Yea, that's right, we all had a big meeting SLC and decided that we would all get on the blogs this week to defend Romney and go after McCain...
In fact, I think that we were having that meeting at the same time you, your buddies and McCain were gathered in Mexico City figuring out how y'all could screw up the Republican Party and it's ideals more.... Actually, I think that your meeting must have gone better cuz you guys are being alot more effective.
You and most (not all, but most) of your McCainiac Bloggers are just a bunch of losers.... You need to get over yourselves.... |
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We need Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement, not reform. We need to restore respect for the law and the faith of the American people that their government is not selling them out. Amnesty for the illegal aliens is also amnesty for the corrupt companies who have been employing them. Money trumps everything, including love of country. Multi-nationals have no loyalty to country by definition, they see us as a market, not a nation. They see people as workers, documented or undocumented, no difference. If they can't send the work to where the labor is cheaper, then they want to bring the cheap labor here. If citizenship becomes meaningless, this is no longer The United States of America.
If we love our Constitution and our representative Republic and we intend to keep it we must not surrender our sovereignty or abandon the rule of law. Profits must not supercede security. We should not create a new path to citizenship. We have a path to citizenship, more generous than any other country, illegal aliens have ignored it and bad choices do have consequences.
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My impression is that all of us Mormons should have been more willing to challenge the lies and distortions being put out about Mitt and about the church and it's doctrines.
It is great that Hugh has the patience to continue explaining to you the great strength of character and williness to serve our nation that makes up Mitt Romney.
Don't even try to connect the church with any rise in Mitt's success OR you will be hearing from a lot of latter Day Saints. We know better and we will let you know how we know what we know we know!
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We should not undertake any immigration reform until after another Presidential election. This President has shown his loyalties are not to American citizens on this issue. Personally, I believe we need Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement, not reform. We have the laws, what we don't have is any enforcement. Without enforcement, laws are meaningless.
The borders could have and should have been secured September 12, 2001. But that would have disrupted the cheap labor express and the RNC could not disappoint its contributors. So the problem has doubled as enforcement went from inadequate under Clinton to nonexistent under Bush. Now they will try to jam another amnesty down our throats. The question remains, will we let them?
We should not undertake any immigration reform until Ted Kennedy is gone. He is largely responsible for the 1965 legislation that led to the 1986 amnesty that led to this years amnesty. Before 1965 we allowed approx. 250,000 people in legally each year. He told us we would not have a million each year, we do. Legally. We also have a million a year coming in illegally which was supposed to have been fixed by the one time only amnesty of 1986. Author: Ted Kennedy. Ted Kennedy had inserted provisions into the bill which would have made it impossible to deport anyone, even those who already have deportation orders. He had fixed it so we would get to pay for the lawyers for the illegals to contest their cases. As far as any enforcement goes we were just supposed to believe them that this time they really, really mean it. |
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Can't you see that McCain fractures the GOP in a way that the GOP might never recover from? Just read the posts all over the blogosphere.
The best thing the Democrats could ever hope for is for the GOP to break apart. We would basically give the country to the socialist left. Is that what WE want to happen? McCain is the ticket for the libs for this exact reason. It is one of the reasons they push him and why the freaking NY Times endorses McCain. They know McCain tears the party apart.
If McCain fools enough people to vote for him, the damage to the party would be fatal. For the sake of the party, for the conservative movement, for the world..... please consider Mitt or Rudy at this point. You might not like them all that much, but with Mitt or Rudy the GOP will not fracture and we would have a great chance to win the White House come November.
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On the immigration debate there are two discreet pieces:
(1) actually controlling the physical borders; and (2) what to do with the people that are already here.
McCain's preferences on (2) are where his critics have the most traction.
On (1), compared to the status quo--which it seems the GOP universally just woke up and discovered wasn't working--McCain has been pushing to increase enforcement for a while.
Overall, the immigration reform bill was a political compromise -- and one pushed by Bush at that -- but it included significant enforcement provisions. Here's a negative review of the 2007 version by an immigrant right's group:
http://www.nilc.org/immlawpolicy/CIR/cir027.htm
and here's the negative review of the 2006 version:
http://www.nilc.org/immlawpolicy/CIR/cir017.htm
And as for the original proposal, which gets off lighter (and doesn't include amendments):
http://www.nilc.org/immlawpolicy/CIR/SAOIA_analysis_070805. pdf
Border enforcement was always part of the plan, there's just lots of questions re: effectiveness at the outset.
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I can think of MANY ways to tout Rudy
1. Fantastic leader in a pinch
2. Mr. Law & Order
3. Sharp as a tack.
4. Understands allah's gangsters
5. Understands economics better than anyone other than Romney
6. True tax cutter
Since I don't want to harm his chances I DIDN'T bring up the other issue, the truth is the most important thing that gets lost in these discussions. |
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Rudy still justs wants to ID all the illegal aliens, which is pretty much the same as McCain/Kennedy amnesty/banana.
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Here's what happened last night in little Connecticut, for a taste of how some *real people, real voters* not yet heard from (as opposed to pundits and poll-takers) are feeling about this election.
My husband and I attended the Connecticut Republican Straw Poll in Middletown last night, and WOW were we in for an unexpected thrill! As far as we could judge by the buttons and signs people were wearing and holding, we expected that Ron Paul would take first place and McCain second.
So, imagine our joy when the results were announced, starting from the bottom, and both Paul's and McCain's numbers had been called before we heard "our man Mitt's!"
Here is the vote breakdown, from the total of 382 votes cast:
Mitt Romney 136 votes---------------- 35.6%
John McCain 104 votes---------------- 27.2%
Ron Paul 96 votes---------------- 25.1%
Rudy Giuliani 34 votes-----------------8.9%
Mike Huckabee 9 votes-----------------2.4%
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Questions for illegal apologists like John McCain and his supporters.
Why does The National Council of the Race (la raza in spanish) and the Chamber of Commerce get to negotiate a "Comprehensive Shafting of The American Citizens" behind closed doors? Since when does an organization representing foreign nationals breaking our laws get to rewrite our immigration laws to suit the lawbreakers? Isn't this akin to allowing NAMBLA to rewrite our laws regarding child predators? Or allowing organized crime syndicates to rewrite racketeering, gambling, prostitution, and extortion laws?
We The People are being told by our representatives that we should sit down and shut up while they invite in the entire world. We The People should get some say in this matter. Another amnesty will set off a stampede like we have never seen before. There is not much time to save our country. All the money and power are on the side of shoving this amnesty down our throats. John McCain has been leading the charge. He will never get my vote. |
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of Rudy, and hope he ends up on our ticket. You sure did pick a funny topic to tout as a strength of Rudy. I think you know better. We BOTH know better. |
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they also were going to print an article about
juan and an involvement concerning a female lobbyist..and he threatened legal action..so they backed off...for the time being..but if he's nominated...BOOM! GEEE.JUST WHAT I WANTED
THE N. Y. TIMES FAVORITE CANDIDATE TO OPPOSE HILLARY! c/mon nit wits...isnt that enough to scare the spit out of you??!
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on Dec. 20th!
For anyone whose "first priority" is "national security," Mitt Romney is THE GUY! He has been the very strongest in the debates etc. for ETL! ENFORCE THE LAW!
From his campaign "Agenda" under the "Solutions to New Global Challenges" section:
1. "Build a Stronger Military"
2. "Preserve & Protect our Borders"
Anybody else see the debates in New Hampshire in which Romney *got in McCain's face* about the "in effect" amnesty of granting illegals permanent residency through the "Z VISAS" of the McCain-Kennedy Immigration Bill? |
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John McCain has not changed his mind at all. His "solution" is still amnesty, after he has gotten Gov's Napolitano, Richarson, Schartenegger, and Perry (all amnesty supporters) to say the border is secure. His comment was "I'll build the goddamn fence if that's what they want." Yeah, right. I've had enough of his contempt of American citizens.
From Pat Buchanan's 1/25/08 column:
In 2004, the voters of Arizona, by 56 percent to 44 percent, enacted Proposition 200, requiring proof of citizenship before an individual may vote or receive state benefits. Forty-six percent of Hispanics voted for Prop. 200, giving the lie to those who say Hispanics support the illegal invasion of their country. Over 190,000 Arizonans petitioned to put Prop. 200 on the ballot. As it simply required proof of citizenship before receiving the benefits and privileges of citizenship, who could oppose it? Answer: the entire GOP congressional delegation, led by Sen. John McCain. This is the same John McCain who battled the border fence and colluded with Teddy Kennedy on the amnesty bill rejected by Congress last year after a national uproar. Bottom line: If the presidential race is between Hillary and Amnesty John, the border security battle is over and lost. |
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IF McCain is so confident about winning, WHY has he not resigned from the Senate? |
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You forgot to add that Hugh was for immigration reform way back when until he hitched a ride on the Mitt bandwagon and the Mitt braintrust decided that immigration was a way to use an issue against McCain in the primaries. So it is also disgracefully dishonest of Hugh to use immigration now like this and a flip flop for his own advantage to try to get his man crush nominated (adminstration job?) and book sold.
Hugh has destroyed his reputation and for nothing. The best man -- McCain -- will be nominated and hopefully win in Nomvember! |
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"On immigration (which has a nat'l security component), I believe McCain will enforce and close the border (and not just the Southern), if anyone will."
ALL EVIDENCE to the CONTRARY!!!!!
"Even if it's not his first priority, he's made a promise on this that the guy will keep."
That and 50 cents will get you a soda!
"Mitt's is better than Rudy on this, . . ."
TRUE!!!
". . but I doubt his ability to force through actual construction and question his true commitment on this."
ALL EVIDENCE to the CONTRARY!!! |
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your comments (gunlock bill) i can respect! even tho we are pages apart on romney..your comments
about if mitt wins the nomination you will support him..because you know hillary is by the far VERY BAD NEWS FOR AMERICA!I'LL BE VERY HONEST
..at this point iam not ready to be as noble as you..concerning juan! there are many reasons i dont like juan ..as a candidate for pres...but one of the biggest reasons..his temper is bad news...and many of his asociates in congress have gone public over the years..and iam talking about GOP people! juan swears using the most severe terms..hillary cries! i want to vote for somebody better than me and some other joe schmoe
(no offense intended) of the streets! juan is not that man! iam sure i have not convinced you of anything..but iam just being honest ! elvis |
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the same cut and paste, here we go.
McCain filed a brief in the Supreme Court with several DEMOCRATS against the Wisconsin Right to Life organization challenging its right to run informative ads prior to an election. Wisconsin Right to Life won.
McCain claims a solid pro-life record, but when push came to shove he opted to use his anti-free speech law to muzzle a pro-life group. McCain also claims he’ll appoint conservative judges, but–
The blunt fact is that such judges would be innately hostile to schemes like campaign finance reform, a signature McCain issue. It is not for nothing that Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito were in the majority ruling against McCain’s side in the Wisconsin Right to Life case last term.
McCain went 0-3 in that one case, against freedom of speech, against right to life and against the two conservatives President Bush has appointed to the SCOTUS. McCain didn’t have to file an amicus brief in this case. He chose to, making himself a partisan with the DEMOCRATS in it.
The problem with McCain is the battles he chooses to fight and the enemies he chooses to make. McCain consistently chooses the wrong battles and makes enemies out of the very people he now expects to carry him to the White House.
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But since you asked why some of us might think McCain is better than Rudy or Mitt, here goes:
On national security, McCain spent years advocating not just for patience, but for growing the military and for a larger presence in Iraq. When no one else in the GOP was articulating the WHY we're there, he did. (Bush tried, but he's never been good with the bully pulpit). He's a good mix of hawk and realist, with plenty of experience and connections in the area. And he's got skin in the game -- his kids are at risk. He comes across as someone who understands the global stakes, not just with the Islamic world, but with China and other developing countries. Moreover, his instincts have generally been right over the years (see '83)--giving confidence in his ability to respond to crises.
Rudy's gut is probably in the right place and he's got some exposure to this world -- but I worry some about his articulation and ability to string together our allies.
With Mitt, he's untested, fine -- and he says some of the right things, but I don't sense he fully gets it. You can see his comfort level talking economics that just isn't there on the foreign policy front...and if you don't know that reliance on the State Dept. is dangerous, that worries me.
For me, the one principal job of the feds. is national security, so it's pretty important.
On immigration (which has a nat'l security component), I believe McCain will enforce and close the border (and not just the Southern), if anyone will. Even if it's not his first priority, he's made a promise on this that the guy will keep. Mitt's is better than Rudy on this, but I doubt his ability to force through actual construction and question his true commitment on this. He's no Tancredo. And Rudy trails all three.
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"That is how I feel . . . "
So you are an emotional not logical person. That explains a lot. |
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"Really? Santorum's lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union is 88. John McCain's is 82.3."
So Santorum is more conservative that McCain RIGHT!!!
And McCains LIFETIME rating is a lot higher than his rating for the last year available right? RIGHT!!!!!
Wasn't his last year about 65?
So McCain use to be conservative but is no more.
So Joe don't try and sell me on McCain being a conservative now. Because he isn't.
You should at least be honest about it. |
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That is how I feel about Mitt Romney, the difference being I am smart enough to commit to support him if he is the nominee. I know who the true danger is.
I would welcome McCain in the oval office. I would not at all worry if Mitt Romney somehow won this thing (I think he is weak and will lose but I suppose anything is possible). But I do fear the damage Hillary and her coven could do backed by a Democrat congress.
And I do not believe in winning by losing, I believe in winning by winning. |
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Don't even pretend to by a Rudy supporter, when I was supporting Rudy here (when McCain was down) everyone was saying how horrible he was. Spare me. When I promoted Fred Thompson, I was told how horrible he was. You are only for Mitt Romney, which is fine, but at least be honest about it.
I will say it again, I ranked my candidates Fred Thompson, John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, and Mike Huckabee. In that order. |
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A RINO is someone who would reject McCain as the nominee and either sit out or vote for Hillary.
Because that is nuts. http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/9f591751-f113-4c3 b-a6ec-d25f332666b7
Like so many McCain critics, Limbaugh turned to former Senator Rick Santorum--"whose conservative credentials are beyond question"--as an expert witness. "I don't hardly agree with him on hardly any issues," Santorum said.
Really? Santorum's lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union is 88. John McCain's is 82.3. One would suppose there might be some overlap. The difference between a real conservative and a phony one apparently lies in those six points.
Although many others have been as critical of McCain, perhaps no one has been as hypocritical. In 2006, when Santorum was running for reelection, he asked McCain to come to Pennsylvania to campaign on his behalf. When McCain obliged, Santorum put the video on his campaign website, listing it first among "key events" of the year. That's gratitude, Santorum-style.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/0 00/014/651mibdg.asp?pg=2
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You people who support McCain let me ask you this...
Who would YOU consider to be a RINO in the GOP these day? Do you have any names? |
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Since a few people are going to support McCain regardless of his liberal anti GOP record I have a simple question for you people...
Exactly how is McCain better than Rudy or Mitt on the issues of National Security, Economics, and the War on terror?
I'm guessing that since you are willing to destroy the GOP by electing this RINO named John McCain, you must have some solid points about the man that show he is better on these issues than Mitt or Rudy. |
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keep trying to sell us on McCain.
He may win the nomination but John McCain will NEVER be President.
If he gets the nomination the LSM that is pushing him now will butcher him like a pig.
So you McCainiacs may celebrate, but only for a short time. |
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I warn everyone to stop attempting to blackmail others by threatening to personally not vote for one candidate or another. You can argue that others may not vote for a certain candidate. But when you say you will not personally support a candidate, I will dismiss what you say. You are attempting blackmail. Only a spineless person submits to blackmail. |
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Let's see, which candidate did all of these things:
(1) denied support for Reagan?
(2) stated he was pro-choice?
(3) supported "gay rights"?
(4) imposed mandatory health care requirements?
(5) actually RAISED taxes by hundreds of millions of dollars?
(6) stated he wanted to tax all political contributions?
(7) supported civil unions?
(8) had his state fall 10 notches in terms of "business friendliness"
(9) offered a $20 billion/yr. bailout of a failed welfare state (Michigan)?
(10) wants to nationalize insurance for "catastrophes"?
(11) thought the 2005 immigration bill was "reasonable"?
(12) indicated that he did't support the Bush 2001 tax cuts?
(13) presided over a state where residents fled and job growth lagged well behind national averages, despite the presence of top-flight universities with huge endowments?
(14) left the GOP in worst shape than when he first was elected to office?
Now people could support this guy, fine. But if you do, can you really say you're in the position to tell others that they AREN'T conservative? LOL
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LETS see if the educated voters are in LOCK STEP with the PRAETORIAN rightwing radio and tv host in trashing John Mccain...... and HILLARY CLINTON. |
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I'm at best very mildly green, but only to the extent that it helps rather than hurts (more or less a cost benefit approach with a default to doing nothing) -- e,.g., I'll recycle, cut down on smog sources, etc.
My take on global warming is that it's overblown, but there are prudent reasons to make improvements where it makes sense, even as a hedge. More importantly now, national security is STRONGLY calling to minimize our oil use any way we can.
There are non-regulatory steps that can be taken, but there are also industries that are their own worst enemies. Why is it foreign automakers don't seem to have any problems with CAFE? Even when they build cars in the U.S.? But domestic manufacturers go apoplectic.
On some level, it's a good thing when Cleveland's rivers aren't on fire, or we can see the mountains in Southern California. Screw carbon-offsets and Kyoto, but there's room for rational improvement. If that cuts off funds from our Wahhabi 'friends,' or puts a wind farm in Ted Kennedy's backyard view, so much the better.
BTW, when is some American politician going to start pushing for freedom of religion in the Middle East? Last I checked it was Article 18 of the UN Declaration of Rights. If the bastards blowing themselves up want to seek protection from the UN, let's go after their sponsoring countries' own weak spots... |
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I thought national polls don't mean anything?
heeheee.
McCain will win these states on Super Tuesday regardless what happens in FL.
CT,NJ,NY,CA,MN,IL and AZ
Huckster might win a couple (Alabama-MC&HUCK tie)
Romney will win a few.
McCain will have the lead in delegates after Feb 2nd.
Feb 12th. McCain wins VA & DC.
McCain will win FL because he owns completely certain voting blocs that Romney can't compete in because then he wouldn't be pure enough to get the BOOMSHAK vote.
HHEEHHHEEEE.
Go John McCain!!!!!
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The base actually prefers a war hero who doesn’t pander to a flip-flopper who will say whatever he thinks you want to hear just to win an election.
“And let’s not forget how that shamnesty debacle was attempted last summer.”
More lies from the liberalcons. McCain is the one who actually built a coalition of conservative Reps and moderate Dems to close our border! Do you acknowledge that? Of course not because both you & Malkin are sophists.
McCain is the one who actually dealt with illegals now living here in a pragmatic and commonsensical way. Whereas you support deporting 5% of the population which would destroy our economy. You somehow never mention the fact that the Courts have given deportees the right to petition the Courts so the backlog would be decades long and the expense would be in the trillions if not more.
Furthermore, McCain’s plan was authored by Senator Kyl- you’re favorite senator so an attack on McCain on this issue is an attack against Jon Kyl, not that you care.
McCain’s pursuit of border security didn’t alienate Latinos as you and your ilk continue to do. If you keep up your nativism, which is what really motivates your sophistry, then the Republicans will lose the latino vote for generations and that means we will not be able to win the majority of congress, state houses or the White House.
Shame on you nativist sophists. To betray your Party just to promote Mitt Romney, a man who truly put amnesty into action as he is the only Republican candidate who actually hired illegal aliens to work for him, and who has changed his position on this issue too many times to count (even did it 3 weeks ago) is beyond disgusting.
If we have terrorists cross our now open borders and kill American citizens their blood will be on your hands Hugh Hewitt and Michele Malkin because your crown demonized its proponents and demagogued this issue thereby killing any chance of Senator Kyl’s bill from passing. |
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There are no real conservatives that support John McCain. Well, there are no thinking, smart conservatives who support McCain.
If you find yourself lining up with McCain, you are a left leaning person on at least a few issues. That alone should make you McCain supporters hang your heads in shame. The last thing I would want as a conservative would be to have liberal leaning beliefs..because liberalism is for losers, for suckers, for emotional simpletons.
It's these left leaning folks in our party that have weakened it to the point that we lost in 2006. Now these same left leaning " Republicans " are pushing the ultimate RINO on us... John " I might become a Democrat " McCain.
Last time I checked, the GOP was supposed to CRUSH liberalism, not join them. McCain is one of them on the left. This is why the liberal media loves the guy and why John Kerry considered McCain as his VP in 2004.
McCain is a disgrace to the GOP regardless of his military service 4 decades ago. He has to be stopped if capitalism and American power are to continue. Global warming cap and trade schemes?? What a loser. If you think man made global warming is real you expose yourself as a fool who buys junk science and hysteria. I would be happy to discuss the science if anyone is interested because their is ZERO proof CO2 causes warming. ZERO.
You people who support McCain are a disgrace to the GOP when you have access to his liberal, anti conservative record.
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will look very different when Giuliani drops out, and endorses McCain. Even if Romney manages to win Florida by a point or two, McCain will maintain his edge in the important Super Tues. states, bouyed by getting most of Rudy's supporters. The real key for McCain is to win Florida, or keep it close. If Romney doesn't win by 5-10 points, it will not give him the momentum he needs in the states where McCain is very strong. |
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Joe, So the guy that wants to add upwards of over 100 million new "Americans" within a generation through his loose immigration policies is an environmentalist? Play it anyway you want, but the single greatest environmental act we could bestow upon our country is to control our population -- primarily through a much more restrictive immigration policy. Anyway you cut it, more people equals a greater impact on the earth, more pollution, more usage of resources s etc. If McCain is a real environmentalist he would be advocating for ridding us of illegals and restricting legal immigration. |
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That's a lot better "The premise of man made global warming..."
Boomshak: A simple question: Did you or did you not ever serve in the armed forces or (other NS apparatus) the United States of America?
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Rasmussen just released his latest NATIONAL PRESIDENTIAL TRACKING POLL. It's a statistical tie! Here's the data:
"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows John McCain and Mitt Romney are starting to pull away from the rest of the field in the race for the Republican Presidential Nomination. McCain earns 27% of the vote while Romney attracts 25%. These are the first results based entirely upon interviews conducted after Fred Thompson dropped out of the race. Trailing the frontrunners are Mike Huckabee at 17%, Rudy Giuliani at 12%, and Ron Paul at 6% (see recent daily numbers)."
COSELL, maybe you should be more nervous than you are. Romney wins Fl and he will explode into the lead nationally. |
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Mark Levin, a longtime confidant of both Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity who now hosts his own increasingly popular talk show, took the anti-McCain argument a step further on his show last Wednesday. "At this point, anybody who supports John McCain and claims to be a conservative, let me be blunt: You're not a conservative."
Which came as a surprise to Jack Kemp, the ardent supply-sider who was the conservative alternative to George H.W. Bush in 1988. "That's just so preposterous," said Kemp. "I don't agree with McCain on several things. He's gotten right on the economy. He's right on foreign policy. And he's right on the war on terror."
And no doubt a surprise also to Phil Gramm (lifetime ACU rating of 95), whose presidential campaign was endorsed by
National Review in 1996. And to Sam Brownback, a stalwart conservative and one of the most outspoken pro-life politicians in America today. And to Tom Coburn from Oklahoma, arguably the most conservative member of the Senate.
"John McCain and I have stood side by side on many issues," Coburn said in endorsing McCain last week. The most important, he added, are "fiscal responsibility" and the "sanctity of human life."
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/0 00/014/651mibdg.asp?pg=2 |
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Joe - no one here is arguing to pollute and destroy the environment just for the hell of it. Conservatives were the original environmentalists. They supported good stewardship of the environment, but not at the expense of the economy or quality of life. Conservatives also do not believe in expanding the size and control of government to preserve the environment.
I really fail to understand how McCain is for the "free market solution" as you say, when he just signed and touted his support for the massive energy bill that does nothing put create new regulations! New CAFE standards? Please, that is anything but "free market" That is the government telling private industry what products to make - pure and simple. A free market solution would be to allow the auto-companies to succeed and fail on their own based on the products that they decide to produce.
While on the environment, lets not forget that McCain opposes domestic oil drilling, despite the fact that we have great new technologies that allow us to do it in a clean a responsible way. He opposes it again in the name of environmentalism. This position does not help us become energy independent as he say he wants us to become. Renewable energy is not the solution - not yet anyways! Meanwhile, we sit idlely by and watch China drill for oil off our own coasts! |
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Like so many McCain critics, Limbaugh turned to former Senator Rick Santorum--"whose conservative credentials are beyond question"--as an expert witness. "I don't hardly agree with him on hardly any issues," Santorum said.
Really? Santorum's lifetime rating from the American Conservative Union is 88. John McCain's is 82.3. One would suppose there might be some overlap. The difference between a real conservative and a phony one apparently lies in those six points.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/0 00/014/651mibdg.asp |
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Is coming from the MIDWEST
Will be either Minnesota's Gov Tim Pawlenty or Sooner's JC Watts.
My prediction is there will be placards printed
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Based upon her record as a RINO she is most qualified. If not her, how about Lincoln Chafee, or Arlen Specter? |
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"I'm proud to have fought for and defended freedom for the people of Cuba, consistently calling for continuing the embargo until there are free elections, human right organizations and a free and independent media," he said. "Then and only then will the United States of America extend the aid and assistance because we don't want American tax dollars to go to a corrupt government headed either by Fidel or Raul Castro or anyone else who has denied freedom from the Cuban people."
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/01/com munist_fighter_mccain_i_und.html |
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I am for sane cost effective environmentalism. So is McCain. John McCain pointed out that a good way to deal with global warming is to build more nuclear power stations.
I also support free market environmentalism (which John McCain's advisor Jack Kemp also supports). If you have a problem with over fishing (for example and which is a more severe problem than global warming) sell fishing rights as a tradable commodity and the owners of those rights have a vested interest in not depleting the stocks and acting in a susstainable manner.
As for those florescent bulbs, I agree. They definitely should not go into landfills and if they are a benefit (in engergy savings) that has to be balanced against the cost of properly throwing them away. |
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I have not heard McCain speak about global warming as rational as you do. I have heard him put out the same rhetoric that Clinton, Obama, and Edwards recite. McCain has proven his willingness to impose government regulations in the name of global warming starting with the energy bill he just signed that will outlaw the incandescent light bulb is a few years. That is neither responsible or rational.
BTW, who decided that the florescent bulbs were better for the environment anyways? They do have mercury in them ya know. They go to the landfills, break, and the mercury goes straight into the ground and many times into our water supply. How does this help the environment??? |
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It will happen!!!
The RomBats have successfully pushed out everybody who is not pure enough.
Thanks RomBats!!!
However we will not do the same to you.
Come aboard the MACTRAIN!!!
It's leaving the station come Tuesday night.
Boomshak - will even let you be the one who yells chooo-choooo!!!!!!!!!
McCain to the terroist - We will never surrender, you will!
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Anne Coulter agrees with me. The entire "John McCain, War Hero" bit is a myth only accepted because it is repeated so often.
Unless of course, every POW from every war ever fought is a WAR HERO. As far as I can tell, THAT is the only thing that qualifies him.
The problem is that when EVERYONE IS A HERO, then NO ONE IS A WAR HERO.
Let me list some REAL WAR HEROES FOR YOU:
1. Sgt. Alvin C. York
2. Gen. Omar N. Bradley
3. Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower
4. George Washington
5. Lt. Audie L. Murphy
6. Eddie Richenbacher - Sgt, A.E.F.
7. John McCain??? (see, it doesn't fit, does it?)
THESE are war heroes. THESE men risked their lives to save thousands. THESE men made a difference in the wars they fought.
What DIFFERENCE did John McCain make in the Vietnam War? When did he risk his life to save his platoon above and beyond the call of duty? When did he single-handedly capture an entire regiment of the enemies soldiers? What grenade did he throw his body on? What pillbox did he run through withering machine-gun fire to take out just to save his buddies?
Outside of being unfortunate enough to be captured by the enemy in Vietnam, what did John McCain do in the Vietnam Conflict to distinguish himself?
Nothing. John McCain was a POW. He was NO HERO.
Think I'm full of it?
List for me 5 HEROIC THINGS John McCain did during the Vietnam War where he actually had a choice in the matter? Go ahead. I won't hold my breath. |
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...one way or another, this election is most likely to produce at best another Warren G. Harding. We can survive that,
McCain would be our next James Buchanan. |
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Stop the hysteria on both sides. The guy who has this dialed in is Michael Crichton. http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=16260 He admits that there is some manmade component to it, he also admits it is not catastrophic and we can deal with it rationally if we do not panic. Similarly, Bjørn Lomborg says the same thing. http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=11 0008626
It does not behoove the GOP to say global warming is a complete sham, because voters believe it. Voters will reject you if you say it is a lie, voters will embrace you if you admit that there is some global warming but we need not panic or spend trillions on it. And in fact, there is some real scientific data to support that man is contributing to it (although it is mostly a natural phenomenon). If you want Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama to make this policy, keep up the denial. |
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Your becoming a little histerical. Relax dude. Romney's/sliding is getting to you. There are voters of all stripes in the Republican party. The most important and powerful part is the Conservative base. But you will not win the nomination on the conservative base alone because Romney does not own the base. You think he should...but he doesn't....why doesn't he?...because he's too much of a Johnny come lately on Conservative issues (no pun intended)
John McCain supporters are relaxed, feeling good,
optimistic, ready to serve our new President.
The Rombats are pulling their hair out.
Why?
Because the perfect Conservative (yeah right)
Romney is going down!!
Go John MmcCain!!!! |
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The time has come for us to unite together and reject liberal idealism. We need to send a message to the RINOs in our party and tell them the following:
WE REJECT - The premise of man made global warming!
WE REJECT - The suppression of freedom of speech!
WE REJECT - Open borders and amnesty for the millions of illegal aliens that violated our laws ignored our sovereignty!
WE REJECT - Re-importation of drugs and price controls that regulate the fee market!
WE REJECT - Voting against lower taxes and using class warfare as the reason for doing so!
WE REJECT - Fighting pro-life groups in court because they are trying to get out the message of how precious life is!
WE REJECT - Stabbing our party in the back and leading a gang of traitors to prevent the appointment of conservative judges!
WE REJECT - A Republican that entertains the idea of running with John F. Kerry as the Democrat VP candidate!
Its time we rallied behind someone that stands for traditional conservative ideals: lower taxes, smaller government, pro-life, strong military and defense, secure borders, and family values!
Its time to unite behind Mitt Romney and send these RINOs packing straight out of the Republican party and into Liebermann's Independent-Democrat party. |
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So he is a traitor now? John McCain acted honorably and bravely in a Communist torture prison for five years, serving the United States of America, and putting the lives of his fellow American prisoners ahead of his own--you can disagree with McCain if you wish but you cannot call him a tratior.
Boomshak I suspect you have not sacrificed like that. And I know Hugh Hewitt did not either. |
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"As a true Christian Conservative Republican I will forgive you. You don't even have to say your sorry!!!!"
No TRUE CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN could support that TRAITOR JOHN MCCAIN!
Oh, and your BS about how "pro-choice" Republicans are "Liberal/Republicans". Dude, seriously, you MUST be kidding!
If you are a "pro-choice" Republican, but you are CONSERVATIVE on the ECONOMY and NATIONAL DEFENSE, you are then still a LIBERAL?
Geesh man, get a clue. To be a LIBERAL REPUBLICAN, you would have to be LIBERAL:
1. Socially
2. Fiscally
3. and on National Defense.
I hold that NO SUCH ANIMAL EXISTS. We call people like that DEMOCRATS.
The fact that you made this short-sighted argumnet is not surprising as you also support THE TRAITOR MCCAIN. |
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I didn't think it could happen, but I'm starting to hope John McCain might actually pull this off.
What I forgot was that a significant portion of conservative voters in Florida are of Cuban descent, and they're NOT going to vote for anyone who spews this anti-immigrant rant.
Wake up conservatives! Do you see what your anti-illegal stances have brought you? Even Karl Rove warned you about this. If you don't stop, you will be an afterthought!
If Rudy were to pull out after Florida, or even if his numbers go way down, then Romney gets crushed in the big, moderate states.
It just might happen... |
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We republicans are not all the same. We have pro-choice Republicans(15-20%) that when asked to give a description of themselves tell the pollster - Liberal Republican.
The Rombats like you seem only to be interested in winning the conservative wing of the party. Yes it's the most important wing, but if John McCain keeps getting a piece of it and you Rombats keep trashing the rest of the party, and when Rudy drops out, it's CHECKMATE!
Go John McCain!!!!!!!
Oh by the way Boomshak,
You challenge my honesty when I posted the Fox news exit polls giving McCain the victory in SC.
As a true Christian Conservative Republican I will forgive you. You don't even have to say your sorry!!!!
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McCain and Castro! Come on Hugh, this so called analysis is just blantant partisan mudraking. |
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Speedy Gonzalez are also affiliated with McCain.
Keep up your slander campaign Hugh. |
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"Giuliani does well only among liberal Republicans."
What???!!!
"LIBERAL REPUBLICANS"?
Does such a beast actually exist? Apparently in Zogby's Poll it does. How the HECK can someone be a LIBERAL REPUBLICAN?
Isn't that an oxymoron. I wonder if Romney leads amongst CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS? Lol.
Well folks, this tells us a lot about the Zogby sampoling method. His polling includes these mysterious LIBERAL REPUBLICANS.
I mean seriously, why the heck would a LIBERAL choose to be a REPUBLICAN????? |
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I have made my decision. If that flip-flopping RINO extraordinaire somehow gets the nomination in our party while NEVER carrying the CONSERVATIVE VOTE:
I will SIT OUT the November Elections, even iuf it means HILLARY WINNING.
I'd rather we elect a dedicated liberal than a TRAITOR to the Republican cause.
My Prediction? If the Republican Party is STUPID enough to nominate McCain, Hillary will win the WH in a LANDSLIDE VICTORY.
I DON'T CARE! I will NEVER vote for John (THE TRAITOR) McCain! |
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As a McCain supporter I do have to say two things about the Zogby poll. I don't trust it. Zogby has been way off. I also believe we might see a little tick up for McCain on Friday and weekend polls because of pure demographics. It's easier to reach the McCain voters -age, less proffessional ect. then it is to reach Romney supporters. Every weekend poll during this primary season seems to have McCain rising. I do believe however that the Martinez support helps McCain more then the Rombats here realize. If the Cuban support leaves Guliani and circles around McCain then Romney is toast
Go John McCain!!! |
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Zogby's final poll in Michigan had McCain winning by 1 point.
As you may recall, Romney won by 9 (a HUGE 10 point miss!). The fact that Zogby is doing this poll along with Reuters gives me even less confidence.
Add to that the fact that Zogby says "Romney wins handily amongst Conservatives", and yet McCain wins the state by 3???? Say huh?
So the majority of the Republican Party in FL is NOT CONSERVATIVE? Say huh again?
I think if you could look into Zogby's sample, he has overweighted the moderate/liberal vote. InsiderAdvantage, for instance, uses 20% DEMOCRATS in their sample even though Democrats can't vote!
I expect Zogby has done the same. |
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McCain will get most of his supporters. Guliani will also endorse McCain. Throughout Feb 5 - Feb 12 Huckabee will continue to take a little out of Romney's support. McCain is feeling good. Hugh is getting desperate. Romney's wallet will not be big enough to reverse NY-CA-IL-CT-MN-NJ. FLA may be Romney's last big night...although I still believe the Panhandle&Cuba-hispanic support will put McCain in the victory circle come Tuesday. |
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This is the made-up stuff that should drive everyone crazy. McCain was supporting tax breaks with the Reagan administration, back when Romney was left of a lot of Democrats, so this crap about raising taxes has no place in this discussion. And McCain wants socialized medicine? Give me a break. Last time I checked, he had a healthcare plan on the table that was as far from socialized medicine and a large bureacracy as any other candidate. He believes in working to make insurance afforable without the government getting more involved. Last time I checked, smaller government was a trademark of being conservative--maybe someone should ask Rudy and Mitt about the Cat Insurance they're pushing in Florida, and how that would just add more government spending and interference in our lives. Or is it possible they're just pandering for votes? |
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The author should dial up http://www.realclearpolitics.com and click on Florida. Assuming he wants to be accurate about the polls - that is. 7 polls have been taken between 1/20 and 1/25. 4 show McCain leading, one shows him tied with Romney, and two show Romney leading. More importantly, they appear to show both Guliani and Huckabee slipping. Of the two, Guliani should be the most worried. Huckabee will pick up Georgia, and perhaps a few other states. If he stays in the race and keeps polling 15% or so in enough states, then, given that the GOP assigns delegates on a proportional basis in many states, he could keep enough delegates to deny 51% to any other candidate. Guliani, however, doesn't have the Huckabee evangelical base, and would likely drop out after super Tuesday - given lack of money and no wins at all. The momentum does not appear to be in his direction at all. In the end, it increasingly appears that many Republicans don't want a Clinton GOP clone in the white house. A serial divorcee who openly cheated on his wives does not appear to be their cup of tea. |
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The Democrats are set to push for three things: socialized medicine, higher taxes (repeal of all the Bush tax cuts plus numerous additional tax increases) and global warming regulations. All three will be disastrous for the American economy -- and McCain is in bed with the Democrats on all three.
McCain as President will drastically weaken any Republican opposition to these three moves. If McCain is nominated, it will be far better to vote for Hillary because then the congressional Republicans will be free to fight these moves just as they fought and defeated HillaryCare when Bill Clinton was in office. |
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Showing McCain moving up.
McCain 31%
Romney 28%
Giuliani 15%
I think the Martinex endorsement helps quite a bit for McCain, so I would expect that to give him a surge in these last few days. Going right down to the wire. |
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is right in front of you if you can stand to take the blinders off, open your eyes,focus to shut out all the shrill nonsense being screamed, and use your God given minds to rationally examine the facts.
MITT ROMNEY is the man the nation needs to help right these seemingly unending and complex issues.
It seems this fact is slowly sinking in with many conservatives, but it has been an agonizingly slow process.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! WE CAN'T WAIT FOREVER! |
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http://mitt-tv.mittromney.com/?showid=729609 |
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Fabius Cunctator, you're joking when you say that Giuliani is the best candidate on immigration, right?!? He's every bit as open borders as Juan McCain and has put forth at every opportunity his plans to gut any attempt to deport, deny employment, and take away freebies for illegals. He simply offers up some unspecified plan to stop new illegals from entering the country while advocating amnesty for those that are already here.
Please specify what makes Giuliani's the best candidate on immigration. |
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John McCain's sole value in this election will be to Hillarity, who will be the next president if McCain wins the nomination. McCains biggest supporters are the disenguous drive-by media, who will turn on him the instant the other republicans are vanquished. They have managed to convince enough scared republicans that McCain is the only candidate who can win (hello Michael Medved). The opposite is true, and I don't care what any damn poll says. The conservatives will not support him, PERIOD. It just will not happen. Conservatives demonstrated in the last election cycle that they will sit out the election rather than vote for a bunch of arrogant fake republicans, of which McCain is the poster child. No drive by support combined with no conservative support equals President Clinton.
Also, I just yesterday learned about this Keating Five thing, and I was blown away.
http://www.wmsa.net/People/john_mccain/ariz-republic_chap_V _1999.htm
I never post links to sites, but if you don't know about the Keating five, especially if you are thinking about voting for Senator McCain, please,PLEASE check this story out.
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So a guy with a handle of laborlawyer (usually not a conservative lot) thinks that the endorsement of an open borders RINO makes it a good day for McCain? The associations, supporters, and edorsers of John McCain speak volumes about his politics and true allegiences. |
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John McCain's ability to still even be in this race is an obvious piece of evidence that the GOP(Gutted Our Principles)has lost it's way with the tolerance of CINO/RINO'S!......."Little Napoleon" is not even a good Republican, much less a conservative! It also shows that Americans have no time to research the historical voting records of ANY candidates, and take the lazy route of concluding their choice from talking points......300 million Americans, and this is the best that the GOP has to offer?......And the DEM's are worse off! |
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Is set to endorse the Mittster Sunday while decrying the Huckster.At least the AJC has the guts to endorse someone other than McCain and right in a state where the Huckster is doing so well.Apparently they don't think the guy that works on the factory floor is a good choice to lead the country out of a possible recession..How anyone can call Huck principled given that he took gifts in exchange for political appointments is beyond me. |
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...the Mel Martinez endorsement.
Not such a bad day after all- that is, unless elections are decided by far-right bloggers (meaning Malkin). |
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Florida House Speaker Marco Rubio:
“For those of us who consider ourselves to be Reagan conservatives, Mike Huckabee is our best chance to win…”
Florida Senate Majority Leader Daniel Webster:
“Governor Huckabee is a principled, conservative leader who has proven he has the leadership qualities to be the next president of the United States .”
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Republican State Senator Mike Haridopolos solidly for Huckabee:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz7LbzbWZ08 |
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Apparently dissatisfied with their presidential choices, Republicans are asking, "Why don't we have another Ronald Reagan?" But if we think seriously about what made Ronald Reagan a great leader and a great president, we may find that there's a reasonable facsimile hiding in plain sight.
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The Reagan coalition is still out there, a majority of Americans -- Republicans, Democrats, and Independents -- who believe that the size of government and its role in the economy should be reduced. Through the aggressive use of the veto pen, McCain has promised restore this essential element of Reagan's vision. Why should disaffected conservatives believe this? Because John McCain is like Ronald Reagan in the most significant respect of all: he is an authentic person, not a confection designed by consultants.
http://www.americanprowler.com/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12635
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...as is Anderson Cooper, apparently. Or intentionally so - anything to hurt Romney and prop up McCain. The MSM love McCain so...
NBC already said it was an audience member being picked up by an open mike - the candidates never heard it nor did anyone in the auditorium, only the television audience.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22848324/
Sorry to shatter your dreams for a Romney scandal...
To think this was Romney being fed answers is hilarious. Would it have been the Lilliputian in his pocket? |
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Many thanks to Michelle Malkin for this investigative journalism. If this doesn't confirm McCain is unfit to represent the Republican Party in 2008, I don't know what would.
This fellow (Hernandez) is a self serving jingoistic bomb thrower (euphemistic speaking, of course). His allegiance is first and foremost to Mexico. The sheer fact that McCain cannot see through this fellow makes it patently clear his judgement is suspect and unfit for being POTUS.
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Anderson Cooper on CNN just presented an interesting little clip he called, "The Whisper". It focused on Mitt Romney at the debate the other night.
Right after Romney was asked if he would make any Reagan-type pledge...and just BEFORE Mitt answers...you hear a voice whisper..."TAXES" or "No TAXES".
The speculation is that Romney may have been fed answers during the debate. Now this is only speculation and Cooper said some think it may have been an open mic...but the thought was indeed planted by CNN. Right now, just a conspiracy theory. |
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