Monday, April 28, 2008
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Michelle Obama's "Moving the Bar" Speech
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Posted by:
Hugh Hewitt at
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I played all of Pastor Wright's address and q-and-a from today's National Press Club speech today, as well as a lengthy interview with major General Rick Lynch, commander of the 3rd Infantry Division in Iraq, so there wasn't much time for anything except some excerpts from Michelle Obama's campaign speech on Friday night.
The clips I played generated a lot of angry e-mail. Duane will post the clips here later tonight. Listen for yourself and decide whether Michelle Obama is conducting a campaign of unity and hope, or one of bitterness and anger.
Please note that due to technical issues, there is a thirty second commercial at the front of the audio.
042808Michelle Obama audio cuts
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The latter talks endlessly, makes little sense but provokes only laughter from me. Rev. Wright makes me want to puke! And poor Michelle Obama, poor, poor Michelle Obama. She needs your pity. |
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No matter how hard the political parties try to sell the concept, all it is doing is frustrating voters because we DO have differences and the two-party system is the mechanism we have relied on to work them out. To pretend that all our leaders have to do is join hands and conspire to silence anyone who disagrees by deeming them to be "divisive" and not entitled to the discussion is foolish. All it is doing is securing the lid on the pressure cooker. If we don't want shooting on the streets, we need to be able to talk through our differences. We need to recognize that differences exist and invite everyone to the negotiation table. Conservatives included. This is going to be a great year for conservatives, not so good for everyone else. |
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I hope this personnal campaign of your's proclaiming the congregation of Rev Wright as radical and not of the main stream blows up big time in your face. It's thinly veiled rascism and bigotry.
He's a good man who served in our miltary and has done a heck of a lot for the black commuuity in his area. A community that you are all too ready to judge based on sound bites with almost no true understanding of it.
This is just one more example of religious right snobbery and I find it disgusting.
You, Mr Hannity, Mr. O'Reily may find yourself on the front of a major uprising coming from the black community because of your blatent disrespect towards them.
I'll take Rev Wrights form of Christianity over the self-rightous, intolerant and pious form held by the far right of this country.
SHAME ON YOU!
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Don't get your hopes up, oh hysterical one. Hugh is bullet-proof. No map painted red. No asian bird flu epidemic. No mormon in the white house. No problem.
p.s. You're siding with a manipulative demagogue who uses inflammatory racial stereotypes to enrich himself. You're being conned.
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The Paleocons and Libertarian side of the GOP is gone!........Gone, months ago.....Nothing left but Neocons.(With a president sitting on a lower approval rating than Nixon had during Watergate!)
1. Do you think conservatives have forgotten the Bush/Kennedy/McAmnesty push for amnesty?
2. Do you think that the citizens that supported Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter, and Tom Tancredo will ever vote for McAmnesty?
3. Do you think that true conservatives watching FOX promote a cross-dressing, sanctuary city, pro-abortionist like Guiliani are still Republicans?
You have to be a citizen of NYNY not to realize that the the true conservatives left the ship when Juan Fernandez was openly on the campaign trail with nutjob "Bomb-Bomb-Bomb-Iran McAmnesty! Neocons face the Dems alone!.......It's exciting to see the Constitution Party experience such a huge growth stage, knowing that conservative princiles will not be abandoned.(The Dems will win, and many conservatives will NEVER come back!) |
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... the single most important GOP group, the Theocons. They're alive and well and supporting McCain.
McCain doesn't need Paleos and Libertarians. They need him.
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Wright is saying that "THE black church" is being attacked, not what his words. What exactly is THE black church? As opposed to THE white church? That he has such a large congregation is disturbing and not to be taken as validating his views. The KKK had a very large following at one time too. Wright is just grasping for power and, like Shoeless John, there is no one he won't throw under the bus to accomplish that... even ruin the prospects of having a black president for at least a generation. This is not a man who cares about "his people" but only himself. I can't imagine any black candidate will bet a fair shake at being president if Obama's legacy ends by being lynched by his own "friends". |
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You know what they were saying in Illinois about Barack, when he was running for Senate?
"He was too young. Can you believe they were saying that. Seriously. HE WAS TOO YOUNG. We all know what 'code talk' that is from the nay sayers of Barack. Yep, we all know.....'He is too black'....yeah, that's what they were really sayin'"
Do you know what else they were sayin' about Barack?
"They were sayin' he was too 'inexperienced'".
"Yep, that's code for, he's not black enough".
"They were sayin' he should wait his turn---who does he think he is?". "That's code for, 'get to the back of the bus, you're only a black man'".
They were sayin', 'there's no way he'll raise the money for this campaign'". You know what that is code for? That's code for, "He has a mother who is, "A TYPICAL WHITE PERSON" Yeah, you know what they were sayin' 'bout my husband?
They raised the bar. They rasied the FEAR. He's too black. He's not black enough. They actually had the audacity to say he had a "spiritual advisor" who said, "G*D DAMN AMERICA".
THEY SAID THAT. Then they said about this very good, good, very close, close, friend of Barack's said, America wanted to kill all blacks by inventing the AIDS virus.
Seriously, they said that. And, they meant it. They really and truly meant that.
Can you believe that, people?
I mean, this is a very, very, very scary place for us all to be in. They may come to you next----sayin' these very same things about you, or, your husband. |
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...We're taking this party over to Bill Ayers place.
Drinks are on the house.
Open bar.
It's all 'code talk'.
This aint no "Ebonics" neither.
This is, get-down-in-the-gutter, Chicago-style, ugly politics.
Uh oh, they're "Moving The Bar" again.
C'mon people, we're all goin' over to Tony Rezko's place. Only "call" liquor is being served. None of that cheap stuff.
Try to keep up with me now,
"You know what they been sayin' 'bout my husband?"
They've been sayin' that......Hey......HO...whaddya know....they be "Movin' The Bar" again......stay close now.....we be movin' over to Jermiah's new 10,000 sq. ft.
Homey pad.
Big Bar.
Movin' bar.
You know what they be sayin' 'bout my husband?
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Mrs. Obama is going to make a terrific First Lady! Every time I see and hear her, I like her more and more! |
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If that bar is moving so much that she can't grab it, meybe she needs to lay of the sauce. Or the crack. Or whatever.
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Because you used quotation marks, I spent 10:04 of my life (plus a few seconds of an ad by nutjob Grover Norquist) listening to the entire series of clips Hugh posted to see if you were quoting her accurately. I heard nothing remotely close to your "quotes".
Can you please point me to the source of the "quotes"? Or were you simply lying about them?
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After the "first time I've been proud" debacle, Michelle's minders were supposed to keep her under wraps and away from the microphones.
Whoops.
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But he is going to need help from like-minded friends in the black community. He was criticized early on by his fellow blacks as not being black enough, that he is not descended from slaves, that he is only half-black. Now he is being stabbed in the back by the latest race-monger wannabe who he is exploiting his newfound fame as a springboard to join Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton as the "go to" guy for the white liberal elites to use in keeping blacks down. There is a way out of this for Obama but he will need help. It would not be good for this country for his candidacy to end because the most extreme racists of his race take him out and blame white racism for his failure. There are commentors on this string who have already jumped to the white racism blame. We COULD be getting past that but those these people should look in the mirror before accusing others of white racism. |
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Keep it coming Michelle. What a negative, horrendous, sourpuss! Could you imagine her Grinch Who Stole X-mas face greeting other dignataries & their spouses? She's already let the world know that she thinks that America is a "mean country".
The more Michelle & Barack's friend, crazy uncle, & or spiritual mentor "The Bigoted RevWright" speak the more we get to know the REAL BARACK OBAMA!
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she is not or at least should not, be including herself in the "WE" to which she's talking about. |
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her student loans?!! She and BO even before the books were making well into six figures. |
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Have you been reading these threads? Your fellow righties couldn't give a darn about the country or the future of race relations. They just want to win- even to the extent of calling for race riots at the Democratic convention.
Personally, I agree with you. I want Obama to do now what his loyalty wouldn't let him do earlier- tell Wright where to get off. And I want other Black leaders to do the same. Maybe a joint press conferene with Bill Cosby and Oprah, directed at African-Americans, not whites. It might kill Obama's 2008 candidacy, but in the long run he'd win by losing. |
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et al are threatened by the possibility of a BO-black presidency. The original colour-blind campaign that BO was running would if it had been successful and carried out in a colour-blind presidency would disenfranchise the two Black church leaders. No one would be buying what they are selling. |
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What a downer....Missy Michelle lecturing us everyday all day. Intolerable. Insufferable self-righteousness. Ah, the arrogance (and ignorance) of youth.
It makes the charitably mute Cindy McCain feel like a breath of fresh air.
Michelle even makes BClinton look good as First Spouse. At least he's entertaining. |
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She understands all your bitterness,
your past disempowerment,
your economic impotence
anger and frustration
depression
It will make you good
collectively
have your butts kicked
real good for a start.
Ethic-reform legislation.
Vote
O B A A MMMAAAA
Change, the spirit of bitterness
A METHAPHORICAL truth! |
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Yup. The last thing the race industry sucklings want is for the country to become color-blind. No chance of that now with Wright and Michelle eclipsing Barack.
The sad truth is if Barack were any blacker or any whiter, he wouldn't be where he is. |
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I do not want this election decided over Jeremiah Wright. Jeremiah Wright is a real heel for doing this to Obama. What a prima donna *******.
Now this is a chance to see if Obama has any common sense and can kick Wright to the curb. If this was Hillary I would assume this was an orcheastrated manuver to avoid an October surprise. But the timing just before Indiana and North Carolina is bad too. Obama needs to be smart and distance himself quickly from his mentor, pastor and spirtual dad.
I would just assume have McCain and Obama debate the issues, if only to show you there is a substantive difference between them on policy. |
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Two weeks ago I asked you a germane question about your rant regarding "racism" on these threads. NO RESPONSE.
That was the very thread you declared you were "taking a break" from this place.
I asked you again my questions. Specifically, when were you going to chime in on Barack's racist commetns about his mather being, "A typical white person".
No comments.
Saw you on another thread today. I asked you again for your response to Barack's "racist" comment, since you have been so keen on this issue here.
No response.
Now you waltz in asking moi to respond to you?
Yeah, seems to me, pretty typical Liberal game-playing.
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Nice to see you are putting in time for researching this stuff.
10:04.
How are you going to "bill" for that?
Round up to the nearest 100 hours?
Thanks for all the detail accounting in troubling yourself. Man, the sacrifices you make are legion. |
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Can I join in?
I see some serious heel kicking, celebration, high fiving, and downright glee at Obama's demise and Reverend Wright's perceived wickedness.
Nothing like a Good Ole Christian hoe down! His wife too! Woo hooo!
Nothing like basking in the warm glow of a good round of personal destruction.
I ought to know, I'm a more or less atheist. You all have throughly trashed Wright, Obama and his Wife and hey, maybe some of that will even rub off on Oprah just for good measure, eh? Oprah's been untouchable long enough. Let's do the calculus: Wright = Obama = Oprah. Oh yeah. Who would've thought at the begining of all this we'd get to destroy Oprah? I mean hey, she's from Chicago. Not like she can claim innocence here.
Nothing like trying people in the court of public opinion eh? Gives ya all kinda of warm fuzzies: a license to hurl insults, invectives, be nasty and all the while feeling self-righteous at the same time!
Wooo hoooo! Actually, to be honest I'm kinda jealous. You all are out doing me here on the enjoying being nasty here.
Oh well. |
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I'm getting a headache from all this stuff. Can't we all just get along? |
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Welcome, looks like ya just did join in! |
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muirgeo writes:
"It's thinly veiled rascism and bigotry."
Hey Muirgeo:
If you're not mature enough deal with an African American candidate running for President; unable to tolerate the rough and tumble of the American presidential political cycle, then it's time to leave the debate and allow the adults to battle it out.
Honestly, this bogus charge of racism is an insult to every minority who desires to enter the hornets nest that is US Presidential politics. |
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is another youngster obviously witnessing his or her first US presidential campaign. |
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Nope. The is an election, deal with it or go look for a pair of testicles. |
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Ok, so, I got a question. Does the MSM get any credit on this.
I mean, after all, it was NPR and Wright's speech on the National Press Club that did most of the exposing.
You all claim the media is liberal bias.
Will you all tone it down just a wee bit acknowledging that the MSM is running with this? I mean, after all, if it were only Rush Limbaugh, well, like totally ignored.
If you all are not going to give the MSM credit for any of this, that seems kinda disingenuous at best, eh?
Seems to me after this you can't just say the MSM is liberal biased, you have to say the MSM is liberal biased expecting that fine job they did giving lots of air-time to Jeremiah Wright.
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Marystella,
your poetry is really twisted. Then again, you ain't a voter, are you. So roll your dice and have your fun, better be gone when the devil come... |
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We've been taking lessons from you.
However, call me curious but, what part of this, Love Fest we're having here are you interpreting as, "Christian" based?
You know, that part where you say,
"Nothing like a Good Ole Christian hoe down!"
I look forward to your response on that one. |
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So the fact that this clown has a sign around his neck saying "LOOK AT ME, I'M GOING TO MAKE A SPEECH THAT WILL SCREW OVER THE LEADING PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE!!!" and the fact the media covers it suggests they don't have a bias?
Dude, this would be the equivalent of ignoring an elephant in your living room taking a dump on the coffee table.
Could you come up with a better example? |
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Answer to your question ("Does the MSM get any credit on this.")
C'mon, get real already. You know as well as any other secularist, Hillary did most of the "exposing" (as you say) on Obama's personal foibles, background, and the like.
She came up with nearly every "exposed" (as you say) tidbit on Barack. The media---only now, is catching up.
Where've you been, lightweight?
I mean, you claim to be hip and all that, with your snarky and snide and glib commnetary. 'Cept you forgot that Hillary's hands were all over this "exposed" (as you say) information.
Say it 'aint so?
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On the other hand, "dantana" has a much better grasp on articulating the answer to your question than me?
Any more questions? |
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"You know, that part where you say,
"Nothing like a Good Ole Christian hoe down!""
Oops, my bad. I thought this was the religious right party.
Can you all point me to where the Christians hang out?
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"Could you come up with a better example?" of msm bias.
no, he cannot.
nationally, except for fox, the "lots of air-time to Jeremiah Wright" he mentions has been covering fire for the bullfrog.
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See? We can agree on something once in a while. Not that I back Obama but I think for him to go out this way is a major American opportunity wasted. Even if he turned out to be a very liberal president and got booted in 2012, we would at least have demonstrated that America is the most open society on earth and that maybe the black culture has grown up a bit and can sweep everyone up on a positive note. For Obama to now knuckle under would make it impossible for whites and blacks alike to consider a black candidate for high office for at least a generation. It would be impossible for any thoughtful white person to ignore the ugly reality of the sinister and backwards forces of hate that drive such a black culture. I was watching Wright's performance at the National Press Club and couldn't help but notice the ubiquitous gang-like goons with the sunglasses hanging around everywhere. Not exactly the Pope. This guy is going to eclipse Obama? Even if Obama loses the election, it is absolutely essential that he do something. Unlike many people here, I have made it very clear that I am not afraid of an Obama presidency. He is NOT the reason we should vote for McCain. He needs to do something to reassure people like me that we are not naive. |
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Where've you been man...? It's time for the hoe down....!! |
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"Can you all point me to where the Christians hang out?"
we're here. we just don't wear it on our sleeve at a political site like you do your atheism.
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Ok thanks.
I was worried there for a second that my joy over the Christians destroying Christians was happening in the wrong forum.
It's always good news for us Atheists when you Christians trash each other's preachers and politicians who associate with preachers.
That's awesome. You know Louis Farrakan was at Jeremiah Wright's luncheon today. I bet he's smiling all the way from ear to ear.
In fact, I'm surprised he's not here personally thanking you all for his newfound fortunes.
But, hey, I'll have enough fun for the both of us.
You know, there's this black preacher in Glide Memorial Church in San Francisco? Actually, this really sweet, he's a priest. Yeah, unh hunh, he's CATHOLIC.
And some of the stuff he says? Whoa, can't wait till that makes it on the national news.
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Now I get it. It would appear that you have it in for "Christians".
You're out looking for them. Gotcha.
First you come in here with a rabble-rouser posture as you snidely toss around your self-righteous narrative to a group you think as self-righteous.
Now that it seems not to be the case, you'll be on your way to get to the correct group to chastise.
Hey, we're glad you showed up, anyway, to reveal your true colors.
Why don't we all just agree to say nothing about this little mistake you made. That way, when you find teh real "Christians", you'll be no worse for teh wear; you can come off squeaky clean in castigating them.
'Kay?
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Michelle Obama strikes me as a very successful black person who accomplished so much in this so-called racist culture and is now complaining that she had a great financial cost to pay for her schooling and success that prevented her from living her real dreams. Boo-hoo. What a bunch of losers. Poor Barack and her struggling to pay back loans they agreed to so as to go to the most prestigious -- and costly -- schools and then unjustly having to pay back these loans. Could you get more ungrateful and petty than that. Give me a break! |
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Did you know there are no atheists in hell?
Yeah they all believe when they get THERE. Hot punishing fire forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever.Pick up a little book called "20 Minutes in Hell" read it and then mock and laugh and sweat and think. |
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Don't forget St. Paul admonished us to have compassion for the feebleminded. |
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Dives straight into the slime pit. Like any other bigoted intellectual coward, he is pretending that being offended by his wackjob racist conspiratorial pap is really somehow racism against all African Americans.
How pathetic. |
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grab that gynochimp Kimbertwit and have your way with her....she's untouchable to normal men.
Whine, cry, p!ss, moan....your easter bunny is melting under the sunlight of discourse, the heat of honest scrutiny. Bye Bye babakazama....
On, to Denver!
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but what about the "bar"?
"They" moved the 'bar', man.
"They" up and moved 'bar' on the Obama's.
All this 'bar' movin' stuff. ('taint fair)
You know, the same bar which was moved (read: lowered, you know, affirmative action, wink, wink ) so Michelle could get into that Ivy institution. And, that Harvard law stint that Barack did---that 'bar' was lowered too. BUT----now "they" go and move it around on the Obama's just when they got all comfy-cozy in their pre-determined perceptions of where the 'bar' "should be". You know, "should be" (wink, wink). All this 'bar' moving stuff is about 'nuff to get a guy to drinkin'.
Where is that 'bar', again? |
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You may have been there when St. Paul spoke. I was not there.
He has yet to invite me to one of his "admonishments". Until then, I will sit over here and twiddle my thumbs in wait.
Thanks for the head's up. |
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Let's see,
20 Minutes in Hell
20 Minutes with you in Heaven.
20 Minutes in Hell
20 Minutes with Jerry Falwell in Heaven.
20 Minutes in Hell
20 Minutes with Christians who I can't abide for five minutes on this green Earth
20 Minutes in Hell.
Yup, I'm for Hell.
I mean come on, what's torture if not spending eternity with the likes of you all?
My God, I just pee'd my pants.
Ok, back to having fun.
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Dear Michelle, Princess perpetual pity party
We are NOT STUPID!
1. NO normal, intelligent person spends 100,000 on a Specialist IVY LEAGUE DEGREE to become a TEACHER, NURSE, VOLUNTEER, PREACHER etc.
2. Frankly my DEAR: LIfE and all aspects of it, for EVERYONE, is a perpetual MOVING BAR:
your suggestion that SOMEONE other than the game and rules of the game move the bar, verifies that YOU NEED A REFUND on your IVY LEAGUE EDUCATION>
YOU WERE “HAD”.
3. CHOICES< CHOICES< CHOICES< CHOICES, PSSST my DEAR, this is a FREE country, everyone makes FREE CHOICES about the pursuit of the hopes and dreams, life styles, occupatons, etc. everyone and everything in life is “CHANCE” baised "CHOICE" win, lose, or draw.
MY DEAR, because you are PRINCESS PERPETUAL PITY PARTY does not
Qualify you to expect that your Husband is OWED ACCESS TO THE OVAL OFFICE.
Frankly, he is immature, unqualified, inexperienced, incompetent and dangerous.
May we suggest that you and your husband, who hate America, blame whites for every one of your challenges in life need to find a country more compatible to your expectations, demands and needs?
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"
First you come in here with a rabble-rouser posture as you snidely toss around your self-righteous narrative to a group you think as self-righteous."
Oh wait, you're not?
I look forward to your response on that one.
Show me the humility baby.
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oh giggle
oh giggle
SOMEONE KEEPS MOVING THE BAR ??? from whom
and "WHO" is "MOVING that bar ????
LIFE itself at all stages, and for all ages is
a MOVING BAR.
YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE AN IDIOT to waste $100,000 on an IVY LEAGUE EDUCATION to follow your dream of being a TEACHER< NURSE< PREACHER
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OMG
Poor pathetic perpetual pity party princess,
Michelle, expects the USA government to deliver paradise for every parasite, no matter how many times they make bad "CHOICES" !
She needs to trade in her IVY LEAGUE EDUCATION
for a brain transplant:
HINT:::: life iteself is a perpetual moving bar for EVERYONE; |
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Well now, that would seem to make your third, "my bad", experience here tonight. Stick around, you're really racking 'em up......Yeeeehaw.
I think we'll remember your appearance tonight for what it was. Let's see, how did you put that:
"Oops, my bad. I thought this was the religious right party.
Can you all point me to where the Christians hang out?"
we got it loud and clear where it is you derive your jollies.
>;D
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took a while, but I FINALLY GET it, I finally hear what PERPETUAL PITY PARTY PRINCESS MEANS:
what is she is really saying is that every high school drop out should be allowed to be an open heart surgeon without being able to read or write:
She needs to get a refund on her IVY LEAGUE EDUCATION.
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Reverand Wright hijacks "Black Churches" to use as a shield for his own hostile, racist comments and really expects the real press..the unmanipulated radio and blogosphere to buy it?? I've listened almost ad naseum to his diatribes for weeks..and the commentary..and I haven't heard ONE attack or criticism of "Black Churches.." Every word has been directed at the pretentious and condescending Rev Wright.
It's no surprise he's indignant and angry...he now has to deal with people who don't lap up his hyperbole but actually demand he explain himself..it must be very difficult for someone like him who comes from such a position of racial entitlement to have to deal with critical commentary.
By the way..anyone who doesn't think this affects Obama significantly has been asleep for the last 40 years...the broad independent middle elects EVERY President..and they will not vote for anyone who associates with the likes of the Reverand. |
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had to shoot their "accusations of "racism" wad about 4 months too early.
Sometime the best laid plans are lost in a premature ejaculation. |
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I think of the scripture from Proverbs (14:8)
"To the man of discretion, wisdom means a watch on his own conduct,
but the folly of fools is delusion."
Time will tell if all your chortling over Barack is delusional. Fools get fooled, as they say, and Republicans these days have no sense of perspective--they get caught up in the emotion of the moment. America has become a blowhard country because of the likes of you.. |
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Athiest P,
I'm a Christian, I'll debate you. What is your justification for your epistemological conlclusions?
Book |
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...over both the "men" in the race. Michelle's doing her part to help Hill.
In the first interview I saw with Barack and Michelle (I believe it was 60 Minutes), Michelle, when asked if she worried about Barack's safety as a candidate, said: Barack's a black man. He could get shot going to the gas station.
At the time, I thought: This woman's a loon and will not be helpful in the campaign. |
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I voted for Reagan twice
Bush the father
Bush the Son, twice
and
McCain will be next
Where did you get the idea
I cannot vote?
I always vote pro-life,
Pro-American.
Speaking of Devil!
The Devil's Delusion:
Atheism and Its Scientific Pretensions,
by David Berlinski, great book.
(This new religion - based on atheism and materialism - is actually better termed "scientism", since its religious claims far overreach its scientific content.
Great read. |
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I've been thinking this for 2-3 months...
No, it's not voodoo....the Obamas use embedded commands in their speeches. Barack is better at it because he mixes the negative and the positive. Michelle doesn't mix hers enough and it at the very least comes off as negative victimism.
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The "New Yorker" of all publications said this:
Obama begins with a broad assessment of life in America in 2008, and life is not good: we’re a divided country, we’re a country that is “just downright mean,” we are “guided by fear,” we’re a nation of cynics, sloths, and complacents. “We have become a nation of struggling folks who are barely making it every day,” she said, as heads bobbed in the pews. “Folks are just jammed up, and it’s gotten worse over my lifetime. And, doggone it, I’m young. Forty-four!”
From these bleak generalities, Obama moves into specific complaints. Used to be, she will say, that you could count on a decent education in the neighborhood. But now there are all these charter schools and magnet schools that you have to “finagle” to get into. (Obama herself attended a magnet school, but never mind.) Health care is out of reach (“Let me tell you, don’t get sick in America”), pensions are disappearing, college is too expensive, and even if you can figure out a way to go to college you won’t be able to recoup the cost of the degree in many of the professions for which you needed it in the first place. “You’re looking at a young couple that’s just a few years out of debt,” Obama said. “See, because, we went to those good schools, and we didn’t have trust funds. I’m still waiting for Barack’s trust fund. Especially after I heard that Dick Cheney was s’posed to be a relative or something. Give us something here!”
First Ladies have traditionally gravitated toward happy topics like roadside flower beds, so it comes as a surprise that Obama’s speech is such an unrelenting downer. |
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Yours is a genuine offer, however, you've misread this troll. He wants nothing from you other than to chastise and deride you. That's it.
For the other Loser Liberals, here to quote scripture, and the like, in attempt to create (guilt) the image of lifting a mirror to the faces of those not buying into this Liberal Racism we see playing out in front of us.
These Loser Liberals are pathetic indeed. They suffer from gargantuan doses of denial.
Bill Moyers and his softball questions of Jeremiah Wright. How quaint. How pacific, the whole affair.
1.) Not a single question about how the US government invented AIDS.
2.) Not a single question about how the US government distributed, nationwide, drugs into black communities in attempt to incarcerate as many black men as possible.
3.) No query into the flags of Al Qaeda and USA being of the same color, the same representation.
Soledad OBrien and her very twisted Liberal logic in explaining away the claims that Jeremiah makes; "Any questions of me and my positions, including on the relationship with Obama, is an attack on Black Churches." Yep, Soledad ate it up wholesale. Even expounded upon Jeremiah's argument for him.
Attack on Black Churches, hence, attack on black churchgoers, hence "RACISM".
Wow.
Liberal racism is alive and well. Prolific in these past 6 weeks or so as the country becomes more and more aware of the information HILLARY CLINTON brought forward.
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...Bill Moyers exchange was his playing Jeremiah Wright's sermons in longer versions. This made it clearer that Jeremiah was not taken "out-of-context" as he professes.
A laughable contention those who make it.
The more we're exposed to longer versions of his "sermons" the more we become aware these hateful themes run throughout, like veins through marble. |
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"It's not an attack on Barack Obama, it's an attack on the black churches."
Jeremiah Wright, April 28th 2008
yep, it's just old fashioned racism, according to the reverend-guy.
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"....And let me offer lesson number one about America: All great change in America begins at the dinner table. So, tomorrow night in the kitchen I hope the talking begins. And children, if your parents haven't been teaching you what it means to be an American, let 'em know and nail 'em on it. That would be a very American thing to do.
And that's about all I have to say tonight, except for one thing. The past few days when I've been at that window upstairs, I've thought a bit of the "shining city upon a hill." The phrase comes from John Winthrop, who wrote it to describe the America he imagined. What he imagined was important because he was an early Pilgrim, an early freedom man. He journeyed here on what today we'd call a little wooden boat; and like the other Pilgrims, he was looking for a home that would be free. I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.
And how stands the city on this winter night? More prosperous, more secure, and happier than it was 8 years ago. But more than that: After 200 years, two centuries, she still stands strong and true on the granite ridge, and her glow has held steady no matter what storm. And she's still a beacon, still a magnet for all who must have freedom, for all the pilgrims from all the lost places who are hurtling through the darkness, toward home." |
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They are called "The Fruit of Islam." |
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Her husband won't be president. Why? Their religion of 'equal but seperate' does not fly with americans. This ungrateful woman who has nothing nice to say about this country should be sent back to inner city chicago where the Rezko's can continue lining her pockets. She is a poor representation of women in this country. Hey Michelle - your choices are your responsibility - including going to Ivy League Schools when you couldn't afford it. Many people who did not get scholarships said No to Princeton and Harvard because they did not want to live in debt - stop whining! Paying that debt is not an achievement. Americans pay debt everyday for medical reasons - so what is your crisis? Finally, The bar for the presidency has been set for all candidates - not having crazy religious beliefs and for goodness sake, having national level experience. What exactly did Barak do in the IL Senate - vote 100 times as present. This is not leadership, it is avoidance. Who are 'they', somebody should ask Michelle. Are 'they' white people who want to keep blacks down, you know, the same folks who invented AIDS to kill blacks? OBAMA'S ARE A JOKE! |
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on his best performance, you know, reading other peoples speeches to improve his ideas and eloquence? He is still completely UNQUALIFIED to be POTUS. McCain, on his worst day, you know, like asking for gas breaks - he is still the most qualified candidate to be commander in chief. I wonder who americans will pick? Let's not get into Michelle's victim status - nobody wants a victim for First Lady so i suggest Michelle find her happy voice and some reasons to be proud of america before her and Barak are humiliated in November. |
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for Wright to show his 'good side' as you called it and his 'good flock' should speak up for the sake of their future. FYI - please give us evidence that the govt. invented AIDS to kill blacks - you know - as Obama's uncle Wright has stated and re-stated in his new tour to set the record straight. This man is a poor excuse for a pastor. Also, if 'whitey' is so bent on keeping Wright and other blacks down, how did he afford a 1.6M dollar home? Maybe the social welfare checks received by his congregation should go to educating them about the problems of making 70% of their babies out of wed lock. Also, please ask Wright why he lives in a gated community - after all, isn't it 'whitey' who likes to exclude others? Wright is supposed to live in a home that welcomes 'blacks and non-caucasians' who feel down trodden by this 'white dominated' society that keeps moving the bar for Michelle and Barak. What a bunch of lying professionals who take advantage of the ignorant blacks. |
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Thanks for showing me that a rational exchange between people on different sides is actually possible at Townhall. I had come to reject the idea completely.
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Jimbo? Why do you care about the economy? All you do is sit at home and collect your government cheese. For the rest of us 97% who are making our mortgage payments everything is just fine. A little slow down after a red hot economy is expected by everyone except liberal bedwetters. |
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Wright is someone who can disqualify Obama for POTUS. Unfortunately for you and others who are beginning to 'see' Wright as he truly is - Obama considers him to be like gramma. This raises the question - how does a person elevate a non-relative to the status of a relative? Only if the non-relative and the person hold similar views strongly enough to develop a kinship. Wright in words explained that Obama's effort to distance himself was for political expediency - basically asking americans not to believe it. Even you must know that the jury is no longer out, the verdict is out and it has cost Obama the presidency this year. Oprah will find it difficult to remind her 'typical white people' audience about Obama's judgement after she put her credibility on the line for him. Obama's closet is full of skeletons that make the Clinton's appear to be boyscouts. |
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Based on your hatred for McCain, I never thought I'd hear you backing an Obama revival. It's good to know underneath that anger and hatred toward McCain, there is a place for beloved Obama and his very conservative policies that make you proud to be an american. While you are at it, why don't you ask Carter to join in with the other leaders in the conference call to revive Obama? That would really be a gesture of compassion from a 'true' conservative like yourself who finds McCain to be a liberal. You are amazing, Jesus himself would be proud of your compassion. Now can you show some compassion for illegal immigrants who have suffered a lot more than Obama and his uncle/mentor/pastor who spews hate for america? |
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Only in front of a whiney Democrat "victocrat" audience could someone (Michelle Obama) with an Ivy League graduate education complain that the bar has been raised for her, just as she was about to jump over it.
This is the same woman who received a mysterious windfall when she and her husband were looking to purchase their house; some guy named Rezko coincidentally shows up with bags full of money to "help them out."
If anything, the bar has been moved to their advantage.
And her husband Barack lucked out like no first time Senate candidate in the past 100 years when his chief Democratic rival in the Primary had to back out due to a scandal.
Then, his chief GOP rival for the general election, Jack Ryan, had to back out due to a scandal.
Obama became the Democratic nominee for Senate by default, and didn't even have a GOP opponent in the general election until carpetbagger Alan Keyes became an Illinois resident a couple months prior to the election.
And to top it all off, the Obamas fraternize with unrepentant terrorists who planted bombs at American targets.
If any other candidate running for President, kicked off one of his campaigns at the home of an unrepentant terrorist, that candidate would be finished.
As Yakov Smirnoff would say, "Is this a great country, or what !?" |
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wright cant be controlled or contained. Did you see the look on Obama's face? His 'uncle' just threw him under the bus in the name of 'serving the Lord'. It's a good thing he clarified that 'his God' is not the God others serve. I was somewhat concerned that Wright was required to preach and show love.....especially to Obama who defended him when his statements were indefensible. Notice Ms. Oprah has remained silent and has not been on the trail campaigning for Obama since Wright appeared and Obama said 'typical white people'. Obama had many people fooled. What I am wondering is how Ms. Oprah did not do any background checks of Obama's religion - given her audience - her endorsement has cost her audience and it will continue to do so. |
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Your "question" about Obama was rhetorical, not real. You know darn well what he meant. And for you to pretend it is "racist" to make a factual observation about how older generations viewed people of other races with suspicion- is beyond ridiculous.
Here's the entire quote:
"The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, she doesn't. But, that she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know,there's a reaction that's been bred into our experiences that do[es]n't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way; and that's just the nature of race in our society, and we have to break through it. And what makes me optimistic is you see each [new ]generation feeling a little bit less like that."
That's not racist. It's true. And hopeful. To pretend otherwise is to pretend things aren't as they actually are. In which case honest dialogue about race is impossible.
Ah, but you think that there IS no problem. "I never owned slaves or voted for jim crow laws and I'm tired of being guilt-tripped" That's your narcissistic argument- it's all about clarityseeker, not society as a whole. It's not even about racists at this website on your side of the table. But the lefties are responsible for every bit of political rhatoric you take issue with.
And so we come full circle, back to you "quoting" Michele Obama as making all kinds of blatantly racial remarks when in truth she said no such thing. I see now you were attempting to be humorous. As to why you are projecting your feelings of racialization onto Mrs. Obama, I have no comment. |
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Don't put words in my mouth. Wright does not "disqualify" Obama in the least. That is a guilt-by-association absurdity created by the right. Obama and Wright are completely different people with completely different world views. I just think Obama needs to make that clear, both to the white and black communities.
To say that I categorically reject your attempt to morph Wright into Obama is understating things greatly.
And btw I still strongly support Obama and think he will make a greast President. Don't count your chickens yet. on second thought, Republican smugness is a good thing. |
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Yes, it's a good thing. It only puts an exclamation point on the gathering consensus that Republicans are loud-mouthed fools. |
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What do Barack Hussein Obama and Osama bin Laden have in common?
They both have friends who bombed the Pentagon. |
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"Friends"? You play awfully fast and loose with the facts, pal. Here's a true question:
What do the Republicans and Al Qaeda have in common? They depend upon each other for their political survivial. |
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Obama said he was "friends" with Bill Ayers who bombed the Pentagon and I'm assuming you would agree that the 9-11 terrorists were friends of bin Laden? I'm sorry if the facts are inconvenient to your narcissistic world view. |
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Not to mention, as noted in the other thread, that a lot of these people actually agree with Hagee that God sent Katrina to New Orleans as retibution for a gay pride parade. I sure wish they'd run on that platform, since they so obviously believe it! |
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Agree with your analysis of MO, but I can say it in fewer words: This lady is full of excrement!
Just as Teresa Heinz could never have been accepted by the American public as a First Lady, neither can the spoiled Michelle Obama.
You can tell a lot about a man by the woman he asks to be his wife. BO is a failure with a capital F. |
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Ron Paul ran the proponents of McCainism out of town in Nevada, and our strength in Montana is DOUBLE that what it was in Nevada.
Go Ron Paul! McCain is out of touch with America! |
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We've got a Paulbot. Is he still running? Do any of the Ronulans have jobs? Pesky bunch of whack jobs aren't they? |
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known as Neuro-Linguistic Programing.
Some have called it junk science, but the intelligence services of many countries use it, and train HUMINT Operators in NLP for investigations as well as Spook Ops.
Having been indoctrinated in NLP, I will state that while BHO and MO exhibit some of the trained tendencies, I have not hearn nor seen enough. In fact, in his contretemps with the wife of the first black president, I have observed the very opposite of NLP doctrine.
Worth discussing, but hardly worth clueing in the disloyal opposition. |
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The Bloviator at 3:58am is, as you've undoubdtedly noticed, is...welll...a loonie tune.
Can't you see Osama & Zawahiri touching base in that dandy cave wher the Prez chased 'um, plotting on how to keep the Evil "Reeps" in office SO THEY CAN SURVIVE AND PROSPER? Ya know, the folks killing them. Having announced--many times--that he plans to Retreat in Defeat ASAP if he wins in November, they shudder in fear of Obama.
Blovie Boy's been scarfing hemp in the late hors again. |
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The notion of "guilt by association" is neither automatically valid or invalid; it depends on the type and nature of the association.
If the association is merely accidental or incidental, and does not in any way provide a measure of support or sanction for the other party, then one bears no responsiblity for the other party's views or actions.
Obama's association with Wright, however, is clearly NOT merely accidental or incidental. His choice to join, attend and monetarily support Wright's church means that he has (to at least some extent) helped to EMPOWER Wright to spread his noxious, racist lunacy. And since we NOW know beyond doubt that Obama WAS fully aware of Wright's views, THAT indeed makes Obama "guilty by association".
Furthermore, having been caught helping empower this lunatic, Obama has compounded his guilt by condemning the statements, but refusing to condemn the man. This is a declaration that Wright's views may be wrong but are nonetheless TOLERABLE and do not warrant any moral condemnation.
Nothing justifies supporting and tolerating the spread of racial hatred, hysteria and paranoia. Obama IS guilty, and he's doomed unless he admits it, apologizes, and breaks off from Wright completely. And even then, he has to hope the American people will not wonder about the 20 years when he failed to do so. |
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"McCain is out of touch with America!"
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insinuating McCain had an affair? Where do these far left wing fanatical kooks come up with this stuff? Do they just make crap up when they feel like it?
I have it on good authority that Kimberly likes 3 year old girls, that's pretty sick Kimberly! |
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The real narcissistic conceit here is your notion that there is some kind of moral equivalence between your domestic political opponents and our nation's terrorist enemies.
There is a difference between a friendly acquaintance (Obama) and a committed subordinate (Osama). In one case, an incidental relationship; in the other, profound moral responsibility. I mean, I understand a joke is a joke, but geez, you don't take 9/11 seriously? Maybe to the extent it can be exploited for political purposes. That's the problem with you guys and it is why you are going down. |
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"...an incidental relationship"? Please.
BO dedicated his book to him. |
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...Liberal racism prolific in excusing a racist comment by a black person. "No problem with me", says the myopic LaugherLawyer.
However, it has been my experience that black people too become anxious, uncomfortable, even frightened when they encounter unknown young blacks in their own neighborhoods. It is not a reserved behavior, this "reaction" which LaugherLawyer sets aside as exclusive to the "white" experience.
Liberal racism is alive and thriving in this comment about Obama's white mother:
"...But, that she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know,there's a reaction that's been bred into our experiences that do[es]n't go away...".
LaugherLawyer and his ilk would have everyone settle upon this as a distinctive white reaction---Hahahaha.
And, then for Liberals to be caught up in the conundrum of "labeling" Geraldine Ferraro's comments. More inconsistencies.
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... equate accusations with facts, when the accusations are made against Republicans or conservatives.
So, for instance, once the New York Times runs a story in which an "unnamed source" claims to have heard another "unnamed source" say that McCain had a "close relationship" with a female lobbyist -- the whole unsubstantiated mess is treated as an established fact that: a) McCain is an adulterer; b)McCain is a hypocrite because he has also sponsored legislation that purports to reduce the influence of lobbyists; and c)McCain has flip-floped and reversed himself on a point of honor.
So once that story runs, from that point on, the Kimberly's of the world will regurgitate all three accusations as if they were established truths.
It's just lame, utterly childish, kindergarten-level, playground-style smearing. |
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We are talking about Ayers, not Wright.. |
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Mark my words. If Obama is elected President, Cong. Conyers will push mightily for reparations for all African-Americans. |
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But maybe it would have a reverse effect. Just like every president could invite the Mormon Tab. Choir to sing at their inaguration--expect Pres. Mitt Romney. |
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What is an investigation into the person of Barack Obama, otherwise an UNKNOWN in our country, is construed by Liberals as YOUR position on blacks in totality.
Yep, you critique Obama, you critique blacks. That is how this is being treated by a vast number of Liberals.
The same narrative belongs to Jeremiah Wright.
He said it yesterday.
It is a pathetic construct.
LaborLawyer laughs at me because I take exception to Barack Obama painting his mother's "typical whiteness" as behaviors exclusive to whites----NONSENSE!!
Black adults, living in neighborhoods where young black men are encountered, on streets, at night share anxiety, nervousness, fear, with whites.
NOT FOR LABORLAWYER. NOT FOR BARACK OBMAM. Ony white people, "typical", experience these feelings, senses when encountering young black men on streets at night.
What a load of Liberal racism CRAPOLA. |
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"these people actually believe with Hagee that God sent Katrina to New Orleans as retribution for the gay pride parade", "loud mouth fools", "Al Qaeda and Republicans", "narcissistic", "real narcissistic conceit", comments from liberalville, a sure sign that the Soetoro death spiral is losing altitude quickly, and the awful realization that it's OVER, "hope and change", "we are the one", people passing out at the rallies, it's all just a distant memory, isn't it, what happened, he was the "Messiah", the "uniter", why, why, Camelot, here again, he was so "clean and articulate", we were all at long last, finally going "to just get along", BUT, now, you in liberalville, you, know it's all over don't cha', come on now, tell the truth, even that liberal fog you walk around in, even that can't hide the truth that Obama is DEAD.....Barry will be asked to drop out in June, he will do so and appeal for calm, but will Sharpy go along, doubtful, so it would seem that the miscreant convention will be teargassed, every anarchist within 1500 miles will come, and Sharpy and Wright will be fighting for the megaphone, each vying for leadership, wow, liberals misbehavin', what a sight to behold, indeed, indeed, "loud mouth fools", indeed, indeed, you liberals can turn a phrase, i'll give ya' that.....onward to Denver....remember....BREATHE DEEP... |
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... we pulled ourselves up by our bootstraps story might mean more to America if they weren't Harvard grads and bazillionaires because of his books. How that relates to us common Jesus huggin, gun totin' plain ole Americans just doesn't register with this hick. Lots of people (inc. us) are putting their kids through college, as in the local community college, the local state university without racking up Harvard size debt. Plus we counsel our kids on what type of careers to go for to make those college loans worthwhile. If you're going to get a history degree (which I have a minor in) make sure your day job will pay the bloody bills while you write feverishly into the night the book you hope and pray will overtop Stephen Ambrose. Just don't expect me to subsidize your high falutin' dream to be a community activist with Harvard paper on your wall. I'm working hard to put my own in a position where they can do well for themselves in this land of opportunity without taking handouts from de guv-mint and most definitely not still living in my house when they're 40!!! Being white and with good day jobs, we get no help from de guv-mint at all and still have to fill out those annoying FASFA forms. How many tax dollars are spent on that useless bureaucratic maze?
Michelle still talks as if they are applying for a community activist job with some neighborhood commission with hints at subsidized higher education care of Uncle Sam. It falls flat. Instead of a car in every garage, now it's a Harvard diploma on every wall? Pul-lease. Pure politico BS of the most pandering sort. |
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No one sees Barack as the Messiah. He's a politician who would be good leader in these times for our country. You're the yokels who demonize and deify, not us.. |
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What made you an atheist? Was it your first view of the stars? A newborn baby? The first snowflake of Winter?
Or did someone mistreat or disappoint you?
If the latter, you can find peace the same place others do, and stop being a hypocrite who tries to hold others to rules they don't believe.
If the former, may I recommend a good counselor?
You are rather obviously new at this, so we'll offer this free gift once: http://www.biblegateway.com
May you find the Peace you seek. |
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what you're saying is a lie?
Have you ever watched the crowds react when BH Obama speaks?
Some folks do apparently see him as their "messiah"...
You need to start getting your talking points back in line with the rest of the party... ;-) |
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Barry Soetoro, Rest In Peace, the Death Spiral has all but hit the concrete, Finis. |
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As Marystella, you voted never. |
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Don't you just love all these righty references to the "priveleged" Obama? Yep, being raised as a black child by a white single working-class mother, bouncing around from Hawaii to Indonesia to Los Angeles, earning his way by merit to the top of his law school class only to use his degree on behalf of social justice- it sure is the story of someone born with a silver spoon in his mouth:)
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It truly is amazing what liberal doses of bad faith and self-delusion can lead people to believe. Compared to his detractors, Barack is a man among children. |
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... Barak Hussein Obama is a crisp burnt Racist Kenyan Socialist Radical Mohammaden piece of toast.
T-O-A-S-T
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Always knew you were a Hillary partisan.. go Operation Chaos! (Or, did Rush just put it on hold?) |
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in his mouth. There was never any room for it. You know, all of that government cheese. All of those lowered "bars". All of that affirmative action goin' in his favor. No time for silver spoons.
By the way, have you heard what they're sayin' about Michelle's husband. It is hellacious. And now they are movin' that bar, again. That damned bar. It just keeps shuckin' and jivin' on the Obamas. |
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Oh well, what can you do?! |
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I can't believe how angry she is about having to pay for her own college and law school education! One would think she would be proud of her accomplishments and her ability to pay her own way. This is just another example of the Obamas' extreme socialism. They wanted someone else to foot the bill for their education at the Ivy Leagues. Disgusting! |
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It's amazing to me how Michelle has so much and also has the audacity to be so angry. How can anyone listen to her tirade about educational costs and take her seriously? She choice to attend extremely expensive schools and she could have opted for more affordable education alternatives. By her husband’s definition of who is rich, Obama and Michelle are among the wealthiest Americans. Michelle get over it. |
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Are you a right-thinking attorney, or is that just a miniker....?
Very rare indeed.... |
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http://www.recreate68.org
Did someone metion tear gas? Pepper spray? Liberal mellons thumped with PR32s? Oh the humanity.... |
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You guys are as stale as your ideas. Stupid me, I never made the association. You want to see Chicago 68 in Denver 08. What a bunch of half-wits. Plum tapped out, eh? Well, it's nothing that a decade or two in the political wilderness can't solve.. |
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One Bloviator infers that he 'takes 9-11 seriously'! Thought everyone should know. |
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