Friday, February 08, 2008
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Ann Coulter Speaks At CPAC
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Posted by:
Jonathan Garthwaite at
10:25 PM
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Ann Coulter wasn't invited to CPAC this year but she came to CPAC anyway and gave a speech just down the hallway from the ballroom where John McCain spoke Thursday. The speech was only open to 1000 attendees but you can watch it here on Townhall.com. I guess we'll name this speech, "Ann Coulter's 2008 not-at-CPAC-CPAC speech."
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The go along to get along people who fail to stand for something, show that their spineless attitudes, that's why.
They are so into being nice that they fall for anything. That's why they harp at us to get an "electable" candidate. Electability is more important the honorability. Expediency is more important than integrity. |
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Maybe because she's gotten so shrill that it's hard to hear her message anymore, and she's not as funny as she thinks she is. She's becoming a parody of herself.
Hillary delenda est. |
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A BLUE square...it's a plot I'm sure, I've been getting her eloquence throughout! |
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female impersonators like Ann Coulter at its event. It is like Pricillia Queen of the Annoying Pundits. |
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Looking at the CPAC photos posted and watching all the videos, I'm not sure whether I'm seeing a conservative conference or a Klan rally. |
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At this point, it is official. Ann Coulter has jumped the shark. |
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JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! |
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One gets the sense that this is the last gasping breaths of the GOP. They only grow more hateful, disorganized, and delusional. |
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...your foreign policy smells of globalism, not nationalism. you are distorting dr. paul's views on foreign policy. he really is the only conservative and the only candidate with the United States' interests at heart. |
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I can't understand what Ann sees in Mitt Romney. Honestly, I can't. |
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Real liberals wouldn't like being censored all of the time by the PC police. |
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But her shelf-life has worn thin now that it's 2008.
Nothing original, nothing relevent, nothing intelligent, an embarassment to thoughtful conservatism. Send in the clowns. |
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For her recent bout of hysteria, immaturity and stupidity, the place where Ann Coulter belongs is in a nursery.
What I just wrote may sound harsh, but it isn't. I don't care in the next four years to lose the Iraq war, watch appeasement-minded Democrats try to "relate" to the radical Islamic extremists or see left wing judges appointed to the federal judiciary; but that is what will happen if the Democrats win the White House in November. For what is really important right now, John McCain is actually the best candidate for the Republicans and for the country. The polls show him as the only Republican beating Obama and Hillary, and John McCain knows his stuff with respect to military matters and foreign policy.
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Jorge Bush stabbed the once fiscally conservative GOP in the back for the past 7 years, it appears we've got Juan McCain ready to head up the Republicans and the so-called conservatives slam the door in Anne Coulter's face. So much for lining up behind labels! Bring on Ron Paul, he speaks common sense, constitutional truth and I doubt there's a more fiscally conservative congresscritter in the House of Representatives. |
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I no onger litsen to Ann after dhe said she would bote for Hillary a socilist reicarnation of Marx. Ann is all talk, what has she ever done but sit on her a*s and write witty one-liners?
Conservatives are intelligent people (for the most part). We do not need this shock jock joke of a conservative representing us. Mccain has actually done something for his counrty. He served in uniform and servend in office. |
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The Stupid Party
The RNC wants an amnesty candidate.
Don't vote for one.
Another amnesty will result in Democrat majorities for decades, or until they are supplanted by the La Raza Party, why doesn't the RNC know that? How stupid do you have to be to import voters for the opposition at the same time you alienate your own voters? Nominating any of the amnesty supporters is a losing proposition, we will not support them. If the GOP intends to surrender our sovereignty and abandon the rule of law, they will find in November 2008, that they still have their big money/cheap labor donors, but they do not have voters. GOP-RIP |
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If republicans had brains they would disown Ann. With Ann who needs enemies. She is suddenly ready to campaign for a socialist reicarnation of Marx now because Mccain doesn't fit her notion of a conervative?
I take Mccain, a man who has served his country both in uniform and in office and who has been a conservative and fought for conservativism before Ann ever wrote one witty one-liner. Ann is all talk. Mccain is action. Mccain will win the war balance the budget, and lead the country agaist those who wish to see our demise. Hillary can have Ann, I don't want her. |
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I wouldn't watch Ann Coulter now if you paid me.
My husband wrote a great poem about her.
I don't care what she has to say, she is an embarassment to the party and a traitor. Her love is of money, and ego. Her books are repetitious "Liberals are bad" except now her new one will be "I was only kidding, they aren't that bad", or "Can't you guys take a joke?"
I wish the media would give her NO air time. Take your money and ego, Ann, and go away!
This poem is for you Ann, no go away and close
your mouth!
A Writer Named Ann
There once was a writer named Ann,
Who made millions off this great land.
She wrote about libs, exposing their fibs,
We believed her and gave her a hand.
She now says she supports Hillary C.
Who is an avowed Socialisti.
I think, Ann, you should quickly go
And read the Commie Manifesto.
There you will find the Hillary kind
Of ideals she will impose and I mean presto!
You say you are a Christian which means Christ-like,
But your ego and greed just don't fit right.
Just face it. We've been had,
But don't feel too bad.
Start having some fun by giving her the shun.
Start burning her books and list her among crooks,
Who made you believe but all the while
Had her eyes on your wallets and checkbooks.
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She's walking, talking proof why feminism is a failure |
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Ann Coulter, walking, talking proof why feminism has failed.
Oh, I'm sorry, was that BIGOTED????
Dumb. Blonde. |
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Sabina, Dark Matter, Denim.
You aren't getting it, are you? |
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In spite of Ann's rather "edgy" attempts at humor and the distance that seems to create for some of our more sensitive republicans, she still says more by accident than most people have a stomach to hear. After all, we're looking for anyone who will tell us want we want to hear as long as it doesn't require an honest look at the truth. The fact is John McCain desperately wants to be the next president of the United States and Hillary and company can't wait for him to give the old college try. He will lose, this country will lose and since Hillary is already a loser, that makes us losers all around.
There's always 2012 but how far down the river will the "party of change" take us. My guess is over a rather steep waterfall! |
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For OLD whig--I'm not getting it?
I'm getting it just fine.
You like socialism, huh? or are you dazzled with Ann's smile? In either case you are not getting it. You want socialism, you may want to see live in another country as see how you like it.
We all GET that McCain, isn't a true conservative, not too obvious, but to suggest that one should stay home, write someone in, or heaven forbid, the worst case senario, actually vote for Hillary, all lead to the same thing. They all give Hillary the vote. Think real hard how that works, maybe then YOU'LL GET IT.
Geesh! |
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Today, I laughed my --s off during your speech! Lighten up, people! Do your research on Ann; She is one of the smartest women in politics. She's got a sense of humor that obviously goesover all your heads....What happened to being able to make fun of people? We are all way into our party affiliation; What happened to all the issues? Ann's point of standing firm on conservative issues ABOVE party loyalty makes sense; I don't care what party McCain is with-He's as liberal as Hillary; Hell, they were drinking buddies, and even he said that Hillary would make a good pres. I don't think it matters anymore who to put into office, as all 3 running are very similar by record. That being said, if 4 yrs of McCain will ruin our chances of having a conservative repub in the WH in 2012, then let's vote according to that strategy.
We are surrounded by libs everywhere; Can u go to another blog and leave us in peace? THX. |
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If Ann were a R. candidate, she would have come in dead last. Her audience is a sliver of right, right wingers. |
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Thanks Ann for everything you do and say, I agree with you and Rush completely. Hang in there, believe me this "seasoned citizen" needs,and respects you.
God bless you"
Margy |
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The press wants a McCain/Huckabee ticket. Notice Huckabee on Meet the Press and Face the Nation. This will be the worst G.O.P. ticket in history. It's sad to see republicans letting the MSM pick their ticket. |
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I love watching Ann Coulter. She is so great. I would love to vote for her for president.
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I don't think the Repubs have come to terms with the reality that many of us are not part of the Republican party. We are conservatives. McCain is not. Therefore we won't vote for him.
I admire Ms. Coulter's stance. I understand it. We are loyal to conservatism, not Republicanism. Conservatives didn't choose to let a liberal run the country, the Dems and Repubs made that choice.
Now with three socialists being the only major candidates remaining, conservatives either don't vote or we choose the lib we think best serves our purposes of getting the country on the right path as quickly as possible.
Personally, I'm rooting for Obama. I can't think of anything we agree on, but he promises to be the most incompetent which should wake up the ignorant masses. |
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Men who hates Ann Coulter is because she is smart and men don't like smart women. Women haters is just jealous because she is beautiful. |
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The same people that think trying to elect a liberal with an R after his name is the way to preserve this nation are the same ones who bad-mouth Ann Coulter. They think they are saving something. 20 million new democrat voters say gracias amigos. Conservatives have never won an election by 20 million votes and will never win another one. Welcome to the welfare state.
Terrorists welcome no more stressful interogations. Allah is great.
The United Nations can't wait for our payments for our carbon emissions. Billions of dollars you need to pay up. Got to stop that global warming.
Supreme Court Justices - need to check with comrade Teddy before we get a nomination.
Rest in Peace, Repubican Party. |
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I agree with your description of the contenters left. All liberals and sadly McCain will most likely have a melt down before the election. He'll undoubtly call me a Racist again for being against amnesty. He'll tell me to calm down along with the Talk Radio Host. His friend Lindsey will remind me to be quiet and not be such a "loud person." It really goes on how McCain and his liberal friends think they know what I should want for my country. You see Ann, I along with other Conservatives understand that McCain needs me more than I need him. Calling me names and talking down to me is really conviencing me he's part of the Conservative Movement. (sarc) Others here on this Blog who tell us we need to change and vote for McCain because he was a POW. Well, my husband also fought in Vietnam as did John Kerry,( I don't tell people this every day as both John's have to do while running). I guess its too late to convience my husband to run for office. But I'm not rich and he married me for love. (did the other two?) I guess that rules him out. I get your humor and sadly its needed now. We have some time before we vote. Let's hope God has an answer for us by then. Judy |
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wow Allen, you sound very jealous.....smart funny women scare the h*ll out of you.....Ann is the best and a true conservative....as someone mentioned earlier, the ones against Ann, are NOT conservatives.....God Bless Ann Coulter and the "Conservative" Party..... |
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RINO MCain may be the Front Runner , but the final result is still in the Conservatives hands, since the majority of the true conservatives haven't voted yet.
Like Ann..If McCain selects Romney as his running mate, or someone equally as moral & conservative as Mitt Romney really is, then I will vote for McCain.. and I don't mean Hucksterbee..
Ann did well, speaking with the Young Republicans rather than CPAC.. were at one point, the audience was chanting .."four more years..four more years"...when Jorge Bush addressed them, for the last time..lol |
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I love how Ann's appearances rile some people up. Either you get the humor or you don't. I don't agree with everything she says but it doesn't keep me from enjoying it. |
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This is what happen when you let someone out of a Test Tube need I say anymore. Not funny. |
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Ann has described herself as a satirist. Get it? Do you understand what literary form that is?
Satire:
1. the use of irony, sarcasm, ridicule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly, etc.
2. a literary composition, in verse or prose, in which human folly and vice are held up to scorn, derision, or ridicule.
3. a literary genre comprising such compositions.
Like it or not, satire is a real form of acceptable literature. If you are smart enough to recognize it and understand it, it can be quite illumiating.
Get over your ignorance people.
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You are a liar.
Reagan himself wouldn't claim you. |
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Most of the speech wasn't funny simply because it was true.
Who will stop the invasion now? |
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Coulter and the radio ideologues aren't conservatives, they are exactly what liberals say they are ... the radical right! What do you call people willing to sink the republican party because our nominee isn't 'pure' enough? You sure as heck don't call them conservatives.
McCain is so odious to the radical right they are going let Hillary select the next two supreme court judges ... setting back the conservative cause for the next twenty years.
Conservative republicans need to shout down these lunatics before they ruin everything we fought for since Reagan. "Never speak ill of another republican." |
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I agree with just about everything Ann says, but...
MC CAIN IS THE ONLY CHANCE AT A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT, and whether you think he is not conservative enough or not, HE IS STILL A BETTER CHOICE THAN BARACK OR HILLIARY. You can complain all you want about his stance on illegal aliens (which as a resident of California really is something I really have a hard time with), you can complain about his silly stance on Global warming and not allowing waterboarding, you can whine and complain that he is not conservative enough (he isn't), but if you don't vote for him in November you are going to get a REAL Liberal for president, because there is no way he is going to win without a strong Republican turnout.
If you don't vote for McCain, you are effectively voting for a Democrat PERIOD.
Let's stop all this party infighting before we get a real Democrat in office. Republicans are the minority and the only way we can win, is by attracting independents. If they need to hear about amnesty, global warming, and waterboarding in order to get their necessary vote, then let Johnny tell them what they want to hear. Once he is President just watch him change his mind after it is too late. He has been setting himself up as an electable candidate since 2000, and thank God for it, because without him we would be stuck with an unelectable candidate.
I consider myself to be a fairly right wing conservative, and therefore McCain is not my idea of a perfect candidate, but I am also a realist, and know that I am part of an unfortunately small minority, so I will vote for the one man who has a chance. Stop whining, complaining, and cutting off your nose to spite your face. McCain is the only chance we have, if you don't vote for him, you are voting for "them", end of story. |
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"norcalcon" (above) capitalizes:
"MC CAIN IS THE ONLY CHANCE AT A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT"
Depends (to paraphrase Waco Willie) what the definition of "Republican" is.
If by "Republican" you mean "Rockefeller Republican" (i.e., the treasonous dogs who fought like rabid weasels against the Goldwater nomination in '64 and who have betrayed today's Republican Party via McCain-Feingold to prevent the possibility of another Goldwater or Reagan arising to challenge them)...
Then, yeah, it *might* be possible to describe McCain as a "Republican."
Sorta. Kinda. Maybe.
But in almost every substantive regard, is McCain *REALLY* a Republican?
Remember, just registering as one (and convincing the people of Arizona you're somehow not a carpetbagger simply by virtue of your involuntary five-year residence in Hanoi) doesn't do the job.
Does his voting record in the Senate (particularly his last eight or ten years' record) give evidence to support McCain's claim to conservatism?
I mean, even compared with Pennsylvania's Arlen "Not Proven" Specter?
And if refusing to vote for McCain - who has repeatedly proven himself to be a Democrat in everything *BUT* name - is "effectively voting for a Democrat PERIOD" - then we might as well call 2008 what it really is.
"The Election Year Without a Republican."
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"Id love to be remembered as a Goldwater Republican. But I dont pretend in any way to live up to the legacy of the man who literally changed the face of politics in America."
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The Talmud defines Wisdom as the ability to predict the effect of your actions.
After having listened to Ann...with mixed emotions that will be explained infra...and having read the above comments, the purpose of this set of summary notes is to compile the most useful comments and address them realistically.
FIRST, I liked Mitt immensely; if nothing else, he was "presidential" throughout, even after McVain repeatedly and maliciously misrepresented him. That said, I spoke with a friend who is running for Congress, who said that internal polling (in a 50/50 R/D District) led to the conclusion--as of now--that she would win with McVain as the Prez-candidate...but lose if Mitt were in this role.
Although polling is fickle AND can change (otherwise, why not dispense with the campaign?), the take-home message is akin to "watch-out for what you want, for you may get it!"
THEREFORE, we must deal with McVain as the putative candidate, like it or not.
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[--continued--]
Thus far, the inevitability of the McVain nod is accepted and, thus, Ann challenges whether we must accept him vs. the Ds. I will conclude "YES" after having addressed EVERY argument (that isn't tangential) in both her speech and the subsequent commnets. If I miss anything vital, please so-inform.
SECOND, I consider Ann to be an anti-Semite, due to her comment last year on the Donny Deutch CNBC show. I explored this issue intensely and, ultimately, stopped receiving her weekly column. Nevertheless, she is cogent and, thus, listening to her with an open mind is as necessary as it was (last year) when Ahmadinejad spoke @ Columbia [coming out of the closet as a homophobe] and (decades ago) when Lenny Bruce "invented" the role of American shock-jock [despite having paid-for-it, some feel, with his life].
She is anti-Semitic because she took Pauline philosophy too far, stripped of satire, consciously, repeatedly. She said that Judaism is only to be "completed" by Christianity. It's one thing to harbor a bit of chauvinism about one's own faith (for that's why it was personally chosen), but it's quite another to ignore ecumenicalism while claiming superiority.
THIRD, although she is an anti-Semite, I concur with most of her judgments and--frankly--find her delivery to be hilarious. I was reading her seminal text "Godless" on an airplane, and found myself disturbing my seatmate repeatedly by giggles (and occasional applause).
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Thus far, a paradox has been defined, with Ann both being a religious bigot and espousing views that are virtually (factually) unassailable. Thus, the key-question is how might this awareness be applied to the non-CPAC CPAC-speech.
FOURTH, she is correct on-paper. McVain has a low CU-rating deservedly, and on major issues is highly-problematic. [One wonders whether he has ever been able to entice a D to "cross the aisle" other than Independent-Joe...only on the War...who was predisposed to do so, anyway.]
But we have handled this with Bush...while enjoying his strong efforts against the Islamo-Fascists and for a quality SCOTUS. If we must continue to muster the strength (via Talk Radio, for instance) to continue to do this, then so be it!
Therefore, not withstanding the angst of having to "hold one's nose" regarding McVain's sad conduct (which sometimes appears, medically, to be "frontal lobe-ish" when observing his mannerisms...befitting his age, perhaps), he remains preferable to the Ds on every pivotal front. Even Ann was forced to admit that the above two criteria (Foreign Policy and SCOTUS) were "arguable" because she knows--of course--that they are actually controlling.
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Thus, far, after having surveyed the landscape (and having expressed satisfaction that this anti-Semite has worthwhile views that require attention), it is now necessary to address the comments she triggered.
FIFTH, I got sidetracked on the Torture issue but, as is often the case, the citation to the Internet led to a different conclusion than that which the anti-Waterboarding author had intended. Even the Wikipedia piece (which was clearly anti-"torture" and which is thus recognized as being controversial) had to recognize that there are variations on this theme and, specifically, that the WW-II convictions of the Japs encompassed conduct that included additional modes of sadistic conduct.
Thus, when it is clear that key-data that saves lives can be evinced from Coercive Interrogation, it must be used. There is no question that even those ex-CIA agents who subsequently conclude it may be a form of "torture" have admitted that key-revelations (which, surely, still need to be vetted) have emerged following the use of this technique (although, as Mitt sagely notes, we don't truly know the details of what was done).
At the risk of revelaing my identity and shirking anonymity, the reader is referred to an extended-essay on this topic:
http://www.doctor-bob.biz/AA-Political%20Essays/Coercive%20 Interrogation.htm
Thus, McVain is dangerously wrong on this issue, but (1)--The D's are worse, and (2)--Were he the incumbent, those around him could (hopefully) convince him that a (secret) variation on this theme might be used in-extremis.
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Ann Coulter is absolutely right. If RINO McCain is elected President he will complete the destruction of the Republican Party that was begun by George Bush, and the Party of Lincoln will ultimately go the way of the Federalists and the Whigs. There's hope for the Party if McCain loses. Otherwise, it will be time for true Conservatives to jump the sinking ship and form a new party in line with our world view. |
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After having divulged bias (I liked Mitt and consider Ann to be an anti-Semite), it is now necessary to continue to distill the more cogent points made overnight and to place them into context.
SIXTH, I have decided to monitor Michael Medved as one might check-in on MSNBC...to weigh what "the other side" is saying, just to make sure that Laura, Rush, Glenn, Sean, Michael (Savage), Rick (The Great One), Hugh, Mike (Gallagher) and others (including, lately, Dennis) remain correct.
The superficialities that he promotes are so simple-minded (and, I concluded, are tethered to his view that the GOP will die until/unless it hugs the Illegals, as he told me this past September in Philly) that he cannot rationalize-away his inanities any more cogently than can McVain sleep guilt-free...knowing that both have "slimed" Mitt relentlessly (along with the MSM, of course).
When Mitt engaged in ideas-dialogue, his frightened opponents went ad-hominem. When Mitt retained his poise, those who "hated" him chose to eviscerate him. This is the saddest part of the campaign-past, for they probably could have achieved the same result without having so antagonized the C-PAC crowd with such (mis)conduct.
Therefore, it is inescapable that the reason McVain was booed and Mitt was cheered is the same reason why McVain will need to choose him for his Veep. He embodies all three legs of the Conservative world, and he superimposes both competence and eloquence.
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Thus far, while surveying Ann's speech and the response she engendered, revealed has been both a pro-Mitt bias AND a plea that he be designed as the Veep-nominee. This posture is not likely to change, for Mitt has been tested-by-fire; unlike McVain, he is unlikely to utter a malapropism, for his views are deeply-considered and clearly-articulated.
SEVENTH, she is unique, and must be heard. I told my (16 1/2 year-old) son of his Edwards quote of a year ago; he recoiled, but I noted the efficiency of her 3-part parody (in one sentence) and the overriding importance of conveying essential truths. She nailed Edwards before Rush dubbed him "The Breck Girl" (and others chimed-in, thereafter, when the video of his hair-combing of his $200 coiffure emerged). She satirized the compulsion to call for "rehab" and bashed-gays, merely by alluding to what she said she really was not intending to discuss!
As obnoxious as she may be, where is America's good-natured-ness? She still should rescind her "incompleteness" characterization of Judaism (for, if nothing else, she could be persuaded that some of its tenets may actually mirror her belief-system better than those articulated from the Holy See). But, perhaps, she'll achieve a personal enlightenment that could then trigger an entirely-fresh perspective...devoid of the trappings of prejudice.
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You are foolishlessly blind to the fact that you are in effect in favor of a Democrat Congress and a Democrat President to lead the nation in the next four years. The Democrats will be able to stock the U.S. Supreme Court and U.S. Courts of Appeals with fresh left wing judicial appointments, to withdraw from Iraq in a way to achieve defeat and to pursue appeasement policies that put us at risk with the radical Islamic extremists. The Democrats are getting record number of voters in the primaries this electoral season; the only Republican who the polls show can beat Hillary or Obama is John McCain; and yet, he is someone whose defeat you ardently desire.
The Democrats, whether led by Hillary of Obama, are anti-military socialists who will increase government spending, accept defeat in Iraq, pursue appeasement policies in foreign affairs, seek outright amnesty in immigration, promote pro-abortion policies and nominate left wing judges to the federal bench.
John McCain is a pro-life fiscal conservative who served his country as a Navy combat aviator and P.O.W., who will cut Government spending, who has been right all along on Iraq and will insist on victory in Iraq, who has been and will be a hawk in foreign policy, who will cut the corporate tax rate to spur business, who accepts the judgment of the majority of American people that law enforcement in immigration must come first and who pledged to the Federalist Society in January 2007 and thereafter that he will nominate strict constructionists to the U.S. Supreme Court. And that is someone whom you cannot support? |
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We who are critical of Coulter do get Coulter. She has degenerated into a nut case; she has jumped the shark. See my Friday 5:36 PM post and Denim's Friday 6:26 PM post.
To say that John McCain is a disgrace to the Republican Party, as you do, is idiocy. He worked as hard as anyone for the election of GW Bush in 2004 and the election of Republican congressional candidates in 2006. He is a genuine war hero. He is a pro-life fiscal conservative. For over 26 years he has served in Congress specializing in military matters and foreign policy. On the Iraq War, John McCain showed character and did not follow what was convenient when he stood up with respect to the Iraq War, first in criticizing the prior light footprint strategy and then in vocally supporting the surge and General Petraeus when Democrats were declaring defeat and most Republicans were either looking for a way out (e.g., Senator Lugar) or looking at their feet. McCain was right; he visited the troops often; and he stood by them and their mission throughout. |
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Most of the comments supra are not specifically subject to comment here, either because they are not meritorious because they are mere manifestations of prior postures (articulated REGARDLESS of whatever might subsequently transpire) or they are deducible from what has been covered in the process of analyzing Ann's speech. Key-residual points, however, merit a reply.
EIGHTH, it's necessary to place Ann's anti-Semitism into context. For example, she wasn't manifesting it when referring to Hitler's "coherent tax-policy," for this was an insight akin to noting that dictators have the capacity to ensure the trains run on-time. This is why I can stomach her enlightening truisms without recoiling at her religious characterizations.
What was lost in the Deutch-Debate was the need for her to discuss her personal religious philosophies and, thus, to articulate just what makes it mandatory that "accepting Jesus" be viewed as pivotal for other ethical-peoples. Indeed, if she cannot articulate any conduct condoned by Judaism (or any other religion, for that matter) that is amoral, she should accept the need to "revise" her posture.
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Having covered (up to 8 p.m.) the key-points made by the people who watched Ann, it is now necessary to study each final Prez-candidate to explore the insights that their candidacies provoke.
NINTH, the support for Mitt persists, even when engaged in a retrospective. The Huckster remains ignorant on Foreign Policy...and is beginning to become intoxicated by making the mistake of reading his own notices...for the MSM has only embraced him to destroy Mitt (who could REALLY change assumptions in DC, for he isn't dependent upon lobbyist-insider $$$). When he relents on his strident views (as Ann noted), he is pandering to those whom he would like to prompt to support him for Veep. The Evangelicals are thrilled that--after years of being taken-for-granted (as Blacks have been, by the Ds), they can hope that implanting "one of themselves" will yield more tangible outcomes. But they chose a populist/demagogue instead of Brownback, to their lasting shame.
Ron Paul is so wrong on Foreign Policy (as the Huckster threatens to be, in a diffuse way) that his election would be a disaster for the future of the world, not withstanding his siren-call to the Constitutionalists.
I contributed to Mitt a year ago, and I would hope that McVain will heal his rift with the C-PAC crowd (with which I can easily relate) by announcing he would be seeking his acceptance of the Veep-slot...behaviorally linking with those who have gained respect for Mitt during the past year.
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These views are intended to provoke response, and I will be checking-back @ 11 a.m. to handle the rejoinders. Now, it is vital to explain my motive, for it is not merely to pontificate....
TENTH, IT IS DANGEROUS to gamble on the hope that America would sour on the Ds for two reasons. First, much of the damage done would be virtually irreparable and, second, hoping for an electoral response would be as tenuous (and erroneous) as was the argument by Gore (in 2000) that by pushing the rhetoric that Bush was "illegitimate" would help them in 2002 and 2004. 9-11 came along, and this volatile world could yield any number of surprises that could prompt the electorate to ensconce the D's for 8 years.
McVain must recruit the foot-soldiers to win in November, and choosing Mitt is perceivable as the only way to do so. Noting the recent blogging on this issue, he captures all major arguments (e.g., for Sanford) raised on behalf of others (age, executive experience, non-governmental experience, conservative positions). It would becalm those, also, who fear he would reward the Illegals (such as myself).
A few references are apt, to avoid redundancy. Lizzie [@ 3:26 AM] correctly defined "satire" and cogently applied this appellation to Ann's speech. For example, her having noted that Barack may be the least-dangerous person with the name "Hussein" again conveyed multi-level insights, memorably.
Fabius Cunctator [@ 3:57 AM] again, said it all, when he wrote why "The Truth Hurts."
Phil Byler makes one key-point with which Mitt should concur...and could easily repair. McVain has visited the troops. Mitt has some free-time, now, and should shore-up that credential...
...in preparation for being chosen for VEEP (from which he could then launch a Prez-drive).
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If "wisdom is the ability to predict the effects of your actions" Talmudically, then McVain should PROVE he wants reproachament with the C-PAC community...and choose MITT for his running-mate!
There is nothing in any of the responses to Ann's speech that contravenes this action!
Successful, modern-day precedents (1960 & 1980) demonstrate how unity and motivation supervene when this is done; for example, I'd be far more apt (as a GOP Committeeman) to self-finance a letter to all my constituents (as I did in 2004 on three distinct occasions) to promote this ticket.
McVain didn't do much during the past few days (publicly) to heal his (justifiable) rift with those who (not so silently) lament his achievement. If he wants to motivate (and to eliminate any futher discussion of the Huckster or Paul) in one fell-swoop, he should pick Mitt and create a mini-legacy of unity (demonstrating the ability to get-along throughout the GOP).
ASAP!
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Conservatives don't want you on our side. Watching you is like watching James Carville in 1992, I didn't like the 'BS' then and don't like it now. It's interesting you brought up the ACU's lifetime ratings for conservative votes. As you can see below, your 'girl' Hillary is on the top of the list.....
Hillary Clinton 9%
Barrack Obama 8%
John McCain 82.3%
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She is always so inspiring and thoughful. She knows her material. God I hope McCain does something smart like choosing Romney for Vice President or the RNC will have thrown the election to the media who will never choose a Republican anyway. McCain cannot win.
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I admire Mitt Romney for his noble offer to suspend his campaign to unite his party and America in a time of war. I continue to believe that if the conservative vote had not been split, that John McCain would not have the position of strength he has today.
Mathematically Mike Huckabee has no chance of winning the GOP nomination. He and Ron Paul should probably step down so GOP energies and resources can be focussed on beating the Democrats.
However, Huckabee has every right to continue the battle.
So, it was to my consternation that Fox News did not carry Huckabee's important speech at CPAC. They were there, showed us a few clips, but returned to the silly threesome trying to be comedians.
I had to turn to MSNBC to watch Huckabee's speech. Although I am not a Huckabee supporter, it was an excellent speech. If it was just him and McCain, and Huckabee had a chance, as a god-fearing conservative I'd vote for Huckabee.
Given the light of day and McCain's incredible delegate lead though I still think if McCain would quickly appoint Romney as his running mate that he could unite the GOP and the two of them would have a chance for success in November.
We know the media continues to favor Obama and McCain, but SHAME ON FOX NEWS for not carrying Huckabee's CPAC speech! |
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The authenticity attack is disingenuous. Romney has been consistent on every issue except abortion, but he had a dear, close relative die from an illegal abortion. That happened in real life. It was not a political strategy. He had a struggle with the role of government on the issue even though he opposed abortion and couseled women against having abortions. As Governor, he could not bring himself to sign anti-life legislation and emerged pro-life.
The authenticity attacks are exposed as smears here:
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What evidence do you have to suggest that Huckabee would have Romney as his running mate??? Have you not seen the seething anger in Huckabee's eyes at the mere mention of Romney's name? The off the cuff remarks he made about how "Mormons believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers" speaks volumes about how Huckabee feels about Romney.
Besides, if he would run with Romney, why did he so vehemently attack Romney, and not McCain when McCain was the clear front runner?
Huckabee HATES Romney!! He's only staying in the race to get some delegates to have some bargaining chips in a McCain administration. |
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The authenticity attack is disingenuous. Romney has been consistent on every issue except abortion, but he had a dear, close relative die from an illegal abortion. That happened in real life. It was not a political strategy. He had a struggle with the role of government on the issue even though he opposed abortion and couseled women against having abortions. As Governor, he could not bring himself to sign anti-life legislation and emerged pro-life.
The authenticity attacks are exposed as smears here:
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You don't speak for conservatives! Last I checked no one was forcing you snobs to listen! |
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Wasn't that a great speech at CPAC. Wasn't it, Fox News. Oh!, what's that? Fox News watchers didn't see it! Do you mean the Mitt Romney Propaganda Network didn't show it! Fair and balanced my *ss.
Now we know. Fox News is no longer a news network they are a plane and simple propaganda machine! |
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for perpetuating Ann Coulter's association with conservatives. She should be a pariah not a guest speaker. Her hate-filled personal attacks should be given no quarter in American politics, let alone among thinking conservatives. CPAC was right to leave her uninvited and it's a disgrace that the Young Americans gave her a vehicle to perpetuate the myth that she's respected by large parts of the conservative movement. Even more shame on the attendees that applauded and cheered her cheap theatrics. |
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I will say I'm going to cross over and vote for her in the Ohio primary. Here are my reasons:
1) Barack manages to be more liberal than she (is that the same as being wetter than water?)
2) I despise McCain, but I don't want a Dem filling several Supreme Court vacancies, and Hillary will be easier to beat in the general.
3) If their crossovers can give us McCain, I think we should return the favor. |
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Our Primary is March 4 also and we have been discussing voting in the Dem. Primary. Since our voice will not matter on the Republican side why not "Help" the Dems pick theirs.
My Senator and Congressman are running unopposed (Both R) so the Dem's need out help just as much as McCain needs ours also. |
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All of projections Coulter makes are based on the assumption that Hillary gets the nomination. Admittedly, Clinton would probably be tougher on terror than McCain, if for no other reason than she is a woman and has more to prove.
But Obama actually believes in his heart-of-hearts that we can TALK to the savages! He believes that we can work things out, and that people on both sides are essentially good.
This is exactly like Carter's view of the Soviets, pre-Afghanistan. Or his view of the Ayatollah before the Iranian revolution.
Even McCain would be better than that. |
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Political Free Speech--see McCain Feingold--, there shoud not be any.
Oh but wait that would mean you don't have it either. How blinded we get when we disagree on issues, but with that #@*#@*#@*# (trying to use McCains own words here people) Free Speech Diplomat McCain as an example, follow him all, if you must. I will steer clear of such closed minded thinking and support Ann in her Right to say whatever she wants, while she can. |
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Wow Ann, you sure have a lot of jerks making irrational comments about you and your speech. It must be George Bush's fault. The only mistake George Bush made in his Presidency was not nominating you to the Supreme Court.
Don't ever stop--you're doing great! Rile those know nothing jerks up!! |
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Freedom of Speech allows for Ann to say she believes Judaism is incomplete. PC does not allow Ann to make this statement. Perhaps Ann opens the Old Testament and New Testament and maybe she studies them. Most people do not. She probably offended some people. But that's okay. We have the right to be offended. |
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RIGHT ON ANN!!! CPAC SHOULD BE CHASTISED FOR NOT ALLOWING ANN TO SPEAK. HER THOUGHTS ARE JUST THE SHOT IN THE ARM THAT STUPID CONSERVATIVES NEED AT THIS CRITICAL POINT IN TIME. WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU PEOPLE?? WE HAVE A PERSON WHO IS WILLING TO STAND UP AND TELL THE TRUTH REGUARDLESS OF HOW FOREIGN IT MAY SOUND TO THOSE WHO WANT TO FORGET HER AND YOUR SOLUTION IS TO BAN HER FROM YOUR SO CALLED CONSERVATIVE PLATFORM. YOU ARE PART OF WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE PARTY TODAY. YOU HAVE STEP OUT OF PEW AS IT IS CALLED. RE-THINK YOUR POSITON AND PRIORITIES. |
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AFTER READING SOME OF THE REMARKS WRITTEN ON THIS BLOG, I HAVE TO SAY "HELLO-O-O-O...ARE THERE ANY REPUBLICANS OUT THERE"? NO WONDER WE ARE LEFT HAVING TO CHOOSE A CANDIDATE THAT IS SO FAR LEFT HE WILL NEVER FIND HIS WAY BACK EVEN WITH A 1000 SUNS LIGHTING HIS WAY. DO YOU PEOPLE HEAR YOURSELF? UNBELIEVABLE!! THANK GOD THERE ARE STILL THOSE OF US LEFT LIKE ANN, MYSELF AND A GRACIOUS FEW OTHERS WHO DON'T HAVE TO SETTLE OR COMPROMISE OUR BELIEFS. I THINK YOU'VE GOTTA HECK OF A NERVE CALLING YOURSELF A CONSERVATIVE. YOU NEED TO GO BACK TO THE MANUAL AND RE-READ THE RULES AND REGULATIONS. MAYBE IT WILL HELP YOU TO SEE THE ERROR OF YOUR WAYS, IF NOT THEN GO AHEAD AND CONVERT ON PAPER AND THEN SHOUT IT TO THE HEAVENS THAT YOU HAVE BECOME A BONIFIED
L-I-B-E-R-A-L WITH AS MUCH EMPHASIS ON THE WORD AS POSSIBLE, BECUASE THAT IS EXACTLY WHO AND WHAT YOU ARE SOUNDING LIKE. |
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If Ann continues and the rightpundits piece this morning is correct,McCain will drop out of the GOP race in a matter of days. |
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I don't agree with your entire analysis Dr. Bob, but support for McCain is based on the premise that he'll move us further left but not as far left as the loony Dems.
As a solid conservative, I'm with Astro. I want the Republican party to go down in flames as it deserves. Maybe then a truly conservative party will rise out of the ashes.
Is Obama or Clinton dangerous for our future? Sure, but I liken them to Carter and we rebounded quite well from his catastrophic Presidency.
Will people lives be imperiled by Obama or Clinton? Probably, but patriots do not fear death when the choice is between liberty or death.
McCain is a disaster. With his nomination, the Repubs have joined the Dems in asking for the government to replace freedom and responsibility with government programs. I say give the people what they want...and if we aren't destroyed by it, we may get what we need. |
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What's with the 60 Hz (cycle) hum on the audio. . .
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gleefully revels in the demise of the US republic. Perhaps he will enjoy his socialist global masters better. Remember commies, marxism has a historic presidence for economic failure and tyrany. But don't let a little thing like facts stand in your way.
The bright side to this trend is when socialism finishes destroying the US dollar, and it equals or falls below the value of the peso, the illigal Mexicans will go home. Perhaps this is McMexicos plan to fix the illegal immigration problem.
Be sure to plant some corn and potatoes this spring. Raising some chickens would help too if you are not a member in standing of PETA.
Great speech Ann. I sure wish you would consider running for prisident in 12! You sure seem to have mere kahonas than anyone else in the republican party. |
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Novak in an article suggests that rumors from Political Operatives close to President Bush that McCain is thinking about ex-Rep. Rob Portman of Ohio as his VP. Thinking Ohio is a necessary state as was in 2004. Rob Portman's past shows a strong 89 percent American Conservative Union. Experience in legislative & executive branch. Like I said, McCain needs to reach out to us to succeed. We either vote as a united conservative movement or he's history. He has time to wake up and stretch that liberal arm out to the right or he'll be only a bitter "has-been" with late regrets and could have been stories. He needs us, it actually feels good!!!! |
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Townhall, I'm doing my best to save you from yourself. You choose to air Ann Coulters repugnant words rather than Mike Huckabee's respectful speech. He has a chance at making a difference in this world.
Since I'm not babysitting the constituency of TownHall, I will let you hear Mike Huckabee's CPAC speech.
http://www.mikehuckabee.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Blogs.View &Blog_id=1410
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The word is "cajones" (Spanish) and not "kahonas" (which 'sounds' Hawaiian which would make Coulter a shemale. |
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I'll take NATALIE Portman |
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Among the remaining 3 Democrats (Obama, Hillary, and McCain) it looks like the Democrat from Arizona is the best choice. Game over. There's no Republican alternative in 2008. Amazing coup by the Dems. How did they get a Dem to win the Republican nomination?
1) Loves Al Gore's Global warming perspectives
2) Votes against Tax cuts
3) Supports class warfare against the rich
4) Wants to shut down Guantanomo, waterboarding, etc.
5) McCain loves Feingold
6) McCain loves Kennedy
7) Senate voting record last 8 years = liberal
8) Thinks Hillary would make a good President
9) Against drilling in ANWR
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Thank god you're one of the most freakisly intelligent and audacious pundits out there. You gave me a much needed laugh.
Meanwhile - Since McCain voters love to base decisions of principles on poll numbers, here's the most recent trends, via ReadClearPolitics.
McCain vs. Obama
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NBC/WSJ (01/20 - 01/22)...............Tie
Rasmussen (01/25 - 01/27)..........McCain +6.0
NPR (01/29 - 01/31)......................McCain +1.0
FOX News (01/30 - 01/31)...........Obama +1.0
ABC/Wash Post (01/30 - 02/01)...Obama +3.0
Cook/RT Strategies (01/31 - 02/02).Obama +2.0
CNN (02/01 - 02/03).....................Obama +8.0
Time (02/01 - 02/04)....................Obama +7.0
McCain vs. Hillary
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Rasmussen (01/25 - 01/27).........McCain +8.0
NPR (01/29 - 01/31)..................McCain +3.0
FOX News (01/30 - 01/31)..........McCain +1.0
ABC/Wash Post (01/30 - 02/01)...McCain +3.0
Cook/RT Strategies (01/31-02/02).McCain +4.0
CNN (02/01 - 02/03)................Clinton +3.0
Time (02/01 - 02/04)................Tie
Since the lead up to Super Tuesday and it's aftermath, Hillary's caught up to a tie with the angry little man, and Obama is flat out pulling ahead. The deflation of McCain's MSM "poll" supremacy has already started. I know these polls are very premature (just like they were a month ago, right McCain poll watchers?) But we'll see where they go between now and Nov.
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These phony "Republicans" telling us how we must support McCain and how Ann is everything from a "MediaWhore" to an "Anti-Semite" to a rich "talking head" are an absolute scream with their BS.
They're as bad as, and somoetimes even worse than, the real libs that are trying to convince us to vote for McCain because they know that the Democrats plan is to get us to nominate this sham of a war "Hero" so that as soon as that happens they can unleash all of thweir stored up ammo against him and give Hillary a walk away victory in November.
Well forget it, your BS isn't going to work this time just like it has never worked in the past, and won't in the future either. |
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Kenny, the answer is that probably some amateur plugged his camera into a different circuit than the house audio feed, thus creating a ground loop.
Great speech Ann. Absolutely spot on and demonstrably so given that so many of your naysayers on this thread could not come up with a single rebuttal to what you were saying.
Ann is the brightest start on the political punditry scene today and for that, lesser minds despise her. |
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Conservatives voted for Romney and Huckleberry Hound. Republicans-X Cubans-Mexicans and Libs voted for McVain. Oh yes, and old Vets in Florida that weren't informed soon enough before election. (Time Tables for The War--LIE) |
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It's too bad everything Ann said about Huckabee was from the Romney propaganda/attack script that he bombarded the airwaves & mail with for 6 months when he couldn't get people to vote for him on his own shaky merits. He attacked Huck w/lies about his record and motives. Ann said that Huck raised taxes, failing to mention Arkansans voted for these taxes to give him money to rebuild roads, educational system, attract new businesses of all kinds and sizes, expand & improve health care, reduce crime, improve & add parks & rec.areas,etc. As new revenues & jobs came in, he got people off welfare & cut back taxes to their original levels. Oops! She forgot to mention that! The documented immigrant kids that qualified & got scholarships were in line for citizenship & here to stay & school is cheaper that welfare or prison. His
fellow governors elected him their leader, because of his effectiveness and moral leadership. She forgot that, too! All this info is available at
Huckabee.com. Guess she forgot how to read!
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My view that we need to support McVain (to the degree HE determines, not reflexly) and that McVain should choose Mitt for Veep have not been logically disproven during the day, although some simply opined otherwise.
Defensively, Fabius wrote: "Coulter may not be aware that Judaism is also a part of the Jewish people’s culture and ethnic identity. So, that is why I believe Deutsch was offended by Coulter’s remark which was a mild attempt at converting Donny Deutsch to Christianity: Deutsch may have interpreted it as an insult to his ethnic identity which is also his religious identity. If one believes that his religion will lead you to heaven, and he wants you to join his religion so that you may go to heaven: Is that anti-Semitism or anti-Anything?"
First, she is QUITE AWARE of the admixture of Jewish culture/ethnicity/religiosity. Second, it is absurd to suggest that she was (on the air, suddenly) trying to convert DD to Christianity. Third, it was an insult to his religious identity to denegrate his (and my) chosen religious orientation.
Keep your beliefs to yourself, try to convert when there is some receptivity to your argument...but DO NOT foist upon an ENTIRE GROUP your notion of SUPERIORITY...admixed with the opinion that you consider the listener to be INFERIOR. THAT is ANTI-SEMITISM.
[BTW, the text of the DD-interview after the break was confirmatory, even as he gently tried to help her to soften her position.]
Wikipedia: "Prejudice and hostility toward Jews as a religious, racial, or ethnic group." [Note the use of the words "prejudice" and "or" in this definition.] She has negatively prejudged the religion of Judaism (with or without its cultural manifestations).
Until she recants, she is an anti-Semite.
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Mary:
First, explicit in your comment was that the tax-increase (that you admitted the Huckster foisted upon his citizenry) was completely reversed. This point is not made on the official-site; indeed, it notes he left a "surplus" and, it should be remembered, he was not court-ordered to raise any taxes (unlike what transpired with Mitt in Mass, when he only raised selected fees). Thus, you confirmed the fact that he raised taxes [for whatever lofty goals] and failed to confirm the fact that he returned them to baseline, as you averred.
http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.View&Issue_i d=5
Second, scholarships for "undocumented" immigrant-kids only legitimize the status of Illegals. This is to be condemned; this is TAX-$$$ that he's spending on people who should instead be encouraged to return (with their parents) whence they came.
Thus, Ann's portrayal of the Huckster was accurate. If anything, it understated his ignorance of foreign policy and his inappropriate attack on Bush ("arrogant bunker mentality" ... ). And she also could have dwelled on other quotations and inappropriate/unjustified attacks on Mitt...when his issues-oriented ads were being debated. |
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wooks wike my wittle comments were too harsh, even for the Ann Coulter croud...
poo babys
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Your people are losers... |
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What is it you McCainiacs don't get:
1) McCain supports embryonic stem cell research.
2) McCain is a disciple of Al Gore's Global Warming.
3) McCain has an ACU ranking in 2006 as the 47th most conservative out of 100 senators.
4) McCain opposes common sense drilling in ANWR.
5) McCain-Feingold
6) McCain-Kennedy
7) Opposes Guantanomo and Waterboarding
8) McCain quote: "Hillary would make a fine President".
9) McCain lies about Romney's position re: timetables for withdrawal. Cowardly, political gamesmanship.
10) McCain won't face his conservative opponents like a man.
11) McCain admits he knows nothing about the Economy.
12) McCain opposes tax cuts.
13) McCain's reason for opposing tax cuts is because the rich are bad and don't deserve it.
14) McCain is not a strong supporter of Israel. Maybe McCain is an anti-semite? (I noticed there's been some threads on this so it's possible McCain could be added to the list of anti-semites also.)
Let's have other conservatives add to this list!! What other left leaning positions has McCain taken? Come on, folks...there's much more to add to the list...
The Democrats won! Game over! Checkmate!
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I didn't miss her point; I truly wish I had!
She didn't merely "imply" superiority/inferiority; she explicitly/repeatedly said it.
If I say to you, ecumenically, I disagree for these reasons...but don't try to (1)--convert you on-the-spot, or (2)--aver I have subsumed your viewpoints within my own...then that's OK.
If I do otherwise, I am broadcasting both a know-it-all status about deeply-held beliefs AND the judgment that you are flawed (else why would you need to be "perfected"?).
This was her error.
To the contrary, I do not argue that Judaism is "superior"; indeed, proselytizing isn't inherent. [Recall that Sammy Davis, Jr. had to proclaim publicly his desires, thrice, before they were sustained, a half-century ago.]
Finally, this is an absurdity: "If Christianity comes from Judaism, and Christ is a Jew, and the greatest person who ever lived, how can anyone think that Judaism or Jews are inferior?" Even if Christianity traces roots to Judaism, Jesus (a rabbi, even) isn't viewed as a "Christ" ["Savior"] and, thus, isn't perceived as "the greatest person who ever lived." Thus, the antecedent (disproven) doesn't support the predicate. She DENOTED (not merely "connoted") this conclusion, REPEATEDLY; read the transcript.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301216,00.html
She honestly answered "yes" when asked if she believes that this country "would be better if we were all Christian."
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When it comes to religious topics and conversations I would fully expect a Muslim to tell me that my Christian view is inferior. I would fully expect orhodox Jews to believe their view of the Holy Scriptures to be superior to my view. Why should I be offended? I don't get it Dr. Bob? A communist believes my view of capitalism is inferior. So what? I don't understand how that is hostility. Should the Jew, Muslim, and Communist recant their philosophical opinion? I would never expect them to do so. That's the nature of argument and debate. Where's the hostility? Did she throw rocks? Did she advocate law that would undermine your liberty and freedoms? I fully expect a Mormon to believe his religion is superior then me. I fully expect a Mormon to think his eternal outcome is superior to mine. So what? Where's the hostility? Do I demand a recant?
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DEUTSCH: I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that at all. Maybe you have the chip looking at them. I see a lot of interracial couples, and I don't see any more or less chips there either way. That's erroneous.
COULTER: No. In fact, there was an entire "Seinfeld" episode about Elaine and her boyfriend dating because they wanted to be a mixed-race couple, so you're lying.
DEUTSCH: Oh, because of some "Seinfeld" episode? OK.
HERE, she over-accuses the interviewer of "lying" by quoting a (fictional) TV episode?
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COULTER: Well, OK, take the Republican National Convention. People were happy. They're Christian. They're tolerant. They defend America, they —
DEUTSCH: Christian — so we should be Christian? It would be better if we were all Christian?
COULTER: Yes.
DEUTSCH: We should all be Christian?
COULTER: Yes. Would you like to come to church with me, Donny?
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DEUTSCH: That isn't what I said, but you said I should not — we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or —
COULTER: Yeah.
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DEUTSCH: Really?
COULTER: Well, it's a lot easier. It's kind of a fast track.
DEUTSCH: Really?
COULTER: Yeah. You have to obey.
DEUTSCH: You can't possibly believe that.
COULTER: Yes.
DEUTSCH: You can't possibly — you're too educated, you can't — you're like my friend in —
COULTER: Do you know what Christianity is? We believe your religion, but you have to obey.
DEUTSCH: No, no, no, but I mean —
COULTER: We have the fast-track program.
Note her overt projection of superiority, wrapped around a sense of duty because "you have to obey." She can obey whatever she desires, but don't say you seek a world without Jews!
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We believe the Old Testament. As you know from the Old Testament, God was constantly getting fed up with humans for not being able to, you know, live up to all the laws. What Christians believe — this is just a statement of what the New Testament is — is that that's why Christ came and died for our sins. Christians believe the Old Testament. You don't believe our testament.
DEUTSCH: You said — your exact words were, "Jews need to be perfected." Those are the words out of your mouth.
COULTER: No, I'm saying that's what a Christian is.
DEUTSCH: But that's what you said — don't you see how hateful, how anti-Semitic —
COULTER: No!
DEUTSCH: How do you not see? You're an educated woman. How do you not see that?
COULTER: That isn't hateful at all.
DEUTSCH: But that's even a scarier thought. OK —
COULTER: No, no, no, no, no. I don't want you being offended by this. This is what Christians consider themselves, because our testament is the continuation of your testament. You know that. So we think Jews go to heaven. I mean (Jerry) Falwell himself said that, but you have to follow laws. Ours is "Christ died for our sins." We consider ourselves perfected Christians. For me to say that for you to become a Christian is to become a perfected Christian is not offensive at all.
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So, God was "fed up" because the Jews didn't always follow his Laws, so he sent Jesus to set-us-straight, eh?
Then, we need to "obey" a new set of laws, right?
Next, the "new testament is a continuation of the old testament" even if adherents of the former do not concur, capiche?
Finally, no, none of this is intended to be offensive, sure.
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Since McCain voters love to base decisions of principles on poll numbers, here's the most recent trends, via ReadClearPolitics.
McCain vs. Obama
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NBC/WSJ (01/20 - 01/22)...............Tie
Rasmussen (01/25 - 01/27)..........McCain +6.0
NPR (01/29 - 01/31)......................McCain +1.0
FOX News (01/30 - 01/31)...........Obama +1.0
ABC/Wash Post (01/30 - 02/01)...Obama +3.0
Cook/RT Strategies (01/31 - 02/02).Obama +2.0
CNN (02/01 - 02/03).....................Obama +8.0
Time (02/01 - 02/04)....................Obama +7.0
McCain vs. Hillary
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Rasmussen (01/25 - 01/27).........McCain +8.0
NPR (01/29 - 01/31)..................McCain +3.0
FOX News (01/30 - 01/31)..........McCain +1.0
ABC/Wash Post (01/30 - 02/01)...McCain +3.0
Cook/RT Strategies (01/31-02/02).McCain +4.0
CNN (02/01 - 02/03)................Clinton +3.0
Time (02/01 - 02/04)................Tie
Since the lead up to Super Tuesday and it's aftermath, Hillary's caught up to a tie with the angry little man, and Obama is flat out pulling ahead. The deflation of McCain's MSM "poll" supremacy has already started. I know these polls are very premature (just like they were a month ago, right McCain poll watchers?) But we'll see where they go between now and Nov.
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Ann said she would vote for the devil before she would vote for Mccain? So what she is actually saying is that she would vote for herself before she would vote for Mccain.
Today John Bolton endorsed Mccain whole heartedly. Bolton is by far no liberal. As a Marine I would be proud to have Mccain as my commander in chief.
Dr. Bob, I agree with you, Ann sounds anti-semitic to me. But thats no suprise from a person who endores a socilist and spews hatered to a war hero.
You do not have to agree with everything Mccain has done, but open your eyes. He is not the ant-christ (ann is).
R.I.P. Ann, your audience is leaving you, you are no longer revelent to the conservative movement. Ann is the Britney Spears of the conservatives.
Turn off your radio's people and think for yourselves. Do not trust people who make their living from ratings and being controversail. Listen to people who have actully done something fro their country. Worked in Washington to fight for conservatives. People like John Bolton. |
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No, Astroboy, neither a majority of Republicans nor a majority of conservatives voted for McCain.
The majority voted for "other than" McCain.
McCain only got something like 38% of Republican votes, most of which (the votes he got) I doubt were conservative.
Dr Bob;
Other than citing how terrible the Democrats are, explain to me why I should vote FOR McCain.
On what issues does he agree with me?
Not free speech
Not tax cuts.
Not torturing terrorists.
Not keeping Gitmo active.
Not conservative judges.
Not expelling illegals and punishing their employers.
So, why should I vote for him rather than a Democrat?
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Almost everywhere I go in OK City, I see some fast food place or other with "Now Hiring" or "Help Wanted" signs.
Now if they just make the working conditions decent and the pay worthwhile, they'll be back in business.
I'm so tickled to be able to pull up to a drive through and not have to explain my order in pidgin English.
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I'm from Montana, we have a democrat governor and two democrat senators. All they do is brag about how much pork they bring to Montana.
Coulter said nothing of value. She lied for Romney, still. He is for gun control, I guess he hasn't flipped on that yet. He is for destroying embryos, hasn't flipped on that yet. He will not further the pro-life movement, that's a multiple flip isn't it? He has hunted all his life. . . oops, only twice he meant. He "saw" his father march with King, whatever "saw" means. He ran a negative campaign and is a liberal.
What a bunch of stupid young people.
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McCain loves democrats and they showed their love for him by voting for him in primaries where voters can vote for either party. McCain is like like a wanna-be democrat who never got an invitation to the democrat party. Now he wants to make them sorry by getting elected by conservative voters. It's laughable.
McCain has disdain for Republicans and often demeans them if they disagree with his politics. McCain might become President if he attracts enough democrats to vote for him in the general election because he's not going to convince real conservatives for fall for his disgraceful politics. |
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I worry about her mental health. |
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Fabius, Ann transcended what you blithely rationalize-away as "verbal joustings amomg friends" because she crossed multiple lines; even if she feels her faith supersedes that of everyone else AND wants to explain why, she should not be faulting the pursuits of others.
She exceeded the definition of "anti-Semitism," as some herein have concurred.
JDW, elections are choices. The Ds are universally unable to diagnose "islamofascism" and, thus pander in symptomatic-treatment of "terrorism." Survival is at-stake. Only the R can save us.
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Regarding the litany of problems with McCain, one can only hope that he will (1)--choose a veep who will "transmit the message" that he will abide by Conservative Principles, or (2)--be subject to the identical successes enjoyed during recent years when the people (via Talk Radio, in particular) restrained Bush.
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In Judaism, one is often invited to revel in confronting the paradox, for essential (sometimes mystical) truths emerge therefrom. Indeed, Talmudic logic is fraught with apparent contradictions. So, too, with listening to (holding one's ears) and reading (with eyes wide shut) Ann. She is uniquely provocative/evocative, even as she abuses privileges unnecessarily.
She will be invited back to CPAC in '09 if she can tone-it-down just-a-bit; McCain could win in '09 if he can rev-it-up just-a-bit. McCain must be more demonstrative (and choose Mitt) while Ann must be less demonstrative (and choose tolerance).
Both need to supress their egos and truly REACH OUT! |
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It seems "tolerance" is a one way street these days. It is "tolerance" when Christians are attacked but "Hate Speech" when Christians talk.
It is "tolerance" when Islam's attack Americas values and says in no uncertan words "Israel should be wiped off the Earth, yet it is Hate Speach when Islam is questioned.
I see your "Tolerance" for what it is!! and I thank you my friend your thoughtfullness and concern!! |
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i concur that others should also practice tolerance without inhibiting the free-flow of ideas.
But overt prejudice shouldn't be tolerable, for it poisons the discourse. |
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c'mon, most of you posting comments here should lighten up a bit. you don't like her humor? fine. She does raise good points in between her jokes. I hope most of you are thinking about a more important issue than an Ann Coulter speech such as: do we want to go down the same path as the U.K. which by electing a Liberal Democrat would do. More dependency on Government is bad for America, Our founders did NOT advocate Socialism. One more comment on a different matter: If my Pastor gave a award to Louis Farrakhan or a David Duke, I would be looking for another Church immediately! |
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I've enjoyed Ann's blunt dissection of left wing insansity over the years, and have always thought she was no more shrill or radical on the right side of the debate than countless pundits, bloggers, The New York Times, MSNBC, et al are on the left.
However, the poster who said that she has now "jumped the shark" is exactly right. Her entire argument here is rendered in utter disengenuousness. She mentions John McCain's two votes on the Bush tax cuts as proof positive of a liberal attitude toward taxes. She conveniently fails to mention that (to my knowledge, correct me if I am wrong here) he has never voted for a tax INCREASE in his entire career in Washington. Hardly a minor detail, but I guess the truth gets in the way of her gleeful bash-fest. Guantanamo bay and waterboarding are two elements of a vast effort against terrorism. I disagree with McCain on those points, but that notwithstanding I can hardly see how anyone can honestly say that he won't be a hell of a lot tougher on national security than Hillary or Obama.
I could go on and on. The thirst for defeat that Ann and like-minded kamikaze Republicans have is just mind boggling. I don't know what it is exactly that they are trying to accomplish. |
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Ann, I don't understand your stratgies. Vote Hillary to stop McCain or vote for McCain if Romney is his Vice. Give me a break...... Here is a strategy vote For Ron Paul or another one which is what I am pushing for which is at the convention vote in another person that is a conservative like maybe bring back one who dropped out of the race. Tom Tancredo comes to mind. He was as many after he dropped out saud the most conservative of the whole bunch. His voting record and his life fell right in line with every conservative principal and value but where were you & Sean, Bill, Glenn, Mark, Rush Michelle, Michael and so on with the list? Oh, yea it at that time was on the ideology of elect ability saying that true conservatism wouldn't hold it's own weight against Hillary or Obama! Here is two sites that may motivate you and the other conservative brainiacs to using some real strategies and not cave in to the Party's out of control direction. http://vote-itz-ur-right.com or http://an-american-for-sovereignty.com . It is not time to give up it is only half time so let's just make some adjustments and go out there and kick some booty. |
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Yeah, she shocks us sometimes with her forthright bluntness - but gosh it's fun. |
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"I could go on and on. The thirst for defeat that Ann and like-minded kamikaze Republicans have is just mind boggling. I don't know what it is exactly that they are trying to accomplish."
I expect most Repubs will fall in line and vote for McCain. The problem for Repubs is that many of us our conservatives, not Repubs. We seem like Repubs because we've always ended up voting that way, but it is only because the differences between your candidates and the Dems candidates have been cavernous.
This time you're well on your way to nominating a liberal. Conservatives reject liberalism under any name. Republicans want to win at any cost. Conservatives won't accept victory if we have to join the enemy to win. We'd rather hunker down in the trenches and wait for the next opportunity for real victory. |
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As a "liberal", I am just thrilled that the GOP has given the keys of thier party to the Talk show hosts and talking heads that represent the extreme far right of what they claim is "conservatism." None of the "talkies" I speak of have ever served thier country in any capacity. Not the armed forces, not the peace corps, not any elected office. Basicly nothing. Yet they claim to be the enlightened ones. Explain if you will, how you can claim to be conservatives with your recent record.
Corruption: Bob Ney, Duke Cunningham, Tom Delay, Mark Foley et al........
Less Government? Anti Choice, Terri Shiavo.
Fiscal responsibility: A nation headed toward recession and an expanding national debt that will take a generation to pay off. It's not tax and spend with your ilk, it's spend and spend and spend some more, and then borrow from CHina to keep spending.
In short, your party is on the road to neverland folks. Turnout in the primaries is close to 2 to 1 favoring the Dems. Not only will you lose the White House, you may lose 7 -10 senate seats and perhaps 30 more house seats. How else can you explain so many retired and resigned GOP house and senators. THey are jumping ship folks, before they get their hats handed to them. Me, i just laugh. |
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Thank You so much, Ann, for standing up for reason and honor. Our country has fallen between the vices of endorsements and polls...allowing themselves to be manipulated and tossed to and fro by good old boys clubs and the opinions of 750 randomly selected strangers, allowing these thinking machines to dictate to them what their value systems are.
Since the conservative movement has decidedly splintered and tossed out the only candidate that would dedicate himself to the cause, I am left with no other option. I am sorry that I cannot follow your lead and go for Clinton as I am left with the choice of picking the most honorable candidate...Huckabee's pact with McCain to never cross paths while campaigning and his continuous attacks on Romney and his snide remarks about the LDS religion has shown clearly his lack of honor.
My family and friends and associates and I are leaving the party...hopefully temporarily...we will vote for the most honorable candidate...Obama. If we have to remake Washington, we will start with honor...it has to start somewhere. |
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Spending and deficits are easy to understand. Repubs have embraced liberalism/socialism. This also explains why the bravest of the "talking heads" reject McCain.
I'm not surprised that a liberal would confuse conservatism with Republicanism.
Enjoy your laugh. I'll be voting for Obama if your comrades in the Dem party give me the chance. Then we will all discover what happens to a country that fully embraces socialism.
If we get lucky and our able to spit the socialist poison out, as The Big Mick envisions, the country will turn to conservatism to save us from extinction. Our savior may come as a Republican or as something else, but it will be conservatism because democracy can only work with conservative principles.
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin |
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Dawncy and all you dedicated Huckabee supporters. No doubt you are sincere. However, you still fail to realize that Huckabee lost mannnnnny states in the primary so far...he lost with 6%, 8%, 11% etc. followings...This type of following will never win the November election...never....even if he could win the primary and he can't possibly win that many delegates in the remaining states.
For any cause to prosper, sacrifices have to be made. In a primary election, it is customary for the voters to realize which candidate has the best chance of winning FIRST in their own party and then back that candidate in the fall. The problem seems to have arisen that the conservative party followers seem to disregard the fact that their choice of candidate cannot carry even the conservative vote in the primary among themselves...For the life of me...I know not why conservatives cannot get a grasp on this. But insist on backing their candidate they like inspite of the fact that only 10% other voters agree with that choice...This type of reasoning is not logical...and it cannot produce a candidate that has a chance of winning in the general election. |
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Nor is it logical to act like lemmings to the sea, but Repubs can't seem to help themselves.
My loyalty is to my principles. My principles align with what is commonly called conservatism. The Republican party has shown a greater tendency to promote and support conservative values. Thus, conservatives have shown a greater tendency to vote for Republican.
It is not logical for a conservative to vote for a liberal. Considering that voting for a liberal Repub will serve to further erode conservative principles within the Republican party, it makes absolutely no sense to reward a liberal Repub with our vote.
The best strategy for conservatives is to withhold our vote until Repubs turn back towards conservatives prinicples. We know there is little chance of Dems embracing conservatism, and there will be little chance of Repubs re-embracing conservatism if we send the message that we are willing to support a liberal Repub.
McCain? Never. It's illogical. |
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Reading these posts, I see that Ann's critics are out of their log cabins again.
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For all of you critics who dig deep for every nasty word you can find to hurl at Ann Coulter - your intellectual prowess is extremely deficient. She is perhaps one of the most insightful and intelligent persons we have had the good fortune to have brave the natives and actually STAND FOR SOMETHING.
She is brave and courageous and an excellent role model to every person, young and old alike that, in spite of nasty critics, stand up for what you believe - no matter what. Terrorism comes in many forms and those who dedicate themselves to slandering Ann Coulter are terrorists.
I long for the day when common sense rules over emotions because emotions are destroying our culture and out society. To be able to move beyond an emotional reaction and see the intensity and depth of a persons knowledge and skill is definitely a virtue.
Thank you Ann for your intelligence, your insight and your courage. Thank you for recognizing that Mitt Romney was the very best candidate we had - America will suffer for his absence. |
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It sounds like you have a crush?
It's pretty sad that your idea of a role model is a single, barren women in her late fourties who makes a living calling people f@ggots and giggling that Barack Obama is half black.
Yeah, those sure are some really intelligent insights.
You should aim higher in life, dear. |
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This speech by Coulter has been featured on the home page of townhall.com for too long. It was not worthy of even the initial featuring by townhall.com. Now it is ridiculous. What Coulter says in her speech will be seen in time as monumentally stupid.
As for the posters who defend Coulter with slander of we who see her for what she now is, all I will say is that you are very badly mistaken. I have sons in the military, and I want for them the best possible Commander in Chief. That is John McCain. Coulter's "analysis" is wide of the mark, and her concerns at present are really about herself. |
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