Friday, July 10, 2009
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Long Live the Second Amendment
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Posted by:
Katie Pavlich at
4:02 PM
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When I turned 11 years old, my father gave me my first hunting rifle with a sling that has “Katie P.” stitched on to it. Three elk, four deer, and two javelina later, this rifle has come in handy over the years during our many successful hunting trips together.
I’m from Arizona, and you have to be 21 years to take the Concealed Weapon Carry Weapon Permit class and to own a pistol. Today is my 21st birthday, meaning this birthday is my dad’s most anticipated, important and exciting birthday of all (besides when I turned 10 and was eligible to go hunting for the first time), and the gift my father gave me fully supports the second amendment.
He let me know that he put a card in the mail, and that my gift was a certificate for the concealed carry course when I got back home. He also threw in that if I wanted to get a pistol, we’d go pick one of those up too.
Long live the second amendment.
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I'd be proud to claim Katie as a granddaughter. |
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I am 26 and I got my CWCP just a few months ago and I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. It is refreshing to see other young women enjoy such a beautiful and important right as well! Congrats to you! |
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the importance of your state constitutional right to keep and bear arms. In AZ, that provision reads:
"The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the State shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain, or employ an armed body of men."
Had the US Supreme Court ruled the other way in the Heller decision, you would have still been able to fall back on this constitutional provision. In fact, state constitutional provisions are more important than the federal ones, as the federal government is a creation of the states, and theoretically could be disbanded by the states. And even if your state constitution had no right to arms guarantee, you still have the right as an individual to arm and protect yourself. As the Founding Fathers argued, this is a right that stems from both natural law and common law, and needs no constitutional enshrinement for it to exist.
But constitutions are adopted to make it clear what the peoples' fundamental rights are. They do not *create* these rights; they merely explicitly recognize them, putting the government on notice that they SHALL NOT be infringed.
Congrats on your 21st, and on obtaining your CCW. |
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Congratulations on your recent birthday and your CCW. Pray that you never have to use it, but be practiced enough to do so If needed. |
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Thankfully this thread has been troll-free so far. Go to YouTube and search "Katy's Firearms Facts". This Canadian girl is no more than 16 now. Her dad challenged the idiotic laws in Canada passed by "the people who keep us safe" as Katy calls the bureaucrats.
They TOOK his house (although he can still live there) under some moronic provision of the Byzantine Canuckistan gun laws. NO trial and NO proof needed. He's guilty till proven innocent in Canada.
-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!! |
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And it will just keep getting better! Your Dad sounds a lot like mine.
Any young person able to handle a gun resposibly, and talk about it on a national forum, deserves applause. So I applaud you!
Keep going to the firing range, Katie! |
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You go girl, props to you and your Dad. Carry that permit with pride.
Any woman who can field dress a javelina or a moose is ok in my book.
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You have been raised right. My hat is off to your father.
Would like to invite you to come visit us at http://www.opencarry.org and our forums. |
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...suffering from phallic symbol envy. |
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Great story, thanks for sharing. You have a great dad, especially since he chose to teach you the awareness and respect for nature that comes with being an outdoorsman; which every child should learn. I love the fact that more women are becoming involved in the sport.
The 2nd Amendment is a freedom that the citizens of this country should extremely value. There are multiple benefits of gun ownership. Every individual has the right to protect and defend themselves. There is no quicker or surer way of doing this than gun ownership. Oddly enough, many seem to hate the very notion of gun ownership. I don't believe that these people fully understand the scope of what this freedom allows us as human beings. They do not rationalize that not allowing the people to posses firearms will only effect the law abiding citizens. Also, they surely do not understand how gun ownership allows for a society to defend themselves from an over-zealous government. Sound familiar? It's the primary reason why we have this amendment. |
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It brought my own Dad to mind. He's been gone to the Buck Hunt in the Sky since '96. I grew up in the post-war years in an L.A. suburb, but because of Pop's love of the outdoors--particularly the mountains--my younger brother and I half grew up in the San Gabriel, San Bernardino and the Sierra Nevada Ranges. A magical time in my life. Like your birthday present, Dad gave me a Winchester .22 rifle for my 10th and a Winchester Model 94, 30-30 for my 15th. My brother and I took the NRA course to be permitted to hunt Bucks in our mid-teens. I carried a loaded pistol in my car in L.A. from 1990 until my wife and I moved to Orlando in '03. Here, it's Legal and encouraged.
Baa-Daa-Bing.
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cherish their second amendment rights. they thank you and the nra for stopping the intrusion of big government into their personal right to bear firearms. |
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but we all (I CERTAINLY AM) should be prepared to defend ourselves with UNregistered firearms against these gangs which the local government, by order of the big bad Federal Govt. is turning a blind eye to. Our weapons will come in handy when the govt. decides to reign in some of we dissidents.....never doubt their
intentions for a moment. |
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aka remember waco, my little friend. |
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So, you figger which gangs are legally armed, Fool? Bloods..? Nope. Crips..? No way. MS-13..? Forget it. Who, Babycakes??
God, they grow them stupid on the left. |
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how many rounds could a guy get off back in the late 18th century? more importantly, we did not have much of an army to speak of and we were surrounded by hostiles: english, french, spaniards, russians, not to mention the endless crazy quilt of indian nations. that's why firearms are constitutional--because it met the needs of the time. also, there was a gentleman's code, where dueling was common and honorable. guys are so ridiculous when they try to take an aspect of our historical experience and transform it into a timeless moral truth.
no doubt, guns are a part of Americana. mostly rural America. but i, for one, am tired of these strutting buffoons who think they're something because they pack heat. they are the moral equivalent of crack heads. |
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I have been a black powder shooter for over thirty years now. With a RIFLE and pre-measured loads and a loading block (google that idiot) I can load and fire a flinter in under a minute. That's considered fast for a RIFLE.
The mainstay of 18th Century warfare was the SMOOTHBORE. Either a fowling piece with a ball in it (civilian) or a military musket. Both used undersized balls. A trained English infantryman was EXPECTED to fire no less than four rounds a minute. With 500-1000 men in a line that's 2-4000 12 ga. balls a minute coming at you. That's one reason they lined up like that.
Sure the rifle was deadly out to 300 yards and settled the score at King's Mountain, Saratoga and Cowpens, but riflemen were often overrun and slaughtered by English and Hessian soldiers with bayonets.
The tech argument has been flailed since Stockton and it didn't hold water then OR now. The Founders knew that the hand cannon (lit match) led to the matchlock, wheelock, snaphaunce and the flintlock. They were NOT ignorant of the fact that guns were getting better.
For the tech argument to work you have to ban TV, Radio and modern newspapers. In the 18th century instant communication beyond 100 ft was impossible and they had hand-cranked presses.
-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!! |
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Rafaella's little "Mr. Happy" is probably turbocharged and hooked up to a Die-Hard!!!!
-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!! |
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Of course the founders knew tech was improving. i'm sure they expected it. did they foresee semi-automatic triggering systems? that would be a ridiculous thing to assert. and it would be ridiculous to claim that the founders would have unambiguously defended gun ownership in the face of such knowledge. or that they would have unambiguously defended gun ownership if you told them our country would be more urbanized, with 300 million, rather than 3 million.
nor is weapons technology comparable to more benign technologies. no one is arguing against pharma simply because it also evolved into meth. don't create an argument that isn't there. no one is making the luddite argument. stop thumping your chest and address the points. a thing has to be looked at in itself. and guns today are a nasty, uncivilized, anti-democratic, authoritarian, barbaric piece of business.
you did not address at all the militia aspect of the 2nd amendment. gun ownership was reserved because our frontier land was beset by hostiles. period.
unimpressive, mr. lifetime NRA. come back when you have something compelling. i am open to being wrong on this. but i haven't heard anything from you guys besides distorted history and crazed emotion. |
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the supreme court has ruled that militia meant any armed citizen ,our forefathers did not foresee automatic weaponry ,but they did forsee that their could come a time when the citizenry would have to rise again against a represive goverment .taxation without representation was my ancestors cry ours will be taxation through misrepresentation when we have had enough. It is my prayer that blood will not be shed and fear that it will. |
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