Friday, January 12, 2007
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HamNation: Responding to the Democratic Response
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Posted by:
Mary Katharine Ham at
11:03 AM
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My HamNation producer was busy this week, so Townhall intern Katie Favazza and I cut loose with my digital camera and the editing software I found on my computer. I have new-found respect for YouTubers.
We thought we'd respond to the Democratic response to Bush's speech until we realized we could just let Democrats do it for us-- the Democrats of 6 months to a year ago, that is. Some of the quotes are a little long, so I apologize for that, but you'll get the gist.
Thanks to Ace for pointing out the new bubble toy. I tried to link these quotes in the video, but the software got a little wacky when I did that, so I'll link them here, in the order that they appear:
Here's the entire Durbin text. I did shorten it up a bit, so here's what I left out:
It's time for President Bush to face the reality of Iraq. And the reality is this: America has paid a heavy price. We have paid with the lives of more than 3,000 of our soldiers. We have paid with the sacrifice of our men and women in uniform. And we've paid with the hard-earned tax dollars of the families of America...
The government of Iraq must now prove that it will make the hard political decisions which will bring an end to this bloody civil war, disband the militias and death squads, create an environment of safety and opportunity for every Iraqi, and begin to restore the basics of electricity and water and health care that define the quality of life.
I'll get behind both of those sentiments.
Durbin's gulag quote.
Pelosi in '04.
CNN on poll numbers.
Harry Reid in '06.
Kerry in '05.
Biden in '05.
Silvestre Hayes in '06.
Dean in 2003.
Wrong war, wrong place, wrong time.
Kerry in '04.
Iraqi PM Iyad Jamal al-Din.
Milblogger T.F. Boggs in '06.
Feingold in '07.
Kennedy in '07.
George Bush in '07.
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I don't suppose it's occurred to you that something that might have been a good idea a year ago might not be a good idea now?
For example, it might have been a good idea to send more troops to Iraq in 2004, when the country hadn't been completely destroyed yet. Now that the country is literally in civil war, sending more of our own troops will do no good. Therefore, there is no contradiction in Pelosi's statements, and she's once again proven that she's serious about national security (by definition, someone like Pelosi who opposed this idiotic war is more serious about national security than someone who supported overthrowing a secular dictator who was no threat to us). |
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"literally in civil war" heh
The country is in a tough spot that is true, with secretarian violence skyrocketing and certain parts of the country and capital 'off-limits' due to militias. But unlike NBC, it's hard to call a civil war when less than 10% of the population is involved.
By definition... that's not a valid logical position snap, and you'll have to eat a lot of wheaties to say that Saddam was no threat to us. |
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And that's my groaner of the pun for the weekend.
Good job sans "professional" editing, seriously.
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... we're still looking for a daily Ham Nation vlog.
Atta girl, ladies! |
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Not bad. Not bad at all. Cute use of cartoon balloons. |
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Was that Frankj's book sitting on your desk? |
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Over three thousand solders dead, 10's of thousands wounded, many greviously, 100's of millions a day, approaching a 1/2 a trillion and mistake after mistake and lie after lie (or promise after promise that failed to be true) followed but what a 15% increase in troops. 15%!!! That's not even a good gratuity, tip at a restaurant.
Military Generals, top GOP leaders are against the SURGE. Part of this involves taking troops out of Afghanistan, another future sad mistake. Sadly the Dems don't have the stones to come out and say oppose it for their own political fortunes.
The girlish giggling at the end of the Video Ms. Ham says it all about your maturity and lack of seriousness. It's disrespectful to our nation, our troops and the seriousness of the matter that you giggle like school girls. I liked Pop-up videos in the 80's when that was new, but at least it was interesting. Your quotes where extreme non-sequiturs at best. At worst they make no sense and are just duplicitous pot-shots at democrats with references to Nazis, Soviet gulags and Pol Pot. Shame, propaganda is ugly not funny.
All these quotes are out of context and does nothing to CHANGE THE REALITY of this lame surge BULL.
I get it, YOU WILL AGREE AND DEFEND BUSH AND THE GOP NO MATTER WHAT. NO MATTER WHAT! There is not talking to you. No debate. I don't get mad at you Ms. Ham, because you are cute and I know you are just YOUNG and don't know any better. I guess you're trying to get a job on Fox news or date some guy on TV (according to you). You just need to get more mature and leave the political satire to the Pros.
These are serious issues for adults to discuss and have a national dialog. What you are doing is a waste of time. For the first time we are having a honest national debate verses the rubber stamp, no oversight and name calling of the last 4 years.
Why are there not any good Conservative/Republican satirist? I don't know? May to be a hard core right wing conservative partisan you can't have a sense of humor? Two reasons YOUR humor falls flat: It's main purpose is to hurt and its duplicitous (ie loose with the facts and context to deceive).
Ms. Ham, I AM SCARED and NOT laughing at what Bush said in his speech. We could HAVE a video with Pop-ups on G-dubs speech"
"WMD's"
"911 Alqaeda connection"
"Greeted as Liberators"
"Won't last 6 months"
"Paid with oil revenues"
"Last throes"
"Mission accomplished"
"Stay the course"
"New way forward"
"Surge and accelerate"
What is next?
HOLY S#*@, LET'S GET OUT OF HERE
Ms. Ham the day you put out something fair, funny and honest I'll sing your praise, but all you do is a poor copy of Shawn Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter acts. Why no shots at Republicans ever? Things are funny BECAUSE IT'S TRUE. Satire hiding lies and diverting attention from serious facts is not funny.
My thoughts and prayers are with our troops and nation. Bush has no credibility. In fact he's doing the opposite of what he has been told by everyone, again, despite his claims he's listening. I just hope the GOP gets their act together so we don't have an all DEM gov in 2008, which would be as disastrous as the all GOP gov we suffered the last 6 years. Yea for the two party system and HONEST debate with facts not surrender monkey bull comments. |
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"I don't get mad at you Ms. Ham, because you are cute and I know you are just YOUNG and don't know any better. I guess you're trying to get a job on Fox news or date some guy on TV (according to you). You just need to get more mature and leave the political satire to the Pros.
These are serious issues for adults to discuss and have a national dialog. What you are doing is a waste of time. "
Are we just supposed to shut up and listen to the baby boomers, the single worst generation in American history? The so-called "adults" who form the majority in Congress right now do not have either the wisdom or the mental balance to run something as serious as the Iraq war.
I'm even younger than MKH (I'm graduating from high school this year), and I think your suggestion that I should only allow the older folks run the political scene is ridiculous. The ideas of your generation have been disastrous for this country, and us young folks have been forced to pay the price for your mistakes. |
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Jetpilot,
My friend, it's obvious you have an addiction to HamNation because you keep coming back---just like the rest of us do.
I bet you'll even compete to be first in line to purchase an autographed DVD copy of "HamNation: The Complete First Season" upon its release.
(and just what does 'Mrs. Jetpilot' think about all of this, hmmm ?)
Every few weeks, you post a 1,000 word screed attacking Mary Katharine in, gasp, CAPITAL LETTERS(!)---often referring to her looks & age, and now, you're stuck on the fact that she once mentioned in an episode of HamNation that she thinks one of the Fox News anchors is handsome.
I'm surprised you didn't rant about the portrait of the 'evil' Manning brothers, which sits on her desk in plain view.
Unfortunately, it does sound like you misinterpret the "pop-up" comments which accomodate Dick Durbin's speech.
Those were actual comments once spoken by the properly attributed persons.
The comment about Nazis, Soviet gulags, and Pol Pot which you feel is "propaganda" and a "pot-shot" is actually a comment spoken by Senator Dick Durbin himself in 2005.
We on the right wing agree with you...it was an ugly statement, and that is why it is necessary to highlight that the esteemed senior Senator from Illinois once spoke it.
Jetpilot, it's a free country, and there's no law stating you can't write anonymous angry comments about attractive journalists who are probably half your age.
But if your point is that as an older mature person, you have lessons about civility, maturity, wisdom, & humor to share with those of us who are younger than you---well, I admit the 'subtlety' of your instruction discreetly embedded in your posts is simply way over my head.
But then again, as a pilot, you're inevitably gonna be flying 'over our heads,' eh ?
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don't believe I have ever seen it done with condecenscion...
But, then again, you with your vast wisdom and life experience probably already knew that. If that's the case, it wouldn't explain why you'd choose that method. If you're not a liberal, you surely do a great impression of one.
Oh, and Dennis Miller is a conservative satirist. And a pretty darn good one. |
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I can most certainly appreciate your pain young man. I grew up in the 1970's with Jimmy Carter as President. You have absolutely no idea what kind of idiot he was. You think it's bad now....hahahahaha. Sorry. This baby boomer doesn't agree with you. I don't totally agree with the republicans or the democrats either. But to say it's worse now that it has ever been.....not reality. Sorry. |
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Aren't the young republicans darling? Bush lovers through and through and in a constant state of denial just like their hero no less.
Ms. Ham, I'd love to know your PayPal account so I can paypal you a couple of bucks so you and your friends can buy a clue. |
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Stroms daughter, question: which hurt worse getting caught trying to steal 2 presidential elections or knowing your mother was pro-life? |
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Your decision to quote T. F. Boggs doesn't make sense in the company of those other quotations. Mr. Boggs is head and shoulders above those other individuals in character and common sense, and is supportive of our efforts in Iraq. I don't think you should have included him with those other individuals. |
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Finally able to get the video to load.
Glad I missed the Durbin response.
The Iraqi military is not capable of standing up to the militias at the moment. Asking them to do so is nothing more than an admission of failure.
Sen Lieberman has succintly pointed out that there are two exit strategies in any war: victory and defeat. |
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Jeepers! I thought the moonbats congregated around Ann Coulter's columns, but they're even more vicious and loony here. It's hilarious that they don't bother to argue coherently against specific points we make, but instead go straight to the mud. Somebody please give jetpilot a Valium.
Snapdigger:
If it's such a good point that we needed more troops a year ago but not now, then why haven't the Democratic politicians and pundits been pushing that argument? I mean, here's a glaring contradiction by leaders of the Democratic Party, yet they make no serious effort to try to explain it away with your argument. (Funny thing is, you never supported it with any facts or reasoning. "Completely destroyed"? Then how has Iraq managed to increase it's GDP by 17% in 2005 and a projected 13% in 2006?) Either you're smarter than the collective leadership of your party, or they have intentionally declined to use such an excuse, probably because it would only make them look more foolish. The violence has been more or less steady over the last year, and it isn't anywhere near the level we've seen in any civil war in history. Simply throwing your arms up in exasperation and claiming that there's a civil war does not make it so. Follow these links for some enlightening comparisons of verifiable statistics regarding Iraq:
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/016052.php
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/015057.php
http://powerlineblog.com/archives/014502.php
Can anyone else articulate exactly what is so different about Iraq today than it was when various Democrats were (insincerely) beating the war drum and demanding reinforcements for our troops?
Given the condescension you exhibited in your opening remark, I wouldn't expect to have to explain President Bush's strategy to you. No, not "the surge," the political strategy. Troop levels have been increased and decreased over the last four years, and in fact we've drawn down our forces by about 15,000 over the last year, so adding another 20,000 is neither the real story nor the real military strategy. Bush used that mainly to appease certain politicians, like John McCain, who were calling for more troops, and the average American who is content to consume a few sound bites of news every day. The real change is in the rules of engagement that will (supposedly) allow our forces to go after anyone, anywhere, if they cause trouble. This goes hand in hand with the revised plan to section off Baghdad and station our troops there 24/7. This addresses the main concern that many conservatives have had: we were trying to fight a nice war that didn't offend anyone.
Mary Katharine and Katie:
Nice work. Next time, though, please make the bubbles a little more legible than white text on turquoise background. I could read only about half of the quotes. |
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