your welfare checks! Geez...
NObama has been imploding since March and you are clearly not paying attention if you fail to look right past that. He has nothing, he looks tired, he has taken his wife out of the spotlight (Shhh...Michelle! I don't want the whiteys to know what I think of them just yet!), his enormous leads on McCain are gone, he has lowered himself to "get in their face" arguments, he has yet to take a firm stance on anything...oh except that he firmly wants to take your $$, he is failing, faltering and losing his mind faster than you can say "I am proud of my muslim faith, uh, I mean Christian faith" What an idiot....what an absolute idiot. |
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You call Sarah Palin a "pathological liar". If you don't mind my asking, are you a psychologist or a psychiatrist? Where did you get your degrees? How long has Gov. Palin been a patient of yours? If you are not qualified to perform psychoanalysis, then can you point me to the qualified doctor that has performed this analysis on Gov. Palin?
If I'm off the mark on any of these four assumptions, then it is YOU who is lying. Why are so many on your side so comfortable telling lies in order to make someone else look like a liar? Do you really not see the irony in that? |
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Wow three weeks and we know everything about Sarah,in fact we have many versions of her record and I,m sure every one is completely factual.Now if only we knew what Obama did as a community organizer.I wonder when Obama will release his personal Email address,you know to try to keep everything even.Just saying. |
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I hope and pray you are right. I believe in my heart you are correct, but this Cat5 crapstorm of propaganda and slander MUST be countered.
AMERICA CANNOT AFFORD AN OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.
WE DO NOT NEED A "COMMUNITY ORGANIZER IN CHIEF", WE NEED A COMMANDER IN CHIEF. |
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Indicted Senator Investigating Sarah Palin
Sep 18
Written by: Seth Church
9/18/2008 5:51 PM
Alaskan's deserve better from their legislature than indicted members being put on the very counsel investigating the Governor. Who is to blame? Senator Lyda Green is the Senate President and has been buddy-buddy with Cowdery, often planning how to help the corrupt Veco oil service company get better deals when it came to Alaskan resources and taxes.
Sarah Palin "attacking republican corruption....[Lyda Green] felt accused"
Palin's most outspoken critic from the right has been retiring Senate President Lyda Green, a Wasilla Republican who was an early ideological ally. Green, who dropped her re-election bid in the face of a strong Palin-backed challenger, Sen. Green doesn't stop at listing specific policy disputes.
Green has given several national interviews in the past two weeks. She said her concerns go back to the way Palin handled herself as a candidate for governor, attacking Republican corruption so broadly that everyone felt accused.
It's interesting what Sarah Palin critic Rep. Mike Hawker had to say, "People not only like her, they want to like her. People trust her, and they want to trust her. That's a rare commodity to find in politics." Apparently Sarah isn't just someone -- she's a rare commodity in politics and has the experience of being an effective mayor and governor. Not exactly someone to compare records with in a question of eligibility for the Vice President.
I hate to break it to you Lyda, Sarah Palin "attacking Republican corruption" is hardly a disqualifier for the no. 2 spot on the national ticket. If you felt accused think back to your dealings with the oil and gas companies and how you supported full heartedly every bill the guys who went to jail for taking bribes did. |
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America is smarter than the delusional leaders of the GOP who are trying to sell them and us another fundamentalist puppet ill-equipped to take care of her own family much less the nation. She's a pathological liar, which fits in well with those spewing daily lies on AM talk radio. Seriously, the left has plenty of wackos and liars, but your party has taken it to historical lengths.
And I await to hear more claims from Hugh Hewitt that Obama is "imploding" as he rises in the gallup and electoral vote this week. Wha' happened? |
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and this is exactly what people will remember and think about at the polls. The American people are not stupid and while it is true more people in this country are registered Dems, the actual majority of this country that consider themselves conservative supercedes the "dem voter base". NObama is a grave threat to this country and people know this. Can you imagine the CIC actually disqualified for a secret/top secret position in this country just because of his affiliations with known terrorists? This man actually has the gall to run for our higher office, and he is absolutely fooling himself if he thinks this country will vote that racist thug into the WH. |
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This is not really working out the way you though it would is it? What are you ever going to do with the welfare checks that aren't going to increase? What are you ever going to do without that free for all healthcare program that would be paid by the rest of us taxpayers? What are you ever going to do without getting more in food stamps? What are you ever going to do without the government placing you into a home without first checking to see if you can actually afford that $400,000 home (thank you Bill Clinton for allowing this special treat to the undeserved...you have effectively freaked out this country financially)? What are you ever going to do without the government giving you every little handout that you absolutely DO NOT deserve in the first place? Maybe...get a job and start participating in this society? That might be a good start...even McD's has benefits.
This makes me vomit. These are libs that are the most hard up and desperately trying to destroy someone with morals and values. Shame on you for looking at NObama as more of a "meal ticket" than a change. |
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Is it not fascinating that all of this scrutiny on Governor Palin from the libs is not tolerated when it comes to what Obama has done in his time in public office?
He has accomplished NOTHING but his own political advancement in a horribly corrupt Chicago Democrat machine every bit as bad, if not worse, than that found in Alaska.
OBAMA NEVER CHALLENGED THE SYSTEM, HE JUST PLAYED ALONG FOR HIS OWN GAIN. OBAMA IS A FRAUD, A CARDBOARD CUTOUT, AN AXELROD CREATION OF NO SUBSTANCE.
OBAMA IS FAKE. SARAH PALIN IS REAL.
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Gov. Sarah Palin did exactly what she should have done. She had a conflict with one of the members of her cabinet over the way he was going behind her back and opposing her policies.
In fact, she did not fire him. She offered him a different job in the government and he QUIT.
Any executive has the right to get rid of any staff member on their staff who opposes their policies.
Troopergate is just a political attack on Gov. Palin by her enemies, the same ones who let the oil companies set policy for the government of Alaska.
http://www.lloydpweaver.net |
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to get the spotlight off NObama. These silly little libs will distort anything to keep us from looking at the real problem, and that would be their #1 "messianic" moron. Palin has a solid record and anyone can find "statistical" data to prove otherwise...Google, KOS, Sesame Street whatever. They like to talk about the "bridge", the "chef", the "plane", "troopergate, tazergate, stuporgate"... whatever. That is all their argument has been reduced to, which then is brilliantly destroyed by conservatives who know the truth.
Animal - My favorite illegal immigrant! How about some "stats" on your #1? Or is it just to hard to disprove: ACORN, Rezco, Ayers, Wright, his racist wife, his racist rants, Johnson, Raines, Fannie and Freddie, his economy demolishing tax hikes, his "95%" tax break...AKA stimulus check", his increase in income tax/sales tax/capitol gains tax/anything and everything else tax, his "social healthcare" plan, $10 billion cuts to our military, his "Tiny" Iran comment, his sit down tea and cookies convo with terrorist nations, his HUGE lack of experience, his failure to truly be on the side of the people, his HUGE earmark and pork project involvements, his stupid choice for #2, His muslim...errr...Christian faith, the fact that he would be not the first African-American president but the first Arab-American president (his birth cert shows 50% cauc, 43.75% arab, 6.25% african), his ridiculous gaffes, his teleprompter dependance...my my my..I could go on too. |
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1. Did she not oppose the bridge? Why yes. Yes she did oppose it.
2. She is anti-earmark. Unfortunately, that's the only way to get your taxpayer's money back as governor.
3. She is fiscally conservative. She has cut the budget countless times. And her constituents love her for it.
4. Complete and utter lie. She has never suggested that rape victims pay for their rape kits.
6. She has taken on Alaska's political system multiple times. She has a proven record as a reformer
7. She fired the state chef? When did she lie about this? And... so what?
8. She never said that she sold the state plane on eBay. She said she PUT it on eBay. And she did.
9. None of your damn business. She can say whatever she wants to about her kids and it's still none of your damn business. When will you frackin buzzards leave families alone. Hell, even Obama said to leave her family out of it. You are so full of hatred that you can't even follow your Lord and Savior's commands!
10. See number 9.
Also, number 5 is missing. Did you not pass counting in grade school?
It's really sad when you are so willing to tell lies to make someone else look like a liar.
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Cowdery indicted on corruption charges
Anchorage Republican charged with conspiracy and bribery in Veco case
By LISA DEMER
ldemer@adn.com
Published: July 11th, 2008 02:18 AM
Last Modified: July 11th, 2008 05:12 PM
Nearly two years after the FBI raided his office, state Sen. John Cowdery was indicted on conspiracy and bribery charges.
he Anchorage Republican is accused of scheming with Veco Corp. executives to buy the vote of another senator in the battle for an oil tax favored by North Slope oil producers.
According to the 16-page indictment, Cowdery and others conspired in 2006 to give another senator $25,000, characterized as campaign contributions. The indictment was handed up by a grand jury Wednesday and filed in U.S. District Court on Thursday.
Cowdery was not arrested. He's been summoned to appear in U.S. District Court in Anchorage on Aug. 11.
Gov. Sarah Palin called for Cowdery to resign.
"It was disturbing to learn that another public official has been charged with violating the public trust. I urge Senator Cowdery to step down, for the good of the state," Palin said.
At 78, Cowdery is the oldest member of the Alaska Legislature. Until January, he was chairman of the powerful Rules Committee. He has been in poor health. He isn't running for re-election this year.
The indictment identifies the senator whom Cowdery was trying to influence only as "State Senator A." Fitzgerald said that person is Donny Olson, D-Nome, who in 2006 was running for lieutenant governor and looking for campaign funds.
The document describes a series of phone calls as well as a June 25, 2006, breakfast meeting. Olson, Cowdery and Veco chief executive Bill Allen met at the old Sunshine Grill in Anchorage, Olson's lawyer, Paul Stockler of Anchorage, said Thursday.
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"once the corruption was spotted she dropped support."
No, she didn't. She didn't drop support until well into investigation, when Stevens was INDICTED. The main people she went after were the Murkowskis, not because corruption bothered her, but because she could exploit a weakness to gain more power.
"She never said she fired her personal chef. She said she doesn’t have one."
No, she said she got rid of the chef. Exact words from the acceptance speech:
"I thought we could muddle through without the governor's personal chef - although I've got to admit that sometimes my kids sure miss her."
"Selling the state plane on eBay – She said she “put it up” on EBay not “sold it” there is a huge contrast in the two words."
No, there isn't. Her implication was clear. I guess it depends on what the definition of "is" is.
"Asking her kids' opinions before accepting the nomination (Todd Palin said they didn't tell the kids until after they were on the plane to Ohio). – TwoPound – It was still before the Convention. That is why they call it an “acceptance speech”."
She stated in Ohio that she was accepting the nomination. Are you actually saying that she packed all her family onto a plane before deciding to accept the nomination? Don't play dumb. This woman showed no concern about her family's wishes; that's fine, it's her business. But don't lie about it.
"This one way out there. Even if it was true, Bristol is back at home now!!"
Is she? I thought she was still being drug around the country as a prop for her mother. It's what every pregnant lady wants to be doing.
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Troopergate is going to be in her [Sarah Palin's] favor - (D) Sen. Mike Gravel
Former Democratic United States Senator had this to say about Sarah Palin and "Tasergate:"
“McCain picked a person who is very, very unusual, she [Sarah Palin] has had the courage to put the people and put integrity above party, and so she stood up to the Republican Party and the corruption therein, and in Alaska, and that in my mind was very courageous.”
“Troopergate is going to come out in her favor when they really get down to the details of it; this trooper should have been fired. …if the troopers union didn’t want to step up to the plate, oh no, I got to tell you this is a guy that shouldn’t be wearing a badge, not when he threatens people’s lives.”
”Why does the infraction have to be inferred on her side. Why not the infraction on the inability of the police leadership because of union practices on their inability to get rid of a bad apple. Do they have to wait 'til he kills somebody before they get rid of him?”
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Governor Palin has stepped on many toes in both parties to get done what she has done, for the people.
Have you not read how she rose to her current position? She ran against a powerful former Republican Senator of 22 years in Washington who came home and got the Governor's job, Frank Murkowski. The junior Senator of Alaska is his daughter, Lisa Murkowski. She beat him like a drum in the primaries. Then she ran in the general election against a former two-term Democrat Governor who had reasonable popularity, Tony Knowles, and thought the job was his because of the corruption problems in the Alaska Republican Party. She had to run against him, the Alaska Democrat Party, WITH NO SUPPORT FROM THE ALASKA REPUBLICAN PARTY.
She ran against the whole establishment, without a rich family or big time fundraising connections, and WON. With %65 of the vote. She broke up the insider culture of politicians, and big oil. They are not happy about this at all. They want revenge, they want to destroy her. Hence "Tasergate".
Then McCain picks her for VP, and the National Democrats and Obamatrons parachute in there and add fuel to the fire. They have nothing on this woman. This is all smoke and mirrors to damage her image. In case you did not know, loopy Alaska Democrat former Senator Mike Gravel was on some libtalk radio show, and he said to the dissapointed host that this whole thing will redound to her benefit in the end. He knows what she's done, and the political landscape up there, unlike you all who rely on the corrupt national media who want to destroy her now too.
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'If she didn’t kill it, wouldn’t it be there. The money was granted to the state.'
If she really said 'Thanks but no thanks' why did she take the money? Also, the Senate had removed that earmark before she said a word about it, but gave her the money (which she kept) anyway. She only abandoned it when it was politically untenable, up until that point she had been a ferent supporter.
2. 'Palin’s request paled in comparison to governors before her. Spending was drastically cut each year she was in office.'
OK, she hasn't even been in office two years. Alaska's earmarks requests dwarf every other state in the nation. As mayor of Wasilla, she hired a lobbyist to obtained $27 million in earmarks for a village.
'this is a flat out lie. How does someone leaving a town in debt get an 80% approval rating?'
OK--they didn't do approval polling while she was mayor, that approval rating is related to her time is Governor.
The huge debt she left in Wasilla is documented in Wasilla's yearly budget documents.
http://www.cityofwasilla.com/index.aspx?page=136
It's been discussed all over the Internet, but I thought you'd only accept it by looking at it yourself.
'This policy was put in place in the 1990’s. If the woman had insurance it was charged to the insurance company. The matter was already being taken up by the legislature in Alaska when Palin took office. Nice try.'
No. The matter was not taken up by the legislature until 2000. The policy was in fact instuted by Palin; if you look at the budget documents above, you will see that when Palin came into office, there were funds allocated for paying for forensic rape investigations. During her administration, those funds were cut off.
There is evidence for everything I have said. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid and investigate your Savior a bit. |
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McCain "song bird" traitor is b.s. He even had the opportunity to leave but stayed. That is one area democrats need to leave alone. |
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"Which party is more ethical? Undoubtedly the Republicans."
If one where to tally up the lies on both side, McCain wins hands down and with the most outrageous lies at that.
See Dick Cheyne's favorit site Factcheck.org
If, we are talking about e-mail smears, once again McCain's side winds big time.
See Snopes.com
If were talking about which side supports torture, not very ethical by anyones standard, again, The Republicans are winners. |
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Glad to see someone else is actually reading what Alaskans are saying. I have the same impression as you. Alaskans want to get to the bottom of the firing/job change and stop the corruption in their government, that's all. They are tired of being looked at as one of the most corrupt governments in the USA outside of DC. Palin was elected to do that, now appears to be backtracking and they are very unhappy about that. |
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The 10 republicans on the commission don't like Palin's reforms, and just want to get even? That's your theory? That 80% is going down hill every time Palin lies, last I looked she was at 67% and now, with the cover up, it's bound to go much lower. If you have nothing to hide, don't try. |
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I get so tired of the arguments about which campaign is smarter. They are both smart. That isn't the issue. Which party is more ethical? Undoubtedly the Republicans. They support life and democrats support taking of innocent life. They support upholding the constitution, democrats rewriting it. They support marriage between a man and a woman. Democrats anything that moves. By the time the Democrats are through with us there will be no semblence of the great country we started as. This is a battle for the lifeblood of our society. If we lose this election it may be too late to ever return to decency. This will rile lefties up but you know the say "the truth hurts". |
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Did you not see my two comments above? The facts are the facts.
TROOPER WOOTEN STILL HAS HIS JOB!! SHE DID NOT FIRE HIM!!
COMISSIONER MONEGAN WAS INSUBORDINATE ON THE BUDGET OF HIS DEPARTMENT! HE WENT BEHIND THE GOVERNOR'S BACK AND TRIED TO FUND A PROGRAM OF HIS SHE VETOED AS THE CEO OF THE STATE OF ALASKA, HIS BOSS! THE GOV. REASSIGNED HIM TO ANOTHER DEPT., HE DID NOT LIKE THAT SO MONEGAN QUIT STATE GOVT.!
THIS WHOLE THING IS A PARTISAN REVENGE RAILROAD JOB BY THE PEOPLE WHO DID NOT LIKE HER REFORMS, WHICH GAVE HER AN %80 APPROVAL RATING, %75 OF ALASKA DEMOCRATS!
HELLO?!? TRUTH ANYONE!?!? |
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You do know it's the Alaska republicans who are interested in the trooper-gate scandal. If she fired him because of what he did to her sister, good, but own up to it and take it like a man. |
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… and that certainly means you, ronnie, the above is an expression I appropriated from a fellow I worked with many years ago. In an approximate translation, it is a euphemism for roughing somebody up. I just like the mental picture it gives me. |
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Democrats don't think she deserved beatings, and in fact wish he'd be jailed for it, if he did do it. What liberals and Alaskans, I've been reading the comments on this issue in their papers, don't like is she lied and now she wants to act like she is above the law. If she can't fire him, but did it because he hurt her sister, good for her, I'd do the same, but come clean and stop interfering with the republicans in Alaska who want answers. |
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That poor trooper I wonder what she did to him to make him abuse her.I wonder if Alaska has a chapter of the ACLU that can protect the beleaguered officer from her.Since when did a little female abuse ever stop the dems from their agenda. |
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Palincchio might "and do the hokey-pokey" with Ahmadinejad? Ummmmm, embarassed, anyone? |
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Funny, everytime a conservative's back is against the wall, it always comes down "Well Bubba did it too!" Come on guys, you're better than that! |
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Is there something wrong with attempting to sell state assets on Ebay? |
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Somebody save us! Sarah kicks bad guys’ @$$es!
Just think what she could do in meetings with Ahmadenijad. Heck, she might just get him in a headlock and do the hokey-pokey with him.
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Both sides seem pretty good at twisting facts, that is apparent
Facts should never get in the way of a good twisting.
To me it appears obvious that McCain's staff let him down on vetting Palin.
The "troopergate" investigation started before Palin was announced as the VP selection.
Voted on by a Bipartision committee, voted unanimously to investigate whether there had been an "abuse" of power by Palin.
Palin welcomed the investigation and promised full cooperation.
Now that Palin is the VP choice some inconvient truths/lies/twists may come out, so the truth must be altered to fit the facts, at least until the election is over.
Look at the timeline, the statements by both sides and judge for yourself.
The mission has been accomplished as the Attorney General of Alaska has determined that it is perfectly legal to ignore a subpeona.
If I ever get a subpeona I'll just ignore it, since the rule of law appears to be that's fine.
Lastly why is this not a matter solely between the citizens of Alaska and their governer? |
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“Troopergate” correctly refers to Arkansas state troopers securing babes (e.g. Paula Jones) for Gov. Clinton’s personal pleasure. How about “Threaten the life of the governor’s father” gate.
Too cumbersome, perhaps?
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The hair was standing up on the back of my neck when I saw these two men being interviewed.
And ronnie, do your homework. You don't have a clue what you're talking about and you kids trying to interfere on the internet are really getting tiring and wasting people's time. |
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Amanda, I am a huge fan of yours as of late. You are doing a terrific job debunking this character assassination campaign against Governor Palin. Keep it up, please!
Sometimes though, even defenders of Mrs. Palin like yourself seem to have some errors of fact that get through in your defenses (see my above comment). I understand that this Cat5 crapstorm is coming fast and furious, and I'm not trying to berate you or anything, just point out a factual mistake in your otherwise outstanding article.
Mr. Monegan was not fired. He was reassigned, and chose to leave State Government rather than accept the new position. That is one fact that get lost in all this, and I hope you will make that clear in the future. She went out of her way to protect this man's professional reputation, and what did she get in return? False accusations of abuse of power over a family dispute. These are two entirely separate issues here, as she herself made clear to Sean Hannity last night.
Again, Amanda you are awesome, keep up your great work. You are a rising star, and I'm glad for you. Congratulations on your engagement, also! (Drat! Foiled again!) |
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Let's set record straight.
Palin DID put the state plane on Ebay.
She never said she sold it there.
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This is truly amazing they will lie, cheat, hack steal anythig for power and money, the latest I heard was Obama ji championing a fair pay scale for women, after reviewing his payroll it seems that he is only paying 78% to women while the men enjoy a full 100% pay for the same job, G. Ferrarro says well he is for straightening out the deficency in pay accusing McCain while he does the same, I guess he talks alot and doesn't walk the walk in other word do as I say not as I do. schmuck What a waste of a government paycheck hopefully he will go back to doing what he was doing before nothing voting present The momo make me so angry I need to turn off the chennel when he starts speaking, how do you know when Obama is lying? when his lips are moving. |
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The prolific use of the term "Troopergate" by the MSM has one purpose, to get the term reassigned from a true abuse of power on the part of Bill Clinton to an actual case of reform once this is cleared up the term will disappear entirely. Ultimately this is what the MSM wants to happen.
Please stop using it in reference to Gov. Palin and use something more appropriate. Something like; Alaskan State Police Reform, or The Corrupt Official Purge, or maybe the Old Boys Network Restructuring initiative. |
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are fogetting one thing, these trolls are PAID to
spew the vomit they put out on these threads.
But isn't it typical of the drug numbed minds that populate what was once the Democrat Party, to project their own vileness on other more decent people.
It didn't matter at all the Bubba was a rapist, not only of Juanita Broadrick, but also the Miss America from Arkansas I forget her name. I'm willing to bet that these two women are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to sexual assault by the fmr. rapist in chief.
That they completely disregard the obvious child abuse that Wooten is guilty of, shows us the reasoning behind their abject worship of someone
so cold and inhumane as to refuse to try to save the lives of babies born alive from induced labor abortion. And that to me is not only child abuse/but also a form of torture and we all know how much they care about torturing human beings..that is..the alleged torture by our eeeevilll military of terrorists that wouldn't bling twice before they beheaded these fools. But maybe they don't think beheading is all that bad...for others..since they also support the same creep that's also endorsed
partial birth abortion..again torture and execution.
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I really wish everyone, including people trying to defend Gov. Palin on this, would actually listen to HER. If you watch the interview with Hannity, he asked her about this "Tasregate" directly.
She made it clear that she did not "fire" Mr. Monegan. She reassigned him to a different position in the state government. He did not want to be reassigned, so HE QUIT. She did not abuse her power at all.
Monegan did not agree with the budget policies of the Governor concerning his department. So what did he do? He allied himself with Palin's political adversaries and took an unauthorized trip to D.C. to get the money he wanted in his budget from Senator Ted Stevens(R-AK) and Rep. Don Young (R-AK), on the state's dime no less!
The trooper in question, Mr. Wooten, IS STILL ON DUTY! HE WASN'T FIRED!
This whole investigation is a sham from the get go. I'm glad to see they are fighting back on this, and she will come out clean, and articulate, by the way. |
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Palin fired corrupt public servants. Obama surrounded himself by corrupt public servants. Which is the real scandal?
If Palin was Obama, she likely would have fired:
a) Rezko
b) Ayers
c) Wright
d) Daley
e) Michelle
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Amanda and John have provided an excellent defense. The guv said she welcomes this probe. I look forward to Todd wowing the probers and the public with his imminent testimony. Then all those bad Dems will have to go back to their closet and pout.
Huh? Whatsat? He ain't talkin'? |
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Now I feel bad. I've been around long enough to know her when she was Kimberly. I try to to argue with the mentally challenged, and I'm a bit ashamed now. |
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Animalgirl is the same poster - she keeps changing her name - she was Kimberly then Giselle then Hazel now Animalgirl.
Looks like animalgirl is getting ready for another lonely weekend in her dorm room all by herself! |
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In respect to #3, it IS true that she left office with millions in debt, BUT that debt was taken on to complete a major building project, i.e. a sports arena. This was approved by voters in Wasilla, and Palin also left the town with a plan in place to responsibly pay off the debt, and they are paying it off. |
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Sarah Palin sought to have two bad people fired from their government jobs. She had every reason to do so. As governor, she would have been negligent in her duties if she did not fire Monegan for his actions. How much simpler can it be?
Yet the liberals don't want to see reality. They don't want to bother with the facts. As usual, they want to spin this issue into something that it is not. I really pity liberals. They live in a world of delusion. Unfortunately for the rest of us, people who actually take the time to understand the issues, everyone's vote counts the same. |
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I wonder who will be the first person to come up with the T-Shirt, "Don't Tase Me Dad".....LOL |
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1. "At will" employees serve at the will of the governor. Should the governor decide she no longer needs their services they can be let go at anytime. Even is she didn't like the way the guy smelled there is nothing improper here. The fact that he beat his wife only show the strength of Palin's judgement.
2. The Obama has nothing on her so there is a need to devise slanderous lies that the disgraceful MSM publishes. |
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I'm a staunch McCain/Palin supporter and believe this effort in the Alaska Legislature is a hit-job.... but whether or not Monegan beat his wife doesn't matter.
He was hired.
When he undermined Gov Palin on budget issues she offered him another position.
After refusing the new position, he was fired.
The guy obviously is scum - but "scummy" doesn't give a license to discriminate against him in his job.
Gov Palin did the right thing! Not because he beat his wife... but because he abused his position and tried to undermine the Governors budget efforts.
One does have to think Monegan doesn't respect women, though - giving credence to Gov Palin's assertion of his undermining her. |
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6. Taking on Alaska's good ol boy network (she ran a 527 for Stevens, was endorsed by him for Governor, and took thousands in contributions from Veco, the company involved in the Steven's indictment) – TwoPound – once the corruption was spotted she dropped support. Much like Obama has tried to drop his 10 to 20 corrupt buddies in Chicago.
7. Firing the state chef : - TwoPound - She never said she fired her personal chef. She said she doesn’t have one.
8. Selling the state plane on eBay – She said she “put it up” on EBay not “sold it” there is a huge contrast in the two words.
9. Asking her kids' opinions before accepting the nomination (Todd Palin said they didn't tell the kids until after they were on the plane to Ohio). – TwoPound – It was still before the Convention. That is why they call it an “acceptance speech”.
10. Acting lovingly toward her daughter when she said she was pregnant (she kicked her out and Bristol had to go live with an aunt). : TwoPound – This one way out there. Even if it was true, Bristol is back at home now!!
I'll stop at ten, but that's not even half of them--what that Palin has said is actually true?
TwoPound – Bring Em’ On – it is fun exposing your lies and setting the record straight.
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Response to Animal Girl :
1. The bridge to nowhere : TwoPound – If she didn’t kill it, wouldn’t it be there. The money was granted to the state.
2. Being anti-earmark : TwoPound – Earmarks were added into the states budget by others like the Fish & Game dept etc. Palin’s request paled in comparison to governors before her. Spending was drastically cut each year she was in office.
3. Being fiscally conservative (left a town of 6000 20 million in debt) : TwoPound – this is a flat out lie. How does someone leaving a town in debt get an 80% approval rating?
4. Instituting a policy to charge rape victims for the investigation : TwoPound – This policy was put in place in the 1990’s. If the woman had insurance it was charged to the insurance company. The matter was already being taken up by the legislature in Alaska when Palin took office. Nice try.
(btw) you don't have a number (5) in your post.
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Townhall has a number of bad poster, but I am convinced that you are the most deeply moronic of them all. You couldn't identify a cogent argument to save your life.
Sarah Palin had the decency to remove two scumbags from public service, and you decided to attack her state because they live there?!? Trust me, girl, Georgia is no utopia. Georgia, the armpit of America, ranks 12th in the murder per capita rate. Atlanta alone had 1500 violent crimes last year. Good job deflecting that to Alaska, though.
What is more infuriating is that you can attack Palin for firing two scumbags, but you raise Obama, a man who is associated with a) domestic terrorists, b) anti-Americans, c) racists, d) corrupt Chicago machine politicians to some Messianic level.
I feel deeply sorry for you. I'm not sure how you get through life living in that little fantasy land of yours. |
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Why is it that the left constantly defends and tries to to justify bad behavior? Amimalgirl, or Taft, or Will maybe you can explain that one to us less than progressives on this site.
Hate to break it to everyone on the "I hate Sarah Palin" train, but in America, we practice what is known as "at will" employment. Meaning, if I am your boss and you show up to work on day, I can fire you for any or no reason whatsoever. If you have a contract for employment that would be different and you could still be fired for violation of any/all of that contract.
Monegan has been recorded on camera stating that very same thing, I believe his words were someting to the effect of 'if I show up for work and she doesn't like my hair, she can fire me'.
Get over yourselves you left wing loons, you make yourselves sound worse and worse every day. |
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So once again the liberals here and elsewhere want to claim that an executive using their authorized power to terminate the employment of a political appointee is somehow an abuse of power, even though they saw no such abuse of power when a Democratic President used the same power to fire all sitting U.S. Attorneys, let alone when he used to the FBI to frame employees, to illegally gather confidential files on his political opponents, or when he tampered with a witness and committed perjury before a federal grand jury.
This would be laughable it is wasn't demonstrative of what is so clearly wrong with our country. None of these people care at all about truth or the rule of law; ethics is a word they throw around only when they can use it against someone else.
Firing someone you have the authority to fire for whatever reason you choose is not an abuse of power, regardless of why you chose to exercise that power. Lying to a grand jury and stonewalling investigators with the power of the presidency is. None of you people have even an ounce of credibility on this issue. |
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The Democratic Party has become such a joke, and the funny or sad part is they do not even realize it. |
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animalgirl writes: Friday, September, 19, 2008 10:52 AM
eddie too
Palin's lies dwarf Obama's. She's lied about:
1. The bridge to nowhere
2. Being anti-earmark
3. Being fiscally conservative (left a town of 6000 20 million in debt)
4. Instituting a policy to charge rape victims for the investigation
6. Taking on Alaska's good ol boy network (she ran a 527 for Stevens, was endorsed by him for Governor, and took thousands in contributions from Veco, the company involved in the Steven's indictment)
7. Firing the state chef
8. Selling the state plane on eBay
9. Asking her kids' opinions before accepting the nomination (Todd Palin said they didn't tell the kids until after they were on the plane to Ohio).
10. Acting lovingly toward her daughter when she said she was pregnant (she kicked her out and Bristol had to go live with an aunt).
I'll stop at ten, but that's not even half of them--what that Palin has said is actually true?
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Animalgirl- Did you re-read your post? You really need to stop using The Enquirer and US Weekly as your sources. |
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We need to change the name of this "issue" from troopergate to tasergate.
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You have some proof that Democrats are shutting down the Jefferson investigation? |
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For the libs male, maybe you love to beat your wife so you are defending your position.
For female libs, you just couldn't accept the truth. |
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Whether Monegan is a wife-beater or not has no bearing on whether Monegan was fired for personal reasons. However, given that evidence from the official emails back up Palin's account that he was fired over insubordination on budget issues and given than Monegan himself has said that the firing was not because of Wooten, I tend to believe Palin's side of things.
Whether this investigation is being conducted fairly and impartially has become a real concern. Statements from Hollis French and the lead investigator suggest that the goal is to "get" Palin rather than get at the truth. And that is indeed a problem.
This is really my only regret with the selection of Sarah Palin to the vice presidency. It does appear that there's plenty of corruption still in Alaska, and a little part of me wishes she'd stay to finish the job there. But Washington is also corrupt, it was corrupt under the Republicans and became more corrupt when the Democrats took over Congress. People like her and John McCain are needed in Washington to fight the Jack Murthas and Chris Dodds and Barack Obamas in Congress who fiddle with nonessential laws while the economy burns around them, taking money and advise from the culprits while making the American people pay for their mistakes. |
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Democrats are not "pushing" troopergate. The commission has 10 republicans and 4 democrats. |
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of the left's and Democrat's tactics. Afterall, the Democrat Hillary Clinton supporters have so lost the ability to think for themselves that when Obama and his handlers tell them, "Bend over so we can give it to you like we gave it to Hillary", they respond with a question, "Where do you want us when we bend over?" |
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Knowing that this man that this man is also a wife beater makes me cheer his firing even more!
The MSM will not report this because it will only endear Gov. Palin even more to women across the country. |
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Does anyone else find it Ironic that the libs are calling people liars when we had to endure 8 years of slick willie's lies and escapades? Telling lies wasn't a big deal to them back then, but all of a sudden Palin's (alleged) lies is a hot button with these people?
Little hint, the election will be decided on the issues, not the made up, twisting of facts that you folks want to spend all your time talking about.... |
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Where I come from lawyers slither.
you are what's wrong in America. To protect, defend and also to elect an infant murderer...aka...infanticide is commendable.
Get ready you will be asked to be "patriotic" and pay my taxes...
Animalgirl? you give us another reason not to clone "animals".
Now shush
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It's the perfect Rove strategy, delay the trial and the real issue of abuse of power, and lie and smear away, and make charges like wife beater. The commission made up of mostly republicans is said to be out to get her, or something like that. |
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Monegan and Wooten probably had abusive parents growing up and these poor, poor men just didn't have any choice due to their repressed memories.
Governor Palin should have offered this victims of mean spirited society help such as therapy to work through their pain and trauma they suffered in childhood.
Barrack Obama would have done that, he would have talked personally with these men and guide them on the righteous path of decency and make them replace the hate in their hearts with peace, love, and serenity.
Barrack Obama would have gotten into their faces and cast Monegan's and Wotten's demons asunder. |
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Thanks Henderson! Truer words were never spoken. |
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On any other day, the lefties, especially the women's libbers, would be going after any wife beater.
Not here, brother! Much better to show their REAL colors (not caring about women at all) and go after someone on the right, no matter how protracted.
No sir, the hypocrites on the left will drag this out as long as they can, with major help from the MSM, in an attempt to puncture the McCain/Palin campaign.
Get wise, women. The left does not hold you or your rights in any particular regard. This hypocrisy just highlights that.
Hypocrites. |
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Smears like this can now run wild because the Palin's aren't going to cooperate in the the scandal, not until after the election. Once again the truth gets mugged.
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There were other issues with the guy who did get fired and he was let go for insubordination. He worked for her and didn't complete his duties and what was requested of him. She was within her right.
"Meanwhile, at the beginning of the Wednesday 10am hour of FNC’s America’s Newsroom, co-anchor Megyn Kelly cited the new evidence: "...now we learn this morning that e-mails actually back up Palin's claim that Monegan was fired because of insubordination over budget issues and not having anything to do with that trooper issue." In a report that followed, correspondent Dan Springer explained: "Those e-mails are between the Palin budget director and her top cop, Walt Monegan. And they do seem to suggest that there were some problems brewing in this administration before Monegan was fired. Now the McCain-Palin camp is releasing those e-mails and making the case that Monegan was fired for insubordination, not because he refused to fire Palin's ex-brother-in-law."
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2008/09/17/cb s-early-show-focuses-palin-trooper-gate-leaves-out-key-fact s |
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So you are telling me the liberals are taking the side of the criminals (monegan, wooten) and trying to find fault the law abiding folks (Palin)....suprise suprise, you don't say.... |
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See how ronnie hits back. I must admit ronnie and lefties are beyond my intelligence. |
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you attack a woman defending other women from abuse?
Something about that does not make sense. |
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This is why I left the democrat party. The feminist did this for Bill Clinton.
Defending Clinton while slamming the nuts and sluts as they called them.
Here we go again. Slamming this amazing female governor of Alaska. All the while defending scum like the trooper and the even scummier Commissioner.
Ronnie your an idiot. The commissioner was under her jurisdiction. She doesn't need a reason. |
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The wackos are pretty desperate with this article. He's a wife beater, huh? Let's see, was that the [first or second or third or fourth] reason why he was fired. Trying to see if this excuse sticks to the wall? Amanda, this is pretty pathetic. Thank God that the wacko hold on our country is about to end and real Americans can undo the damage done by you folks. |
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General session doesn't start until January. She won't be found guilty of anything. The Governor of Alaska can fire her OWN appointees for looking at her wrong. This whole thing is a scam to bring her down for doing the right thing. After all, if he was still working there the Dems would be saying "hey, what about that wife beater you have working for you". |
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Amanda, here is a Truth challenge.
Prove that the Democrats in Alaska acted in a non-bipartisan fashion. Prove that Democrats alone started this investigation and have been the sole party to conduct.
Also prove that any Republicans who have happened to have supported this investigation prior to Sarah Palin being nominated, still do so.
Also prove that the Republicans who have flip-flopped on supporting this investigation did so BEFORE Sarah Palin was selected VP because, taa daa, Monnegan was a wife beater.
Finally, further prove that the Republicans who supported this investigation early on did NOT no this guy was a wife beater, the fact that he is a wife beater is new "news".
Republicans in Alaska who have flip-flopped on this investigation did so, not because this guy was a wife beater, but because Sarah Palin was now running for national office.
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because no one in any other state has ever beat their wife.
Let's see...what has happen in Illinois (YOUR candiate's State) recently? Oh yeah! Drew Peterson killed two of his wives. One of which was covered up by his buddies at the police department and the other we are still searching for her body. Oh and as of 8/23/08, violent crime is up in Chicago 1.8% since last year. I'm willing to bet some of those acts were domestic.
What state are you from? We could just look up the domestic problems in your state. :) |
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Palin Fails to Vent Head of Alaska State Police Properly
Allows Wife Beater to Assume Top Post
Covers up by Firing Commissioner Based on Non Related Budget Issue
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Palin's lies dwarf Obama's. She's lied about:
1. The bridge to nowhere
2. Being anti-earmark
3. Being fiscally conservative (left a town of 6000 20 million in debt)
4. Instituting a policy to charge rape victims for the investigation
6. Taking on Alaska's good ol boy network (she ran a 527 for Stevens, was endorsed by him for Governor, and took thousands in contributions from Veco, the company involved in the Steven's indictment)
7. Firing the state chef
8. Selling the state plane on eBay
9. Asking her kids' opinions before accepting the nomination (Todd Palin said they didn't tell the kids until after they were on the plane to Ohio).
10. Acting lovingly toward her daughter when she said she was pregnant (she kicked her out and Bristol had to go live with an aunt).
I'll stop at ten, but that's not even half of them--what that Palin has said is actually true?
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I love it when wingnuts accuse liberals of being hateful. Most of hate and slime and filth comes from your quarters my friend. The racism, the bigotry, the homophobia, the intolerance all come from wingnut land. Take a look in the mirror once in a while. WWJD? |
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eco dove é a sua testa???
you go get the panettone, chauvinist pig!
No wonder your view of the world is as narrow. Did you perhaps see your reflection when gazing at the troopers picture. |
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"Democrats pushing "Troopergate" are getting closer and closer to defending the records of two abusive men who have threatened family members and on occasion taken violent action towards them."
Unh hunh.
The Truth is that Alaskan state government is a Republican majority.
The "Republicans" of this state were responsible for starting this investigation and now they are going to kill it.
The Republicans in the state of Alaska only turned against this investigation after it was announced that Sarah was the VP candidate.
Which only goes to show you the true "moral" fiber of Republicans: power comes before ethics.
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Sorry for being so immature. I'll try to write up a more mature post later on. How about you do the same? |
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What a bunch of class acts. |
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At least that is what Kieth Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Sandra Berhard, and the rest of Obama's supporters probably think. |
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you are revealing you immaturity. You sound like you are about 14 years old. Am I right?
A mature person could come up with their own ideas to post. |
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It didn't take the revelation that these guys were both wife beaters to know that the Main Stream Media is RADICALLY unjust and unfair in the coverage of the percieved sins of conservatives and and the sins of liberals. What I mean is - why aren't you guys even interested in a story that you would celebrate if it were a Democrat woman?
Is anyone so stupid as to believe that if you found out the same exact facts of the stories of what Sarah Palin's EX-brother-in-law has done, with on ly one change. Let's say "She didn't ask him to be fired." O the outrage. O the cronyism. This man was drunk in his patrol car. He hunted illegally. He "TAZED" his own step son. And he made terroristic threats to a school teacher and a member of the local steel worker's union. All this while he hides behind the authority of his STATE POLICE BADGE. And his sister-in-law DIDN"T FIRE HIM and those who protected him.
It's Outrageous!
These kind of disputes happen in the families of both Democrats and Republicans. But the outrage here is that the agenda of the MSM is so onesided that they can't even tell the story fairly, even if it would be in their own best interest. Just as the war in Iraq disappeared when it began to go well for our troops and the president, when it becomes clear that this willhelp and not harm Republicans and Sarah Palin, the story will not be corrected on the same front pages it was trumpted on, if it is told at all.
As it is, they, the Democrats, the feminists, and the media are defending everything they hypocritically claim to stand against, and fighting someone who REALLY stands up to power, and injustice, and who fights it no matter who is behind it.
Keep it up, folks. In 3 weeks, you have opened more eyes than 20 years of talk radio. It's a pleasure to watch. Keep... it... Up! |
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I do not agree that BarryO's campaign is smarter. Do you think it is smart to tell lies that are obvious?
For example, Obama saying McCain-Palin is tied to DC politics when McCain-Palin only have 26 years of time in DC and Obama-Biden have 40 years or 54% more time in DC.
Lies like that could get him laughed right out of the campaign.
Or Obama's lie about change. Obama's Democrats just passed a huge tax increase in the House Wednesday night. Obama has no idea about economics and tax policy. He will raise taxes and it will negatively affect every American except maybe the ultra wealthy like Buffet and Gates who hire a platoon of accountants and lawyers to manipulate the income tax code.
Obama's only apparent skill is his ability to read a teleprompter. His handlers write their message and Obama dutifully reads it.
I hope and I believe the American people are too smart to elect Obama. |
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You must admit the Sarah Palinocchio campaign is much smarter than Obama-Biden. They can spin everyting to sexism. If you were a Palin compaign staff, how would you relate this "Troopergate" to sexism? |
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You must admit BHussein Obama campaign is much smarter than McCain-Palin. They can spin everyting to racism. If you were a Obama compaign staff, how would you relate this "Troopergate" to racism? |
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all this other stuff has nothing to do with her unethical behavior. Nice try. Now go get me some moose jerky! |
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You have to go on CNN and rub the witch's (campbell) face in this fact. Use your gentler kinder "girly" manner to let them know "oh, why Campbell" you mean no one told you about this?" But of course you wouldn't have known... otherwise you would have been "making the news" instead of "reporting the news" which is our job. |
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