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You and the Country are in my prayers tonight. |
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Romney represents the future but should campaign on the 1980 platform? So that means he should commit himself to the removal of the Soviet Union, right? |
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So please Huckabee supporters, don't waste your vote. Save it for Gov Romney and save our country from the left. Thanks a lot for that! |
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What do John McCain and Billy Graham have in common?
They can both make millions of people jump up and shout, "JESUS CHRIST!" |
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I hope so...including other Huck supporters! |
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Do a TV add with a line of Americans of all colors and ages.
Ask Mr McCain.
I was born in America and I PAY my taxes. What Laws Mandated by our Constitution do I get to Break? What Private Proterty do I get to trespass onto?
If you leave town and come home to several people living in your home. Do you allow them to stay as long as they wish or do you have them removed from your home? Lead by example Mr. McCain and open your home to whom ever should wish to move into it with you.
Then show the oath McCain and others take to uphold the Constitution and it's Boarders.
Not only do you beat McCain in a Brokerd Convention. You win the General Election also. |
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For the first time I went to a "get out the vote" gathering for Mitt Romney here in California. During a three and one half hour session, of the persons I called, eighty of 120 voters going to the polls said they were voting for Romney; one said he was voting for Huckabee and eight were for McCain. Some were for Paul and the rest would not say for whom they were voting. I believe California is going to vote for Romney. |
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A vote for Romney is a vote for a higher taxes, liberal judges, weak foreign policy, and universal health care.
No thanks.
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Sometimes a candidate gets a little too much grief for misspeaking. The first time Mitt Romney said he was endorsed by the NRA in his gubernatorial run, he was wrong; the NRA rated him a “B,” which is not bad. (His Democratic opponent was an “A,” surprisingly. The NRA did not endorse in that race.) Apparently some NRA folk did some phone-banking for him, and Romney mistook that for an endorsement, and I guess I can see how that mistake could be made. The key is to note that he was told of his mistake back in December.
And then, in an interview a few days ago with Glenn Reynolds, the Instapundit, Romney claimed to be endorsed by the NRA again.
When it happens multiple times, one begins to wonder if Romney just wants to assert the endorsement and hopes that the person he’s speaking to doesn’t hear the correction.
Glenn comes across to me as a particularly fair-minded interviewer, but after Race42008 demonstrates a couple of different positions in a short span of time — telling Tim Russert he would sign the Assault Weapons Ban, telling Glenn and Helen that he would oppose it — Glenn concludes, “I’m beginning to question his sincerity.”
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It’s been hard for me to choose, but I’ve decided to vote for John McCain in tomorrow’s California primary.
I’d vote for either of the Republican candidates in November, and I have some reservations about both. Still, I think that McCain is likely to be very good on defense and on spending, and I think he’s eminently electable (not the only criterion, but a very important one). I’m also moved by the views of many lawyers and scholars I know and respect as serious conservatives — such as Ted Olson, Miguel Estrada, John McGinnis, and Stephen Calabresi — whose support suggests that McCain will do a very good job on judicial appointments. I’m also glad to be in the good company of my cobloggers Orin and Dale.
http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/punditry/comments/volokh_4 _mccain/
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Hope is the greatest of all gifts.
Romney brings optimism in troubled times.
Romney represents the future, not the past.
I feel something in the air . . .
Stope the invasion, and dare to believe. |
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Lots of people have theories about why John McCain is in very good shape for tomorrow. Some think it’s his personal characteristics. (The Pew poll offers some support for this theory with McCain’s favorable/unfavorable split at 72-18% among Republicans and Romney at 49-30%). Some think McCain has shown himself to be a real conservative. Others think being conservative or super-conservative is not enough to win elections, let alone Republican primaries. Some think the competition was weak. Still others find that Mitt Romney’s position changes (even on items in his own life story)are too much to bear, leaving them with no choice but to “question his sincerity.”
There are many reasons, but I would suggest an overriding one: the surge. Without McCain’s determination on the surge and its resulting success, the race would look quite different. In that effort, McCain did show his personal characteristics (tenacity and bravery, most clearly) and many Republicans, conservatives included, came to see him as a warrior in the toughest policy battle in recent memory. It was the means by which he distinguished himself from his competition and by which he could appeal to skeptics who came to see his past policy heresies in greater perspective. (Or it could just be that the competition was very, very weak.)
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I'm sure you've noticed but your post by far garner the most amount of commentary. Likewise, I'm sure you've noticed how emphatically the McCain group feels that they need to justify their support of their establishment embedded candidate. I loathe the arrogate attitude of McCain. That is precisely what is wrong with politics, and yet he has the support of those who claim they want a change from the status quo.
McCain is as capricious as a candidate can get as illustrated by his Gore and Kennedy tendencies, but the tune of closed mindedness and open borders is a campaign theme around which he and his supporters can consitently rally.
Good luck tomorrow Mitt, God knows our country needs it. |
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Romney has my vote.
We need California!!!!!!!!!!
Hugh is right. McCain would get trounced in any debate, especially against Obama. |
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Obviously Hugh has never been to a wake. The burial of Romney's campaign is tomorrow and all moderate Republican's will be toasting McCain. |
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The author neglected the most important thing to know about Romney:
He has no moral compass. He will say or spend anything to become president. He is on record, on video, stating "I wasn't part of that Reagan-Bush thing" now he arrogantly claims Reagan would endorse him. He was ardently anti-life (complete with a passionate tale about how a relative died from an illegal abortion and how his mother advocated abortion when it was politically unpopular to do so) until three months after he formed his presidential exploratory committee, at which point he suddenly saw the light. He was a lifelong hunter with NRA backing--which in Romney-speak turns out to mean he once shot a squirrel with a BB gun and the NRA endorsement was his imagination. He also claimed he 'saw' his father marching with Martin Luther King until confronted with the truth, at which time he proclaimed "According to the dictionary, the word saw can also mean to picture something in your mind." Americans sense his inherent phoniness; it's hard to miss.
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I've heard a lot of talk lately about how McCain is so tough and how that is such a quality for a leader in war.
Accompanied with this is the idea that, because Romney isn't openly tough back, he must somehow be weak and would not make a good leader in time or war.
But I would expect Republicans that know the classics (dating back to the Greeks and Romans) and/or the Bible to not fall for these two false notions.
McCain is hot-head and seems to have trouble controlling his temper - his passions, if you will. Yet we read from people that know, that he that controls his passions is mightier than he that controls a city or an army.
Likewise we read that meekness is not weakness.
Not intenting a comparison more than the specific point, but Hitler was well known to have a bad temper, and the British exploited that before large actions, by purposely making radio statements to get Hitler upset and hamper his judgment.
So, I view McCain's so-called toughness as really a revelation of his weakness; and Romney's temperment as a sign of true greatness.
At least that is what the Greeks and Soloman would say.
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have you to bring all of those things to our attention.
I find it amusing that you are so annoyed at Talk Radio, but frankly the MSM has given both Huck and McCain a free-ride, and really hammered Romney.
And I haven't seen even one blog out here that is discussing Romney that doesn't have rabid cut and pasters like yourself.
Your points are being made. |
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Go Mitt!!!
Go Mitt!!!
GO MITT!!! |
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We believe that the nomination of John McCain is the best option to preserve the ongoing restoration of constitutional government. He is by far the most electable Republican candidate remaining in the race, and based on his record is as likely to appoint judges committed to constitutionalism as Mitt Romney, a candidate for whom we also have great respect.
We make no apology for suggesting that electability must be a prime consideration. The expected value of any presidential candidate for the future of the American judiciary must be discounted by the probability that the candidate will not prevail in the election. For other kinds of issues, it may be argued that it is better to lose with the perfect candidate than to win with an imperfect one. The party lives to fight another day and can reverse the bad policies of an intervening presidency.
The judiciary is different. On Jan. 20, 2009, six of the nine Supreme Court justices will be over 70. Most of them could be replaced by the next president, particularly if he or she is re-elected. Given the prospect of accelerating gains in modern medical technology, some of the new justices may serve for half a century. Even if a more perfect candidate were somehow elected in 2012, he would not be able to undo the damage, especially to the Supreme Court.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120209536777639949.html?mod =opinion_main_commentaries |
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Lead by example and walk the walk.
Let all who wish to move into your home do so. When you run out of room in your home. Let them put up tents in your yard.
You are quick to give our home (America) away to Citizens of Mexico. It is ONLY fair that you lead by example with your own home instead of living behind gates with security or hiding in Washinton D.C.
You expect our Blue Collar workers to compete with Citizens from Mexico for less money? How about if you earn less money? Take the pay cut Senator.
Walk the walk with amnesty. |
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Some in the conservative media are beginning to realize they got behind the wrong horse in their zeal to find someone to stop John McCain. They've done everything they can to shove Mitt down America's throat. But guess what? America isn't swallowing the lies they are being fed. That's why, despite outspending all his Republican opponents combined, Romney is poised to....drop out. The only true conservative in the race is Mike Huckabee, a man of character and integrity who performed magnificently as Governor for 10 1/2 years. In fact, he was chosen as one of the top five governors in the country by a leading news magazine and was selected, by his fellow governors, to head the National Governors Association. Despite being outspent 50 to 1, misrepresented and caricatured by the mainstream media and ruthlessly attacked by conservative talk show hosts, he is holding his own--running just two percentage points behind Romney in national polls. If he had half the money and resources of Romney, he would have wrapped up the Republican nomination by now. His only crime is being Baptist, which is apparently the unpardonable sin according to the Republican establishment and media elite.
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Was at the rally at Ga Tech this morning. Packed auditorium - probably 500 people -- lots of energy. Herman Cain was brilliant on the intro. Go Romney! |
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the best thing we can hope for is only suffering through amnesty, but the worst is that we get clobbered in the general election.
McCain is Dole II, he doesn't understand the economy, represents the past, is wrong on important issues, and won't look good in a change election. Independents don't like the war, so they aren't going to vote for a hawk. The GOP is slipping to the sidelines, and we might be there for awhile. |
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McCain can take a paycut. He followed the Kerry theme and married his meal ticket who then bought him a seat. People complain that Romney uses his wealth, at least it was his own and not his wife's. |
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Do you have any understanding of what Amnesty is? How about Citizens of Mexico flooding the USA called Illegal Aliens?
McCain wants Americans to compete with Illegal Aliens for American Jobs and you want to vote for him?
That is very un-American. |
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Another thing I hear about McCain is how he was so courageous and such a hero. That is certainly true.
But, again, if you know the stories of the Bible (and again, not to make a close comparison beyond the specific point I'm making): as the story of David shows us, it is possible for someone to be courageous and a hero when they are young, and later fall victim to their own passions.
Again, not to compare McCain to David, except to point out that former courage and heroism is not necessarily and unalterably life-long, nor does it make one immune from other, future flaws in judgment.
At least you should know that if you believe the Bible.
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Huckabee is a cheat and a liar. You know it and so does everybody else. Don't become a liar for him. |
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What we are watching now is the perfect storm. With the refusal of Huckabee to admit defeat, the possibility of the split of the conservative vote looms over the heads of the voters. McCain, who has voted against an amendment to the Constitution defining marriage as being between a man and a woman...who has coauthored a bill that limits free speech during an election...so far has never captured the majority vote of the conservative base in any of the states that have held a primary or caucus. If the Huckabee voters really hang onto the the false hope that voters will miraculous come around and turn the tide for him despite his one state win and his following in four other states at less than 20%, the Republican party is left with the possible nomination of a candidate that clearly less than half of the conservative base is willing to back.
It waits to be seen if the Huckabee supporters are willing to swallow their pride in spite of the fact that their candidate cannot and vote for the sake of their convictions for the only other conservative candidate on the ballot that has a chance of defeating McCain. The question is do the Huckabee voters want to be right...or do they want to see a conservative in the White House. Many Republicans are asking the question, is this another Ross Perot nightmare or is this the last dying throes of the conservative movement.
.........Nevada….SC..Iowa..FL…..NH…..Mich….Maine
Huckabee….8%……. 30%….34%…….14%…….11%…..16%.. 6%
Romney…..51%…… .15%….25%…….31%…….32%…..39%...52%
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This is right. Those who elect McCain will deserve the amnesty he has promised to give. |
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Hugh -- I just posted this on your previous blog and I think it's appropriate to repeat my message here ...
Hugh Hewitt is sounding more like Art Bell, the paranormal broadcaster, than a reasonable, intelligent, conservative talk show personality. Hugh’s desperate, last hour; attempt to bolster Romney before Super Tuesday has been pathetic. It’s as if Hugh thinks his audience is mostly moronic, zombies who will follow his transparent arguments, and blindly vote for Romney, because he and his cronies (Culter, Ingram, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc,) say we should.
I for one am beholden to no one, and I do read all the papers, review the votes, and listen to the various media outlets, and I’m extremely comfortable voting for McCain. Romney has not earned my consideration—his pandering, flip-flopping, change mongering (Johnny come Obama), lack of integrity, and no-straight talk in excess, presents no real alternative.
Why is it that whether in the corporate or the political arenas, employers and people often choose the unknown rather than the known? You can go onto http://www.vote-smart.org and look at McCain’s voting record, you can research how special interests groups rate McCain, however, you can’t get the same information on Romney. By the way, compare Hillary’s special interests ratings against McCain, overwhelmingly she is clearly the liberal, and McCain is moderate more toward a conservative leaning.
I know McCain, I know what I can expect; Romney is a complete crap shoot. Let us not forget the 1976 election year. I was shocked when Carter won over Ford. Everyone wanted change at that time, I would have preferred and voted for the known entity, Gerald Ford. Are we doomed to repeat the mantra of the 1976 election, vote for change for change sake, and vote for the unknown—hoping somehow it will be positive despite no logic, no real reasoning, behind the change?
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Talking Points Memo
1. A vote for Huck is a vote for McCain!
2. The MSM hates Romney because they know he can win
3. Romney has business experience, so he's an expert in the economy
4. McCain can't win because he will look too old debating Obama
5. McCain isn't a real war hero, vote Mitt!
I don't know about the rest of you, but these arguments sure have me convinced -- LOL
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I hope he's paying you a ton to offset the loss of listeners your show will encounter for your constant shilling of the Mitt-flop. |
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are voting for a great War Hero, who is a Lousy Senator, that would make an even worse President.
Hell NO, McCain has got to go!
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Joe:"McCain will save the Supreme Court"
Yeah, right. McCain joined the gang of 14 to deny an up or down vote on judges that Bush nominated. A gang ran our Senate...held them hostage. The compromise was they picked 2 of the judges and said that was the only ones that could be appointed. They threw the rest 'under the bus' without even a word. That would be what ten judges...? that were denied their legal right for at least an up or down vote? This is not a fair compromise...this is a cave to the Democrats. He couldn't even figure out how to half of the judges nominated.
And these judges included minorities...Hispanic and Black judges...course they were quietly dismissed. |
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I went to a phone bank "get out the vote" session tonight. The calls were being made registered Republican voters in the 909 area code in California (Riverside/San Bernardino County).
Of the people who answered the phone (about 70%), by far the overwhelming majority of people that would state who they were going to vote for said they were voting for Romney. Like over 75%.
A week and a half ago I made calls and of those that answered and said who they were planning ono voting for, only about 1 in 5 or so said they were planning on voting for Romney.
Looking good for Mitt in California!!!
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Your points are completely hypocritical. Nobody knows what to expect from McCain. The people of Arizona certainly don't. Who knew McCain would become a poster boy for amnesty and global warming two years ago? I digress, the one certain thing about McCain is that he does believe the best ideas are coming from the left. Look at his recent votig record, unless that is too telling.
So what do you get with Romney? An expert on the economy, a personally commited bastion of moral integrity, and one who has actually dealt with foreign powers such as China and India on more than a hypothetical basis. Most importantly a man who can deal with facts without taking them personally.
McCain -Closed Mindedness and Open Borders. The flip flopper or the apathetic liar. Take your pick. |
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McCain has been on both sides, and is now on the wrong side of immigration, taxes, free speech and global warming. Are those your positions?
If we nominate McCain, you are right, it will be 1976 all over. Who do we have ready to go in 2012? |
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I think Romney can win AZ. There has been huge momentum here going his way in the past week. Many people are fed up with McCain, particularly with his stance on immigration.
Also Deleware saw a big swing Romney's direction n the latest polls, if that momentum has continued over the last 36 hours it might be enough to get him within the margin of error. He already took all 18 of Maine's delegates, so getting another north east winner take all could be huge. |
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You know McCain?
Why won't he invite Illegal Aliens to live in his own home? On his own property? He is more then happy to invite them to live in our home with out our permisssion.
McCain only wants cheap labor for those who have given him money over all of these years.
McCain wants cheap Blue Color Labor and if Americans will not work on the cheap. Then McCain will give amnesty to Mexican Citizens to work for his pals on the cheap.
You call that a American leader worth voting for? I say throw any one out of Washinton who Black Mails my fellow Americans to work for sub standard wages in America with Illegal Alien Labor.. |
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Huckabee was a mountain of a man, until he lost all that weight. Now his physique matches his character; small. |
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John McCain’s ignorance on the economy, amplified when he questioned Tim Russert’s exact quote of McCains own words, will forfeit the Republican’s natural advantage against Democrats in a general election.
Romney knows more about how the economy really works than probably any presidential candidate in the history of the US (if I’m wrong, I’d love to hear who I’ve missed). We need a person who has competed in the real world of market competition—who had to create real value to survive. John McCain’s lived in the Washington bubble for 30 years…rather than creating real value, he just has to take out further deficit against future generations when funds get low. His class warfare rhetoric, “Romney worked for profit not patriotism,” makes one wonder if he is even personally convinced by the basic principles of conservative economics. McCain’s rhetoric undercuts years of effort by Republicans to explain the virtues of Capitalism. We can see where class warfare approach has gotten France.
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The Hewitt blogs are by far the most entertaining to engage. |
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that Jack Kemp endorsed McCain? Phil Gramm? |
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You make a great point about France. The new President, Nick Sarkozy, has attacked the European failed model and emphasized the importance of mirroring the American model. Why are people moving to support candidates who want to take us further into the realm of proven failed economics? |
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John McCain promised us more wars, amnesty, and he tried to change Senate rules so that 60 votes were needed to lower taxes in 2005. He personally blocked Bush's best Judges with the gang of 14.
McCain said both Kerry and Hillary would "make a great President". Do you want someone leading the ticket who thinks Hillary would make a great President?
Get Real and get your head out of the dirt.
Rush said it is better to have the Dems win than to have McCain win and screw up the country so that Reps get blamed for it. He and Coulter are starting to make some sense. I tend to forget just how really liberally dangerous McCain is.
Win or lose for the sake of the party, Romney has to take his campaign all of the way to the convention. Just like Reagan against Ford.
Romney and Huck should get a lot more than 400 delegates between the two of them. Even if McCain does get 600 delegates tomorrow he will still be 600 short.
There are about a 1000 delegates to go after Super T.
McCain can be stopped.
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Yes. Isn't it sad to see these men reduced to begging for scraps at the liberal table of McCain? |
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Jack Kemp and Phil Gramm endorsed McCain? Ya and they also gave us Bob Dole because it was his turn.
Those are the same powers that be whom gave us Bush over real Conservatives.
The is the Republican party we are fighting for and not some Union in Chicago who works by senority.
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Yes they are.
Hey, what's your position on bridges to nowhere? How about foot-soldiering for Reagan? |
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Do a TV add with a line of Americans of all colors and ages.
Ask Mr McCain.
I was born in America and I PAY my taxes. What Laws Mandated by our Constitution do I get to Break? What Private Proterty do I get to trespass onto?
If you leave town and come home to several people living in your home. Do you allow them to stay as long as they wish or do you have them removed from your home? Lead by example Mr. McCain and open your home to whom ever should wish to move into it with you.
Then show the oath McCain and others take to uphold the Constitution and it's Boarders.
Not only do you beat McCain in a Brokerd Convention. You win the General Election also.
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is pitching Viagra. What will McCain be doing in two years? Any guesses?
Romney will be helping to build more corporations like Staples, you know, entities that create jobs and wealth for our Country. Of course, leading for patriotism is better than doing it for profit. |
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Go Mitt, go...
we are with you.
And please call your family and friends. Talk to your neighbors. Encourage them to vote tomorrow. Drive them to the polling stations.
Take 15 minutes from your busy schedule and do it, for our country, for our party and for our conservative movement.
May God bless Governor Mitt Romney, the next president of the United States of America! |
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Does anyone here thank it is a good idea to release a private letter for political gain as team McCain did. Is that good character?
http://corner.nationalreview.com/
"Expanding the Wrong Way" is the caption heading, but of course I heard it for myself on the Mark Levine show in a discussion between Rush and Mark.
http://marklevinshow.com/
What more is there to say? |
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If we had one more week at the current momentum what vicious lies John McCain would invent to distort Romney. Maybe none. He might only adopt a few more liberal positions to appeal to whoever the heck is voting for him now. |
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the numbers betray Romney supposed economic genius. MA posted below-average economic growth during Romney's tenure.
Business acumen and Economics are two very different things. Something most Romney supporters fail to realize. |
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Voters may well deliver a couple of real added victories for Romney on 2/5 and well beyond. California should bring a treasure trove of delegates for Romney, as well several other states on Tuesday. Some of the brightest results for Romney will probably come on state to state primaries in succession following 2/5. A lot of people throughout America are quickly coming his direction and gladly joining the Romney Ranks. |
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"the sort of energy that can be faked but only flows from conviction that the political wind is at your back"
There's a big wind behind you Hugh, but it's not blowing in the direction you think it is. |
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It is amazing for me to see how intelligent people like Hewitt believe that Romney is more "conservative" than McCain. I think Romney is, at heart, a George Romney Republican, more Rockefeller-esque than Reagan-esque. All of his past positions that sounded moderate were truly heartfelt (I approve of them) and speak well of him.
Why do I believe this? Because Romney was consistent on these principles for a lengthy period in his public life, during a time when his father, who he revered, was also alive and active in backing his political career.
In the past 12 months, he has done such a radical flip-flop that it has to be obvious to anyone but the meanest intelligence that this was election-driven, and is by no means a genuine conversion.
As a social liberal and a fiscal conservative (I like balanced budgets), I like Romney for the guy he was until he started this campaign. But the Romney running now reminds me most of the guy who attacked Reaganomics as "Voodoo economics" and then joined Reagan as his Veep - yes, none other than George Herbert Walker Bush, the last Rockefeller Republican who managed to convince the GOP that he was really the Second Coming of Reagan.
As a moderate who has despaired of the GOP rank-and-file ever electing one of my ilk to the leadership, I guess I should be happy that you guys are so gullible. But I am surprised nonetheless. |
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When was it again that Romney saw his dad march with MLK? |
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Not all earmarks are inappropriate, after all, legislators are sent to Washington to get things done for their districts. Obviously that particular piece of pork was an embarassment as it came from a so-called republican. The man should have his party card stripped. Regan was the savior of the nation after a disasterous Jimmy Carter. How he turned the country around was his amazing message of the revival of the American Dream. Does anyone actually get this feeling from McCain? Admittedly Romney is no Reagan, but I feel comfortable knowing that a man of his prowess can restore opportunity for me and my family. That is all I ask for; opportunity. Maybe that is where I differ from those who like McCain, the promise of big brother making everything all better is tempting for the lazy and arrogate. |
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don't let context or facts get in your way. Romney inherited a mess, much like GW did. Mass faced a 3 Billion dollar budget shortfall and jobs were leaving the State because of an unfriendly corporate environment. Romney balanced the budget and got jobs coming back to the state, yes not at national average.
I think its comical that you tried to look at it so simply. A wise person would judge a man by what he does with what he is given, not by simply looking at outcomes in a vacum. Bill Clinton was fortunate to watch one of the greatest booms in our life time, was it because of what he did, or other private market factors? Try to think next time, mkay? |
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I agree. I was just poking fun at McCain's cliches and lack of substance. Pork isn't what is killing our economy or debt load, its the huge entitlements. McCain doesn't seem to understand that, which further underscores why he is unfit to lead this country. |
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Please in your infinite wisdom explain the difference between economics and business acumen and how they are mutually exclusive. Next time take your talking points from a more intelligent source. |
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It is amazing for me to see how intelligent people like Hewitt believe that Romney is more "conservative" than McCain. I think Romney is, at heart, a George Romney Republican, more Rockefeller-esque than Reagan-esque. All of his past positions that sounded moderate were truly heartfelt (I approve of them) and speak well of him.
Why do I believe this? Because Romney was consistent on these principles for a lengthy period in his public life, during a time when his father, who he revered, was also alive and active in backing his political career.
In the past 12 months, he has done such a radical flip-flop that it has to be obvious to anyone but the meanest intelligence that this was election-driven, and is by no means a genuine conversion.
As a social liberal and a fiscal conservative (I like balanced budgets), I like Romney for the guy he was until he started this campaign. But the Romney running now reminds me most of the guy who attacked Reaganomics as "Voodoo economics" and then joined Reagan as his Veep - yes, none other than George Herbert Walker Bush, the last Rockefeller Republican who managed to convince the GOP that he was really the Second Coming of Reagan.
As a moderate who has despaired of the GOP rank-and-file ever electing one of my ilk to the leadership, I guess I should be happy that you guys are so gullible. But I am surprised nonetheless. |
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Can't wait till Mitt gets his hands on the reins of the US Economy! Well, maybe we should first see what real economists say about Romney's purported economic credentials:
"But Northeastern University economist Andrew Sum, who has researched Romney's record, said the state lagged the U.S. average during that period in job creation, economic growth and wage increases.
As a strict labor market economist looking at the record, Massachusetts did very poorly during the Romney years, he said. "On every measure you've got, the state was a substantial under-performer." |
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"Vote for a conservative."
First you have to find one.
If you believe Romney is a conservative, or I should say a practicing conservative then best of luck to you trying to convince anyone to vote for Mitt.
Mitt barely makes it as moderate by definition.
His record as Governor and past statements made in his senate bid, sure do make it tough to qualify as anything but a moderate with social liberal leanings. |
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We were there! What a successful rally! Romney will win in Caifornia!
Go Mitt Romney!!!! |
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to the Mass. economy was that the pre-Romney direction was that of an economic crisis on "every measure". The fact that the state performed just under the national average was nothing short of brilliant when you consider the existing forces working against it. I know taking all facts into consideration is a monumental undertaking, but Mr. Sum left out crucial parts to his econometric study. Convenient. Read his report and it naively assumes Mass. in a situation comparable to prosperous states as opposed to a more appropriate comparison to states in sever economic decline. Wow, that is lengthy to tell the truth. No wonder McCain, Huck, and their supporters go out of their way to avoid it. |
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Hotrod,
I’m flattered that my comments have inspired you to single me out. I suppose you know Romney better than me? Mr. “the NRA has endorsed me.” Mr. Romney who claimed he is a long time hunter, and when researched, no one could find a hunting license? And, Mr. Romney, with egg on his face, further protracts the story by explaining that he hunts small game such as squirrels, which does not require a license, how convenient. I don’t know about you, but as absurd and as immature as this line of commentary might be, this is Mitt Romney. He didn’t have the NRA endorsement; he didn’t have a hunting license of record. If a man can, pathetically, tell mistruths about something this ill conceived, and irrelevant to poster his position, he has no business being the Commander and Chief of the Military. Hotrod, at the end of the day, as much as you might think McCain can’t beat Obama or Hillary, I believe Clinton and Obama can make mince meat out of Romney and “Romp Romney” in November. There are plenty more of examples of his explanations, flip-flops and ineptitudes. All you need to remember is one infamous flip flop statement that John Kerry made, “I actually did vote for the 87 billion dollars, before I voted against it…”
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Implicit in RJ's criticisms of Romney is the liberal idea that govt is what makes the economy go. If the MA economy didn't have an immediate upswing while Romney was Gov. than he wasn't doing a good job.
RJ, conservatives don't accept the premise that the govt is responsible for the economy. Conservatives (and Romney) understand that it is individuals and businesses competing in a market that makes the economy.
Romney understands that the govt's role is to lower taxes (on individuals and corporations) and try to lessen regulation and then let the American people go to work.
Notice Romney's long-term stimulus plan calls for long-term lower taxes.
Did Romney balance the budget in MA? YES.
Did Romney leave a surplus? YES.
This is all conservatives want from their govt.
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I just read your last post. Of the many logical fallacies you made all you need to remember is this one adjective about the entirety of your postings; asinine. |
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Things that Romney has supported:
Abortion:
"I will preserve and protect a woman's right to choose…"
Boston Herald Debate, 10/29/02
Illegal immigration:
"…let's have them registered, … should begin a process towards application for citizenship."Lowell Sun, 3/30/06
Gun control:
"We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them. I won't chip away at them; I believe they protect us and provide for our safety."Romney in 2002 gov. debate, Boston Globe, 1/14/07
Gay marriage:
Opposed an amendment to ban gay marriage.
Romney spokesman, Boston Globe, 3/22/02
supported the right of gays to adopt children:
Governor Mitt Romney and a legislative leader yesterday delivered unwelcome news to the Catholic bishops of Massachusetts, who plan to seek permission from the state to exclude gay and lesbian parents from adopting children through its social service agencies. The governor said he was not authorized to give such an exemption...Boston Globe, 2/17/06
This means that he is tacitly encouraging gay couples to adopt children.
I am beginning to think that this man is deceiving the American people much in the manner that the Clinton's are doing.
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Now Brett, you cannot expect that those who do not have the capacity to conjure an independent thought would understand that about the economy. The MSM does not tell that part of the story so how will the bots' copy paste postings reflect simple facts? |
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This is still very much a three man race.
http://www.huckabeetruth.com/ |
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Pro-V1:"Mitt barely makes it as moderate by definition.
His record as Governor and past statements made in his senate bid, sure do make it tough to qualify as anything but a moderate with social liberal leanings"
Romney might have leaned liberal...but he didn't vote liberal.Massachusetts is controlled by an 85% Liberal/Socialist/Democrat Legislature and the ONLY way anyone can get elected on a state level is to run as a Demcrat! That is the absolute truth. Just the fact that Mitt Romney WON there was a miracle. He vetoed over 150 Democrat bills only to have them overriden so he was powerless in many ways. Still, he was able to accomplish turning a deficit of $3 Billion into a large surpluss before leaving office. He voted every time prolife. |
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MA faced a 3 Billion dollar budget shortfall not because of "an unfriendly corporate environment" but because of the dot com bust. In fact, a big part of Mitt Romney's solution was to *increase* taxes on corporations by "closing loopholes."
Truth is, the portion of the deficit he inherited was less than half what you report (1.2 Billion), and Mitt Romney's solution was to raise taxes (although he did some minor spending cuts). |
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Wake up America! 50+% are demanding that the Government (we the people) give them what they want. Just look at who's running and what they're saying. Stop calling Mitt the flip-flopper. McCain's the flip-flopper: McCain/Feingold, Liberman, Kennedy, etc. but says he's conservative now. It wasn't that long ago when the majority of Americans said "throw the bums out!" It's time a non politician was Pres! |
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ebrasil:"If we had one more week at the current momentum what vicious lies John McCain would invent to distort Romney."
I live in California. Today I got a call from the McCain squad saying that Romney fostered a bill for abortion on demand in Massachusetts...of course, this is a lie. Romney voted pro-life everytime. He couldn't get much accomplished with 85% liberals in his state congress. But this is exactly what McCain did in Florida the day before that election...spread lies that Romney could not counter because of the McCain/Feingold ban on free speech ads so close to an election...He has thought of everything....the lowest of campaign tricks. |
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Dear ebrasil,
I usually don’t get under people’s skins as I’ve this morning. Asinine? I was merely relaying a Mitt Romney story. Since that story peeked your interest here is another. During a Republican debate, Fred Thompson, former U.S. Senator and Republican Candidate, was making a comment, when Romney interrupted Thompson. Thompson said, “You’re getting to be a pretty good actor.” And Romney replied, “Takes one to know one.”
I immediately envisioned Mitt Romney on the stage with foreign diplomats—it wasn’t a good outlook. Romney is interviewing for the job of the President of the United States, and he engages his peer and competitor, in front of the American public with “Takes One to Know One?” I can’t remember a working situation or a social situation, where a peer used third-grade tactics. If you didn’t watch as I had, listen for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bksBYmqrpng&feature=related
My best to you and your efforts to showcase Romney as a viable candidate.
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It is Romney supporters like Lmiller and ebrasil with the mistaken notion that Mitt will guide the economy to greatness. I made no such "implicit idea" -- I claimed his business credentials don't make him an economist.
"Romney understands that the govt's role is to lower taxes (on individuals and corporations) and try to lessen regulation and then let the American people go to work."
No Brett, Romney doesn't understand that. How did he balance the budget in MA?
Mitt:
** Raised taxes on corporations by "closing loopholes"
** Raised property taxes on individuals
** Demanded more fees from people seeking marriage
** Demanded more fees from people who own guns
** Demanded more fees from drivers
** Increased tax on gasoline
Thanks for playing Brett, now go do your homework.
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Memo to Hickabee supporters: Nice clue not even attempting to uphold the facade that Mike is still in the race to win and not just to spoil for Romney. When you spend all of your time attacking Mitt and ignore McDouche, who is crushing everyone in the polls and poses by far the greater threat to your guy, you kind of let the cat out of the bag. It's all good though, intellectual honesty has never been the Huckabee campaign's strong suit when addressing his barely controlled hatred of Mitt Romney. Complain about Mitt's money and his ads all you want like the bitter class warfare liberal that you are, but the fact that you were giving anti-Mormon sermons before Romney even got into politics doesn't leave a lot to the imagination about your true reasons for attacking Romney and staying in the race when tinfoil hat wearing Ron Paul is garnering more support than you are in most places.
On another note, enough with the Romney flip-flopping comments, you guys sound like the MSM already. Riddle me this, why is Romney a flip-flopper, but Huckabee and Mccain aren't when both have dramatically changed their positions on immigration in the past 6 months? Let me guess, their change of heart wasn't for political expediency? And how is John Mccain not a flip-flopper on tax-cuts?
Most important question of the evening: Why does John McCain get to claim the mantle of "best terror warrior" when he wants to close Guantanamo and is against coersive interrogation? So he suggested the surge--big deal. Suggesting a change in the rules of engagement to make them slightly less constraining than the Berkeley speech codes would have been a move that took the real courage. Seems to me that he is the weakest, not the strongest on the war.
Why are the MSM and RINOs everywhere endorsing him? Simple: If he is the nominee then no matter what happens, there will be a liberal elected in November. |
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Man, I just had this exhilarating feeling. Mitters! We can do this! Talk to everyone you know and get the vote out!
This man isn't perfect, but he is a good man, and he has the ability to lead this country to a brighter future
MITT HAS MY CALIFORNIA VOTE!!! |
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As Long Beach goes, so goes the nation?
Pathetic. Especially this: "The Romney team is wired, the sort of energy that can be faked but only flows from conviction that the political wind is at your back."
This sounds an awful lot like the last days of Terri Schiavo. The supporters of the Schindler family also thought she was on the brink of a miracle and could wake up any minute, despite all the evidence that that was impossible. Exactly the same fever.
The Terri-fiasco was one of the causes that made me reconsider my support for the GOP.
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So you're saying that McCain using Senator Dole is cool. McCain hiding behind Huckabee is cool. McCain lying about the Bush Tax cuts is cool. Lying about McCain Kennedy is cool. Restricting political speech is cool. Lying about what his opponent said is cool. So say anything and use anybody McCain is cool with you. That's not a Republican party I recognize.
But to get back to the point: revealing former Senate Majority Leader's private letter to Rush Limbaugh is a scurrilous thing to do to a fellow vet, hero, and Presidential candidate. |
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Don't give yourself so much credit as to getting under my skin. I was merely commenting on the merit of your postings. The fact that they are filled with three or four blatant logical fallacies I thought was a point to which you might be interested. By recognizing your errors you may one day become a poster with the merit to "get under my skin". John McCain gets under my skin because he is a liar. You are not, just prone to be persuaded by pathos more than logos. Good luck with the English language. |
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I'm merely pointing out the absurdity of you complaining about McCain throwing mud when you and your pal Romney are knee deep in the stuff. |
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It is true, you are wrong, unless of course you consider facts and data, then you are right. But who has time to bother with those things. Rj's problem is that in his quest to sound like he is up to speed on the issues he takes his talking points from pooly researched sources. Also, he has still never addressed my challenge to separate a brillant business acumen in the area of venture capitalism with a masterful grasp of economics. This is typical of a McCain supporters. If you ignore the facts long enough, perhaps they will stop bothering you. |
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There has been almost nothing mentioned of the 85 delegates up for grabs in WV, AK, and ND that have gone virtually untracked, and WV's 30 are WTA! If Romney can do well there that would more than offset NJ. CA will offset NY. Then there's the 4 states where he will win big, UT, MA, CO, MT. GA, and TN will be 3 way splits and I really like the momentum Romney showed in the latest and only recent DE poll (another WTA or 18). |
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"Why does John McCain get to claim the mantle of "best terror warrior" when he wants to close Guantanamo and is against coersive interrogation?"
Because Guantanamo and ‘coersive interrogation’ aka Torture are not the what America should stand for. That in itself should be reason enough.
But there is more. Guantanamo and Torture does not result in less terrorism, it results in more terrorism. It creates and motivates enemies and it alienates us from our alies who have become hesitant to show us their support. |
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Dear ebrail,
I can see you are someone who desires the last word—go for it. For me, I will reserve further comment until tomorrow’s overwhelming victory. |
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that sleazy president in '24'. |
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Ebrasil, if you care to play with the big boys, I'd be happy to check out any sources that challenge the facts I've laid out. Transcripts from the Michael Savage show don't count. |
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voting Romney 2 to 1 against McCain... read it and weep. |
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Start by actually reading some of the reports you are citing. There are an abberant number of outlier factors in the now infamous economics report you are sourcing. This may take a while as you will be required to understand basic economic principles. Now your first impulse will be dismissive. Fight it RJ, I know somewhere in you something has to want to look past the MSM talking points. |
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"Romney might have leaned liberal... but he didn't vote liberal"
Well if placing a Planned Parenthood member on Mitt's mandatory socialized health plan's board is only left leaning... Yes, that's not a vote.
If appointing judges that were members of the gay/lesbian bar association is only left leaning...Yes, that's not a vote.
Now where would someone like myself ever get the idea that Mitt would'nt come down on the side of pro-life as Mitt said he always did. Of course the Romney's did make out a check to Planned Parenthood earlier. I'm sure that money was used for a noble pro-life cause.
Twist Mitt like a pretzel and he'll come out on the right side of conservatism.
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Romney was endorsed by the NRA...
Oh crap! That was a lie, too!
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Illegal aliens murder
12 Americans daily
By Joseph Farah
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com
WASHINGTON – While the military "quagmire" in Iraq was said to tip the scales of power in the U.S. midterm elections, most Americans have no idea more of their fellow citizens – men, women and children – were murdered this year by illegal aliens than the combined death toll of U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan since those military campaigns began.
Though no federal statistics are kept on murders or any other crimes committed by illegal aliens, a number of groups have produced estimates based on data collected from prisons, news reports and independent research.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53 103 - 37k
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Tomorrow is an important day for the conservative movement. It may very well spell a resounding win for McCain. Although I will be disappointed, will that keep me from voting for McCain? No way. The Clinton ties to the Middle East oil barons scares me because we can see from their fundraising scandals that they have no qualms about making Lincoln Bedroom promises for money (or im Bill's case other compensatory measures). I have been utterly unimpressed with Obama from day one, but even more so I will never forget he is the guy who promised to sit down with the leaders of Venezulea and Iran to engage them.
Let's face it. We all would have been happier with Newt Gingrich or Duncan Hunter, but in the end those who say McCain is worse than Hillary or Obama are just choosing not to think straight. McCain does need a unifying Veep (and be realistic, Huck is anything but unifying) to rally conservatives to the cause. Either way I will be in the booth come November voting for Romney or McCain. Am I settling a bet? You bet. Is it worth it? You bet. |
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Let me make this easy for you. Pick two or three of the many facts I've put forth and provide contradictory evidence from a source other than Michael Savage.
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RJ-I'm going to give you the benfit of the doubt and assume you didn't read the last post. I am telling you to read the report you keep citing. You obviously have not read it or you do not understand basic economics to correctly interpret the report. Either way that needs to be reconciled.
BTW-I have not listened to Michael Savage in years. I think he is a no talent hack who rarely has a moment of clarity. Nothing the man says should be taken at face value. If you insist that I get any information from the man you are a much less intellectual individual than I previously anticipated (and that is saying something). |
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The only point that Hugh makes that's even close reasonable is Romney's ability to match Obama or Cliton dollar wise.
If McCain gets the nod he will be buried. BURIED. |
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Reasons Romney Is Not A Conservative!
1- His Massachusetts Health Care Is The Same As Obama's and Hillary's Plan (it is bankrupting Massachusetts)
2- Romney raised various fees by more than $300 million, including raising fees for driver's licenses, marriage licenses, and gun licenses.
3- Increased the state gasoline tax by 2 cents per gallon, generating about $60 million per year in additional tax revenue.
4- In May 2004 Romney instructed town clerks to begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
5- In 1994 Senate race Romney supported the abortion rights established under Roe v Wade.
6- Waffled on Iraq by mentioning time tables for withdrawl.
7- Approves abortion pill RU-486 while Govenor.
8- The 2002 Olympics - run by Mitt Romney - was the only Olympics that restricted the Boy Scouts from participating9.
9- Went to Paris for 30 months during the Vietnam War for his church and thus avoided the draft. Then went to Harvard and now says he regrets not having had the guts to Man Up!
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Dear ebrasil,
You have a condescending tone when you reply to postings that is not necessary. Regardless of your command, and the command of over other people’s “English” language, I think the debate before the blog has been interesting and fruitful. I respect your convictions, I caution your need to condescend. We all will not win tomorrow, I hope despite our convictions; the right person will win the GOP. As you have indicated, this is my last comment for this morning. Since I am an optimist, I will be fine, my family will be fine, regarless of the outcome. Because I am the ruler of my destiny, no President can change or alter my success nor my opportunities. For I live in the greatest country, that affords my freedom to be.
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No, I'm not worried about Obama's offer to meet with our enemies.
He will have his Carteresque/V8 moment within 2 years.
Every new generation that comes to power optimistically believes that their fresh idealism can move mankind past the unrelenting cycle of human history.
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I've seen lots of talk regarding flip flops directed at the best candidate remaining, Romney. Can you McCain supports stammer out an explanation for these embarrassing turns?…
1) ANWR drilling - McCain voted Yes in 2000, to preserve budget for ANWR oil drilling.
- FLIP FLOP -
Then he voted against drilling in ANWR 4 times (2002, 2003 twice, and 2005), even on national security grounds. At least when Mitt Flips, he flips in our direction.
2) ABORTION - McCain in 2000 said he would not overturn Roe v. Wade, "In the short term or the long term."
-FLIP FLOP-
In 2007, he's in favor (like Mitt) over overturning Roe v. Wade. NOTE: McCain's been very consistent in supporting stem cell research. Nice to know he's creating the aborted baby demand while against aborting babies.
3) 2nd Amendment - Back in 1999, McCain supported a ban on certain assault weapons, a ban on cheap guns; required safety locks for gun show checks. Saw guns as a "problem" along with violent video games.
-FLIP FLOP-
Now in 2007, opposes any ban on assault weapons and ammo. I'm not making this up.
4) Expanded Health Insurance - Mitt in 1999: Expand health insurance to 11 million uninsured children.
-FLIP FLOP-
Now: Opposes universal Health Care.
5) McCain the Hawk - In 1999: Voted YES to round after round of military base closures, and stance was to use force only for America's vital interests.
-FLIP FLOP-
2006: Fully supports Bush Doctrine of preemptive war.
6) Amnesty - McCain Lie: "I never supported Amnesty" (Jan 2006.) FactCheck: Yes, he has, and even explicitly used the word "amnesty" in the past. (May 2007) P.S. McCain also wanted to change the rules barring immigrants from running for President. (May 2007)
7) McCain's grasp of the Economy - FactCheck: Said--then denied--he needed economics education. (Jan 2008)
sources: http://www.ontheissues.org, http://www.factcheck.org
You McCain supporters are willfully blind.
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Respect His wishes. If He says "No Paul," its for your own good. |
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It is now Assumed that if Romney takes California tonight, Romney will announce, possibly as soon as tomorrow morning, that Romney has been for weeks in secret meetings with "Former Speaker of The House of Representatives, Newt Gingrich" and will reveal that Newt Gingrich has AGREED TO SERVE AS ROMNEYS VP if Mitt WINS the Republican Nomination.
I should of seen this coming. I had always assumed Mitt Romney would select Former Governor Jeb Bush of Florida. I am glad I was wrong though.
This just gives me so much more hope knowing if Romney Wins California Mitt will be able to keep fighting on until Texas holds their Primary.
By then McCain's lead of support will almost certaily collapse under the weight of Conservatives knowing Romney plans on "Honoring" Newt Gingrich as the "King of Conservative Purity". |
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The biggest problem I see with all this nitpicking and parsing is that the people who do it show no understanding of what conservative is. Being conservative is not a matter of this word or that or adhering to a position over a long period of time. Those who behave this way are just green with envy vulchers who seek to boost their own importance by picking on others, especially the successful.
I thought you all might like to know how small-minded and venal you come across. How many of you think of yourselves as Christians with your vicious, hateful slander? Months ago, when I was impressed with Romney's outstanding resume, I bought his book Turnaround, and read it. I got a good idea what kind of man he is, and your anklebiting doesn't interest me at all. Why don't you quit embarassing yourselves?
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There is a lot of honest criticism here of Mitt Romney's past record, and that is completely legitimate. I have no problem with honest criticism.
However, folks have to realize that people can change their minds politically as they live, learn, and grow.
I'm sure governing Massachusetts, the land of the Kennedy Dynasty, is quite different than governing, say, Utah.
In my own case, my political convictions ranged from "none" to "liberal" until the Reagan Revolution. During high school, the revolution hit and I became a "rock ribbed" conservative, and have been getting more conservative since (scary, eh?).
One of the things that impressed me about Reagan was that fact that he could tell folks: "I was once a Democrat, then I saw the light." He made no excuses other than to say that with age comes wisdom, so he simply changed his mind when he got older and had experienced more of what life had to offer.
My personal belief, call it intuition if you will, is that Mitt Romney believes what he says today just as much as he believed what he said in the 1990's. There is no sin in growing and learning and changing ones mind. A decade is a long time, especially politically, and one can do a lot of growing and learning in ten years.
If I could change my mind, if Reagan could change his mind, then I can allow for the fact that Mitt Romney can change his mind as well.
Unfortunately, New Mexico's Republican Primary doesn't take place until June (even though the Democrats caucus later today), and I feel it will be all over by then. If McCain sweeps tomarrows voting, I'll never get the chance to vote for Romney, but you can be sure I'm with him in spirit today!
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If Newt is really going to be Romney's running mate, why wait until tomorrow???? Because it's probably a lie to try and convince people to vote for Romney.... stop the lies.
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For that most recent year in particular, McCain scored only 65 % putting him in 47th place for that year. Ben Nelson (D-NE) and Chuck Hagel (R-NE), for example, scored 64 % and 75 % respectively, in 2006.
Generally, McCain has voted less conservatively in more recent years. His average for 1990-97 was 88 % but was only 74 % for 1998-2006. Below are his yearly ratings since 1990.
His Record in recent rears is much lower than the widley known Lifetime Rating of 84 %
People Change and this New Rating Reflects this change. The link below describes McCain's Liberal voting patterns of late.
This is important even if he wins the nomination because John will STILL have to get Conservatives in order to win the General Election, assuming he makes it that far.
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he is getting from the MSM (including FoxNews), idiots like Bob Dole coming out in favor of him at the last second and every pollster (besides Rasmussen) claiming that McCain is leading by 15 points "amongst Conservatives" nationally (Ramussen claims just the opposite is true), it truly will be a miracle. |
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No one will ever convince me that Reagan would approve the terrible things talk radio or netroots are saying about McCain. It make me so sick I almost wish McCain would loose, so I could get out of politics. But I must trudge on however.
I must trudge on even though I fearfull the netroots are so foolish they may really try to defeat McCain, so they can prove they are right.
I know McCain is not a perfect candidate. I am sorry senatorial defeats in Viriginia and Pennsylvania in 2006 deprived conservatives of possibly attractive candidates who could possibly united all conservative. Thus we have what we have. Sorry folks, Romney is not one of those attractive candidates.
Hey Nettroots the MSM has not zeroed in yet on any of the candidates really. |
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To win around 575-600 delegates on Tuesday, Mac does not need to have the majority of votes in California. It is nice to brag about, but California allocates it's votes. Mac is ahead of Mitt is so many other winner take all states that he should win handidly. Still, Mitt should do well in the caucus states. Mac should win 12 states, Mitt 8, and Huck one. But Mac will get roughly double the delegates Mitt will, but still a good night for Mitt. Mac will wish Huck was out, for according to a real study of exit polls you find Huck voters go to Mac as second choice in larger numbers than they go to Mitt. |
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Gingrich is going to run in four years if the Democrats win. He does not want to be a VP of anyone. He'd like to be nominated at a brokered convention, but Newt knows Mac is going to win. He'd worked behind the scenes some for Huck, back when Huck had a chance. |
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Forget everything else that is real and matters for one moment. Who in their right mind thinks that theContankerous old man we saw at Simi Valley last week can stand on the same stage with Obama and not simply look as stupid and bull headed as in his timeline argument with Mitt.
If I had any doubts that exchange settled it for me.
I knocked on 600+ doors the last two weekends and found no, zero, nada McCain supporters but many Romney backers.
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Lots of people have theories about why John McCain is in very good shape for tomorrow. Some think it’s his personal characteristics. (The Pew poll offers some support for this theory with McCain’s favorable/unfavorable split at 72-18% among Republicans and Romney at 49-30%). Some think McCain has shown himself to be a real conservative. Others think being conservative or super-conservative is not enough to win elections, let alone Republican primaries. Some think the competition was weak. Still others find that Mitt Romney’s position changes (even on items in his own life story)are too much to bear, leaving them with no choice but to “question his sincerity.”
There are many reasons, but I would suggest an overriding one: the surge. Without McCain’s determination on the surge and its resulting success, the race would look quite different. In that effort, McCain did show his personal characteristics (tenacity and bravery, most clearly) and many Republicans, conservatives included, came to see him as a warrior in the toughest policy battle in recent memory. It was the means by which he distinguished himself from his competition and by which he could appeal to skeptics who came to see his past policy heresies in greater perspective. (Or it could just be that the competition was very, very weak.)
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HaHaHa. Nice try, "Federal Court Watcher".
As long as there has not been a general election, such a person is called a "running mate".
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excerpt from jtolley at shallsetyoufree.com
Patriotism, because he wants to reward captured terrorist by giving them American legal privilege. Strong immigration policy, as he wants to sell amnesty passes to invaders and thus spit in the face of those who have sacrificed so much to become welcomed members of our country. Freedom of speech as he co-sponsored McCain/Feing (wait, I can’t finish that, it’s too close to election time). Free enterprise by his stance against tax cuts. Common sense and logic by seemingly lacking both. |
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C'mon Hugh, you've been faking enthusiasm for Gov. Romney for weeks. It looks like we will get the often insightful, fairer Hugh back soon enough. Sorry that you won't be selling more copies of your book between now and Jan. 20, 2009.
I'm in TN, and I have not seen a single Romney commercial. He's pulled back and is hoping for a miracle. I suspect Gov. Huckabee and Romney are out by Wednesday night. |
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On Iraq, and more generally on the war on terror, McCain has never wavered in fighting for complete victory. As Bob Dole put it yesterday in a letter to Rush, McCain has put this country's security first "whatever the cost." Indeed, McCain has repeatedly said that he would rather lose this election than lose the war. Apparently for Rush and some other conservative opponents of McCain, it's the other way around. They say a victory by Clinton or Obama will, in the long run, serve the party and the conservative movement. Apparently they'd rather lose the war than see John McCain win this election.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/02/limbaug hs_mccain_derangement_s.asp
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Why did David Keene (VP and future NRA pres) endorse Romney? Do you think he would endorse someone who will jeopardize 2nd amendment rights, an issue he cares deeply about?
You repeated lies about Romney killing gun rights is ridiculous, and shows just how desperate you are. You've posted the same false statement about 25 times.
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He betrayed a wife that stood by him
He betrayed a state that elected him
He betrayed a party that supported him
And he will betray a country that elects him
He was a war hero ONCE....so was Benedict Arnold.
The thing that caused them both to be betrayers? Vanity.
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On the one hand, Hugh claims that Mitt 2008 is a continuation of Reagan 1980--in other words, the dominant political movement in America over the past three decades. On the other, Mitt is claiming to be the "outsider" in the race.
The whole campaign is based upon a contradiction--even a lie. You have to be deeply gullible to accept both those claims. Who knows? It may yet work with the Republican base, whose capacity for self-deception seems limitless. But the idea the broader public is going to buy it is crazy. You cannot fool all the people all the time.
Like that famous story about Adlai Stevenson, when a lady went to him at a mixer in '52 or '56, I don't know which, and said: "Governor, all thinking Americans are pulling for you." And Stevenson said: "Ma'am, that's not enough--we need a majority."
This is Mitt's dilemma. The very flimflam which can secure him the Reep nomination will crush him with the American electorate. With McCain, at least, you have arms length from the evident failures of Republican conservatism. While there is still the likelihood you'll lose in November--this may be a Dem year--McCain has some influence with those non-engaged, political independents who helped GW eke out his 50%+1, but who have long since left the station.
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..a**-blathering commentators back Romney, but elected officials--the guys who actually risk putting their names before the people--back McCain. It is easy to shriek into the wind. There are no consequences. It is not so easy to govern. And while politicians have a justly bad reputation--always have and always will--it is deeply telling that Romney's support is from folks who yammer and entertain for a living, while McCain's support is from those who have had to earn actual votes from actual people. |
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Because you will need it to recall what a good talk show audience looked like.
I am actively avoiding your show now.
I am tired of the all-Romney-format you have adopted. I am even more ticked off over the burned bridge approach you take with those who like McCain and the condescension with which you treat the Huckabee crowd.
I am amazed you have not had FEC complaints against you and Salem for in-kind contributions.
Or are you reporting your show as an in-kind Romny contribution?
I have listened actively to talk radio for over 20 years.
I am an active, contributing, volunteering straight ticket Republican since 1976.
What you now do is not talk radio. Nor is it effective campaigning. It is a terrible combination of the two. |
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The Stupid Party
The RNC wants an amnesty candidate.
Don't vote for one.
Another amnesty will result in Democrat majorities for decades, or until they are supplanted by the La Raza Party, why doesn't the RNC know that? How stupid do you have to be to import voters for the opposition at the same time you alienate your own voters? Nominating any of the amnesty supporters is a losing proposition, we will not support them. If the GOP intends to surrender our sovereignty and abandon the rule of law, they will find in November 2008, that they still have their big money/cheap labor donors, but they do not have voters. GOP-RIP
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You know why Latino's and Latina's are taking your jobs? Because employers prefer them over you and your ilk. They're better educated, highly motivated, and they don't waste their time whining and whining and whining about how everything is the fault of everybody else, except you.
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[LibertyJaw on February 5, 2008 1:08 AM]"but McCain/Huck
have you to bring all of those things to our attention"
Very funny. I can inform a very few people, but that's it.
Back when Terri Schindler Schiavo was being starved to death, the same thing occurred: I informed a very few people about the facts of the situation, yet nothing came of my presenting those facts. TSS still ended up being starved to death.
TSS story with villains, victims, and heroes
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115741978.8204 40.50060%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
not-PVS
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1115683914.3949 27.244340%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Giuliani, Romney, McCain wrong on Schiavo case
http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/05/attorney_says_giuliani_ro mney.php
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/may/07052511.html
"the MSM has given both Huck and McCain a free-ride"
Huckabee has been asked tough questions by Hannity, on TV.
Mike Wallace asked Huckabee tough questions, and he did fine.
"the MSM has... really hammered Romney"
Over what? Flipping on LDS theology?
Romney's flip on LDS theology
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a4 9-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
Flipping on taxes and social issues?
Romney hit hard on MSNBC -Taxes, Flip-flops, & Social Issues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8bSyAihn18
"I haven't seen even one blog out here that is discussing Romney that doesn't have rabid cut and pasters like yourself.
Your points are being made."
There is at least one energetic, highly influential lawyer of a cheerleader for Romney here. A cheerleader for whom Romney has done no wrong, and would make a superb nominees (despite Romney's serial lying ways and lack of *any* core convictions).
If Romney becomes the nominee, you can be sure the MSM and 527s will discuss ad nauseum Romney's flip-flopping and many lies.
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Not being a very religious person myself. I keep thinking, Forgive them father for they know not what they have done.
Looks like Obama will be the democrat nominee. McCain will get slaughtered.
So this will be what McCain supporters have brought us with their hatred for the Mormans.
I am raised on Chicago politics and I know all the players well.
Let me tell you something about Obama the press will never let see the light of day. And if it is brought up by the Republicans, the press will call you intolerant.
Almost all Chicago democrat politics goes through the southside of this city.
The black churches. All the black churches are connected to Louis Farrakhan. No matter the denomination.
Hillary brought this up but was quickly silenced.
The feds have in custody a Tony Rezko.Tony started his rise in Chicago politicsby being a manager for Mohammad Ali. Therefore became very good friends and contributor to Louis Farrakhan.
Tony is also a freind of our governor. We have a hate crimes commission here and Tony appointed several people to this commission. One appointee was Sister Claudette Mohammad a deciple of Farrakhan. There was a big uproar but Louis is so powerful in the Chicago demcratic party she stays on that commission.
Now to the point. Tony Rezko the Farrakhan supporter, is the same person that bought Obama and Michelle home with them. Google it.Many people around Obama have direct connections to Farrakhan.
Like I said. Forgive them father they know not what they have done.
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Hugh, where are the days when comments leapt into the several hundreds?
And when you substract the nativist spammers, you currently have about 50 unique visitors a day? |
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"So this will be what McCain supporters have brought us with their hatred for the Mormans."
It's Mormons, you idiot |
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Hugh, if you’re really that concerned about McCain being outraised by Obama, maybe you should be urging people to stop wasting donations and support on Paul, Romney, and Huckabee?
Actually, this problem will go away no matter who the GOP nominee is. Once the deadwood is cleared away, the nominee will get plenty of financial support. |
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Mclame during the last debate was taking credit that he was the only one supporting the surge. All republicans voted to support the surge in congress and the senate, he was noticed that when gets angry that he is being tough. All I say was an angry undiscipline elderly man showing that if you don not agree with him he will through a tamptram. Mitt showed great restraint and professionalism, which people mistook for weakness. I am sure he has learned to do this from being involvrd in the Corporate world in the private sector. |
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I think conservatives are going to be crushed this time around by events and by Republicans abandoning fiscal conservatism. The Republicans in Congress went on a spending spree and Bush didn't have a problem with it. So the economic conservatives have had it with the Bush brand of conservative. The other major event was Bush not finding the WMD. So "conservative" is now associated with fiscal irresponsibility and unnecessary war. Can any movement have worse baggage than that. I think Clinton came out in the black because Gingrich actually did impose fiscal restraint, but that eroded. So Bush is really the end of us. I like GW, but he and the last R Congress killed us. Unfortunately, McCain is missing some of the major beliefs too. So if McCain gets elected as a conservative, we'll be tagged with anything bad that happens under him too. Maybe the only hope for this ideology is if no one gets elected under this label at all right now. I could vote for McCain in the general, but only if he doesn't call himself a conservative. |
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You're right I'm the idiot. But I'm not the one voting for a decrepit old
warmonger. You'll get just what you deserve. |
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I don't buy that McCain supporters are by and large anti-Mormon. I think the largest number of anti-Mormons are for the Huckster. Who, BTW is making a complete fool of himself by not dropping out. He seems to lack the ability to be embarrassed. |
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Vote for Romney! He's got more principles and integrity - never cheated on his wife (McCain has) and will never cheat on his oath of office. He was selected to replace the corrupt management at the Olympics precisely because he has an impecable reputation for honesty.
Romney is the only candidate, now viable, who is for the Marriage amendment. This is the most important issue in this election as it will determine how many children have BOTH A MOM AND A DAD and therefore our economy and millitary strength.
According to the trusted FRC - Family research council, Romney is 100% in agreement with conservative family values. McCain is only 59% in agreement with their list of issues. |
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If you value your citizenship so little, why don't you leave? |
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Anyone else notice? I find it very offensive that he is so cocky. As if his time in Hanoi now should entitle him to time in the white house. Sorry McCain. In about 10 minutes I'm leaving to cast my vote for
Mitt Romney!
Huck is dishonest, can't win, and hates anyone who does not toe his very narrow line. Typical preacher: Do as i say, not as I do... |
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If you still read your Bible (mine has more dust than it should), you can't help but think that you're right. He may be giving us over. We're all dividing up. People we thought we're our friends don't seem to be now. You always read the stories about ancient Israel, and you wonder how did they lose it. How could they be so stupid, but I think they also thought they weren't so bad in their day. The majority eventually came to a consensus that their behaviors and beliefs were good despite prophets telling them otherwise. I know we're not Israel, but the parallels are spooky. Remember when gambling was a vice? Now the state not only supports it, it's advertised as good because some of the money is used to support schools or clean up the environment. Actually, I can't even remember why it's wrong, but my moral memory still vaguely knows that it is. Most of us have sold out to this world and we know it. Time to pray. Politics won't solve what's really wrong with this country. |
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....so elect a sitting senator to the presidency!" - Joe and the McCain Brigade |
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If there was ever a strong indication that McCain was off the conservative reservation, his hard push for McCain-Lieberman in an election year should be enough evidence. That was a calculated effort to appeal to the liberals. I expect McCain to announce his running mate Liberman soon. |
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"...and he would easily best Obama in one-on-ones on television"
If I were Obama, I would show the "tale of two Mitts" and tell Mitt - Mitt, please debate yourself and I will watch.
Oh by the way.."Romney by contrast has enormous energy and an appeal built on the future, not the past.."
So, lets see - Romney has lot of flip-flops in the past, so Hugh says lets ignore the past and focus on the future. Ok, convenient. But with McCain, lets only look at the past and his supposed betrayal of the base and not what he can do in the future.
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All Reagan conservatives can make a difference today by voting for Mitt and derailing McCain enough so this goes on until the brokered convention.....delegates will decide on Mitt.
I hope Zogby has it right with Mitt in the lead in California. If so, I will have more respect for John Zogby.
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I know it may not matter much in New York if the polls are accurate, but I am proud to say that myself and 20 or so friends and family are voting for Mitt Romney today on Long Island. Not only are we voting FOR Governor Romney and his vision for America, but we are voting for him as a push back against the moderates in the party. If you have any doubt about what John McCain will mean to the Republican party, you needn't look further than New York. Here, the moderates in our party have destroyed a once-proud and vaunted political machine here in Nassau County and wrecked a state party under George Pataki (who endorsed McCain yesterday)where now Democrats outnumber Republicans 5-to-1.
We are now faced with a choice. Do we choose a successful Governor, an executive who has proven he can get the job done in the toughest of environments or do we chose the media-anointed maverick senator who can hedge and hide behind he record as a senator? The prospect of a Presidential nominee, John McCain, who will not only fracture the Republican party as the moderates have done in New York, he will also gravely place the nation in danger with liberal policies in regard to immigration, courts, and taxes.
When Republicans reach across the aisle, there is seldom a hand reaching across on the other side. We have seen this time and again, most recently from Pesident Bush. We cannot win this election by believing the mainstream media's pronouncement that the GOP "needs" independents and Democrats and can do without the conservative base. We do not win elections with our core principles are compormised: 1976, 1996, 2006.
Friends and relatives tell me there is a big Romney surge in Delaware and Georgia - the same feedback I received last week headed into Maine from friends there.
Let's get this done, friends. The party and the country needs us. Make calls, send money, GO VOTE ROMNEY! |
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I am self employeed so Illegal Aliens are not taking my job.
They are taking to jobs of my fellow Americans and that is wrong.
I also do not hire illegal aliens and have to compete with those who do.
If you want amnesty, why not go vote for a real Socialist (d)? |
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Since all anyone really cares about on this blog is CA, McCain is up 65-35 on InTrade this morning.
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Funny,
McCain was up 90 to 10 three days ago.
Looks like a swing. |
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1. Paul Mirengoff’s explanation of why he decided to vote for Romney persuaded me to vote for McCain. Right up to the conclusion, I agreed with nearly every word Paul wrote. Like Paul, I see Romney as data-driven, McCain as man much more likely to make his decisions based on “instinct,” although the word I would use is not “instinct” but “principle.” (Nobody undergoes torture in a North Vietnamese campe rather than accept an offer of freedom, as McCain did, based on “instinct.”) But there are times—lots of times—when a president must make decisions under conditions of imperfect information, and other times—again, lots of times—when even heaps of data cannot in and of themselves lead a chief executive to the right conclusion.
In my own experience, the most vivid example of a decision on principle, not data, involved Reagan's 1987 Berlin Wall address. The critical datum: that the entire foreign policy apparatus of the United States government objected to the line, “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.” Reagan overruled them, delivering it anyway. “The boys at State are going to kill me for this,” Reagan remarked, “but it’s the right thing to do.”
I can see John McCain making that decision. I can’t see Mitt Romney doing so.
2. About a year ago, I was inclined to support Romney—for a time, I even preferred him to Thompson. Then I saw this now famous video. I expected Romney’s campaign to help me get over it. It hasn’t. To the contrary, as Dean Barnett has written, Romney has “mounted a campaign that was, at its most basic level, insincere.” McCain may leave much to be desired, but, again, he practices politics by applying underlying principles to the questions of the day. Romney engages in product positioning.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YTg5OTliZDJkMjY4OT A0NjZhM2U5MWQ4YzY2MzBiYjE= |
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Boasting in Boston [Michael Graham]
I am so confident of both a Patriots win today and a Romney win in Massachusetts on Tuesday that I made this pledge on the air Friday: "If the NY Giants beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl, I will vote cast my Super Duper Tuesday primary vote for (shudder) John McCain."
So when I say "Go, Pats!" I really, REALLY mean it.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Yzg5ODM3NmMxMDdiMz Y3NDEwNzhjYTZhMjhiOTE1M2E=
Graham picked the wrong team. It is a sign from God to vote for McCain.
I also think they are even more of a lead-pipe cinch to win the Super Bowl than McCain is to win the GOP nomination. Either way, I'm putting my money..er vote where my mouth is.
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"McCain, for his part, has refused to engage with Limbaugh, telling reporters: "I don't listen to him. There's a certain trace of masochism in my family, but not that deep."
How can you not love McCain?
GO MAC!
Here is the best party - McCain won half of Romney's strong conservatives and a majority of the Party's lean conservatives by refusing to kiss Rush's ring.
Think how strong this will make him in the general!
At this point I hope Mitt has a good day in Cali and decides to stay in the race. I've done the math as have Barone and Jay Cost - Mitt simply cannot win. But if he stays in the race he will have to waste more of his personal wealth and I would rather he pump it into the economy than have it for himself... HA!
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McCain graduated at the bottom of his class
they had to PUSH him out\
his foul mouth
his lies about lies he is a compulsive liar
(he was not even in congress until
l983 how could he be a FOOT soldier in the Reagan revolution of l981 ???
His stock reply to every question
"when pigs fly"
Frumpy bottom of the class beside Obama who
graduated at the TOP OF HIS CLASS
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Could be. Futures markets are funny things. They react to lots of different things, sometimes in a matter of minutes. FWIW, the "National Election" InTrade has McCain up 87-10 this morning.
I suspect there will be significant movement all day on CA, and significant movement after the polls close in various time zones. |
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I cannot in good conscience vote for someone who mandates purchasing health insurance, is conveniently pro-life when it suits him politically, and switches between supporting and opposing an "assault" weapons ban when he thinks it will benefit him with a particular audience. These are not conservative positions.
I will vote for the candidate who only increased taxes and spending when ordered to do so by the courts, who has always been pro-life, and recognizes that the second amendment is not about hunting but about the defense of freedom from tyranny. Go Mike.
To those of you who claim I would throw the election to John McCain, think on this for a second. Neither one of the two front runners are true conservatives. If I vote for the conservative in the election, but everyone else votes for a non-conservative, who has really given the election and the party away?
Besides, I don't vote for another week. If Mike ends up out of the race before next Tuesday, I'll either write him in or vote for Ron Paul. To Hell with the faux conservatives. My Principles before my Country before my Party. |
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Foul mouth McCain
graduated at the bottom of his class
YOU WANT TO ELECT someone who is dumber than
you are ?? |
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I have researched for a long time - Mitt is the man!!! He by far is the most talented candidate we have had for many years. Go Mitt!!!! |
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You seem so resentful of people with money: Well, McCain is one of the richest Senators, thanks to his trophy wife Cindy. |
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YES
RUDY RUDY RUDY RUDY for 6 months at the top
then::: FRED FRED FRED FRED for 3 months
Then: HUCK HUCK HUCK for a month
NOw: the MSM polls are McCain McCain for
about a Month
the POLLS are MSM driven
name recognition
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Didn't they used to run a cocaine ring in Arkansas before they went into politics?
Somebody said that somewhere, I think.
I'm not saying I believe it. I just felt that I should mention it in a national public forum. |
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It is not honorable to conspire behind closed doors with Ted Kennedy and La Raza against the American people.
It is not honorable to try to rush an amnesty for foreign nationals illegally in our country AND their employers through Congress without committee hearings shortcutting the normal process.
It is not honorable to have contempt for the will of the people. "I'll build the G-D fence if they want it." |
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We cannot afford McCain
McCain's amnesty plan supports
35 million illegals plus their families and extended family members and then members of the extended families:
WHEW::: we should just merge with Mexico it would be cheaper:
McCain's amnest plan will
suck our treasury dry
depress wages
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Have you heard that Huckabee add that claims that he has won 'primaries' and instead of promoting him as a candidate, promotes his book? Is he using campaign funds to keep royalty checks coming to his bank? He is just an unemployed preacher at this point, with enough ego to keep going in the hopes of getting the VP slot.
A vote for Paul is a vote for McCain, too.
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And you seem like naive sour grapes little fool.
How in the hell did you reach that conclusion? I don’t resent people who are successful. I hope to be wealthy some day.
But I do resent it when people are so blind by their egomaniacal delusions of grandeur that they will waste their million in an attempt to buy support at the cost of Republican unity.
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Isn't he the guy who advocates deporting non-evangelicals?
I'm not sure that I believe that, but it's a possibility.
I just thought I'd ask about it in a public forum. |
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...and see that Conservatives who want to preserve our great nation and our freedoms it protects--as designed by the Founding Fathers--have a candidate with integrity for the Presidency that is highly qualified for the job: Mitt Romney.
We have before us our David, going against these Goliaths: the mainstream media (disappointingly, including Fox News), Washington D.C. 'I'll-do-you-a-favor-if-you-do-one-for-me' Insiders, and too many unserious citizens in a serious time (to paraphrase a quote from Pat Buchanan).
Picture these things:
1. Romney debating McCain, one-on-one...oh wait, that won't happen...McCain has already been refusing to do that.
2. McCain debating Clinton: an Insider love-in
3. Romney debating Clinton: leadership and management experience vs. 'it's my turn'
4. McCain debating Obama: the appearance of a cartoon-->hot-head little bully Yosemite Sam easily taken down by slick and clever Bugs Bunny
5. Romney debating Obama: knowledge, experience, and zeal for the preservation of our country vs. talk of dreams and a path to socialism. Obama finally has to answer to 'where's the beef?'
I am with Mitt.
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Your hate campaign of lies against Huckabee are disgusting.
You even acknowledge that they are not based on fact. If you want to go there two can play that game.
Isn't Mitt Romney the guy who molested his boys when they were 8 and 10 respectively?
I'm not sure that I believ that, but it's a possibility.
I just thought I'd ask about it in a public forum. |
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As expected, you cannot refute even one of the facts I've presented. It's like you have your fingers in your ears, your eyes closed, and you're screaming, "nah nah nah nah nah"
"I'm not listening, Vote for Mitt"
"nah nah nah nah nah" |
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John McCain is a hero. I would like nothing better than if he were on the side of conservatives. I would like nothing better than if he fought for conservative ideals. I would like nothing better than to say he stands by us, and we stand by him.
But he doesn't. I would even like it if he ran a transparent campaign, but he hasn't. He has ran a campaign of maneuvers. A campaign manipulating every lever--and sorry but that makes me hot. And pulling an October surprise by way of Senator Dole was just the latest maneuver.
I have no doubt that he loves his country, but so do I, and that is why I voted Romney.
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in order to offset all the free publicity given to his opponents. I thank God he has it, otherwise, we'd have no alternative besides the Huckster and Shamnisty to represent the conservative base...two people the MSM has been trying to foist upon us since they arrived.
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There have been rumors that Mitt Romney is a closet homosexual for years. In fact, many people believe that the reason he hired illegal aliens to work at his home was so that he could molest the younger latino boys and then threaten to deport them if they went to the authorities.
I'm not sure that I believ that, but it's a possibility.
I just thought I'd ask about it in a public forum.
Problem#1 I don't believe it but if it makes Romney look bad I'll post it.
PRoblem#2 Rumor. Did you start this rumor? How dishonest. Even if this is true you have no idea that it is and no way of knowing.
It's negative for Romney so you post it. How dishonest. You really can tell a lot about a leader by his constituents.
Tex is this what they teach you in your church along with all the other lies about mormonism? Like the lie that mormons teach that Christ and Satan are brothers inferring that mormons have an affinity for the devil.
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Here's some TRUTH about Huckster and his boys. His kids are a bunch of fat, animal abusing criminals that are an embarassment to him. That's why you don't see them on the campaign trail.
That's what we need in the whitehouse...a bunch of backwards inbred hillbillies cashing in on thier relative's fame...more Billy Bear anyone? Howabout a presidential pardon? We got a special on those today.
The man can't even manage his own family, how's he going to manage a country?
He must be running for vice president or hoping that McShamnisty will create a cabinet position for court jester because that's all he's good for.
Let's let him go to state dinners so he can tell eveyone how they're supposed to eat their fried chicken.
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If I wanted cheap un-skilled labor I would hire an illegal alien.
If I want quality worker with skills who can speak english, have a valid D.L. and Insurance.
I would hire an American.
You carpet layer should consider paying a wage that motivates his employee or give him the option to hire a better employee.
Our labor force can not work for Illegal Alien wages unless they are willing to live with 20 people in a single appartment. |
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Those of you who saw Deroy Murdock's smear piece against Romney: Deroy lied.
Murdock did NOT use the whole quote:
"I was not planning on signing up for the military," he said. "It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam, but nor did I take any actions to remove myself from the pool of young men who were eligible for the draft. If drafted, I would have been happy to serve, and if I didn't get drafted I was happy to be with my wife and new child."
CHECK OUT MY BLOG FOR A REBUTTAL TO EVERY ANTI-ROMNEY SMEAR
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We need to clean up our party before we can go to the general election. Fight your fight what ever it is.
My fight is to retake the party back from McCain. If he wins we true conservatives lose, and you on the religious right will see your country continue to slide into the gutter.
http://www.fightagainstmccain.com/ |
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[Mc_Tex on February 5, 2008 10:31 AM]"'McCain, for his part, has refused to engage with Limbaugh, telling reporters: "I don't listen to him. There's a certain trace of masochism in my family, but not that deep."
How can you not love McCain?"'
If McCain threatens your livelihood by advancing restrictions on speech. I bet that's the main, driving force behind Limbaugh and Levin laying into McCain-- his campaign finance reform legislation.
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Romney owes talk radio debt of gratitude
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg /f66e6dad0487ed0f
Romney on Campaign Finance Reform: cap spending levels in campaigns, abolish PACs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM0x8WnI4to&feature=related
David Limbaugh's ignorance.
Romney's flip-flops on immigration, minimum wage, abortion, homosexual agenda, campaign finance reform,
gun control, LDS theology.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=8458206d-7aa4-4800-9a4 9-948df8f8035a%40p1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com
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[Jay]"According to the trusted FRC"
What does FRC say about Romney appointing open homosexuals to positions of authority?
Jacobs, Ethan. 3 March 2005. "Mitt Romney’s secret gay history!" _Bay Windows_
http://www.baywindows.com/index.php?ch=columnists&sc=the_ro mney_files
Romney also continued Weld’s tradition of appointing openly gay people to key positions in his administration. One of his first cabinet appointments was Daniel Grabauskas, who Romney chose to serve in his cabinet as secretary of the Executive Office of Transportation and Construction.
The new governor’s transition team also included several openly gay people, including Grabauskas, former lieutenant governor candidate and current president of the national Log Cabin Republicans Patrick Guerriero, and former Mass. Log Cabin president Mark Goshko.
Other gay Romney appointees include John Wagner, commissioner of the state welfare department, Mitchell Adams, executive director of the Massachusetts Technology Collaborative, and Jonathan Spampinato, a member of Romney’s Diversity and Equal Opportunity Council. Two out lesbian appointees were fired by the governor shortly after getting legally married to their same-sex partners: Ardith Wieworka, former commissioner of Child Care Services, who was let go last summer, and Katherine Abbott, former commissioner of the Department of Conservation and Recreation, who was asked to resign last month after her department was blamed for not adequately clearing sidewalks
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He [Romney] offered political and financial support to two openly gay Republican candidates for state representative in 2004, Richard Babson in the Eighth Suffolk District and Michael Motzkin of the Ninth Essex District, who both lost. Both candidates were promoted as part of the Romney Reform Team.
Romney judges
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9380a1ac-650e-4e62-a8a 8-cc86e06ca2a1%40q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
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You two morons (or did I spell that correctly?)
I was making a point about your boy - the Romney supporter - DANIEL - who was attacking Huck.
#1 I am not a Huckabee supporter
#2 What he was doing was evil and I was trying to get Romney supporters to condemn him
And how do you two idiots respond?
Well Matt attacks me for failing to understand the irony of my post - what a blathering fool you are!
How does Cognito respond? By continuing to attack Huckabee.
You Romney supporters are not just stupid and naive - you are not just classless - you are proactively immoral.
Shew now... Shew....
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John McCain represents the worst vote any republican could make. Mitt is the only person who can fix America's ailing economy. McCain admitted he knows nothing about economics. McCain will however spend all of your hard earned tax dollars to keep Americans in Iraq until 2030. He already voted against a middle class tax cut. Mitt promises to stimulate the economony by providing a tax cut. He is after all, a self made millionare. McCain is a washed-up veteran who is sick of being that liberal senator from Arizona and now needs a promotion at this very late stage in his life. He will be the oldest person in history to get a nomination. His health is another grave concern that American's need to ponder before voting on a man who could die one year into his presidency.
GO MITT! |
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A McCain supporter counseling someone on morality. If I wanted a lesson in morality, I wouldn't take it from someone that supports an adulterer and liar like McCain.
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“Mitt is the only person who can fix America's ailing economy”
Like he fixed Massachusetts? No thank you! You know what they called it when Mitt was governor- Massivetaxes.
“McCain admitted he knows nothing about economics. McCain will however spend all of your hard earned tax dollars to keep Americans in Iraq until 2030”
McCain admitted he knows more about the economy than Mitt because he has had to actually legislate economic policy for decades. If Mitt was so smart about the economy why did he support ethanol subsidies to Iowans, a $20 billion dollar tax-payer funded bailout to the people of Michigan and nationalizing catastrophic insurance to the people of Florida? That’s called socialism! McCain opposed all three.
“Mitt promises to stimulate the economony (sic) by providing a tax cut”
Mitt claims to NOW support the McCain surge policy – so which is it? He supports using our hard-earned tax dollars to keep us on the path to victory in Iraq or he supports timetables for withdrawing? Mitt said the latter is a lie but you are now promoting his first lie. Aren’t you confused?
McCain did not vote against a middle class tax cut. McCain voted for the McCain 2001 tax cut plan which had large tax cuts to the middle class PLUS it included reductions in spending. Furthermore, after losing that fight, McCain stated that any change of the Bush tax cuts would now result in a tax increase. McCain always votes against tax increases which is why he has now twice voted to make the Bush tax cuts permanent. Mitt has been on every side of this issue depending on what state he is in.
Mitt Romney is a liberal wolf in Republican clothes. A vote for Romney is a vote for John Kerry. As Mitt Romney said time and time again - he is "not a Regan Republican". He said "I am independent of Reagan".
Yes he is and all true Reagan Republicans will vote against him!
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What difference does it make who I support? How can truth be subjective?
Either my counsel to you was right or it was wrong. You chose not to prove that it was wrong but now respond with MORE personal attacks.
You are not only immoral - but you are intrensically evil. You have sold you soul to some plastic man and in the process embraced all of the natural attributes of liberalism.
Enjoy your new philosophy and bed-fellows. You so deserve each other! |
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Are you implying that Mitt Romney can beat Obama, Really???? Not even close.
BTW - McCain supporter does not equal mormon hater.
I have been concerned about the Farrakan (?) connection for some time now, when will all that be vetted? |
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Adulterer?? What are your thoughts about Newt??? Now those are some conservative values. Screw around on your wife, when found out, hide in shame for a few years hoping everyone will forget. |
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Are you forgetting the way he kicked his crippled wife to the curb in order to marry a younger richer woman?
I call that adultery. Being a war hero doesn't whitewash it for me. |
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It is quite amazing how you pick and choose what to remember in a story. McCain and his first wife were seperated for some time.
"Kicked his crippled wife to the curb."
Wow, that is quite an exageration. The marriage failed, I don't know exactly why, but I would guess that being a POW for 5 1/2 years probably changed him. And during that time, she probably changed too. It is my understanding that McCain still pays for her rehabilitation.
Glass houses my Friend... |
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Just answer the question.
What are your thoughts about Rush Limbaugh and Newt?
You are such a hypocrite! |
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I am getting the distinct impression that most conservatives are very judgemental people. And many are just hipocrits. You talk about adultry, yet prop up Newt. You smear Hucks boys, yet Reagan had a horrible relationship with his kids.
Glass houses my friends.
You should really still to the political issues and leave the personal stuff out, it makes all of you look like ignorant hipocrits. |
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cogito gets his/her info from the National Enquirer. ie. personal smears on the candidates. |
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You're such a liar. How can you ASSume I support either Rush or Newt? I havn't said word one about either of them.
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Just a few weeks ago Hugh was predicting big wins for Romney in South Carolina where "real conservatives" reside. Apparently he now thinks California is the land of "real conservatives."
It's sooo nice seeing grassroots Republicans resoundingly rejecting the big money, northeast establishment candidate that is Mitt Romney.
I happily voted for Huckabee in Georgia today. Although I don't think he'll win, he's the clear choice for real social conservatives who don't appreciate having a plastic moneyman shoved down their throats.
Romniacs believe that Huckabee supporters would flock to their candidate if he pulled out of the race.
They couldn't be more wrong. |
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