Saturday, May 31, 2008
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BREAKING: Obama Ditches TUCC
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Posted by:
Amanda Carpenter at
5:47 PM
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CNN is reporting Barack Obama has resigned from his controversial church Trinity United Church of Christ.
Update: Obama will hold a press avail at 8:15pm from South Dakota to answer questions about his decision to leave the church he's been a member of for over 20 years.
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TOO LATE!
Ain't going to help! |
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Too many commentators misunderstand how gut-wrenching it can be to lose a friend, a community... and if your friend introduced you to Jesus Christ... no way are you going to throw them over for what may even be major gaffes... until you are convinced, over top of your denial, that the person you thought you knew was not who you thought they were...it takes time to change. And for those who've never been connected to a church... you probably wouldn't understand.
Will he get credit for doing what he said he would do? Probably not. But I, for one, which him the best. Particularly in this day of political correctness... when what the P guy said was dead on accurate and the truth but yet "divisive." I hope they will find a community that will live up to the best of their hopes and dreams.
It's a wake up call for the Black Church, as well, that perhaps its time to lay the old rhetoric and victimization mantras aside and start to reach out to a better future.
No matter what you think about this... it's way past time for Hillary to wake up and smell the roses... they're cut from the bush and still in the vase and they may still smell good... but they're dead...as dead as her hopes for the Presidency after her slippage in telling the truth about waiting around for Obama to die.
Hillary hasn't made that gut-wrenching face-to-face standoff with the reality that she won't get what she wants this time. At least Obama has the guts to know when the ties need to be cut. |
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Crystal Cathedral now? Something a little more palatable to those voters out there? Don't want to scare them away with Wright's "God Damn America" and Father Pfleger's slavery reparations talk.
Unfortunately, too little too late. People like pandas, people don't like panderers. |
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May 31, 2008
I have heard the reports on Fox although not yet verified that Obama is resigning his membership in his church. While coming somewhat tardy in the views of many, it was probably a sensible thing for the Illinois Senator to do in light of the most recent developments which now signified absurdity when evaluating the chances of any presidential candidate drowning in this type of quagmired controversy. Just remember, it was a political chess move. The Black community in this country is still showing 11% of the electorate and mandatory in high percentages if Obama is to prevail. I do not know nor does any pundit or political observer at this moment how a community that supported and fought to legitimize his attendance at the church will take to this news. White people were always made to understand by Black Obama supporters that we did not understand the nuances of the Black Church and should stay out of the fray. Obama appears to be caving to the remaining 77% of the electorate, who of course will side with Obama's abrupt and unexpected decision.
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I would have agreed 100% if he left Trinity with Oprah around eight years ago. Remember she went to Trinity for a while too, but quietly left all on her own.
Leaving to pander to voters who are offended by Jeremiah Wright and Father Pfleger? Too little too late. |
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I have to concur with the sentiment already displayed here. It's too little, too late. 20 years too late. Had he abandoned Wright earlier, he still would've caught hell for it, although it may have been slightly diminished had he been upfront about it. But he denied the truth, avoided the truth, and is now doing this only for appearances' sake. It's what we call being a phony.
David Plouffe
Austin Goolsbee
Tony Rezko
Reverend Wright
Father Pfleger
William Ayers
...what a crew. |
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Without question, Obama had to get out of that church. But he gets no credit for doing so because of the damage he's left behind.
Obama sat silent in as Wright poisoned hearts and minds for the 15 to 20 (or so) years that Obama attended there. More than the incendiary lies, un-American statements, and candidate advocacy that Wright, Moses, and now Pfleger have preached in that church, the REACTION of the congregants absolutely mortifies me.
To be sure, those three pastors and those congregants have EVERY RIGHT to conduct themselves as they wish. But the minute there is advocacy for (or against) any candidate for public office, the tax-exempt status of that church must be revoked. Given the divisive and incendiary backgrounds of these pastors, earmarks to programs headed by those pastors must stop. And those previously made to Pfleger must be explained. They're not entitled to taxpayer money for their nonsense.
Obama has to live with the cowardice he's demonstrated or the political calculation he made or both in failing to "speak truth to power" to Wright years ago about his lies and his hate. Obama remained in that church because it provided him a local political base; he's leaving it now only because it's become a polical liability. Save the praise. |
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Makes no difference now.
I believe in the seperation of Church and HATE! |
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caused Obama to pick NOW to leave that church? The message of the church hasn't changed. Pfleger's message is the same as Wright's so there is nothing new about what Pfleger said that Obama hadn't heard before.
I suppose now Obama will be able to use the claims of him no longer being a member of TUCC as a means to try to sway voters when and IF that alleged tape of Michelle surfaces?
Besides, what Obama says in public is not necessarily what he is saying in private. |
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questions from the press regarding his "convenient" resignation from TUCC? Surely he has been practicing his speech long and hard so he doesn't stammer and stutter while giving it, but I doubt he will take questions from the press about it, unless they are pre-approved questions, since we all know Obama doesn't like to answer direct questions. |
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20 years too late, Barack. |
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..... many of these public, racist, homophobic, TV-showed, misogynistic, divisive, narcissistic, greedy, megalomaniacal, hate speech preachers - on ALL SIDES of the political spectrum - are dangerous and need to be watched carefully. Most of them are charlatans. "Rev." Wright is probably laughing at his congregation from his North Side mansion... courtesy of the collection plate.
They appeal to the base nature in people by spewing out this offal and filth. There are too many humble, preachers actually helping people, but due to the fact that they don't want attention, one never hears about them. We just hear the shouters shouting or getting air time... like Wright, Falwell, Otis, Pleger, Sharpton, Jackson, Parsley, Roberson, Pat Robertson, Hagee, Haggart, Dobson.... and the list goes on.
Oh, and I dont think the real Jesus approves of any of them.
Every religion can get highjacked by this ilk of persons.
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Obama just said that he "didn't see this coming" that he'd have to leave Trinity.
Is he serious?
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He also claims that his decision to leave was because of the "attention" the church was receiving. Not once has he said it was because the things being preached in the church were at odds with his beliefs.
His claims of "not seeing this coming" are extremely disingenuous don't you think?
The problem is that because he now says this about leaving the church, he and his campaign figure that no matter what comes out of the church he can pass off as being of no consequence because he is no longer a member there.
What part of sitting there for 20 years soaking up this hate and racism don't people get?? I'm still scratching my head on that.... |
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This seems to be the continuous theme in this campaign.This man can't be seen with his friends can't go back to his church,he just started to wear a flag lapel pin,he can't be introduced using his middle name.I wonder if he even recognizes himself in the mirror! I would have a lot more respect for him if he just said, screw you this is who I am and these are the people I know,but instead he looks like a pathetic sell-out. |
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the church wasn't worthy of denouncing or did I hear only half of that comment?
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You heard right.
I just heard a commentator report that the "church issue" needed to be resolved before some superdelegates would go his way.
For the 30% on the hard left, they'd stay with Obama anyway. As far as they are concerned, this was just something he had to do to appease (used correctly because he "gave" away something) whitey.
For the 30% on the right, this just confirms their impression of him.
The question is the effect on the middle 40%. I hope they put on their thinking caps and realize what a radical phony he is.
What's his position on slave reparations? He scares me to death. |
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in order to sway some of the superdelegates who may have still had doubts about Obama because of his continued ties with TUCC.
THAT'S all this is about. |
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to pastor, church or country. Americans better wake up and smell the coffee. Obama has denounced his pastor and church/faith community for the past 20 years because of political pressure from the DNC. He will throw the country under the bus because of political pressure from our enemies. Why? He is a man without allegience to anyone or anything except his political career. Be afraid, be very afraid america......Obama is the Hamas preferred candidate who lacks a backbone and caves under pressure........ |
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20% on left and right (extreme on both sides). and 60% in the middle. Of the people in the middle, i.e. the 60% McCain will get 75% of them. Obama has support only from blacks, confused college kids and guilty whites. And these demographics make up less than 47% of our voting population. |
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