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Does this scare you? McCain is not going to appoint conservative Judges!!! He bashes everyone but left leaners. |
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This whisper campaign against McCain is nuts. John McCain fought for Alito's confirmation said he wished he could clone him and Roberts. McCain even said he would pick conservative strict constructionist and originalist jurists and if they rule against legislation he passed or supported, so be it. |
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Conservatives can watch him like a hawk on judicial appointments and demand he go conservative. McCain has been absolutely consistent on this. Go back and read what he said at the time. This is really scurillous what these "sources" are doing (note that one of Novak's sources is a Romney supporter). However, if Hillary or Obama are president--you have zero leverage. Do you want to give the Supreme Court bench to the Democrats? Mitt Romney will lose the general.
Every Republican (even Ron Paul) will appoint decent judges. The days of steath liberals like Souter are over--everyone for the Supreme Court (even the Court of Appeals) will be vetted and vetted hard. But if you lose the general, the Dems get to choose. |
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Ask yourself Townhall readers: Can you trust this analyst to give you the straight scoop on judicial appointments?
As Professor Bainbridge warns: When a pundit tells you McCain can’t be trusted to appoint conservative judges, ask the pundit whether he or she supported Harriet Miers. If so, remind yourself to consider the source. http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/punditry/comments/mccain_ judges_and_pundits/
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So Hugh is laying down the gauntlet. No Mitt, no talk radio support in the general.
How pathetic. How sad. I guess we will now see the power of talk radio to destroy a Republican candidate.
I am glad also that Hugh has spread the word to Huck and Guiliani supporters. Support Romney or you are a RINO.
So threats, insults and intimidation is the way talk radio gets people to join their cause.
I don't think it will work, but of course they can still submarine McCain and give the win to the Dems.
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There's two choices, ladies and gentlemen:
1. Eventually get over "it", (whatever it happens to be for you)
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2. Sit back and enjoy your righteous indigestion and watch a democrat easily slither back into the WH...
We have no idea what kind of justices Willard "Mitt" Romney would appoint, as his core values (so's to speak) do not remain for more than a single election cycle. His only certainty is that *whatever* is most politically expedient, Mitt will eventually get there.
He proves this time and time again. Need I provide examples of his 180 degree swings on:
1. ProChoice -to- ProLife
2. No Gay Marriage -but- *ALWAYS* Pro Gay Rights (Whatever that special status, *other than marriage* means)
3. Fiscal Conservative- Big Programs promised to MI voters
And on, and on and on.
Mitt has no win. Let's move on.
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Novak's piece was hardly anti-McCain.
Novak's sources were hardly objective - neither were McCain supporters - one had even endorsed Romney.
Third - even if McCain said that he doesn't like judges that wear their ideology on their sleeve - so what? Isn't that the conservative POV?
Michael Medved has a great piece today about how McCain sponsored the legislation protecting talk-radio from the fairness doctrine 6 months ago. Now McCain did this at the height of when talk-radio was crucifying him over his principled border security legislation.
That is McCain. He is not an ideologue. He will be a Commander in Chief who leads according to HIS conservative principles - hot Hugh's - not Rush's - not even Goldwaters.
In this way he is very much like Reagan. Reagan's son, Michael, said last night that he didn't think it was likely that Ronald Reagan could get the nomination this year because of people like Rush and Hugh who would have exposed all of the tax increases and other bipartisan compromises Reagan made as Governor of California.
I think Mike Reagan nailed it and this should be a wake up call to those who claim to be Reagan Republicans.
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The real difference between Romney and McCain is that Romney sacrificed his money for the Presidency, while McCain has sacrified his integrity.
For what doth it profit a man... |
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"...If the Huckabee supporters are conservatives, they will recognize the peril to their party's core beliefs and abandon their favorite who has no chance of winning in favor of Mitt Romney who does".
Hugh - why not ask Romney to drop out and ask his supporters to vote for Huck and give him a real chance to win??? I mean the goal is to keep McCain out, right and this would also accomplish that. |
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Fighting entitlement expansion should be a core conservative fiscal princial. McCain did that on the Medicare debate a few years ago. McCain acted like a true conservative.
Mitt attacked McCain for that vote to pander to Florida retirees.
Then Mitt said last night that he will fight entitlements?
Which is it Mitt? Are you for entitlement expansion or against it. I guess it depends who your audience is. |
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Let's not pretend like McCain is just as conservative as Romney. He used class warfare rhetoric and will appoint more liberal judges.
What people will shortly come to understand about Romney is that his message about family is what makes this country strong. He has the ability to articulate it in the general election and give people that Reaganesque feel-good feeling about doing the right thing.
Conservatives and Republicans are worried that the country has shifted to the left and will not elect another social conservative - McCain seems to be right down the middle in a general election, but Romney has the ability to bring conservatives together and form a majority in this country. He will remind people that we don't have to give up our values and that families make up the strength of this country. |
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"Expect the talkers, led by Rush but seconded by Ingraham, Bennett, Prager, Beck, Hannity, Levin and me to spend the next few days putting down a marker: McCain is a very weak general election candidate, and if he was to win, would not govern as a conservative in any significant way. Our audiences are not, as MSMers like to imply, not only shrinking but mindless. They are growing, but they are incredibly independent of thought. They also take in and respond to good information, and now the information will be focused on John McCain and the choice before them."
Just remember this Hugh Hewitt - the man you will attack over the next few days is so principled that he sponsored the legislation protecting talk-radio from the fairness doctrine.
If you audiences are not shrinking why could you not stop McCain's victory in two very conservative states: South Carolina and Florida?
It's okay Hugh and Rush - we will keep you around - there will be a need for your banter once you realize who the real enemy is after McCain wins the nom.
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/8235.html
Mike Huckabee won 45% of the black vote in Arkansas, the women voters in a focus group (see above) overwhelmingly picked Huckabee and a focus group done by Frank Luntz was the same way. He is the best communicator of the group. What happens if, now that California is paying attention, they take a second look at Huckabee and he surpasses Romney? In Hugh's State? WOW! |
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Only conservative justices will hand down decisions conducive to letting the executive win the war on terror. The same kinds of justices who would overturn Roe are exactly the same kinds who will refrain from meddling with the president's war powers. When McCain says Alito is "too conservative," he's again demonstrating his limited intellect. He needs more Alitos in order to continue wiretapping programs, to prevent giving terrorists habeas corpus rights, and on and on.
I do not want this man in charge of waging the terror war. He would bring a checkers mind to a 3-dimensional chess game. |
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“The real difference between Romney and McCain is that Romney sacrificed his money for the Presidency, while McCain has sacrified (sic) his integrity.”
So what you are saying cyndu is that Romney knew going into this election that he would lose? You don't think Romney thought he was using his money as a wise investment? Romney is so financially stupid that he didn't care if he threw away 80 million dollars of his own money?
The real difference is that McCain served his nation will Mitt served his own self-interests.
"For what doth it profit a man... "
Exactly... how much money again has Romney profited by his career choices? What does it say about the rich man again? Or does the book of Mormon censor out those passages?
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We in turn appreciate your appreciation of our skepticism.
Why is it that the anti-McCain right is so similar to the anti-Republican left? Everything about McCain is always so “deeply disturbing,” or “chilling,” or “frightening.” It’s never just a straightforward dislike of his policies. It’s always this fearful talk that’s reminiscent of the way the left was so scared about John Ashcroft supposedly wanting to dig through their library records.
I’m used to this kind of paranoid wishmongering from the left. It’s common practice for the left to claim to feel frightened by the mere existence of Bush, Cheney, Goldwater, J Edgar Hoover, Ashcroft, Meese, etc., and to try to win arguments by citing their cowardice as evidence of something other than their own paranoia. But it’s unusually lame to see this strategy employed by self-proclaimed conservatives. |
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Chair don't lie - that was not what Fund said that McCain supposedly said. He supposedly said that Alito wore his ideology on his sleeve.
There's a big difference there. 2 years ago I would have asked you to email Hugh Hewitt so that he, a law professor, could explain that difference.
But Hugh is on a sabbatical from reason. Try emailing on this question in about 6 months!
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because McCain is a patriot and conservative!
It’s important to me as a talk show host and as an American that John McCain has already stood up to defend conservative talk radio even while its most prominent practitioners used their microphones to defame the man every day. A lesser politician might easily succumb to the temptation to deploy government power – or even the threat of government power – to silence the chorus of hysterically strident voices raised against him. McCain’s refusal to do so says something powerful about his character.
http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/2405e0d8-5811-4f8b -9fd3-9bda5545726e
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Mitt flipped in the debate itself. Two days ago in Florida, Mitt was attacking John McCain for voting against the medicare expansion. All conservatives should have howled against it. Yet in the debate last night, Mitt claimed we have to control entitlements because they eat up 60% of the federal budget (and growing).
The perfect McCain comeback would have been--"If fighting entitlement expansion is so important Governor Romney, why did you attack me for it two days ago in Florida?”
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Surely Joe you have seen this?
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDEzYzkxNDMzMWNlOT BiYWZhY2FiZjUzOWYyMjdlNGU=
But perhaps you agree with the Senator that it is right to question the patriotism of millions of Americans who make this country better in avenues other than the military? Perhaps all the millions of Americans who are good people and go out every day and earn an honest living and support their families just don't understand how to be patriotic.
McCain reminds me more and more of Julius Ceasar every time he uses that line, and that isn't a good thing. |
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I agree with you 80% of the time - that's good enough for me. The same is with McCain. I agree with him about 80% of the time, which is why I will support him if he ends up being the nominee. |
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History Folks it is repeating!!
Ike - War Hero, Deal making politician gave us the Warren court after Ike sold his political soul. = The most despicable supreme court the Warren court.
McCain Not nearly the same war hero, but deal making politician that has proven he has sold his soul to be elected and he will give SCOTUS to the leftists. Possibly worse than the Warren court.
These comments continue to prove it. |
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McTex, Joe, et al:
I'm just curious if you think the McCain hammering by these guys will continue after Romney is finished next week. This is what I'm most curious about. In addition to 90% of the NRO writers (minus Victor Davis Hanson, who has a great article up on the far-right's efforts to lose this election). Plus Powerline, Captain, Malkin, all of them.
Will the onslaught continue once McCain is the nominee?
The problem as I see it is that McCain doesn't want to extend them the slightest olive branch. I think they might grab on, but he is a stubborn ole fart... |
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I see Hugh is begging again for Huckabee supporters who he has insulted for weeks saying they are hicks and stupid Evangelicals. Now you are begging for thier help by telling them if they are smart they will drop the one remaining true conservative in the race for Romney! Talk to your budy Michael Savage, he even admits Romney is a RINO. Add to the fact that Huckabee is in much better shape for Super Tuesday wins then Romney (5 to 7 possible wins vs. Romney's 2) and it makes no sense to drop Hucakbee. Also, if you think Huckabee supporters will help Romney after all the smear attacks and dirty politics you are truly dillusional. It simply won't happen.
The only way McCain will be stopped now is if Romney supporters follow the advice of Duncan Hunter (who without doubt was the most conservative GOP candidate we had):
“I got to know Governor Huckabee well on the campaign trail,” Huckabee said in a statement. “Of the remaining candidates I feel that he is strongly committed to strengthening national defense, constructing the border fence and meeting the challenge of China’s emergence as a military superpower that is taking large portions of America’s industrial base.
“Along with these issues of national security, border enforcement and protecting the U.S. industrial base, I see another quality of Mike Huckabee’s candidacy that compels my endorsement,” he added. “Mike Huckabee is a man of outstanding character and integrity. I saw that character over the last year of campaigning and was greatly impressed. The other Republican candidates have many strengths and I wish them all well.”
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You may have made a point if you had not endorsed Romney.
How can you not see how much of a hypocrite you are by making such a ridiculous argument?
No one believes Mitt Romney is a real conservative. We look at his words and actions over the last 10 years and know that speaks for itself.
You may be naive enough to believe that he has changed his position on EVERY MAJOR issue but we are not. A conservative would never claim that he was not a Reagan Republican the way Romney did. A conservative would never say he is more pro-gay rights than Ted Kennedy the way Romney did. A conservative wouldn't hire illegal aliens to cut his grass. A conservative would not be so cowardly as to say that he refuses to give an opinion about the Surge. A conservative wouldn't favor private timetables for withdrawal. I can go on and on.
To make matters worse Romney has a history of changing his beliefs right before an election as has been documented by the Boston papers. Need I remind you that the very conservative Boston Herald did not endorse their home state candidate? Who again did they endorse? Who did McCain's home state endorse?
McCain was right last night when he said that Mitt should have simply said NO about timetables. But Mitt is a pandering politician and he wasn't sure how the wind was blowing at that time so he pandered.
And you have the audacity to claim he is more conservative?
Look - I don't care if you are a Romney supporter - I am happy Romney has chosen to be a Republican. But don't lie about who the man is when we all can see for ourselves the truth!
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Every time I visit this site, a couple of times per day between seeing patients (I work for a living) I am amazed at the number of the Pajama Crowd contributes to this blog with stupid comments. The vitriol against Hugh tells me either he is quite stupid or he really gets you where it counts! I find his comments quite interesting, insightful, well thought out, and intelligent.
After watching last night's debate even the CNN focus group thought McCain was not very "Presidential." From a "clinical" perspective, it appears to me that McCain has a personality disorder that borders on mental illness. I don't mind someone with different ideas who can articulate and communicate them effectively. However, when the answer to every question is the same "one liner," then it illustrates the lack of depth and understanding he has. I am quite frankly tired of listening to the fact that he was an American hero. I think he is now an American Idiot running for President. He will be eaten alive by the Democrats.
The only person who has a chance against the Democrats is Romney. Romney is articulate, speaks clearly about what he believes in, will be able to take on Hiliary and the Obama machine, and beat them. Anyone with a 4th grade education or higher should be able to figure this out! |
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That McCain will appoint more conservative judges than Ronald Reagan did. |
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Not lying. Read the entirety of the Novak repost above.
McCain doesn't care about an originalist constitution. He praised O'Connor for crying out loud! Read Casey v. Planned Parenthood, why don't you. Her jurisprudence is incoherent, rambling and unpredictable. |
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...or last year, when McCain pointed that out. Or in the next Congress, which is 99% certain to have a Democrat Senate.
Adults don’t shoot the messenger. McCain was right that ethanol is not a magical oil substitute, and mature Iowa voters didn’t really punish him for it. He was right that the rest of the country can’t be expected to pay for Florida’s bad weather, and sensible Florida voters – and even the governor – rewarded him for his honesty. He was right that the golden age of Detroit is over and we can’t turn the clock back to 1958. But too many Michigan voters preferred to believe that if they voted for the son of the prez of AMC that he’d send Detroit a $20B handout at our expense as he promised.
So in 2007 McCain pointed out another unpalatable truth: thanks to the GOP squandering the Senate majority, we can no longer get an open conservative like Alito past a committee controlled by Leahy and Schumer. We’ll have to settle for a stealth candidate and hope he is indeed a Roberts as McCain wants and not a Souter like our last New England president gave us. That’s just a fact, and McCain is to be praised for clearly dealing with the world as it is rather than some fantasy world. |
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Reagan made two mistakes, but hit a homerun with Scalia. I doubt McCain will appoint a single justice as conservative as Scalia. He won't do it. If that's your bet, I'll take it and so will others. |
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Young- mark my words – these same people will be McCain’s loudest cheerleaders once he is the Party’s only candidate.
Your analysis was spot on, btw.
"The problem as I see it is that McCain doesn't want to extend them the slightest olive branch. I think they might grab on, but he is a stubborn ole fart..."
I think McCain will remedy this as you rightly say he needs to do. It was revealed today that McCain has asked to speak to the CPac Convention in a couple of weeks.
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That's the grade Mark Halperin of Time gave Mitty boy. |
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If we couldn't confirm Alito today, it's McCain's fault for Gang of 14. That wasn't just a difference in tactics... He threw the game. |
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I'll take your bet.
McCain is very close to Jon Kyl and I believe that Kyl would be his first pick. |
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I would rather have a judge that is faithful to the constitution, not conservative (or liberal) ideology.
Alito, Roberts, and Scalia are far too trusting of government authority to make me want more of them in place.
I will, however, take another Thomas or two. |
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Dobson:
"Speaking as a private individual, I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstances. … [Legislation to create obstacles for ministries such as Focus on the Family to reach constituents with action messages about pending legislation] came from McCain, and the McCain Feingold Bill kept us from telling the truth right before elections and there are a lot of other things. He’s not in favor of traditional marriage, and I pray that we won’t get stuck with him."
http://race42008.com/2007/01/14/evangelical-frontman-dobson -says-never-to-mccain-08/
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OMG you nothing about Arizona politics. She is one of our greatest icons. She is highly reveared.
No Arizona politician attacks her and walks away. Like her centrist positions or not - she voted against the Florida Supreme Court btw - she is one of our own and has recently had some sad news. McCain was not about to attack her. |
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"Either Romney didn't fully assimilate what these military experts were telling him, or he just decided that the political risks of embracing their ideas were simply too high. Either way, the notion that Romney was out of the loop on the arguments that folks like Fred Kagan were desperately making, at the top of their lungs, throughout 2006 - as he tried to suggest when asked for his opinion on Iraq in December 2006, as recently recounted by Steve Hayes - simply isn't true. He got the brief - and he chose to ignore it.
"McCain also got the brief - and in contrast to Romney, he understood it, embraced it, and then fought for it with every ounce of political capital he had at his disposal."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/CampaignStandard/2008 /01/mccain_romney_and_the_surge_co.asp |
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Since Romney is not using his money to buy ads for Super Tuesday, his one advantage in stopping McCain is gone. Mitt needs to drop out this week to give Huckabee a chance to stop McCain.
Mitt's pride will probably not let him drop out or maybe McCain has promised him a cabinet position if he says in for Super Tuesday but stops his attack ads.
At this point only Huckabee has a chance to stop McCain, but only if Mitt drops out this week.
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Having Hugh on your side is becoming the kiss of death.
As Mac, Huck, Rudy, Arnold, Crist, and tons of others now come together, social conservatives and military patriots, plus realistic fiscal conservatives, it appears RINO is being redefined and Hugh and those willing to support flip floppers are the new RINO's.
A new populist brand of conservatism is on the rise now that cares about the average man and woman rather than scorn them. Being pushed to the edges are the strident voices of Hugh, Rush, Sean, Coulter and others who tried to divide our grand old party by mis-characterizations of other conservatives. Mitt made his bed with them. And only he had the skill to lose despite all their support. Why? Because voters are rejecting this negative aggressive style of chattering elites trying to tell us who is a conservative. |
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John McCain came out early in support of Samuel Alito's nomination to the Supreme Court. He worked behind the scenes to generate more support from his colleagues. He pointed to his 2000 campaign promise to appoint conservative judges as one reason he was pleased with the Alito nomination. He spoke on the Senate floor in favor of Alito's confirmation. He even spent several months campaigning for president telling people Samuel Alito was one of the "finest justices ever appointed to the Supreme Court."
The inescapable conclusion? A President McCain would not appoint Supreme Court Justices like Samuel Alito.
We know this because in the days before the potentially decisive Florida primary, someone (we don't know who) claimed to have heard McCain (we don't know where) say that he was concerned about Alito's conservatism (we don't know when).
I understand the conservative objections to John McCain and I'm sympathetic to many of them, including his willing participation in the so-called Gang of 14.
But this is scurrilous.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/CampaignStandard/2008 /01/hayes_mccain_and_alito.asp |
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Yeah, I know all that. McCain really likes her, though, and I think he'd pack the court with her like. My opinion, but I think it's right. Given his record of the past several years, and many public remarks, I don't trust him to appoint justices who are sufficiently originalist.
Moreover, every time McCain lists his favorite circle of advisers, all I hear is a list of centrist weenies. None of them would advise him to appoint an Alito. You can expect justices who would most likely uphold his views:
-closing Guantanamo & giving terrorists habeas
-upholding speech restrictions in McCain-Feingold
-upholding crap legislation and regulation on global warming
-disallowing Congressional banning of birthright citizenship
-upholding law of the sea treaty
These are my worries, and more, and they're justly founded. |
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John McCain will be a disaster for America if nominated and if he wins the Presidency.
This man will turn on Conservatives and revert to his standard M.O. like a junk yard dog.
How many times do Republicans have to be reminded about these things?
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People keep saying Huckabee is only staying in to audition for VP on the McCain ticket.
Did you watch and listen to the debate last night?
Huckabee is his own man. He is in this to win until he has no chance to do so. There are plenty of delegates left to win. After Super Tuesday, everyone will know who has a statistical chance to win.
If you think for yourself, please watch the debate again and ask yourself who was the most presidential. I think you have to conclude it was Huckabee. He has experience and wisdom...and he genuinely seems to respect the humility needed to ascend to this job. McCain has a sense of entitlement. Romney seems like this is something he wants on his resume. On top of being a bit jittery, he does indeed strike you as an empty suit who is ready to take marching orders from the rich and powerful.
Save the Republican Party and vote for Huckabee on Super Tuesday and beyond. |
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JOE SCARBOROUGH:
Let me tell you what a conservative is not:
A conservative is not a man that calls tax cuts that George Bush passed that revived the economy "tax cuts for the rich." That is not a conservative.
A conservative is not a man who is one of two Republicans standing alone in Washington, DC voting against those tax cuts that every other Republican supported in Washington, DC. That is not a conservative.
A conservative is not a man that teams up with Teddy Kennedy to produce a bill that is nothing short of amnesty that would allow 12 million illegal immigrants to attain legal status the day after John McCain's bill and Ted Kennedy's bill becomes law. That is not a conservative.
A conservative is not somebody that goes on Tim Russert's show a couple of weeks ago and says if that amnesty bill that would allow 12 million illegal immigrants to become citizens [legal residents] the next day, he does not go on that show and say "yes, I would sign that bill, but don't worry, it's not going to come to my desk." That is not a conservative.
A conservative is not a man who says he wants to increase taxes maybe 50 cents per gallon on the American people, trying to push through a bill that the rest of the world won't sign onto. That is not a conservative.
Concluded Scarborough: "I could go on forever and ever."
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/31/video-mccain-righteou sly-demolished-by-joe-scarborough/ |
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Way to go Dr D. I agree!
Whacker who the heck cares what Time gave anyone?
Joe - you are going to the funny farm.
This is a sweet link and a wonderful family, sorry that we can't have a descent man representing our country. But no. We will have a foul mouthed idiot, who thinks it's his turn. Maybe Hillary will ask him to be vp for her.
Ann Romney, Christmas 2006
Video:
Ann Romney, wife of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, invites viewers in for an unusual look at the Romney household...and one of the most momentous decisions a family could make.
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid980289835/bct id1044486836
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As a classical liberal well versed on the teachings of the Founding Fathers and Colonial American History - a political science major and history major - and a political operative that has achieved 6 conservative election victories in the last 2 years - your analysis is dead on.
I used to think I was a right wing Republican until I met other so-called right-wingers. I quickly realized that we were different sorts. They were nativist, inclinde to emotion-based deductions and enjoyed making sophistic argumentations. How like the left they are I concluded.
This election will weed their influence from the party and that is the best news we have in many many years. It will allow us to become the majority Party for generations if we properly capitolize on our new leadership by actively bringing in the latino and socially-conservative black voters and letting them know, fully, that they will always be at home in our Party.
The nativist-wing can join Perot and Buchanan! |
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"The real difference between Romney and McCain is that Romney sacrificed his money for the Presidency, while McCain has sacrified his integrity."
Hardly a surprise. McCain had little money to sacrifice, and Romney has even less integrity. You go into battle with the army you have... |
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All McCain has to do is give us conservatives his short list (top ten) of US Supreme Court nominees so we can vet them.
A great time to do this is when he speaks at CPAC.
Second crucial thing he needs to do to get conservative support is to sign the NumbersUSA pledge to stop illegal invasion and NOT to give ANY kind of Amnesty/Rewards to illegal invaders.
So Joe if you really think we can trust McCain on these issues please contact his campaign and ask them to do just these two things.
I commit to voting for McCain if he will commit to giving us his top ten list of US Supreme Court nominees and signs the pledge to not reward illegal invaders with ANY kind of Amnesty.
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At least according to Drudge: EXCLUSIVE: NANCY REAGAN FOR MCCAIN, TOP SOURCE TELLS DRUDGE: 'SHE ADORES HIM, AND IS FULLY SUPPORTING HIM IN HER PRIVATE LIFE. |
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So you dont think he would appoint Kyl to the court?
Actually I think you do lol.
"-closing Guantanamo & giving terrorists habeas
-upholding speech restrictions in McCain-Feingold
-upholding crap legislation and regulation on global warming
-disallowing Congressional banning of birthright citizenship
-upholding law of the sea treaty"
I don't like some of this as well but at the end of the day it is insignificant. The significant issues like the War on Terror, ending pork, limiting the size of govt, reducing spending are what matters. On those issues you know McCain is in the right and has been for his political career.
Romney has not been in the right, has a career of being wrong about those issues and only recently converted to your POV.
Please explain why the hell such pandering doesn't scare you? |
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Without conservative voters. He will never get to nominate any judges. |
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It's not just the MSM clearing the path for McCain (and we all know why) it is also the pro-amnesty crowd in the GOP. They didn't much like it last year when they were stamped out by an enormous grassroots effort aided by talk radio.
This is pay back time for us now. If McCain were to become pres, (doubtful) who has a shred of doubt that amnesty would be high on his agenda? Make no mistake, McCain isn't bound by his current promises or word. He will betray conservatives in a heartbeat, that's what he does. |
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Brett, Romney's ahead of Huckabee...voting for him defies logic...what are you talking about??? If Huckabee has one conservative cell in his brain he needs to worry about saving the CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT and join up w/ Romney & "run" for Secratary of the Department of Transportation |
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Dr. D says "The only person who has a chance against the Democrats is Romney. Romney is articulate, speaks clearly about what he believes in, will be able to take on Hiliary and the Obama machine, and beat them. Anyone with a 4th grade education or higher should be able to figure this out!"
Hmmm, nice job of demonizing people there Dr. "Speaks clearly about what he believes in," problem is he doesn't believe in anything or changes his beliefs.
It would be better if Romney did the honorable thing and dropped out and endorsed Hucakbee. |
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IF McCain steals the Republican nomination with less than 50% of the vote (because Romney and Huckabee split the conservatives), Conservatives need to ALL contact McCain's campaign and ASK for his top ten list of US Supreme Court nominees and ASK him to sign the NumbersUSA pledge to not reward illegal invaders with ANY kind of Amnesty.
If he wants our vote he needs to earn it if he wants to win in November.
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Or even Romney.
It is about Hugh. And Rush. And Coulter, and Ingraham, and Levin.
These people realize that they lose completely if McCain wins the nomination AND the election. They will be marginalized as insignificant. They would rather have Hillary in the WH, so they can rail against her, than McCain. Oh sure, they could and would rail against him, but to whose benefit? The Dems?
McCain could usher in a more moderate, post-partisan Washington. And that would doom the talking heads.
They would much prefer McCain lose the general, so they can shake their heads, and, "Say I told you so..."
The fact that Hugh has been wrong on the vast majority of his assurances and predictions will never be admitted or acknowledged. What a total fraud. |
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If Romney would spend some money to buy ads for Super Tuesday, I would believe you. He has not contracted for ANY ads in ANY states. He has accepted defeat.
If Romney has one conservative cell in his brain he needs to worry about saving the CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT and join up w/ Huckabee & accept the VP slot.
Huckabee/Romney beats McCain and Hillary and Obama. Unfortuneately, Romeny is too probably to proud to accept the VP slot. For the good of the country I hope I am wrong.
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Let’s assume for a second you are right.
McCain becomes President and passes the exact same bill that Kyl sponsored this past summer. I will even go further - let’s say McCain breaks his campaign promise and enacts comprehensive immigration reform independent of securing our border (which of course he could not do without there being a full mutiny)?
So what?
You do realize that the problem with having open borders is not that we have illegal aliens coming here, don’t you? Of course you don’t – you are a nativist!
The problem with having open borders is that they are not secured and terrorists could get through and wreak awful havoc.
You see your side reveals its true intent- you hate Mexicans. Thus it is good that you are purged from the party. We will need Latino voters to compete with the socialists in the 21st century. Plus Mexicans are family oriented, Christian, extremely hard working and have a high birthrate. These are all very important to maintaining a socially conservative society.
I would much rather have impoverished Mexican aliens coming to this country than college-educated socialist-minded secular humanist Canadians.
I take it you would prefer the latter.
Also - you do realize that for America to maintain its dominance as the sole world power we must vastly increase our birthrates? Otherwise the Chinese and Indians will destroy us simply by their numbers alone.
Please put away your racist tendencies and use your God-given brain! If you cannot then please leave the party and join Perot and Buchanan!
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"steals"
You now have the audacity to use the exact same leftist term that the democrats used against Bush in Florida?
You guys really are liberals in Republican clothing.
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that Giuliani and Thompson werent on that stage but Huckabee and McCain are still here.
I still wonder how McCain and Huckabee are doing so well despite their lack of money.
I know...they are being outspent 5-1, 10-1,...people must really love them.
Then I think about all the press they get from the media, which is alot. The media love McCain and Huck, very strange.
I wonder still, why Huck hasnt been taken to task over his Confederate Flag comments?
Im sure that Romney and Paul are the only candidates that arent getting played.
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Romney can't win the general without Independents.
What's the difference? As I see it, McCain did better amongst conservatives in Florida and South Carolina that Mitt did among Independents... |
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Check the news again--Romney has just made major ad buys in several states, and he has two appearances in Southern California today. We need a more youthful and conservative candidate than McCain, people. |
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So how long will it take for you Mittbots to start attacking Nancy?
Will Hugh write an article about how she supports stem-cell research and thus has never been a true conservative?
Maybe Rush can talk about how she has a history of bad judgment.
It's over folks. Mrs. Reagan just put the nail in your pandering god's coffin. |
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Romney makes major Super Tuesday ad buy
Just across on Fox and the AP reports too. The ad buy includes California and several other Super Tuesday states.
Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney plans to run a “significant” level of television ads in California and other states that vote Tuesday in essentially a national primary, aides said Thursday, signaling a willingness to aggressively try to derail Republican front-runner John McCain.
Since his defeat in Florida Tuesday, the former Massachusetts governor has been debating over just how much of an effort to make in which of the 21 states that hold primaries and caucuses Tuesday.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/01/31/breaking-romney-makes -major-super-tuesday-ad-buy/ |
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Big G, thanks for posting that, I had missed it.
PC, that is exactly what is at work here. The RNC has wanted an amnesty candidate all along. It was McCain's turn, but he was perceived to be too tied to McCain/Kennedy amnesty/banana to get nominated. Rudy would have worked also, but never got off the ground. Now they are trying to herd us into McLazarus. |
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What part of illegal don't you understand?
Please explain how ANY of these illegals can work legally in this country?
Please explain how it is not a second crime to use false Social Security numbers?
Please explain how it is not a crime to pay income taxes on the illegal income they earn?
Please explain how it is fair to the millions of people who are legally waiting in line following the US immigration laws?
Why are we not suprised that a member of LaRaza like Mc_Tex favors John McAmnesty!!!
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Lemme correct my post. I know IND voters were not allowed to vote R in those primaries - I meant how far right or center the R's who voted were. McCain did better amongst right voters than Mitt did amongst centrist voters. The same pattern would hold in the General Election, IMO. |
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I really doesn't matter what "conservative" issues McCain has taken in the past or will in the future, many of you will refuse to acknowledge them. Just like Scarborough. I am really sick of these talking heads bringing up his vote against the tax cuts, they always leave out the reason why. And why do they leave it out? Because it shows McCain to be a fiscal conservative, thats why.
BTW Joe Scarborough could also go on forever with excuses as to why that dead woman was found in his Congressinal office. |
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Brett, with all due respect, YOU ARE WRONG. |
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Independent AND Democrats HAVE been voting for McCain in ALL of the states thus far. Florida was supposed to be the first closed primary, but it didn't turn out that way. Letting the Democrats pick both parties candidates is not a winning strategy. They will vote for the real thing in Nov, not D-lite. |
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You'll need it if McCain is the nominee, 2008 will make '64 look like a good year for the GOP. |
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Romney's ads will have to endlessly attack McCain on his Amnesty and Global Warming Tzxes bills and how he consistently sides with the Democrats on major issues.
I just don't see how Romney spending more money can move enough voters to him at this late hour.
Huckabee on the other hand is a great communicator and connects with voters. If he had Romney's money, McCain would never have won ANY state except maybe New Hampshire.
Unfortunately, Romney is probably too proud to accept the VP slot under Huckabee.
Oh well. Since neither Romney or Huckabee will drop out, we are stuck with McAmnesty, who most conservatives will NOT vote for unless he signs the NumbersUSA pledge and gives us his list of top ten US Supreme Court nominees.
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I'm glad Romney's putting forth new adds. His adds have been "exposure" adds...exposing his oppositions records - they've never been personal attacks.
McCain's have been personal. Another affirmantion of his Clintonesque ways! |
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Here's a brilliant analysis by Dean Barnett (because it confirms what I have been saying for months lol) - a Romney supporter.
"Many conservatives will try to dismiss McCain's victory last night as a product of Florida's large Latino vote, something McCain might have won because of his immigration bill that most of the party vehemently opposed. But every state has similar outliers who are equally numerous.
Next week it's New York's turn to vote. The New York GOP's positions on social issues are likely to differ dramatically from Mississippi's. California also votes next week--chances are, the California GOP has a markedly different attitude regarding environmental matters than the Michigan franchise.
In an era when the party's ideology has become disconnected from any consistent themes and quite frankly incoherent, the emergence of John McCain makes a sort of sense. McCain is right on the Iraq war, the one issue that most unites the party. And his valorous life story makes him a sensible choice for Commander in Chief.
Still, the nomination fight isn't quite over. Romney has one more week to change people's minds. It's possible that Romney can still make the case that he would make a better president than McCain. As a Romney guy, I very much hope that happens.
But regardless of who wins the nomination, Campaign '08 has illustrated that the Republican party's governing philosophy has become as much of a disconcerting mishmash as the Democrats'. With all the talk of Ronald Reagan this cycle, most have forgotten that Reagan painted with political broad strokes. That's how he united a solid majority of the country. For a few shining moments, Newt Gingrich did the same thing.
If the Republican party really wants to return to those glory days, it will heed those examples. More importantly, it must leave the ideologically confused and pandering pursuit of 51 percent of the vote in its rearview mirror." |
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"Now they are trying to herd us into McLazarus."
Yeah, the comeback kid, Lazarus, the Pheonix.
They are the ones who brought him back. It wasnt the people.
Who actually likes the guy? His amnesty buddies and the Democrats.
He said he'd still sign his amnesty bill but tells us to rest easy because it wont come accross his desk if he's president.
The media loves McCain's brand and is selling his "firewater" to the public.
The public is buying it from a media that they've always loathed. Ironic.
I dont trust the McCain brand or his pitch people. |
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If we're going to talk about McCain's "character", why can't we mentioned when he cheated on his disabled wife (repeatedly) and when lead the infamous Keating 5 ethical scandal?
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You are a racist. You hate Mexicans. Leave the Party!
Buh Bye!
Or should I say Adios!
Holas mis amigos Latinos - bienvenidos ala Republican Party!
Viva Estados Unidos y el Republicanos.
lmao
Seriously though - this is how the dems became the majority party in the 20th century. They were waiting at the ports for the illegals from Ireland and Germany and the first thing they offered them was a Welcome and a voter registration care.
What's funny is that if I was to do the racists Brett's geneology I bet it would be highly likely that he had an illegal Irish or German ancestor!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Oh and Bret the racist – I love how you refused to refute any of the (rather brilliant lol) points I made. Ouch!
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I'm open (seriously) to your ideas on how Mitt will make up the 11% and 15% national deficits he currently has vs. Hillary and Obama,respectively.
McCain is currently barely ahead of both, albeit barely.
How will Mitt make this up? I havent heard this from ONE talking head (even the brilliant Rush).
He cannot make up any ground with hispanics (because of his Illegal stance). Independents? I don't think so.
A lot of us would actually prefer Mitt to McCain, but at the same time I prefer McCain to Hillary or Obama. If you can show me how Mitt will make up the 15%, I might be inclined to get on board. |
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“The best minds are not in government; if they were, business would steal them away.”
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McCain will almost certainly be the nominee, and will almost certainly defeat Hillary (Obama will be slightly harder).
1. Deal with it. Either decide that we are safer with Hillary hacking at our rights from the front, or worry about McCain from the back.
(I'm somewhat worried, but far less apoplectic than Hugh.)
2. Talk radio needs to take responsibility for their failure in stopping McCain. Had even one top tier candidate relentlessly pounded him (ads and debates) on this...
John McCain - "But I would rather have a clean government than one where quote First Amendment rights are being respected that has become corrupt. If I had my choice, I’d rather have the clean government."
Immigration, The gang of 14, his age, his questioning of tax cuts, and even his global warming positions, were stupid arguments. (I rest my case on the results of the primaries.)
McCain initiated a successful assault on the foundation of this nation (1st Amendment), and not one candidate effectively and relentlessly attacked him on it.
Now talk radio (I'm a talk radio host) is mewling and whining, pinning their rapidly waning hopes on a man at least as questionable as McCain - Mitt Romney - while worrying more about Mexicans than the destruction of their Constitution.
http://www.extremewisdom.com/?p=975
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Now for some fun...
http://www.extremewisdom.com/?p=974
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Only an idiot would believe that all Independents are Democrats. Arizona is now 40% Independent. there is a reason they do not register as democrats and there is a reason (people like Virginia Idiot) that they do not register as Republicans.
The Republicans controlled Congress because we won their vote.
Bush won the White House by winning enough Independents.
Dems won back the Congress by winning the Independents big time.
Mac will win them back!
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Dan,I temporarily forgot about both Keating & Cheating.
We also all need to remember that last night he mentioned Romney's $! Class Envy isn't a Conservative trait...another McCain liberal connection! |
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Stop being manipulated by polls. The MSM is an arm of the DNC and WANT McCain to be the nominee. Polls this far out are less than useless. |
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Kerry was supposed to beat Bush, mmmm, didn't turn out that way, did it. |
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wife and marry into wealth. Nothing says courage and leadership like leading a squadron.
You just can't be an elitist Yankee who made his own money. Romney just doesnt relate well to the common man.
America relates better to a man who's life can be summed up with a song at country kareoke bar.
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VOTE FOR FRED
Fred Thompson has withdrawn from the race for president. Fred Thompson is still our choice. Fred Thompson, a young attorney working for the justice department, hand picked by Ronald Reagan, helped defend some of our choices to vote for “the Republican,” Richard Nixon. Fred Thompson, as a senior Republican diplomat, left us with a coherent interpretation of our conservative views. Fred Thompson gave us a conservative focus that allowed us to find a new interpretation of ourselves as Republicans. Fred crafted thoughts and opinions into simple effective coherent statements and published those, point by point on his website as a primer to assist in finding our way as a nation. Fred has set an example and laid the groundwork for the next generation Conservative.
Fred Thompson’s withdrawal from the race for president is not about your pain or your anger; we’ve all been there at one time or another. This is about us and our mutual decision to choose Fred Thompson, a committed conservative to lead. Fred owes us nothing. We don’t owe Fred. We do have a responsibility to ourselves to be responsible for our own decisions. We can’t blame someone else if we are not happy.
Fred Thompson is still on the ballot in many if not all states. Fred Thompson is still a viable choice for president. This is chess not checkers. A unified vote would give Fred the choice at the convention and would prevent second choices from looking more powerful than they deserve.
The right to choose cost some of our fellow citizens, countrymen and family the ultimate price. Our price for our right to choose based on our principals is one vote.
VOTE FOR FRED…
Dennis McIntire, “The Constituent”
http://www.dennisforlife.com
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Said that he would appoint justices like Roberts AND Alito. If you follow his comments on the trail, he's said that since he started--and over, and over again. But one little rumor gets started, and people automatically assume he's going in a different direction. The reality is that he worked behind the scenes in the Senate, as supported by many who witnessed it, and helped to get both of those guys confirmed. That's the facts, but the Rombots usually don't care much for them. |
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Thanks Mc_Tex for telling us who you are. I appreciate that. You confirm my theory. There's a bunch in the Republican party that view the U.S. as an open market and not a nation. You indicate that being a citizen is meaningless by your "nativist" remark. You are actively for importing as many citizens of foreign countries as possible into this country to create a voting block to gain and retain power. You're right, we who oppose that are the leftists. What are the Democrats? Right? They agree with you on the nativist language. This must be part of the new inverted universe. I'm sure I'll be called a racist now. I'm surprised you didn't use that term instead of nativist. Do you own a business? Do you cut your own grass? Go ahead and let anyone come into this country that wants. Screw the blue collar people that live here now. I wonder who will fight and die for Walmart (and that's not a slam on Walmart)? We probably do need a new party. Also many illegals are not Latino, so you need to be more expansive when your ruminating about your new base.
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People always say, what they do speaks louder than what they say.
I dont trust what McCain says because of what he has done.
Instead of following his caompaign trail.
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One wonders if the ‘deport ‘em all’ crowd applies the same concept of the ‘law is supreme’ to all other aspects of life.
Given exactly how many laws the Federal and State codes have, I’m sure we could find several that each of us were violating on a given day. Should punishment be applied strictly in every case? If not, why not? If we’ve broken the law, we should all be punished, right?
Or to take another example, how many of you who are bewailing McCain’s so-called amnesty bill for illegal immigrants are more than willing to support the revised FISA bill with a blanket amnesty for telecoms that may have violated the law?
You may surprise me, but I suspect your commitment to the law only extends as far as your political beliefs.
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Vote your principals, GIVE FRED DELAGATES IN THE CONVENTION, no need to waste the signs, keep them up as a symbol of principal. We now have a responsibility to choose again, as for me, I’m going to vote for Fred if his name is on the ballot.
Sticking to our guns and strength and standing by Fred now costs one vote. The campaign for the White House was about us, not Fred. The campaign for the White House was about who we chose to lead, not the available choices. Give Fred the delegates in the convention to symbolize our conviction to our principals, not for Fred, for us.
We can always join the Alamo, Fred is the only candidate that none of the empowered candidates want in the race. Our best choice in this race is still Fred, he has my respect for not denigrating the process into the “American Idol” format. Sanjaya Malakar is not my choice for president.
The right to choose cost some of our fellow citizens, countrymen and family the ultimate price. Our price for our right to choose based on our principals is one vote.
VOTE FOR FRED…
Dennis McIntire, “The Constituent”
http://www.dennisforlife.com
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“Thanks Mc_Tex for telling us who you are. I appreciate that”
You are welcome!
“ There's a bunch in the Republican party that view the U.S. as an open market and not a nation.”
No I believe we are a nation open to anyone who wants to be a citizen. Unlike you I don’t reject people because of the color of their skin or their native language. It was your types that put up signs 100 years ago saying Irish Need Not Apply. I despise you nativists and will do everything in my power to destroy your influence over the Party of Lincoln and Reagan.
“You indicate that being a citizen is meaningless by your "nativist" remark.”
Actually it is just the opposite. Unlike you I want the aliens to become citizens. But it is you and your fellow nativists that want to refuse millions of good people from having that option even after many of them risked life and limb to get to this the greatest nation of the planet in its entire history. Too bad you don’t feel the same way about the USA and understand why so many risk so much to get here.
“You are actively for importing as many citizens of foreign countries as possible into this country to create a voting block to gain and retain power.”
That’s bs. I am for welcoming all immigrants to this nation and welcoming them to join the Party of Lincoln and Reagan. You want to limit who can come, where they can come from and then pee on them after they are here.
“we who oppose that are the leftists. What are the Democrats? Right? They agree with you on the nativist language.”
Ahh but you sure don’t know your history. The dems started the nativist movement in the 19th century via judicial fiat. They just hated all those Irish pigs and less than human Chinese. So they started screaming for new laws and closing the border and blah blah hate this blah |
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“ I'm sure I'll be called a racist now”
You are a racist. You hate new immigrants who don’t fit your mold of what a new immigrant should be (the irony is you probably want the Irish now bwaaaaaaaa)
“Go ahead and let anyone come into this country that wants.”
Absolutely as long as they aren’t felons and want to swear an oath of allegiance to our Constitution becoming citizens. That’s what the Founders believed in – that’s what Adam Smith called good economics. Of course you wouldn’t know this because you don’t know much about conservative history.
“Screw the blue collar people that live here now.”
See folks – there it is! I have been telling you these nativist racist bigots are really liberals. If you ever wanted proof there it is for all to see.
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Why should Huck step aside to help Mitt? After the way Hugh and talk radio treated him, Huck is certainly not obliged to do anything for Mitt. Huck can keep pulling social conservative votes.
Perhaps if Mitt and talk radio had not used a scorched earth policy against Huck, they could have reasoned with him, but now, no way.
What big endorsement does Mitt have? None. McCain got the FL GOP behind him to win there, now he has Rudy and Arnold (Hugh's man!) behind him.
So if John is the nominee, talk radio has no one to blame but itself.
And Hugh, thanks for hosting us here, especially those of us who disagree with you. |
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Hugh Hewitt wrote;
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"A thank you, btw, to the readers. As of this moment, 1,462,973 visitors to this site have come to this site this January, a new record for HughHewitt.com. I know many of you don't agree with what you read here, but I appreciate your continued patronage."
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Hugh, your stalker Joe probably accounts for 250,739 of those visitors !
Out of appreciation, you should send Joe a gold watch, or at least a bowling trophy with his name engraved. Or maybe an autographed copy of one of Andrew Sullivan's books---he'd like that.
Ha, ha, ha.
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The one thing that has really irked me during this debate is the so-called Conservatives (who are actually liberals) bantering about respecting the "rule of law".
The rule of law applies to only one document: The Constitution!
You think our Founders gave a damn about the rule of law when they dumped the tea in the bay?
Why do these people redefine liberalism and call it conservatism. John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton, Ben Franklin and George Washington are all turning over in their graves!
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"All McCain has to do is give us conservatives his short list (top ten) of US Supreme Court nominees so we can vet them."
Brett - he doesn't even have to go that far. If he would do what Guiliani did and name a comittee led by Ted Olsen and promise that this committee would vet potential nominees and promise to not only appoint strict constructionist judges, but to fight for them as well, then he could win me over still. I'd still prefer Romney b/c I think he would be more willing to fight for good judges. I want to hear mccain promise to fight for good judges even if that means pissing off his good buddies, the Dems.
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Back when Bush was first elected, the only requirement for being accepted as a true conservative was to sniff Ronald Reagan's jockstrap incessantly.
Now you have to wear it over your head while supporting torture, laying the burden of a stupendous deficit on our children, and allowing the president to eavesdrop on our private conversations.
McCain isn't up to the task. Go Mitt!
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"I'd still prefer Romney b/c I think he would be more willing to fight for good judges"
really? Romney huh? You mean just how he fought for the Surge when it wasn't politically expedient to do so?
What was it Romney said when asked about the McCain Surge? "Well...ummm. I really cannot comment at this moment in time due to the fact that I am currently serving as the governor for the state of Massachusetts and I believe it would be...ummm... inappropriate for me to make any such... ummm.... comments on this matter which is clearly this sole jurisdiction (wait let me call my lawyers in and verify that....) regarding issues of national security (is that right Mr. Mitchell?)... and since I am extremely busy representing the people of this great north-eastern state I should not make such comments at this time. Excuse me I have a phone call from my campaign manager about opening an office in Iowa.
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Notice how Mc_Tex did not deny he is a member of LaRaza (the race), a racist group that supports turning the Southwest into a AZTLAN country.
Mc_Tex we know you are really a Democrat troll pushing for Amnesty, so that either way with Hillary or Obama or McCain you get your Amnesty.
Go back to Mexico you illegal invader, you are not welcome here. Get in line and apply for LEGAL entry just like any decent person who do.
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"who are now facing a possible McCain nomination and the recognition that the Arizona maverick is a phenomenally weak general election candidate"
what a fool
the dems worst nightmare is big mac
romney and his panderpalooza is who they want to face
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Big G, are you serious??
You wrote ...
Its ok to cheat on your paralyzed
wife and marry into wealth. Nothing says courage and leadership like leading a squadron.
Because if you are, then Patty Hearst could qualify for YOUR presidental candidate because she was held hostage too!
I sure hope you're not married...if so, your poor spouse.
Foot Soldier Traitor (McCain) is definitely your candidate & if that doesn't work out your vote for Hillary will be expected! |
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steve: "If he would do what Guiliani did and name a comittee led by Ted Olsen and promise that this committee would vet potential nominees and promise to not only appoint strict constructionist judges, but to fight for them as well, then he could win me over still."
Brett: I don't really know Ted Olsen that well.
I just think it is easier and more open to public scrutiny if he gives us his top 10 list of people he would appoint to the US Supreme Court.
Matter of fact he could just ask the ACU to give him a list of 10 to 20 if he doesn't know any himself. Given that he has been in DC for over 20 years he should be able to easily give us a list of 10 judges.
Wanna bet he refuses to give us a simple list of 10? Wanna bet he doesn't ask ACU for a list?
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OMG I have to deny that I am a member of La Raza?
Notice how Brett didn't deny that he is truly a racist? LMAO
Poor Brett - no David Duke on the ballot this time.
Okay Brett - for you and all your nativist buddies. I absolutely deny that I am a member of that despicable organization called La Raza. furthermore, I am extremely proud of the fact that my ancestors kicked their bums out of Texas. I only wish we had gotten more land as the victors of the War with Mexico seeing that El Presidente Santa Ana started the damn war by continuously encouraging the raiding of Texan ranches. Viva el Tejas Rangers!
Yeah I know Brett - you have no clue what I am talking about. You never did that der skool thang, did ya?
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an unemployed, serial spammer who supports McCain. That, i absolutely know! Anyway, McCain said Hillary would make "a very good President", so why should we worry about SCOTUS nominations, your candidate doesn't. |
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How many Conservatives will vote for a man who cheats on his wife? Especially when that wife waited for him for over 7 years while he was a POW. She had raised his children without him there for over 7 years.
So how does this man reward his wife? He cheats on her. He divorces her and marries a woman 20 years younger who just happens to be married to a rich Budweiser wholesale distributor named Hensley.
This same Hensley started as an illegal bootlegger working for Kemper Marley, an organized crime boss in Arizona.
Read this link if you want all the details:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2000-02-17/news/haunted-by-s pirits/full |
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How many Conservatives will vote for a man who cheats on his wife? Especially when that wife waited for him for over 7 years while he was a POW. She had raised his children without him there for over 7 years.
So how does this man reward his wife? He cheats on her. He divorces her and marries a woman 20 years younger who just happens to be the daughter to a rich Budweiser wholesale distributor named Hensley.
This same Hensley started as an illegal bootlegger working for Kemper Marley, an organized crime boss in Arizona. Marley rewarded Hensley with his wholesale distributorship.
McCain bought his first US house seat in AZ with over $200,000 from the Hensley family dirty money.
Read this link if you want all the details:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2000-02-17/news/haunted-by-s pirits/full |
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Maybe you should do some thorough research before you make assertions. A sentence in the link you provided says this: "Rasmussen does not show Romney leading in ANY Super Tuesday state where they have conducted polling." That sentence links you to Rasmussen's site. Guess what? Polling has only been reported in 8 states and UTAH WAS NOT ONE OF THEM. So, for a novelty, try finding out the actual story before you write your drivel.
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Mc_Tex you can deny all you want, but the fact that you support REWARDING illegal invaders shows your TRUE La Raza colors.
I bet you even fly the flag of Mexico on your car and your house.
Viva La Revolution?? |
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"Maybe it's because you prefer Romney's defense of timetables for withdrawal?"
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You sound confused about what Romney had said.
Romney was talking about setting private timetables for progress, not public timetables for WITHDRAWAL.
That's why even the NY Times, Washington Post, CNN, and the Easter Bunny have all said that McCain was not being truthful in his characterization of what Romney had said. |
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Wanna bet that McCain is more willing to let the Democrats and Ted Kennedy vet his Supreme Court nominees than to let us, his fellow Republicans vet them before we give him our votes?
I won't hold my breath waiting for his top 10 list of Supreme Court potential nominees.
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"Invaders"?
And you wonder why I want you out of my Party?
Good-riddance!
(I own an American flag of course and a Texan flag and an Irish flag - which gets flown on St. Patty's day!!!)
And yes viva la revolucion republicanos!
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How many Conservatives will vote for a man who cheats on his wife? Especially when that wife waited for him for over 5 years while he was a POW. She had raised his children without him there for over 5 years.
So how does this man reward his wife? He cheats on her. He divorces her and marries a woman 20 years younger who just happens to be the daughter to a rich Budweiser wholesale distributor named Hensley.
This same Hensley started as an illegal bootlegger working for Kemper Marley, an organized crime boss in Arizona. Marley rewarded Hensley with his wholesale distributorship.
McCain bought his first US house seat in AZ with over $200,000 from the Hensley family dirty money.
Read this link if you want all the details:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2000-02-17/news/haunted-by-s pirits/full |
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"How many Conservatives will vote for a man who cheats on his wife?"
Considering how many GOPers have had sex scandals in recent years, I'd say more than a few.
The GOP is not a morally pure party. It is a party of flawed, corrupt men. Just like every other party.
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"Romney was talking about setting private timetables for progress, not public timetables for WITHDRAWAL"
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
And you are so stupid that you believe that?
Didn't you even bother to read it?
The reporter specifically said "TIMETABLES FOR WITHDRAWAL"
and then just to follow up the reporter said:
"PRIVATE ONES - JUST NOT PUBLIC ONES?"
"That's why even the NY Times, Washington Post, CNN"
Wow - how dumb people in my party are. How easily they are propagandized. The reason the NYTimes, Post, CNN etc came to Romney defense is because they were also just as wrong about the Surge as Mitt was and they don't want anyone holding them responsible for their promotion of withdrawal last year the way McCain held Willard responsible!
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You are obvious nuts or delusional.
What do you call 12 million people illegally crossing the borders of any country?
Why can't every poor Chinese, Russia, and Indian just by a one-way ticket to the USA tomorrow so they can get in on the GREAT MCCAIN AMNESTY?
Obviously if 100 million Chinese, Russia, and Indian people come here this year, there is no way we could round them up and deport them.
So why can't they come here too?
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I lived in Phoenix. The Phoenix New Times is a left-wing gossip rag.
Now why am I not surprised that you would use that as your source?
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Calm down, I was laying the sacasm on thick. Read the rest of it.
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My point is that generally speaking social Conservatives will NOT vote for this type of man for President.
Even if only 10% of conservative refuse to vote for an adulter like McCain who also has ties to former organized crime leaders like Hensley, McCain loses at least 5 million voters who either stay home or don't vote for President.
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1) Why have the true conservatives (Hunter, Tancredo, Ron Paul, even Fred Thompson) been given minimal questions and time in the debates?
2) Why was McCain's campaign able to suddenly come to life when he had no money or momentum and his campaign seemed to be dead in the water? Why did the press suddenly start covering him?
3) Why did Huckabee suddenly get pushed forward by the press? He too had no money, but received millions of dollars worth of free press.
4) Why has the mainstream media not told you that there was a caucus in Louisiana last week, and that Ron Paul may well have finished first if they had not made half his supporters use provisional ballots (including registered delegates!)?
5) Why was ALL of the focus been on Romney and McCain before even a single vote had been cast toward the actual nomination?
6) Why do we seem to be stuck with three contenders that are all at the liberal end of the Republican spectrum?
7) Why does the press not want a true conservative in the White House?
8)Why have so many primary rules changed this year? For example, the Montana open primary has been changed to a closed caucus for only Republican leaders for the first time, AND NO ONE KNEW ABOUT IT.
9)Why are we being forced to use Diabold voting machines when they have been proven to be unreliable?
10)Why has the press refused to cover the New Hampshire primary recount? This is a recount of both the Democrat and Republican primary votes, and it has shown significant irregularities in the vote counts such that it appears Obama should have won New Hampshire. Again, no word. |
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I am so tired of these Conservative
wanna be politicians that are jumping on the McCain bandwagon of endorcers....
We, the real conservatives, need to make sure that we help weed these guys out in their own elections when we have the opportunity.
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It is incredible to me that smart, intuitive people do not see through the McCain facade?
He is clearly not a conservative nor will he support conservative views if elected.
He is devisive and frankly being a President is more about his ego. Look at the way he gets "puffed up" and conducts himself. Last night he did terrible in the debate. He appeared as though he was just going through the motions and didn't have to defend himself or convince anyone to vote for him....he feels he is the winner.
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I was born in Phoenix and graduated from ASU in the late 70's.
One of my friends worked as a Phoenix Police Detective. He is the one who told me about McCain's ties thru Hensley and Kemper Marley.
Don Bolles son went to my High School and also graduated from ASU. Kemper Marley had his dad (a reporter for the AZ Republic) killed because Bolles was writing articles exposing Marley for land fraud in Arizona.
You are soooo wrong about McCain.
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"What do you call 12 million people illegally crossing the borders of any country?"
I call it recognition that the USA is the greatest nation on the planet.
Too bad you don't agree.
Now let me ask you this and let's see how honest you are...
For some reason fate has it that you are born 167 miles south of the Arizonan border. You are the child of a poor farmer who can not earn enough to put food on the table. Would you:
A.Do everything in your power to come to the land of opportunity, even if it meant violating our immigration laws or...
B. Stay in Mexico?
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Dread writes:
Men are not saints.
"How many Conservatives will vote for a man who cheats on his wife?"
Considering how many GOPers have had sex scandals in recent years, I'd say more than a few.
HEY DREAD,
YOU WROTE THE ABOVE QUOTE...DOES BILL CLINTON RING A BELL???
AGAIN, ANOTHER McCAIN/CLINTON SIMILARITY!
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By any objective measure, Romney killed McCain in this debate.... AGAIN.... But that doesn't seem to matter..... The Conservatives are divided and because Huckabee voters either got their feelings hurt in Iowa or because they are making decisions based on what they believe is a religious conflict McCain looks to probably get the Nomination.... But with it comes contempt on the part of Conservatives....
You McCainiacs and your brude are mud wrestlers ... you, like your candidate, are cheap shot artists, and I am guessing that for many of us. you and your candidate, will never get our support.... The General will prove to be one of the most embarrassing Republican losses in History.... similar to what another Arizona Republican suffered some 44 years ago...
He will be my fouth choice in the general, behind staying home....
Barry won 7 states.... that will be your bogey or in Las Vegas terms, the over/under.
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I feel the same way about Romney as well. His recent "conversion" to conservative principles is a little to convenient, in my book. He, just like Huckabee and McCain, cannot talk about an issue without promoting a new government program to fix it. Do we not have any candidates who truly understand what it means to have a LIMITED government? Only Ron Paul understands this concept. |
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Thanks Hugh, you have helped me keep my sanity during this primary process. If McCain gets the nod he will go left immediately to go after Dems who don't want a woman and "independents". Then Republicans will really see the mistake they made. I know you will support McCain, but my husband and I plus my two sons will vote for "Billary". I believe that she will be stopped by the real Repulicans in the Senate, while McCain will have free reign to pass his liberal agenda----including weakening our foreign policy!
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The Ironic Part is, even though Huckabee is running interference for McCain because of a mutual dislike for Romney... he will end up without the VP spot on the ticket that he has been hoping for..... In fact, I suspect that the best he will get is a promise of some lowly cabinet position should McCain make it....
In the meantime, the Evangelicals will get a candidate that would not be very friendly to the group that he has refered to in the past as the "agents of intolerance".....
Forgive them, for they know not what they do...
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And my point is that irrationality, expediency and party identification will trump morality when it comes down to it for most voters.
They will whine and complain and rant now, and when the choice comes down to either a McCain or a Clinton, most will hold their noses and vote McCain.
Personally, I won't. But I'm not particularly invested in the GOP any longer. |
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dont you dare pretend to be a Republican.
We know you are a liberal democrat who is scared shi'ite less that McCain will become the nominee because you know that your Billary will lose big time come november.
Geez you liberals must really be stupid to think you can fool us with your propaganda! |
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Why stop at just Mexicans?
Every poor person in the whole world (over 4 Billion people) should buy one way tickets to the USA this year to get in on the great MCCAIN AMNESTY.
Why do you think over 10 milion people are legally waiting in line to immigrate here?
Either you are nuts or you are a La Raza Democrat troll.
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"By any objective measure, Romney killed McCain in this debate.... AGAIN...."
But you are not objective.
You do know that don't you?
Now if you want an objective review of the debate go read what I wrote last night. |
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Romney converted to a Prolifer position in 2004, has always been against Gay marriage but supportive of Gay rights in general (ie. given the same citizen rights as anybody else).... Tell me one other thing that he has become more "Socially Conservative" on? You can't....
He Governed on these positions as a conservative in a liberal state...
McCain on the other hand isliberal on the environment, liberal on immigration, and simply lost on economic issues. |
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Thank you Mc_Tex_La_Raza.
Now I get it. John McCain has a mansion in Arizona. I do not. Therefore according to you and McCain I just need to do the logical thing and break into his mansion and ask him to take care of me and my family of 6.
Sounds good to me. Can I get John McCain's word on it that he will not prosecute me? Or do I need 1 million people to come with me? |
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You didnt answer my question.
Answer it first and then I will answer your (extremely naive) question. |
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Still refusing to answer I see...
And even worse - you are still playing the class warfare card - so typically liberal of you! |
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You really got to stop with the jokes this early.... you being objective on anything regarding politics is rediculous if not funny...
You made me spit coffee all over my computer....
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You are by far, and I would guess by consensus of folks on here, the one that is the "pretend Republican".
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Sorry you can't take my examples that prove you are simpleton.
I already agreed that poor people will break laws if they will be rewarded.
My point is the stronger point:
Why stop at just Mexicans?
Every poor person in the whole world (over 4 Billion people) should buy one way tickets to the USA this year to get in on the great MCCAIN AMNESTY.
Why do you think over 10 milion people are legally waiting in line to immigrate here?
Either you are nuts or you are a La Raza Democrat troll.
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McTex writes: Wednesday, January, 30, 2008 11:19 PM
I didn't think it was Mac's best night but I did think he won on 'timetables for withdrawal' especially when McCain never interrupted Romney and Romney wouldn't let McCain speak. At first I thought Romney would get the uppercut on that one but McCain is a street fighter and kept jabbing even coming back to it and closing the argument in his favor. What really hurt Romney was his mentioning of Bill Bennett who, within seconds after the debate ended, defended McCain very strongly. I think most objective people now either believe that McCain honestly believes that Romney was weak-kneed about the Surge or that Romney really was a coward on the surge. Mitt would have been smart to ignore it. But regardless calling McCain a liar on this will only hurt the accuser.
Secondly, McCain got in some great lines about Mitt's own papers including the very conservative Boston Herald endorsing him and not their own guy. "I promise you that the Arizona Republic..." great line and you could see in Mitt's face that it hurt.
McCain made me wince twice - when he brought up Mitt laying people off and when he said serving for profit. I also thought McCain looked tired.
It wasn't that Huck did poorly, in fact he was charming as usual - it was that CNN relegated him to 2nd tier. He even agreed that they weren't letting him speakd. However he should have forced his way in more. I thought his response about Rush really made Rush look petty.
I though Mitt had some good lines, especially in the beginning of the debate. But it quickly went downhill. I think Anderson Copper's line 'are you running for governor or president' hurt him and sort of set the mood. I also thought he was lacking in energy and a bit deflated. Like I said last night - his voice betrayed him and he will drop out soon. Now that AP is confirming he isnt going to do ad buys my assumptions appear to have been confirmed. |
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Wouldn't waste my time texmex... I know what a jerk u r.... and the only reason I am even talking to u on here is that I don't have anything else to do right now....
You and your candidate are Democrats and the sad part is that u don't even know it. |
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What are you afraid of? Just answer the question? Why the cowardice? |
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Was it you or Joe the ones that recorded the cheap shot robocalls for the Floidians??? For McCain???
You know, the ones where you guys desperately lied about Romney's positions on Cuba and Abortion???
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McCain totally said something mean about Alito in 3d period. Bobby Novak confirms that he talked to a guy who actually heard it. McCain only pretends to be Alito's friend! |
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I already agreed that poor people will break laws if they will be rewarded.
My point is the stronger point:
Why stop at just Mexicans?
Every poor person in the whole world (over 4 Billion people) should buy one way tickets to the USA this year to get in on the great MCCAIN AMNESTY.
Why do you think over 10 milion people are legally waiting in line to immigrate here?
Either you are nuts or you are a La Raza Democrat troll.
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Sour grapes really are quite sweet when they come from you! |
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WOW that is quite a web you wove there.
Marley - Hensley - Cindy Hensley - John McCain
So John McCain is responsible for what may or may not have happened with someone named Bolles in the 70's? Wasn't McCain still in the Navy during this time?
I'm getting very concerned!! If this is true then....that means that I am also responsible for what my father-in-law did in the 70's, and responsible for the actions of people he may or may not have know during this time? Do I get a pass on all this responsibility if I tell you I was still in diapers in the 70's. |
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I asked what would you do.
I want to know.
What would Brett do if in that situation.
Would you:
A. Do whatever it takes to live in America even if that meant crossing our border illegally
B. Stay in Mexico |
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Are you nuts or are you a La Raza Democrat troll?
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"I was still in diapers in the 70's. "
That is by no means an excuse. You should have known better to be born to such a man.
Shame on you! |
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I am waiting - its a simple question for a simple-minded person - what would you do? |
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I scanned it... Gosh, what a surprise, you thought McCain won the discussion on TimeTables....LOL.
Did you here the guys and gals afterwards? Did you hear the focus groups? No, I'm guessing not.... Your man got creamed by them....
It is so funny that you think your pce was so good... It's amatuerish.... but then, you wrote it didn't you...
If you are getting money for this... whatever it is.... you are being over compensated... |
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Actually if you had read it - the whole thing and just not scanned it - I thought Mitt did better than McCain.
LMAO - you love making a fool of yourself - why is that? |
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Thanks for the in-depth response. You may not believe it, but we're actually in agreement on a few things. I misspoke when I said don't let anyone in that wants. I am for letting anyone in that wants that's willing to go through the process. Yes I am leftist when it comes to wanting working people to be able to earn a living. Like I've said before where I live, we having packing plants that use to pay a living wage. Now they employ mostly illegals. Cutting meat is hard, dirty work. It paid well because of the nature of the work. So you didn't have to be a rocket scientist to earn a living wage. Now it doesn't pay so well. Wonder why? This is true in construction too. I'm Irish/German. My wife is Irish/Mexican. I visit with all of her father's side of the family who are Mexican. They are good people. Her father worked construction all of his life. He came in legally. If you make people like him compete with neverending influxes of cheaper and cheaper labor, you'll destroy the middlclass. Get it. I'm sorry to see you of course had to resort to the expected racist charge, but to your credit your response was thoughtful til then. |
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If I was born in Mexico I might try to get in here. People try to get stuff illegally all the time. That does not make it okay. Every sovereign nation has a right to control who enters it. NO ONE is talking about stopping immigration. They are talking about ILLEGAL immigration which brings with it huge problems - violent crime, drugs, fraud, and taxpayer funded health and welfare benefits.
Many, probably most illegal immigrants are just here to make a better life for themselves. We just want them to do it legally and they will be welcomed with open arms. The reality is, if we stopped the flow of illegals that many more legal immigrants could be allowed in. Your name calling and accusations of racism are part of why McCain ticked off so many conservatives during the immigration debates. |
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Why would you mention that ridiculous timetable argument when I was talking about judges? Romney took a clear stand on judicial philosophy during the gay marriage battle in Mass. He has shown that he will fight for a proper judicial role and he has managed to get some good conservative lawyers behind him. Even guiliani had a committee led by Ted Olsen to advise on judges. Who's advising mccain on judges? Is is clear that he will fight for good judges. Nope. |
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McCain commited adultery and divorced his faithful who waited 5 years for him while he was a POW. He then married one of women he cheated with, Cindy Hensley.
I only mentioned the link to Hensley to show the mud that the Democrats/Moveon.org/Soros are just waiting to throw at McCain. Did you forget about the Keating 5 scandal too?
Remember how Bush had a BIG lead over Kerry going into the last weeks of 2004, and how stories were leaked about Bush's drunk driving incident. Suddenly his poll numbers dropped and he almost lost to Kerry.
The MSM is just waiting to drop all this mud and demoralize Republicans who WILL stay home rather than vote for a sleaze like McCain.
So go ahead and stick you head in the ground, but you have been warned about McCain.
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I wasn't born to such a man. I married his son 20 years later. But according to Brett, I am responsible for my father in laws actions and business dealings. And of the dealings of people who may or may not have known my father in law. Mind boggling!!! |
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"Did you here the guys and gals afterwards?"
I did and if you listened to them it actually confirmed what I wrote. The first attack against McCain was that he was obviously lying and attack Mitt below the belt.
Ah ha - all of that changed last night. No one believes that any more but actually sees why McCain believes what he does - even if they dont agree.
Like I said "Mitt would have been smart to ignore it. But regardless calling McCain a liar on this will only hurt the accuser."
Furthermore, Romney supporters no longer believe that any more as they have to now spin the lame excuse that "what Mitt was actually saying was... blah blah... that he supports timetables for benchmarks...blah blah..."
And then people actually read how the reporter says "timetables for WITHDRAWAL" and they say Ah HAH Romney really is a lying panderer.
Love it!
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That is still no excuse. You chose to marry that man who was willing to be born to him.
Have you no sense of decency? |
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That is still no excuse. You chose to marry that man who was willing to be born to him.
Have you no sense of decency? |
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What's your view of Newt Gingrich? If he were to announce today that he will allow the delegates to nominate him against McCain at the convention would you support Newt? |
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What's your view of Newt Gingrich? If he were to announce today that he will allow the delegates to nominate him against McCain at the convention would you support Newt? |
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Mc_Tex_LaRaza I have already answered that ANY poor person who illegally invade ANY country if they knew they would be REWARDED. So based on your beliefs we need to accept 4 Billion more poor people from around the world.
Obvious Mc_Tex_LaRaza is La Raza Democrat troll.
Mc_Tex_LaRaza you can't even make a good liberal argument for why we should REWARD illegal behavior.
Your repeating stupid liberal arguments is insane.
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"He came in legally. If you make people like him compete with neverending influxes of cheaper and cheaper labor, you'll destroy the middlclass. Get it. I'm"
I do get it. That's why I am COMPLETEY in favor of all means that will successfully secure our border.
However - to then go about deporting all those here now is mind-boggling stupid. Worse - its unAmerican and 19th century nativist liberal at its core. It would cost trillions and destroy both the economy and millions of families. McCain's plan was commonsensical and greatly needed.
But the nativists who's sole mission in life is to ferment hate towards Mexicans (trust me I know first hand) stopped the legislation that would have actually secured the border. I know Jon Kyl personally and I know that he believed that law was good and would have worked. I am good friends with the ASU professor (very conservaitve) who inspired the law for Rep. Flake.
I am sorry if I offend the nativists but I do not care. They are motivated by racist intentions and will destroy the Party I love.
McCain's victory is the best thing that could happen to our Party! |
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"He came in legally. If you make people like him compete with neverending influxes of cheaper and cheaper labor, you'll destroy the middlclass. Get it. I'm"
I do get it. That's why I am COMPLETEY in favor of all means that will successfully secure our border.
However - to then go about deporting all those here now is mind-boggling stupid. Worse - its unAmerican and 19th century nativist liberal at its core. It would cost trillions and destroy both the economy and millions of families. McCain's plan was commonsensical and greatly needed.
But the nativists who's sole mission in life is to ferment hate towards Mexicans (trust me I know first hand) stopped the legislation that would have actually secured the border. I know Jon Kyl personally and I know that he believed that law was good and would have worked. I am good friends with the ASU professor (very conservaitve) who inspired the law for Rep. Flake.
I am sorry if I offend the nativists but I do not care. They are motivated by racist intentions and will destroy the Party I love.
McCain's victory is the best thing that could happen to our Party! |
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Any man who has lived a full life will have many skeltons in their closet. Because they are men.
I do not know the facts behind McCains failed marriage, so I will not pretend to. But it is you who are bringing it up, and I think that you do not know the facts either. As a wife, I will not defend adultry. But consider this. A man locked up for 5 1/2 years with no women available. What do you think the average man is thinking about when they finally get their freedom. I know it is not going home to play house.
I see your point on the mud slinging that is to come, but I really do not think Hillary will be bringing up adultry. |
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Awww Brett left before he could answer the Newt question.
I guess he got caught in his own hypocrisy.
Love it!
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Awww Brett left before he could answer the Newt question.
I guess he got caught in his own hypocrisy.
Love it!
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I have no idea why it is posting me twice....? |
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I have no idea why it is posting me twice....? |
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That is still no excuse. You chose to marry that man who was willing to be born to him.
Have you no sense of decency? |
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That is still no excuse. You chose to marry that man who was willing to be born to him.
Have you no sense of decency? |
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Are you serious or are you looking through your tv with rose colored glasses? Didnt you watch the "undecided's" the chart always dropped when McCain spoke, maybe because he stammered and mumbled! That all aside he is not believalble.
If he says one more time he isn't going to send the mother of an soldier in Iraq home, I am going to SCREAM!!! He won't answer the question....what is his plan for illegal immigration?
CA is sinking deeper in debt because Arnold won't address this issue and now he back McCain...not surprising! |
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He and the other Liberals all over this thread need to hang out at Kos. This addled cranky Democrat throwback can never win the General Election, no matter how hard the Enemedia and you trolls try to put him up as a candidate from the Right. |
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“Why would you mention that ridiculous timetable argument when I was talking about judges? “
Steve why? Because it goes to trust and credibility. You said you trust Mitt and I just gave you a (rather brilliant lol) reason for why he is the least trustworthy of all the candidates. Hell I trust Tancredo more than I do Romney and Tancredo is a lunatic.
Unbelievable that you didn’t get it so let me explain it again. If you cant trust Romney on the most important issue (ensuring victory in a war that the liberals want us to lose at against radical islamo-fascists) then how in the world can you trust him on judges?
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Ca is sinking deeper in debt because the unions have a strangle hold on the governmant here. The democrats hold a majority and they are controlled by the unions. Arnold is trying, he has been from day one. But it doen not help the cause when the conservative republicans in this state do nothing but bash him. The republicans have closed their primary, no independents or decline-to-state voters are allowed to vote republican. This is a move to rid the party of moderates. In doing so they are shooting themselves in the foot. The republican party in CA will become even more irrelevant.
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For your information I am actually a pollster by trade and have moderated a number of focus groups.
Of course they dropped down into the negatives - all people in a group being polled and even people at home alone turn the dial down during any contentious back and forth argument. That's human nature. You will find the same thing happened when Hillary and Obama went at each other last week.
Put a group of people in a room and show them a negative ad and they will almost all universally agree that they didn't like it.
Ask them 1 day later about the issues raised in that negative ad and you will be surprised to see how successful its impact was.
Negative ads work and always have.
Now my point was that McCain changed the subject to the war, Romney's ability to be commander in chief and his credibility regarding the Surge. Romney tried to change the subject to the economy and attacked McCain’s integrity.
At the end of the day I argue (and Florida confirms I am correct) that McCain has won that debate.
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I trust Romney on judges b/c he has actually stood up to activist judges. He shows some fight whereas McCain shows he likes to make friends with Dems and not anger them by preventing their unconstitutional filibusters of judges. McCain has not shown he is willing to stand up for judges and Romney has.
And I won't respond in depth to your timetable crap b/c that's already been disputed so thoroughly by so many. |
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Wow more logic from you? That is just not fair!
"I see your point on the mud slinging that is to come, but I really do not think Hillary will be bringing up adultry."
But oh wouldn't it be delicious if she did?
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McTex wrote;
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"The reporter specifically said "TIMETABLES FOR WITHDRAWAL"
and then just to follow up the reporter said:
"PRIVATE ONES - JUST NOT PUBLIC ONES?" "
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McTex, I realize you're angry at Romney and his supporters.
Feel free to continue to call me 'stupid' or any other name if you really believe that bolsters your argument.
But the truth is, you're being disingenous.
You're talking about the question that was asked, instead of what Romney ANSWERED.
Romney's ANSWER is the crux of the debate---not the reporter's question.
Romney never advocated for a timetable for WITHDRAWAL.
Romney also specifically replied that if he were President, he would reject any Dhimmicrat plan to have a timetable for withdrawal.
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"I trust Romney on judges b/c he has actually stood up to activist judges."
What were the polls in Mass showing at that time about judicial fiat regarding gay marriage?
Thank you - you just proved my point.
"McCain has not shown he is willing to stand up for judges"
Excuse me? The senior most conservative expert in the Senate regarding the judiciary is Sen. Jon Kyl. Why does he completely disagree with you?
"And I won't respond in depth to your timetable crap b/c that's already been disputed so thoroughly by so many."
But not by you it hasn't. I guess it is easier to let others fight your battles especially when you do know how to respond...
Cowardice and retreat are never pretty!
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Yes I would love to see her spin that one.
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I think most of us realize the logistical nightmare of physically removing 12-20 million people. We also realize the shock effect of having that big of a hole suddenly opened in the work force. As has been said over and over, the problem the government has in attempting to implement any remedy for this problem is that they have zero credibility. Many of us would be willing to bite the bullet and let those here stay, but we don't know how you can do that without telling the next 20 million that if they come, the U.S government will just wink and look the other way. I think the government should just ignore those here (except for those breaking any other law), and try to reduce illegals to a trickle; All of them, the ones coming in on planes and overstaying visas too. Find some indepedent group to assess the success of the process. If they can prove it's a trickle and it's believable 5 years from now, then put all the people here now on the path to legalization. Also if we need to expand legal immigration, do it. I think everyone already here is willing to compete with legal immigrants, just not the tidal wave of the last 20 years. |
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I learned a loooong time ago.... you can't convince the stupid.... You and McCain are both JERKS....
Romney killed him in the debate just like you are getting slamed around on this thread.
I would guess that even the more objective McCainiacs would agree that it is best for McCain to get off of that....Romney will win on that issue.... short and simple.
McCain is stealing a play out of the Clinton's playbook.... Make a rediculous false claim (about a conversation that occured 9 months ago)... force the Opposition (Romney) to spend time refutting it.... and, as he has just finished doing that.... make up another rediculous charge... that way you can keep your topic to Defense and stay off the Domestic Policy Issues which the base disagrees with him on, and stay away from the ECONOMY where he is totally lost...
McCain and the Clintons....
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That is not what I saw last night....maybe we need to review it again.
Just because McCain was in the service doesn't automatically make him better at being a Commander-In-Chief. Romney excudes Leadership, McCain does not. It is clear.
Romney would be an EXCELLENT President, someone the Republicans could be proud of.
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Why would I be angry? My guy has kicked your guys bum!
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No I was not screaming - I just wanted to make sure you guys were reading the reporters pertinent words.
"You're talking about the question that was asked, instead of what Romney ANSWERED.
Romney's ANSWER is the crux of the debate---not the reporter's question."
Wrong - the answer is never the solely important part - the question is equally important. A politician knows how to an | |