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Monday, July 02, 2007
My Valentine to Delta Airlines
Posted by: Dean Barnett at 8:58 PM

Yesterday Mrs. Soxblog and I winged our way back from pristine Orange County to the gritty City of the Bean. Or, more properly, I should say we attempted to wing our way back to Boston. Here’s the grim story, told in chronological order:

9:15 a.m. PDT – Mrs. Soxblog and I bid a sad farewell to Newport Beach’s Triple A 5 Diamond “The Island Hotel” where the service was exceptional, the spa rejuvenating (or so I’m told), the gym well equipped and the amenities approaching perfection. I eagerly await Hugh’s next vacation so I have an excuse to return.

9:30 a.m. PDT – Mrs. Soxblog and I bid an even sadder farewell to the midnight blue Inifiniti I-35 that we rented. Guess what? It drove much better than my Honda Element. Please don’t tell Lileks.

9:45 a.m. PDT – We enter the John Wayne Airport security cue.

10:15 a.m. PDT – We successfully run the gauntlet of the John Wayne security organization. I very much appreciate the job that the TSA people do. It can’t be much fun, and I they’re polite and efficient. But for reasons that I don’t understand, small airports almost invariably have longer security line waits than big airports in spite of comparable staffing. Just making an observation here, scrupulously avoiding any judgments.

10:21 a.m. PDT – We arrive at the gate for Delta Flight 1546, scheduled to depart for Boston at 11:15 a.m. with a stop at the Cincinnati/Covington airport where Mrs. Soxblog once got a first-rate manicure. Unfortunately, we will not be changing planes so there will be no time for any manicures today.

10:45 a.m. PDT – The Delta gate crew gives us the first bad news of the day. The airplane requires a new battery. The flight will be delayed at least an hour. This announcement sets off a scramble of concerned passengers worried about making their connecting flights. We have no such concerns, since we don’t have to catch a connecting flight since our very plane is headed for Boston.

12:15 p.m. PDT – The bad news continues. The delay will be another hour. The panic among the passengers regarding connecting flights rises. I check to confirm my notion that we are golden since we are on a “thru-flight”. The gate agents confirm my notion. Needless to say, if Delta lacked the will or ability get me home yesterday, I would have found another airline that could get the job done or settle for enjoying the Orange County sunshine for another day.

12:45 p.m PDT – The gate attendants make an announcement that they are looking into everyone’s connecting information, but can’t make any definitive statements to any of the concerned travelers regarding this concern.

1:15 p.m. PDT – Our plane, boasting a spanking new battery, zips down the runway headed for Cincinnati/Covington. My wife is in first class. She’s a silver Medallion member and got an upgrade. The only reason I agreed to fly Delta is because she gets upgraded. Me, I have the seat next to me empty so I too am happy, even though the woman in my row sounds like she has the Plague.

1:40 p.m. PDT – I begin watching the Will Farrell vehicle “Blades of Glory.” It’s funny, but after thirty minutes I get the point and opt for a nap. I whip out one of those ingenious horse-shoe shaped flying pillows and drift into a fitful slumber.

3:30 p.m. PDT – I begin reading Andrew Ferguson’s magnificent “Land of Lincoln”. I figure between now and the end of my day of travel, I’ll be able to read the whole thing.

7:10 p.m. EDT – (Note time change) An hour before landing, panic begins spreading regarding the connecting flights. Normally the flight attendants announce what gates the passengers should go to. Instead, our stews are mum, telling the poor saps with connecting flights that they’ll have to check with the gate agent.

8:10 p.m. EDT - Flight 1546 lands in Cincinnati/Covington.

8:17 p.m. EDT - I make way for the New York bound woman with the Plague to get into the aisle to exit the plane and seek a connecting flight. I settle back into my seat with my book.

8:20 p.m. – The stew comes over the public address system and tells the Boston bound passengers that they will have to deplane and speak to the gate agent. Trouble has entered my heart-shaped world.

8:25 p.m. – A bewildered crew of a few dozen travelers stand puzzled at the gate. There is no gate agent. A helpful Delta employee (a phrase you will not see repeated in this post) tells us to go down to Gate B 14 to the Delta customer help center. Good news! We’re only at Gate B-20. A short walk!

8:27 p.m. – The increasingly angry mob goes to the Delta help center. The employee there is closing up shop, and defiantly tells the mob that the help center closes at 8:30 p.m. and that the mob will have to go through security and visit the ticket desk. This is no small issue if we’re going to catch other planes, since the terminal in Cincinnati/Covington is bigger than Rhode Island.

8:28 p.m. – One passenger, seeing the writing on the wall and arrogating to herself the role of de facto mob leader, pronounces that Delta treats its customers like s**t. The crowd mutters its approval. I begin thinking of “Do the Right Thing.” A Delta captain passing the developing melee tries to subdue the crowd and promises to find someone to help us. He’s the last helpful Delta employee we will see that night.

8:32 p.m. Said pilot, after much phoning and pleading, breaks the news to all of us that we will indeed have to go to the ticket counter. I dial Mrs. Soxblog’s special Silver Medallion help line on my cell phone to find out what our options are. I find out that for inexplicable reasons the second leg of flight 1546 took off at 8:19, five minutes after we landed on the original Flight 1546. Why didn’t they hold the flight for us? Or why didn’t they fly us to Boston on a mostly empty plane? I assume it was because neither one of these would have been cost effective options for Delta. Customer service seems not to have been a factor in the airline’s crude calculus. As we make our way to the ticket counter, we are a tad annoyed.

8:50 p.m. - We arrive at the ticket counter. The person attempting to help us seems not to fully understand her job. She keeps insisting that we shouldn’t be there, that Flight 1546 went to Boston as scheduled. This does not quell our rising anger. I ask for her supervisor.

8:52 p.m. – The supervisor arrives. I run down the story for him. He says our plane had engine problems. This shady attempt at deception fails to get our relationship off on the right foot. I tell him that I know our plane needed a new battery in Orange County, that it got one, and it seemed operational during the flight. We never had to assume crash positions. He barks, “I never said anything about a battery.”

He then calms down and tries to patiently explain to me that the airline tries to inconvenience as few people as possible. I said it looked more like the airline tried to make as much money as possible, and was indifferent to its responsibility of getting its passengers to where they’re supposed to be. I told him that if they wanted to fly a less than full load to Boston with the left behind passengers of Flight 1546, no one would have been inconvenienced.

8:55 p.m. – The supervisor goes into mollification mode, telling us that they’ve put us up for the night. But wait, he says, there’s more! The airline has graciously given us meal vouchers. $7 for dinner, $7 for breakfast. We remain unthrilled.

8:57 p.m. – We ask about getting our luggage. They tell us it’s in holding waiting to be loaded on the flight they’ve booked us on for tomorrow morning. While it’s swell that they’re putting us up for the night, it would be even sweller if we could have such amenities as clean clothes and toothbrushes. My wife brings this point to their attention.

8:59 p.m. – Once again, indifference takes the day. They say they can retrieve our luggage if there is a medical reason. As fate would have it, there is and it’s a serious one. I have Cystic Fibrosis and need my vest airway clearance system (which ways 50 pounds and can’t be a carry on) and the medicine I aerosolize and then inhale (which also can’t be brought on board because of the understandable prohibitions on fluid).

Here, things get a little tense. The supervisor says it will take “a while” to retrieve our luggage. Anger rising, I delicately inquire, “Could you please define ‘a while’?” He responds maybe 45 minutes, maybe two hours, or maybe they won’t be able to find my luggage at all. I ask how they’ll manage to find it tomorrow morning if they can’t find it tonight. He robotically repeats his “45 minute - two hour - not at all” formulation. At this point, my money is on “not at all.” We opt to stop ramming our heads against the wall and instead resign ourselves to collecting our boarding passes for tomorrow and our accommodation and meal vouchers for tonight.

A this point, it’s safe to say we’ve sailed past “irked” and are cruising to “enraged”.

9:05 p.m. – The supervisor steps aside to let the clueless woman do her thing. She says, “You want one room?” My wife and I almost simultaneously say since we are both entitled to a room, we want two. I sure did marry the right woman.

9:15 p.m. - As we leave the desk under the watchful eye of the supervisor who seems understandably wary of us going postal at any minute, I extend my hand and tell him he’s a good guy doing a hard job. In truth, I didn’t think he was a particularly good guy, at least in his capacity as a Delta customer service representative. I thought he had grown way too comfortable giving customers the shaft. If he had any remorse over being the Delta employee in charge of treating its paying customers so poorly, he hid it carefully. He shakes my hand and smiles. I then give him a shot at redemption and myself a shot at catharsis. While we’re having this tender moment, I ask him in all sincerity, “Do you have any idea how much your airline sucks?” He begins yelling at me that he’s been with Delta for 24 years, and he thinks they’re great. I yell back that California will tumble into the sea and Rosie O’Donnell will win the Miss Universe contest before I fly Delta again. We say our farewells.

9:45 p.m. – Because of the vast quantities of displaced Delta customers, it takes 30 minutes to finally get on board the shuttle to the Courtyard Marriot.

9:50 p.m. – We check into the Courtyard Marriot. We combine our two rooming vouchers to upgrade to a suite. Count one small victory for the Soxblogs!

AFTERMATH –

I almost always fly JetBlue or Southwest. When forced to turn to one of the members of the old line oligopoly, I avoid Delta because I’ve always considered them the worst of the worst. They always struck me as not just indifferent to the idea of customer satisfaction, but oddly hostile to it.

I thought back to a few experiences I had with JetBlue over the winter when I frequently used that airline to shuttle back and forth between Florida and Boston. One time in January, our morning flight was an hour late because of mechanical difficulties. The gate attendants rolled over a cart of complimentary Dunkin Donuts and coffee to show their concern. A few weeks later, a JetBlue flight was delayed two hours because of mechanical difficulties. I was delighted to receive an email a few days later with a flight voucher worth the total cost of the flight.

And then there was my conversation with David Neeleman, the then-CEO of JetBlue in the wake of their organizational breakdown that stranded thousands of passengers this winter. The pain in his voice was unmistakable. He cared not only about losing customers, but about his airline living up to its commitments. It’s called ethics.

I couldn’t help comparing JetBlue with Delta as my wife and I sat angrily at the Courtyard Marriot, munching on Cheetos while my lungs became congested. Obviously, I’ll never fly Delta again. Ever. Our “Delta Awards” American Express Gold Cards will be cut in half after this month’s bill is paid.

To be completely honest, there is nothing Delta could do to win my forgiveness. I would, however, like Delta to give me my money back for yesterday’s flight just because it would be the right thing to do. I’m not optimistic on that front. When I mentioned the idea to the customer service supervisor, he pretty much laughed in my face.

I figure someone in Delta’s higher ranks must read this blog. If they would like to offer a defense or explanation for their airline’s actions yesterday, I’ll gladly print it. And I’m sure some of our readers might like some reassurance that they won’t be so rudely handled when they consider what airline to give their future business to.

As far as I’m concerned, though, Delta is dead to me. It’s not a brother, not a friend, and I want two days notice when it comes to visit our mother. But that’s no big deal. I’ve loathed Delta for a long time. But my wife is a loyal flyer and a Silver Medallion member. Or should I say “was.” Delta is dead to her, too. When you treat customers like something you stepped in, there will be consequences.

Compliments? Complaints? Contact me at Soxblog@aol.com.



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saurus writes: Wednesday, July, 04, 2007 9:44 PM
Jim C says ...
"Guess what, we *DO* pay their salaries. Where exactly do you think that all those greenbacksa go when you fork them over to the ticket agent? We pay for our tickets, an dthe company pays their employees out of that money. Is it that unreasonable to expect decent service for the ridiculous amount of money we pay for a ticket?

Jim C"

Sure you do (pay their salary, in part), and so do the employees themselves by way of taxes. No free ride there.

And no - it is not unreasonable to expect decent service for your expemses.

What IS unreasonable is to treat employees - who are probably not paid very well or treated very well by the same company - like crap because you are pissed off. If you want to vent - take it somewhewre it might do some good, like a complaint to the FAA or the company itself. The employee didn't mess up your day. Oh - they were rude to people? So how much crap is a person supposed to take and remain civil to a bunch of screaming cretins? How much would you take if you were in their position?

Anger is understandable. Anger misdirected is not. That's all I'm saying.
saurus writes: Wednesday, July, 04, 2007 9:38 PM
the lawyer speaks ... again
"So thinking that a business should deliver the product it advertises = "I pay your salary"?"

No. Acting like an azzhole does. Some of your clients attitudes must have rubbed off on you.

"I wouldn't know, skippy, I'm a defense lawyer."

LOL ... yeah, Skippy. For Legal Aide maybe:) In your world it's okay to treat people who have NO control over your situation like shite, right? yeah - that's fair. Maybe lawyers who screw up a case and clients get convicted should be fined, then. Pretty much the same thing.
andymo99 writes: Wednesday, July, 04, 2007 4:40 PM
Ho-hum... dime a dozen experience.
Your story is sadly reflective of flying in the US these days. As someone who flies 150,000 or more miles per year (most of that on Delta, and most of it to or from Boston), I can tell you that such experiences are par for the course on ALL major airlines. Even not-so-major ones. You vow to stick to JetBlue. Well, guess what? Anyone who was on JetBlue on Feb 14, in Boston and elsewhere, has vowed to never fly them again. So you'll stick to Jet Blue, and they'll switch to Delta. It all comes out in the wash.

As an aside, I have spent some time chatting with the folks at Delta's operations center who make the decisions to hold planes, cancel flights, dispatch flights, etc. I can assure you that their job is far more complex than one can possibly appreciate without observing it, and also that it is not their objective to upset flyers. They undertake very complex formulas to optimize decisionmaking, and it is NOT just about maximizing profit in individual circumstances. You experienced a tiny snapshot of one event in the day of an airline with thousands of flights and passengers around the globe. You are making a mistake in generalizing one episode from one perspective to a huge operation.

One other comment concerning your "through flight" designation. Despite another poster's comment, this is not done to make elite qualification via segment accrual more difficult. (In fact, Delta no longer awards status based on segments.) Rather, this is a MARKETING strategy to say that the airline has "direct" flights to more destinations. (Note, "direct" flights are not necessarily "nonstop!") Every major airline uses this strategy, and it is very common practice to have to switch gates and planes at the intermediate stop of a direct flight. VERY common!

As noted by another poster, if I took on your attitude of disavowing each airline that disappointed or mistreated me, I would be bankrupt from private air travel by this point.

Final comment/advice: You need to be better prepared to roll with the punches when traveling. Part of travel is dealing with bumps in the road. Really frequent fliers are accustomed to IROPS (interrupted operations). I do well by treating with respect those employees who are positioned and empowered to make my experience as smooth as possible.

Better luck next time.
Jim writes: Wednesday, July, 04, 2007 1:03 PM
Hey Saurus
Guess what, we *DO* pay their salaries. Where exactly do you think that all those greenbacksa go when you fork them over to the ticket agent? We pay for our tickets, an dthe company pays their employees out of that money. Is it that unreasonable to expect decent service for the ridiculous amount of money we pay for a ticket?

Jim C
FlyGirl writes: Wednesday, July, 04, 2007 11:29 AM
It's No Day At The Beach For Us ...
I'm a Delta F/A. Do you think we are having a good time out here? Don't tell me to "get another job if you don't like it"...that's just stupid.

Delta staffs all aircraft with absolute FAA minimum F/A's. That means 1 F/a Per 50 passenger seats. It also means you will never get the service you are entitled to.

Example: If we are delayed at the gate with passengers on board, a F/A cannot leave the aircraft to go to the gate to assist a passenger with connections, etc. By doing so, it would leave the aircraft with less than minimum FAA required F/A's. I can be personally fined by the FAA if I did. Delta would not pay my fine.

If Delta can operate with minimum crew, why pay for extra crew??

This is tolerable for us if the flight operates smoothly. Throw in a medical emergency, weather, delays or unruly passengers, and it all falls apart because we are overwhelmed.

I'm not looking for sympathy. I just want you to realize why some things are what they are. The understaffing applies to ground personal also.

Singapore and other government subsidied foreign airlines have 3 times as many F/A's on board, so of course the service is fantastic. Those young cute things are also paid minimum wages, and must quit by a certain age. Age and sex discrimination is not a law in those countries.

The next time you fly Delta and other US airlines, take another look. Jet Blue recently took several seats off all their aircraft to allow for "reconfigured seating, and more leg room". Translation: By removing several seats, they were also able to remove 1 more F/A for staffing.
Matt, Esq. writes: Wednesday, July, 04, 2007 10:47 AM
well
*Thank you for making my point. You are probably one of those "I pay your salary!" types.*

So thinking that a business should deliver the product it advertises = "I pay your salary"?

*Must be a slow night for ambulances.*

I wouldn't know, skippy, I'm a defense lawyer.
jfrenaye writes: Wednesday, July, 04, 2007 9:19 AM
A few things
Yoou ought to post your tale over on FlyerTalk in the Delta forums. They DO have execs reading and you are more likely to get a response there than contacting the "company" directly--sad but true, but FT has the unique advantage of having the ear to all the high level DL frequent fliers in on spot.

DELTA = Deliver Everyones Luggage To Atlanta (but I like the others)

But it does suck. But glad you got two hotel rooms from them! High five!
azgirl writes: Wednesday, July, 04, 2007 4:25 AM
Hell hath no fury like a blogger scorned
What a horror story that trip turned out to be.

What a nightmare for Delta that their system screwed Dean Barnett. He's not normally so vindictive, but who can blame him over this maltreatment?

Businesses should overhaul their systems and public relations departments because it's the right thing to do and it's far more cost-effective to retain customers than to entice new ones.

Venomous Bloggers on Planes... a nightmare worse than Snakes on Planes for airlines with service and customer relations like this.
booh writes: Wednesday, July, 04, 2007 3:08 AM
Me Too!
I remain dumb-founded at how bad, no malevalent, that Delta has become. I moved from Oregon to Tx for grad school in the very late seventies and early eighties, returned to OR for DMD and with wife (later to become practice wife) in Lubbock. from whence I commuted to and from as my schedule allowed and then later to New Orleans for reisdency where I remained for 11 years. We returned in 97 to OR and regularly travel nack to N.O. for family and buisness.We preferrentially flew Delta and they were great, rarely late, never lost a bag and professsional if not friendly. Some where in there they went over to the dark side. I would now rather join the Bataan Death March than fly Delta, They have stranded me, stranded my family, lost my luggage, in Atlanta lost my sidearm and all without any compensation, contrition or courtesy. Recently one of my long-time patients came in for routine check-up. She had mentioned a trip over-seas at her last visit so I asked about the trip; My Bad. Three days travel from Portland to London except she never made it out of the U.S. She did have a particularly precious experience of receiving a $ 99.00 voucher for a $ 225.00 room that her carrier placed her in, shes still trying to recover the other $126.00. Any guesses which airline ? Delta, You're not going to get there.
mefolks writes: Wednesday, July, 04, 2007 1:42 AM
Northwest
Being a Minnesotan, I'm locked into Northwest for most of my flying. Unlike many others, I've had mostly fine experiences with Northwest. Just dumb luck, I guess. The only problem I had with them was four years ago, flying from Minneapolis to Dayton, Ohio. Northwest's rep told me not to put a strap around my big Samsonite suitcase because she said those things snag on equipment and cause problems. She told me to lock my suitcase instead. I protested, saying that that would force the TSA to break the locks to inspect. She said that my suitcase was made in the four-decade period when all Samsonite and Royal Traveler luggage used the exact same key, and not only did their baggage handlers have that key, she said that TSA inspectors all had that key. Of course, when I claimed my suitcase at Dayton, it was in shrink-wrap plastic and both locks were broken. My complaints kept going in a daisy chain of buck-passers, finger-pointers and deaf-as-a-post functionaries. I gave up on a claim, and I'm looking for some shop that might happen to have replacement locks. I do have horror stories about the old People Express and the much-trashed Delta, but I'll spare you folks the details.
saurus writes: Wednesday, July, 04, 2007 12:04 AM
matt, Esq (oh - excuse me - a lawyer)
"And for better or worse, ticket agents, FA and other's are the face of the airline and dealing with irate customers is their job, whether its "fair" to them or not. Its what they get paid to do. If an airline for which you work is constantly late and customers are constantly complaining about the airline and you don't like having to deal with the complaints, find another airline to work for."

Thank you for making my point. You are probably one of those "I pay your salary!" types.

Must be a slow night for ambulances.
Jim writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 10:31 PM
Unions, airlines, and flying
I agree, the executives probably play a big part in the problem. However, I would think that the unions have a big part in it also. What incentive do the employees have to treat the customers right when they have the union to save their jobs? There simply is no reason for them to do right by the customer when there will be no consequence for screwing the customer over.

As far as flying... I hate it. Too many bad experiences ranging from lost luggage to scary flights where -- no kidding -- one actually wondered whether or not they would survive. Ever since my last experience in '96 flying into Chicago in a snow storm I have driven wherever I needed to go. Call me a chicken, but I just can't take that kind of excitement anymore. Then again, I don't have to travel for business... just on vacation, and don't really have any desire to go overseas.

Jim C
Billy Beck writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 7:38 PM
BTDT
StacyH -- "You are scheduled to be on a flight tomorrow morning with US Air. That flight has been cancelled. Please call the 800 for more information."

(laff, laff, laff) I got that exact same call, very late Friday evening. I was in Houston. The excuse for my cancellation was "weather". It cost my boss another night at the downtown Hilton, and his question was, "'weather'... *where*??" I just shrugged, and -- of course -- he knew there was no point to it. I was supposed to fly home Sunday, and ended up hanging in Houston until Monday.

If I did my job the ways that these idiots do, I'd be selling pencils out of a tin cup on a street corner, and I would *deserve* it.
rmf writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 6:18 PM
Chicago O'Hare Hell
There is NO airplane hell worse than United at Chicago when things go wrong. Employees go into slow-accumulate mucho overtime mode. They actually enjoy being nasty and watching people suffer. There is a Darwinian slog from terminal to terminal. I will forever have nightmares of black and white floor tiles and neon lights. There is no escape. There is no information on message boards. There is no place to sit. No place to eat. Amazing!!! How can these people stay in business? If one of these dinosaurs actually managed to die a well deserved death, maybe the fear of a similar fate would cause the survivors to improve to merely awful. Long story short -- a 20 minute thunderstorm in Chicago earned us a 18 hour trip from Denver to Providence via Chicago, leaving Denver scheduled for 8 am, arrival in Providence at 4 the next morning.

alfonzo writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 6:01 PM
From the belly of the beast: Delta sucks
Delta does indeed suck. Living in Atlanta and traveling often for business, I've been treated to every variety of suck that Delta has to offer, and brother, that's plenty. The "worst of the worst" is the former subsidiary ASA, better known as "Always Stuck in Atlanta," or "Absoltuely Sh***y Airline." ASA's customer service is so bad (their motto: "You can make your flight or drop dead--it's all the same to us!") that Delta had to take over all their gates in Atlanta and replace ASA's agents with Delta employees.

Imagine that: customer service so awful that you get replaced by DELTA GATE AGENTS. The mind boggles.

As Dean and Glenn have so aptly noted, the very worst thing about Delta's terrible service is that their people absolutely do not give a crap, and actually appear to enjoy being jerks when they can't deliver what they're being handsomely paid for. I would have shed no tears if they'd gone under--and I fully expect Delta to go belly-up eventually anyway. They've just got too many jerks on the payroll to succeed in a customer-oriented business.
soothsayer writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 5:25 PM
Just an FYI
People have hassles flying every day. Nobody is interested in hearing this whining.
jt writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 4:42 PM
United
One thing I found interesting about United was the difference between their international and domestic service.

Once I was on a business trip to Singapore (I can vouch for Singapore Airlines, too), and decided to treat myself to a little vacation on the way home. So, I exchanged my Tokyo-to-San Francisco ticket for Tokyo-to-Honolulu-to-San Francisco. Nice! And the change fee was pretty reasonable.

But what struck me was the difference in the level of customer service between the two legs (both in United's economy class):

Tokyo-to-Honolulu: Free booze, nice meal, after-dinner port to round out the meal, those excellent hot towels to refresh.

Honolulu-to-San Francisco: Box lunch, $5 beer, wet nap. Liqueur? Are you crazy?

Those flights are more-or-less the same length. I suppose, taken separately, that they charge more for the international leg, but the difference was so striking that it made me feel that they were taking advantage of the domestic traveler to fatten up on the richer international travelers.
foobarista writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 4:28 PM
Commuter airline adventure
Recently, we flew on a commuter airline in Hawaii. It was quite an adventure, mostly in a good way: the pilot was also the flight attendant and the baggage handler, and mentioned that the plane's avionics would beep and buzz occasionally and to not worry about it.

The flight itself was fun - we flew low enough that we could see the islands and water - and got blown around quite a bit by the wind, especially when coming over Haleakala volcano. But if you had a weak constitution, it could be troublesome...

But there was a lot to be said about interacting with humans that talked directly to you and showed you stuff, and not lost in some massive - and broken - "process".
MTinMN writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 4:20 PM
NorthWorst Airlines
dakotabilly must be a (disgruntled) NWA employee. Never have so many union employees thought they all should be paid what the CEO makes. 5-7 years ago NWA pilots struck the airline until they got the "best contract in the industry" They shut down the airline for over a week and indeed did get the highest paying contract in the industry. Based on that, the FA's got a similarly generous contract. And the mechanics had similar ideas that they should be paid more than either other group. All these unions proceeded to drive the airline into bankruptcy with higher demands for pay and increasingly poor service.

And now somehow the CEO is at fault because the FEDERAL (not Minnesota) bankruptcy court encouraged the unions to renegotiate lower contracts. (With the threat of contract imposition, admittedly). And the CEO is somehow mismanaging when the pilots stage a sick out.

My own NWA story:

Outbound: delayed in DTW for almost 4 hours on the connectly flight, missed our activity for that evening.

Homebound: after being stranded in PIT last week by delayed and then cancelled flights, unable to rebook through nwa.com and not being able to get an answer (literally hours on hold) from the 800 number, we asked for our bags (no one at the baggage office for 15 minutes)(45+ minutes for the bags to appear on carosel), rented a car and drove to DTW (5 hours) to standby the rest of the way home.
archomatic writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 3:58 PM
Agreeing that Delta s**ks
I flew Delta to germany in 2005 and they lost all of my luggage. I stayed for a week and they never found it. In addition, the flight to germany was postponed for hours and came really close to being cancelled. I declared then, that Delta was dead. Yet here they are, still bringing that same ole entrepreneurial suck to air travel.

They ultimately paid for the baggage, which was good news.

My flight, however, was paid for by the US government and as such, I had no real venue to say to the government that my flight sucked and for the government to stop paying hard earned taxpayer dollars on Delta. I am sure that the US governent is still keeping them afloat.
triton writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 2:18 PM
Different Industry - Same Issue
Sorry to go off subject, but this one's a hoot. Took my wife and 2 toddlers from Phoenix to Myrtle Beach for vacation. Wanted a special car for the week so we booked a convertible thru Hertz. Called the week before to confirm and specifically ask what year and make the car would be so we could plan for any space issues. Arrived at the counter in Columbia SC with a very excited family to pick up our convertible and was told..."sir, we don't have convertibles here. I can give you a nice Pontiac Grand Am, however" AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!
abugbabe writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 1:33 PM
As a former frequent flyer -
I have to say that I never had any issues with Delta or American. They were fine if they were the best way to get someplace.

I love Frontier. They are always nice, although a flight was delayed once because the plane didn't have any ice on it. The passengers and flight crew were willing to go without, but we were all overruled.

US Airways is the only definitive NO in my book. They left me stranded in Denver (blizzard in May). My flight, after all the snow had melted, and 3 others to Phoenix were all canceled the same morning, but they would send me standby. I asked them the odds of leaving anytime that weekend. They didn't give me good odds. I drove home (14 hours).

Last week, US Air left my boss stranded in Philly (after 5 hours on the tarmac. The flight crew wanted to take off and had enough time left to fly to Phoenix, but the airline told them no. She didn't even get a dinner voucher. They told her that it'd be 4 or 5 days until she could catch a flight. Her luggage would be going to Phoenix the next day, though. Needless to say, she didn't take US Airways on that flight. She still insists on flying them though. And, adding to their charm, because they are our hometown airline, every agent in the Phoenix airport is hostile to the passengers.

Northwest was the only carrier to ever lose my luggage in all of the flights I took.
ShiningCity writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 12:57 PM
Your meds
I wonder what they would have done had somebody packed their insulin. That seems very egregious to me not to get you your nebulizer & abx.
ShiningCity writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 12:55 PM
For those in the territory
I've found Frontier to be very civil. and they have the cool TV's in the back of the headrest.

Eran writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 12:52 PM
Delta etc.
This post got a lot of comments. What bothers me more is the attitude of too many corporate executives who ignore the frustrations of their clients/customers and probably staff. Attitude is a top-down responsibility. When people are treated poorly, they act poorly. My previous experience selling to a major US airline, even 10-15 years ago, showed the executive attitude stunk. Executives of most airlines, the major ones at least, comprise a closed, old-boys network. The float from airline to airline and up their pay as they go. As far as the employees, well, heck, they don't matter. This in turn drives union demands which in turn result in lousy service.

This executive attitude problem is not limited to airlines, though. Companies with isolated executives have employees with attitude problems. It's real simple - WALK THE FLOOR!
Matt, Esq. writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 12:32 PM
For those defending the airlines ...
At what point may a customer become irate ? Isn't it part of the (expensive) service the airlines are selling- on-time travel ? If on-time travel is not what's being sold, then prices should go down. Who's fault is it that the flight is delayed, luggage lost etc. Its the airlines' fault, not the customer's fault. And for better or worse, ticket agents, FA and other's are the face of the airline and dealing with irate customers is their job, whether its "fair" to them or not. Its what they get paid to do. If an airline for which you work is constantly late and customers are constantly complaining about the airline and you don't like having to deal with the complaints, find another airline to work for.

dakotabilly writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 12:31 PM
NORTHWEST IS THE NORTH'SWORST
I agree that US Airlines are headed for a crash and burn situation(no pun intended, please, so don't call the TSA, the FBI, the FAA, or any other law enforcement agency). And NORTHWORST is the worst of the lot. After driving NWA INTO bankruptcy, Prez. Steenland, was given a $28 million bonus to bring it OUT of bankruptcy, while slashing jobs, and extorting concessions--with the help of the Minnesota Court System--out the the remaining employees. And now, listen to this ladies and gentlemen: NORTHWORST cancelled hundreds of flights last week while blaming the pilots, the air traffic control system, and the weather. Of course, management incompetence and greed had nothing to do with these cancellations, nosireeee!

NORTHWORST is a classic business school case of mismanagement. Good luck to the passengers who attempt to get from point A to point B with this outfit.

saurus writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 12:06 PM
Noah is right
People *in general# behave like asses these days. One only has to view a single episode of the TV show "Airline", dealing with a day with Southwest personnel, to see the results of a generation of foul mouthed, ill mannered nitwits.

Personally - if I were one of the Southwest people treated to the mouths of some of the people videoed, I'd smack them in the mouth and find another job.

Anger with an airline for unexplained problems is one thing - and sometimes understandable - but acting like a total jerk to a person who is in no position to do anything about it is just stupid.
Noah Zark writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 11:57 AM
The system is breaking down...
It is a sad fact of modern life that all airlines in the US offer worse service than they did ten years ago. A frequent flier myself, I can recount horror stories of my own, but none involving Delta. Posters praising American Airlines --which has consistently ranked at the bottom of the US majors--- are more evidence that opinions on this topic are like arseholes ---- everybody's got one.

If anyone can offer statistics --- not anecdotes --- to point to any airlines that always "deliver" I'd be happy to read them. But the legion of stories about computer outages, delays, lost luggage etc. involving all carriers indicate the entire system is not well. And in the post-9/11 world, with passengers having to run a gauntlet through TSA thugs and incompetents, doesn't help matters. (may Norman Mineta fry in hell!)

Tellingly, no one posting here has acknowledged that passengers have become increasingly churlish, hostile and even dangerous much more frequently in the past, as they take their frustrations about flight delays, long periods on the tarmac, and missed connections out on employees who are not themselves responsible for them. "Air rage", anyone?

My sister has worked for Delta for over 30 years as a FA. Because she flies international routes (which Delta is betting its future on), she travels to interesting places, loves her job, takes pains to give customers the service they deserve, and is not above taking junior FA's behind the curtain to tell them to shape up. She and her fellow senior FA's are not, as the mis-named St. Steve claims, "miserable middle aged losers recently robbed of their benefits and pensions."

She went through the Delta bankruptcy worrying about loss of pay of job, pay, benefits and pension. When Delta emerged from Chapter 11, she and all the other employees got immediate raises, new stock at issue value (not options; the stock was salable the day after she received it) AND letters explaining that by the end of the year the company would be bringing payments into the pension plans completely up to date, moving to a monthly (not quarterly) payment schedule to speed the refunding process.

Cynics will say Delta management was hanging garlic around their employees' necks to ward off the FA union's attempts to organize their employees. And they would be right. But acting in one's long term interest is what businesses are supposed to do.

I wouldn't expect conservatives to argue that unions would lead to better service --- but then again I wouldn't expect conservatives arguing (rightly) against illegal immigration displacing American jobs and depressing wages, and then see them wish that middle-aged FA's be replaced by "young, attractive" ones, both inexperienced and working for a lot less money.

So chill.



saurus writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 11:55 AM
Guess I'm in the minority here
I admit to being an "infrequent" flier (only 6 flights over the last 3 years), but never had an experience like all of you, thank God.

My first 2 trips were via Delta to DFW. Both a pleasure - absolutely no complaints at all. Left on time - arrived on time. Of course I only had a carry on, so ...

Second via Delta to DFW, same deal. FA's were wonderful, Captain a hoot. (perhaps ID'ing myself as LEO and offering help if needed made a difference?)

Third trip to DFW was via United, since Delta no longer flew into DFW non-stop. Again - no complaints at all.

Guess I'm lucky.

That aside, I swore I would no longer fly anywhere as long as we are treated like terror suspects by high school dropout TSA agents with less sense than a 5 year old. If that means no trips to the other coast ... no loss there anyway. I'll drive wherever I need to go, thanks very much.
StacyH writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 11:38 AM
US Airways Worst
They have the worst record for canceling flights and they have massive computer problems. I guess a couple weeks ago their computers messed up and they had to put all their passengers on other airlines. They've had cancellations galore after that.

Well, my husband was flying from Dallas / Fort Worth to Philly international on Saturday, June 30th. Just a few days ago. While at a customer dinner on Friday (my husband is in sales) he recieves a call with an automated message that say "You are scheduled to be on a flight tomorrow morning with US Air. That flight has been cancelled. Please call the 800 for more information."

Perturbed, he hangs up and comes back to the table to tell me the news. This trip had been planned for the last year. The air fare had been purchased a month ago. He was meeting his brothers (whom he rarely spends time with) for a 4th of July bonding trip. His other brothers were meeting him there on the 3oth at a predetermined time.

I call US Airways, because he needs to entertain his customers. After several minutes on hold, a person with an Indian accent picks up the phone. I give her my information. She puts me on hold for 20 minutes. She comes back and tells me that the flight has been cancelled due to the flight crew not having the necessary amount of time to rest. At this point, it's 10:00PM ... the flight is at 7:20 PM. So this is a feasible excuse.

I say what other flight can you put us on. She proceeds to tell me that there are no flights leaving Dallas with room to Philly that day. Would my husband be able to fly out on the 31st of June?

I proceed to get angry. There is no 31st of June.

She argues with me for several minutes and tells me there is nothing she can do. I tell her that he has to get out there, he is expected. This trip has been planned. She places me on hold. We get disconnected.

I call back. I speak with another man with an Indian accent. I go through my whole speal. He puts me on hold for 20 minutes. Yes he says, the flight is cancelled. Thank you sir, I already know that. What flight can you get me on tomorrow?

There is nothing leaving Dallas tomorrow. No one can get you to Philly. He will have to travel on Sunday.

No sir, I say. He has to be there tomorrow. Find another airline. This is your fault, fix it.

Ma'am, no one has any room.

I say, does Southwest have any room?

Silence. He sighs loudly, places me on hold and says he will check. I am on hold for 20 - 30 minutes before being disconnected. I spent an hour and a half on the phone doing nothing.

The next morning we drove to the airport as planned. My husband was on the phone with the airline the whole way. This time, they said they couldn't locate his travel and had no record of a cancelled flight.

I - yelling at this point - said it's 6:00AM! Does she really think we are calling her for our health?

She finally found the reservation. She had - of course - been spellng our last name wrong.

The end of the story -- after many arguments -- my husband lied to them. He told them he had to get to Philly to see his baby sister get married. HE didn't care when he got there, he siad, he just wanted to give her a hug before she left for her honeymoon.

Now, this worked because the woman got him on two different flights, to make sure that he got there. One that landed at 9:45 PM (he would see her at the end of the "reception") and the second, which he took, that landed at 6:00, just in time for the "ceremony" at 7:00.

He got there, but he's on US Air on the way back. Not good. But I wonder why I have such a compunction to tell these people the truth when they are instructed to lie to their customers.

Our belief is now, that US Airways has had so many cancellations, that the flight he was on was empty. And it was more cost effective for them to cancel the flight than have it go.

We believe this because the following morning, the cancellation reason was "weather." Which there was none.
Mongo writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 11:14 AM
10 hour rule
Attention fliers: use the 10 hour rule:
If you can drive there in 10 hours, drive. Looking at this may have to convert to the three-day rule. For overseas trips, I wonder if tramp steamers could be worse than the airlines?
angel_fan67 writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 11:11 AM
One good one
Although they have limited use for most people, I have never had a problem with Hawaiian Airlines. They seem to put customer service near the top of their priority list.
Ryan writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 10:52 AM
But the most telling part...
...of the story is the fact that on a "single" flight from Orange County, CA to Boston, with a "stopover" in Cincinnati, the stopover included an "equipment change". I'm a former Platinum Medallion Delta flyer (I worked out of a small town where Delta was the only choice), and I once had a Delta employee confide in me that the reason they do that is so that their customers are awarded only one flight segment instead of two, thus extending the amount of flights one must take in order to reach the next level of their frequent flyer status. So, Dean, you got royally screwed because of an airline practice that was INTENDED to screw their customers. Not that you needed any further reason to be irate...
TMG writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 9:32 AM
Furiocity.com
You need to see the other posts on how Delta sucks on furiocity.com.
smagar writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 9:18 AM
If you fly Delta, join their Crown Room
It gives you a nice place to stay/hang out while the flights are delayed. Plus, free booze!

While I'm a loyal Delta flier (Gold or Platinum Medallion, depending on how much business travel I do during a particular year), I take them for what they're worth. I NEVER NEVER fly Delta if I need to make an important business meeting on the same day I'm traveling. And, in the summer thunderstorm period, I'm no longer surprised if my connecting flight---or the crew who'll fly it---takes forever to reach the airport where I'm waiting for it.
voiceguy writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 9:17 AM
Thanks for your pain (and writing it)
Dean,

Sorry for the painful day of travel but I enjoyed reading about it. You crack me up.
melanzan writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 8:45 AM
As several commenters have noted
ALL AIRLINES ARE CRAP. The industry is killing itself slowly. I've got well over 700,000 air miles to my name and service worsens daily, even for frequent business travelers. Throw a bloated bureaucracy like TSA into the mix and it certainly doesn't make for more efficient service.

It has me thinking that I'm going to start buying webcams and meeting software for each of my clients and sending it to them, at my expense. This would be cheaper than me flying to meet with them, and I'll be home each night to play with my kid.

For vacations, Hawaii will be replaced by bike rides down to 7-11 and buying big frozen ice cream bars.
jtb-in-texas writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 8:35 AM
Then there was the case of the...
missing gas cap at TRI (I hate ATRs anyway...

There was also the plane in Seoul that needed a new front tire, no it was a hydraulic problem, no it was just a faulty circuit-breaker in the cockpit...

Did I tell you about the 5PM flight from Augusta to Atlanta that turned into a 2AM bus trip?

Sure, everyone who's flown more than once can find a flaw somewhere. Heck, AA loses my luggage every third trip, United has smelly bathrooms, and KAL spilled someone else's wine on me (I don't do wine on planes--plastic cups and all that). No bad experiences yet on Continental or US Airways; but Arcata Flying Service had to land a couple times to add oil to the starboard engine.

I've got stories about National, Allegheny, Hughes, and Republic, too. But we already know the score.

It's a fact of life that "Customer Service" is a rare commodity everywhere (not just the airlines). And it is, as Dean points out correctly, a lot more than kind and soothing words. It is doing what the customer paid you to do...

Next time you get good service, make sure you say thanks. Maybe even call a supervisor over and thank them, too. Maybe we can do for crapulent service what we did for Amnesty?
Matt, Esq. writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 8:35 AM
Add
Add American and US Air to the list of airlines I won't fly. Especially American- you'd think leaving/arriving on time is optional for them, 24/7.

Southwest and Jet Blue are the way to go.
Brad writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 7:31 AM
i've also
had bad Delta experiences. Not a fan, not a customer.
MellorSJ2 writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 6:10 AM
Avoid US legacy airlines
All US legacy airlines are awful. The least awful is AA (IMO), but it's still awful.

(Austal)asian airlines, OTOH, are very good. Singapore Airlines, for example, offers flat seats in business, on demand entertainment, good food, free wireless in the lounge, and so on. Singapore airport is a pleasure to be in. Try saying that for any US airport!

Cathay Pacific is also very good. I can get a sit-down full meal for free in the HKG lounge, and then toddle off to the shower and sit by a little stream they have there. If I fall asleep, they'll wake me up in time to catch my flight.

JAL brings service to a wholly new level. As I *think* I'll have another beer, there they are asking me what I'd like next. Seats could do with a bit of work, but pretty good.

QANTAS is very good indeed. Great seats, very comfortable lounges, on-demand entertainment, etc etc etc. Compare the lounge in SYD with American's in DFW. No comparison. Very friendly and helpful staff.

ANZ.... well... you get the picture.

Even BA, long haul, is better than any US airline, though I can't say the same for their short flights, which are an embarrassment to all concerned.
BJM92649 writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 2:24 AM
JetBlue to LGB
The next time you fly to Orange County from Boston, consider taking JetBlue non-stop from BOS to Long Beach. Easy airport to get in and out of; cheaper long-term parking. LGB is much closer to OC than LAX. We live in Huntington Beach.
John Wayne Airport (SNA), though nice, does not have non-stops to the east coast. We've taken JetBlue to DC twice and will likely take it to BOS to visit my in-laws.
We enjoyed listening to you on KLRA-870 last week. Though your Boston accent is nowhere near as stong as my mother-in-law's; born and raised in Sommerville, MA.
PhillupSpace writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 2:21 AM
And I Know Airplanes!!!
A Battery? I doubt it. While major parts are not
kept at all airports, batteries are as common as
light bulbs. They should be changed "on the Gate in a maximum of 20 minutes.
PhillupSpace writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 2:13 AM
Senior Crows should retire at 60
Too many personnel with the "legacy airlines" remember the days when they could file a union grievance and shut down the airline! Old Dogs, New Tricks? Perhaps that sounds to harsh. For
comparison just fly to the orient on Singapore or Thai and return on United. On the way out it is hard to catch a nap, they are trying so hard to please you. On your return, you could faint in the aisle and those witches would just step over you and disappear behind their curtain for 4 hours. People don't change; the old take their
attitudes to the grave and are replaced by young
people with fresh eyes. The same should apply to companies. Where is Pan Am, Eastern, Braniff,
TWA, Piedmont? Just where they belong!

This demonstrates what a big mistake it was not to let UAL, et,al. Join them.
Fructose writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 1:51 AM
The last straw..
I've had bad experiences with Delta also. Your story reminded me of my near-forgotten vow to never patronize them again.
Betty writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 1:39 AM
Dalta unchanged from 10 years ago
Sad to read Delta has not changed its ways since a day in Orlando, Florida, ten years ago. Then they started with the ubiquitous mechanical. Served us breakfast as we sweltered on the tarmac and after many encouraging announcements, including the one about flying in a new part from Atlanta ordered us all off the plane. No one, but no one, on the ground had any knowledge of our plight (needed booking on another plane) or cared. They opened up ticketing booths only to close them with the lines undiminished. Did not know where the luggage was and did not care. The worse part was that--total lack of concern for what they were doing to the customers who might keep them in business.
Raja writes: Tuesday, July, 03, 2007 12:30 AM
not surprised
ALL airlines are crap. no matter how much gloss they put on when they first debut, they WILL go bad, they WILL screw you over, and they WILL enjoy it. it's just a matter of time and odds. and then there's the airport employees and the other passengers...what a nightmare


ps. why the hell do you have a “Delta Awards” American Express Gold Card? get a cash back card
kchand writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 11:54 PM
Don't you know
DELTA = Don't Ever Leave The Airport.

As an aside, I enjoyed Easy Jet in Europe. New, clean planes with young, friendly attendants.
Joe writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 11:43 PM
The Perfect Gift!
For Delta Frequent Fliers and Mitt Romney supporters! http://www.prankplace.com/dogpoop.htm
Jon.nine writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 11:34 PM
I'm speechless
The story you related is so beyond the pale that I am sitting here shaking my head.

That they could not and would not comply with your medical need, by making it their own, that is unconscionable.

Having but limited knowledge of Mrs. Soxblog, I admire her all the more.
Rick writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 11:32 PM
My valentine to Alaska Airlines
Dean - I feel for you. While you were enjoying your odyssey on Delta, I was having my own with Alaska. Mine resulted in a six hour drive.

http://holycoast.blogspot.com/2007/07/ode-to-airlines.html
KGK writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 11:29 PM
Horror stories
Many years ago, William F Buckley wrote a scathing essay on why we the public must must complain when the airlines mistreat us, lose luggage and do other strange weird things to make our inner beasts explode. He was right. We all have horror stories. Mine are mostly from overseas flights that took upward of 18-22 hours for many many reasons including a strike called, generator murders, yes Dean batteries are in league with the anti-Christ, and lost baggage which was sent to London and Tahiti in two different episodes. The public must keep railing and then applaud the ones who do well as jetblue did for me and apparently you.
Doug writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 11:27 PM
NWA just loves DB's report!
That's because Northwest Airlines is not much loved at all up here near Canada's southern border!

All the good ones died and went to airline heaven; Western Airlines, Braniff, TWA, Pan Am, and Eastern (Well, many not Eastern!). Makes one wonder why Jet Blue isn't taking over the whole business. Oops, Jet Blue too has problems but deals with them.

Let me tell you about the time we flew Western to Arizona and back. You wouldn't believe that tale of joy and ....
TheProudDuck writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 11:24 PM
Acronym
DELTA = Don't Expect Luggage To Arrive.
bwright writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 11:12 PM
I fly every week
sometimes two or three legs... airlines all stink. even jet blue has its moments - like the time they wouldn't let me board a flight I was confirmed on because they had given a standby passenger my seat - but JB is far and away the best and most reconciliatory after a screw.
caltexman1 writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 11:01 PM
The Godfather
Excellent use of a GF quote, my friend. Superb.
invernessie writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 11:00 PM
Airline from Hell
I travel every week for business. This past week I was in Philly. My first attempt to get home to Chicago was met with cancellations, of which American Airlines neglected to inform me (many hours wasted at the airport, needless to say).

I was the forced to scramble for a hotel room in Philly when rooms were scarce and expensive. Day 2, went to the airport early in hopes of standing-by for an earlier flight. Just my "luck", I snagged the last seat on the last flight from Philly.

Much delays and diversions due to fuel shortages, I was stranded in Indianapolis. The Pilot was most weepy in his "empathy" for us poor suckers stuck in Indy due the to weather and his excess flight hours.

The flight would not resume until the next day (Day 3), and American was only offering, on a first-come-first-served basis, 100 seats on a bus(es) from Indy to Chicago.

Not wanting to engage in unseemly acts of dueling the seniors and the indisposed for limited seats, I sought out a rental car. Once again, another scarce commodity.

I did manage to secure a Hertz rental car, and once I navigated the extensive waiting line, high-tailed it back to Chi-town.

Imagine, the next day when I was looking for some small compensation for being stranded in Indy, I was informed by American that the flight was considered "Completed". The rep informed me that as they got me safely to a near-by city (200 miles away), their obligation was fulfilled. I questioned the fact that I paid for them to get me from Philly to Chicago (which they most certainly did not fulfill), and was informed that they believed that they had met their obligation.

So, Queen of the Pigs - which airline has that questionable title?
reynoldssu writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 10:47 PM
Fly American
Dude, fly American -- they treat me like royalty; that Boston crew is awesome!

:-)
Nickname Is Required writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 10:44 PM
Well, it could've been worse...
You could have been a passenger on that Continental Airlines over the Atlantic when the toilet overflowed and sewage is rolling down the aisle. The funniest part is that the flight attendants are telling the passengers not to drink or eat too much - like that would build your appetite ;-)

Last week, I drove from Sacramento to San Francisco to pick up a friend and his family from a non-stop flight from China. They were to land in Los Angeles, clear customs, and catch a United Express to San Francisco.

Right when I am in the middle of SF (at rush hour, of course) my cell phone rings - Albert is telling me "might as well turn back - we have been bumped". Apparently according to Albert airlines now overbook 70% of their flights.

To shorten the story they give them a later flight to Sacramento - after sitting 5-6 hours in LA AFTER flying ~16 hours across the Pacific.

Their luggage was lost for 2 days and when they finally got it all a silk blanket purchased in China was missing although it could have been stolen anywhere from China to here.

Maybe we should all chip in for a Gulfstream.
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 10:44 PM
New battery?
I prefer flying on jets that burn jet fuel.
COgirl writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 10:38 PM
I remember when. . .
I grew up in Atlanta and remember when Delta used to be a great airline. The downfall was when they acquired the unionized Western Airlines. Been downhill ever since then.
Sando writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 10:28 PM
Note to self...
Scratch Delta from airline options.
ShoreMark writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 10:13 PM
Only an hour for a battery?
"The airplane requires a new battery. The flight will be delayed at least an hour."

That's not that bad, just think if the plane was powered by an iPhone battery, they'd have had to send the whole plane back to Boeing and waited 3 days!
crash72 writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 10:07 PM
Most Disgusting Airline People on Earth
I'll spare everyone the gory details but the bottom line is DELTA AIRLINES caused my wife (and me) to miss her 50th birthday round of golf at Pebble Beach. We will NEVER FLY DELTA AGAIN!
Oldsmoblogger writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 9:56 PM
Delta schmelta
I avoid Delta like the plague. I keep expecting them to put subway straps in the aisles so they can cram a few more bodies onto the plane. Southwest is my first choice, and I've had reasonable luck with Continental over the years.
BrianD writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 9:51 PM
Airline Non-Customer Service
I can sympathize. I have a couple of horror stories about United Airlines and San Francisco airport.

The United people in Orange County has always been nice. The United agents in San Francisco seem to be from hell.
Reed writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 9:40 PM
More Valentines for the Airlines
Mr. & Mrs. Soxblog:

Thanks for the details of your adventure on Delta. Unfortunately it is a less and less common tale in this industry. There can be a fine line between a customer service save and a customer service nightmare. Sometimes I think that the airline employees like to be the star of the traveller's nightmare.

To tell you the truth, I will be suprised to see half of the big five US carriers in operation in two years and the demise may happen quite rapidly if Southwest were able to dismantle the Wright amendment and when Virgin's US airlines begins operation.

There is truely little difference between the big 5 (American, United, Continental, Delta and Northwest) and the successful regional and discount carriers. While operating as they have the last several months may get them near profitability the long term damage to their brands will probably never recover.

I thought that Northwest may go down first (acquired and/or scaled down), but after hearing more and more stories about Delta, particularly their employee apathy, maybe it will be Delta.

I have been an American Airlines devotee for many years, but my patience is wearing very think with them due to experiences similar to yours with Delta. If it were not for my Status and massive accumulation of miles I would probably shift most of my business to Southwest. The miles are less of an anchor than they used to be since there are very few seats made available to consume them.

Best of luck on your journey from this point forward!

Scott writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 9:35 PM
I can sympathize
A tale of two flights, both Delta Airlines

On May 13, I was forced by my employer to make a trip to Newark, NJ, and I flew Delta. While New Jersey may be the Garden State, it's not really my idea of a good time. Since I was flying Delta, I was delayed in Atlanta due to storms on the east cost. Aha, I though, with any luck, I won't have to go to New Jersey. After hours of delays, with many passengers needing to go to New Jersey (why, no one really knows), Delta got a 767, the big one, out of the garage for a special, unscheduled flight to make sure everyone got to NJ. And I got to my hotel at about 1:00 in the a.m. In New Jersey, mind you.

On May 24, the wife and I departed Dallas for a vacation in the UK, also flying Delta. We are not talking about a business trip to Newark, New Jersey. We are talking about an expensive flight for a two week vacation. We were delayed in Dallas by storms, not Delta's fault. So naturally, we got to Atlanta late.

When we were landing, we were told that agents would meet us at the gate to assist with getting us to our connecting flight. To Edinburgh. In Scotland. Not New Jersey.

No attendants were at the door.

Everyone who has flown into Atlanta knows the drill: grab your bags and run like hell through two terminals to get your flight. Which we did.

We may have been a minute or two late, but it was close. The airplane was still sitting at the gate. We could see that they were still loading luggage. No, they would not let us on because they had already close the door. Apparently doors can only be closed, not reopened. Or something like that. At least, not by Delta. That is, if you are not, you know, going to New Jersey. And they were still loading luggage.

Not to worry, the attendant said. He gave us CONFIRMED boarding passes on a flight that connected through Gatwick. Confirmed boarding passes. I still have them. Would be happy to fax you copies. Send me an email with a fax number and I will fax it to you.

We went to the Gatwick gate and were told, in a rather frosty tone, that we had to go to Information.

Delta Information moves slightly slower than evolution. I swear I saw two people change into other beings while we were in line. As you say, the concern level was not just low, it was in the negatives.

The reason we could not board the flight to Gatwick? The flight to Gatwick was full to begin with, and the attendant at the Edinburgh counter didn't want to deal with the dozen unhappy customers who wanted to get on the flight. So he sent us away with hope and lying boarding passes.

But the lady at Information assured us that the attendant at the Gatwick gate was completely unhappy, incensed, I tell you, incensed, that the boarding passes had been issued. Like this would make us feel better. This is one of the reasons that God made Hell.

The flight stayed on the ground for at least 30 minutes after we got there.

So we got to spend the night at a lovely Red Roof Inn in Atlanta that had no Internet connectivity. And we got to Edinburgh 24 hours later, which threw off a lot of reservations.

I will only fly Delta if there is a Class 5 hurricane bearing down on me and it is the last flight out. Seriously, I don't know how they stay in business. Actually, I hear that's not going so well, either.

How about starting a blog about how much we all hate Delta? Probably take a bunch of servers to meet the demand.

Are there any Delta employees reading this blog?
Joe writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 9:35 PM
You forgot to mention
It is all John McCain's fault.

Seriously. Airline customer service is. . . not as good as it should be. While you speak highly of Jet Blue (I flew them once and was impressed)--I think they had another nightmare flight recently. And of course Continental had the incident of poop flowing down the center isle (I appologize for being so scatalogical, but since reading Tagg Romney's a boy and his dog story I cannot help myself).

People say European carriers are better. Their only advantage is they generally give you free movies and liquor. That is a big plus in light of delays and bad service, but that is about all they do better. Staff is very hit and miss on all airlines, with the exception of Singapore Air which is outstanding every time (I have flown them a half dozen times--which is not a huge representational standard, but they have been really really good).

Other than scary third world airlines and Aeroflot (where you seriously wonder if you are going to make it home), the worse is Olympic Airways. Actually that airline is scary and dirty and is a third world airline too.

Anyway, we feel your pain and are glad to have you back Dean. Glad Mrs. Soxblog made it too.
Brickle writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 9:34 PM
As a former Delta FA
I assure you, you have NO IDEA how badly Delta sucks.

Take the treatment you got yesterday. Imagine getting it 200 days per year. That's what it's like working for Delta.
richard mcenroe writes: Monday, July, 02, 2007 9:27 PM
Jet Blue?
Jet Blue held us hostage on the tarmac at JFK for over four and a half hours on June 19th.
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