Wednesday, January 30, 2008
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An Angry, Defensive McCain
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Posted by:
Hugh Hewitt at
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John McCain won over few if any conservatives tonight, and his display of bad temper and his rambling filibuster of his wrongful "timetables" attack on Romney from last weekend may even have lost him some moderates. In the spin room heads were shaking. McCain was at his worst in the second half of the debate, and those who watched had to ask themselves how this sort of performance would play against a youthful, upbeat Obama with a MSM ready not to protect McCain but tear into him as aging and confused --even obviously deceptive-- about his facts.
The first half of the debate was Romney's on points. Romney began by listing the series of assaults on conservative values championed by McCain including McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy, the McCain-Lieberman global warming regulatory monster, the opposition to exploration in ANWR and the votes against the Bush tax cuts. McCain's responses are the same we have heard again and again, and they do not wear well. Romney was assisted by the obvious downgrading by Anderson Cooper and Janet Hook of Mike Huckabee, and Huckabee's frustration at his demotion to Ron Paul status broke through in the second half of the debate, but only served to underscore that the real contest doesn't involve him. It is a McCain-Romney race, and anyone watching the debate knows that.
If they are Republicans, they also will almost certainly walk away disquieted by the prospect of a McCain nomination, both because of his ideas and even more so because he just didn't look electable tonight. Romney did. In fact McCain's best part of the day was when Rudy was talking about him, and it went down hill from there. McCain will get another assist from Arnold tomorrow or Friday, but it is hard to hide the fact that this would be a second Bob Dole campaign, with less energy and fewer conservative principles. Many, many Republicans have to be worried not just about losing the White House, but about a dispirited party and a down-ticket wipe-out. McCain supported the surge. That's true, and a very strong point. But is it enough to wage a nine-month campaign on?
Romney's third conscutive strong performance in a debate will almost certainly lead to a rise day-to-day over the next six days in key states, but whether he rises fast or far enough depends primarily on the Huckabee voters' recognition that continued allegiance to the Huck spells a McCain nomination and all that means for the next nine months.
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I don't think many Republicans agree with McCain about McCain-Feingold, commonsenseMike. I think that the real argument came over McCain's support of McCain-Kennedy--AKA the Bush immmigration reform bill.
I think that the Tancredo position on this is RINO. Basically, Tancredo wants the USA to turn into a place like in the opening scene of Casablanca with officials demanding to see our papers to make sure we pass muster with them and are allowed to be here.
The true conservative position is just the other way around. With true conservatives it is the officials who have to show their credentials, and prove who they are, not the citizenry. To true conservatives, the government is always under scrutiny by the people, Tancredo has it backwards.
He is just using the immigration issue in order to bolster the police state and to undermine the underpinnings of the 2nd and 4th amendments, which are there to assure the people remain an independent power. The people who support this kind of documentation are adopting a left-wing position. The true right-wingers are for economic and political freedom from government intrusion.
If I thought that more campaign finance reform was in the cards, I would be hard-pressed to support McCain. But I think that things like national identity cards, instant credentials checks, etc. are the current threat. We aren't exactly putting the mark of the beast on people's foreheads, but we are creating a system whereby every citizen's movements and finances can be tracked. And Tancredo is at the forefront of this.
True conservatives don't even like the intrusiveness of the Form 1040. What kind of RINO goes for this stuff? |
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You are Judged by The Friends You Keep.
I challenge any of the mainstream media to investigate this and see if this is true. We need to know for sure. (Colonel Ray)
Obama's link to Saddam Hussein exposed by London Times today, no wonder he was against the war! Today the Times of London discovered: "Mr Obama’s long-serving bagman Antoin “Tony” Rezko, a Syrian immigrant to the United States, has been linked to Nadhmi Auchi, the Iraqi-born billionaire who is one of Britain’s richest men. The relationship is a potential embarrassment for Mr Obama, who has made his opposition to the Iraq war a central plank of his campaign. Court papers describe Mr Rezko as a close friend of Mr Auchi. The Times has, however, discovered state documents in Illinois recording that Fintrade Services, a Panamanian company, lent money to Mr Obama’s fundraiser in May 2005. Fintrade’s directors include Ibtisam Auchi, the name of Mr Auchi’s wife."For you who do not know, Nadhmi Auchi is an Iraqi with deep ties to Saddam Hussein and made billions off him! Was also co-chair of the of the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University between 1996 and 2000 and is a wanted fugitive in France! The trail of the newly crowned Prince of Camelot is beginning to really become more open! No wonder Obama was against the war in Iraq and people complain about the Clinton's being involved in bad things, this is beyond bad!! See what not knowing a stump speecher without substance hides? Hope this is further investigated by American reporters!
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Hugh: The first radio host who takes this story national is going to be a hero.......you??
You are Judged by The Friends You Keep.
I challenge any of the mainstream media to investigate this and see if this is true. We need to know for sure. (Colonel Ray)
Obama's link to Saddam Hussein exposed by London Times today, no wonder he was against the war! Today the Times of London discovered: "Mr Obama’s long-serving bagman Antoin “Tony” Rezko, a Syrian immigrant to the United States, has been linked to Nadhmi Auchi, the Iraqi-born billionaire who is one of Britain’s richest men. The relationship is a potential embarrassment for Mr Obama, who has made his opposition to the Iraq war a central plank of his campaign. Court papers describe Mr Rezko as a close friend of Mr Auchi. The Times has, however, discovered state documents in Illinois recording that Fintrade Services, a Panamanian company, lent money to Mr Obama’s fundraiser in May 2005. Fintrade’s directors include Ibtisam Auchi, the name of Mr Auchi’s wife."For you who do not know, Nadhmi Auchi is an Iraqi with deep ties to Saddam Hussein and made billions off him! Was also co-chair of the of the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University between 1996 and 2000 and is a wanted fugitive in France! The trail of the newly crowned Prince of Camelot is beginning to really become more open! No wonder Obama was against the war in Iraq and people complain about the Clinton's being involved in bad things, this is beyond bad!! See what not knowing a stump speecher without substance hides? Hope this is further investigated by American reporters!
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I am going to post one issue at a time.
hopefully by my last post I will have convinced many not to
vote for McCain, or at least consider that you should be changing your party. Can you RINO's please explain to me how you agree with McCain-Fiengold. Please, I beg you to please read it. then post back and tell me on how you can support such a man that made this law. |
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After watching the implosing of both parties. I want George Washington or any off our founding fathers sensibility back. I liked Huckabee but he lost me with his smear on another faith. Our founding fathers are turning over in their graves over this political season. I have never been a John McCain supporter and never will be.The problem is a Hilary Clinton Presidency is not enough to incite me to pull the lever for John McCain. I usually find Ann Coulter to extreme but I agree with her about Hilary. Sean Hannity should not be a surprise both on television and radio he has expressed digust with the religion question & Mitt Romney. Honestly the candidate I would have been happy to support was Duncan Hunter. Super Tuesday will be split.Can anybody say brokered convention? |
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He did not serve because he was too young -at the tail end for Nam and was on his 2 year religious mission. His dad was not enthusiastic about the Nam war because he saw we were not in it to win it. His lack of being lockstep on it derailed George Romney (Mitt's dad) bid for the Whitehouse.
His dad made his money by working up through the ranks at AMC and without a college degree, then Governor of Michigan He then went on to be appointed HUD Secretary. Mitt went to public school -but a good one unlike the travesties we get for our high property tax bills nowadays. Mitt made his own fortune.
McCain made his money by living off the taxpayers and by marrying a wealthy beer distributor's daughter who is an heiress and looks trophy worthy even if a little Stepford wife-like.
Mitt's sons are all working successful guys that unless the draft becomes a mandate, have the right not to serve in the military. The people who are the most anti-war are also usually the types that have never done anything for others or served a purpose greater than themselves and would not go in the military either. Reminder, they are volunteers in the military that WANT to be there for the most part.
You guys that post here and put down Mitt could be serving right now too. You chose a different path as this is a free country.
McCain advocated the war. He needed to look qualified to run something and needed it to go better for HIS sake and political ambitions. He only agreed to give it a booster shot as did many DC insiders.
I never got a job from a poor person. I admire successful people like Romney not lifetime committee members like McCain who ego is bigger than his abilities. |
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In his own words: McCain’s radical Hispanic outreach director
By Michelle Malkin • January 27, 2008 10:01 PM
Digger’s Realm did a terrific job compiling this clip reel of open borders zealot/McCain Hispanic outreach director Juan Hernandez’s greatest hits. He considers Canada, the U.S., and Mexico “a bloc, not one nation.” He puts “Mexico first.” He doesn’t believe there are any criminals among the 12-20 million illegal aliens he thinks should be legalized. He’s been saying all of this for a long time.
The McCain campaign knew what it was getting. So should Republican voters!
http://michellemalkin.com
search Juan Hernandez to see video clips of his anti-America agenda that must be stopped |
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Are we going to let the good ol' boys GOP relics tell us who the nominee is before we even get to vote? The Dems & Old Republicans are scared of Romney shaking things up and exposing them for what they are...corrupt dinosaurs that don't care what the people say and want...they know best. They know what has to happen, they just won't do it.
Romney has the guts to get hard on immigration which will solve our budget, terrible and unsafe schools, bankrupted hospitals, shortages of jobs, assault on our language, denigration of our culture and faith, over crowded roads, inflated cost for housing etc. Get the prison population that consists of 35% illegals in our jails to pick the overpriced vegetables or higher migrant workers that go home at the season end. Allowing Illegals to stay is not worth the cost and transformation of our country.
Bush said he would close the border and he did not, he said he would fix immigration and SS too. I want action not talk. I want my country back and globalists like McCain and the old Bush Pack are the part of the reason we are in the mess. As for McCain and his HUGE ego and his lying DISHONORABLE CONDUCT..DON'T TRUST HIM. I always thought the heroes were people who solved problems and helped other people. What has he done after being a POW 30 years ago?
Tell the Old GOP to get out of the way and let some real patriots get the job done. Vote Tuesday for a gentleman, scholar, accomplished,"wicked smart", eloquent and very decent man..Governor Mitt Romney. |
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Ann Coulter Endorses Romney and calls McCain the real Flip-Flopper and Fake
STRAIGHT TALK' EXPRESS TAKES SCENIC ROUTE TO TRUTH http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=23 1
GOP TO EDWARDS: HOW MUCH FOR THAT CONCESSION SPEECH?January 30, 2008
http://www.anncoulter.com/
Elephant in the Room
http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/article.cgi?article=230
Following the debate, MSNBC's David Shuster noted McCain's response in a fact check, asserting, "John McCain was asked a question during the debte that included a quote about McCain talking about economics. And McCain denied the quote." After airing a video clip of the exchange, Shuster asserted: "Well, actually, NBC News got that quote from last month. John McCain was heard saying on December 17th in The Boston Globe and Time magazine, quote, 'The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should. I've got Greenspan's book.' " Following Shuster's fact check, Matthews himself acknowledged McCain's lack of "candor," asking Newsweek's Howard Fineman, "Howard, the "Straight Talk Express": Did it stall tonight? Was it derailed by his denial of a quote that's on the record?" In his response, Fineman asserted, "You can't pretend that you didn't say something you said. You just can't wish it away."...
RUSSERT: Senator McCain, you have said repeatedly, quote, "I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated." Is it a problem for your campaign that the economy is now the most important issue, one that, by your own acknowledgment, you are not well-versed on.
McCAIN: Actually, I don't know where you got that quote from. |
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Vote your principals, GIVE FRED DELAGATES IN THE CONVENTION, no need to waste the signs, keep them up as a symbol of principal. We now have a responsibility to choose again, as for me, I’m going to vote for Fred if his name is on the ballot.
Sticking to our guns and strength and standing by Fred now costs one vote. The campaign for the White House was about us, not Fred. The campaign for the White House was about who we chose to lead, not the available choices. Give Fred the delegates in the convention to symbolize our conviction to our principals, not for Fred, for us.
We can always join the Alamo, Fred is the only candidate that none of the empowered candidates want in the race. Our best choice in this race is still Fred, he has my respect for not denigrating the process into the “American Idol” format. Sanjaya Malakar is not my choice for president.
The right to choose cost some of our fellow citizens, countrymen and family the ultimate price. Our price for our right to choose based on our principals is one vote.
VOTE FOR FRED…
Dennis McIntire, “The Constituent”
http://www.dennisforlife.com
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I'm right there with ya! However, I've decided to go WAY left, where there is no middle. I'm voting Obama. If the country is to be trashed, and it will, I want a democrat to do it, and not a pretend republican.
McCain is a bitter old man who cheated on his wife for the 'trophy'. All you get is a man who only goes to the easy money. |
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C.mon Hugh, if your judgement weren't clouded by your own booksales and the desire to be a Jeanne Dixon type soothsayer with the "mormon in the whitehouse" drivel, you would see that McCain is right. He may have overstated it a bit, but after all, this is politics.
"[T]he president and Prime Minister al-Maliki have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about. But those shouldn’t be for public pronouncement. You don’t want the enemy to understand how long they have to wait in the weeds until you’re going to be gone. You want to have a series of things you want to see accomplished in terms of the strength of the Iraqi military and the Iraqi police, and the leadership of the Iraqi government."
While it isn't overtly democratic in an in your face withdrawal scenario, you have to admit its pretty weak and shows a predisposition to getting out.
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Fred Thompson has withdrawn from the race for president. Fred Thompson is still our choice. Fred Thompson, a young attorney working for the justice department, hand picked by Ronald Reagan, helped defend some of our choices to vote for “the Republican,” Richard Nixon. Fred Thompson, as a senior Republican diplomat, left us with a coherent interpretation of our conservative views. Fred Thompson gave us a conservative focus that allowed us to find a new interpretation of ourselves as Republicans. Fred crafted thoughts and opinions into simple effective coherent statements and published those, point by point on his website as a primer to assist in finding our way as a nation. Fred has set an example and laid the groundwork for the next generation Conservative.
Fred Thompson’s withdrawal from the race for president is not about your pain or your anger; we’ve all been there at one time or another. This is about us and our mutual decision to choose Fred Thompson, a committed conservative to lead. Fred owes us nothing. We don’t owe Fred. We do have a responsibility to ourselves to be responsible for our own decisions. We can’t blame someone else if we are not happy.
Fred Thompson is still on the ballot in many if not all states. Fred Thompson is still a viable choice for president. This is chess not checkers. A unified vote would give Fred the choice at the convention and would prevent second choices from looking more powerful than they deserve.
The right to choose cost some of our fellow citizens, countrymen and family the ultimate price. Our price for our right to choose based on our principals is one vote.
VOTE FOR FRED…
Dennis McIntire, “The Constituent”
http://www.dennisforlife.com
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God bless you,
You are indeed a nice gentleman. |
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Do you think that might help McCain in California and with people who love Ronald Reagan? |
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Weinkopf, Chris, Editorial Page Editor. 1/26/2008. "The case for Mike Huckabee"
http://www.dailybulletin.com/politics/ci_8085136
IN making the case for Mike Huckabee's campaign for the presidency, circumstances require that I start with a declaration: I am not now, nor have I ever been, an Evangelical Christian.
It's important to get that disclaimer out of the way, because Huckabee has regrettably been pigeonholed as the "Evangelical candidate" - a swell guy, but off-limits to anyone without a fish decal on the back of the family truckster.
And that's a shame, because Huckabee's appeal could - and, indeed, should - transcend religious or cultural affiliations.
Unlike most other Republicans past and present, this folksy, up-by-the-bootstraps former governor of a heavily Democratic state has a message capable of reaching far beyond the GOP faithful. It's one with a natural resonance for the middle class, for Latinos, for African-Americans, for believers of all kinds - indeed for anyone.
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[eli on January 30, 2008 10:43 PM]"If all you Huckabee people had any smarts you would put your vote to Romney if you want a true conservative in the white house, but most of them are anti-Mormon bigots so that is not going to happen."
I'm a Huckabee guy. Do you consider me a bigot?
[eli on January 30, 2008 11:13 PM]"If you don't have full support of your party you are not going to win a general election. You may skate by the primaries... but not in a general election"
What kind of level of Republican support does the serial liar Romney have?
[eli on January 30, 2008 10:50 PM]"No one wants--or reads-- your cut and paste URLs"
How do you know?
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http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/5c0fa965-84c0-4483-a7 55-8a505ea31c1e&comments=true#commentAnchor
Bruce writes: Friday, January, 11, 2008 12:32 PM
Synthesizer
Synthesizer keep it up.
You are really getting under Mitt folks skin because you deliver facts that they can't refute.
Their only responses are personnal attacks on either you or Huckabee or trying to wish you away.
Those of us that want to hear the full story appreciate your comments and excellent links.
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What was Romney's plan for victory in Iraq?
29 January 2007
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTU0NzEyZjIzMTI5Yz ZiYjgxMjY3MTM4YTIzMjY4NTA=
Here's my take: Put aside how rambling and unfocused it was. Maybe that can be chalked up to a bad night or fatigue. But to speak for 50 minutes or so and not to talk about the Iraq war before a conservative audience at a crucial moment in that war is bizarre and just wrong and almost offensive in my view. This doesn't seem like an oversight. He went out of his way to check off every conservative box-- except the one that is politically risky at the moment.
richard_223 writes: Wednesday, January, 30, 2008 10:34 PM
Timetables
Here's Mitt on youtube bringing up the timetable idea:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDKCDdevWnk
Somebody remind me of what Mitt's plan was for victory in Iraq. McCain deserves credit for the surge. What did Mitt do to help us win the war?
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Joe writes: Wednesday, January, 30, 2008 11:09 PM
Mitt "Eddie Haskell" Romney
Mitt's worst moment was not called out in the debate but it is coming. Mitt said that entitlements are the biggest issue facing us (fiscally) right now and we need to reduce them. Correctomundo!
But Mitt attacked John McCain in Florida two days ago for voting against expanding Medicare entitlements. Why? Mitt wanted to hurt McCain with retires (which Florida has a lot of).
It is a classic Romney move. Mitt is so upset that someone would misquote (as he claims McCain is doing to him on Iraq)--then he does it flat out in the debate right back.
It is too bad Mitt has these character flaws about stuff like this, because the sad part is he is talented guy. The truth is while Mitt did not flat out call for withdrawal, Mitt Romney was a weasel on Iraq. Mitt has been a weasel on a lot of issues. We can go on and on.
Mitt is an Eddie Haskell.
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McCain supports federal funding of embryonic stem cell research. If McCain believed human life begins at conception, how could he support experimenting on young human beings. If McCain believed human life begins at conception, how could he oppose a human life constitutional amendment.
McCain does support performing scientific experiments on young human beings. That is not pro-life and demonstrates that McCain either has not yet figured out when human life begins or he doesn't care if scientists kill innocent human beings in scientific experiments. Mengele ring any bells? Do a web search for Mengele. He, like John McCain, believed in performing scientific experiments on innocent human beings. Some of you may think I am being to hard on John McCain. But for me whether or not you supporting experimenting on innocent human beings is a huge issue and those who support such things are in league with the Mengeles of the world. |
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Huck withdraw and endorse Romney. Romney's campaign is imploding. If his 50 million dollars spent can't earn him the plurality in contested states, how does anyone imagine he could win in November. Both McCain and Huck's campaigns that have been run on shoelaces are proviing more fruitful than Romney's. If anything, Romney should salvage what he can, prove his conserative credentials and withdraw and endorse Huckabee. That will leave him with a future in the Republican Party. If he endorses Huckabee, it will be hard for anyone to contest his conservative credentials in the future. However, if he waits until after Super Tuesday to endorse Huck his endorsement as a sign of conservative principles will be lessened. Huckabee is the only hope of derailing John McCain. |
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the conservative choice for President. |
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I watched for all of 5-minutes. McCain was asked about the economy and mentioned his POWness 10 or 12 times. That chit ain't gonna work for the Real Race. It really becomes caricature. His scowling, snickering patronizing contempt for Mitt seethed out on camera. Classless and foolish. And, SMALL.
If the Dems happen to nominate Obama, Johnny is Toast--barring Osama bin Laden intervention. And, my guess is that if Bazama IS the nom, bin Laden & Zawahiri will behave real peaceable until the Dems have won, knowing they'll fold our offensive stance of 7-years like a cheap Dem suit.
McCain MIGHT have a fair chance against made Lady MacClinton IF Billy-Bubba continues to sabotage her and remind the country of Clinton Fatigue & CLINTON EXHAUSTION. However, they'll be manipulating Juan's volcanic temper and, by comparison, Hillary might look semi-sane to Americans. |
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[Knight7 on January 30, 2008 10:30 PM]"It is very disturbing for me to watch the number of Republican politicians that call themselves Reagan Republicans but are frauds. I was duped by Rudy Giuliani this election. I picked him as my second choice behind Romney."
In what ways were you duped by Rudy Giuliani?
"Arnold is a moderate Republican at best"
Schwarzenegger and Romney and McCain members of Republican Main Street Partnership
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=c950b53d-1270-42c0-970 f-5ef079071753%40s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com
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The Stupid Party
The RNC wants an amnesty candidate.
Don't vote for one.
Another amnesty will result in Democrat majorities for decades, or until they are supplanted by the La Raza Party, why doesn't the RNC know that? How stupid do you have to be to import voters for the opposition at the same time you alienate your own voters? Nominating any of the amnesty supporters is a losing proposition, we will not support them. If the GOP intends to surrender our sovereignty and abandon the rule of law, they will find in November 2008, that they still have their big money/cheap labor donors, but they do not have voters. GOP-RIP |
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As a Romney guy, we help our cause more by not calling names and insulting McCain supporters. I know it's tough, since they dump on us, but we have to make arguments. I just heard Medved complaining about this. If anyone is a master at insulting people it's him. He has no credibility on this cause he uses the same smart _ss attitude himself. Medved speaks well and is brilliant, but he can't help himself with the attitude, and he no longer has any influence on me because of his attitude of "I'm right because you're a moron" tone. |
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The sly side bar comment McCain made about Mitt having to lay off employees last night proved McCain first is smarmy and second that he is not conservative and has no idea of how a business is operated. I can't vote for him. I really hope he doesn't win the GOP nomination! |
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What considerations lead you to cease supporting Huckabee?
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Linder, John. 20 January 2008. "Huckabee presents the best choice for Reagan supporters"
http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/main.asp?Search=1&ArticleI D=10019&SectionID=17&SubSectionID=116&S=1
Huckabee for Communicator in Chief
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=6c43e6d4-839f-4c4b-adc 6-b34a0873cd25%40o6g2000hsd.googlegroups.com
Kristol, William. 7 January 2008. "President Mike Huckabee?"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/07/opinion/07kristol.html?_r =1&hp&oref=slogin
The best answer came, not surprisingly, from the
best Republican campaigner so far-- Mike
Huckabee.
Dreher, Rod. 10 January 2008. "Huckabee for President"
http://blog.beliefnet.com/crunchycon/2008/01/huckabee-for-p resident.html
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seansfm writes: Wednesday, January, 30, 2008 10:21 PM
An Angry, Defensive Romney
I thought they both looked lousy. I'm a McCain convert, but this makes me think twice about leaving Huck.
Huckabee, when he got a chance, looked and sounded great as usual. If I were still a Huck dude, tonight's debate would not make me switch for Romney (or McCain.)
McCain took the biggest risk on the Iraq issue, and thus gets the reward of my vote. Mitt went on TV dropping the "timetables" buzzword -- that much, at least, is true.
Mitt has been unable to overcome his pandering problem, always having to answer for recent, previously held positions he no longer holds.
Mitt is responsible for the negativity in this campaign. Unable to give people a single reason why they should support him, he wasted millions dishonestly sliming his rivals. Really, it's hard to feel sorry for the guy. Romney was asking for this.
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We have run out of time on the illegal alien inundation. We either stop it now or we lose our country. McCain won't do it. He thinks it's impossible to enforce our laws. I want someone who doesn't.
The GOP cedes their best issues by running McCain. He agrees with Hillary on Gore-Bull warming, gays, guns, and amnesty. I want someone who doesn't.
America is worth saving. Vote conservative.
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I agree that part of the conservative ideologue group are elite. I can hardly listen to Rush gush on about his cigars, his rubbing elbows with the famous, ya, ya, ya. Ingraham is kind of a mix. Humble beginnings, but Ivy league and above average IQ for sure. Your right that the Senator's support is MSM and moderate. What I've noticed, though, is that he has a huge list of supporters in the Senate, Pentagon, and now all of these governors lining up. That tells me establishment. I think the Senator has generations going back who were all very high ranking military. I was an enlistee. Officers were G__. That says elite. I guess "elite" is a relative term, and I frame it from where I am. Yes it would have been nice if Thompson and Giuliani hadn't imploded so early. |
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FOOT SOLDIER'S DNC'S TROJAN HORSE
"FOOT SOLDIER" McCain is the Trojan Horse of the DNC.
GO MITT ROMNEY! CONSERVATIVES DONT' SELL OUT. FIGHT FOR OUR PARTY - VOTE MITT ROMNEY!
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Or so the Mittbots would like us to believe. Honestly, I am convinced now more than ever that Romney supporters are the most immature group of people on the earth. It's been a non-stop whinefest since Mitt lost the other day, and there doesn't seem to be an end in sight. And if that's not enough, lets try to kneecap McCain in the process, real big of you guys. Let me set the record straight on a couple of things:
1. McCain is winning states with the MOST votes. The argument that "he's not winning with 50+% of the vote, so he sucks" is just a stupid argument. How can you spin it, then, that Mitt can't even beat a guy who gets just 35 or so percent of the vote? That sure makes your arguments for him look stupid.
2. McCain was, is, and will contine to be the most electable candidate we have on the GOP side. You can take that as either a testimony of his broad appeal, or the crappyness of the rest of the GOP candidates, I don't care. But it is truth, nonetheless, and I am happy as a conservative that voters are nominating our best shot for November. |
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The Republican Party under GWB seems intent on political suicide. Pandering to citizens of other countries illegally in our country while telling us we must be vigilantes if we object to illegal aliens ignoring our borders and laws. Mel Martinez is RNC Chairman to ensure an open borders candidate in '08. The cheap labor express will be kept running, regardless of the consequences, to party or country. GOP-RIP |
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Worse, because the Republican turnout for McCain will be abysmal you almost guarantee a Senate with more than 61 Democrats (that means a filibuster proof majority), and a Democrat House.
That means five liberal Supreme Court appointments, tax rates at levels you can hardly imagine, little or no pursuit of the war on terror (ala’ 92-2000), socialized medicine under Hillary care, open borders and amnesty for 20 million illegal aliens (mostly poor Democrat voters), government-funded abortion on demand, an assault weapons ban and others draconian gun-control measures, and the subordination of American sovereignty the whims and wishes of the rest of the world.
McCain's nomination essentially means the end of America.
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[Dan on January 30, 2008 10:28 PM]"McCain is not presidential.... supporting research on embryonic stem cells"
Mishra, Raja. 14 June 2002. "Romney endorses stem cell research, is silent on cloning" Boston Globe
http://www.mult-sclerosis.org/news/Jun2002/USRomneyEndorses StemCellResearch.html
Romney spoke at a Brandeis University-hosted
forum on biomedical research. He endorsed
embryonic stem cell research, saying the
controversial science might one day help treat his
wife's multiple sclerosis in addition to numerous
other degenerative diseases.
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Romney spoke extensively about his position on
stem cell research, which also involves embryo
destruction.
''I am in favor of stem cell research. I will work and
fight for stem cell research,'' he said, adding, ''I'd be
happy to talk to [President Bush] about this, though
I don't know if I could budge him an inch.''
Last summer, Bush set tight limits on taxpayer-
funded embryonic stem cell research, and the field
has since grown sluggishly.
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similarities between Romney & McCain
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=04d513a3-77c4-415f-a02 b-3294ad637f0f%40k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com
Huckabee vs. Romney
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /b8874f14563f4df0
Romney is a big liar!
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /798c5314480d0328
parallels between Romney & McCain
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /54cdb6153accd49a
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You could not watch that debate last night and NOT realize McCain is losing it. He kept muttering over and over again about "time tables" being a "buzz word." What? He simply could not string together two coherent sentences that confronted the question of dissembling.
He would hire a bunch of "managers" to handle the economy? What?
It was pitiable and embarrassing to watch. As I heard someone say, Huckabee is acting self-indulgent to stay in. He should get out and back Romney, but he won't because his ego is now invested and he hopes to score with McCain if he wins. But McCain can't win, he looks old, and not with it, so those values you Huckabee people hold dear will be abused when the Democrat wins, the most important of which, is the life of the unborn. Not very God-centered for a man who is "a man of the cloth," so to speak! |
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I don't think it is quite fair to call McCain the choice of the "elites." He is the choice of the moderates, and the MSM. The elites in the party, and certainly in the conservative movement, seem to have nothing but animosity for him (see also: any post by Hugh about McCain to date.)
That said, McCain and even Romney surely benefitted from a weak field, and the incredibly poorly run campaigns by Rudy and Fred. I fully expected both of these men to make a far stronger showing. |
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"Mitt On Military Service: Romney commented in the debate that "he wished he had served in the military." Talk as alway is cheap.'
Too true. Combine this with that lame statement, about a million years ago, when he said his sons were serving the country by helping get him elected, and you have a guy who will never get the support of veterans / military voters.
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That's it. I'll pull for McCain. Don't like him. I think he'll swerve left at the first chance he gets. I think he did the immigration bill to facilitate his run now, and the corporates need the labor to replace the 40 million we've aborted. He at least came down from his mountain last night on immigration. I know he doesn't believe it, but at least he's tipping his hat finally. I'll trust him with my vote even though I have no reason, based on history, to believe he'll do what I want. Stupid huh. That's politics. I voted for Dole too. Yes, why don't you elites do us a favor for once and honor us with some loyalty by not pushing the "it's their turn" candidates down our throats. |
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From Real Clear Politics this morning:
Without Schwarzenegger, Giuliani and McCain voters in 2004 George Bush would have lost to John Kerry and without Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and evangelical voters in 2008 John McCain does not have a chance against Hillary Clinton.
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So it comes down to this truth, those of you who can't stand McCain. We need you; I admit it, and you need us. The alternative is the Democrats. Are we going to get together to support national security, or are we going to destroy the Republican party once and for all? |
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[PC]"Mormons are the most consistently
conservative voters"
Are Mormons OK with the appointing of open homosexuals to positions of authority?
Jacobs, Ethan. 3 March 2005. "Mitt Romney’s secret gay history!" _Bay Windows_
http://www.baywindows.com/index.php?ch=columnists&sc=the_ro mney_files
Romney also continued Weld’s tradition of appointing openly gay people to key positions in his administration. One of his first cabinet appointments was Daniel Grabauskas, who Romney chose to serve in his cabinet as secretary of the Executive Office of Transportation and Construction.
The new governor’s transition team also included several openly gay people, including Grabauskas, former lieutenant governor candidate and current president of the national Log Cabin Republicans Patrick Guerriero, and former Mass. Log Cabin president Mark Goshko.
Other gay Romney appointees include John Wagner, commissioner of the state welfare department, Mitchell Adams, executive director of the Massachusetts Technology Collaborative, and Jonathan Spampinato, a member of Romney’s Diversity and Equal Opportunity Council. Two out lesbian appointees were fired by the governor shortly after getting legally married to their same-sex partners: Ardith Wieworka, former commissioner of Child Care Services, who was let go last summer, and Katherine Abbott, former commissioner of the Department of Conservation and Recreation, who was asked to resign last month after her department was blamed for not adequately clearing sidewalks
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He [Romney] offered political and financial support to two openly gay Republican candidates for state representative in 2004, Richard Babson in the Eighth Suffolk District and Michael Motzkin of the Ninth Essex District, who both lost. Both candidates were promoted as part of the Romney Reform Team.
Romney judges
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9380a1ac-650e-4e62-a8a 8-cc86e06ca2a1%40q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
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While everyone else bickers like McCain and Romney in the debate, being overlooked is the man who continues to demonstrate class, reason, experience and a very presidential prescence. He governed a state for 10 years and has a very solid list of accomplishments. He happens to come from a state that had many of the same problems we are facing today. And this candidate took the steps necessary to fix those problems.
It's time to do something dramatic to save the Republican Party.
I call on all true Republicans to take inventory and give real consideration to giving full support to Mike Huckabee on Super Tuesday and beyond. If Huckabee wins the majority of states, he can lead us out of this hopeless feeling that our party has become diluted by liberals disquised as Republicans. Don't let the MSM and right wing radio host elite tell you he isn't qualified. Do your own DD and help save this Party. You will also be saving America from a train wreck (democrat) moving back into the White House. |
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There is a valid point that Hugh's constant pushing of his candidate degrades the value of his appraisal of the debate. I think I understand the vehemence of the pro-McCain people here even after McCain appears as the automatic choice after Florida. Even they could see, despite their predisposition, that McCain didn't do well in the debate. I know everybody hates Romney because he's so "Ward Cleaver", but he was quicker and had a better command of the facts. He deflected the Senator's attack on raising taxes pretty effectively. Romney also recalled some of the events related to the Putin question fairly well, when others didn't seem to. I think McCain is the choice of the blue bloods, the old guard that doesn't give a rats rear end about ideology, but just wants to win. They think any other choice is suicide and the rest of us in the party are stupid little dweebs that don't understand the real world. I think they're blue bloods because they could care less about illegal immigration. Illegals are only a problem for the "lower" class. If that is the case, that kind of snobery will come back to bite them in the a__. I'll pull the lever for McCain in November if I have to, but it will be Bob Dole again. Maybe we should all get a grip and realize that neither candidate has a very good chance in November. Romney doesn't incite euphoria, but McCain is past his prime. |
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I couldn't tell whether I was listening to Don Rickels or Uncle Fester last night. This guy McCain won't make it to November. He's an old, nasty, bitter man who will have nothing in the tank by August. It's too bad the establishment can't see this disaster approaching. Too bad. Mitt would take apart the bureacracy in washington and surround himself with the smartest, most clever team you'd find. http://www.baincapital.com |
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And/So/But I have been thinking about that too. We have cranky old John on our side. The Dems will either have Bill roaming the halls of the While House without adult supervision, or the charismatic but untested Obama. Yikes.
I am off for a cruise to Jamaica next week, an escape from the -20 Minnesota winter. Maybe when I get back, tanned, rested and ready, I will wake up and it will all be a dream.
And Hugh will be playing Goin' Up the Country as bumper music again. |
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Keep it up, Hugh. You and the rest of her fans on the "right" may get her elected yet. It looks like your plan to hand her or Barack an automatic 20 point victory over your male mannequin has failed. So just keep up with the constant barrage of suggested tactics for the Dems to use against McCain, and just maybe they'll narrowly defeat him.
And then you and Limbaugh and the other blowhards will be right where you wanted to be, with the dreaded evil Clinton empire back in the White House and your anti-Clinton rhetoric actually being relevant again. |
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The problem for Hugh is that, by ALWAYS declaring Romney the winner, when Mitt actually does well (as I thought he did last night) no one cares about your points or remarks. Objectivity and respectability, once lost, are pretty impossible to regain. |
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I've mostly been coming here to laugh at Hugh these last few months. I have relished the trouncing of the conservative pundit/grandee conventional wisdom by McCain, a hero of mine. And I have never warmed to Romney, who I really feel is, particularly on the social and military issues, racing through a series of talking points, not discussing anything he really cares deeply about.
But I have to say, this debate made me reconsider. Maybe I just like the underdog, which, for all his money and talking head support, Romney has surely become. But I thought McCain looked small last night. His lame remark about the "downsizing" at Bain, especially when it was not germane to the question being answered, was particularly bad, but it really became quite clear to me that on the economy, McCain's answer is not to answer. He needs to stop mentioning Kemp and Phil Gramm. And yes, I fully support his leadership on the surge. It was another fine moment for him, in a man I think as a Senator has had many But it is not enough to rationalize a Presidency.
As a moderate GOP'er, I am one of those apostates who thinks that the immigration bill was flawed but not treasonous, and that global warming is real and needs to be addressed with leadership, not pretense of it going away on its own. So it is not McCain's past positions that bother me, but his vision for the future. I am concerned after last night that McCain will really suffer in comparison to Obama. If the Dems nominate Clinton, he can and should beat her. But against Obama, I think Romney would ave the better chance... |
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"FOOT SOLDIER" McCain is a disaster! MITT CLEARLY WON THE DEBATE & IS THE "TRUE" CONSERVATIVE ON THE BALLOT! Romney conducted himself in a presidential way & answered all the questions thoroughly.
One of the first “?'s” was on housing & McCain counldn't answer it, he had no plan of action. ROMNEY HAD A SPECIFIC ANSWER & PLAN.
When the "FOOT SOLDIER" was asked if he would sign his own AMNESTY BILL he REFUSED to answer the "?". WHICH MEANS HE WOULD SIGN IT!
The most important "?" of the evening was about how the "FOOT SOLDIER" smeared Mitt Romney w/ disingenuous robocalls and deceitful accusations on a so called "timeline" of retreat that Romney clearly did not state. All to mislead voters in Florida. ROMNEY CALLED McCAIN ON HIS DECEPTIVE LIE & ROMNEY LOOKED PRESIDENTIAL...McCAIN LOOKED LIKE A 1st CLASS JERK! McCAIN OBVIOUSLY LIED & couldn't weasle his way out of it!
By the way, THE CROWD ROARD in support of ROMNEY.
McCain is an UNTRUSTWORTHY UNRELIABLE "FOOT SOLDIER" REPUBLICAN TRAITOR who would disappoint Ronald Reagan with his liberal record and liberal goals for our country. He's a pseudo-Republican...as the old saying goes "a wolf hiding in sheep’s clothing"...McCain's "a liberal hiding in the conservative party"
GO MITT ROMNEY! CONSERVATIVES DONT' SELL OUT. FIGHT FOR OUR PARTY - VOTE MITT ROMNEY!
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Your man crush is rather pitiable. |
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starting the day after he gets the nomination.
All these polls showing McCain beating Hillary and Obama. Expect those to suddely disappear with either Hillary or Obama ahead of Mccain by 20 points.
That mad cackle you will hear will be the leadres of the DNC laughing hysterically at how they chose the LEAST ELECTABLE REPUBLICAN to run against them.
Rush Limbaugh will have one of the greatest 'I TOLD YOU SO!" moments in the history of Earth. McCain is the TROJAN HORSE of the DNC. |
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Better a common enemy than a traitor in our midst!
Better a common enemy than a traitor in our midst!
Better a common enemy than a traitor in our midst!
Better a common enemy than a traitor in our midst!
Better a common enemy than a traitor in our midst! |
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If McCain is our nominee, then we have already lost.
He looked like someone who was intimitaded by the guy who has the right answers and sticks by them.
There is much respect for John for his war hero status...but it will not win us the presidency.
We lose big time..think about a young, energetic, virile Obama next to a tired, worn out, leather faced McCain.
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Nominate McCain and get ready for the lowest Republican Turnout in the history of Earth.
Let me put it this way. I DESPISE Hillary Clinton. I DETEST Hillary Clinton. She is a SOCIALIST DEVIL.
But if McCain is the nominee, I will VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON!
With Hillary, atleast the Republicans in Congress could get back to their Conservative Roots by have a common far left enemy.
The Republican Congress was NEVER STRONGER AND MORE EFFECTIVE than will Bill Clinton was President. Nothing brings you together like a common enemy.
I am starting a MOVEMENT RIGHT NOW. If McCain is the Nominee, "VOTE FOR HILLARY! Better a common enemy, than a Traitor in our midst!
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The oldest, tired looking, angriest, most poorly spoken, class-warfare spewing, fact twisting, yellow toothed fossil who the focus group members gave the lowest scores of the night.
THAT was the nominee of the Republican Party?
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But, this time, it's mandatory that a PLAN be initiated. I'm going to be petitioning for Mitt over the weekend in Pennsylvania; judging from the NRO assessment, there will be plenty of future delegate-selections to come...and Mitt should find that becoming more pugnatious won't undermine any fundamental can-do "CEO"-imagery.
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So 64% vote for someone besides McCain and you McCainites think he is more electable that Hiltary who got 50% of the votes.
Reagan won two elections against the Democrats because he could inspire people to vote for his vision of a shining city on a hill.
McCain in Michigan says "those jobs are gone and will NEVER return". Yes, McCain sure knows how to inspire.
McCain on stopping the illegal invasion says we CAN'T round up the lawbreakers, it would be too HARD. Sounds like a Democrat defeatist loser.
Romney and Huckabee (especially) both were better at inspiring people to vote for them. The problem is the MSM successfully got 36% of the moderates/ignorant voters in the Republican party to vote for their man. The MSM will tear him down nonstop right after the Republican convention.
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That smugness wasn't punctured, but I don't understand why Mitt didn't raise the January-quote from McVain that endorsed timetables, as well!
Any disinterested observer--TRYING to like McVain--would have to conclude the man simply isn't up to the job of expressing ideas.
When reading Novak's column, two messages emerge. First, it looks bad for the home-team in terms of short-term delegate shopping. Second, the rationalizations that McVain would be a better campaigner than Mitt simply fall flat.
My theory is that the SH-Amnesty-wing of the GOP is manifesting itself; it will take all the energies that all the rest of us can muster to overcome this impending debacle...regardless of which D is nominated.
Sean had it wrong. We don't need to change the message; the Conservative posture remains optimal. We must expose McVain's fundamental flaws and juvenile mien.
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... Huckabee might entertain a minor role for Romney in his cabinet, on one condition, that Romney repent and convert to Christianity, and undergo believer's baptism.
This would be right in line with Huckabee's and the Southern Baptist Convention's outreach to Mormons in Salt Lake a few years ago.
Hmm, I wonder if Romney would feel more at home in the Calvinist or Arminian branch of the SBC?
Hey, Progressive Revelation. Anything's possible!
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"Ready for the "Rape and Pillage" Society"
Goodness me, someone has the vapors!
"Mike you finished behind Rudy in Fla. Give up the delusion and mend fences with Romney. What could a Romney/Huckabee ticket do?"
Other than be an utter impossibility outside of the feverish imagination of a desparate Rombot?
Ah, more sweet aroma of crack pipe in the early morning hours.
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And buenas noches, Mittenistas tristes!
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Zel Miller's party left him and mine is leaving me. McCain is not steamrolling, but due to stupid rules, and Evangelical fanatics, McCain is taking South Carolina (2/3 of her people voted against McAmnesty) with 33 percent, Florida nearly the same way, except surprise, the huge majority of Johns votes came from Cubans and Hispanics. Fred had no stomach for the fight. Only after Romney is gone and the Regan conservatives have left Huckabee in McCains dust will the true Republicans realize the GOP is gone.Many of us who believe in the rule of law, cannot vote Huckabee over destroying public property and states evidence. If outgoing Gov. Blount did that here in Missouri where he is being sued by a former staffer, he would be hung. Only in the home of Hillary and Tucker, do we have this level of corruption!
http://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-announces-list- washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2007
Goodbye GOP, Hello Unites States of Mexico. Mike you finished behind Rudy in Fla. Give up the delusion and mend fences with Romney. What could a Romney/Huckabee ticket do? How about keep Hillary out of the Casa Blanca? How about stop McCain-Kennedy? Otherwise we nominate a Republican McGovern candidate, then when the Dems have full control, "The Great Society" will look like a kids game. Wake up Republicans!! |
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I love the smell of radio host crack pipes in the morning.
"Romney's third conscutive strong performance in a debate will almost certainly lead to a rise day-to-day over the next six days in key states"
Let's see the Intrade numbers this morning:
Illinois
McCain 81.0
Romney 19.0
California
McCain 91.3
Romney 8.1
New York
McCain 95.0
Romney 5.0
Oh, the carnage!
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Got to go to bed. Dreaming about beans and tortillas. Sure appreciate the culture. |
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Like shooting fish in a barrell. What a clown Romney is.
"But then Romney seemed to walk right into the trap again, launching into an extended defense of his position and allowing McCain to set an agenda that shielded him from any significant damage. "
Homer Simpson meet your soulmate, Mitt Romney.
"And, Romney added, 'if you get endorsed by the New York Times, you're probably not a conservative.'"
That's funny. Romney is such a tool. What does he think that being elected governor of Massachussetts indicates?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/8233.html
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Bet you like that amnesty policy. Trying to get the family up here for Cinco de Mayo? Big celebration for the Mexs. |
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Word on the street is that Hugh's best-selling opus magnus is entering international markets!
First language: Spanish! It's not clear, however, that the translators got the title right, though:
"Un Mormon Blanco En Mi Casita"
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No need to know Spanish. English is the lingua franca of the world.
Appreciate your efforts, though!
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... Is An Exercise In Futility.
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A vote for Romney is a vote for Juan McCain. A vote for either is a vote for the Democrats.
Each scenario sacrifices our most important principles - not to mention yields our national sovereignty to the globalists.
It's time for conservatives to reconsider Gov Huckabee:
http://www.mikehuckabee.com
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Think that Romney has a too large a mountain to climb...so if McCain gets the nod...(which I would prefer that he didn't)...but the reality is we should all support the republican nominee (not necessarily the conservative one...which we all want)...that the number two guy better be someone who can debate and campaign well...against Obama & Clinton...and who knows...if McCain gets in the WH...the number two guy is only a heart beat / stroke away...from being the Boss...
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"It says in our constitution that there should not be a religious test to be president. You should not elect based on religion or not elect based on religion That in itself is unamerican."
Sorry, that's entirely wrong. The constitution precludes sectarian religious tests made by the government, not by private citizens.
Religion is often a key component in people's political decision-making. Witness the 95% mormon support of Romney in Nevada. Ahem.
Interesting that purported conservatives would try to abuse the Constitution to control people's thoughts and behavior.
Then again, the Rombots do not act lik conservatives. They act like pure-identity-politics, dishonest and cowardly ideologues who will say whatever it takes to try to get their dog of a candidate elected.
They'll play the victim card when it suits them to attempt to shut down meaningful debate about the candidate.
Comes with the territory.
Too bad Huckabee ran over their dog in Iowa.
Nothing but mop up ops since then.
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Your brain seems to be stuck in Espanol. Try English to frame a cogent idea. |
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"Wow Whorhe You are living the alternate reality."
http://tinyurl.com/25oj6j
Bummer to get smacked in the face by reality, eh? Harsh your mellow?
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... and whupping your fraudulent candidate's behind all over the place.
Bummer to spend all those millions, make all those empty promises, tell all those lies, and still get owned by a senior citizen!
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You can't explain it to the silly twit(maybe 'a'). |
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You obviously have no clue about the mormon people. I am mormon. We do not base our votes on religion. I feel it is very important that the candidate that I do pick has some sort of belief in a higher being. It says in our constitution that there should not be a religious test to be president. You should not elect based on religion or not elect based on religion That in itself is unamerican. The problem is there is not and will never be a perfect candidate. So you have to decide based on facts, issues, and gut. |
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of piece and an idiot to boot. Take your bias and kiss off mate!
But first I would like to personally round house kick McCain right in the teeth and his rabid supporters, starting with his personal cheerleaders: the illegal-loving Medved, the illegal-loving Bill Kristol, an ossified Novak and the illegal-loving David Brooks.
Isn't that awful? But that is how I feel. Why if Hucksterbee's Ed Rollins can say it, why can't I do it to that midget Ed Rollins and that midget swain McVain.
I am so hoping Billary wins especially if it wipes the smarmy smirk off of Bill Kristol's face! |
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I love your McCainiac obviously biased comments...and to think that your guy is never in a cantankerous mood, never lies, never swears, never screws with the GOP, never maried into money, never was involved in a shameful political scandal, why St. John walks on water..NOT! Where has he been all these decades? Wrong my faux GOPer...
McQuisling is as much of a political hack after 25 YEARS in the Congress as any other pol. No Jorge, it is you who has a man-crush on McCain, the way you wax so starry-eyed when you mention St. John. PLEEEZ! Your midget that looks like Ariel Sharon before he had his stroke has gone apoplectic many, many times and only someone who is as love-struck as you can't see his faults. I guess we will just get all the new recruits for our military from the illegal hordes streaming into the USofA because Juan McQuisling dear lap-dancing friend and advisor is Juan Hernandez, La Raza and Vicente Fox official for Reconquista of the entire Southwest.
I just can't wait to see him either suffer a stroke or a heart attack--if he does make it into the WH office-- and I will be laughing, cause now you will have that hillbilly Hucksterbee who can't find Pakistan on his map and who wants to talk to Iran cause Mahmoud Ahmedinijad is his friend.
C'mon Juan McQuisling you can have a stroke...oh no, you say, you are never too old for office if you are megalomaniac bantam rooster strutting your tail feathers like in "La Cage aux Folles" at everyone who is conservative. Hucksterbee is just chomping at the bit to get his hand on the nuclear button when you finally have your apoplectic attack. And we will all be funding illegals' education cause we Americans just love learning Spanish.
5'7" and 73 years old...Oh he will be a great Napoleon! When does he start wearing Depends diapers and dribbling oatmeal down his chin?
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You are living the alternate reality. |
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Congrats on seeing through the deception.
If you haven't seen Mitt in his own words -- pro-abortion, pro-homosexuals in the Boy Scouts, pro Affirmative Action, etc -- check this out.
http://tinyurl.com/25oj6j
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the mormons have had other candidates. . . joe smith ran, but he was killed by a mob; hatch ran in 2000 i believe but didn't get much traction, george romney ran . . . don't recall the years, but he didn't get the nomination, and mo udall ran against jimmy carter in 1976. no doubt that many mormons identify with romney because he's a conservative and because he's a mormon because they understand him, but if they did not believe he were conservative, I doubt they would have supported him en masse in the primary. I suspect there were some mormons in Nevada who supported Hillary or Obama or even Edwards . . . and as you note there were some who didn't support Romney.
again, i don't see the mormons going out of their way to castigate the religion of any body else to help a presidential candidate, but Romney isn't the first. Other than Joe Smith, though, this is the first time folks have made such a big deal about it.
Thanks for the chat, but this conversation has also turned silly. Good night Sarah. |
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you are still using stupid girl logic-but I know you can't help it. Consider a program. Your family will be grateful. |
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Feb. 5th all idiots like myself will be the deciders and all the smart saints, who can't win a nomination, can go home and begin helping the LDS set up for the next missionary project. How saintly! |
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for backing the Flipster. You and the rest of those so-called conservative commentators. We had a real conservative candidate that 90+% of us could have supported and been proud to vote for but no, you guys talked up baby killer Rudy and Mitt the flip and now we're left with no real choice. My bumper sticker will read, "Don't blame me I voted for Fred." Enjoy the next 4 years of Hillary Scare, although this may just help your ratings. I sure won't be listening... |
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Mitt with you when you vote for Obama or Billary. The republican party is made up of multiple platforms and Mc supporters are proud to call themselves conservatives. Take your ball, and invite Mitt to play in your backyard. I have a feeling he will have lots of free time and less money come Feb. 5th. |
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Your rantings from your drug induced stupor still reflect a little mind heaving in emptiness. In other words -you are a stupid idiot supporting a lying stupid idiot. Take an aspirin and go to bed so we don't catch a dose of the McCain clap. |
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You wrote: "Using Hugh to go all attack all the time has alienated the GOP leadership, just like it caused us to turn back from Mitt due to Hugh's meanspirited attacks."
BULLS-EYE!! You hit a home run with this observation!
I started out as a Romney supporter and was driven away by the lies, mis-characterizations and demagoguery. When I actually examined the facts, I lost a lot of respect for Mitt and especially Hugh. It was very sad.
I am not sure who I will support in the primary, but I know it will NOT be Mitt Romney. If Gov. Romney does end up with the nomination, then I will absolutely vote for him in the General Election. However, I want to vote FOR somebody in the primary--not simply goaded or threatened into voting for a candidate by a talk show host that I have lost immense respect for. |
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had a presidential candidate before so they did not have a choice. Most people admit when they pick a candidate based on religious beliefs, even evangelicals said they picked Huck for religious beliefs, blacks have said so about obama and women about Hillary. Mormons pretend that its the shared political view points, they are liars who can't tell a straight story. When 95% of a religious group votes for their own religious candidate, it's statistically impossible to conclude that religon was not a big factor. Just own it and stop lying or crying bigotry when Mitt looses fair and square. How many bigots will there be on Feb. 5th? tick tock tick tock....am sure 98% of mormons in Utah will vote for Mitt, what a coincidence. |
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that Romney has been defined by the other candidates with the help of the MSM . . .you are also right that it doesn't matter that he wins every debate . . . the establishement is not ready to nominate mitt . . . they did the same thing to reagan . . . they defined him as an out of control right winger who couldn't be trusted with the nukes . . . Reagan failed too, but he still won all of the debates.
so, i'm not sure what your point is. McCain is likely to win the nomination, but that doesn't make him the best choice, and it surely doesn't mean he won the debates. everything i wrote is still true, at least in my humble opinion. |
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We are now on to version 5.5. In FL he attacked Mc for voting against entitlements (hoping to turn seniors against Mc), In CA today he discussed that nobody is looking at entitlements and that he would make sure those are decreased so that they don't increase from 60 to 70%. The fiscal conservative who campaigned in NH had turned into version 5.0 in Michigan when he offered the $50 billion to create jobs. Hey, remember before he was the "agent of change" he was the "true conservative"? Only when you look at his record in MA, it spells proabortion, gay marriage, mandatory govt. care, fund raising for planned parenthood etc. Who is Romney? Somebody needs to define him because he morphs into something new for every primary and now that there are 22 states holding the primaries he does not know what version will work best. America can't afford a Mitt presidency in times of war when we need a stable, strong, unwavering commander in chief. FYI, that regret about military service is difficult to believe considering he said his sons are serving the country by helping daddy in his campaign. SERIOUSLY |
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I guess the mormons were bigots when they voted for bush, and reagan, and the loser Ford, and Nixon . . . so are all the evangelicals who vote for Huck bigots just because they voted for huck?
I don't recall seeing any thrash from mormons that they couldn't support huck because baptists believe rediculous things found in the bible (although I teased everyone including mormons a bit on that point), or that they wouldn't support Fred because he wasn't a mormon . . . i haven't seen any mormon teeth gnashing like that . . . i'll keep my eyes open though cause they're just people too.
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Mc gets the entire south, the prochoice crowd, the defense/security voters, the military voters, the evangelical voters, the hispanic voters, and most white men. What was your point? There will not be enough college kids or voters under 30 to match these demographics. |
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I suppose we are all a little bit guilty of that. Santorum would disagree with you on McCain's social conservatism. McCain will get slaughtered in the general. maybe romney would too, but he would at least advocate conservative values and offer an alternative on immigration (assuming he and mccain are the same on taxes and life)
Reagan failed in his first run at the presidency too; the establishment rejected the outsider by spreading fear of what he might do, of who he was. I remember. I was afraid. I was afraid when Nixon the liberal knocked him down and so I supported Nixon, and when Ford the establishement did it, I suppored Ford and the establishment. I saw what I wanted to see, and I was wrong.
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It will be like a young Tiger Woods taking on an ancient Arnold Palmer for $5 million a hole. It's going to be a blowout.
But hey, you McCain supporters get to stick it to Hugh and Rush so all is good. |
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Mormons have a right to vote for Mitt because he is a mormon like in NV and WY where they did not give Fred, a man with a solid conservative record, any time of day but 95% of them voted for Mitt. Americans have a right to reject romney because he is a mormon. Mormon-bigotry is as bad as anti-mormon bigotry but nobody wants to really talk about it......just like Mitt's NRA endorsement. Dillusional and cultist, what a coincidence! tick tock tick tock. |
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"What no one points out though is Romney was elected in MA."
You're mistaken. This has been pointed out on numerous occasions, as has the fact well as the fact that he took pro-abortion, pro-homosexual-marriage, pro-homosexuals in the Boy Scouts, anti-Bush tax cuts (to Barney Frank's approval) positions, among others. In other words, he ran as a liberal.
You're apparently have not paying attention.
"This is very impressive for any Republican."
That's one take on it. Another take is that it's an utter embarrasment to any Republican with ambitions beyond a liberal region. Indeed, one might conclude now that it's disqualifying for any Republican with ambitions beyond a liberal region.
"Sure it takes some compromises, but damn man, that is the definition of electability!"
Impressive how the Rombots like to curse. Anyway, yes, it's the definition of electibility for one term in a liberal state: run like a liberal.
Unfortunately for Romney, it took less than one term for the residents of MA to see through the mask. As one small example, he got no endorsements from major MA papers, neither conservative nor liberal. So much so that he was proven unelectable in NH, MA's back yard.
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is better experienced in foreign policy and defense. Also has been consistent on pro-life issues. These two issues make him a clear choice in November because neither Hillary nor Obama have any come back for the Mc. Also, Mitt has spent over $50M and has not made a convincing argument to voters that he can be commander in chief. What makes you think he can convince voters in November? He is doing poorly with minorities, military personnel, and evangelicals (15% or so). Mc, has won in primaries that included republicans only, independents, minorities, and lots of military personnel. Mc beat out Mitt with people who cited the economy as the biggest issue 2:1 (voters can't trust Mitt to turn the economy around, and this is his strongest position). Mitt should have ran as a moderate, prochoice, pro-gay marriage candidate who is a fiscal conservative to match his credentials as governer of MA and hope that moderates and independents vote for him. His new shared values of political expediency make him UNACCEPTABLE AND UNPREDICTABLE or just a phoney! |
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sorry, i think there were a few words missing in your post. . . are you saying let's get behind obama? |
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Isn't that what Hugh really wanted to title this post, but cooler heads prevailed? |
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until very recently, in my opinion, this blog has been dominated by anti-mormon rhetoric from the mitt haters . . . . the anti-mormons are still here, but they've tried hard to focus on non-religious mitt bashing. still, the teeth gnashing is so obvious . . . no need to call them out by name . . . we all know who they are. those feelings are really deep, so deep they'll overlook all of McCain's flaws . . . they are afraid and it shows.
the McCain haters, in my opinion, are a different crowd. yes, sometimes their ranting gets excessive, but its not backed by bigotry . . . its generally outrage at amnesty, feingold, lieberman, taxes . . .
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Get real. Obama is much more of a feasible candidate than McCain. Face facts and grow up, and stop your crying. The time has come and there is no way any hero will be able to withstand the coming tsunami of hope. So just be quiet and get on board now.
Sure he doesn't support all the things we want, but he's much more open minded about putting up a fence, and will try hard to work with Republicans.
Don't like it tough. That's politics. It's about winning not ideas, chump.
Time for some new blood and a new direction. Time to turn the page. |
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because he needs a lawyer to tell him what to do. He can not think on his feet without talking points. If he is the great turn around candidate he keeps taunting he is, today he should have done to Mc and Huck what they did to him in NH. Go on the offensive and keep on the offensive. The problem is that Mitt got caught "not taking a position on the surge" two months before he announced he was running for president, so when Mc raised the issue of being a manager and not taking a leadership position when things get tough - he could not find a come back. He also could not explain why he did not just say "No" instead of talking about timetables which was code for withdrawal at that time. Mitt's double speak is based on the fact that without being told what to say, he can't think on his feet. Remember the reporter who called him on his lies about not having lobbysts in his campaign. He sounded stupid explaining that they are advisers not paid staff while trying to explain they won't influence his presidency. He can not fight, and when jihadists attack, i don't want him as commander in chief. |
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You can say McCain wasn't presidential looking all night and it won't make a difference. Romney is losing these debates because he's letting McCain define him and his positions, and all Romney does is put up a weak fight and then chuckle after McCain finishes ripping him a new one. I mean, cmon. In 2004 Kerry probably won every debate against Bush. But Bush defined Kerry as a flip flopper and it stuck. It was endgame. Romney is doing just as poorly as Kerry did. |
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Is the very definition of a flip flop. He and John Kerry are two of a kind. Change? decades-held belief in the middle of a campaign, that is McCain. You want the definition of a cynic? you got it; McCain's his name.
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It seems the only argument the McCain defenders actually seem to believe is that he's electable. This makes them more pragmatic realists than the rigid ideologues they imply. Electability is important, but the argument hinges on current polls (meaningless) and the impression that McCain is popular. He is, but almost solely due to the adoring press he gets. That will turn 180 right after he gets the nomination and I doubt that McAnger will be able to deal very well with actually being demonized by the machine he courts. And those mushy moderates who love him now will only go along with what their TVs suggest, just as they do now.
What no one points out though is Romney was elected in MA. This is very impressive for any Republican. Sure it takes some compromises, but damn man, that is the definition of electability! McCain could only do so if he became a democrat and married a Kennedy. And I think he would. |
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It's funny... alot of the conservative talkers/bloggers have been bailing out and turning on Bush as of late. I wonder what they think of Bush now, since our last two candidates are McCain and Rommney? lol |
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He plays a very good soldier and scores points on his commitment to defense, but he's not presidential or executive. McCain is not a good debater--he'd crumble immediately if he was really forced to move beyond his "surge good, rumsfeld bad, me proud" line, which is the only one he has. He was gritty though.
Romney was executive and professional and came across very presidential. He needed to do more bare-knuckled boxing tonight though. But I think Hugh's assessment is generally accurate.
On the issues, McCain is still not a conservative, and despite his conversion to conservative judges and protecting the border, its empty rhetoric. As pointed out above, we are supposed to be proud of his outrageous lies because it shows he's a street fighter. The MSM will show him as a petty old man, and emphasize his dimunitive intellectual and physical size. |
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Nothing worse than a misplaced apostrophe. "were"
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After yesterday's results confirmed my decision to leave the Republican party. I live in one of the most conservative states in this country many are leaning to voting for Barack Obama over John McCain. Why because the Republican party has lost its soul? When did character stop mattering in our choice of leaders? You have a man who has a wife who is a cripple who waits for him as a POW. What kind of reward does she receive for such loyalty? An unfaithful husband who leaves her for a trophy rich wife. Didn't John Kerry marry for money too? This is who the Republican party wants for their next President Bravo. Then you have a bigoted Baptist preacher who smears another candidates choice of faith. A faith he knows nothing about. Only what his theology professors told him to believe. The next likely VP nominee for President brilliant Republicans again. Then you have Mitt Romney a man whose has a MS condition and what does he do oh he stays married to her. When presented with embryonic stem cell research which could help others including his own wife. He vetoes the bill. Yes he did in fact change his mind on abortion. I would never presume to judge someone who lost a family member to a botched abortion. What bothers me is the people who refuse to support him because of his change of heart even though George H. Bush and Ronald Reagan had such change of hearts. Those who had no problem pulling the lever for both men. What is the difference Mitt Romney's faith? They use the change of heart rather than own up to their bigotry..
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Look, McCain was my 3rd choice after Rudy, then Fred. After the poor performance from Rudy I was angry, but I either had to move on or cry like a little baby. Like most of the Rush/Hugh sheep are doing now. The bottom line is, McCain has won the voters over and Romney hasn't. Romney could never convince people, after his early flip flops, that he was trustworthy and a real conservative. Frankly, I'm getting sick of Republicans painting McCain as a liberal and Romney as "the great hope". Neither are. McCain is basically a GW Bush clone. He won't let the Dems push him around and that's why I think he's a much better general election candidate than Romney. Romney is so plastic like. If Romney faces off against Obama, it will be ugly. McCain against Obamam will be tough, but at least McCain is a fighter and has the ability to debate someone. Romney, as seen tonight at the debate, runs out of things to say and let McCain jump all over him. All Romney could do wss chuckle as McCain tore him a new one. Sorry folks, McCain is our guy. If you don't wanna vote for him, fine... But for crying out loud, stop the constant whining!!! |
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Nothing worse than . . . except for triple.
Sorry about the double.
I meant to ask why you keep hammering away about McCain's age as if you we're pre-empting the Dems' attacks.
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How does it feel to support the same person the far left kook libs support? So you don't like Romney, well great! Neither do the liberals who you have thrown in with.
I told you before.... go vote for Hillary, she promises to give you stuff since the evil corporations screwed you over.
McCain is going to get destroyed come election day. There is simply no reason for the conservative base to support this jerk. Without the GOP base being motivated, it is IMPOSSIBLE for McCain to win even a few states.
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Full of bitterness and nastiness from all of the candidates. I was extremely disappointed in McCain and Romney. They are starting to sound as bad as the Clintons & Obama. Tearing each other apart will only help the Democrats in the end. Luckily for both of them, there is no longer a Rudy or Fred for people sick of the bickering to flock to. Hoepfully the smoke will settle after Super Tuesday and the party can heal and unite. |
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Love you, Hugh. (I'm one of those once-a-Catholic types, like you.)
I don't understand your animus against McCain:
The War? Judges? Taxes? The budget? Roe v. Wade? Winning the general election?
Anything else that really matters besides rooting for the losing team?
Go Buckeyes?
All the best,
Chris Maron
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How does it feel to support the same person the far left kook libs support? So you don't like Romney, well great! Neither do the liberals who you have thrown in with.
I told you before.... go vote for Hillary, she promises to give you stuff since the evil corporations screwed you over.
McCain is going to get destroyed come election day. There is simply no reason for the conservative base to support this jerk. Without the GOP base being motivated, it is IMPOSSIBLE for McCain to win even a few states.
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"McCain's responses are the same we have heard again and again, and they do not wear well." |
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The Republican party has a grumpy, out of touch, senate elitist who gets confused during a debate and can only repeat the same one liners and refuse to answer direct questons. Lord, the Lib/Dems media has set up the perfect scenario for a Dem tidal wave.
The Mcamnesty wipe out will make the Clinton/ Dole election look close.
I wonder what price Huckster charge to stay in the race for Mcamnesty ?
We are in deep trouble with these two Mcamnesty/Huskster clowns .
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Love you, Hugh. (I'm one of those once-a-Catholic types, like you.)
I don't understand your animus against McCain:
The War? Judges? Taxes? The budget? Roe v. Wade? Winning the general election?
Anything else that really matters besides rooting for the losing team?
Go Buckeyes?
All the best,
Chris Maron
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service. At least Mitt can encourage his 5 sons to enlist before he proposes that he will send an additional 100K troops to die for freedom. I suppose the Romney saints are too precious to risk their lives and as Mitt said "they are serving their country by supporting Dad's campaign" Let's hope that after Feb 5th when Mitt's campaign is over, his son's will enlist and serve the country in the military. What a phoney! and he wants to be commander in chief? At least Mc's 2 son's are serving, that is one thing the Mittheads can't despute. So when he says he wants us to succeed abroad and bring the troops back alive - we can trust him. |
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God bless you MaryStella! |
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That stupid forced grin has GOT to go... |
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It is crystal clear to me that Mc Cain has chosen Huckabee as his VP choice. In exchange, Huckabee will serve as left tackle to Mc Cain, protecting his blond side. i feel sorry for Huckabee supporters who can't see what is going on. They are in essence voting for Mc cain when they pull the lever for Huckabee. |
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If Huckabee gives a hoot about conservative principles then he will withdraw and throw his weight behind Romney. Period.
When we care for our society then we must of necessity believe that a growing economy is paramount. This care we are told by Huckabee is first and foremost in his mind. Then he must throw his weight behind economic growth, and forego short term political gain.
Anyone who says, I'm for patriotism over economy is economically autistic. And has no clue that Military strength has a direct relationship to economic strength. See Rome, or for that matter Byzantium.
Yes, that means Huckabee will have to turn away from McCain, but then that is the right thing to do.
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I just do not understand why people can be so small, and write untrue and mean spirited material on mormons. I am Roman Catholic, and from time to time been the receiving end of what you experience here, and it really bothers me.
There is no reason to disagree with someone because they are jews or christains! the few mormons I have known, they volunteer most of their free time in service of others and they are solidly pro-life, nicest people I have ever met.
Gov. Romney is a very decent, respectable person, God Bless him and his family.
As far as Senator McCain, his military service and bravery in Vietnam has our most respect and gratitude. But, politically, legislatively, has a long rap sheet that is less admired and desired by conservatives.
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there's no way I'd vote for McQuisling. I've read the posts here and there's on consistency, the old maxim "tell a lie often enough, pretty soon people will believe you." I wonder how many McCainiacs posting are paid or like Creepy
Smilin'Jack Hernandez unpaid volunteers for the McNasty campaign. You repeat the same old same old. I'm from Mass., I don't live there now, but my family of Republican voters do and it seems they don't have that animosity. It looks to me that Mitt took a DemonRat destroyed State and economy and left with it better than ever.
Prolife: Yeah tell that to murdered Border Agent run down by a Humvee he was trying to stop. Tell that to his widow and sons. Tell that to the thousands of victims of illegal crime and
DUI's by illegals. Their blood is on the hands of every Open Border selloout and McC is the leading one.
For the troops: Which ones, the sighted MIA/POW's
mentioned in a report he and Hanoi John spiked
for a flaming business deal in N. VietNam?
A Patriot Hero? Has a Mexican government agent as immigration advisor? Makes me wonder if Keating wasn't a problem, why would he have a problem taking payola from Mexico? Hmmmm.
So before you slam Mitt, start looking at your own boy..you know the pasty faced old turkey smirking at Mitt. What I saw was the difference between real class and classlessness. We went that route in the 90's, and you want MORE???
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Goes Romney. He couldn't help but whine about "timetables." Sounds like ole grouchy Bob Dole ranting about his record being lied about. Apply clothespin to nose, enter voting booth. Groan. |
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Strangely enough, at least in the primaries, they don't include his religion. At this point he won't get to the general, but if he did, it probably would be a much bigger weight for him. [I can already hear what Clinton surrogates would be saying]
He does, however, fall into the Bill Simon, Al Checchi, Steve Forbes, Ross Perot, I'm going to buy an election boat, which causes problems.
He also has authenticity issues that seem incomprehensible to his true believers (regardless of faith), but that put him at a serious disadvantage.
He also angered every one of the other candidates because he went negative while trying to maintain an "aw shucks" attitude to their faces. It's not even that his ads were so over the top, but they were very "in your face" because of the volume. That rallied the main contenders together against him and ensures McCain a string of high-powered endorsements.
He's now screwed because he's not spending ad money. Romney has shown he is capable of ramping up his Q factor quickly with massive tv buys, but he's running out of time and no ads. I think it's because he's spent his fund-raising and is left with his own checkbook. Moreover, now McCain gets to tap into Rudy's ground-game, neutralizing much of Romney's organizational advantage.
Combine that with a debate performance that, at most, scored technical points against a less-than-stellar McCain and he's in real trouble. Throw on the steady string of high-profile endorsements (incl. conservative ones) and this thing is about done. McCain's debate performance was not sterling, but it was probably good enough -- and the timing of the Rudy and Schwarzenegger endorsements was brilliant.
The irony is McCain has no "machine" and doesn't even have a pollster, but he's made the right moves for the primaries. Nip and tuck there for a while, but he looks like he's breaking free.
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Romney wasn't happy about the criticism McCain leveled at him about timetables in Iraq. He said it was a dirty trick because it came days before Florida. Well, maybe so, but it should also serve as a comfort to nervous Republicans about McCain's ability to play hardball in the general. McCain may seem like a guy who likes to reach across the aisle but he's not afraid to get dirty. McCain will be a very clever general election candidate; it won't all be kumbaya with Clinton or Obama.
Romney's pushback, btw, that if this was an issue, then why didn't he raise it earlier, wasn't a great debate comeback moment. As I've noted before, Romney just doesn't come across well when he's angry.
Overall, Romney seemed simply ticked off. It was as if he realized the end was near and he didn't know how to stop it. He tried to go after McCain, politely mind you, but didn't trip the newly crowned frontrunner up.
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Saying alot does not make you smarter. |
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I am a McCain voter but would still vote for Romney in the general. Romney would also make a good vice president choice. That would be McCain seriously reaching out to the base. I would do it, but I am not McCain.
Huck would be a bad choice for vice president, but a great choice for the head of faith based intitiatives. The guy is amazing at gibing the needs of the church with human needs. Too much religion, but it is great in the right place. |
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Despite McCain's 82 percent ranking by the American Conservative Union, and his support for balanced budgets, an end to pork-barrel spending and earmarks, strong support for the war, and expressed regret over once supporting the Bush illegal immigration reform package, McCain was branded by the conservative media as a sellout and a near liberal. Not to mention, he was supposedly too old and hot-tempered to be the Republican nominee. The more McCain was discovered not to be a perfect conservative, the more he was accused of not even being a good one.
Even stranger, the various Republican candidates began invoking Ronald Reagan's three-decade-old tenure as the new litmus test of the times — apparently to show how moderates like the wayward McCain fell far short of the Gipper's true-blue conservatism.
Were conservatives supposed to forget that a maverick Reagan raised some taxes, signed an illegal alien amnesty bill, expanded government, appointed centrist Supreme Court justices, advocated nuclear disarmament, sold arms to Iran and pulled out of Lebanon — but to remember only that John McCain was not for the original Bush tax cuts or once supported the administration’s offer of a quasi-amnesty?
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I'm an evangelical and there is NO way I would ever vote for Huckabee. He talks a good game but all I hear is Elmer Gantry. Sadly there are too many of my fellow evangelicals who look at Mitts religion and JUDGE, something we are told
never to do. Our job is to pray. I've seen too many t.v. religion hucksters to believe anything he says, no matter how prettily he puts it. Having been slammed by bigots (including McC by his disdain for much of the conservatives)I'm amazed that they return their bigotry to a fine man. When slammed, Mitt should start asking how they'd vote for Thomas Jefferson since he was supposed to be deist? That's my intended question to the ones I know.
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Give me a break. Let's see a man who was elected in Massacheusetts is a conservative. Sure that state elected a conservative. You must think you can sell me a bridge in Brooklyn.
He has had a least 3 positions on abortion. That is why many evangelicals who support Huckabee will not support him. Romney is as consistent as bowel of jello
If you were selling a real conservative, I might buy.
I am afraid you folks would call Goldwater a liberal, too. He supported abortion
Again I say some of you are really ugly people. You say terrible things about McCain. If you knew me personally, you would not say those things to me. But here you can hide behind anonimty of the blog.
Right now if Romney were elected, I would vote for him. If you keep attacking McCain the way you are, I might reconsider. You seem to hate everyone who does not agree with you 100%,
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Does that mean we ought to vote for him as president. I am a vet too and serve in iraq in 2004 but i am not voting for McCain cuase of crossing the isle to the other side. |
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The debate was okay..nothing exceptional..except
when mc cain got booed ohhhh you didnt hear that! and romney got a applauding..ohhh you didnt hear that..of course not!the undecided gave romney a 90% rating..! ohhh you didnt see/hear that..doesnt surprise me..since your heads are so far up your anals..as usual..that you may see daylight in a couple years!
Mc mexico..will not be elected..guarenteed! remeber where you readit! will not be elected..guarenteed!it has nothing to do with hillary/obama..and you cant figure it out! liars dont really have good perception..thats why you missed the action just described! ohhh good ol boy arnie(liberal ) gonna back up his liberal buddy..juan.! big deal...zzzzzzzzzzz elvis |
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The debate was okay..nothing exceptional..except
when mc cain got booed ohhhh you didnt hear that! and romney got a applauding..ohhh you didnt hear that..of course not!the undecided gave romney a 90% rating..! ohhh you didnt see/hear that..doesnt surprise me..since your heads are so far up your anals..as usual..that you may see daylight in a couple years!
Mc mexico..will not be elected..guarenteed! remeber where you readit! will not be elected..guarenteed!it has nothing to do with hillary/obama..and you cant figure it out! liars dont really have good perception..thats why you missed the action just described! ohhh good ol boy arnie(liberal ) gonna back up his liberal buddy..juan.! big deal...zzzzzzzzzzz elvis |
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As a McCain supporter I am not crazy about McCain's continual attack on Romney with tthat one interview, but the strategy was cruel but brilliant. After months of laying down neg. attack on attack, he left himself exposed. If candidates attacked him in return he was defenseless. He had already ceded the high road.
Romney is clearly uncomfortable talking about foreign affairs and military service. Why he brought up his desire to be in the mitlitary was a terrible sign of weakness, and while the timetable charge did not have much weight, the "I can't comment because I am still governor" did. Romney could easily have just brushed off McCain with a "This is just silly" remark, but the man has some deepseated need to be the better man at everything, even in foreign affairs.Something McCain is exploiting. Meanwhile when Romney goes back to economics McCain just ignores him. Paul did a better job defensing Romney.
What I can't believe now is the crying over unfairness. Mitt dumped every penny he had into outspending all his candidates combined on negative commercials and he is surprised when they start punching back hard. Romney went on TV this morning and was crying over McCain's distortions. Crying over Huckabee. Crying over everything.
Whats wrong with the guy. He had a clear economic message that would have blown McCain out before the race began. Instead he got in a neg. match on immigration and than got played at his own game.
Romney blew it. If he just stuck to his original message he would have taken out McCain and Huck early. Instead he got played. |
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