never has one pundit written so many sour articles about Obama. It truly makes one wonder.
Anyhoo Carol glosses overthe fact that just maybe the reason so many peope are usuing the word historic is because Obama will be our first Black President. sorry if that dosen't sit well in your mouth but it is historic.
Of course the right wing fear monger like liebou want to avopid rce because identity politics have always not been in their favor. But perhaps if right winger got used to the idea that this event is historic and meaningful to so many American that just maybe derining it so much might not be the best course of action.
Carol has written less and less since Obama won. Which is a good thing if all of her future articles have this ame sour grapes tone. At elast Hugh Hewithas reagining hsi objectivity. Liebou?
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madness/hysterical/religious fever that took place over the holy anointed Kennedys.
Obambi messiah is Americas' newly anointed king.
It's sickening that this nation has become nothing more than a nation of slobbering, fanatic morons.
That empty suit phony POS may be their king, but he sure as h*ll isn't mine! |
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obama is your duly elected Commander in Cheif. Get used to it.
Or you could say something entirely unpatriotic and Un American like "he's not my commander in Cheif."
go ahead. be predictable. |
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calling Obama that horrific woed, 'Black?' Oh my God, does that also make YOU a racist, as you make me out to be for bringing that FACT to light? |
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someone will call you a racist for that remark. |
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the townhall racist just did. |
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Go ahead and "pucker up" your lips and attach them to your messiahs' back side, like the other millions of herd mentality morons out there.
I prefer not to and, NO, he's NOT my CIC,...I don't need one. |
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I think you just did too. |
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You definitely said Obama's skin is black. When others say that you call them racists. Enough said? |
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"Or you could say something entirely unpatriotic and Un American like "he's not my commander in Chief."
Frank, I'm afraid I have to disagree with you there. If you're not in the armed forces, it's not un-American to say that [any President] is not your commander-in-chief. He isn't; he's only the CiC of people who are in the military. Civilians aren't in anybody's chain of command.
Of course the yahoos who will run around whining "Obama isn't MY President" aren't very good Americans, but we knew that about them already. |
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"NO, he's NOT my CIC,...I don't need one."
Score! Like that wasn't 100% predicatble! You sure are a quick wit-not!
I'm going to really delight in writing this...
Obama is your commander in cheif-you may not "need" one but according to the constitution you got one. Good thing the American soldier serving right now understand that and take their oaths seriously. You are half an american and not a man of his word or a person of any real substance.
If you would prefer a different leader I invite you to go someplace else. Trust me-you will not be missed.
Perhaps Chavez or Putin would be more to your liking?
Tell you what if you promise to leave the country and never come back I will pay for your ticket. If you take Ronna with you we can work out a "bonus" plan. |
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Lew, context is everything.
Michael steel is black and so is Ken blackwell-both might be the next RNC chairmain. Of course being incapable of talking about race in anymeaningful way if the first handicap of the racist. I guess you can't remember what I wrote about them because you're having a white guy race complex moment.
I suggest you try a little reading comprehension before you try to swim in this pool.
right now you're not even treading water. |
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It's been one big circle jerk, but who's suprised? |
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about what the Constitution says in the part that states" A person must be a United States Citizen in order to run or hold the office of the President of the United States? That's not pertinent, eh?
I know you hate that subject, but it is still ongoing in the Supreme Court (has NOT been thrown out yet) for him so show his proof, which he has refused to do. This ain't over 'til the fat lady sings. |
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Hahaha,LMAO,....just keep your lips puckered!
Do you even have two brain cells to rub together?
You need to visit Dr. Lyle Rossiter,{psychologist},..he swears that librul-ism/Marxism is a mental disease.
You need him BAD! |
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Nearly 80% of Americans polled are enthusiastic about the Obama Presidency. That figure includes nearly 40% of those who voted for the other guy. |
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Then 80% of America has lost it's mind. |
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They probably polled the people in the welfare office.
Anyone else notice how these detestable Leftists are the first to rail against the tyranny of the majority and yet they're the first ones to claim that a poll giving an answer they favor means that everyone has to get into lockstep. |
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I hope you are enjoying your official status as part of the fringe element of American sentiment.
With new voter registration for the GOP having actually DECLINED BY 1 MILLION VOTERS, and the far right's preoccupation with demonizing Obama rather than getting their own house in order, I suggetst you get used to it. |
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the lib-turd trolls are out in force today!
TH is becoming nothing but a catch basin of lib-tard and Rino talkin points. |
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I'm guessing that dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism. |
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for that very reason. Can't take the slavish devotion to the cult of personality. I'll sit this one out. Will not watch the inauguration.
I have a teeny little problem with a guy who lives black liberation theology and marxism.
Here's hoping 'the one' fails miserably. 4 and out in a cloud of disgrace and humiliation.
is it the perfect storm for the little community organizing thug from chicago. Alinsky has a mole in the White House.
Will this nation go the way of California? Socialized obsolescence? Not to mention broke.
Will give him as much respect as he gave W.
None.
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"A wild guess here
I'm guessing that dissent is no longer the highest form of patriotism"
No, that's now reserved for those that would kill their fellow citizens over a political difference...this from our resident psychopath...
"On Inauguration Day, the petty will leave town, hide in their basements or continue to exist in an alternate, delustional universe. Throw garbage? Heck, the RW know that if they tried that in DC on Tuesday, they'd get strung up and spanked, and the videos from that would go viral. It wouldn't be pretty, but it certainly would be hilarious."
(Scarlett O'Hara: Sunday, January, 18, 2009 2:51 PM)
In the same post she claims that those who lined up to throw garbage at President Bush's motorcade in 2005 were showing some kind of restraint.
I believe this needs putting front and center. Advocating murdering your fellow citizens who show any form of dissent towards the incoming President is a pretty serious matter.
I pray Tuesday passes peacefully for all concerned.
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Amen, amen and amen!
Couldn't have said it any better! |
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I'm with you guys on this one, too.
Well said, Stalkinghorse. I'll be tuned into the TCM if I watch any TV at all over the next few days. |
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"...slavish...cult...I'll...not.
a guy...black...marxism.
...hoping 'the one' fails miserably...disgrace and humiliation.
little community organizing thug...chicago. Alinsky...
California? Socialized? broke.
W.
None."
You just about covered it: cult, Marxism, black lib, Chicago, a thug, socialism, etc.
But why not bring in the BC issue and hit all the nutty-right talking-points? I think it's still possible for you to say even less. |
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get to the basement and take yo' meds.
Make an appointment to see Dr. Lyle Rossiter!
'Ya needs him bad! Heeheehee. |
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The opposition to Bush in 2000 was based on the fact that he lost the popular vote, and only won the electoral college by 600 votes in a state where his brother was the govenor, and where the guanator of elections had publicly announced her hoped for role in a Bush administration.
Opposition to the clear winner in 2008 before he has even assumed office is just plain sour grapes.
But thankfully, as I pointed out earlier, this opposition is restricted to the fringe element. |
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#1....Bush was not alone taking us to war. Almost ALL of Congress agreed AND endorsed the invasion of Iraq. And that also includes the Democrats.
#2....Waterboarding is NOT, in my opinion, torture. And even if it was, did anyone die from it????? The Radical Islamists torture FIRST, then behead you. (with a knife no less, not even a "clean" chop-off with a sword or an axe). Daniel Pearl, Nicholas Berg, and others suffered THAT fate. I SAW the brutality and HEARD the screaming on the Berg beheading video.
BTW.....did any of you libs have the stomach to see it??? Very sickening but a "must-see" for liberals who need things put in the proper perspective. If you do see it, you won't be so "offended" by flushing a Koran, waterboarding, or any other coersive technique.
Quit living in idealism, AND JOIN THE REAL WORLD!!! |
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I feel truly honored to be deemed significant enough to be insulted, berated and hated on by someone like you. I sit here smiling as you end up confirming my argument, that certain political arguments are only made out of convenience and discarded once they become inconvenient. You have made my day. Thank you. |
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to reading these blogs six months from now.
I wonder if thoughts will change?
Will opinions be different?
Will expectations be fulfilled?
Will promises be kept?
Yep! Looking forward to it....
Everybody should take a deep breath.. :) |
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82% of americans approve of BHO's handling of the "tranistion" as president elect, whatever the hell that means...So you and others trying to say that he has an 82% job approval rating is disingenuous at best. Like others have said, let's let the guy get into office first before we credit him or blame him for anything...let's let him enact his policies and come back and see us in 12 months and let us know what his approval rating is then.... |
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Just because right wingers say these things about Obama does not make them untrue. The list is complete and true. There are also other things that will be discussed in the next 8 years about Obama, and they will be all true. Defenders of Obama can not accept anything negative about the guy - even when he hires a tax evader to head up our treasury during an economic crisis, and a former first lady who is unqualified to head up the state department during war - they still think his choices are 'brilliant'. It's beyond a cult, it's ....unfathomable even by cult standards. |
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Before you can quote voter registration of Obama's election, perhaps you should read up on how many 'voters' were made up by ACORN (Obama's registration contractor). It's amazing how, even Obama supporters are still angry and keep trying to convince others that 'he is the right guy'. Something tells me, you and other Obamaciders are trying to convince yourselves. After all, if we are so wrong - why do you bother 'informing us'? I thought once Bush was defeated and Obama got in you were all supposed to be dancing in the streets and enjoying the change. So far, not much happiness, except the ocassional minority saying 'now he or she feels included'. Good for Obamaciders! Now please go convince someone else and pretend to enjoy the 'victory' that was funded by foreign funds to elect a foreign american president. |
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1. Kill unborn babies?
2. Destroy our military capability while Russia and all our enemies are building their missle plants?
3. Redistribute wealth by over taxing middle class whites and 'giving to community projects' in 'poor minority' neighborhoods?
4. Deciding Bin Ladin (the master mind behind 9/11 is no longer a priority)?
5. Supporting Hamas, against Israel, because of his whopped religion that tells him Israel is bad and Hamas the terror group is 'god ordained'?
6. Sign a bill that destroys parental consent for teenagers when an abortion is sought?
When people say 'we should all want Obama to suceed' exactly what are you saying? The man's ideas will destroy this country because they have failed everywhere else they were tried. I know because I have lived with socialism and IT DOES NOT WORK! That is why I moved to this country.
This kind of 'sucess list' is not what Jesus would be advocating. Judging by how he handled Pointus Pilate - Obama would be toast! I am disappointed in republicans too, but I am not wishing Obama's Ideas any success because they will completely destroy the future of our country. I hope he fails miserably and everything he hopes for goes up in flames - especially the Freedom of Choice Act. |
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Excuse me, but where in my posts do I say anything about Obama's job approval? I stated that nearly 80% of Americans polled are enthusiastic about the impending Obama presidency. |
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Like Dose of Reality you are ascribing to me statements that I never made.
Please note, my comment was about the DECLINE in new voter registration for the GOP.
I suppose you'll try to figure out some mechanism for blaming that on ACORN as well. |
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The GOP registration decline is not corelated with an increase in DNC registration which is what you implied. I was saying to you that DNC registered people who did not exist and furthermore, ACORN manouvered the election to give Obama a win. Also, many people may no longer be registered republicans (like myself) because of the McCain mess of a candidacy and other liberal republicans concerns - but that does not mean they will vote democrat, which is what you were implying. Finally, obama is a once in a lifetime moment for democrats i.e. a half black guy who is funded by foreigners to the tune of 500M. So, trying to attach Obama's corrupt selection in the primary and general election to DNC future is not only unequivically false, it is an illusion equal to the man's lack of credentials for the job. |
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GOP registration did not declcine-just social conservatives didn't vote in force and moderates and independents wildly broke for Obama. That being said its pretty clear that the center soundly rejected the far right this election.
Yes people who were mad at McCain did not vote for Obama-they sat on their hand just like they did when Bush was handing out refund checks last summer and sat on their hands during the first bailout. Yes people who abandoned the GOP for even more social conservatism are NOT to be commended-cowardice under fire used to be considered treason.
but you are funny with your little whine about Acorn-typical-you sound just like the liberals did in 2000. The fact is the GOP were soundly beaten san tricks and by an opponent who appealed to the center by not engaging in the kind of polazing rhetoric that Americans have come to hate and soundly reject. |
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You see the newest ideological talking point from Rush Limbaugh is "I hope Obama fails because who wants more liberalism?"
The ditto heads around here always parrot their high lord and golden calf Limbaugh's every utterance-Malkin was even jumping on the "i hope he fails" bandwagon.
Of course the right wing of the gOP are going to sore losers and act like little children for the next four to eight years-that will be detrimental to their cause long term so let them behave like spoiled brats.
You are going to be amazed at how many flag waving conservatives suddenly become traitorous and seditious as the far the left. These people have already crossed the line from critical citizen to traitor. These are not the kind of people we need here in america and the offer still stands-anybody who can't accept obama as their new POTUS and oppose his ideas with civility instead bile can request from me a plane ticket out of the country where you they can be bitter on their own. The only stipulation is you must renounce your citizeship and never come back. I'll even make it a first class ticket for ronnnna THE RACIST and Tazzmax.
Just say the word. |
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I'm purchasing my authentic Obama dashboard statue.
With BHO on my dashboard, I can start my car no matter how cold it is or how old my battery as I turn the key, rub the statues head and chant, Yes we can, Yes we can as the starter is grinding.... |
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For the sake of our country, I PRAY (yes, whitegaybigot, I PRAY) Obama succeeds. I voted for him because of the incompentent team the GOP put up, and BIGOTS like you who don't want someone of a different color or faith or background or (shall I say it? SUCCESS IN THIER LIFE).
I do want this to be only a 1 termer. BUt I don't want him to fail. I'm not on the Rush and other far right nutters bandwagon. I look forward to the example of a black family (you know, married, children conceived and born within wedlock, father in the home, etc) for my African American children to see. I may not agree with Obama on about 80 percent, but I do agaree on about 20 percent. I can work with 20. |
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I know this is a hard one for you. I check the atlas to be sure I was correct. What I found was quite revealing:
HAWAII WAS A STATE WHEN OBAMA WAS BORN!
Go figure. blew that case out the window for ya. McCain was born in Panama Canal Zone. That WAS NOT A STATE when whe was born. It was a TERRITORY. So, you should be making a bigger stink about his possible lack of natural born citizenship. |
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That everyone is yapping about Obama being worshiped as if a God. But why not apply the same standard to the Palin worship that exists? Why is one a Goddess (perhaps becasue it is white and immoral?) and the other not?
I worship only one Heavenly Father and his Son, Jesus Christ. I don't worship Obama, and certainly will not lower myself to worship Palin. Stop with the double standard. |
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and Play nice. I'm taking my kids to learn about Martin Luther King today down in the big city. I'll also be singing in a mulit-race choir to honor him. (not worship). My advise? Sit down, buckle in and enjoy the ride. Maybe the GOP learned it's lesson? Maybe not. |
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The only 80 number associate with BHO is his rating for handling the transition. Please provide us with your support of the 80% figure of amercians being excited about the BHO presidency. You have referenced that number a few times in this thread with no support of that number's origin. |
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It would seem you and I are of the same mind about the current state of the gOP. I too voted for McCain and would have prefered to vote for him in 2000 instead of Bush but oh well...
Let me add this; I still believe that Romney could have been a compelling candidate if the the evangelicals had not torn him apart last summer. Only socialconservatives are so unforgiving and so tied to their dogma that they'd rather talk about flip flops so they can keep hitting john kerry-a non person-vrs. embracing Romney's conversion to social conservatism. they forced him to give a non speech about religion cause so many evangelicals wanted him kiss their rings like JFK did in the sixties. See how that worked out for everybody?
And chosing Palin over Romney, even Rusy was a disgrace and a sign that even our send and thrid string choise were bascally worthless. Obama picked the number three dem for VP and now hillary is Secretary of state. You would not have seen such GOP unity had McCain won.
I am tired of social conservative litmus tests that have to be applied to ever candidate for any position in the GOP. Michael steel is about to get knocked out of the running for RNC chair because he belonged to a group that supported planned parenthood. Social conservtaives will continue to splinte the party, just like they did last year, and what will emerge is another McCain because no one will be unified.
This almost insures democratic control for a dozen or so years. Bush screwed up so many things that bar for Obama is set so low that so long as he doens't screw anything up he'll be revered as th greatest POTUs of the 21rst century. |
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It's from the new CBS/NYT poll released this weekend.
79% enthusiatic about Obama presidency.
75% expect a better economy at the end of his 1st term.
75% expect him to create a signicant number of jobs.
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you can find a link to the poll at politico or RCP.
Now you can let it go.
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We all know CBS and NYT are objective news organizations...Dan Rather and Jayson Blair not withstanding....you guys are a hoot. 50 million people just voted against the annointed one....like I have said, get back to us after he has actually been in office a while... |
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the fox poll which just looks at overall favorability
1/14 76% Favorable 15% unfavorable
Seems snooks like you are not going to get a break on this one. Obama's scoring near 80 given the margin of error.
Perhaps you would like to see the Zogby numbers? |
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the fox poll which just looks at overall favorability
1/14 76% Favorable 15% unfavorable
Seems snooks like you are not going to get a break on this one. Obama's scoring near 80 given the margin of error.
Perhaps you would like to see the Zogby numbers? |
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I don't think so. The country is sharing some joy and happiness. Given the many sourful days we have recently experienced, I think a break, whether justified or not, is a renewing experience. If we can maintain an upbeat mood, it will help us eventually break free of the doldrums. It is not expected to be easy, but self flagalation does not seem to be productive. |
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"secularists have global warming to stand in the place of a religion,"
Yeah, right. And Christians have embraced same sex marriage as a way of preventing abortion.
Go sell that tripe to the Elvis Lives crowd...
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The moment you posed the question, I knew what your response to the answer would be.
The reason it was so predictable is that this was the constant refrain from the Right for all of last year.
As troubling as it must be for you, take a cue from your handle and face the reality that the overwhelming majority of Americans want this President to succeed despite their political allegiences.
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Do you know what "argumentum ad populum" means? |
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USA TODAY 67% favorable rating
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-11-10-poll-obama _N.htm
Rasmussen 67% somewhat to strongly favorable
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/oba ma_administration/daily_presidential_approval_index
538 67%...
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/12/obama-approval-ratin gs-not-dented-by.html
We can all find numbers that support our various positions. I would say 100% of americans would want any president to succeed on a particular level or on a particular subject (the economy for one)...
To Use CBS' number of 80% of the american people are enthusiastic about the presidency in order to cut off debate over someone's policies or to characterize someone with a different opinion as radical or "right wing" is a strawman argument to say the least.
Heck I am enthusiastic by definition I guess to see how BHO will try to keep all his promises without alienating his base or throwing us into full blown depression. I am enthusiastic to see how a democratic POTUS and a large majority in both houses of congress will try and blame someone or some other group of people for their utter failures. I believe this drama will be better than anything you guys can see on Oprah or Dr. Phil...
SO Today I will give reverance to Dr. Martin Luther King. Tomorrow I will show respect for the swearing in of the historic POTUS. On Wednesday reality hits us all right smack in the face again....
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when Obama was born. Problem is he hasn't proven he was born there, a requirement of the Constitution. The Supreme Court suspended, (but did not throw out) Berg's last case before it to force him to show proof of a valid BC and another case was brought before the court Firday last, to force Occidental College in California for his records to see if he claimed himself to a Foreign National to garner a free tuition there.
And did your crystal Atlas tell you that the United States contolled Panama at the time Mc C was born, and that he was born to an American who was stationed with the military? and that in itself clears him to be a legal U.S. Citizen? PLUS HE IS NOT OUR POTUS!! so what difference is that NOW anyway?
2cents, picking 'worse' over 'bad' as you did when you voted for Obama doesn't make any sense, but then I've always known you don't have any, so I guess that settles that. |
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suspended Berg's last case before the court. |
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The Hawaii Dept. of Health has affirmed the original exists and that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.
Absent some evidence that the Dept. of Health officials are lying, that is all the proof needed to establish Obama's credentials. |
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typical trying to use number that don't support your position to support your position.
The high sixties in any number of polling paces is enough to show that two thirds of the country want Obama to succeed. Not sure what your point is now but I'll take the Fox poll over liberals like USA today and Scott Rassmussen. You only proved Bryce right by posting those figures. Given the margin of poll error and avergaing all the polls Obama still comes out in the low 70's as favorable.
Why don't you be honest like all the rest of the crybabies around here-you want him to fail.
And that is so sad.
I guess you're more liberal than you thought; the liberals wanted Bush to fail and look-he did. Is that all we can wish for our leaders failure if they don't meet our ideology?
Sad times indeed. |
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I am just going to wait and see what your point is.
If you have one. |
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My point is, I wasnt the one throwing out numbers from a meaningless poll to marginalize others and their opinions. You lefites just dont like to have someone excercise their free speech rights when it involves having a differing opinion from your own.
I have been very honest in my posts as most others on the right have been as well. People here are a helluva a lot more reasoned and civil than your brothers and sisters over at the KOS. |
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We are simply pointing out the simple fact that you and yours are officially on the fringe of American sentiment. |
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I am a rebuplican and not a social conservative-so again you stand corrected.
Secondly didn't your mother ever teach not to justify bad behavior with somebody else's bad behavior?
Nobody is trying to silence anybody-this is an open blog. Bryce can't make shut up- he can however point out that not everybody is thinking doom and gloom like the majority of people around here.
And no people here are not more civil than the people at dailykos or huffpo. Spend a little time in the comments section of a malkin blog and get back to me with more broad sweeping generalizations. |
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Good try Bryce. The majority of the people not wishing bad on someone is news to you? What a sad world you must live in. In my world people want the best for other people all the time, no matter their political party affiliation.
After the BHO honeymoon, come back and talk to us about approval numbers. The people who will be screaming the loudest will not be on the right, me thinks... |
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The point should have been sledgehammer obvious (you can look up these big words on teh interwebs). But very well. Let me say this: in the days immediately following 9-11, George W. Bush had a 92% approval rating, the highest in history. At that moment was he the greatest president ever? Or do you believe that approval rating has little to do with the rightness or wrongness of anything? |
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of course you social conservatives have a derogatory nickname for those who dom't toe your line or fit the endless social conservative litmus tests. That holds typical with the type of people who rather hsout insultsthan actually work on serious issues. Perhaps if the social cons took their noses out of their bibles and stopped trying to legilsate morality they would have been more effective in stopping the bailouts.
You will do well to remember that you social conservatives have no fundraising ability or total control over the rNC no matter how hard you've tried.
And right now the moderates outnumber you guys by two to one.
The new RNC(or rather old cause it will be Duncan) chair will sound the death knell of your influence. |
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I have read dozens of your posts across several threads and I have yet to see you espouse one conservative principal either social or FISCAL. Don't tell me youre one of those BHO campaign paid bloggers... |
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Yeah figured that was your point.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
you can take your Dick Cheney view of polls and stick it as certainly it didn't help the Bush
admin.
Plus if you have a point just make it instead of playing a game. Nobody is going to look stuff up or play your knock knock jokes. What a self important view of your posts you must have.
Did you really imagine everybody googling and researching to converse with you?
Anyways in the days right after 9-11 he was actually on the right track and deserved that rating. Even liberals were calling for theads of the Taliban. And Bush did and said the right things right up until mid 2002. If he had just stuck to afganistan he would be the gretest POTUS ever. He didn't though. So your premise is actually pretty stupid.
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I am not a social conservative so maybe this time you will get it.
Secondly I have said time and time again that Bush has given us socialism while speaking out against the bailouts and the stimulous checks.
Why read my posts if you don't understand them? |
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You espouse no ideas other than attack conservatives. Attacking a conservative while offering no alternative idea is, in the end, just an attack. If you are not a social conservative or a fiscal conservative, then what kind of conservative are you, a RIMOMO??? (Republican in my own mind only) Perhaps it is you that should try and comprehend what YOU really are...
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excellent points you made-I will say that I was just a townhall reader last summer and I can tell you there were some savage fights over the mormon religion on this board. I see the religion issue just like the color issue-it don't matter.
Huckabee was a populist in evangelical clothing.
And I think you are right the "theo-cons" love that by the way-are going to get louder but they aren't going to get smarter or more politcally savy. they've been arguing about Prayer in school, abortion, etc. for nearly thrity years with no effect. Now they aren't going to be able stop Obama from putting judges on the supreme court so all the left needs are two more judges and that's that. |
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awwww poor dose. Doesn't like the fact that I have nothing but disdain for "theo-cons?"
Too bad. Stop reding my posts.
And if there's one thing we at townhall know-the people who first resort to spelling grammar attacks are often the people who have little of importance to say. |
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I was kind of hoping for an intelligent conversation. But I am not interested in trading insults, as you seem bent on doing. Goodbye. |
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How can you call me a theo-con, when all of my posts are of a Fiscal nature. Why are you making assumptions about me that you have no basis for? At least one can tell from my posts where I stand on economic issues, all one can tell from yours is that you are conservative basher/hater. One can't debate someone that won't state a position on any issue other than to call a certain group of people names...but you do make one point, and that is to why am I reading your posts and having attempting to have an intellectual battle with someone who is unarmed for such an endeavor...
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perceptor
You ahve an awful way of starting a so called debate-which is why you have left with your tail between your legs. Typical and good riddance. I don't expect to hear from you again.
Dose-
I figured I'd follow your lead in the assumption making department.
Pot meet kettle.
See that's where you went wrong-your idea of an intellectual battle is pretty sub par. But typical of theo-cons always wanting to fight even when its not in their best interest.
And yes I am CONSERVATIVE BASHER. That is true-I would simply just love it every one of you theo cons left the gop and started your own party. that would suit me just fine. |
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McCain was born on US government controlled land (military base) of a Navy officer. Automatic US citizenship for John. Happens all the time thanks to our brave military stationed around the world. |
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Again you call me something I am not, but I guess you are a slow learner.
So you are either a self hater, or not a conservative at all...My guess is the latter. I hope Mr. Soros is paying you will to make a fool out of yourself... |
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Tell me in your enlightened way WHY the Department of Health in Hawaii has Obama's birth certificate under seal if it is original and valid? Why won't they release it to the courts and the public? thanks |
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They're prevented from doing so by privacy laws.
Now a question for you.
It takes a quarom of 4 Justices for the SCOTUS to hear a case. Scalia, Thomas, Ailito, and Roberts are all devoted original constructionists.
Considering the important Constitutional issues at stake here, why hasn't the court taken up any of these cases? |
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That is a good question and I'd like to know the answer myself. But can you answer this? Why did the court request of Barack Obama that he show the court his birth certificate? Why did he refuse to do so? Why did the court "POSTPONE" the hearing that was scheduled for earlier this month to later in the month instead of just throwing it out?
Have you been to obamacrimes.com? There's a lot of info there. Also this site -
http://moniquemonicat.wordpress.com/obama-proof-he-was-born -in-kenya-fake-birth-certificate/
shows an original Hawaii birth certificate from 1960 the year he was born and the one he provided. They are completely different. this site has pictures of them both plus a video by a man who swears Obama's is not a real document but a forgery.
There was another case brought by an Attorney in California last week for Oxidental College that he attended in the 80's to turn over his registration papers to find out if he listed himself as a foreign national so he could get assistance with his tuition.
I just want to the truth and I find it odd that Obama doesn't want to show the world his birth certificate just to shut everyone up.....if he was in fact born in Hawaii. I would. Wouldn't you? |
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becoming a state in 1959? I am shocked that you actually had to consult your atlas to see when Hawaii became a state? I know by your sloppy writing that your language skills are sorely lacking, but I had no idea you didn't know anything about when the states became states. You did know that it became so in 1959, right? And you took on 8 children to raise? I hope they are going to good schools because they sure can't look to you for any help. |
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"Obama doesn't want to show the world his birth certificate just to shut everyone up."
Ah, but people like you are a source of endless hilarity for us. We don't want to lose that. I'm hoping for eight more years of it. |
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While I can definitely understand your concerns, I don't share them.
More than anything else...besides the statement from the Hawaiian officials...the failure of any of these challengers to offer even scant evidence that Mrs. Obama traveled overseas at the time, and then re-entered the United States with a newborn in tow is what keeps me from the charges seriously.
Add the failure of the conservatives on the SCOTUS to hear the case, and it just doesn't pass the smell test for me.
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Fair enough. Did you visits the sights I listed to see why my concerns are there? In my opinion, the concerns of those who have brought the suits are valid and deserve to at least be addressed.
At any rate, thanks for your civil response. |
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