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Monday, May 11, 2009
"Now is the time to give back our guns."
Posted by: Jillian Bandes at 11:16 AM
Rapper T.I. is heading to prison for a year after being caught with illegal weapons. Before he gets there, he has started a foundation dedicated to serving the needs of low-income youth, which includes an education component about the dangers of gun violence.
Now is the time to speak out against gun violence. Now is the time to take responsibility for our actions. Now is the time to make our communities safer. Now is the time to support good legislation... Now is the time to give back our guns. Now is the time for me to lead by example.
Though it sends the wrong message, the foundation certainly is an admirable attempt by T.I. to repent for his illegal behavior. It just represents the type of high profile cases that cultivate PR for anti-gun advocates which opponents of gun regulation simply don't have.


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Col Bat Guano writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 11:27 AM
T.I. vs. Plaxico
This is a more "admirable" attempt by a thug seeking redemption:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpgL5kuBpMA

Ronna writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 11:40 AM
What an ignorant buffoon!
HE CAN GIVE UP HIS BUT HAS NO RIGHT TO TELL ANYONE ELSE WHAT THEY SHOULD DO!

The Constitution gives me the right to own and bear arms, and the only way anyone will ever take
mine is...........

ONE HOLLOW CORE B U L L E T A T A T I M E!
Cuban Pete writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 11:44 AM
So, give them back...
...nobody's forcing gun ownership on anybody. There is only the individual RIGHT and FREEDOM to own guns. The danger is that when lefties glom on to a sentiment about "giving back", they really mean "coercively confiscate" or "ban under severe penalty" using the power of Big Government.
vladimir estragon writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 11:46 AM
Good for him
He's not addressing duck hunters in Minnesota, is he? He's talking to criminals and would-be criminals. So more power to him.

Notice that he's also not saying "we should pass laws to take people's guns away." He's saying, "Those of us who got guns for illegal purposes should give them back." Who can argue with that?
Cuban Pete writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 11:53 AM
So, Vlad,...
...I'm glad you agree with my point, for once. You obviously agree that the 2nd amendment explicitly guarantees the individual the right to own and bear arms. Big Government has no place banning or confiscating arms from righteous citizens. Thank you!
Retired Lady writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 11:56 AM
My goodness such courage
after the fact! So this clown got caught and now "discovers" the virtue of "gun control!"

Vlad try re-reading his statement. What do you think he REALLY means by the following: "Now is the time to support good legislation... Now is the time to give back our guns."
Big Sky Cowboy writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 12:01 PM
Great
I hope every thug gives up his guns, it will never happen, but thank God we don't have many thugs up here to worry about.
vladimir estragon writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 12:04 PM
So, Pete
I'm trying to start up a business selling rocket-propelled grenades launchers. I know a few people who are interested. Would you like to go in with me? You do agree that the government has no place banning arms, don't you?

If this gets off the ground, I'm going to start assembling suitcase nuclear bombs. They don't cost that much to make, and do you know what you can sell them for?
vladimir estragon writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 12:05 PM
Drooling crone
"Now is the time to support good legislation."

Don't you support good legislation? I do. I think all patriotic citizens should.
Big Sky Cowboy writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 12:12 PM
Weapon
of choice during hunting season, is the rocket propelled grenade launcher.
Ronna writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 12:13 PM
Frank, again you disappoint me
Can't you come up with something on your own instead of reverting back to the old arugment Rachel uses that I am someone called wonna? And as per ymost of your posts, you didn't address the original theme of my post. Yep, I really gave you more credit than you deserve.
And what subject was Homer replying to me on? They go by too quickly and since I'm not on here around the clock I find it hard to keep up with them all.
Trident Warrior writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 12:17 PM
Vladimir
Where can I place an order for a double barreled rocket launcher? I have a pesky squirrel, thats pretty elusive, and a single barrel is not enough.
Retired Lady writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 12:23 PM
Vladie try not to drool too much
on the keyboard! Ah yes, "good legislation!" Another drooling drone triumph in ambiguity! Such a feel for the legislative process! And after the "good legislation" has been passed all the guns will be collected because the community organizer cares so much! Yes, I now see that you and the community organizer really have a grasp on the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution!
vladimir estragon writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 12:29 PM
Drooling Crone
"Yes, I now see that you and the community organizer really have a grasp on the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution!"

So, ya wanna buy a shoulder-fired anti-aircraft rocket? The market's not real strong around here, but I think we could find some qualified customers in Arizona or New Mexico. Can you help out?
Cuban Pete writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 12:29 PM
Oh, poor, Vlad...
...always trying to sound so reasoned, but always failing so miserably. But as soon as your business goes public and issues stock, let me know. I'm in on it.

Also, let me know where to acquire the grenade launchers. As a personal choice, however, I must refuse the nukes - afraid I have no place to store such devices safely.
simian relic writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 1:13 PM
Shuck and Jive mofo.
The punk is just sorry he got caught. He would still be packing heat if he could. Send him to the big house.
debra writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 1:23 PM
t.i.
What is admirable about encouraging Americans to submit their God given rights to elected people who decide by fiat? Why isn't it immoral to tell a citizen (Rapper T.I.) he can not have 1.his private property and 2.a weapon to protect himself against criminals and a tyrannical government.

There is nothing admirable about Americans consenting to be slaves of a socialist Government looking to become God.
Jon writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 1:58 PM
vladimir estragon...
Weapons such as RPG, grenades, shoulder fired or shoulder launched missiles of any kind (antitank or antiaircraft), and especially suitcase nuclear demolitions are not arms...they are considered ordnance or destructive devices. Arms, as defined by USC 18, part I, Ch. 44 § 921 are any weapon which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; the frame or receiver of any such weapon; any firearm muffler or firearm silencer. In short the Second Amendment allows lawful citizens to possess and carry any handgun, rifle, or shotgun, and includes personal machineguns and fully automatic weapons.
vladimir estragon writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 2:18 PM
Who decides?
"Weapons such as RPG, grenades, shoulder fired or shoulder launched missiles of any kind (antitank or antiaircraft), and especially suitcase nuclear demolitions are not arms...they are considered ordnance or destructive devices. Arms, as defined by USC 18, part I, Ch. 44 § 921 are any weapon which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive."

Well, why doesn't that cover an RPG or a sholder-launched missile? And the Federal Code isn't the Second Amendment. USC 18, part I, Ch. 44, para 921 can be modified at any time by majority vote.
Homer writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 2:58 PM
Frank writes:
"I'm sure homer will appear soon and make his intentions, and claims known. Somthing about your "racial views" or something."

Frank, life is easier and much more pleasant when you take responsibility for your own actions and the false statements you make about others and post here at Th.

Better to be insistent than insistently dishonest.
Ronna writes: Monday, May, 11, 2009 5:11 PM
Homer
So, you weren't trying to get me to respond to your posts so you could call me a racist as Frank said?
Gabe writes: Wednesday, May, 13, 2009 12:50 PM
This IS Still America Isn't It?
Bold and insightful post; The authors clarity on the issue of web activism and truth it brings to bear on the prospects for the future give us all reason for hope. The question is: Are people ready to hear the good news yet? I for one AM!


Way to go, we' re all behind you, and were all in this together.
NMHunter writes: Wednesday, June, 24, 2009 8:12 PM
TI Message
"It just represents the type of high profile cases that cultivate PR for anti-gun advocates which opponents of gun regulation simply don't have."

Yes, I'm quite proud of the fact that our pro-civil rights groups do not have such an example. It seems odd that the author would feel that the pro-gun pro-civil rights organisations and folk are proud that we don't have a convicted felon as a hero!
George writes: Wednesday, July, 01, 2009 8:47 PM
Lefties found host for liberal message
He should have been legal. Then no problem...Now that he's been busted, he cut a deal to offer a liberal message that balances with the anti-gun groups including our savior BO and his cabinet full of anti-gun appointees. Look at what's coming at you folks.....it's gaining steam!
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