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Tuesday, November 10, 2009
70% Of Americans Don't Think Obama Has "Clear Plan" In Afghanistan
Posted by: Jillian Bandes at 12:36 PM
Investors Business Daily attributes that percentage to the fact that Americans are still generally unsure about what to do in Afghanistan in the first place. If they aren't sure, how would they really have an idea about what Obama should be doing?

I still think it's Obama's responsibility, as the head of the U.S. military, to provide some stronger guidance.


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vladimir estragon writes: Wednesday, November, 11, 2009 2:12 PM
We have a winner
"WW2, the good war. Italy. The Italian Army pretty much was destroyed in Africa and Sicily and surrendered. Those still willing to fight joined up with the Germans, who stymied the US advance up the boot because the Germans were no slouches. Took D-Day and the march across Europe to finally beat them. So, bear with me, Marxists, here it comes- al Qaeda as a fighting force was destroyed in Iraq. The survivors went back to Afghanistan and joined up with a much better fighting force, the Taliban."

Easily the stupidest thing I have read on the internet this week. No, this month.
SJA writes: Wednesday, November, 11, 2009 9:43 AM
Kenny Z
The dems are trying to console themselves by continuing to blame Bush. As their corrupt, inept leaders destroy the country they turn a blind eye. In an earlier post you really hit the nail on the head. Obama has only one clear goal, Nothing else matters to him, his only concern is how quickly he can institute his Marxist agenda. Things like the Constitution are really just an irritant to him.
Kenny Z writes: Wednesday, November, 11, 2009 9:31 AM
Juniper
Why are you constantly trying to divert attention away from the Dems shinanigans, lies and crises creations by bringing up Bush. Your Messiah, Obama, and his minions: czars and Pelosi/Reid, are destroying America economically and morally. They are destroying the Constitution. You are a gutter-snipe.
Corndog writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 9:42 PM
Here Here Exeye

"The 3000 dead in New York are ALL ON THE DEMOCRATS!!!"

Precisely.
Exeye writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 7:00 PM
The magic of bin Ladin
See, in Nov 2000, when he discovered that George Bush was going to be the President intead of a weak, spineless Democrat named Gore, he called his best people togetehr and said, "Okay, we've got a chance here, so start planning and getting everything in place for some kind of real big terrorist atack. I dunno what, something, just pick it." So, they got together over a couple of weekends and hit us on Sep 11...

...you utter, complete and total moronic fool jackbutts of Dumbocrats- 9/11 was in planning and training for YEARS before Bush was elected! Why? Because bin Ladin recognized Clinton as a weakling, and when we elected that moron TWICE, bin Ladin concluded the whole country was just as weak. 'The weak horse,' that phrase mean anything to you Marxist crapheads? If CLINTON had done HIS job, there wouldn't have been a 9/11. By the time Bush was elected, IT WAS TOO LATE!! You GET that, you dumbf..ks? The 3000 dead in New York are ALL ON THE DEMOCRATS!!!
Baradiel writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 5:18 PM
Juniper
"Corndog
What's it like to live in the world of "24", and pretending that Bush actually DID beef up anti-terrorism efforts? Fantasies and what ifs are the games of fools, corny."

Well, considering the fact that, after 9/11, the only two muslim terrorists attack on US soil were under Obama's watch....
peacefrog writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 5:01 PM
Eugene
"White house, Bubba speaking".

Thanks my friend, haven't laughed that hard since Kaboom's kid came out of the closet.

Thanks brother
Eugene writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 4:53 PM
juniper and Kaboom
Ring.... Ring.....
"White House, Bubba speaking. What? US Embassy Bombed? 224 killed??" Ring......"Hold please, White House, Bubba speaking. Morris? Is that you?Sucking on another hookers toes? I hope Vlad doesn't find out. You dog you. Hey I got someone on the other line. Hang on. (click) Yessssss....that bombing thing? Yeah. Put Berger on it. That way if any of this goes south Sandy will be able stuff it in his socks or something like that. Now I'm busy.(click) Morris? You still there? Hey I got a new intern waiting and I can't talk long but thanks for those Monte Cristo's you just sent over. I think I know what will happen with one of them and...... (ring ring).....Damn... line 2. I'll get back to you.(click) White House, Bubba speaking. The Cole? That guy who wrote all of those songs that Frank likes to humm? Oh in Yemen (where's Yemen??) Ummmmmmmm Give it Albright. She likes that show tune $h!t almost as much as Frank does. besides if I put her on it, it will be like it never happened. (click) Whew... Operator? Can you send in that intern now?"
peacefrog writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 4:43 PM
Scepty Kaboom
Your right Clinton didn't let bin laden escape Afghanistan.

But he sure as hell let him escape the Sudan.

Moron
peacefrog writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 4:38 PM
Juniper
Givin the facts in the 6 Aug 2001 PDB Bush received how would you prevented 9/11?

Put up or shut up!
Corndog writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 4:35 PM
Juniper

I understand that 'W' did not beef up security. My question did not imply that he did. I am asking YOU as if YOU were the president and YOU had taken every precaution to defend us.

Yet despite YOUR best efforts we are still attacked (please do not deny that there are not people out there who wish to inflict mass casualties upon us).

Now for the FOURTH time, what would you do if the United States was attacked on US soil by a terrorist organization? My question to you is serious.
Corndog writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 4:29 PM
OK my fellow conservatives
You heard it first here from Juny.

"The question that you do NOT have the right to ask is how Obama would keep us safe in a post-9/11 world."

Looks like obambi isn't responsible for keeping us safe, so it's up to us. Grab your AKs, ARs, Glocs, Saigas, high cap mags, NVGs and as much ammo as you can carry, then rendezvous at the nearest mosque. It's go time.




Juniper writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 4:21 PM
Corndog
What's it like to live in the world of "24", and pretending that Bush actually DID beef up anti-terrorism efforts? Fantasies and what ifs are the games of fools, corny.
Baradiel writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 4:20 PM
Juniper
"See, this is where the disconnect is with you guys. The fact that your president didn't prevent 9/11 from happening in the first place is a failing of your leadership, and has dictated our lives here in America ever since. Not only did your leadership bungle the good will in the aftermath of 9/11, but Bush single-handedly recruited terrorists to the al qaeda network"

So, since Obama has the advantage of hindsight, why is he not using it?
sceptyczny writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 4:15 PM
Clinton didn't let Osama get out of
Afghanistan....Bush did. And Bush abandoned Afghanistan to attack a country that did nothing to us.

Which country will we attack now for the "attack" at Fort Hood?
Juniper writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 4:14 PM
Eugene
See, this is where the disconnect is with you guys. The fact that your president didn't prevent 9/11 from happening in the first place is a failing of your leadership, and has dictated our lives here in America ever since. Not only did your leadership bungle the good will in the aftermath of 9/11, but Bush single-handedly recruited terrorists to the al qaeda network.

The question that you do NOT have the right to ask is how Obama would keep us safe in a post-9/11 world. You already forfeited that right by backing the missteps of the 9/11 bungler. By the standard that your failed leadership set, the Democratic leadership now in office cannot HELP but excel where you guys failed - if only by doing the exact opposite, which is what Obama seems to be doing. 'Dithering' v. ignorant, kneejerk hubris, for example.
Eugene writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 4:00 PM
peacefrog
Yeah.

Where was Roe V. Wade when you really need it!
peacefrog writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 3:58 PM
Eugene
I get a kick out of wastes like Juniper (Sponty Kimbers new moniker). I would have prevented 9/11 from ever happening the waste squawks, but when asked how, the waste becomes deaf, dumb, and possibly blind.

What a frickin waste of sperm!
Corndog writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 3:58 PM
Nice Obfuscation Juny

Let me rephrase my question in the hypothetical since you seem to be avoiding the point.

You have beefed up the CIA, FBI, Homeland Defense, and every other entity possible to thwart an attack upon US soil, yet despite your best efforts as prez a stateless entity somehow manages to elude your dragnet and successfully executes a large scale terrorist attack on a major US city killing thousands of inocent Americans.

For the THIRD time I ask, what would you do?
Eugene writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 3:48 PM
peacefrog
Or this:

"President Clinton, we can turn Osama into dust right now. We just need the go."

Clinton: "No. I have a better idea. Let's just take out an aspirin factory. And while you're at it, get Reno on the phone so I can find out how that trial is going for those guys who bombed WTC in '93."
Starman writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 3:38 PM
juny
Your democunt guy clinton let 9/11 happen. so what.

There are radical muslims that want to kill us. I think that it is a good Idea that we zap them now, not after they kill some more Americans. What is wrong with this?

SJA writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 3:37 PM
Corndog
I have the answer to your question. What would the libs do after 9/11. Easy answer nothing but apologize to the Muslims. Apologize that we have dared to exist all these years as a great country. That will work won't it?
Exeye writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 3:32 PM
How to explain this
in a way that you Marxists will grasp? Oh, right WW2, the good war. Italy. The Italian Army pretty much was destroyed in Africa and Sicily and surrendered. Those still willing to fight joined up with the Germans, who stymied the US advance up the boot because the Germans were no slouches. Took D-Day and the march across Europe to finally beat them. So, bear with me, Marxists, here it comes- al Qaeda as a fighting force was destroyed in Iraq. The survivors went back to Afghanistan and joined up with a much better fighting force, the Taliban. That's why things have changed. We now have an end game opportunity. One big push, we get bin Ladin, spike his head, and go home. Which is the ONLY reason to be there.
peacefrog writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 3:32 PM
Juniper
Ok...How would you have prevented 9/11 from happening.

Intel...Mr. president bin laden is planning an attack on US soil. We don't know when, how, or where but all indications are it's in the works.

The balls in your court, how do you prevent the attack.

Now remember it's 2001, the walls that prevented the CIA and FBI sharing info are still in place.

Your up Sponty Juniper Kimber
Eugene writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 3:28 PM
juniper
"The question should be this instead:

"What would you have done to prevent 9/11 from happening?"

No dipstick.

The question is. "What do we need to do to is prevent another 9/11 (or another domestic terror attack) fom happening again?

First on my list is to never listen to a dopey lib like you.

Second is not to elected a wuss for CIC.

Ooooooopppps too late on number 2!

So that brings us to two more questions.

"What could Barrack Hussein Obama have done to prevent Ft. Hood or Little Rock from happening?"

and....

"What is Barrack Hussein Obama going to do to prevent Ft. Hood and Little Rock from happening again?"

Take your time.

I know your head is spinning a little bit right now.



NeoConScum writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 3:21 PM
Last Night the Beta-Male C in C
told a network interviewer(Jake Tapper, I think)that one of his most important considerations about putting additional troops in Afghanistan is that it would cost an additional $50-Billion per year.

He said this with absolutely NO sense of irony, paradox, sarcasm or twinkle of el tongue-o in el cheek-o. He was, by God, telling us Americans how concerned he is about $$-Spending!

Self-Caricature of the Mega Bunny Hole Kind.
Dennis writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 3:17 PM
Juniper
9/11 happened. Fort Hood happened. Democrats continue to pretend there is no war. Remember
that the 9/11 attackers entered the country on Clinton's watch and started training. The Fort Hood and Little Rock incidents happened on Mr. Obama's watch. Your stupid assertions that it's a war only for Republicans about Republicans is a big part of the problem. Democrats play games with national security.
Dennis writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 3:09 PM
He's thinking,
he's thinking. No word yet on why he had all the answers during the campaign, bashing Bush and McCain relentlessly, and now is clueless.
Juniper writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 3:02 PM
corndog
Listen, corny, I wouldn't have let 9/11 happen in the first place, given all the high tech warnings and obvious lines leading RIGHT to the perps in the months beforehand. Since your "after" question is just your way of pulling in the "I was too stupid to heed all the warnings" riffraff, I wouldn't even deem it a credible way to judge reasoned, thoughtful people.

The question should be this instead:

"What would you have done to prevent 9/11 from happening?" and take it from there. Living in a world of poor leadership evolving into bad policies and near total destruction of our country and the mideast is where the Rightwing seem to fit best. Stop trying to drag the rest of into your witless ditch.
An Instinctive Gesture of Reciprocal Liking writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 2:53 PM
Corn
"Palin WAS and IS more qualified than the current buffoon in chief."

Nice use of Rule 43. I'm slowing becoming convinced that Palin is the most qualified person to be CIC, ever, in the HISTORY OF MANKIND. The use of ALL CAPS is putting it over the edge.
Corndog writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 2:51 PM
Juniper, answer the fecking question

What would YOU have done after the 9/11 attack?

I have yet to have ANY libtard answer that question.
Juniper writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 2:45 PM
corndog
Obviously, it is you who falls into the category of the dimwitted. Think for a minute, Cornie. What did Bush do after 9/11 that has LED us DIRECTLY to where we are now with the world of terrorism, which has metastasized into a burgeoning, angry cancer under Bush's watch. Aggravating policies and illegal occupations sent the band of terrorists into a growing network of hate indicating that YOUR president of ignorance is solely to blame.

And now you want to pin this tragedy on President Obama? How typical, corny, of the inner workings of a wingnut. You fail at logic and brain power.
Corndog writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 2:33 PM
Juniper

Honestly, what the feck would you have done after we were attacked on 9/11?


I think this Fort Hood terrorist attack is giving us a pretty clear picture of what a dimwitcrat prez would have done on 9/11....Worry about backlash to the muslims.


Christ, what does it take to get you libtards to take up arms....force you to bathe?
Dread writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 2:32 PM
Hmm...
"Palin WAS and IS more qualified than the current buffoon in chief."

Only in greater UzBeckistan.
Juniper writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 2:24 PM
An inherited mess
Obama inherited a mess with "no clear plan", so what's the beef here? That he's yet to figure out how to clean up one of the biggest avoidable nightmares from the Bush years?

Good luck with pretending that the world started on Jan. 20, 2009. If asked, 70% of the population would tell you that it didn't, and at least 20% of the population believing it did (that would be the same 20 percenters who admit to being Republicans, of course)
Eugene writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 2:22 PM
corndog
"Palin WAS and IS more qualified than the current buffoon in chief. Too bad idiots like you can't see just how bad zero's policies are."

Not to the trolls. They want a hard core Marxist in power which of course, Palin is not.

They just lack the stones to say it.
vladimir estragon writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 2:11 PM
Alive in Him
You said Bush left a "strategy" and then you post a story about a "report." BIG difference.

For instance: was the Bush strategy one of counterinsurgency or one of counterterrorism?
Dread writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 2:10 PM
Blah
"how about this, do whatever it takes to provide non-combatants in afghanistan with a safe environment to grow their society and government."

Uh... no. Our country has too many problems of its own to devote so much time, money, and lives trying to "fix" another country. Especially a country that has resisted two great foreign empires that tried to do the same before.

How about this? We either refocus our military goal to capturing or killing Al Qaeda's senior leadership and let the Afghan warlords battle it out, or we turn the job of capturing OBL to Homeland Security and pull all of the troops out?

Corndog writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 1:50 PM
Hey Stinky Gesture of Rectum Licking

Palin WAS and IS more qualified than the current buffoon in chief. Too bad idiots like you can't see just how bad zero's policies are.
An Instinctive Gesture of Reciprocal Liking writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 1:38 PM
douglas
"PALIN WAS MORE QUALIFIED"

Rule #43 for Internet Debating: Always make ridiculous propositions in ALL CAPS to show everyone else how serious, yet stupid, you are.
AliveInHim writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 1:36 PM
Vlad
http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/10/biden-ally-says-oba ma-team-got-bushcheney-afghanistan-report-but-didnt-put-muc h-stock-in-it.html

There it is. Note that this isn't from Fox News, so you can't calim 'no cred'!
douglas writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 1:22 PM
This is why a change is needed
this country staerted with MILITARY men as presidents, and so commanded in cheif was obvious, now we get IDIOTS that havent a clue about fighting wars and are more concerned about political ramifications instead.I say its time to chane and make the top general commander in cheif and let the presidend and congress get us in and the military get us out with a win.Obama is by far the worse president ever elected on every frount, and PALIN WAS MORE QUALIFIED, I am more QUALIFIED, maybe you are too.
Exeye writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 1:14 PM
the other 30%
think he's completely clueless.
eddie too writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 1:11 PM
vlad ignores that

the situation in afghanistan in early 2008 is not the same as the situation in afghanistan now.

to develop tactics you must have a strategy to have a strategy you must have an objective.

i provided the objective. BO has not even been able to articulate or choose an objective. of course, we are having trouble developing a strategy and the necessary tactics.

if the objective i enunciated is not the one we want, there are other possible objectives.

for instance, we could establish the objective of killing all afghanis. or we could establish the objective of deserting peaceful and law-abiding afghanis to the taliban by complete and immediate withdrawal. a fourth objective could be continuing to sacrifice american military people without a final objective.

vlad and most other leftists see the life and death struggle with islam as a game. that is why they and their leader, BO, can be so glib about sacrificing the lives of americans. to them, it is only a game, kind of like health care. neither afghanistan or health care have anything to do with life and death for good people, they are just games by which we advance our power.
John writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 1:07 PM
Real Americans
know what needs to be done. Faint hearted cowardly liberals wring their hands and worry about offending someone instead of getting the job finished.
sceptyczny writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 1:04 PM
So true
many of us think we should bring the troops home. Others want to add troops. What to do..
vladimir estragon writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 1:03 PM
Alive In Him
"President Bush GAVE Obamao the strategy."

That's not even remotely true. What was Bush's position on increasing troop levels, for instance?

Now, don't fall back on the old "Sure, you're just blaming Bush" copout, OK? Just don't try telling us that there was any coherent strategy already in place in January 2009.
vladimir estragon writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 1:01 PM
Eddie
"do whatever it takes to provide non-combatants in afghanistan with a safe environment to grow their society and government."

That sounds really nice. How about this: "Nobody will ever arrive late at work." That will make our country vastly more productive.
eddie too writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 12:57 PM
vlad

how about this, do whatever it takes to provide non-combatants in afghanistan with a safe environment to grow their society and government.

if that means killing off all of the terrorists, so be it.
AliveInHim writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 12:55 PM
President Bush
GAVE Obamao the strategy. He has refused to implement it. Now, his dithering means our boys are dying in far greater numbers now than they were under Bush (Sept/Oct having the worst casualty count so far) and all anyone can say is that if the American people don't know what to do, why should Obama?


vladimir estragon writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 12:46 PM
Exactly right
"Americans are still generally unsure about what to do in Afghanistan in the first place.... so how would they really have an idea about what Obama is or should be doing?"

That hits it right on the head. The poll question was "Do you agree that the administration has a clear plan for handling the situation in Afghanistan?" and 70% said no.

What do you think the results would be if the question were, "Do you believe any person on the planet has a clear plan for handling the situation in Afghanistan"?
vladimir estragon writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 12:43 PM
eddie
"did not the commanding general in afghanistan provide such guidance to BO late last summer?"

Actually, the Afghanistan theater commander provided recommendations to the president early in 2008, recommendations which the president never acted on.
Kenny Z writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 12:43 PM
Plan
Obama only has one clear plan: Marxism as a tool for reparations!

Mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack Hussein Obama!
eddie too writes: Tuesday, November, 10, 2009 12:40 PM
did not the commanding general

in afghanistan provide such guidance to BO late last summer?
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