Don't try to live up to it literally.
Where did I say that Iran was morally equivalent to Israel or us? I never did. Situations can be comparable without nations or morals being so. The USA and USSR were not morally equivalent at all - but that didn't change the fact that the reality of detente worked the same way for both of us. The same logic applies here.
If I point out that gravity works the same way in mainland China as it does in Taiwan, and I really asserting that China is just as free as Taiwan, for instance? |
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All of you that are saying Mitt's letter to the UN is worthless and say that Giuliani is a better candidate because he avoids them are freaking nuts. When another terrorist sympathizer tried to come to Mass. and get police protection Romney denied him that protection. He followed through. Guiliani and MCcain are going after Moveon.org and somehow that's a more noble thing than going after the UN? And that deserves more headlines than Mitt going after the UN? Whatever. We'd have more of a chance of booting the UN off of US shores with Mitt as a president than Guiliani and MCcain would trying to remove Moveon.org. I can't believe the lengths that you jokers go to to defame Romney. It's pathetic. In matters of importance moveon.org is at the top of "Guiliani and MCcain's" talking points? Romney write a letter denouncing the Iraninan President...you should re-read your posts, you sound like school girls. I guess Romney isn't invited to your sleep-over. I guess I cant come too, I'll cry myself to sleep over that one. Your like the TMZ of townhall. PS Your're Hot! |
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A letter like that is something Ron Paul or some other second-tier candidate who'll never get elected tries to do. It shouldn't be something someone with a chance to be president should commit to paper.
There's no question Ahmandinejad preaches genocide. I hope the US ambassador points this out with his five minutes or whatever time they're allotted, and ask the assembly why they would allow such a person on the world stage. Proposing a resolution to ban any future head of state for advocating genocide would be great, especially while the Iranian prez is getting his 15 minutes of global fame.
Romeny could have made any of those suggestions and sounded innovative. Instead, he sounds like a naif when it comes to international relations - not exactly how you want to look when running against Hillary.
Hugh, seriously, if Obama had said something like that you'd be all over him as a naive pretender who doesn't even understand the basics of diplomatic relations. I'm sorry, but Romney dealing with a bunch of sports NGOs is not the same as dealing with heads of state (although some of those IOC members do think they are living gods). This just opens him up to criticism, either now or in the general election if he makes it there. |
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The Kosoids.Just,saying ain't the infest A-mazin'today. NOT YOU,Dude.Promise. |
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Besides OJ, the news today is about the second coming of HilleryCare. How come no coverage of MittCare? Still don't see his letter to Iran getting any attention except from Hugh. Is this any way to run a campaign? |
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*Anyhow "predicts" is not "advocates". Ahmadinejad looks forward to a Palestine after Zionism; so do many Israeli Jews*
Can you be anymore dense? Seriously. You're telling me that Iran and specifically their glorious leader, do not advocate the destruction of Israel ?
If so, please pass what you're smoking. Its gotta be great stuff. |
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Where is all the "reporting" on Romney's drop in the polls? |
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Hhrmmm, where was I whining? And don't worry, Hugh had breathlessly reported on Mitt's courageous stand AGAINST Ahmadinejad way back in January, so I was well aware of his brave, controversial position against Iran, one which so warms the cockles of people like you.
Unlike you neocons, I do choose to ignore the "reasoning" of anyone who says, "Facts are meaningless." |
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Do you guys just like to hear yourself whine or what? I just posted a summary of a Romney conference from January of 2007 in which he made all the points he made in his letter. He also took this position while Governor of MA.
You guys seem to ignore things based on the reasoning of that great philosopher who once quipped:
Facts are meaningless. You can use them to prove anything thats even remotely true. |
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..Mitts's letter to Moon is a secretly coded message promising him 12 wives if he helps Mitt get elected president. Moon responds that he already has a better offer from the Muslims, to which Mitt replies, "Yes....but are they blondes...?" Meanwhile, Cat Stevens embarks upon his comeback tour. Unfortunately, during a rendition of "Peace Train," he utters the phrase "Ooh ah eeh ah ooh ah..." which is coincidentally the code for launching the Pakistani nukes. All but one turn out to be duds, and the one mistakenly heads for Tehran.... Ahmadinejad escapes on El Al with a suitcase nuke... Unfortunately, the airline mistakenly sends his luggage to Venezuela..... |
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Lock this Persian chimpanzee up in an NYC jail for making terroristic threats. We can say that the NYC patrolman forgot his "diplomatic immunity" training.
And after the sawed off goat violator Ahmadinejad goes a few rounds with the prison greeting party, he'll only be able to threaten genocide in a very high pitched voice. |
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No one is better than Team Mitt at holding a figer in the air and seeing which way the wind blows. I, for one, am impressed that the Flipper has decided that.... Ahmadinejad is bad!
As for you Drew, I wouldn't care a hoot if any of the other candidates you mentioned wrote such a letter, except maybe McCain (or Hunter, Brownback, Tancredo, or Paul, whom you left off your list). Why them? because as current members of Congress, they have the authority to speak for their constituents. Fred, Mitt and Rudy are private citizens now. There opinions on this issues might matter to voters next year, but they have no more authority than you or I in petitioning the UN. |
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I am having trouble finding headlines in the news about Mitt's exciting letter. It not even at the BBC!
Should not this bold and assertive move on Mitt's part garner broad publicity? I recall Rudy's slapdown of MoveOn and Hillary was all over the news. Mitt's campaign team better come up with better stuff than this. |
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What is the use of petitioning the UN, which is an anti-American, ultraliberal, communist sounding board? It's our soil, and it's time to slam shut the UN doors, thus saving ourselves a lot of money and heartache. Until this country starts repudiating such base instituions, it's only committing slow suicide. |
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Eichendorff writes: "Romney is speaking to the voters, showing them how pathetically weak and spineless the UN organization really is."
Why doesn't Romney just tell the voters that the U.N. is weak and spineless, without going through this Ahmedinijad charade?
That's what Rudy Giuliani has done.
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Drew asks: "What if the signature at the end were replaced with Rudy's, Fred's or McCain's? How many of you who are blasting Mitt for this gesture would jump up in support of their respective candidate?"
As a Rudy supporter, I would be disappointed if Rudy suddenly decided to turn to the U.N. to act on any geopolitical crisis.
The U.N. is a collection of Third World petty tyrannies that are using the U.N. as a tool to squeeze the West.
Fortunately, Rudy has written an extensive position paper in the journal "Foreign Affairs" in which he said he doesn't expect anything further of any value from the U.N. anyway.
http://tinyurl.com/2huqpz
In a Rudy Giuliani administration, the U.N. will likely be left to twist slowly in the wind as it deserves to.
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Well done...
Iran is feeling the pinch with a growing Democracy next door.
They better change their ways before they are forced to... |
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W O W...The hatred for Mitt is only superseded by the hatred of Israel here today.HH's threads are fast becoming unvarying magnets for Leftoid Kossite Jew Hating Wack Jobs.How damned dare those Zionist Devils have a shining,booming DEMOCRACY in the middle of the Arab Swamp.How damn dare that rascal Mitt point out the obvious to the useless U.N.Ya'know,the same bunch who had Libya,Cuba & Syria on its Human Rights Commission. Which,I suspect,where Israel and...oh...say... Iran...are concerned,let's keep Smalley,Buffobore and Laborscheister outta the UN,as well.Do you all love the raging hatred of the sorry excuses for the Left these days as much as I?
I'm a Rudy guy.But,I believe Mitt can also beat the dydies off Lady MacClinton.If my girl Condi doesn't get 2nd position on Rudy's ticket,I'm for Mitt here.
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__Do Nothing! Get all our troops out of Iraq, has the left says, and be in a weak position here at home. Sit here safe and secure, has innocent people lose their lives. We'll take the Clinton approach, has the UN sits on their thumbs. We will "willingly suspend" our concern for humanity has innocent people are killed. We will "willingly suspend" the fact that, if we had forces on the ground to immediately take action, we would be an effective deterent.
__We all need to stand together, and defeat the evil that is acting to kill humanity. It kills with physical violence, and with means of physical oppression. Recognize it, and act responsibly, not the irresponsible actions of those securing self need.
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Thank you. Mitt's five points for dealing with Iran you posted above are an excellent start. |
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Did you see His Excellency Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon's response to the letter? I think it was something to the effect of, "Who the hell is Mitt Romney?" |
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If Mitt can be counted on to consistently talk like this to the moral cowards in our would-be world government, Rudy could do a lot worse than to seriously consider Romney for the post of Ambassador to the UN. |
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There is no indication the Romney campaign had anything to do with the anti-Fred site.
If Mitt calls Iraq a mess, then he's right. It is a mess. War is by definition a mess. Do you always have this much trouble grasping the obvious?
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If Hugh likes Mitt because Mitt does what Hugh asks him to..?
But this is the official end of Ahmedinejad..I mean Mitt has written "a letter"..Oh My! you don't say..and Hugh has written about that letter..there can be nothing, nothing more devastating than this combination to a human being. |
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I almost forgot, please note the date of my link. This letter was not a spur of the moment political strategy. Romney has been saying this since January and before that, walked the talk when he was governor. |
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Why hasn't she spoken against the Iranian leader? |
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Of course the UN isn't going to listen to an American politician. Do you really expect them to change the habits of a lifetime?
Romney is speaking to the voters, showing them how pathetically weak and spineless the UN organization really is.
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You are absolutely right and Ahmadinejad is walking a very fine line. But he is walking that line. Unfortunately the widespread sentiment in the vast majority of the Arab and Muslim world is they want the state of Israel to end. Ahmadinejad is pandering to that with his statements about Israel being off the map. I take what Ahmadinejad says seriously, believe he would commit genocide if given half a chance, and I hope the U.S. and Israel take out the nuclear facilities in that country before he gets the chance to get a bomb. . .
but his statements are carefully tailored not to consitute genocide. I am all for banning him from the U.S. (he should not get a soap box at the U.N.) but we should keep our cards to our chests about going after Ahmadinejad personally. |
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I agree with you that the Mitt haters are a bit out of control today, I know you carry a small locket with Mitt's picture close to your heart. Are you saying you are gnashing your teeth or are the anti Romney folks gnashng their teeth? I agree with you and Mitt that Ahmadinejad is a creep (and the enemy) and should be banned. . . but to indite someone for genocide, don't they have to commit genocide?
Since Rudy refused to meet with Yasser Arafat years ago, and Rudy managed to grab the headlines this week in attacking Hillary about the MoveOn.org add, it seems Mitt is trying to up the ante by asking for Ahmadinejad's inditement.
I am not coming down on Mitt for this, this is part of politics. I would rather hear Mitt's substantive plan for dealing with Ahmadinejad. |
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Is making a fool of himself here. Does he really think the UN is going to listen to him?
Still waiting, Hugh, for your comments on the Anti-Fred web site done by the Romney campaign as well as Mitt's statements that Iraq "is a mess."
You're such a hypocrite.
Just proof you don't even read the comments on your blog.... |
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But Mitt is absolutely right on this one. What Ahmandinejad has said is in fact a punishable act under the UN Genocide Convention:
ARTICLE 3 The following acts shall be punishable: (a) Genocide; (b) Conspiracy to commit genocide; (c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide; (d) Attempt to commit genocide; (e) Complicity in genocide
http://www.aegistrust.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=95&Itemid=126#1
Romney’s right to call the UN’s bluff on this one (and in citing their do-nothing posture toward past genocides). |
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What if the signature at the end were replaced with Rudy's, Fred's or McCain's? How many of you who are blasting Mitt for this gesture would jump up in support of their respective candidate? Look, I am a Mitt supporter, but when any other candidate does something good, I support them. We shouldn't be trying to tear down the other nominees at this stage in the game. Save that for the general election. Right now it should be about building them all up, that way when the nominee is picked, we will have the best one. |
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Not sure if you are new, or if I just missed you previously, but...
I'm glad you're here. You're my kind of snark. But please, when using French for satirical effect, get it right. It is "n'est-ce pas," non?
I wonder when Hugh will get around to giving equal time to all the couregous e-mails and Post-it notes of the other Republican candidates... |
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Its so nice to see Mitt taking on people who will pay no attention to him! That is such a difficult thing in politics.
What a man! |
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With the exception of the United States and United Kingdom and maybe a couple of others the rest of the United Nations is Anti-Semitic. I would not permit the Mad man of Iran a voice in the UN or in America for his remarks to destroy Israel and America for that matter. The sooner we get the UN out of America the better. There is only one candidate that has spoken of getting rid of the UN, WTO and NAFTA and all the other foolish agreements our Presidents have made is Dennis Kucinich. Kucinich for President maybe not but I bet he would act on these issues. It needs to done ASAP. |
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I would gain a lot of lost previously lost respect for the UN if they listened to Romney. However, I would put those odds somewhere between slim and none. |
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Whew, I was wondering if Mitt were tough enough. Well, now he has gone to the UN! I bet the Iranians are shaking in their jackboots. |
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Romney haters are off the chart today and allowing their hatred to warp their judgement.
What Romney did is exactly right. I believe this is the kind of president he will be. |
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Speaking of our good friend Alan D...Romney is about as conservative as Alan Dershowitz as both have supported anti-gun legislation, abortion, etc. Why doesn't Hugh discuss Romney's real political ideology? Has his love affair clouded his judgement?
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Laborlawyer wrote; --------------------- "Iran is a member nation of the United Nations. Its' President wishes to speak. The UN has no authority to stop this from happening." ---------------------
Laborlawyer, I must point out here that it is actually a violation of the UN charter for a member nation to call for the destruction of another member nation.
Therefore, the United Nations DOES have authority to reprimand/punish Ahmadinejad/Iran.
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Iran is a member nation of the United Nations. Its' President wishes to speak. The UN has no authority to stop this from happening.
So this is just another cheap diversion from the hard issues facing us concerning Iran. About what I'd expect from Romney, the Empty Suit Candidate. |
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The words spoken by heads of state carry much more weight and meaning than idle chatter at a coffee shop.
We're effectively at war with Iran. Would we have invited Hitler to NYC at the height of WWII? |
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The words spoken by heads of state carry much more weight and meaning than idle chatter at a coffee shop.
We're effectively at war with Iran. Would we have invited Hitler to NYC at the height of WWII? |
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I am no fan of Ahmadinejad and would love nothing better than see him out of power (preferably because his own people threw him out), but to date he has not committed genocide. Now Ahmadinejad may be partially responsible for the what occurred between Hezbollah and Israel last year, and for assisting in attacks against US forces in Iraq, and he should pay severely for those offenses. . . but
While I take what he says seriously and believe if he could he would commit genocide against Israel if given the chance, he has not done so yet. I am a supporter of Israel and want Iran's nuclear program stopped, but I also know that 90% of the Arab world wishes Israel be destroyed. What we deem genocide talk from Ahmadinejad is commonly stated in coffee shops all over Egypt, Jordan, and other "moderate" Arab states. Are we going to arrest them all?
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