Thursday, June 19, 2008
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Obama and the Triple D Democrats
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Posted by:
Hugh Hewitt at
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My new Townhall.com column on Obama and the Don't Drill Democrats is up.
The GOP in the House and Senate have to offer amendments to every bill that comes before them that would open the outer continental shelf to drilling at various trigger price points --$150 a barrel, $175 a barrel, $200 a barrel. This will demonstrate --as though there is any doubt-- that Democrats are completely indifferent to the vast wallet and purse bleed underway as a result of their anti-exploration absolutism.
Voters understand this issue. They know that scarcity is behind the high prices, not oil company perfidy. Democrats are banking on the voters' collective ignorance of supply and demand, but voters know.
The GOP has the perfect opportunity to wage an important battle on a clear ideological divide between the Misery-R-Us Democrats and the belief in markets and the vast potential of American technology. They should do so every day.
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and the innovations that is quickly making it a viable source of energy for the US.
Go to: Unitethegop.com Click on the photo on the right, and it will take to the blog sectin, where the article is posted.
Then, do what I did. I printed it out, and wrote in BIG yellow highlighter: YES WE CAN DRILL OUR WAY OUT OF THIS! I am sending it out to every dmocrate in the senate, and to Obama.
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The great public works program known as "World War II." Dr. Win the War replaced Dr. New Deal. And speaking of that war, and the Four Freedoms for which they fought, thank God we had a real President in there, not some partisan hack looking to exploit the moment of national peril for political advantage.
The Great Depression (or as supply-siders call it, the Great Vacation) was protracted by a multiplicity of factors--cruddy monetary policy, rolling up free trade agreements, shocks to the agricultural base (i.e. the dust bowl)--but the New Deal saved America and our free enterprise system. Leave it to snot-nosed Boomer conservatives to dismissively wave off its achievement from the vantage of 70 years. No respect. No perspective. No understanding of the magnitude of the crisis, and the fact that FDR and the Democratic party brought hope and confidence back to a badly battered people. |
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think? You want to explain to Mr.Vacuum how it was WWII that ended the Depression, not FDR? Thank you. He, unlike Roosevelt, is a product of Gov't Education.
Needy Lil' Victim, though. Too Funny! |
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Ha ha ha ha ha. That's awesome. Ha ha ha. Thanks for the laugh. I have an important work-related function, and that one will keep me loose the whole night through.. |
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Sadat reached out to Begin. He traveled to Jerusalem in 1977, four years after the Yom Kippur war. Carter kept that process alive with the Camp David Accord.
The Shah was dust. There was nothing Carter could do about that, although some decent diplomacy by Nixon and Ford might have paved the way for a non-Islamic regime. Instead, they stuck with the discredited Shah.
You're kidding about the banks, right? They levered up because that's the way competition occurs in the financial sector--the more efficient intermediaries can function on smaller risk premiums. A few wildcats get caught hanging, and the credit cycle begins its de-levering phase.
Related to the above, notice how we have not had any major deflations since 1930s? That's a function of big government and the big bank. While it interjects an element of inefficiency, it also shields us from the teeth of economic downswings. FDR kept us in the Depression? Man, you guys will believe anything. |
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...for a Newsweek Presidential poll within 10 points on any election.
10/29/04: Bush 51%, erry 45%.
Their 10/22/04 poll had it 48-47, so they got the trend of breaking voters correct as well.
Source:
http://www.pollingreport2.com/wh2004a.htm
Suspicious of polls as I am, I'm hopeful that this lates poll is as spot-on as they were in 2004.
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The Bloviator feels soooooooooo victimized by humble Neo.
Too Funny! |
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You give Carter credit for the current relationship between Egypt and Israel? The Army of Israel had the 1st Army of Egypt surounded and ready to be sloughtered. The General for Israel who's own brother had been killed by terrorism called for the troops from Egypt to put down their arms, walk home, and tell the people of Egypt Israel wants peace and not war. Carter had as much to do with that as I did.
Yes, Carter sold out the western Government of Iran and thought he could Nego. with the Mullahs.
Where do you get you history from the DNC home page?
Banks and other lenders shaved the risk-premiums too tight and levered up too high because if they did not make the loans to people of low incomes. The Banks were labled as racests and could not borrow money to loan from the Fed. under the Consumers Re-Developement Act. The Sub Prime loans were mandated to the Banks.
Your side took a 3 year depression in 1933 and turned it into a 10 year depression with FDR. Nice going. Now both sides are selling out the Middle Class for labor from Mexico and the Dem voters do not care a lick as they slash their oun throats.
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Sorry. Meant Ford from the Nixion Admin. That does not change the fact that Newsweek had Carter up by 30 points. So go though the data and show me where Newsweek has been with in 10 points on any election.
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Never mind 'cootscum. He is very big on trying to define me to conservatives who want to engage me (and I'm the one who is supposedly "needy"). You raised several points:
Are you saying Carter is responsible for the collapse of Iran to the Mullahs? That notion would be based upon a misunderstanding of the deeper trajectories of history. Nor did he leave the Middle East a mess--on the contrary, engineering a rapprochement between Egypt and Israel that lasts to this day. Subsequent leaders have not done so well, particularly this latest amateur.
Second, the subprime crisis and credit crunch is not a function of frigging Schumer, but the transition of our economy from a goods and services economy to a finance-based economy. Banks and other lenders shaved the risk-premiums too tight and levered up too high. When some intermediaries got squeezed, they tried to de-lever, dumping their paper, and getting bids for pennies on the dollar. The crisis was on.
These intermediaries got bailed out by the wider public, acting through the Fed. The Fed brought that crap paper in. Which leads to the third point: given that the public has a skin in the game, it makes sense that the public should say in the broader economic direction of the country. There is no doubt that governmental intervention through regulation and incentives (or disincentives) creates capitalistic inefficiencies. There is no doubt about that. At the same time, an economy built around consumerism and the prerogatives of business--which has basically been the Reep precept over the past three decades in power--also creates undesirable outcomes. And so we try to find a sweetspot in the public-private balance. Your side denies the existence of such a balance, even as they pilfer the public trust for private ends. Our side, after years in the wilderness, has a stronger respect for the market than we did in 1933. We are finding that balance. Your side has not.
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"First of all, this hasn't just been a past few-months phenomenon."
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/dnav/pet/hist/mg_tt_usw.htm
Actually, it has been. Except for a three-week spike to 325/gal. last May, the average price of a gallon of regular had never been about about 315/gal., but has been steadily rising since last November.
This followed increases in 2004 and 2005, and fluctuating prices in the interim. |
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that Barack is a not-to-worry shoe-in for Prez. I'll be over at his more & more visible Fan, John Boy Kerry's place, asking how that Big Poll Lead, at this time in 2004, over the Evil Booosh worked out for him.
I notice today's NYTimes Headline(Online Edition)is: "Big Iraq Security Gains Made". (*Being our SOP Pravda, they tempered it with the ususal sub-head:'But Concerns Remain.'*) Good News for Iraq and America is always very bad news for Obama. Funny(and pathetic)how that works, huh? It looks now like the best Dems can hope for from the winning strategery in The War is that so much regular Good News will continue staying 'under the treeline' from your MSM Worthies. Or, they can also hope(with some basis in fact)that the more the War is Won, the less it'll be any kind of focus.
Speaking of Iraq(and Afghanistan), how about those various trips of Barack's to visit our troops, their commanders and have dandy photo-ops? Ummm...Oh, never mind.
Like I said, James, y'all go on resting easy on those polls. The Repub 527s haven't even cleared their rascally throats with 24/7 O'Bammy Facts yet, but.."Y'all go on down thar, General Custer." |
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Appreciate the reminder of just how "humble" George Bush's Crawford home is regarding his use of energy and the thought put into enviro-structure.
I second Neo's comment about how this would not go unleveraged, unannounced, trumpted, had it been conjured up by some high visibility, self-serious, self-focused Liberal. The real laugher is that this type Liberal would neither think of doing it, nor would they even know how to.
Not to mention their refusal to lower themselves to such a "backwoods", rustic infrastruccture for their abode. |
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Too Funny. Imagine, the Prez has never made any blabber & bluster about his ranch house in Texas and its enviro-correct, ecco-friendly, low-power-usage. Now, imagine, for a second, ANY prominent Dem in America having that kind of set-up and not bragging about their noble selves constantly!
Priceless post. THANKS! |
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was used by the Germans in WWII. Could someone dig out the files that provide directions for building the plants and get them started up?
Every time the Dems say we won't have any oil for another 10 years I wonder when we'll have hydro-cars or battery-driven long-distance traveling cars. Even though the technology is being worked on, it's still not close enough to be practical.
We keep our car for 10 years. It runs on gas. We can't afford a new car that runs on synthetic fuel. So drill already. Here and Now. |
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Oh ya, When was the last time Newsweek had a poll even close to calling an election.
Why not go to Comedy Central and get your polling? In the 1974 election cycle. Newsweek had Carter up by 30 points vs Nixion and Carter won by a whopping two points.
Don't use junk data with me because I will call you on it every time. This stuff is easy for me.
Going to the DNC home page for facts is a joke at best. |
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McCain will win because Obama is so bad that many Blue Dog Dems will run to McCain.
For the first time in my life I will leave the Republican Party and vote for the Constitution Party and Allen Keyes.
Why would anyone vote for Obama knowing what we know to date? That would be 1 racest or 2 stupid.
Obama went to College for Constitutional Law. He did not learn any of it and his understanding of the Constitution as yet is little to none. Obama has worked for the Government and knows nothing about the private sector let alone small Biz. which is where most of our jobs come from.
Obama has little voting record and some of you think he is qualified to be the President of the United States? Why not cut to the chase and slit your wrists now instead of having a rank amateur get you and your family killed? Obama has no understanding of economics let alone Geo-economics. This guy will make Carter look smart. |
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try this one on for size fool, you liberal punks don't like the stark reality brought to you do ya', i was describing what happens when homosexual men have sex, pretty disgusting isn't it, well here's the other, just for you, sincyguy, your party's holy grail, abortion, in particular, that lovely thing you liberal misfits just love, partial birth abortion. Let me explain it to you, punk, a baby, a full term baby, a human baby, not some mass of goo, a real live baby, it's head is let out of it's mothers womb, so much so that an incision is made in the back of this live baby's head with a pair of scissors, no anesthetic, no numbing agent, just a pair of scissors jammed into the base of a live baby's skull, then a tube is inserted into the "incision", into the brain of a live baby and then that tube is inserted into a machine that sucks the brain matter out of a live baby's head. This is what you liberals rally around, its what animates you scum, and you know what, at ever opportunity i'm going to remind you of what really happens. And if it disturbs your delicate sensibilities, then just go to H........E.........L..........L, cause theres nothing to bad for scum like you. You liberal leftists never have been able to handle the truth, have ya'.
vote obambi...sincyscum will be... |
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The 4,000-square-foot house is a model of environmental rectitude.
Geothermal heat pumps located in a central closet circulate water through pipes buried 300 feet deep in the ground where the temperature is a constant 67 degrees; the water heats the house in the winter and cools it in the summer. Systems such as the one in this "eco-friendly" dwelling use about 25% of the electricity that traditional heating and cooling systems utilize.
A 25,000-gallon underground cistern collects rainwater gathered from roof runs; wastewater from sinks, toilets and showers goes into underground purifying tanks and is also funneled into the cistern. The water from the cistern is used to irrigate the landscaping surrounding the four-bedroom home. Plants and flowers native to the high prairie area blend the structure into the surrounding ecosystem
This is President George W. Bush's "Texas White House" outside the small town of Crawford.
Uses about a tenth of what the Gores home does. But the DNC is after all the party of, for and by Hypocrites.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp |
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McCain will win the election.
That does not change the fact that McCain or Obama will be more of a President working for Mexico then then USA.
Obama voters are true socialists who hate Capitalism almost as much as they dislike the Constitution and the USA.
There are not quite enough Blame America First voters out there to put Obama over the top. If there were. It would not be two years and Obama would lose the House and the Senate. Yes he is that bad and way out of his League.
The DNC would have been better off with Hillary. At least she was a pro and not a rank amateur. Then you throw in Obamas wife and the people he pals around with and this guy should be the President and Dictator of some South American Country.
The worst thing that could happen for the DNC is to have Obama get in there. |
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Talking about naked men, their johnsons, etc. and you wonder why your side is going to implode in November? Don't look at or point out facts or refer to any polls because that would hurt real bad like some of those "nude male anus's" you seem to fixate on. Have a nice weekend and come November - enjoy your sh*t sandwich. |
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these 20 to 30 nude men having group sex out in the open probably were just celebrating gay marriage becoming legal in Mass. This is a perfectly natural response to their civil rights being upheld. I mean why would anybody be offended by seeing 10 to 15 men sticking their johnson's into the other 10 to 15 men's anus's. Goodness gracious, haven't we as a society got past our prudish past? Look, these "relationships" are good for society and they don't have nearly the divorce rate that the general public has. So, you see A86, a little out in the open group sex by 20 to 30 nude males, frolicking in the sand dunes of Martha's Vineyard, celebrating their right to marry is enriching and shows just how far we've come, and when 10 to 15 nude males, are seen sticking their johnson's in the other 10 to 15 nude male's anus's, we can all "celebrate diversity" together. Hallelujah!!!!!
vote obambi...Larry Sinclair wants to stay in the Lincoln bedroom... |
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Senator Obama has leads in almost all the battleground states and the new Newsweek poll has him up 15% in the general. When you you screw up as much as this administration has and have such a conflicted candidate as McCain, these kinds of things happen. |
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And that is the problem. You have made more good points in five minutes then the RNC has in five months.
If some one like you were running the RNC we might not be in this mess.
Shamnesty is just down the road and you better not be in the lower middle class or you will be toast no matter whom is elected. |
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I am recalling something Obama said about money the government spent on other things (like the iraq war) on more important endevours like alternative fuels... Obama has been pretty good at raising money for his campaign... where did all that money go? Did it help those he talks about who are losing their houses to forclosures, did it pay for college for those he talks about who can't afford it? Did it go into researching a new engine that gets 40+ mpg? I can't really fault him for putting his money where he thinks it will do him the most good. But listening to the hundreds of millions that has been raised just to get one person elected... it makes me wonder where did all that money go and what good did it do? |
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but this is not about mccain, it's about obambi, and whether he can fool enough fools. Can he hide who he is. Obambi is dangerous because he's a leftist and is NO different than the Caribbean twosome, of uncle Hugo Chavez and daddy Fidel, they are all one big happy family, a family of leftists and it is why i say "fools voting for a fool". Left to their own devices, they will nationalize industry, communications and most of all, energy. This is nothing short of all out war with this scum. |
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The problem is where do we go? McCain is almost as bad as the Leftwingnuts are.
If McCain does not kill us with the Global Warming B.S. he will kill us with Illegal Immigration/Shamnesty which will snuff out our Middle Class Work Force.
The RNC has moved so far to the left they make JFK look like a stringant Conservative.
Between McCain and Obama. We are being asked if we would like to vote for one turd or two.
The RNC better Toricelli McCain right now or go the way the DNC did after 4 years of Jimmy Cater. |
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democrat enviro-fools must be completely and totally vanquished now and forever. These degenerates will not be satisfied until we are no more than a third world country with it's standard of living. We had better wake up and wake up quick, these fools are among us and they hate America's exceptionalism and they will do everything to drive it into the ground. This scum should be rounded up and imprisoned and kept there until when have got our energy needs accomplished. We must defeat enviro-nazi's and there brothers in arms, demoncrats.
vote obambi...cause, if you like $4 gas your going to love $10 gas....
demoncrats answer for our energy problems, "sue OPEC".. |
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In the past year, Gore's home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.
In February 2007, An Inconvenient Truth, a film based on a climate change speech developed by Gore, won an Academy Award for best documentary feature. The next day, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research uncovered that Gore's Nashville home guzzled 20 times more electricity than the average American household.
After the Tennessee Center for Policy Research exposed Gore's massive home energy use, the former Vice President scurried to make his home more energy-efficient. Despite adding solar panels, installing a geothermal system, replacing existing light bulbs with more efficient models, and overhauling the home's windows and ductwork, Gore now consumes more electricity than before the "green" overhaul.
Since taking steps to make his home more environmentally-friendly last June, Gore devours an average of 17,768 kWh per month –1,638 kWh more energy per month than before the renovations – at a cost of $16,533. By comparison, the average American household consumes 11,040 kWh in an entire year, according to the Energy Information Administration.
In the wake of becoming the most well-known global warming alarmist, Gore won an Oscar, a Grammy and the Nobel Peace Prize. In addition, Gore saw his personal wealth increase by an estimated $100 million thanks largely to speaking fees and investments related to global warming hysteria.
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"Oh, come one, supply and demand doesn't come anywhere near explaining why gas prices have been shooting up in the last few months."
First of all, this hasn't just been a past few-months phenomenon.
Secondly, you have blatantly and blindly ignored the tiny issue that India and China; who's aggregate population is like 7x greater than the U.S.'s is now consuming energy at break neck speeds. Oh no, it COULDN'T POSSIBLY have anything to do with supply/demand.
What did they teach you in school? |
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I can't wait to see his new film about how oil is simply a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. We should be fueling our cars on rainbows, fairy dust and happy thoughts!
I smell another Oscar, another Nobel, and another bajillion dollar payout for Al Gore. Hey, gotta pay those electric bills! |
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The War, the economy, the judges; I think it's all
irrelevant. McCain wont be able to be overcome the
Hugh-Hewitt endorsement whammy jinx... Amazingly
consistent since 2006. Now if we could just harness
this powerful energy source for domestic needs.... |
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Andrew Sullivan(HIV Positive Dem-Boy)and his luv-muffin frollick at Martha's and would welcome the White House Press Corps! |
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Bloviator. He'll respond in nothing less than 20-windy paragraphs--Promise.
In his own tiny way, he's Jimmah's Equal in Overvalue of Self.
Castro, Khomeni, Danny-Boy, Hamas, Hezbollah, Assad, Baby Kim...Chums of Jimmah, ALL. And, how 'bout that Nobel PEACE Prize, huh?! |
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production costs that have nothing to do with the Production Tax Credit subsidy of 1.8 cents per KW-hr. The actual production cost of wind energy on latest generation turbine farms is nearing 4 cents per KW-hr.
The fact is, we really don't need the PTCs for wind energy any more. The political and economic reality, however, is that our government has programmed energy developers and investors into acting like Pavlovian dogs who don't salivate until they hear the feeding bell ... rather, the wind investors don't invest until the PTCs are available, and they will continue to act accordingly until the PTCs are permanently abandoned.
We do still need the PTCs for solar, at least for a few more years.
As to your point about wind energy being supplemental to other sources, that's sort of correct. Yes, there are times when the wind simply doesn't blow at a specific wind farm site (although the wind certainly WILL be blowing at many other wind farms at any given time). However, in any event there are means of storing the power generated from wind and releasing it later, such as by generation of hydrogen for use in fuel cells.
However, I do agree with you that wind will not (and should not) be our sole source of electric power. Coupled with nuclear generation (both today's fission power and tomorrow's fusion power), hydro, and solar, plus domestic hydrocarbon supplies, we ARE fully capable of eliminating all of our current OPEC oil imports, and thus stabilizing ourselves against future supply shocks from an unstable part of the world, and eliminating much or all of our current trade deficit. That is the goal, and we will get there, sooner than many people now think.
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When asked, "what can be done right now to help cut gas prices", this was Senator Barbara Boxer response. What can be done right now to help cut gas prices, "we can sue OPEC". Good Lord, save us from these fools. Those of you in California who voted for this moron deserve to be called a moron as well. Democrat enviro-fools need to be taken to the woodshed and their backsides tanned. You leftists should be forced to pump gas for us for all the misery you fools have rot on us and while your there clean the toilets, too.
vote obambi...cause if ya' like $4 gas, ya' sure will love $10 gas..
How do you fools get through the day, you have NO wisdom at all, you have NO idea how the real world works, NONE. It's all fantasies, theories, and flights of fancy. If it sounds good it must be right. Your nothing but emotional nitwits. The world is made up of decent people and indecent people and you should be forced to stay away from the former. |
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Yes our dollar has been killed which could be good seeing how our Manufaturing is only 15% of our GDP.
The Consumer Re-developement Act played a big part in the Sub Prime mess and now our Banks do not want to loan money (thank you Chuck Shoemer and pals). Wall Street is getting hit and you think the Government should be responsible for Alternative energy?
You also give Carter far to much credit. The spin on that one would call for a name change to Carville. Carter was a 100% mess. We are in the Middle East fighting a war because Carter gifted Iran to the Mullahs. Carter did not have a clue and each President sinse Carter has had to spend their time fixing the Carter mess.
Aternative energy should be left to private industry and the share holders who chose to invest in it.
Oil Drilling and Refining should be left to professionals and the share holders who choose to invest in it. Not rank amateurs in the Government who have never even made a payroll before.
Enviromentalism and who should or should not drive SUVs should also be a personal choice. I choose to recycle cans and paper. I choose to drive what I want and unlike Socialist (d) voters do not need a Nazi Government Offical showing up to wipe my bottom each morning.
We are paying the price for the Reeps lack of foresight Because Reagan and Pete Wilson were screaming from the Mountian tops that we needed to drill for our own oil and build more Nuke Power plants along with additional oil refinaries. The Hippies stopped industry from doing so and now want to blame Republicans for the DNC mess of the last thirty years? Hope the media sells that like they did the Obama is Gowd BS or no one will buy it because they history is to deep.
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Oh, come one, supply and demand doesn't come anywhere near explaining why gas prices have been shooting up in the last few months.
How is it that we haven't ever been drilling in ANWR, but suddenly now that fact is the cause in the huge increase in gas prices.
Why didn't we have those same increases during the Clinton administration?
Gas prices are increasing because big oil companies are manipulating them, as they did in the run-up to the 2006 elections. I expect that come the fall, we'll see prices drop, as that's friendlier to G.O.P. candidates, just as we did in the fall of 2006. Here in Oregon gas prices went up ON ELECTION DAY. |
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Pelosi in April 2006 - “Democrats have a commonsense plan to help bring down skyrocketing gas prices by cracking down on price gouging, rolling back the billions of dollars in taxpayer subsidies, tax breaks and royalty relief given to big oil and gas companies, and increasing production of alternative fuels.”
And they've done what exactly?
26 months later....Pelosi again a week ago -
"The House will soon put forward new, innovative legislation to help tackle high energy costs and make us more energy independent."
What's taking so damn long Nancy?????????????????
Too busy remaning the Golden Gate National Parks I guess. Jeeze what a freakin' waste of time.
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Good to see you too:)
Carter made plenty of blunders but he was spot- on with regard to energy consumption.
You are also correct about the flagging dollar's role in this. Unregulated speculation has also played a part in bidding up the price of crude. Thsat's why the "Enron loophole" needs to be closed.
But I do also feel that more domestic production is needed. I support drilling in ANWR, for example.
My basic point though is that Republicans are nuts if they think this issue is a winner for them. If they do bring up drilling, all Obama has to do is point at Schwartzenneger, turn to McCain, and ask if he's going to drill off California over the Republican Governor's objections. Or ask about ANWR. Or point to Jeb Bush. End of issue. |
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Yes, oil production as a whole has decreased in the lower 48. It's decreased in Alaska too. It's decreased on land too. The one place it hasn't decreased since 2000 is offshore (1.773 mil barrels in 2000, 1.774 in 2006).
During the Bush years average well yield decreased by 0.6 barrels per day. Under Clinton it went down an average 1.2 barrels per day.
You see, every argument can be shot down on every side by the way you present the numbers. Lies, damn lies and statistics!
The simple answer is increase supply or reduce demand. The latter aint going to happen any time soon. In the UK where gas is now over $9 a US gallon ($10.60 a UK gallon) consumption has stayed steady for the last 30+ years. The population has stayed pretty steady too.
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Your cost of 4c per KW is somewhat mis-leading. Add on 2c for the Federal subsidy. Not bad at 6c. Here is the mis-leading part. Wind can't be a stand alone system if you want realiable electricity. It needs to be supplemented by another technology to deliver the power when the wind is at lower velocities. So direct comparison needs to be wind plus coal, natural gas, nuclear plants that need to be on stand by. Wind is an interesting supplement, not a replacement.
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Oh, it came from the New York Fishwrap...it must be true then.
I read your posts like I read many other peoplea just so I can see what junk you are making up today. Are you going to believe the NYT if they tell you it's going to be 40 years tomorrow?
When Bush took over gas was running at about 1.40. In 2006 when the Dems took over promising lower prices almost immediately it was averaging about 2.10. It's now over $4. So in 6 years of Bush we get a 50% rise and in 2 years of Pelosi we get 100% rise. Yeah, it's all Bush's fault. I bet you curse his name when you stub your toe too.
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Read it below. Clarity of thought. Evidence in abundance. Critical thinking to the Max.
Ayatollah Khomeni is authoring the book. Fidel is doing the Preface. Danny Ortega is doing the Afterword. Hezbollah & Hamas are promoing in Lebanon and Gaza. Baby Assad is High Fiving with Baby Kim, owner of Cawtah enabled-brokered Nukes.
It's a Lovefest! |
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Hey, buddy, how ya doing? Good to see you in here.
No doubt there is a need to balance environmental concerns with economic needs, but one reason for the high price of oil--and it is an area where the Reeps have primary responsibility--is the eroded dollar. Cheaper dollars makes for more expensive gasoline. There are benefits to cheap dollars--improves the competitiveness of American goods and services, therefore increases jobs--but the downside is reduced purchasing power. Including gasoline.
No doubt there is a strata of additional demand, particularly from the BRIC nations. At the same time, these problems were all anticipated by the once disregarded, but now highly estimable, Jimmy Carter. President Carter foresaw this crisis and took measures to forestall it. Those measures were disbanded by Reagan and his ilk--and we are paying the price for the Reeps lack of foresight.
So, yeah, we can talk about the environmentalists standing in the way of nukes and off-shore and ANWR and whatnot, but even seven short years ago, when Cheney was doing his energy committee, the Reeps were ridiculing the notion on consumption minimization. I guess they figured we could ride in SUVs until Jesus came--which they figured was right around the corner, so who cared?! There is blame to go around, but this one falls on the Reeps. God bless Jimmy Carter, and thank heaven he lived to see his complete vindication. |
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Oil production in the US has gone down fairly steadliy since it's peak in 1970. During Clintons term the number of producing wells dropped by approx 60,000. Under Bush the total dropped by approx 30,000 in the first 6 years (I don't have figures for the last 2 year).
Ironically the last time we expanded the number of wells was under Carter. |
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You are right of course- these arguments are silly. The voters know that the Democrats aren't solely to blame for the lack of offshore drilling; Republican Governors in both California and Florida have long blocked such exploration, including Jeb Bush (though Crist may now be flip-flopping). As to ANWR, McCain opposes drilling there.
So as a political issue, this is a non-starter for Republicans.
Which is not to say Dems are blameless. A balanced approach, both protecting the environment and bringing about production, is required.
Guys like you and I could come together on a lot of sensible solutions. But it's easier for Dems to blame the oil companies for everything and Repubs to whine about so-called commie-pinko-enviro-whacko lefty hippies. And in the meantime, we accomplish nothing. |
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when supply is down, prices go up, conversely when supply is up, prices go down, that said, they further realize that this country has not built a refinery in 35 years and that democrat enviro-fools stand in the way of drilling. These fools must not be allowed to continue this insanity. People of good will should allow the oil companies to drill, on the continental shelf, in Anwar, wherever oil is found, go get it, and refine it, and if theres oil in Hyde Park, go get it, too, and if the enviro-fools try to stop them, then people of good will can stand in their way. Are we going to let democrat enviro-fools drive us all to the poor house. This issue is THE issue this November.
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several percent of the nation's supply of electricity+++++ Huh? Where did you even get that? several percent? LOL!
The Hippies have us using 30% of our corn for 3% of the fuel we burn in our cars. Now we have food riots around the world. Good job!
Wind energy? Fine. Nuke energy? REAL!
T. Boone Pickens? He does not have .50% of his total net worth in wind energy. Would you like to guess how much he has in the oil market? How about the great earth saver Algore? Not only does he reap millions from promoting his Carbon Credit Biz. though Global Warming lies.
When Vice President. Most of his portfolio was in Oxidental Patrolium. Wanna bet he still owns most of those 500,000 shares?
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3 - Wind energy is already the cheapest method of generating electricity for any new construction power plants.
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Don't with to pick on you, but in CA by Palm Spring there is a huge wind farm. Many of these sit idle most of the time.
Plus wind power is heavy on supported from Uncle Sam.
One reason that oil man is jumping into that game.
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A couple of points on alt energy:
1 - you already ARE using it ... no doubt some proportion of the electricity you pull from the grid is generated by wind power, which today accounts for several percent of the nation's supply of electricity, and within ten years or less will account for about 20% of the total electrical supply in the US - which will equal today's nuclear-fueled proportion of the electrical supply. Of course, nuclear energy is also alt energy, so you've been using that for a long time.
2 - biofuels already account for about 6% of all vehicle fuels sold in the US. Where available, it's typically in the form of E-10, meaning the gas you buy is 10% ethanol. We finally started getting E-10 here in Southwest Florida just this year (they sell it at Sam's Club where I gas up).
3 - Wind energy is already the cheapest method of generating electricity for any new construction powere plants (hydro is still a bit cheaper than wind, but nobody's built a new US hydropower dam in decades, because of environmental concerns).
4 - If you think nobody who's smart is investing in wind energy, just check out T. Boone Pickens, one of the smartest investors and richest guys in the US - who also is investing heavily in wind power in north Texas.
Alt energy is the future, and it's starting to become the present. For awhile yet, though, oil is and will remain king. Therefore we better pump all the red-blooded American black gold we can get our drill bits into.
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All the socialists (d) have ever done is loot from the working class to buy votes from the underclass. I would choose to deal with the Mobsters of the 1930s then with the DNC empowered IRS of today.
The more poor people in the USA. The more power gifted to the DNC. Starting to make sense now?
SSI? What a ponzi scheme that is. What percent of the American population depends on socialist programs of the United States Government? The DNC plantation is where the DNC gains power for them selves.
The RNC gains power by independence of the American Citizens such as Liberty and Capitalism. The better the people of the USA do for themselves. The less the American People need the DNC plantation. The more empowering for the GOP and the American people.
The higher fuel prices go the fewer and less paying jobs there are. Looks like the DNC has every reason to gain from NOT drilling for our own energy, insuring DNC power to lead the DNC plantation against the little people for years to come.
I know they do not teach you cold hard reality in Government schools but that is OK. I am here to help.
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This is all a stupid argument. We now have the technology to drill off the coastline well out of view of any beaches. Also while it is true that drilling will get us no more than 2-3 million barrels a day for the next thirty years we need those barrels!!!!
But while drilling will help it is just one of hundred of solutions from nuclear to wind, to biofuel to conservation. It is the mix that will either keep prices down, or more likely keep it stable while efficiency increases and we slowly wean ourselves off of oil over the next thirty years.
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1) Ignore the enviro-bullies - they haven't been right about anything, ever
2) De-list the Polar Bears (they're just fine, I tell ya!). Restrictions regarding any other "threatened species" that are in the way of energy production are waived. (i.e., spotted owl v. oil refinery - oil refinery wins)
3) Drill - drill - drill TODAY (in the Brakkens, ANWR, offshore CA & AK, Gulf of Mexico, etc)
4) Build more oil refineries starting TODAY
5) Build many more nuclear power plants starting TODAY
6) Regulate the energy futures market to be more of a real cash market (versus being treated as a financial instrument like what's happening now)
7) Build more coal-based electricity plants TODAY
8) Lose cap-and-trade ... it's the Oil-For-Food scam all over
9) Lose corn-based ethanol. It's stupid! If we must have ethanol (which we really don't), Sugar-based ethanol can be imported from Brazil for less than it costs us to make corn-based ethanol - and it's a better fuel, too. But still not as good as gasoline.
10) Create a federally subsidized "renewable energy incentive" program to help people install solar panels and windmills at a substantially reduced price (like what CA did a few years ago). This program would be available to individulas and businesses alike. Think "chicken in every pot," except with solar panels...
11) Kyoto: not now, not ever, never
What will happen? See http://botteritown.blogtownhall.com/2008/06/19/cosmoxs_11- step_energy_plan_for_a_better_tomorrow.thtml
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Unfortunately, you guys are preaching to the Kool Aid drinkers here. They swallow the talking points and are wide-eyed, thinking they at last have a platform (no pun intended) to run on! Wow, at last, they think they "got" the Dems. What a joke! |
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Let's not stop shall we.
S/S, Medcare, Dept of ED, dept of Trans. |
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Democrats are dedicated public servants.
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O-yeah... can you say Amtrack, Post office, DMV.
But remember it's big oil.
O brigs, don't forget Wallmart too.
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The DNC engage in as much raping and pillaging as possible before the American people got back some of the Liberty and Freedoms the DNC has looted from them in the last fifty years? Maybe the DNC found a way to control the masses by removing energy from our economy taking power from the people and keeping them on the DNC plantation?
Maybe the DNC is financing this election cycle with oil futures? That would make sense why the Hippies in the DNC would not let us drill for the vast oceans of oil we have in the USA.
We all know the guys calling the shots were doing back room deals with Countrywide as the little people were about to lose their homes.
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Tag off-shore drilling to $150 dollar oil?
How about $90 dollar oil? This should have been a Bush priority for months. Why should the Chinese be able to drill closer to our shores than American oil companies? If we started agressive drilling and exploration in this country tomorrow we would send a message to all of the oil markets and futures speculators that we were serious. When we go to the Saudis hat in hand begging for increased production we demonstrate our weakness to our enemies. That is not leadership. At the same time we should agressively pursue conservation efforts. How about a tax break to companies for adjusting their 40 hour work week to 4 days. Stagger employment start and ending times so that traffic snarls are minimized. Time traffic signals to minimize stop time. Go back to a 55 mph speed limit. Mine the oil shale in the Rockies. Turn off unnecessary lighting. Minimize drive throughs. Turn off the car and walk inside.
Give tax breaks for using mass transit, biking/walking to work. But in order to do all of this we would need a president willing and able to communicate the urgency and necessity to our national security to actually pursue energy independence. We have had lip service and promises from both sides of the aisle for far too long. It is time for action. Isn't $4 gas enough to get our attention!?!
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For Southern Californians or anyone interested in stating your opinion for offshore drilling.
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/
(Poll - scroll down to middle, middle column).
Was 65% plus "for" first 250 votes, down now to 40% "for" in an hour. Seems like there was a definite push the other way. So...Let's get it back over 50% and beyond |
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The price jumped after YOU dem's took control. (2006)
Remember how Nancy P said you would fix it.
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There is NO WAY on Earth you can blame Bush for oil prices.
Oil was fine until Palousy and her secret plan came to power.
This Oil Mess falls right on the DNC and their voters. |
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If there were a buck to be made on Alternative Energy the Greedy Socialist (d) like Clinton,Gore,Obama, Kennedy, Finesteine,Boxer,Palousy,Reid, on and on would be all over it. The reason they are not is because none of the Alternative Energy works yet. Better to start a scam like Carbon Credits and clean up the Bucks there.
Anyone who uses a Computer, AC, Heat, Lights, Cars, Mass Transit, or running Water are for Big Oil Co. that make it possible.
The Socialst (d) love big oil as much as anybody or they would lead by example and not use any of the above, let alone private jets.
When there is Alternative Energy that works as well as what we have now I will be the first to buy it. As with Global Warming it is junk science in todays world used by Hacks for their own political power.
As any good Socialist would say "Let them eat cake".
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Let's see, how many OIL stocks does Al Bore have.
Come on Dem's your hero has a problem with oil.
Come on Brigs... tell us all about them rich people. |
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Commander: Brigs is of course kidding. The real reason is far worse. The GOP ,after getting power, was afraid to rule as a ruling Party. It had the votes to do many things even with the 60 Senate votes going against them. They could have done bit by bit votes on energy, education, even votes for the lower court choices which the Dems have held up: the so called Nuclear Option which cost Frist his job when he did not do it. The GOP wanted the liberal media to love them. Wanted so called bi-partisanship which the Dems NEVER DO AND NEVER WILL. DEMS WANT THE GOP DESTROYED , PERIOD. PUBS SHOULD WANT LIBERALS DESTROYED, PERIOD. But, the Pubs are still members of the Beltway and wanted to appear nice. Leo D. was right. Nice guys finish last. When ole John realizes that the Dems want his head, perhaps he too will rally the BASE, get on with the energy plan and other real Pub issues and he might defeat this socialist pacifist. |
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Well today, Arnold S. in Ca. said No to offshore drilling. The inane enviros ground out a whiff of thanks to the RINO. But, Crist said Yes to offshore drilling in Fla. I await Miss,,La.,guvs to answer. The libs are on the wrong end of this issue as they twist, lie, turn to deflect this to John's age! We should have been doing this 30 years ago but the Fonda film, the crazed enviros stopped nuclear energy, oil and natural gas drilling. Perhaps Bush can use some Executive Orders to find a way to get Interior to drill in some of those 'public' lands that the poor libtards bring up as some way to stop the public from having energy independence. |
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Math mistake 400/5000 is 92% "unused." |
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after day, democrats and their enviro-fools are totally behind $4 gas and until these fools are vanquished, fuel costs will continue to rise. It's high time these leftists had the light of day shown on them because if this cabal is not defeated, this country's economy is in great peril. If they continue to stand in the way, do whatever is necessary to push them out of the way. Oil is a National Security issue, anybody standing in the way of it's procurement should be treated as an enemy. |
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Here's a great review of the facts and myths about the Dem's "unused oil leases" talking points: http://massdiscussion.blogspot.com/2008/06/energy-on-wedne sday.html
For example, if a lease is for 5000 acres, and only 400 are needed for drilling, then 80% is "unused"; or if after exploration, there ends up to be no cost-effectively recoverable oil, 100% is "unused." |
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In the year since Al Gore took steps to make his home more energy-efficient, the former vice president’s home energy use surged more than 10 percent, according to the Tennessee Center for Policy Research.
“A man’s commitment to his beliefs is best measured by what he does behind the closed doors of his own home,” said Drew Johnson, President of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research. “Al Gore is a hypocrite and a fraud when it comes to his commitment to the environment, judging by his home energy consumption.”
In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.
In February 2007, "An Inconvenient Truth," a film based on a climate change speech developed by Gore, won an Academy Award for best documentary feature. The next day, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research uncovered that Gore’s Nashville home guzzled 20 times more electricity than the average American household.
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Which wealthy elite was it that famously didn't even want nasty, eco-friendlywind farms off the coast of their MA estates? I'll give you a clue it began with "K" and ended with "ennedy".
In 2003, 18 of the 40 millionaires in the Senate were Dems with 10 of the top 12 places all going to Democrats!
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Only oil that is exported is from the Alaskan fields and it mainly goes to Japan, China & Korea. Small amounts also go to Canada.
Exporting was banned in 1973 and the ban lifted in 1995. Attempts were made to reintroduce the ban in 2000.
There is an old but good article about this here...
http://www.ncseonline.org/nle/crsreports/natural/nrgen-25.c fm |
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Some answers for you:
Yes, we export about 1.3 mbpd of petroleum products (see http://www.eia.doe.gov/basics/quickoil.html), nearly 90% of which consists of refined petroleum products. The USA exports almost no crude oil. The fact is that we produce certain highly refined petroleum products that are in demand around the world. But that fact has no effect on the price of crude oil.
Not to mention that the total of these refined exports amount to only about 5% of our daily petroleum consumption.
You miss the fact that the oil business is an international market place - when the total supply is tight compared with the total demand - as it is today - prices go up. When total supply increases relative to total demand, prices go down.
Sure the Saudis or Venezuelans could crank down on their production to try and make up for increases in American production in an attempt to keep prices high. But when they do that, they curtail their own oil revenues, and American thus becomes less dependent upon a supply that is beyond our control, in favor of a supply that we CAN control.
That is precisely what we want to accomplish.
Besides, you also have to factor in growth in alternative fuels and energy, which is a reality. Wind will be 20% of American electrical energy supply within just a couple of years. Solar will also pick up something like 10%, and American biofuels are projected to deliver 20% of American vehicular fuel supply within a decade. Factor in hydrogen fuel, and potential breakthroughs in Bussard fusion, and we could literally eliminate the need to import a single barrel of crude oil forever more.
The Dem's approach - which is to say, there is no solution but to pay more and more for less and less, and do without more and more in life - is a loser at the polls.
It's finally beginning to dawn on them, but too late to do them any good.
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On Tuesday it was no benefit at the pump for 18 years, on Wednesday it was 17 years and on Thursday it's now 22 years.
Is it possible you could actually cite where the hell you get this crap from apart from the dusty corners of your empty skull. If you are going to make s**t up at least try and keep the garbage consistent. People with brains are watching and laughing at your ineptitude and total BS.
Every day on every thread the same boring repetitive BDS mantra with the shifting sands of your so called 'facts" none of which you ever cite a source for.
And the reason the oil companies aren't drilling on the 68 million acres already could well be that there aren't oil deposits there that are cost effective to recover. Oil comapnies are spending fortunes on "finding" deposits that are worth extracting but every time they find one you clowns on the left won't let them go near it because some freakin' 7 toed lizard or shaggy-tailed moose or whatever is more important.
Did you know the average US oil well produces 10 barrels of oil per day. In Sadi Arabia the average is 6000 barrels per well per day. I know where I'd go drill when prevented from access to the big fields. We have more wells in the US than any other country (over half a million). Pulling dribs and drabs out of small wells ain't gonna cut it...we need big holes in the sea bed and ANWR pumping large quantities. Stop obstructing this now! Take a look at what Brazil is up to offshore with deep sea wells and they started this about 15 years ago.
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It is really not that interesting, at least to me, that Obama isn't getting it. First, I think he gets it, but there are a couple of things:
The Dems are really tied into the enviros. Also, if gas prices go sky high, you can blame Big Oil and the GOP for supporting Big Oil. There is no real interest in doing what is best for the country. The only interest is in having power. However, this is probably going to backfire on them now. It has been too long and people don't stay in the dark forever. Remember, politics always becomes different for people when it gets personal. At $4 plus a gallon, it's now personal. |
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How much would our prices drop if we STOPPED exporting 1,000,000 barrels of oil a day? Why even bother talking about drilling offshore when the oil companies will likely end up exporting that oil anyway????
So Hugh, do you support Congress passing legislation that would permit offshore drilling in exchange for re-enacting legislation that prohibits domestic oil companies from exporting all oil retrieved from the United States? |
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Because the DNC had Congress for 40 years before and it would take a decade to mire though the mess that was left.
The RNC has been screaming from the Mountain Tops about energy dating back to Ron Reagan and Pete Wilson.
The DNC has put 20+ formulations of fuel for 50 States including MTBE that went right in our water table. Keep Tahoe Blue ha, Stupid Hippies! The DNC would not allow any new oil refineries or Nuke Powerr Plants to be Built. The DNC took our clean burning coal off the market in trade for Reodie Dollars in the 1996 election cycle though executive order via President Clinton.
Global Warming is NOTHING more then a job where people are paid to spew this B.S. |
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Triple D?
All I can say is NO OIL FOR SEX! |
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The Chicago Tribune is offering free Obama t-shirts if you sign up for their paper. If it's not illegal, crosses the line on biased media. |
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Did the GOP not, up until recently, have control over the Senate, the House, and the Presidency?
Why did they not overturn the moratorium on offshore drilling (courtesy of Bush SR.) when they had a chance?
Anybody know why the GOP failed to do that?
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And it is interesting that Obama is not.
Explore for more oil.
Pursue alternative engery (both private and government research)(more economic coal to oil, alcohol from waste materials, etc.).
More conservation
More available alternatives (coal to oil, nukes, hydro, wind, solar, etc.. |
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Help Obama help the Muslims.
Kimberly, the funny thing is Hippies like you would be the first ones to have their heads wacked off by the Arab world.
Bush has been able to keep you safe sense 911 and all you do is bash the guy and offer the Arab world terms for surrender.
Hippies like you and Algore have put us right in this economic mess with energy and Bills like the Consumer Re-Developement Act causing the Sub Prime Mess. Then you add to the mix a flood of illegal aliens with the help of McCain and Bush to kill our Middle Class work force.
Obama needs a economics 101 class and NOT the job of President of the United States of America. Obama could not run a Taco Bell let alone a Country.
Kimberly, Grow the h ell up. Gezzz. |
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in the world of alt energy besides wind and solar power.
New and much cheaper methods are being developed to produce hydrogen gas for fuel cell vehicle. Within 20 years, perhaps much less, none of us will be driving gas-fueled internal combustion-powered vehicles ... virtually every vehicle will be a fuel cell vehicle.
The latest developments in electrolysis of water, when coupled with wind-generated electricity, have the capability now to generate large quantities of hydrogen gas for as low as $1 per kg. In a fuel cell vehicle like the new Honda Clarity, it only takes about 0.5 kg of hydrogen to produce the miles driven of one gallon of gasoline.
Also, fusion energy is about to bust everything wide open. The Bussard fusion "polywell" reactor is capable of producing electricity for under 1 cent per KW-hour, with no pollution, using only water and readily available boron for fuel. The US Navy is funding the full-scale demo of the Bussard reactor now, and the result of this demo are expected to be available within 5 years. This technology alone has the potential to make all fossil fuels immediately obsolete and unneeded within the next 10-15 years.
It is actually, on balance, a good thing now that we have high oil prices, as it is forcing the acceleration of technology changes that will forever change our world - not just technologically and economically, but politically and militarily.
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You leftwingnuts have gone to far and are about to be b;tch slapped across to room. Had we drilled ten years ago we would not be in the mess we have today. This falls right on the backs of Clinton, Gore, McCain, Hollywierd,and the DNC Hippies.
With each picture of Gore and his Hippie pals walking off a private jet. The socialist (d) take a Global Warming Hit. The very people who sold us this BS are going to be the people who kill the movement by their own actions of greed.
1st.Global warming is nothing more then a job people go to in order to make money.
2nd. Global Warming is made up for the Government to control the masses.
3rd. Global Warming is a way for the Left to get rich like Gore is doing.
4th. Let them eat cake.
So the new oil will not kick in for how many years? Bet they could get new oil on line before you Hippies could get alternative energy out there and working. |
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your data are outdated and simply wrong.
At least with respect to wind power.
25 years ago, wind production costs averaged 35-30 cents per KW-hr.
Today, the cheapest cost to deliver electrical power to the grid in America for any new construction plant is the newest generation of wind turbines. Current cost for the latest most efficient wind turbines is down almost to 4 cents per KW-hour, MUCH less than for coal or gas thermal plants, let alone oil or nuclear.
And contrary to common belief, wind power is actually very reliable, because a well-sited and well designed new generation wind turbine will produce a highly predictable amount of power over the course of a year.
Sure, the ratio of delivered power to peak capacity ("capacity factor) for wind is much lower than for wind than for thermal power plants (roughly 40% on new turbines vs. 90% for thermal plants), but the bottom line cost for wind energy is STILL lower (no fuel costs, and O&M is also much cheaper for wind turbines than for complicated thermal plants). And wind is strongest in daylight hours (because wind, after all, is an indirect form of solar energy), which corresponds with the actual peak demand period of the 24-hour demand cycle.
By 2012, it is expected that the newest generation wind plants will drive wind production costs down to less than 3 cents per KW-hr, making wind power even cheaper than power from our legacy (and irreplaceable) hydro power plants.
Within the next ten years, wind energy is projected to supply at least 20% of US electrical demand - about equal to nuclear supplies today.
Solar remains expensive, but the huge investment in solar R&D is expected to drive solar costs down to competitive levels within just the next three to four years.
We need oil AND alt energy to minimize our OPEC dependence.
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Stick Around, Lad!
I'm too 'right-brained', but Dad was a mechanical engineer and helped some fist rate historians teach me critical thinking. Ain't it fascinating how engineering schools and hard sciences are NOT safe-houses of the Academic Left? Nor are Global Warmy-Lefties drawn to hard science for Evidence and fortifying of their secular-religion? |
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In addition to her role as paid Obama spokeswoman for Townhall commenters, Kimberly doubles as Alex's whiny mom in the TV ad. Poor kid, his mom is going to be showing up at his school to breastfeed him until school authorities finally intervene. |
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They cannot help it ... even with all the cheerleading and Obamessiah worship in the MSM, at the end of the day, Dems act like Dems, and more often than than not, they kill themselves.
Energy is THE issue to American voters. It's the only issue that Americans face every single day - we face it when we pull up to the pump, and even in between refueling stops, we see the glaring gas price signs on every street corner.
And with the Dems consistently voting with their tree-hugger brethren and sistren, they simply are trapped into behaving like Dems, and exposing themselves once again.
For all the talk about this being a "Democratic year", it's sure changing fast!
Alt fuels are great too ... we have to drill, drill, & drill, AND develop alt fuels. America is fully capable of succeeding in weaning itself from OPEC oil once and for all. All it takes is removing the Democratic shackles on our energy economy.
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fuels is the way of the future. However, none of it can or will be implemented overnight. Nor is anyone taking into consideration how much burden it will place on those who are barely scraping by in this economy to implement those changes into their lives.
The politicians run a good game when it comes to blaming the blue-collar working class on credit card debt they have amassed trying to keep up with the economy. Just how many of those blue-collar workers do you suppose have enough expendable cash to go out and by a hybrid car, or convert their homes to solar energy? If converting homes to solar energy had been affordable does anyone really believe the blue-collar worker would have opted out of such a feature? |
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First time but can't stand the lack of logic by some of the liberal postings. I am just a simple engineer and logic needs to hold together.
1) Increase in drilling will drop oil prices. It will minimize the speculation of future increase in crude prices due to the increase in supply. And please don't say it will take 30 yrs to bring on line. We made it to the moon in 9 yrs and had to invent the technology.
2) Area leased does not mean that all that land has oil. Please site the amount of leased land with untapped oil reserves. So saying 80% of leased land is not being drilled is just ignorant.
3) Do you understand that solar, wind do not decrease the number of coal fired plants that need to be on-line. And, today would have no impact on the price of crude (we use coal and natural gas to produce electricity). Both solar and wind are unpredictable. To cover random shortages the current plants need to be on line (though not consuming the amount of natural resources while they ar in stand-by mode). Also bothh solar and wind cost an order of magnitude more per KW than our current technology. Nuclear cost slightly more than coal.
I fell better now
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Triple D connotation fits right in with your candidate of choice. His flip-flopping, lies and racism has taken him from an A to that Triple D in no time too. I would suspect it is also from "stuffing" all those he has thrown under the bus along the way.
Was glad to see the Feds arrested those Bear Stern guys; can't wait for more indictments out of Chicago. Remember your candidate was all for the bailout of Bear Sterns...oops, but then maybe he changed his mind? Kind of like Countrywide? |
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Didn't you learn anything the other day? Your BDS is showing again, darn it!
You see, it has been the dems all along voting for things that restrict exploration,etc. It is the dems who stopped building refineries in the 70's to "save the environment- but oops, gee, that fear factor went away, and now they created new ones. It was the Clinton Administration who started importing more and more foreign oil...And, stupid Monkey girt, remember, it still costs the oil companies more to drill than they actually make. Nobody ever seems to take that into account. You just want to blame Bush, as usual.
Word up, Monkey Girl...it costs a lot of money do drill, explore and find new sources of energy. Had we been doing it all along, our dependecy of foreign oil might not be so great and the Saudis wouldn't have us by the balls, get it? |
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Here it comes again, the GOP is "Big Oil" but what about the Dems? If you don't think the Dems are beholden to tree huggers everywhere, you are either a liar or a fool. By the way, when you pay $70 a week to fill your car, you start understanding supply and demand. I'm for oil drilling. However, I will say that the good thing about $150 a barrel oil is that the marketplace is starting to squawk. Now maybe gov't will let the market work and we can get alternatives that actually work well and don't cost a fortune. Maybe now we can get nuclear. |
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Hugh-
Come out of the clouds my friend: Most voters DON'T KNOW about supply and demand...
As long as there are democrat voters, moveon.org types, and Government dependant degenerates, and elitists democrat snobs, (and other ignorant types who vote) then voters won't be conscious about supply and demand. They can't think logically because they're too wrapped up in their hysterical political rants (global warming, free health care blah blah blah).
Why do you think Obama is their nominee??? Why do you think McCain is pandering to these people?
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Add to my options above:
Add Nuclear for most to all of our electricity generaton.
Home heating, air and hot water with nuclear-based electricity would be a great savings....
Then electric cars or some hybird solution recahrged by nuclear electricrty would make even more sense.
Another problem to solve - how to pay for the refit existing homes? (Taxpayers?)
This problem and solution must be comprehensive. Both sides have part of the solution, but the true short, medium and long term solution includes ALL options.
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IF McJuan speaks the ANWR-Grand Canyon mantra one more time, I'm gonna gnaw my arms off ate shoulders, Dammit.
You are Spot-On Correct that Johnny Little needs to change with the facts on the Ground Changes on Oil Drilling. He's already come part way...But, the Demwits can't hijack it from him if he moves firast on ANWR. |
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Ditto!!! to the above. Hugh keep slamming this home. |
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McCain needs to go at this from every side.
1. Go to ANWR with Gov. Palin and make a principled change in policy based on a change in facts.
2. Start drilling in the Rockies and elsewhere.
3. Get on these states to allow drilling offshore. What are the objections?
4. Get going on nuclear power. The Democrats have held this up for years. Heck, the French are fine with it. Isn't that trendy enough for them?
5. Get on the automakers to dramatically improve consumption standards.
In the end, be bold, get going, and stop picking our noses.
Obama and Democrats will be left wondering why the Alex ad didn't work. |
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to them on Oil Drilling, Nuclear Power, Windfall Tax Madness, etc. Will Johnny Little do it?? That, Watson, is the question.
Now, the Nitwits are calling for Nationalized Petroleum...IN AMERICA!!!!!! Beat them senseless with this crap! Hellloooooooooo!! |
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Hugh, PLEASE use ANY influence you have on GOP candidates to let them know that THIS IS THE ISSUE that can turn the tide. 67% of Americans -- 67%!!! favor drilling more oil here, now. Also building nuclear plants and more refineries would be wonderful campaign solutions!!
THIS ISSUE, LIKE NO OTHER, WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS TO TAKE BACK THE HOUSE AND SENATE -- REALLY. IT'S THAT IMPORTANT. This could be another 1994 again, if they just WISE UP AND GRAB IT. The Democrats have dug in, and will be on the wrong side of this issue (again, but that's another story)but THIS TIME, JANE AND JOE VOTER WILL SIDE WITH THE PERSON THAT IS PUSHING FOR MORE OIL DRILLING, AND CHEAPER GASOLINE.
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If people do not reaise the roof now, wait until October or so when people start topping off their home heating oil or start getting their first natural gas bills.
People think food prices are high now, farmers will be harvesting with NEW diesel and gas prices this fall and then attempting to plant next spring.
To top it off, if we go to alternative fuels for heating and cooling - will the older, oil fired systems and possibly even natural gass systems require replacement?
People - We have to drill AND use biofules, renewables, shale, coal, coal liguid....
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I do think Hugh has hit on the best GOP campaign theme. The hairshirt enviromentalism of the Dems is unpopular with most Americans. Why I am paying through the nose for gas while Saudis get richer?
Why is all our wealth being sent to countries that hate us. Why do Al Gore and Obama tool around in huge SUV's while I am told to squeeze my 6'5" frame into a subcompact car?
What are the Dems doing to help us achieve less energy independence?
Nothing. |
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