Tuesday, September 19, 2006
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Ahmadinejad at the United Nations: Praying to God for the Return of the Twelfth Imam
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Posted by:
Hugh Hewitt at
8:18 PM
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Chilling. He asserted that the US was behind the Hezbollah-Israel War, repeatedly attacked the legitimacy of the State of Israel, and made a lengthy attack on the legitimacy of the Security Council. "Is it appropriate to expect this generation to submit to[to the Security Council]?" he asked, and demanded the General Assembly take on the reform of the UN and equip others with the veto power.
He closed with a disturbing heartfelt appeal/prayer, which is a warning to the West: "I am emphatically declare that today's world more than ever before longs for just and righteous people with love for all humanity, and above all longs for the perfect, righteous human being and the real savior who has been promised to all peoples and who will establish justice, peace and brotherhood on the planet. [The Twelfth Imam] Oh Almighty God, all men and women are your creatures and you have ordained their guidance and salvation. Bestow upon humanity that thirst for justice, the perfect human being promised to all by you, and make us among his followers among those who strive for his return and his cause."
Ahmadinejad is setting up Iran to defy the Security Council, and is establishing a precedent for all future rogue regimes. If the Security Council does not rebuke this challenge and impose sanctions, the organization, teetering on the brink of irrelevance, will fall over that cliff.
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I appreciate this post. Doubly so when I just finished reading Countdown to Crisis: The Coming Nuclear Showdown With Iran by Kenneth Timmerman. |
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Hugh, read your last sentence again. It's hard to take you seriously when you think there is something that the UN can do at this point to avoid irrelevancy. If they impose sanctions, which they will surely disregard soon after they pass, does that then establish that they are relevant? We're better off having them do nothing, which will then allow us to move on. At that point we'll have to take action or show ourselves to be feckless, bleating spectators as well (as I think we probably are). |
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Is the prez's fine, fine United Nations address readily available inside Iran?
And if so, can it be easily read/ viewed/ heard/ downloaded/ forwarded/ hyperlinked to/ blogged/ et cetera without fear of Revolutionary Guard surveillance and/or other repercussions?
And if not, will any American celebrity journalists ask the visiting Iranian president Why not?
Btw, dear Hugh, did you, yourself, invite Mahmood "hey, did I mention that 30 years ago I scored 132nd out of over 400,000 applicants on the Iranian college entrance exams" Ahmadinejad to the HH Show?
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/print/20060919-4.html# (streaming Real Player video also available from this page)
http://www.ahmadinejad.ir/
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Sounds almost as if he were pleading for the appearance of the expected one, the mahdi, the Kwizat Haderach, {sp?} the superbeing of the universe, portrayed in the science fiction novel, DUNE.
"The sleeper hath awakened...!" |
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It was effective to hear it relayed on your show with Ahmadinejad's voice in the background, but reading it now further underscores how extraordinary this speech is. Especially the prayer at the end, as you point out.
I have the text at my website:
http://pinaxman.blogspot.com
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This is what OBL wanted: he wanted to strike at the US (the great Satan)and unite the Islamo-facist ilk (watch the footage offered by Glen Beck, chilling) and too, the DJ he had on who tells of an "Al Queda operative here and alerting Muslims to get out of DC and NY and soon." So what does this mean: HISTORY IS ALREADY REPEATING ITSELF BECAUSE THE LEFT HAS GIVEN IT PERMISSION TO DO SO. W AND THE RIGHT ARE STANDING IN THE GAP." What does that mean to me and to us: to me, I know how to vote: the rest of the nation ... DO YOU? Stand firm with the GOP now and in the near future, get involved, give if you can even if it's $5 - it's serious kids: this isn't about trying to decide if you want the anchor or the flower tattoo: it's game, set ... W has been right all along. My prayers for our great nation is that we ACTUALLY UNITE, tell the moderates of Isalm AMERICA IS THE SAFE HAVEN THEY HAVE COME TO EXPECT and then let the sanctions begin. OT: Et tu Russia? They just sold A GINORMOUS amount of weapons to Iran. Iran wants to be able to bark like North Korea. It's not complicated, the question is how to 'off' this guy from beneath him? |
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Sure would be nice if Ahmadinejad plane vanished over the Bermuda Triangle. Would give Americans something to dance in streets about. |
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Ahmadinejad's sure been to the university of moral equivalency. Maybe he's been taking some closed-circuit video history courses from someplace like Berkeley.
From:
Text of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's U.N. Address
9/19/2006
http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=142910
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"Many global arrangements have become unjust, discriminatory and irresponsible as a result of undue pressure from some of the powerful; Threats with nuclear weapons and other instruments of war by some powers have taken the place of respect for the rights of nations and the maintenance and promotion of peace and tranquility; For some powers, claims of promotion of human rights and democracy can only last as long as they can be used as instruments of pressure and intimidation against other nations. But when it comes to the interests of the claimants, concepts such as democracy, the right of self-determination of nations, respect for the rights and intelligence of peoples, international law and justice have no place or value. This is blatantly manifested in the way the elected Government of the Palestinian people is treated as well as in the support extended to the Zionist regime. It does not matter if people are murdered in Palestine, turned into refugees, captured, imprisoned or besieged; that must not violate human rights."
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"Today, serious reform in the structure and working methods of the Security Council is, more than ever before, necessary. Justice and democracy dictate that the role of the General Assembly, as the highest organ of the United Nations, must be respected. The General Assembly can then, through appropriate mechanisms, take on the task of reforming the Organization and particularly rescue the Security Council from its current state. In the interim, the Non-Aligned Movement, the Organization of the Islamic Conference and the African continent should each have a representative as a permanent member of the Security Council, with veto privilege. The resulting balance would hopefully prevent further trampling of the rights of nations."
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Their protestations notwithstanding, it appears as though the left's habitual incapacity to recognize evil in its midst has been transferred from 1938 to 2006 with remarkable fidelity.
Ahmadinejad's speech will be overlooked, minimized, or misinterpreted by most of the civilized world, which provides the perfect pretext for the next chapter in this predictable tragedy and that is his inevitable acquisition of a nuclear weapon.
It's not that the civilized world wishes this despot to have such weapons but, rather, that it is simply incapable of contemplating the alternative course of action, euphemistically called diplomacy, which demands that we take action against this sea of troubles.
So, the sane among us will be obliged to witness yet another debacle, one redolent of 1938, but this time it has far more profound implications, because this movement has millions of adherents around the globe. It further has the advantage of asymmetrical warfare, and that will ultimately be the West's downfall--unless we act.
Philip Mella, Editor
ClearCommentary.com
http://clearcommentary.townhall.com |
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I was struck at how RELIGIOUS this address was. Imagine if Bush (or Chirac or Blair or FILLINTHEBLANK) had given such an address, with manymanymnay religious references, all pointing to a day of reckoning and judgement (final) for muslims.
Good God the outrage would be deafening. And deadly. |
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As an Iranian, I think Ahamdi Nejad is bad news for the country, but reading his speach I just don't see his so called repeated threats agaist Israel or reference to US being behind Hezoblah attack. We must be reading a different text.
Most of you don't understand the cutural connotations of his statement with regards to the so called (12th immam) it is his way of showing his desire for a universal justice, very similar to evangelists waiting for Jesus. I think you all read too much in his religious references.
He is a by product of Bush putting Iran in an axis of evil hence the moderates lost all their momentun in the country.
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After the new Prez of Iran was identified as one of the key leaders of the Teheran US Embassy hostage taking, does any of this (the ongoing escalating crisis) surprise anyone?
He is a bonafide radical Islamist of the first order in a country governed by radical Islamists. They have vast sums of money, an intelligent highly educated middle class, first rate scientists and a leader who is demonizing the US and Isreal.
Obviously when Aldrous Huxley said that those who don't study history are bound to repeat the mistakes of the past, I believe he was refering to the liberal ruling party in England shortly before the Munich debacle.
I think our liberal, wrong headed, friends in this country and in the EU are sliding down Hugh's slippery slope toward another debacle.
The problem as I see it is that this debacle and this regime in Iran has the potential to kill many many more people that the Nazis of WWII and lay waste for an eternity vast areas of the globe.
The clock is going to strike midnight soon and some city somewhere is going to vanish.
I hope and pray to God that in his mercy he will not let this happen. I am praying because I have little faith in the UN and the leadership in EU having the ability to bring this entire building catastrophe to an end.
I am mourning in advance the millions of dead that this man will cause if he is not stopped very very soon.
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Ahmadinejad has been quoted in the world press many times as calling for the destruction of Israel, or moving it to Germany. You might not find his call for the reappearance of the 12th Imman troubling, but I do. And I'm not real crazy about Christians longing for the millenium, or the reappearance of Christ either. My eyes are very focussed on the here and now. |
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Kamran,
Don't you find the prophecy, of what precedes the return of the Mahdi, a little troubling? I do.
I think I'd prefer that the "Hidden Imam" stay hidden, thank you very much.
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I don't blame the U.N. anymore for their moral blindness, relativism, and decay. I expect it, as should everyone else. That's not pessimism or hysteria, just fact. After the duplicity of France and Russia in the lead-up to the Iraq War and Putin's outrageous perfidy with Iran, why is anyone surprised that Hitler has been invited to speak to the General Assembly and we allow it. How disgusting! It's a disgusting failing, in my opinion, to allow the Pres. of Iran a platform. Had we done that in WWII, would there be some moral complicity? Would that we threatened him with arrest before his speech to keep him away. At least his outlaw status would have been clear. (How very undiplomatic.)
We see, lamentably, a gross failure of leadership on our part. No one says the obvious, or bluntly re-evaluates our participation in the U.N. Honestly, if Sudan, Rwanda, Iraq, Korea, Tibet, Zimbabwe, and Iran can do what they're doing without action, then there really is no reason for a U.N. anyway. But let's just keep throwing more money away. |
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From:
In Iran, Apocalypse vs. Reform
By Jackson Diehl
May 11, 2006
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/10/AR2006051001791.html
excerpt:
"QOM, Iran -- In a dusty brown village outside this Shiite holy city, a once-humble yellow-brick mosque is undergoing a furious expansion. Cranes hover over two soaring concrete minarets and the pointed arches of a vast new enclosure. Buses pour into a freshly asphalted parking lot to deliver waves of pilgrims. The expansion is driven by an apocalyptic vision: that Shiite Islam's long-hidden 12th Imam, or Mahdi, will soon emerge -- possibly at the mosque of Jamkaran -- to inaugurate the end of the world. The man who provided $20 million to prepare the shrine for that moment, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has reportedly told his cabinet that he expects the Mahdi to arrive within the next two years. Mehdi Karrubi, a rival cleric, has reported that Ahmadinejad ordered that his government's platform be deposited in a well at Jamkaran where the faithful leave messages for the hidden imam. Such gestures are one reason some Iranian clerics quietly say they are worried about a leader who has become the foremost public advocate of Iran's nuclear program. "Some of us can understand why you in the West would be concerned," a young mullah here told me last week. "We, too, wonder about the intentions of those who are controlling this nuclear work." Qom is a place where the possible ends of Iran's slowly crumbling Islamic regime can be glimpsed -- both the catastrophic and the potentially benign. There is the rising, officially nurtured last-days cult at Jamkaran, and the extremist rants of Ahmadinejad's own spiritual adviser, Ayatollah Taqi Mesbah-Yazdi, who recently suggested that future elections were superfluous because a true Islamic government had arisen."
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How long before the Republican's do well once again in an election cycle and the Democrats blame Rove?
This speech, the gathering of dictators in Cuba, the saber rattling, all of it drives sane people to the polls to vote for Republicans. I still hear the words of Samuel L. Jackson from Die Hard ringing in my ears that Hugh used to play on his radio show, "I don't like you because you're going to get me killed!"
Just when I start to get lazy and lathargic and start to not care about politics and even start to agree with people who write that it might be better for 2008 that the Democrats take over for two years, stuff like this happens that drives me to the polls in a panic.
This is why I think the Democrats are going to lose once again. They just are not serious about protecting this country. |
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The Pope gives a speech on reason... the nutcase from Iran gets up in front of the world body and defy's it.... guess who the press dhimmi's say should apologize!!!!!!! |
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Biblical prophecies suggest that a charismatic political leader will emerge and will foster a peace agreement between the Jews and surrounding nations (Daniel 9). The Bible calls this man the "antichrist." He will appear to be a man of peace and the savior of the world.
The Jews are still waiting for their messiah, since they do not believe that Jesus Christ was the messiah. Some Jews think that the leader that helps them to rebuild the Temple will be the messiah.
And now Ahmadinejad is talking about the arrival of the 12th imam.
How can there be a temporary peace in the region? If a charismatic leader emerges who is perceived as the 12th imam by Muslims and as the messiah by Jews. This type of leader would be able to foster a peace agreement between Jews and Muslims. And this guy would totally fit into the Biblical eschatological framework -- he would be deemed the antichrist. |
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