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Monday, November 10, 2008
MN Senate Race Being Hijacked?
Posted by: Matt Lewis at 5:27 PM
Fox News reports: 
"Minnesota is becoming to 2008 politics what Florida was in 2000 or Washington State in 2006 -- a real mess. The outcome will determine whether Democrats get 58 members of the U.S. Senate, giving them an effective filibuster-proof vote on many issues." 

When voters woke up on Wednesday morning after the election, Senator Norm Coleman led Al Franken by what seemed like a relatively comfortable 725 votes. By Wednesday night, that lead had shrunk to 477. By Thursday night, it was down to 336. By Friday, it was 239. Late Sunday night, the difference had gone down to just 221 -- a total change over 4 days of 504 votes.

Amazingly, this all has occurred even though there hasn’t even yet been a recount. Just local election officials correcting claimed typos in how the numbers were reported. Counties will certify their results today, and their final results will be sent to the secretary of state by Friday. The actual recount won’t even start until November 19."

Obviously, it's important that we step up and make sure this recount is conducted fairly. 

*** To aide in Sen. Coleman's recount efforts, click here.

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PAT writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 5:35 PM
Think Chicago - Untouchables GOP-wake up
They send in flamethrowers and
bulldozers, we send in a school marm.

They send in fake ballots, and sell their
stories to the compliant press, and we go,
oh, that sounds strange, but, okay.......

Where's the outrage in Minnesota?
Where's the protests?
Where is the hysteria from Coleman, buddy,
they're stealing your Senate seat.

Don't be so darn 'my dear friend'......

It's Al Franken, and he's measuring the
drapes. Really.


I'm sure they've found 222 votes in a box
somewhere in the basement of the state house,
and there's a flood about to happen too soon.
Just like in Oregon.

This is the Chicago style Democrats in Minnesota.
Will the GOP ever learn?

jtb-in-texas writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 6:01 PM
It's too late.
The problems began many years ago.

We had the chance to stop the leftists; but instead we chose to be non-confrontational, to compromise, to show the white feather...

Now they control the educational systems around the country, most branches of government... It won't be long before our vaunted freedoms mean less than those of the North Koreans or Venezuelans...
Luna writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 6:21 PM
We need to get more creative!
Maybe next time we should try hiding the ballots in different places. Seems the Dems know all the usual hiding places, in the basement, in the trunk of a car, under the bed, in the linen closet, stuck in the pages of the family bible.

We need to get more creative!
E writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 6:24 PM
How it works in Minnesota
I'm concerned too about Coleman's steadily eroding lead in the "official" vote count here in Minnesota, but I don't think it's because they found "222 votes in a box somewhere in the basement of the state house." The explanation is simple.

The votes are tallied by an optical scanning device here. Voters mark their choice of candidate by filling in an oval - much like an SAT or ACT standardized test. The top of the ballot has clear instructions about how ovals must be completely filled in so that they can register on the optical scanning device which tallies votes. Dead easy.

What's happening now is that election judges are visually checking ballots to see if there is a "clear intent" of a candidate, in spite of the ballot being incorrectly marked. This might show up as an oval filled in, then crossed out and another filled in...or an oval circled instead of filled in. Mind you, these are ballots which ordinarily would not be counted because they are incorrectly marked. Now that the race is so close, suddenly they are "valid."

That's what worries me.
E writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 6:25 PM
How it works in Minnesota
I'm concerned too about Coleman's steadily eroding lead in the "official" vote count here in Minnesota, but I don't think it's because they found "222 votes in a box somewhere in the basement of the state house." The explanation is simple.

The votes are tallied by an optical scanning device here. Voters mark their choice of candidate by filling in an oval - much like an SAT or ACT standardized test. The top of the ballot has clear instructions about how ovals must be completely filled in so that they can register on the optical scanning device which tallies votes. Dead easy.

What's happening now is that election judges are visually checking ballots to see if there is a "clear intent" of a candidate, in spite of the ballot being incorrectly marked. This might show up as an oval filled in, then crossed out and another filled in...or an oval circled instead of filled in. Mind you, these are ballots which ordinarily would not be counted because they are incorrectly marked. Now that the race is so close, suddenly they are "valid."

That's what worries me.
JimPVA writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 6:29 PM
JTB IN TX
'J'. Let's not say we, since we would have fought the lefties tooth and nail. Let's say them as in the Rockefeller/Neo-Cons. They are the big wig country club types who never get their hands dirty, that's what the hired help is for. They are moderates and there isn't any fight in moderate - by definition.
Joe writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 6:32 PM
There is no friggin way
every vote breaks for Franken. It is a statistical impossibility.

This stinks worse than old Lutefisk.
Joe writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 6:34 PM
Lutefisk, for those who do not know

Lutefisk (on the upper left side of the plate) as served in a Norwegian restaurant, with potatoes, mashed peas, and bacon.Lutefisk (lutfisk) (pronounced [l??t?f?sk] in Southern Norway, [l??tf?sk] in Central and Northern Norway, Sweden and the Swedish-speaking areas in Finland (lipeäkala in Finnish)) is a traditional dish of the Nordic countries made from stockfish (air-dried whitefish) or dried/salted whitefish (klippfisk) and soda lye (lut). Its name literally means "lye fish", because it is made with caustic soda or potash lye.


And rank rotten Lutefisk might as well be violets and springtime compared to the vile stank of Al Franken's soul.
Dread writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 6:45 PM
Lutefisk
is an unholy abomination risen from blackest pits of hell, bearing the fetid stench of a million damned souls.

I didn't care for it.
Sarah writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 7:09 PM
Wouldn't have been close
...if Coleman was a true conservative and not a RINO. Other conservatives need to learn from Norm. In a race between a Democrat and a Democrat-Lite a Democrat will always win.
foxmustang writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 8:46 PM
Sarah and Ginger.......
are VERY angry............
(prop 8 passed in Calif.).....
(don't ask....don't tell).....
BTW......using the Huffin'and Puffin' Post as a "source"??????
BEYOND LAUGHABLE!!!!!
Dave M writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 8:54 PM
Big Deal
So Norm Coleman is going to lose because votes appear out of nowhere.

Aside from the fact that there is nothing new about this, Coleman an is no loss. Any Republican that can't hold his own against Al Franken DESERVES TO LOSE!!!!

Its not as if Coleman is any great loss.
cottoneyed writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 9:14 PM
DAH, ya' think..............
Not only is this thing being stolen, it has already been stolen. There is another piece of leftist shyte in the Senate, get use ta'it, it'za' done deal, believe thou that!! Pat, surely your question was rhetorical, was it not! Republicans will never learn, but Conservatives may. The wimps must be jettisoned though, for it to happen. Until they learn that looking good losing is far worse than looking bad winning, then the will continue to have it handed to them by the scumbag left.
cottoneyed writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 9:25 PM
Someone on this blog has the nerve
to use the "Huff and Puff" as a source. Whats next, William Ayers, as a source for the misuse of TNT. Ginger, you really have it all together, don't you.
cottoneyed writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 9:36 PM
Sarah,
you are right on, Conservatives running as true to life Conservatives, always win, always. No holds barred, unashamed, unflinching, and unapologetic Conservatism wins and wins big every single, solitary time it is tried. The left is successful in convincing "Conservatives" that it must be watered down, to win. "Government is NEVER the solution, it is THE problem". When that is the clarion call, then that is the winning call.
Julie writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 10:54 PM
jtb in texas, it's NOT too late
Liberals may control the educational system, but they do not control our children, or at least not their ability to think.

I will never forget the day that my daughter came home from middle school, complaining that her vegetarian teacher had told the class how bad it is to eat meat. She said to me, "Mom, I really wanted to ask her why God made cows if we aren't supposed to eat them." A year later, my son talked about watching Al Gore's movie in school. He felt it was unfair for the school to push Gore's views.

That was a couple of years ago. Now both my kids are in high school, and will be of voting age by 2012. Neither my son nor daughter will reach that point being ignorant of the facts, unlike so many kids who have no facts at all, just a smattering of talking points.

I'm not saying this just to brag on my kids. I truly think there are a lot of savvy young folks out there. During this election, I saw several potential rising stars on Palestra.net, and Paul Ibrahim's blog is astounding.

Bob Munck writes: Monday, November, 10, 2008 11:37 PM
E 6:24 PM
"What's happening now is that election judges are visually checking ballots to see if there is a "clear intent" of a candidate, in spite of the ballot being incorrectly marked."

I don't believe that the visual inspection for voter intent starts until the recount. Corrections now are of clerical errors in getting the information from the scanners to the state election board, such as an erroneous transcription of "124" as "24."

If there are errors in these corrections or further errors that go undetected, they will be eliminated by the recount, in which each ballot is inspected by a team of three -- one representative from each campaign and one election official. All three have to agree to count a ballot, and the totals are also generated, summed, and transcribed by 3-person teams with that same structure. Having a Coleman and a Franken representative have to agree to every single step makes cheating pretty much impossible.

Note that the "intent of the voter" criterion is very different from the way scanners read ballots. That's why recounts are mandated by law for close finishes; a spot of dirt on a lens should not be able to sway an election.
foxmustang writes: Tuesday, November, 11, 2008 12:52 AM
Bob Munck......
your theory on why "cheating will be pretty much impossible" in the recount just doesn't hold water......
Of course all 3 get to inspect the ballots.......
LONG AFTER these ballots were all "found" by Dem loyalists in their cars???, under a table????, in ACORN HQ, etc.....
Nothin' like "fixin' the match", is there????

BTW.....that high-ranking black woman in the Ohio state govt that initiated the improper and unethical investigation and privacy violation of Joe the Plumber, has been suspended from her job......
State of Ohio Attorney General:......
Good for you!!!!
Fire that bee-otch!!!!
SheerFaith writes: Tuesday, November, 11, 2008 9:28 AM
Keep it pure
Both this race and the one in Georgia should be carefully scrutinized. President-elect Obama ought to weigh in with a statesman-like voice, too. Unfortunately ,we have too many political-machine illuminati who could do damage to our system.
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