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..a louse is a louse. A stinker is a stinker. And a man who bears false witness is a man who bears false witness. Whatcha gonna do?! |
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...awwwww...This is sum gooooood stuffff.... |
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it is a kind of character deficiency, a lack of honor, almost, that seeks to "contextualize" the arguer rather than deal with the argument. |
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Don't lie, now. "Contextualized" is not a word I use. I may insist on a little context now and then--after all, and knock me over with a feather on this one, there are some guys in here who would isolate a phrase simply to gain some kind of polemical upper hand. Like I said, knock me over with a feather..
Actually, my preferred term is "subtext." But that is different. |
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Sarcasm is an instrument of the weak. |
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Yes, this chap is, "the wisest man". Seriously, he has me all figured out as well as the rest of you.
Let's face it, the jig is up, we best stop fooling around here.
This is serious stuff and PL has discovered exactly who I am.
I can no longer carry on the charade. He has proven his, "wiser man" argument.
He is most sensitive as well.
And stronger than all of us put together.
I'm not sure whether you all know this, but PL is the most handsome here.
Stunningly so.
Really "cuts" a pose, this man of the most character found among the threads.
Did I say, "threads"?
He is also the best dressed.
Impeccably put together, a sartorial masterpiece.
And, smart. Very smart. Not just pedestrian smart. Worldly smart. A true grasp of all issues and ideas circulating.
When you got it, you GOT it.
This cat has it.
He's the bomb.
The sooner we all recognize this, the better off we'll all be.
Gosh, I'm glad we settled this.
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Now that I got'cha...contextualized(8th Grade word I stole from ya..), I can live with youse in reasonable comfort. Very little feeding, Kitty. |
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Ya got what'cha'call a valid point there, Lad. Those stray cats take luv any way they can get it. If the food on the porch comes with cussing, they'll still take it cuz' they MUST HAVE IT.
'Hawk...You little Devil Girl! A Hemp Scarfer... Just never occurred to moi. |
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Yeah yeah yeah. I'm a mangy stray cat. Yeah yeah blah blah blah. Um, who exactly is the one feeding me? I'm feeding YOU! |
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Clarity, Neo, Seehawk;
When you feed a stray cat some milk, it'll return again and again, expecting to be fed. |
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Like I told you, your certitudes are not worth a strand of a woman's hair. So I don't really care what you are or are not "certain" of...I, for one, am aware of the gap between what I think I know and what I really know. And that's why I am the wiser man.
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You can profess all you want, postulate until the cows come home.
I am quite well aware of my strengths, my weaknesses; don't need you to play that Liberal game of, "Pin the 'tale' on the Donkey", with me. That's exclusively your game.
I know who I am, and am certain that you do not. |
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I smoked when I was younger, but not at all since I've been married (which cleared twenty years in February).
Honestly, you folks are better off trying to deal my ideas than with me. But, true to the era that spawned you, you want shortcuts, you want immediate gratification, you don't want to bother thinking, and so you turn to psychologizing. Seehawk's ludicrious post is case in point. The light that's exploding is your brain trying to get your mind around the realization that--despite your jocular demeanor and most fervent hopes--you have not thought things through. |
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Like a huge lightbulb s'ploded over my haid! He's a Hemp Scarfer! OMG. Why didn't I think of it?!
O'Lordy, does that ever s'plain alot that reason and cvonsistency couldn't. OMG.
24/7...ya figure?? |
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Until your posting bunny trail, I never even heard of Howard Zinn. You live in a world of your own devising. Maybe there are liberals of the type you describe--I am not one of them. Your strengths are that you are energetic and earnest. Your weakness is that you lack humility. |
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wrong with CONSERVATISM, is there ain't enough of it, in the Republican Party. |
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It is for this very reason, the comments about yoru 42 year old friend that George Santayana wrote:
"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember their past are condemned to repeat their mistakes.
Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors are destined to repeat them."
Morton, it is also because of this reason, we need to point out the Bill Ayers', the Ward Churchills', the myriad tenured Leftists who regularly propagandize, drumbeat into the soft skulls of college students the, LIES-of-the-Left.
They use textbooks of the Left, such as, "The World According to Howard Zinn" (1980). His textbook is the most read history text on college campuses.
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That's exactly why I think he suffers from "Reefer Madness".... most people openly understand the Leftist's tendencies to be moral relavists,revisionists of history, emotionals (EMO's) and Oprah enthusiists! PL/LP assigns those very feminine/Liberal/illogical tendencies to Conservatives,who are thinkers and logical pragmatists.The get-er done people who make a difference everyday and help others to do the same......it's transference,and a mental disorder.
But you figured that out a long time ago.;-)! |
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...the thread I referred to above where PL leveled accusations of me being, "all over the map".
You be the judge. It's rather instructive in his sophomoric behavior:
"Obama's Debate Performance", Thursday, April 17th. The final 8 posts between the "Pathetic Liberal" and myself are highly instructive (if not exhausting).
One final observation---keep in mind that although he admits to the Liberal narcissism charge I claim----according to him, "It does not apply to him".
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Has touched upon the very source of the Left's discomfort with history.
They would rather not remember it the way it occurred---hence the Howard Zinns. Given the stronghold of the Left/Liberals in academia and tenured "professorship", this has, for decades, been a cakewalk for them; spinning tales, disseminating their dogmas, teaching from the "Zinnster" (his book written in 1980) and with "pop culture" being nurtured by Liberals/Al Gore/Hollywood through Oliver Stone's "glasses" [and Oprah Winfrey's endless interviewing of "enlighted ones" (celebrities)], the sophisticated "marketing" of history is rather.
But then----Pathetic Man would say, "I'm all over the map", as he did a few days ago----WHEN, I dispensed with every one of his many points, in a single post. In fact---he became so "flummoxed" (as he accuses others of), he cavalierly brushed me off with the, "I have better things to do" crapola.
I opined that his behavior was grade-schoolgirl perfect as he turned on his heels and blew out the door, skirt aflutter and nose in the air.
He loves to "stir-it-up", while introducing many different concepts (many tangential, or, thinly related) in attempt to make a point---then accuses others of the very elements of argument which he employs.
Hence, "Pathetic Liberal". |
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That's the problem with conservatism today. It used to have some inner magnificence, a soul that linked to the ages. Now, that soul has become the target of their vulgar and grubby psychologizing. The Oprahization of America is complete, I guess. Either that, or conservatism has become so stale as a philosophy that its partisans are reduced to psychologizing ridicule. Either way, you guys are hurting..bad!! |
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gynochimp Kimberditz would believe that a lack of a court conviction confers factual innocence on an ADMITTED Terrorist Bomber, CONFESSED Terrorist Killer.
If this is all EMILYs List and Code Stink can come up with, they are in dire straights.
Now, Kimberho, go put a little ice on that lip, honey. |
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OJ Simpson wasn't convicted either! Want a hot date with the juice, baby?
Kimberstink the gynochimp would do well to be respectful of McCain....he will be her next President. |
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at its most pompous and craven. Thanks for the reminder and the wake-up call. Egomaniac with a massive, hungry, needy inferiority complex. And, lucky us through Hugh, we're the couch.
Cheers! |
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The trouble with some people is
that they do not admit their faults!
I'd admit mine...If I had any!
(big sigh...then it must be
a goodnite,... but not for
Obama, and his Marxist friends).
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Awww, Mr. "Self-Important kook" is now whining that I attacked him personally. That's rich...you hypocrite.
FYI, I was not involved in the embargo...
If you want direct, fine...you're a jerk.
If you didn't have a right hand you'd have no friends at all.
Goodnite sir..... |
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There's living memory and there's historic memory. I always say that my spirit is eight, my body is fifty, and my soul is 2500. Conservatism today has too much living memory and not enough historic memory. It is just another little Boomer self-indulgence--thinking that their glory days are the natural order of things. You see it all the time. The 50s were good. The 60s were bad. And that defines historic trajectory. Just stupid little Boomer narcissisms. |
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Actually, there are very few who refuse to talk with me now. Your stupid embargo collapsed. Why? The force of my ideas. Ideas that flummox and astound the likes of you. And since you don't like being flummoxed and astounded, you attack me personally. Good one, Mr. Christian Boy. And, btw, your little lecture about bikers and lettermen and ducks and common sense was really lame. Your problem with me is that I am too direct. I cut through your flimflam like a knife through butter.
Cheers. |
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Thanks. You guys are having way too much fun. |
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Taking us back down the memory lane of Avenida Bernardo O'Higgins and el Estadio Nacional with Neruda and Pinochet again, are you? That's kind of what this Obama candidacy is doing to us--even tho he was only 8 at the time.
And that's the problem. How can we have a president who's memory does not go back beyond 1968? |
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Yup, the same thing was "said" about Jesus. But the analogy ends there. |
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Now you know why nobody bothers to talk to this creep anymore...he's gone off the deep end.
Apparently, he had no mother to tell him not to hang around the bad kids, never went to school to notice the guys in the letter jackets tended to be the sports guys, the guys in leather tended to be bikers, etc.
The old axiom, "if it walks like a duck," etc. apparently escapes him as well.
He is proof that to be a liberal is to twist logic and common sense into something unrecognizable in order to facilitate your own argument...no matter how ridiculous.
And GOOD GOD is he ridiculous....!
Cheers...!
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pie, as regards William Ayres and Bernardine Dohrn & Co. would be a nice, romantic, poignant 'highly relevant' movie.
Warren Beatty?
Oliver Stoned?
It could be like 'Reds' or 'Motorcycle Diaries,' or wasn't there a movie about young Adolf Hitler, when he was a firebrand revolutionary? Something called 'Dolf & I,' or something nice like that.
Lefties LOVE romance, especially when the film is about a despicable commie. 'Il Postino' is a nice example. It is about that walking, breathing sack of KGB filth Pablo Neruda.
Too bad Pablo never got to have espresso with Pinochet's guys. THAT would have been exciting. |
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The point is not Barack being Jesus. The point is what people said about Jesus. And it was the same line of reasoning Paddy used.
Never you worry about the Scriptures and me. I am fine with them, like a fish in water. |
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Self important kooks are not always good with the distinction between defending themselves and pushing others around. That is a fact of nature you can take to the bank in Isla Vista. |
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Guns and God ain't all bad.
Did you hear about the lady in Florida who came home to find a humungous alligator in her kitchen today? Grab the guns and say a prayer, I say.
Not everything and everybody can be talked into being nice in this old world--no matter how much BHO wants us to believe it. |
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I just responded to a post by Joe linking to a Dean Barnett article re: Obama. And now it disappeared.
BTW, PatLib: Jesus hung out with prostitutes and tax collectors in "hope of changing" them into becoming like Him. No evidence that Obama was calling Ayers, Dohrn, Wright et al to change their ways. Yeah, he condemns them once he's called on it. But, when he might have called them to repentance, he seemed A-OK with their positions.
Be careful using Jesus to make your point. Barack is not Jesus, my friend, even tho some may confuse him with the Second Coming. |
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As a responsible gun owner, I am prepared to DEFEND myself or someone I care about in a situation for which I have been trained.
PL is on his own.... |
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...about 15 or 20 years of seasoning. It's his immaturity and lack of real life experience that makes him seem so clueless.
I just listened to 3 hours of HH talking to Doug Pike about his new book re: the run-up to the Iraq War. The complexities and internecine struggles among the different US agencies were mind boggling.
It appeared to me that many of the problems we faced and still face were caused by a lack of good quarter-backing and strong leadership by George W (although Pike didn't say this). No way is BHO prepared to be POTUS.
No way would a first term senator of Barack's experience be looking at the possibility of being the next PONTUS if he/she were not black. I don't care how good his grades at Harvard were--or how likeable he was.
There is no evidence to convince me that he could any way cut it. Very scary. |
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is probably armed, so you might want Paddy near. |
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Whatever. At least no one needs to fear the image of me with a prayer on my lips and a gun raised to my eyes. |
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....that people with your reasoning ability are walking the streets.
Man.....!
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Appetite. Unquinchable thirst. Perpetual Need.
Ask Paddy, me or Clarity...We know the Psychotic Pathology of Blovie far better than he, himself. And, it will TORTURE him. Which is Good. :-) |
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You're a Christian, right?! When Jesus hung out with the prostitutes and the tax collectors, did that make him a prostitute or a tax collector? You are being ridiculous. We are human beings and we associate with human beings--which is another way of saying that we are morally fallible people who associate with other morally fallible people. |
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every danged day! Thanks Joe, for the Hayden post from the Comrades' Magazine(The Nation).
Oh, yeaaaaah, O'Bammy, nuthin' like having one of the Founders of SDS, Tommy Hayden, come out slamming about how wrong and unfair Hillary is. Works for moi!
The BS from John NICE GUY McCain about stopping the N.Carolina ads with Rev.Jeremiah and Billy Ayers irritates me, Big Time. They, to their credit, AIN'T gonna pull the ads, but--Jeeeeezzzzzzz--John, put a lid on it and, at least, let others play some Hardball!! |
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What these brainiacs can't seem to grasp is that if you walk out of a smoke filled room with a bunch of dopers, you should not be surprised when people assume that you are a doper too!
Even if you're not, you give a poor impression.
Duh..... |
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Padddy has no idea how much dope I've smoked. But I do. If you are wondering what PL is thinking, why don't you ask him yourself? Or are you afraid.. |
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Smart on that company you're keeping.
Has PL smoked so much dope he thinks Conservatives (I think he calls us reep boomers or some such) are really Libs from the 60's.....? |
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Thanks. I've read the Swift essay too. And Lord knows, there would be tons of fuel.. |
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Ayers and Dohrn are not liberal, socialist or even radical. They, and their comrades, are violent revolutionaries who sought to overthrow the U.S. government by means of force. They have never renounced that philosophy nor the means they utilized to accomplish their goal. I have yet to hear from them that they are repentant, a necessary condition for forgiveness. If they were to take similar actions today, they would be in danger of being declared enemy combatants. These are the people Obama won't criticize because he was only 8 years old when they made the decision to declare war on the U.S. A war that may be declared still. |
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A modest proposal from Patriotic Liberal to solve the energy crisis by harvesting the biggest assets of Boomers:
"Maybe use their body fat for fuel or something like that?!" |
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In no way do I buy Senator Obama's line that his friend's, Bill Ayers, radicalism is past history. But there is a way to test this assertion.
I live in Denver. I am watching with fascination, which as the months roll by will no doubt turn to horror, at the plans being made by various radical
wannabes to conduct protests at the National Democratic Convention. It looks like somebody wants to recreate the "Days of Rage".
So this is what somebody needs to ask the "Godfather of Revolution". Just ask Mr. Ayers what he thinks of the plans for Denver? |
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Sorry, didn't have time to check the link. What, was he advocating erradicating Boomers? Maybe use their body fat for fuel or something like that?! |
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you sound just like the local NC GOP folks
running that ad. And you can bet it's just the
tip of the iceberg....
just be honest, you don't care what it takes,
just as long as you win, right? |
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It was a joke. Buckley had a fictional program where Boomers were given incentives to commit suicide. It was a play on Swift's 19th cen. Modest Proposal to deal with the Irish famine (that involved Ted Turneresqe canibalism). |
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Now you know why I would never hang out with brob....! |
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Look, we all know that the Glamour race is the Presidential one. By now, most Pubs, some Indies, none of the Dems(LOL) care about the radicalism of Obama and even the Hildabeast. The Messiah is slipping but the real races are down ticket House and Senate races. In Miss. and La., there are two safe Red Pub districts which may go Dem next month! That is why Pubs better think about the down ticket races right now. McCain might beat both of these terrible incompetent socialist pacifists but down ticket races will determine the Congressional response to any of his agendas. And oh, btw, the ad in NC is not racist. It simply states that Obama's pastor as well as Obama is too extreme for NC voters. And btw, that is true if anyone knows those districts outside of Duke and NCState. |
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The solution to SS is easy: extend the retirement age to 75. People live longer than back in the 30s.
Medicare is a bit tougher. Eventually, economic competitiveness will force our country to nationalize healthcare.
It's not rocket science. No one is going to gin up a "crisis" simply to advance a political agenda. Social insurance is here to stay.. |
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Boomers better watch their backs! There is a way to solve the Medicare and social security mess they may not particularly like!
Christopher Buckley made a modest proposal: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/19/books/19masl.html |
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My momma always said, you know someone by the company they keep.
Obama's choice of friends, associates, board members, and donor-supporters is a miasma--a swamp filled with people mainstream left and right of center Americans do not like, and will not stomach when they pull a lever or punch a card in a general election. Especially if they come to believe that the person asking for their vote has been lying to them about who he is.
Hugh and others (my self included) used to think McCain had no chance again the younger, more charismatic Obama. With his thin pro-America veneer wiped away, it is becoming more obvious that Obama is not only beatable, but that an electoral rout--a down-ticket, old fashioned butt kicking of the 1984 variety--is possible.
P.S. Who is making sure these tapes get to Howard Wolfson?
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..there's nothing America wants more these days than hear a bunch of Boomer conservatives prattle endlessly about their glory days. |
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To use the current terminology, Hillary people are bitter people, even more bitter than the white working-class voters Barack has talked about. Because they circle the wagons so tightly, they don't recognize how identical, self-reinforcing and out-of-touch they are.
To take just one example, the imagined association between Barack Obama and Bill Ayers will suffice. Hillary is blind to her own roots in the sixties. In one college speech she spoke of ecstatic transcendence; in another, she said, "Our social indictment has broadened. Where once we exposed the quality of life in the world of the South and the ghettos, now we condemn the quality of work in factories and corporations. Where once we assaulted the exploitation of man, now we decry the destruction of nature as well. How much long can we let corporations run us?"
She was in Chicago for three nights during the 1968 street confrontations. She chaired the 1970 Yale law school meeting where students voted to join a national student strike again an "unconscionable expansion of a war that should never have been waged." She was involved in the New Haven defense of Bobby Seale during his murder trial in 1970, as the lead scheduler of student monitors. She surely agreed with Yale president Kingman Brewster that a black revolutionary couldn't get a fair trial in America...
Most significantly in terms of her recent attacks on Barack, after Yale law school, Hillary went to work for the left-wing Bay Area law firm of Treuhaft, Walker and Burnstein, which specialized in Black Panthers and West Coast labor leaders prosecuted for being communists. Two of the firm's partners, according to Treuhaft, were communists and the two others "tolerated communists".
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080505/hayden
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http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080505/hayden
Read this nugget by Tom Hayden in the Nation. It made me laugh. Hayden is throwing the radical gauntlet down in front of Hillary. Neo, you will especially like it. |
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I'm just warning 'us', that we've got alot of work ahead to put a face on sixties/seventies radicalism. |
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Good link, thanks. Morton, read it and forward to your friends. |
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Why in God's name do people like Ayers stay in this country and feed the capitalist system?
He is disgusted with who we fundamentally are and that's not going to change. So why stay and be a hypocrite? |
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Less than 50-somethings will care once they start hearing the facts. Dorhn/Ayres are true sickos and any candidate that would come within a mile of them needs to have his head examined. Obama keeps piling on the doubt to his supposed brilliance with associations with psychotics like this. |
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true, he's unqualified to be president.
however, the good guys must be watched very carefully, too. i read in the wsj today that some in the gop were posturing a case for carly fiorina as veep. although more qualified than either marxist in the commie party she is not a good choice by any means for the gop.
no matter who is elected the patriotic remnant must keep up our guard, especially if johnny mac is elected.
it seems as if every day is a jump ball for the future of the country. |
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On Bill Ayers blog:
http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/episodic-notorie ty-fact-and-fantasy/
An piece he writes trying to refute the idea that he is an “unrepented terrorist”
“Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolution –a revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, and cooperation and the common good- must win.
“A revolution is not a dinner party, or writing an essay, or painting a picture, or doing embroidery; it cannot be so refined, so leisurely and gentle, so temperate, kind, courteous, restrained and magnanimous. A revolution is an insurrection, an act of violence by which one class overthrows another.” (Mao Zedong)
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Do you think the Swiftboat Vets for Truth worried that no one remembered them?
The right wing attack machine just needs to do their job.;-) |
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I just had lunch with a 42 year old, conservative (pro-choice), high tech guy educated at the Univ. of Wisconsin. Never heard of:
- Ayers
- Dohrn
- SDS (or the Students for Democratic Society)
- the Chicago 8
- the Weather Underground (or men)
- Jerry Rubin, Abbie Hoffman
- Bombs, Killed poicemen
- Yippies
My point, as outraged as I am about both Obama's AND Clinton's personal ties to radicals, terrorists, et al, most people under the age of 50 don't remember, and really don't give a hoot.
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/0 00/015/020phhvb.asp
I do not know Obama's classmates like Dean does, but I have a similar impression. Barak Obama is a likeable guy. A magnacumlaude not only at Harvard Law, but also in Dale Carnegie. But he is not particularly deep on poltical policy and if his knee jerk reaction is mostly liberal. That does not bode well.
And Barak Obama's lack of judgment in courting people like Ayers and Dorhn is somewhat troublesome. Does it make him a marxist or terrorist, no of course not. But it shows Barak Obama might lack common sense. |
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