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Friday, November 06, 2009
Guests Battle! Soldier To Dr. Phil: Quit The "Psychobabble" & Deal With The Islamic Factor at Ft. Hood
Posted by: Greg Hengler at 1:17 AM
Like this former JAG officer, I was thinking the same thing. He should have whined that CNN was not "fair and balanced" due to the people who agreed with him. When acts of terror and evil done in the name of Islam are described as "stress" and the result of teasing, something is wrong. 



Here's our Dear Leader giving a "shout out" before discussing the Ft. Hood massacre:



Here's the Ft. Hood Press Conference with Lt. Gen. Robert Cone. Murder is alive and stable!



Shep Smith interviews Hasan’s cousin



Shep interview with Ret. Col. Terry Lee who Worked with Fort Hood Killer



Finally, Ft. Hood murderer exclaimed ‘Allah Akbar’ as he opened fire

Video Courtesy of KSL.com



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NOTW writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 1:55 AM
Greg
Careful about that theory. This wasnt some big conspiracy. It was a conflicted man. Getting sent to fight your own heritage should never happen. Thats common sense and respect.

No condoning what happened. It was tragic madness. His (military) brothers should have stopped him long before. From the stories I have heard, they knew he was in bad place.
arch writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:09 AM
Curmudgeon
That is right! This sick man shouldn't have ever been granted access to our military. Those who granted him access are responsible for the deaths and wounding of our warriors. Political correctness and diversity run amock! Get these cavemen out of our nation for security reasons. Those who are responsible for this man being in our military are libel to be sued by those families that suffered as a result of their decisions to have this sub human in our military!

Wise up United States!! Before a nuke lays waste to our people!!
arch writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:32 AM
Let us hear your excuses. Libs
One question for you muslim loving libs.
Would this have happened if all muslims were deported from our nation?
Come on libs let us hear your excuses now!
Marty writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 4:01 AM
The shooter is a Muslim
So are to believe that a Muslim, a doctor was upset about going to war and killing his fellow Muslims so instead he shot and killed Christians and Jews?

Remember the two soldiers that were gunned down by a Muslim in front of a recruting office? Their deaths didn't garner much press because Dr. George Tiller "the baby killer" was shot and killed in church on the same day.

If Dr. Hasan was terrified about going to war he could have killed himself but didn't do that.





Chuck writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 4:55 AM
What's wrong with this picture?
How many symptoms of a dying culture can you identify in the Larry King Live interview?

Val writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 5:07 AM
ooops
seems the local right wing extremists are getting their stupid and reprehensible posts deleted again.

Come on Hengler, you're just fanning the flames with this kind of nonsense without even having a clear picture.

OncealwaysaMarine writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 5:20 AM
NOTW writes:
Friday, November, 06, 2009 1:55 AM
Greg
Careful about that theory. This wasnt some big conspiracy. It was a conflicted man. Getting sent to fight your own heritage should never happen. Thats common sense and respect.

No condoning what happened. It was tragic madness. His (military) brothers should have stopped him long before. From the stories I have heard, they knew he was in bad place."
_______________________________________________

What's "tragic" is the fact that even after the military and intelligence knew this guy was having all these psychological conflictions about being a Muslim on the one hand, and an Army officer for the U.S. on the other- they took no action to ameliorate the situation before it came to something like this.

This is a sign of more to come. Political correctness run amok.

I'm more inclined to believe this was just another Libtard social engineering "diversity" program: "Hey look, we got Muslims in our military! See...we love everybody. We're even going to have openly gay soldiers as soon as Obama and Pelosi get around to shoving that down the sheeple's throats!"

"Gotta have "diversity" dont 'cha know!"

"Yea General, but the guy said...."

"Stand down soldier. I got orders all the way from the top and this is how it's gotta' be handled...Hearts and minds...diversity with a capital D!"

...and that stands for Death.

My question is: How many more of these "Majors" do we have in our Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines?

This one had access to pistols. How may have access to tanks....or F-16s?

Hey...but we gotta' have that diversity! Wouldn't want the enemy to feel we they're not Americans too!

...even if they do want to kill us.
OncealwaysaMarine writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 5:26 AM
NOTW..
Oh...but don't worry. We got a good president now. We got Obama. He'll keep us safe.
Corndog writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 5:47 AM
Janet Nacraplitano
has demanded more funding to root out right wing terrorists, the real threat to our country.



Too bad the scumbag survived. Eric Holder will probably let him walk.
Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 6:24 AM
Archtard
Let us hear your excuses. Libs
One question for you muslim loving libs.
Would this have happened if all muslims were deported from our nation?
Come on libs let us hear your excuses now!

Me- Well, I think we need to find out what this guys motives were... I would think that the fact that he was seeking to resign his commission and the Army was insisting on sending him to Iraq anyway is kind of telling.

But I'm wondering if Neo and Other Eugene are going to denounce you for being a nazi for that statement...
Barbara writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 6:24 AM
Allah loves this Murderer!!!!
He became a jihadist and that's it. He killed 13 fellow soldiers and others by shooting them close up. He had Allah written in Arabic on his door. That heinous act he committed in cold blood, stems from hate and from his Islamic beliefs, plain and simple. Islamists cannot be trusted. I go on a blog where a soldier in Iraq wrote 2 days ago, that he was almost killed by mortar attacks that struck within his base. The next day one of the iraqi translators didn't show up. I wonder why!!!

These are the kind of despicable people like Major Hasan. He took advantage of the free education in the army to get his doctor's degree. It was free--- all those years of training. But you see, his reported proselytizing of other soldiers to join Islam was not well tolerated. His criticisms of the military and his apparent rejoicing over the Little Rock killing of Sgt. Long was recalled by retired Colonel Lee.

CAIR and the Psychobabblers are spinning and spinning this to persuade people that this was PTSD, but the traitor never served in Iraq. He served alright, he served Allah in the "religion of peace"---- Islam-- What a bunch of crap!!

Spin Spin Spin, as fast as you can, You cannot protect this Muslim caveman.
Dennis writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 8:16 AM
Doctor Phil
says soldier shouldn't speculate, all the while speculating himself. He is Islamic. CNN once again not covering the news but covering up the news. PTSD now responsible for man never in combat or in the war zone?
Dennis writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 8:21 AM
I also like the soldier
telling the JAG officer that he doesn't know what he's talking about because he's an officer in JAG and doesn't fight, then turns around and says the Islamic guy who is an officer in the medical field and doesn't fight has PTSD. What does he know?
clarityseeker writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 8:22 AM
"Doctor Joe Medicine Pro is around..."
"Yeah....I'd like to give a 'SHOUT OUT' to that congressional Medal of Honor winner..."




Wow....what a way to begin a press conference on a tragedy that befalls dozens of Americans killed and injured.

This president is clueless.
killer writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 8:30 AM
Glenn Beck
Why in the world did Glenn Beck, not see this event coming? I guess, we all have our limits. Many on this Blog, are happy to leap to conclusions. The benefit of "Facts", is nor needed by these "Fools". Everything is Black or White, in that they refuse to think. I know, "Thinking" is somewhat painful, for those who follow Mr. Beck! But try! Then again, he may have a thought you can use. S T U P I D I T Y!
Speedicut writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 8:36 AM
I just wanna give a shout out
President Obama is an embarrassment. My wife and I thought that he didn't know there was a shooting for the first few minutes of his "address" to the horror. My wife said, "Boy, somebody on his staff is going to get fired - they didn't even tell him about the shootings." Obama gave his shout out, pointed his politician's finger at a guy who was probably embarrassed at the impropriety of Obama's demeanor. So after a few minutes, Obama wipes the campaign half smile from his face when he realizes "Oh, yeah. Gotta talk about this shooting." He is a tone deaf jerk whom I like less and less the more I see the real Obama. He truly acts like he doesn't care about soldiers at all.
Corndog writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 8:48 AM
Clarityseeker
Sorry but I need to correct the spelling error in your post.

From "This president is clueless."


The last word should be spelled "classless".
Lynn writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 8:57 AM
NOTW
NOTW writes "Getting sent to fight your own heritage should never happen. Thats common sense and respect."

Thank God you weren't making the decisions during WWII. How many US soldiers would have been sent to fight in Europe based on your criteria? Very few.
My father, my uncles and most of the soldiers who fought came from European nations with the same cultural and religious background of those they were fighting.

Or have things changed that much in 60 odd years? Is your criteria only if you are first generation removed from that heritage, or second generation or third? What is the correct criteria? Common sense is that Major Hasan is an American who volunteered to fight for his country when he enlisted. If he was so conflicted he should have put the gun in his own mouth and pulled the trigger not taken the lives of innocents!
Speedicut writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 9:04 AM
killer
nice name, dooche. Are you blind? So, Obama processes his "grief" by gladhanding and politicking? You are a fool. My point is that even Bill Clinton knew when to act Presidential but Obama the Self-Involved has few clues how to do so. He's not community organizing now in some neighborhood YMCA.

He couldn't take care of saying hello until later? He couldn't have his aides do it privately? I'm sure the crowd would understand.

You're a prime example of the feminization of America.
MaineConservative writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 9:08 AM
killer
I believe Glenn is still recovering from an appendectomy, and was nowhere near Ft Hood, so I'm pretty sure he didn't do this.
I do think it is important that we wait to pass full judgment until we have a better understanding of this incident. However, the facts that we know are that he is a Muslim, and I don’t think it is irresponsible to state that fact. Whether it was an act of terror or whether it was a mental crazy person snapping will be debated over the coming weeks, but the fact that he is a Muslim is as relevant in the speculation going on as the fact that he was a major, or that he was a psychologist (or psychiatrist?). These are all facts that we know. We’re just too afraid and too PC oriented to include his religious affiliation to the discussion.

If it had been a born again Christian, do you suppose that information would have been off limits to the discussion?
Tom Ketchum  writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 9:29 AM
axinine
says \
Me- Well, I think we need to find out what this guys motives were... I would think that the fact that he was seeking to resign his commission and the Army was insisting on sending him to Iraq anyway is kind of telling.

He shouted allah akbar before opening fire , the fact that axinine tries to shift the blame to the military shows his lefty blame the victom mentality .
Corndog writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 9:35 AM
Killer
Wake up and smell the coffee. YOUR president is an embarassment PERIOD.

Speedicut is right. At least clinton knew how to ACT presidential, well at least when he knew he was on camera, (recall the video of him yuking it up at the funeral until he saw the camera).

How about we declare a jihad on liberalism? You moonbats don't seem to have any problems with that being declared on the United States.
Tom Ketchum  writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 9:36 AM
killer
i think beck did see this happening along with a lot of us . this is religous war at least for the muslims and we had better be very careful who we let into the military and police ect...
not all muslims are at war with us and most would rather live in peace . but we need to start profiling behavior a bit closer and particulary among muslims in the military. the signs were there .
Tom Ketchum  writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 9:38 AM
corndog
I think obama has trumped GW's my pet goat moment that seemed to be such a monumental misstep to the libs . damn that teleprompter
Big Sky Cowboy writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 10:12 AM
Shout Out
Yes he has his priorities in order, this idiot is not only a pizzz poor example of a president he is even more of a pizzz poor example of an intelligent caring human being.
clarityseeker writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 10:14 AM
Clay, Lefties are still talking about...
The Pet Goat.

There was, continues to be, so much blather about the president reading, The Pet Goat, to a class of elementary sudents, it is laughable that Legacy media does not even hint at, "The Shout Out" as a significantly improper way to start a press conference regarding a massive shooting on one of our military bases.

What a Moron, this wannabe leader has really proven.
Seadog writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 10:14 AM
speedicut
Excellent job of stepping on killer, who doesn't have a clue. He, as a liberal, will try any excuse for this goon who killed so many soldiers. (Soldiers aren't valuable in the mind of liberals.)

I, too, watched obama yesterday and kept waiting for him to say something about the killings. I was beginning to think he did not know of them.
Then, what did he do? Got his touchy-feely stuff out to the Indians THEN mentioned the killing of men of whom he is SUPPOSED to be commander-in-chief. Good grief, Charlie Brown.

Obama is disgusting!

And another thing . . . There have been several news articles last week about morale taking serious hits in Afghanistan. Wait until the soldiers see obama's latest concern for their welfare.
Nee writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 10:16 AM
Political Correctness
Colonel Tom Lee reported that he had heard Hasan say that Muslims fighting Muslims wasn't right. He was a Muslim. They heard him say things that showed he was standing with his Muslim bothers and not the United States Army. Colonel Lee reported this to superiors who did nothing. And if the policy states that you are not to confront people because of faith and freedom of speech, then the effing policy should be changed. 44 people are dead or wounded for the sake of political correctness.

This is treason by Hasan. It will be dealt with under the United States Code of Military Justice(UCMJ). It was indeed about religion and nothing else. He betrayed every code of honor and ethics that an officer has.

And before the sympathizers go off about how he was taunted and teased...Big effing deal. He could have resigned his commission and then been forced to pay back the money the military spent on his education. My guess is that he was spoiled by his status, liked the paycheck, but in the end took the most cowardly action of all instead of owning his mistake and shot and killed his comrades.

Are you kidding me? He counseled soldiers with PTSD...they Phucking spilled their guts to a man who murdered their comrades. This is a tragedy of even larger scope than we can imagine. This basurd should fry, literally. I have nothing nice to say, and the only words...To the chair, traitor.
Corndog writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 10:36 AM
Sorry to disagree Nee

"This basurd should fry, literally....To the chair, traitor."


The chair is too good for him. Since he's so enamoured with islam, why don't we follow their ways by burying him in the sand and stoning him to death (provided Eric Holder doesn't let him off the hook.)

I'm sure we wouldn't have any problem finding volunteers to be part of the 'stoning' line.
Uber Dave writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 10:43 AM
And how many...
... liberals here have made the same comment equating angry Christians to islamofascist savages? So what's the score over the past quater century or so, about 10,000 islamocrazies to 2 or 3 abortion clinic bomber/doctor killers? Boy our seething hatred must be just, like impossible to control and stuff.
NeoConScum writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 10:52 AM
Some Truly Righteous & Justified Outrage
expressed on this thread. Arch, Bud, I'd have NO objection to deporting verified Radical Islamists whenever they're identified or, if called for, lock'um up. But, regular Muslims. Nope.

Nee's eloquence for the LIES of Political Correctness is pluperfect spot-on. The PC Chickens are coming home to roost(Thanks, Rev.Wright!)and it would amaze me if this bloodbath by a Muslim makes even a tiny ding in the deep structural-framework of dishonesty, deceit and LIES which are the Basic Tenants of PC. The perpetuation of this wholly destructive Crap is simply beyond Loathsome.
Eugene writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 11:15 AM
What has to happen...
For a Muslim to be tossed from the military for expressing objection to the war on terror?

Seriously?

Can you imagine the reaction of the left had he been removed because his superior's and peer's became suspicious, without concrete evidence, that he was a muslim extremist?

The ACLU attorney's would have fallen all over themselves trying to represent this terrorist against the US military. Not to mention groups like CAIR.


Care to disagree you champions of diversity?

Could his postings and comments been declared free speech in a court of law (think wise Latina here) thereby rendering good soldiers doing their jobs by removing him as anti muslim and forcing them to face the consequences?

Could they have been prosecuted themselves for 'hate' against a practitioner of the 'religion of peace'?

Care to disagree that members of the politically correct lunacy has blood on their hands today?

And to you care to disagree that this was jihadist terror attack that could have been prevented if not for the pc policy's of the left?

JPK writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 11:15 AM
NOTW
Perhaps German-Americans, Italian-Americans, or Japanese-Americans should never have been ordered to Europe or the Pacific. You obviously have no idea about citizenship, or the military.

And what do you mean by heritage? What in Iraq required this man to "fight" against his heritage? He's a shrink, and besides that he is an American. You libs, as usual, want it both ways. You scream racial "racial profiling!" anytime someone reminds Americans about the heritage of Muslims. But, the minute it is convienent, you people demand we make up allowances for Muslims because of thier religion. You can't have it both ways.
Brad writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 11:51 AM
CONSPIRACY?
First they say the radical Muslim shooter is dead and his two accomplices are in custody. Then, after speaking with the President, the commanding base general says the shooter is alive and acted alone.

Anyone else smell a rat? How deep do ties to radical Islam go in our military? I think a full independent investigation is in order.
Seadog writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 12:00 PM
It is now being reported
that Doctor Joe Medicine was not awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor as obama said during his "shout out." He won the Medal of Freedom.

Doubt that obama knows the difference.

Poor, woeful, wretched obama is totally at sea without his sidekick, Mister Teleprompter.
paddy o'furniture writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 12:04 PM
We are all at a big picnic.....
The ants are all around us.....they are crawling on us....they are on our food.....they are biting us.....they would devour us if they could....

....and we are not allowed to mention the ants.

Makes sense to me......
Exeye writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 12:19 PM
Murder cult
That's what Islam is. Allah allows a Muslim to lie in order to promote his religion? Allah allows wholesale murder, as long as you shout 'Allah Akhbar?" And, let me short circuit you ignorati ready to scream about Amalekites and other ancient peoples who openly declared war against the people of Israel and Jehovah- uh, that was 5000 years ago. There were slightly different standards then. Apparently, those 5000 year old standards are alive and well and living in the hearts of the murder cultists, the Thugees, worshippers of Kali that is the ENTIRE Islamic nation. I spit on your Koran and wipe my private parts with it. Now, come after me, so you can see how a Christian warrior deals with you.

And you spineless cretins crying about Afghanistan and Iraq- anything getting through your brick thick heads yet?

So, he was trying to resign his commission, huh? Funny, his cousin said exactly the opposite, that he wanted to stay. Oh, but apparentley on his own terms because, you know, the military? That's like working for IBM.
paddy o'furniture writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 12:26 PM
The shooter....
....was passing out copies of the koran yesterday morning. Blog posts in his name hail suicide bombers as heros....just like soldiers who fall on grenades.....
......and nobody could stop him cuz it just wouldn't be pc.
Political Correctness costs American lives......and we STILL will do nothing about it.
Lonny writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 12:46 PM
McVeigh killed a lot more
Rudolph. Koresh. Jim Jones. Hitler. Stalin. Hasan.

All unbalanced individuals. Is Christianity the cause of McVeigh and Rudolph? Nutty stuff the cause of Koresh and Jones? Christianity on steroids with Hitler (the German people were compliant and christian)? Totalitarianism with Stalin? KKK?
Speedicut writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 12:49 PM
rationalization is the lifeblood
of liberalism. Not all Muslems are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslem. why is that, Lonny?
Lonny writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 1:05 PM
total lie, Speedicut
Those who kill abortion doctors are terrorists, and christians. How about McVeigh and Rudolph, christians and terrorists.

So, cut the nonsense. Not all terrorists are muslim at all. Mexican gangs terrorize parts of our cities, so do asian gangs and KKK. Are they muslims too? You are all bigots and fools.

Why don't we just open internment camps for muslims and let them prove they are not terrorists? Won't that be just great, after all, it worked so well in WW2.
SJA writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 1:16 PM
Lonny
Keep fawning over your ruler Lonny. Obviously living in the real world is just too hard for you.
Lonny writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 1:26 PM
who is fawning?
Does it really bother you to admit that those who murder abortion doctors are terrorists, and Christians (nominally, at least, I doubt Jesus would want anyone to take the law into their own hands)? The Aryan brotherhood? Terrorists and Christians. Murderers of Matthew Shepard, terrorists and Christians.

And no answer to my question...internment camps for these muslims you seem to think are out there waiting to terrorize us all? Let them show us they are real Americans and we'll let them out? How about having a military that actually pays attention to those who are having mental issues? Do you realize how many troops returning from Iraq and other places after multiple deployments have PTSD and commit suicide? Do you care? Or is this all about making political points against 'muslims' or Obama? That's what it seems to be. We don't even know what actually happened with this person, whether he will be found not guilty by reason of insanity. Wouldn't that just bust your chops, him being put in an insane asylum for the rest of his life like Andrea Yeager (another Christian terrorist) instead of getting the death penalty?

paddy o'furniture writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 1:29 PM
Seppy is gone....
....and lonny is back. Hmmmm

I remember lonny giving a very dramatic farewell speech and swearing it would never return as it was just too smart for us Townhall types.....

Then kaboom showed up sounding just like lonny.....them septic showed up sounding just like kaboom.....

The three of them together aren't worth a bag of spit.
Speedicut writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 1:33 PM
rationalization is the lifeblood of
liberalism.

Okay, I'll make it simple, Lonny. Who is the biggest threat to Western Civilization?
paddy o'furniture writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 1:36 PM
lonny is a "lawyer".....
....living in Brentwood; kaboom is married to a lawyer living in Brentwood; seppy lives in West L.A. (read Brentwood) and has a son who thinks he's a daughter.
It must be hard to keep up with all the lies it tells on these threads, but it hasn't enough shame to go away in utter humility...
Seadog writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 1:41 PM
Paddy
". . .seppy lives in West L.A. (read Brentwood) and has a son who thinks he's a daughter."

Thanks for a great laugh, Paddy. I really need that.
SJA writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 1:45 PM
Lonny
Recently a man who was a pro lifer was murdered, you forgot to mention that. Shot while he sat with his sign in hand. Oh and then there was the recruiters murdered by another Muslim, you forgot that one to.

Muslims are taught from the time they are children that killing those who do not follow the Muslim religion is acceptable. In all my many years as a youth attending Sunday school I was never once told that killing was acceptable. I was never once told that I had to make all follow my beliefs. In fact the only religion that does preach that is the Muslim religion.

Your attempt to spin this is not working.
western bondbeam writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 1:45 PM
I think Dr Phil
was just teed off because the JAG used the term psychobabble.

western bondbeam writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 1:53 PM
Young Afghan boys have a story to tell.
Recently in Afghanistan, the military raided and captured a Taliban base camp. There were many children there. As US Military videotaped some of the children (mostly boys) after capturing the base, it was noted that the children were extremely joyous.

A journalist asked his military escort if all the children they see are this happy after a foreign military presence comes into their homes?

The escort replied " They are always happy, but not THIS happy. You see, this was a suicide bomber camp. All of these children were being trained as suicide bombers."

Paul writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 1:59 PM
Paddy
You only have to read the comment at 12:46 and then go back and read last night's threads and comments from the septic one to know they are the same person. The same idiot comments about how many McVeigh killed, the same moronic insistence that Hitler was a christian etc etc.

This fool is so dishonest and has no clue that the rest of us see the same writing styles, the same questionable assertions, the same lies, the same attacks on the military and those of faith and the same pro-gay agenda.

The latest funny bit is the continual need to remind us that it is a 63 year old male (although it was only 62 a few days ago...could have had a birthday I guess but more likely "forgot" what the latest lie was).

It's pretty pathetic that a "63 year old male" and alleged lawyer feels the need to behave this way.
SJA writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 1:59 PM
Seadog
Lonny/Septic/Kaboom commenting on this tragedy that affected our military men and women is really a disgrace. This person's son is quite safe as you rarely suffer any bodily harm when you rip your Tutu.

For the rest of us yesterday was a horrible day. To think that our brave young men and women have to fear their fellow soldiers because we must be so politically correct we cannot dare address the truth. Well I guess we see how well that apology tour that Obama took worked.
cottoneyed writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:02 PM
Loony lonny, kaboom, and now sceptyczny,
All three one person? All three have told similar stories, with slightly different variations on the lie. Whether one, two, or three, they are supreme fools, who lie as easily as they breathe, involuntarily. They are mentally unstable, and if they have a family, an intervention is certainly called for. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. In this case, though, it has already been wasted. So, institutional care is now called for!
SJA writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:06 PM
Paul
Of course this pathetic soul Lonny/Kaboom/Septic is dishonest. She hates our flag, she hates our military and of course she hates this country. Of course we know from reading her posts why she just loves Obama. All the dishonest America haters think the same.
SJA writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:14 PM
cottoneyed
When Lonny/Kaboom/Spetic cites stories regarding their family members it is really hard to understand that someone could have such a vivid imagination. If even a small portion of what she posts was true I would say she has won the prize for the most mentally deranged family that has ever inhabited this earth.
paddy o'furniture writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:15 PM
One thing I would not.....
....want to be today is a U.S. soldier of Muslim descent.
Lonny writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:15 PM
SJA
I'm not spinning anything. As for the pro-life guy, that was not demonstrated to be done by any terrorist or pro choice person. If you can prove that, I'm sure you will. The other recruiter, yes, a solo act.

It is clear that many of you are angry and fearful. That is understandable. What is less clear is what you think should be done about it? Internment camps? Deport all muslims, even those who have been here for generations (as Hasan's family apparently was, he was born here 40 years ago)? What is your plan? How do you propose to stop what you think is systemic hatred by muslims against all others? Do they hate Christians only, or Jews too? Do they hate all but muslims?

That's why this is psychobabble stuff. No plans to deal with what you perceive as a problem. Why didn't we finish Afghanistan before we went into a country that had nothing to do with terrorism generally, and 9/11 specifically? How do you propose that our country resolve the situation? Perpetual war? I ask these questions seriously, because all I see posted here is hate and fear, no plans, no proposals.

I know a few muslims--most are as 'American' as any of you.
cottoneyed writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:16 PM
What is clear,
loony, kaboom, and sceptyczny, have lost their privileges to comment here at Th. No one should engage them in debate any longer. They should be ostracized, and ignored, with NO direct engagement. They are the lowest form of humanity.
Exeye writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:27 PM
McVeigh
Rudolph, Koresh, Jim Jones, Hitler and Stalin did not scream out "The God of the Christian Bible is Great!" before they slaughtered. McVeigh hated the government; Rudolph hated abortion; Koresh had his own Bible interpretations that bore no resemblance to the one the rest of us read (might as well have been a Scientologist); Jones was a Socialist, much like your President; Stalin....uh, his religion was Marxism. Only MUSLIMS murder in the specific name of their Allah, believing that Allah directs them to do so. Your comparisons are stupid. Worse, your comparisons are ignorant, nothing more than the bankrupt postmodernist crap of moral equivalence you obviously were taught in your crap public school.
Paul writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:34 PM
Lonny
"Do they hate Christians only, or Jews too? Do they hate all but muslims?"

Do you honestly expect anybody to enter into any form of serious debate with someone who would ask such an ignorant question?

I don't claim to have an instant solution to the problem of muslims in the military going postal. The difference between your position of total ignorance and those on the other side of the politica fence is that we actually acknowledge that a) there is a problem and b) it is traceable back to the muslim faith in multiple instances.

The other thing you attempt to gloss over is the increasing number of "solo acts". The recruiters, Jewish centers in Washington(?), shopping malls in Minnesota, the guy who drove his Jeep into a campus crowd, the bunch picked up planning to attack Fort Dix and probably several others I have forgotten. There are a whole bunch of these "solo acts" which you seem to be ignoring and what is more scary is you don't appear to have the faintest comprehension of the autonomous operational methods of Al Qeada sympathisers.

Frankly, you are so ill-informed and ignorant regarding these matters that discussing anything further with you is an exercise in utter futility.


SJA writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:35 PM
cottoneyed
I agree and will follow your lead in this. This disgusting person deserves to be ignored and ostracized. Pathological liars should not be engaged. Especially ones that show such hatred for this country.
clarityseeker writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:49 PM
cottoneyed, SJA---good point...
Please see Septic Tank's response to me at 5:34PM when I mention on this thread yesterday that the "shooter" had 3 names which were, "Islam" in derivation.

Septic says, "Muslims??? You nutcase."

http://townhall.com/blog/g/46c131a6-8e24-443a-af1b-afb5bfbc d5b5?comments=true#comments

MORE SIGNIFICANTLY---in that same thread, this pathetic piece of sh*t claims that more people have been killed at the hands of Christians than any other group. Total and utter Leftist nonsense which is taught in our schools today.


I am on board with your intentions to "shun" (an archaic and effective behavior) these despicable characters who spread LIES and only intend to create CHAOS.


Bravo...



>:^D

eddie too writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:50 PM
the omaha world herald's headline

on this tragedy included the words "suspect taunted" as though this either explains or excuses this jihadist attack on america.
western bondbeam writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:50 PM
I wonder how long
before somebody on the left suggests we outlaw guns at our military bases.


eddie too writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:54 PM
the shooter is just

another fruit of Islam and the Koran.

By their fruits you will know them.

Islam is a weapon of Satan.

This is evident when acts like these and the suicide murderers, and their treatment of women, and their concept that those who will not convert to their way of thinking deserve either death or enslavement.

Those are all the teachings of Satan.

Who out there believes the mullahs and imams will reject these teachings?
SJA writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 2:58 PM
clarityseeker
Yes time to ignore this anti American fool. Looked back at your posts from yesterday. Funny Kaboom could not even come back with one sensible post as usual.
Paul writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 3:07 PM
western bondbeam
"I wonder how long before somebody on the left suggests we outlaw guns at our military bases."

Oh, that's already happened - our resident ignoramus came out with this last night...

sceptyczny (aka Lonny, aka Kaboom) writes: Thursday, November, 05, 2009 7:55 PM
oh, and maybe if he didn't have access
to guns, no one would be dead.



clarityseeker writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 3:13 PM
SJA---I predict a moniker change...
Have not seen (thankfully so) this piece of floating sewage since then.
I predict that septic is undergoing another facelift of the moniker variety. It'll be another reincarnation of something flushed down the commode.
SJA writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 3:25 PM
clarityseeker
Yes I think this misfit to society uses the name Lonny as well but I suspect we will see a new moniker to replace the septic one very soon. Very easy to spot though the same trash always comes out.
Marty writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 4:23 PM
Where the Japanese fighting with us
or against us during WWII? Americans still get blamed for locking up the Japanese living in the USA on Dec. 7, 1941, but it was the right thing to do. We are at war so its not a good idea to allow Muslims to serve in the armed forces at this point in time.

Mark writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 4:26 PM
Dr Phil
My apologies if someone has already pointed this out, the good doctor in spewing his psychobabble non-sense states quite eloquently, "...you can't make sense out of non-sense."

Precisely Dr. Phil, that is your own self provided cue to shut your yap!
Dave writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 4:50 PM
That is one scary chick....
All I know is I just came down with PTSD after watching that Shoshanna lady..
Seadog writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 4:52 PM
SJA
"This person's son is quite safe as you rarely suffer any bodily harm when you rip your Tutu."

You and Paddy are going to ruin me before the day is finished.

Thanks for the laugh! I can almost visualize him tip-toeing through the tulips with a rip in his tutu.
Lonny writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 5:06 PM
Marty
why didn't they put all German-Americans and Italian Americans in camps, then?

Why do you make fun of gay people so much? You are afraid of muslims, gays, strong women, liberals, euros, just about anyone who isn't just like you. What a fearful bunch.
Mike writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 7:00 PM
It's The Jihad Stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's The Jihad Stupid!!!!!!!!!!!!
Careful with that axe, Eugene writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 7:13 PM
Clay Aiken
"He shouted allah akbar before opening fire , the fact that axinine tries to shift the blame to the military shows his lefty blame the victom mentality."

Me- No, I don't blame the victim. The victims were 13 soldiers who were caught in the crossfire, not the institution of the Army that probably knew this guy was a problem but kept him on duty, anyway.

Lonny writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 7:16 PM
so, should the approximately
10000 muslim US military people be expelled from the military? Put them in camps?
Lonny writes: Friday, November, 06, 2009 7:23 PM
Axe, you make a great point
we are so desperate for warm bodies to fight the "worldwide war on terror" that they didn't do anything to get rid of this guy. Their standards are quite low these days, and even with low standards, they are having trouble attracting soldiers, etc.

We need to reinstitute the draft, though that will assure that 95% of the draftees will claim to be gay or lesbian.
roy writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 10:25 AM
you guys are permanently stuck in stupid
"dr" phil and that woman (not miss lewinsky) have a severe case of anal cranial insertion......
Del writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 12:44 PM
Response to Loony...err, Loney
Go see my blog at http://deconstructingliberals.blogtownhall.com/
Lonny writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 2:42 PM
I'm still waiting for answers
internment camps or not? When do we decide who goes into the camps? Do abortion protestors go too, their own camps of course, when they kill abortion doctors?
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