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Monday, May 26, 2008
"The Warrior Caste"
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 10:36 AM
MudvilleGazette's Greyhawk reposts a moving essay on the men and women who serve in the military.

To those in uniform or who have served who wander through here today or any day, thank you for your service.

The New York Times' David Carr has a column describing the declining coverage of the war, and though we disagree on why that decline has occurred, Carr does a great service by pointing out that the MSM is abandoning its central mission in a time of war --to report fully on the course of the conflict.  Carr also includes a reminder of the awful cost born by the soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines and by families of the fallen:
Last Thursday, Steve and Linda Ellis of Baker City, Ore., held a funeral for their daughter, Army Cpl. Jessica Ann Ellis. Corporal Ellis, a 24-year-old combat medic, died May 11 in Baghdad, a victim of a roadside bomb during her second tour of Iraq. She had been injured just three weeks before in a similar attack, but chose to go back out. She was assigned to the Second Brigade Special Troops Battalion, Second Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division and had curly, unruly hair, which brought her the nickname “Napoleon Dynamite” early in her military career.

More than 300 people gathered around this collective wound at St. Francis de Sales Cathedral, according to The Baker City Herald. In the funeral Mass, Bishop Thomas Connolly spoke plainly of her contribution.

“She was a good medic, well-trained and as brave as could be,” the newspaper quoted him as saying.

On Saturday, her parents received an e-mail message from one of the colleagues in Iraq she was charged with looking after.

“There are wounds that don’t show on the outside,” he wrote. “She gave me the best medicine for what I had — hope and love.”

In a phone call Sunday, Mr. Ellis set aside his grief to describe his loss and the loss to the country she served.

“She wanted to be there for her guys; she told us that,” he said. “She gave the largest sacrifice a person possibly could, selflessly, like she did every day of her life.”

He added, “Jessica was a child who had no care in the world, none, besides making you smile, besides making you feel better.”

Since 9/11, the country has not been attacked, and that is because the American military has kept the enemy on the run and killed or captured them across the globe, but at a cost of more than 4,500 dead and thousands more wounded.   Today is the official day for remembering those who died defending the country, but all of media ought to be assisting all of America to do so every day.


View in ascending order View in descending order
dudley writes: Thursday, May, 29, 2008 8:41 PM
No, princess
you are a tiresome propagandist, TZ. What's happening in your personal life? Gettin' any? Say somethin' good about the family. How about them Red Sox?
MaryStella writes: Thursday, May, 29, 2008 7:27 PM
sloandawg Neo,
Surely, clearly, you are wise, and funny too.
Let no one deny the problems
======nor dare to say
== it is not his =====
===== let the web of deceit
====idly spin.............
.........that unnecessary,
........ strand
=====of great tangled web of deceit

George Soros, does not have the interest and love of America, sadly, He is in full charge of many political organizations. Iranian president Ahmadinedjad, is a lunatic with deep hatred of West, who believes his mission is to bring back the 12th Imam Mahdi, through Armageddom to establish his world of Islam.
Last month, Tehran hosted an international conference, Titled
"A World Without America."
dudley writes: Thursday, May, 29, 2008 6:44 PM
Neo
Clean up real good? Nah, I'm an educator. Feel real good. Like you do, volunteer ya labor, so you help your older neighbor. Little po'm, Neo.
NeoConScum writes: Thursday, May, 29, 2008 10:16 AM
sloandawg...Your Aptitude Is Spot ON,
Dude! Very funny and absolutely accurate.

MaryStella, our Iranian-American Princess, knows very well the price we pay for kissing Tyrants' Kiesters. Dudds, poor little gov't schooler, is, like his candidate, CLUELESS. But, hey, they both clean up real good.

A comfort, huh?
sloandog writes: Wednesday, May, 28, 2008 10:45 PM
Nice poem dud!
I wish I could rhyme like that,I just don't have the aptitude for it.You said people all over the world are not right wing,I wonder what the islamist jihadists are? Will they kill us from the right or the left? Maybe if we recite poetry to them they will stop killing us.Let me try:
Sticks and stones can break my bones but suicide bombers can never h.... Ah like I said I don't have the aptitude for it.
NeoConScum writes: Wednesday, May, 28, 2008 10:12 PM
Dudds...The Aftermath of Gov't Schooling
is, well...shocking. Lemme guess...a Sociology major?
dudley writes: Wednesday, May, 28, 2008 7:26 PM
Marystella
Think about money
Who in Texas has it, honey.
Think about failure of ideas
Neoconservative, if you please.
And give a thought to the war
we are fighting, what for?
Consider what Americans think
about the election,
They think we've been heading
in the Wrong Direction.
The world is full of people who
are not right wing,
like you, like You.
A good thing, too.
dudley writes: Wednesday, May, 28, 2008 5:02 PM
Sadie
You have a faculty for missing the truth. What torch held high made any difference to the soldiers of World War I? Many more died after the poem was written, including the poet. The direct result, when it came, was World War II.

Your comparisons are faulty on an elemental level. Holocaust survivors will tell you about Hitler's futile war on the Jews; the South fought the Civil War to defend slavery, futile;, the British Empire engaged in a futile attempt to turn back the tide of revolution. Current events have their own logic; we'll have to see about them.

Your personal comments are no surprise from a born liar. Answer the questions: what unit were you in, what stockade were you in?
MaryStella writes: Wednesday, May, 28, 2008 1:02 AM
Dantana, ( More...)!
Many alliance members think the Democrat Party's future requires ideological re-branding.
For now "progressive" is a political winner over "liberal".
MaryStella writes: Wednesday, May, 28, 2008 12:22 AM
Dantana, Right on the Money!
George Soros, is the Father of All
"progressive infrastructure" block committed building organized to tilt American politics to the extreme left.
It starts with Soros Democracy Alliance, (road to socialism), at least 400 organizations in the Democracy Alliance, database are eligible for indirect funding from Uncle Soros, then there will be some 380 subgroups.
Of course, all Democracy Alliance partners pledge and should be able to raise millions as well (this time)! Mr. Lewis, CEO Progressive Insurance of Ohio, another billionaire partner of Soros, hold regular meetings.
In 2006 elections,the alliance gave $22 million to 16 groups focused on electoral politics. These Groups included the Center for Community Change, USAction, ACORN, EMILY's List and the Sierra Club.
Here below are some, there is no publicly available tally of Democacy Alliance-approved grants, but here are some grant recipients:
Center for American Progress, think tank recieved at least $9 million, from Soros, Lewis, and Sandlers.
Democracy: A Journal of Ideas, Dem.Alliance gave $25,000 for start up, the Soros Open Society Inst. gave $50,000.
People for American Way
New Democratic Network, amount unknown!
Progressive Majority: This group created 2001, focuses electing left-wingers at local, state level, at least $5 million.
Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW): This Soro-funded group sees itself as a left-wing version to judicial Watch.
Center for Progressive Leadership.
Association of Community Organiszations for Reform Now(ACORN).
EMILY's List.
America Votes: another 527 orgs.,received $6million commitment from Soros.
Air America: has invested over the years $10 million!, at least.
Sierra Club.
Center for Community Change.
USAction.
Catalist.
Employment Policy Institute.
Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.
AmericanForeignPolicy.org.: A new startup, promoting a progressive national security and foreign policy.

S/A86 writes: Tuesday, May, 27, 2008 10:22 PM
DUDster, stuck in the MUD, sir
""Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you, from failing hands, we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.""

This composition is hardly about 'futility' of war. Ask the survivors of Bergen-Belsen, Auschwitz about the 'futility' of war, DUDster.

Frederick Douglas thought quite a bit of the 'futility' of fighting a war to maintain the union, right wrongs and free Black Americans, Dudster.

The 800 men, who stuck it out through starvation and bitter cold at Valley Forge, and became the leavening the heart and sould of the U.S. Army thought quite a bit of your 'futility.'

And, freed from the tyranny of the Taliban and of the Ba'ath, others might think a little different about the 'futility' of war, you brain-dead, dope huffing, maggot imbecile.
Bambi writes: Tuesday, May, 27, 2008 3:58 PM
In Flanders Field
Thanks I had to memorize the poem in Canada.
dudley writes: Tuesday, May, 27, 2008 3:54 PM
A slight correction
In Flanders Fields is about the futility of war, the poet one of its victims. And WWI is considered among the most futile of wars, since it led not to peace, but to war, WWII. Sadie, you could not be more wrong about France, no surprise, since you're making it all up and "borrowing" your quotes from the web. Honoring soldiers is a very different thing from fighting wars.
NeoConScum writes: Tuesday, May, 27, 2008 11:13 AM
A86...Now, There You Go Again...
Making sense. We've cautioned you about that before, A86.

For a taste of those Flanders Fields, may I suggest Lynn Macdonald's first oral history of the Grat War: "They Called It Passchendaele".
S/A86 writes: Tuesday, May, 27, 2008 9:35 AM
PL: you are welcome
And we started losing the 'citizen soldier' ethos around 1941, when it was realized that Europeans could not be trusted to handle security in their own continent and that aggravators amuck could threaten the entire world.

Subsequent to WW2, the closest we have come to a 'citizen soldier' scenario occured when we had a strict draft.

Some, usually lefties who would NEVER serve, have called the all volunteer military an economic and judicial draft.

Rather than ensuring our security and spreading the risk of defense among the classes, the draft, or actually the threat of a draft, has remained a potent lash and fear inducer. Charles Rangel playfully adumbrated a draft in Congress, in 2004, but even he refused to vote for his own bill.

While the thought of watching the Bush twins, or Karenna Gore-Schiff unloading a 5-ton truck in Mosul on a 122 degree afternoon is emotionally delicious, professional soldiers loathe the 'cry-baby,' malingering, barracks lawyer attitude of the typical American draftee.

It is, I do not need to point out, that emotion that the radical, anti-military Left seeks to tap in advancing Its political cause.
Patriotic Liberal writes: Tuesday, May, 27, 2008 8:35 AM
S/A86
I remember we had to commit that poem to memory in sixth grade. Our teacher told us the story and there was thoughtful and solemn silence when she was through. This was a public school--in California.

Thanks for the post. It really gave pause..
Patriotic Liberal writes: Tuesday, May, 27, 2008 8:29 AM
Warrior Caste
Out of curiosity, what happened to "citizen soldier"?
NeoConScum writes: Tuesday, May, 27, 2008 6:49 AM
May 5th / 1:27pm / HH Post / Bill Ayers
standing, in all his dweeby arrogance, on our flag. You know, the flag that these men and women have and continue to sacrifice their lives for.

Get used to that photo, Lefty DemoRants. Trust me.

:-) Oh, I'm just luvin' the upcoming campaign. The 527s are gonna have WAY too much to work with from B.Hussein O's on-record associations, speeches and Q & A's.
NeoConScum writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 10:47 PM
A86:Wonderful 'Flanders Fields' Thanks !
I have half a bookshelf dedicated to Passchendaele, July-November, 1917.

In Flanders Fields.
hvs writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 10:26 PM
Well even the nuts agree on the price of
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az =view_all&address=102x3326291
dantana writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 10:17 PM
Soros again...
Obama is getting a direct feed from George Soros...thus his fund raising.

Something's not tracking between Hillary stomping his arse in most the major states, his barely winning the popular vote and his fundraising.

This guy is an empty suit with NOTHING to say policy wise.

I smell Soros the puppet master.
S/A86 writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 10:03 PM
In Flanders Fields
In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the dead. Short days ago,
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved and now we lie
In Flanders fields

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you, from failing hands, we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields


It is good en Francaise, too, but I think it is against the law to recite in France anymore, diversity and all of that...

Au champ d'honneur, les coquelicots
Sont parsemés de lot en lot
Auprès des croix; et dans l'espace
Les alouettes devenues lasses
Mêlent leurs chants au sifflement
Des obusiers.

Nous sommes morts,
Nous qui songions la veille encor'
À nos parents, à nos amis,
C'est nous qui reposons ici,
Au champ d'honneur.

À vous jeunes désabusés,
À vous de porter l'oriflamme
Et de garder au fond de l'âme
Le goût de vivre en liberté.
Acceptez le défi, sinon
Les coquelicots se faneront
Au champ d'honneur.
hvs writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 9:54 PM
SEEHAWK
I agree...Gorelick's duplicitous actions, made worse by her sitting on the 9/11 panel, are inexcusable.
The characters I mentioned in the previous comment were all in "Wag the Dog" movie....which reinforces your point about Senate inaction.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 9:45 PM
hvs
We didn't unravel the plot because of the Jamie Garlicks's wall...but never mind the facts!And Clinton's irresponsible behavior while pretending to be commander-in-chief is the exact reason the Senat should have voted in favor of impeachment.
hvs writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 9:40 PM
Neo, I saw that
on Powerline.It is stunning in its ignorance, arrogance and condescension. This guy is without a clue and surrounded by, well, ignorance and arrogance.

On Memorial Day he lectures us on sexual harassment in the military. Obama even attempts to tie in the current bill on GI benefits and can't do it. Good morning Sunshine!, err, I mean Sunrise!

The Mr. Potatoe Award Committee is inundated with nominations.
hvs writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 9:27 PM
PL...you have got to be kidding..
"Which is why the Bush Admin failed to bust-up the 9/11 plot in the first place."

Truly laughable....again...9/11 plot not busted up because "rather than waste everyones time sniffing around his crotch--and maybe accusing him of "wagging the dog."...

Pl, I think these libs made that comparison better than any conservative could: Barry Levinson,Dustin Hoffman, Robert De Niro, Anne Heche....and it goes on and on and on.

NeoConScum writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 9:16 PM
B.Hussein O'Bammy's Memorial Day
speech and Q & A in New Mexico today is a telling little 'hoot. Our service men & women are VICTIMS.

Thought you'd all want to know. Our VICTORIOUS Troops are VICTIMS. Oh, and especially the female service women who--as you all must know--are more apt to have post traumatic stress, due to sexual harrassement & abuse.

This Kid is beyond Clueless. Every day he opens mouth and inserts A**. Oh, and the funny verbal gaffs continue unabated. Today it was 'our fallen, many of whom I see here today.' If you make sense of that Memorial Day splutter, share it, will ya!

Meanwhile, President Bush went to Arlington and delivered a moving tribute to our fallen.

arngret writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 8:50 PM
cottoneyed
That is a good analigy, how western christian society is viewed by the liberal left, what they don't get is how radical jahadists view is you read and accept the quran and embrace Islam as the only faith or they will put you to death being an infadel (non-beleiver)!!!
Joe writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 7:28 PM
Thank you Ellis family
For Jessica Ellis' service.
cottoneyed writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 7:21 PM
What you have to understand "arngret" is
that the socialist party, aka, democrat party, has declared war on Western Civilization too, for the last 45 years, they have been shouting at the top of their lungs, "hey hey, ho ho, Western Civ has got to go", thats why they DO NOT consider these terrorists as enemies, they consider them to be allies in their war against their true enemy, our Christian heritage that is based on a strong patriarch, the cornerstone of the family, this drives them crazy, the notion that the Father is the head of the family, and that, horror of all horrors, the Bible teaches it, they will ally themselves to anyone or anything, if it would mean the elimination of Western Civilization.

vote obambi...give jimmah a 2nd term...FOOLS voting for a FOOL....
Conservabear writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 7:00 PM
The Warrior Caste: Pray for Them
To all of those that feel the Iraq war is wrong and that we have lost enough of our youth in this conflict: No one likes war. War is not fun and after reading Hughs Entry to lose our Children in any kind death is horrible. Fighting for Freedom is never a lost cause. Even now in Iraq there are thousands of people, who (though still afraid to admitt it) are hopeful about thier future as long as we stay there to help them. For people who have only known oppression and hardship they have made progress. Change does not happen overnite it takes patience, courage and committment. So instead of whining like babies mourn those that have given thier lives for your freedom and pray for those that are still fighting. AMEN
cottoneyed writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 6:46 PM
Well another day and another
total slap down of the resident moron, the one the only, "bljob", though, bruised and battered shes sure to come back tomorrow, and issue "challenges" to us "cons", those same "cons" never take her seriously, yet her inflated since of importance drives her back to her inevitable "slap down", shes little more than the court jester of Hugh Hewitt.com.

vote obambi...give jimmah a 2nd term...FOOLS voting for a FOOL...
arngret writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 6:42 PM
NeoConScum
I see! I need to re-emphasize that terrorists have declared war on western cultures. By Just looking at some of the threads on this blog, on how much hate some have at Bush, I admit mistakes have been made but some will never hear the full truth due to our liberal media. But to get the real theme of this blog it is about Army Cpl. Jessica Ann Ellis, who had such a deep commradery for her fellow troops and sacrificed her life selflessly, most people will never understand becuase they have not served in the military.
GOPsaver writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 6:08 PM
Patriotic Liberal
All the socialist (d) will do is find more creative ways to control the masses. Never before in the history of the USA have more lies been brought upon the American people then those by the socialist (d).

As they have aborted their voting blocks the last fourty years. The DNC now looks to the Country of Mexico to replace those voting blocks with poor and indegent people that will last for three generations.

By removing the most ambissious people from their third world Counties. They leave the most meger behind keeping the corruption in tact in the third world. There can never be change in the third world because of people in the DNC.

By keeping people poor. The socialist (d) continue to hold power and let the people eat cake.
Just look at what the Hippies (the socailist DNC) have brought upon the people here in the USA by not drilling for the vast oceans of oil we have here. No nuke power plants or oil refineries biult in thirty years. MTBE in our water systems and aquafiers.

The RNC on the other hand is to the left side of JFK. The DNC nor the RNC have any clue what Capitalism is. Both care only about the power they hold and how to continue to hold that power. With Props, 187 and the Gay issues that have been voted on by the people. The Government though the Courts have proven the people do not matter nor does the Constitution.

It is only a matter of time before the Blue Collar worker will be able to go to work and veiw TV. No dirt bike, Boats, Hotrods, Hunting, Fishing, on and on the Gustopo will dictate so called freedom.

So Patroitic Libral, keep on your high horse and surrender Texas, New Mexico, California, and Arizona. Then ask yourself if Mexico will be happy then or will they insist on the entire burrito?
NeoConScum writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 5:15 PM
arngret...You See What I Mean ?
Example 'A' below. Always, always comes through!
one hot minute writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 5:13 PM
apples to waffles

Patriotic Liberal wrote;
-------------
"Well, if we are going to cite oversea events, how about the Madrid bombing and the London subway bombing?"
-------------

Patriotic Liberal, it's almost painful to see you stumbling around comparing apples to waffles.

We were responding to B-Job's challenge that American targets were NOT attacked between 1993 WTC & 2001 WTC.
Thus, your suggestions of the Madrid bombing and the London bombing do not fall into that time frame--and they weren't American targets.
Duh !

The "overseas" events which were mentioned were American targets---the Khobar Towers, our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and the U.S.S. Cole.
And those evil attacks occurred prior to 9/11.
Patriotic Liberal writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 4:56 PM
We do history just fine..
In fact, I personally do a better job articulating and defending our heritage than the very conservatives who have no higher calling than to articulate and defend our heritage. No, the problem is that you do NOT do history very well--and our country is the poorer for it. A country is in a poor spot when its conservatives know little of history..
Patriotic Liberal writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 4:50 PM
Yeah?
Well, if we are going to cite oversea events, how about the Madrid bombing and the London subway bombing? Two of our best allies, and we could not help them thwart those terrorist attacks--despite the fact of 9/11 and the heightened sensitivity to terrorism. And, again, the anthrax attacks are unresolved, despite propagating the terror and fear that existed in the aftermath of 9/11. It goes without saying that Osama remains on the loose, some seven years later, building a legend among the stupid and illiterate Arabs.

If you have a problem with Clinton's record on terrorism in the 90s, maybe you should have spoken up, rather than waste everyones time sniffing around his crotch--and maybe accusing him of "wagging the dog." But in fact, your concern was China and missile defense and Iraq, not the terrorist threat. Which is why the Bush Admin failed to bust-up the 9/11 plot in the first place.
NeoConScum writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 4:41 PM
Thank You, arngret..For Foobie, Bro-Bay,
Athiest and Company, you'll additionally need to draw real simple pictures. They don't do History-- Contemporary or otherwise. Trust me.
NeoConScum writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 4:37 PM
foobie DEMANDS To Know EXIT Strategery !
Well, since you asked, you vapid product of gov't schooling: B. Hussein O'Bammy has that Exit Strategy to fulfill your infantile cravings. RETREAT!!! Leave Iraq and our sworn moral respnsibilities(and military successes & victories and military sense..)to the Butchers we've been bringing to room temperature by the 10s of thousands. Yep, as repeatedly promised, Bazama will mount his Battle Stallion and lead our forces in the opposite direction of the enemy. Subsequently, the forces of darkness elsewhere, not least in the Karakorams, the Eastern Frontier of Afghanistan, not to mention the Iran funded Islamist Radicals of Lebanon & Palestine--will shudder in fear of our Mighty Leader. Right. That's the lesson of History. Right.

FOCUS, foobie: What "Exit Strategery" did we have for Japan, Germany and Korea? Morbidly curious where you read military history..oh, say...from pre-Alexander 'till now.
arngret writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 4:33 PM
U.S. Thwarts 19 Terrorist Attacks
November 13, 2007
U.S. Thwarts 19 Terrorist Attacks Against America Since 9/11
by James Jay Carafano, Ph.D.
Backgrounder #2085

Criticisms of post-9/11 efforts to protect the United States from attack range from claims that America is more vulnerable than ever to the contention that the transnational terrorist danger is vastly over-hyped.[1] A review of publicly available information on at least 19 terrorist conspiracies thwarted by U.S. law enforce­ment suggests that the truth lies somewhere in between these two arguments.

Cont. Link

http://www.heritage.org/research/HomelandDefense/bg2085.cfm

SEEHAWK writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 4:25 PM
Amnesiacs
No more attacks???
1995 OKC (suspected middle east associates/Jayna Davis book "The Third Terrorist")
1996 downing of TWA 800 on Saddam Hussein's July 17th holiday (Jack Cashill' "First Strike")
1996 Kobar Towers Iranian bombing of military barracks
Aug 1998 Two US Embassy bombings/AQ
Attack of the USS Cole Oct 2001
Dozens of Americans killed by Jihadists in Israel through those years as well, paid for by Saddam Hussein.
The problem with Nasticrats is they think American foreign policy causes the Jihadists to rise up. WRONG! It's the false worship of allah,or al'il the moon god and his false word, the Koran. Period. That's why Thomas Jefferson had to fight the Jihadists on the shores of Tipoli.....and why we have to today.
GOPsaver writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 3:54 PM
Wonder if?
Wonder if all of those who shed their blood and gave their lives would have been willing to do so if they knew those we have elected to office were going to gift California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas to Mexico. Who took those States over in a war of population.

Wonder if those who fought Americas wars would be OK with the United States Government enforcing Laws on Americans and letting Illegal Aliens skate on the Laws of the United States of America.

Wonder if those who fought in Americas Wars and were told to do so in order to protect American freedom would agree the merging of Mexico and America was a good idea?
KGK writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 2:54 PM
Thank God for our military
As one reads liberal horse pucky , to coin a phrase just read by one such dolt, one must first remember our brave military over the 200 years plus that have kept our freedoms. It was not the media, not the govt. bureaucrats, not the bloggers, not posters here unless they have served, that has kept our freedoms. And God has watched over this nation whether liberals believe that or not. So for one day, forget the appeasing horse pucky or puckie or just puke, and thank God for our military and for this nation. At nearly 70, I realize that truth more each day.
one hot minute writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 2:50 PM
B-Rob, we were attacked in the '90s

B-Rob wrote;
-----------
"This is simply ridiculous. In 1993, the US was attacked by al Queda in NYC. There were no more attacks for more than eight years..."
-----------

That's wrong---we were attacked.

We were attacked at the Khobar towers, our embassies were attacked in Kenya and Tanzania, and the U.S.S. Cole was attacked.

Many Americans were killed, and countless others were injured.

By the way, why do you believe Al-Qaeda attacked the WTC in 1993 ?
fbear writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 2:38 PM
Questions for Hugh...
If the purpose of being is Iraq is so that we'll "fight them over there instead of over here", what's our exit strategy? It seems that this rationale leads toward a policy of endless occupation. Since our presence in Iraq is sapping our military's readiness for other conflicts, how do you propose we boost our military readiness? Does this mean a draft?
Atheist Provocateur writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 2:20 PM
Bull pucky.
"Since 9/11, the country has not been attacked, and that is because the American military has kept the enemy on the run and killed or captured them across the globe, but at a cost of more than 4,500 dead and thousands more wounded. "

Bull pucky.

You have not one shred of evidence of cause and effect.

So why did Osama take 11 years between the two bombings of the World Trade Center? Because the American military kept them on the run and killed them?

Nope.

You have no proof that what you say is even close to truth.

In fact the real truth could just as easily be postulated that we've made more terrorists than we've killed 11 years before Osama attacks again.

See this is the real disconnect between the left and the right.

Left: We've created more terrorists than ever before and made the world infinitely more dangerous than before Iraq.

Right: We've kept America safe by killing terrorists.


Reality: Nothing is quantifiable.

There is no evidence as to why Osama took 11 years, no evidence as to why other factions haven't attacked us here. Although one has to admit, if the enemy is close to home, why not kill the more convenient ones, eh? Why pay the expense of 9/11 when you can just set off an IUD? A dead American is a dead American too them.

How many of the 4,000 troops have died, not killing and chasing the terrorists, but as a result of terrorism?

Bull pucky Hugh.
Patriotic Liberal writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 12:35 PM
That Said
..On this Day, as our thoughts turn towards those brave Americans serving our country in foreign lands, towards those in their generation and in prior generations who 'gave their lives that our nation might live,' we remember that our right to think and speak and write as free men comes from their "last full measure of devotion."

A couple nights ago, I was watching something about an old Iwo Jima veteran, a Marine, who was returning to that battlefield after all these years. They were cross-cutting with clips from those terrible days in early 1945, and in one of those black-and-whites, there was a makeshift cemetery, and a handwritten sign that said something like: 'They sacrificed their todays for your tomorrows.' Not as eloquent as Lincoln, perhaps, but every bit as compelling.

From their time to ours, across those dark decades and even centuries, an urgent message that binds the generations, if I may try to articulate: 'We were young like you. We had aspirations like you. Unlike you, our lives were cut short. But in that moment, we saw you and were bound to you. So bind yourselves to us. Make yourself, and the country, worthy of our sacrifice.'
NeoConScum writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 12:13 PM
Thank You For The WONDERFUL Mudville
posting, Hugh. God, what Warriors we have. They will be, Thank God, our future leaders. Smart, tough, brave, tempered in combat, grasping of the nature of True Evil & Unapologetically PATRIOTIC...and not about to buy the swill of their chronic wishful thinking elders on the Boomer Democrat side of the aisle.

They fill my heart with optimism about our country's future.

God Bless ALL who have fallen in our nations fights. God Bless all who honorably serve & protect.
Patriotic Liberal writes: Monday, May, 26, 2008 11:49 AM
Anthrax attacks still unresolved..
Leave that aside, there was "no attack" on our country after the first WTC bombing early in the first Clinton term. At least, until Bush and the Republicans took office.

The collapse of media coverage is a function of its economics. These days, news divisions are expected to make a buck. They are not subsidized by the broad entertainment conglomerate, as they were three decades ago in the days of the "liberal media." Today, it is a significant cost to blanket Iraq with coverage--much cheaper to dispatch some freelance paparazzi outside Lindsey Lohan's house, or show a store videotape of some clerk getting shot by a thug.

Iraq was able to generate an "audience" when it was a new story, and there was pathos in the air, and America had high hopes for its success. At that point, it made economic sense to send reporters in. The "top line" was there. But when the top line erodes--today, Iraq is a downer, a channel-changer--and the costs of coverage remain high, media muckity-mucks start calculating..

In a sense, there is an extreme poetic justice here. The Reeps have benefited from this corporate, tabloid media for more than a generation. And now they are reduced to appealing to the very thing that they used to snicker at: corporate responsibility, social conscience, and the like. Good luck with that, guys. You created this media consumerism, now you have to live with it. If you want a new era of citizenship and civic obligation, vote for the Democrats.
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