Tuesday, September 11, 2007
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9/11 at Ground Zero
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Posted by:
Mary Katharine Ham at
7:20 PM
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My pictures are a little heavy on the Truthers because that's who I was interviewing and filming for HamNation. I thought I'd be able to get more pictures later of real, normal people observing the day in a respectful way, but my dang camera went all malfunction on me.
We got plenty of good footage, though, of both normal people and Truthers, so that will be upcoming.
This guy was fitting his super-cool Schwinn with new posters, as these had gotten soggy on a rainy 9/11.
"Move right along. Nothing to see here. No national tragedy of epic proportions perpetrated by 19 radical Islamist hijackers. Nope."
A Truther videotapes a normal person telling him he's a "disgrace" for being at Ground Zero on 9/11 (bonus hot girl in foreground because I know my audience).
A Truther co-ed proves that art degree was worth something. Take that, Dad!
It was disturbing how many people were stopping to listen to the Truthers, many passersby taking in all the conspiracy theories and nodding along. I stopped and talked with this guy and his fellow evangelists. I pointed out where their theories were contradicted by the actual facts, so that at least the people listening to them would hear the other side. These Truthers were calm. Not so with others we encountered.
A soldier who had been to Iraq spoke about his service to all comers, elaborating on the brutality of our radical enemy for those who haven't seen it first-hand.
 A mourner.
Many laid flowers, candles, lit incense for lost loved ones. The crowd of people walking the memorial fence that encloses the area was dense and constant and eerily quiet.
The face of "Truth." Also, incidentally, the face of a Ron Paul supporter I interviewed in Dallas last week. Ubiquitous, she is. Her name is Debbie, if I remember correctly. Betting she doesn't have much of a real job.
When the "Truth" requires aggressive gesticulation, Debbie delivers.
The enthusiastically eyelinered boy on the right of this picture was extra obnoxious. Most of the Truthers spoke in quiet-to-slightly-raised tones with people or silently held signs. This guy yelled into the crowds of commuters and mourners: "If you believe the official story, you're in psychological denial! You're sheep! You are sheep!"
His outbursts drew the ire of one burly guy who told him to shove it, explained with a generous helping of four-letter-words that he had lost numerous firefighter friends in the towers, and that he didn't think much of his conspiracy theories. There were several such altercations, but they were short, the normal people pretty much preferring to ignore the Truthers or shout their disapproval while walking by.
We got rid of our Real Truth flyers pretty quickly, handing out a whole box within an hour and getting lots of thumbs-up and thanks from people when they realized what we were doing.
It was moving to be at Ground Zero on this day. It's the first time I've been in NYC on 9/11. God bless each and every one who lost his life there.
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You sure do you know your audience! Glad you were bearing our baser needs in mind on such a solemn day!! Sure knocked the glooms outta me!!!
You're HAMTASTIC!!!! |
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"Here is a list of Senior Military, Intelligence (FBI, CIA), and Government
Officials Questioning 9/11:"
And none of them believe a missile hit the Pentagon or Flight 93 was faked. These guys aren't on your side.
"MIT Physics Engineer says the 'official story' on 911 is tripe-"absolutely impossible"
Do you even know your own movement? Jeff King is an ELECTRICAL ENGINEER, not a physics engineer. You're outdated. |
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When are you gonna wake up...?! We don't buy your act because.......we are all in on the conspiracy.....
Didn't you see "Invasion of the Body Snatchers?"
The truth is staring you right in the face....
We're all aliens.....!! RUN!! |
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you can take your outdated, controlled and 'approved' "scientific methods" and chew on this one too:
MIT Physics Engineer says the 'official story' on 911 is tripe-"absolutely impossible"
IMPOSSIBLE from an engineering standpoint
IMPOSSIBEL from a 'Laws of Physics' standpoint
IMPOSSIBLE from an architectual standpoint
(from the architects themselves)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8XToX7aSdg |
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i dont follow alex jones. the information has been available since day one. alex is just someone, along with many others, who are trying to expose the truth.
you pointed me to no evidence.
Here is a list of Senior Military, Intelligence (FBI, CIA), and Government
Officials Questioning 9/11:
http://www.wanttoknow.info/officialsquestion911commissionreport
when you say i'm crazy. you say these people are crazy. are YOU questioning your government, sir? |
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"p.s. thank you for letting us all know you are perfectly fine with Bush flashing the sign of the devil at the ceremony for the people who died on 9/11."
Wow...let me guess, you think the Bohemian Grove is real and Moloch is an owl? And you call me the sheep, when all you do is repeat what Shepard Alex Jones spouts?
I pointed you to the evidence. It's not my fault that you rather believe in a lie because you have a clear agenda instead of going with the scientific method. The fact you label me as a Bush Supporter exposes this. |
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you are a pathetic liar who spews out propaganda garbage designed to intimidate people and you supply no facts.
you refuse to answer the most simple questions and when you do you supply opinions based on lies, NOT FACTS.
good luck.
p.s. thank you for letting us all know you are perfectly fine with Bush flashing the sign of the devil at the ceremony for the people who died on 9/11.
you have proven once again who you really are.
if anyone has it in their hearts to wake up to the truth, it is never too late.
all you need to do is think for yourself and view the information critically with an open mind.
do not be afraid of the truth, my friends.
if you have an open heart and and honest soul you will see the truth.
good luck to you all. |
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"you're lying. there is no proof of bodies at the pentagon! you just showed how ignorant you are and how YOU haven't even read the commission report, THE STORY THAT YOU BELIEVE. the commission report doesn't even mention the bodies because the "plane" disintegrated."
Strawman argument. They were human remains and bodies found inside the pentagon. These photos can be found in the Moussaoui trial evidence and the testimony from the local authorities and professionals who examined the crash site. You're going to accuse the Arlington police department of being part of the coverup now?
"the "engine" that was found did not belong to the plane that was supposed to have hit the pentagon."
What engine did Flight 77 have? Do you even know?
"you didn't answer the question about flight 93."
You mean the same flight that had airfone calls to their loved ones, FDR was found, human tissue was found, and pieces of the fuelsage? That Flight 93?
"also, you think its another coincidence that on 9/11/01 the military was simulating planes flying into buildings and then it actually happened?"
They were simulating a plane crash at a private area. The majority of exercises were basic hijacking exercises or tailing "russian bombers". They were not executed before the first plane strike hit the WTC. They were planned, but they never started.
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you're lying. there is no proof of bodies at the pentagon! you just showed how ignorant you are and how YOU haven't even read the commission report, THE STORY THAT YOU BELIEVE. the commission report doesn't even mention the bodies because the "plane" disintegrated. if you believe there were bodies there then you believe in a conspiracy theory too!
the "engine" that was found did not belong to the plane that was supposed to have hit the pentagon.
yes, the cia has thousands working for them.
are you just dumb or in complete denial? i say both.
you didn't answer the question about flight 93.
also, you think its another coincidence that on 9/11/01 the military was simulating planes flying into buildings and then it actually happened?
do you have en evil agenda or something, sir?
the way you are talking to me and lying to everyone and myself surely sounds like it. maybe you work for the cia?
and yes, since you brought jews into this to try to make people feel bad for you or somethings i will say, "ISRAELI LEADERS ARE JUST AS GUILTY AS THE US LEADERS WHO NOT ONLY ALLOWED 9/11/01 TO HAPPEN BUT WANTED IT TO HAPPEN."
how do you like that?
dont put words in my mouth, i called no one slime. you called yourself that then concluded it was a statement about jews, which i never said. |
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"...how would you know a building is going to collapse hours ahead of time when no buildings that large have ever collapsed due to fire?"
First, it was fire couldn't melt steel. Rosie: "It would have been the first time in history that fire melted steel."
Then, when the bridge in CA collapsed ironically due to fire, the argument became "buildings that size collapsed due to fire". Tell me truther, just how many buildings of that size are there of which fires of that magnitude have combusted? Just so we have a basis for comparison...
Marky,
That was hilarious. |
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By the way, Furry Conventions gather bigger audiences then you guys. That's right, people who dress up like giant animals and have sex with each other outnumber your movement. |
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"and who said anything about jews?
getting a little defensive don't ya think? ;)"
Considering that you just said all those who "defend the official story" are nothing but slime, you're on the defensive. Why else would you pay attention to a building that wasn't a target, no one died, and was suspect of collapse by the local authorities?
"how do you all feel about more and more people waking up to the truth everyday?"
Hahahahaha...right, less then 5% of the United States believe in the MIHOP theory and there is a deafening silence from the movement for the past couple of days because their 9/11 protest march was a huge flop. You guys can't even a thousand people in a city of millions. |
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"how would you know a building is going to collapse hours ahead of time when no buildings that large have ever collapsed due to fire?"
That's because you just created a strawman argument. I guess we don't need firefighters because fires don't really weaken steel at all. By the way, look up Kader Toy Factory for an example of a steel building falling down. As for the NYFD, Chief Daniel Nigro is the one who gave the evacuation order for WTC7.
"why didn't the 9/11 commission report say anything about wtc7?"
Another strawman. The 9/11 Commission report was a collaboration of intelligence report regarding the attacks itself. Why would they pay attention to a building that wasn't a target, didn't have anyone died, and was suspected to collapse by the NYFD?
"you didn't answer the war games question."
Didn't notice it and they didn't even start on 9/11. They were planning it but the attacks came before the exercise even started, hence "real world or exercise". If the exercise did start, they would assume immediately it was part of the exercise.
"you also didn't explain to me where the hole in the pentagon is and where the plane and bodies are."
So all those people who were investigating the area and cleaning up the site are liars? Wasn't over a thousand people there?
Again, the FDR, pieces of the rolls royce engine, pieces of the fuelsage, and human remains were found. Not to mention that the damage to the light poles and the generator is most consistent with a plane hitting the pentagon then any other theories.
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keep lying to yourself.
keep thinking everything is a coincidence just for your own personal sake.
here's a picture of george bush flashing a satanic hand sign at the 9/11 ceremony on tuesday, maybe you'll think this is appropriate:
http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070911/480/af04ac4c79004c1781e72a1971d114f7
oh, but I'm sure that is just another coincidence too, right? or maybe you just don't mind it?
how would you know a building is going to collapse hours ahead of time when no buildings that large have ever collapsed due to fire?
why didn't the 9/11 commission report say anything about wtc7?
you didn't answer the war games question.
you also didn't explain to me where the hole in the pentagon is and where the plane and bodies are. none of those are in the pictures above. walls and windows do not remain in tact when a gigantic plane crashes. planes also don't disappear. please explain it to all of us scientifically how that happened - backed up with facts. i'll be waiting for a huge load of lies, powered by money and greed, to come pouring out of your mouth like an oil spill.
and who said anything about jews?
getting a little defensive don't ya think? ;)
i stand by what i said. you are a coward and a liar. it is you and people like you who refuse to think for themselves who are destroying this country.
how do you all feel about more and more people waking up to the truth everyday? |
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"ou dont care that when a plane crashes into the pentagon the wall is still standing and there is no plane wreckage."
The wall fell and the FDR, pieces of the Rolls Royce engine, pieces of the fuelsage, and human remains were found at the Pentagon. In order to give your theories legs, I would have to suspect the entire clean up and investigators down there, plus the families of Flight 77 of being part of it.
"you dont care that building 7 collapsed due to control demolition."
No it didn't. No physical evidence of bombs were found and the NYFD/First Responders who were down there all knew it was going to collapse, hours ahead. Saying the WTC7 was bought down by explosives would have to suggest the NYFD was lying. Besides, why do you care about a building that no one died in and expected to collapse? Oh I know, because Larry Silverstein is Jewish. |
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"ou dont care that when a plane crashes into the pentagon the wall is still standing and there is no plane wreckage."
The wall fell and the FDR, pieces of the Rolls Royce engine, pieces of the fuelsage, and human remains were found at the Pentagon. In order to give your theories legs, I would have to suspect the entire clean up and investigators down there, plus the families of Flight 77 of being part of it.
"you dont care that building 7 collapsed due to control demolition."
No it didn't. No physical evidence of bombs were found and the NYFD/First Responders who were down there all knew it was going to collapse, hours ahead. Saying the WTC7 was bought down by explosives would have to suggest the NYFD was lying. Besides, why do you care about a building that no one died in and expected to collapse? Oh I know, because Larry Silverstein is Jewish. |
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"official 9/11 story supporters: you are pathetic cowards and you are a disgrace to mankind and america. you make human beings look like cavemen who can not and will not think for themselves. you are a threat to your family, loved ones and the entire planet. you are the most selfish type of people on this planet. REMEMBER THAT!"
Anger issues much? Just remember you are the ones who are accusing fellow NYFD, NYPD, family members, and scientists of being part of the coverup without any evidence whatsoever. Your arguments have been conjured by mormon professors, thelogions, texan radio hosts, and holocaust deniers. Check out Willis Carto, the owner of America Free Press, and ask why your movement uses them daily.
"its also interesting how many of you deniers look extremely rich, miserable, and very hateful, not to mention really ugly."
Let's just say this was true, this is considered an ad-hom argument. Attack the messenger, not the argument.
"you dont care that bush and cheney wont go under oath for the 9/11 commission. "
Doesn't prove an inside job.
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i said, "if you believe the governments official story then you are in psychological denial. do not be afraid of the truth."
i never said, "you are sheep."
however, i did say, "you are NOT sheep, you are NOT zombies. ask questions! demand answers!" |
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Were you telling people they were in psychological denial and calling them sheep....? |
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i feel the writers comment about me wearing eyeliner is slanderous and uncalled for.
in the picture it doesn't even look as if i am wearing eye liner.
i have long eye lashes, excuse me!
the comment was made to make me appear a certain way to people and that is unacceptable.
my response to her (the writer) is simply that she is a woman and she should know better to spew out distasteful comments about people's physical appearance AND lie about it. |
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when the "plane" hit the pentagon THE WALL WAS STILL STANDING and there was no plane wreckage. view image here: http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/pentagon/images/3.jpg
explain the war games excercises taking place that day where they were actually simulating planes flying into buildings.
all of these things are just coincidences to you? |
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After reading you describe yourself as "gorgeous," I am satisfied that you have no credibility in any other area either.....
Good luck in you search for a clue.... |
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__The passenger jet created a huge hole in the pentagon. I was wondering why you say the wall is still standing. You might want to ask some of the families, who lost loved ones when that plane crashed into the pentagon, about it. I've visited the sites that claim 9/11 was an inside job, has I questioned this tragedy. I can punch more holes in their theories, than I can find facts to back up their theories. Start making your own choices, instead of choosing the from the singular passions you embrace has truths. |
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i am the "boy" above with the "eyeliner"
i do not wear eyeliner. my eyes just happen to be more gorgeous than the woman who wrote this distasteful article.
i also did not say "you are sheep" i said, "YOU ARE NOT SHEEP, YOU ARE NOT ZOMBIES! ASK QUESTIONS, DO NOT BE AFRAID OF THE TRUTH!"
but since you like to put words in our mouths, make people think we dont have jobs, and above all, sit there and lie to yourselves to make yourselves feel better - i will say this:
official 9/11 story supporters: you are pathetic cowards and you are a disgrace to mankind and america. you make human beings look like cavemen who can not and will not think for themselves. you are a threat to your family, loved ones and the entire planet. you are the most selfish type of people on this planet. REMEMBER THAT!
its also interesting how many of you deniers look extremely rich, miserable, and very hateful, not to mention really ugly.
it has been 6 years and you haven't bothered to look at the facts because you are in denial. you dont care that bush and cheney wont go under oath for the 9/11 commission. you dont care that when a plane crashes into the pentagon the wall is still standing and there is no plane wreckage. you dont care that building 7 collapsed due to control demolition. you dont care, bottom line. you refuse to ask questions and look at the facts because you are a coward who is afraid of the truth.
6 years later you have proven who you really are.
if karma is real, you are surely in store for a lot of it.
its never too late though to wake up and stop being afraid of the truth.
many are waking up everyday - THE TRUTH IS UNSTOPPABLE. |
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Why does townhall trying to associate 9/11 truthers with Ron Paul?
Why is Mary Ham clearly biased against Dr. Paul? Is she a journalist or a op/ed writer?
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...on their forearms, their foreheads. They walk, and live their truths, has sheep being led to slaughter. Denying the truths of the true Shepherd, while walking among the Words flock. These protesters actually glorified the Word, has they walked among those assembled to honor those murdered by the hand of evil. With pride, and dignity, inspired by Love of the Word, the congregation ignored the taunts, and temptations, of the accusers. This loving congregation did not gather to embrace evil, they gathered to mourn the loss of life that had impact on their lives. The, so called truthers gathered, to fortify their legions of denyers. Truth of the Word denied them converts, and denied them the physical confrontation they hoped to invoke. The Words message was glorified at this assembly, has they followed the Shepherds direction. |
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Douglass Bartley writes: 9/11, 2007 11:43 PM
"Mary K, you are helping turn 9/11 into the funeral that never ends."
I agree. And I thank you. The funeral SHOULD NEVER END! May the memories of all the innocents lost in the towers be forever blessed.
Thanks, Mary Katherine Ham. You make me proud. |
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Mr. Bartley writes:
"Besides that these constant ceremonies, vigils, and the like concerning 9/11 are morbid, and in some cases, I suspect, charades that seem to be never-ending."
How about a real charade that is never ending - the Ron Paul campaign. It's a revolution alright; take your 1.5% and revolve your way back into insignificance
If you wish to not remember and/or mourn our losses on 9/11 Mr Bartley, fine. But let others do so as they wish. |
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And if the Government was really capable of pulling off a stunt like 9/11 - how much easier would it be to round up a few Truthers and make them "disappear."
I mean - all they would have to do is tell the aliens to swing by, load them into their UFO's, and ship them off to our secret Illuminati torture prison on the dark side of the moon.
I live close to a Masonic Temple. Maybe I could swing by on my way home from work and get them to do it. |
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And if the Government was really capable of pulling off a stunt like 9/11 - how much easier would it be to round up a few Truthers and make them "disappear."
I mean - all they would have to do is tell the aliens to swing by, load them into their UFO's, and ship them off to our secret Illuminati torture prison on the dark side of the moon.
I live close to a Masonic Temple. Maybe I could swing by on my way home from work and get them to do it. |
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She can eschew other women who think that MKH is hitting on them. She may have difficulty doing the same to a guy who thinks that she is hitting on him! THIS is why she is doing us guys the favor of posting those pics!
Have a wonderful day! |
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Mrs. Eleanor Stevens wrote on Tuesday, September, 11, 2007 8:46 PM
"Legacy
Sadly, this will be Bush's legacy. A divided country and a stronger enemy. "
President Bush's legacy will be to stand strong in defense of our country despite the hatred and rhetoric of morons whose lives are so devoid of meaning that they think they must establish their entire being on revealing nuances of chaos as clues to conspiracy.
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MK,
On 9/11 I prefer purely honorable rememberances (alone time reliving the horror of the day & getting angry), but other times I wonder if you could help out your audience a bit more.
You know your audience well enough to find a hot chick for them...can you also pick out a hot guy as well? Your female audience is finding the current male selection in your photos severely lacking. I mean. SEVERELY. LACKING.
Thanks for exposing the Troofers every day as the wingnuts they are! |
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"You are helping turn 9/11 into the funeral that never ends."
Whether MK shows up or not, the Truther morons are going to be out there exploiting 9/11 for their own ends. Whether you like it or not, this is an anniversary that will live in infamy. Sound familiar? We also remember Pearl Harbor every year, only there are little to no conspiracy mongers who wish to exploit the pain of others. She had every right to be out there countering these nutjobs who have nothing better to do. Careful where you direct that blame. Her job is to inform, and she does it well. |
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"..is that why you removed the sitemeter from your site, because you were not getting many "hits[?]""
What's the matter, Jimmy? Jealous, because Douglass has the number one blog on Townhall? |
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One of these years, I will be able to make it out to NYC, Shanksville, and Arlington. |
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M-Kat,
The 'truthers' must have bused in all the Crosby, Stills, & Nash look alikes from Bezerkely, California.
I swear, an entrepreneur could open up a barber shop on Telegraph St. in Berkeley and become a millionaire overnight!
And I'm thinking that the goth looking chick with the tatts on her arms holding up the sign about building # 7 is Kimberlyric, and her Nine Inch Nails looking companion who is wearing the black eyeliner is probably Soothsayer.
I remember several weeks ago, Soothie was giving a critique of your eyeshadow from one of your appearances on O'Reilly---now we know 'why' Soothie felt qualified to offer such expertise !
By the way...didn't any of these people see Bin Laden's new videotape where he asserted CREDIT for 9/11---or was he a part of the conspiracy, too ?
I admit I'm a part of the vast right wing conspiracy out here in Hollywood---but I swear I've never seen Bin Laden's contact info on any of our mailing lists.
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Our brave soldiers in the Middle East are humbled by your bravery and sacrifice. We, as a nation, thank you. |
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..is that why you removed the sitemeter from your site, because you were not getting many "hits[?]" |
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Less idiots, more hot babes, please |
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I just want to point out that I think you're teriffic, and that I'd like to smack the Troofer morons in the head. |
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Giving Zombie a run for his money...er, rather, Mad Skilz. |
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Thanx for putting yourself out there and confronting the lies. I have been following you for about a year now and I am more impressed with you at every view. Keep up the work!!!!
You will be going places!
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This precisely why I just keep to myself on this anniversary. If I came across "eyelinered boy" yelling at passers-by it would have taken a great measure of God's grace for me to not beat him with his own sign.
Thank your for continued good work, MKH. There's not much more you can do than throw the facts back at them. |
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"couldn't possibly have a REAL job", might be like many of my Harley Friends, that are CPA's and attorneys that love to be bikers on weekends?.....Did I hear a tone of "Elitism" in your statement?....Ha-Ha......All UFO believers don't live in trailer parks either."
No..but they are all idiots....Like the many I've seen around Stugis during the Rally...Pretend bikers indeed...Trailer yer bikes in and put on the leathers you wear twice a year...and ride around playing Peter Pan for a few days...It's always interesting you see these fools out protesting in the middle of the week on a work day...Hmmm..things that make you say 'Hippie'... |
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Do these truthers really believe this garbage that they spew? If our government was behind this do you honestly think that they could keep it a secret? Our government is too large and leaky to deep this a secret for long, especially not 6 years. All these conspiracy theorists are the people that would have been locked up in the insane asylums if we still had them, they are mentally unstable. |
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Thank you for all your hard work. The families of my friends who died on 9/11 appreciate what you did today. Those who lie and say 9/11 was an “inside job” are truly despicable and do not know what additional hurt they are causing the victims families. They have not looked at the facts and are blinded by their hatred of Bush. It is truly sad that people can be that ignorant. |
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Sadly, this will be Bush's legacy. A divided country and a stronger enemy. |
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couldn't possibly have a REAL job", might be like many of my Harley Friends, that are CPA's and attorneys that love to be bikers on weekends?.....Did I hear a tone of "Elitism" in your statement?....Ha-Ha......All UFO believers don't live in trailer parks either. |
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If you really want to dig into something take that one on Talisman. Why did your Buddy FDR do nothing when he knew what was coming.(ask the old sailors about the practices in the pacific by the Japnese months before the attack). Why did many congressman and senators sons ship out of Pearl on Dec 6th.
But leave this issue alone, at least today. Let the people mourn today. Tomororw you can go back to your Bush lied nonsense. |
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...sounds an awful lot like Kimber, does she not....?
(Psssst, we all know it was the Mercurians.....)
The pictures are pretty much what I expected to see.....but only one hot chick.....?! This is so unlike you, MK.... |
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The truth behind the 9/11 attacks should be investigated because we have not heard reasonable answers to date. There is alot more out there that the Bush Administration has effectively shut down on, and the American people have a right to know what that is. One has to wonder why they refused to cooperate with the 9/11 commission for so long, and wouldn't even consider composing such a necessary investigation in the first place!
What are they hiding? You can bet it's pretty bad, and had much to do with Cheney in the bunker calling off the fighter jets who have taken down the hijacked planes - we know Bush was too busy staring into space and reading a children's book to scheme up a PNAC perfect scenario - the likes of Pearl Harbor - to play war games with. |
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