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Can you say, "Jamie Lynn Spears"?
I'm pregnant, I'm keeping my baby and I'm marrying my baby's daddy?
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That surely puts to rest those who claim Bristol was the mother of Trig. Shame on those people, and a pox on their houses!
I think the lefties had better be careful about their scorn-heaping! Do they know how many families this has happened to? At least the Palins did not pressure her to abort to avoid "embarrassment." Let's just see how tolerant the left really is. |
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"Do they know how many families this has happened to?"
And isn't it usually seen as the result of bad parenting? |
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Democrats are so evil, they will pounce on this to ruthlessly and shamelessly attack Sarah Palin, her daughter Bristol, John McCain and Cindy too. They will brutalize a teenage girl.
In the process, democrats will offend many women across the country. Every single woman who has ever had an unexpected pregnancy, or knows someone who has had one, will feel sympathy for this teenage girl, and be grateful for the love and support she gets from her family.
Democrats will continue to offend women, and drive them away from Obama. Good job!
McCain/Palin 2008
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The last thing we need to do is elevate or condone teen/out of wedlock pregnancy on a national stage. McCain knew about this before he asked Gov. Palin to be VP. Did he think it wouldn't come out? |
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Are you kidding Bob Munck? Do you have children? Do you realize that people who are 17 years old have the ability to make their own choices? Children of some of the most outstanding people I know have gotten pregnant. Where the quality of the parent comes through is how they react to the situation.
I have no doubt the left will also show their true quality as they heap attack after attack on a teenage girl who is faced with the most difficult situation of her young life. |
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...the Palins or the McCains prior to the announcement, this is just wacked...to draw this poor girl into an international media circus.
I am a Romney supporter. Would have loved Jindal. Thought Pawlenty would be OK: no story or circus.
Sadly, this goes totally against the Palin meme: Christian family values, and will feed the story that the Palin is an irresponsible risk taker.
A lot of people have sexually active teens,-- who use birth control or get abortions. But the fact is, this tarnishes the Palin brand.
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"This will probably be beneficial"
Are you kidding me??? I can't believe what I am reading. We are NOT Democrats! It will do us no good to try and act like them just to attract votes. We will end up losing the Republican vote. |
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"Democrats are so evil, they will pounce on this to ruthlessly and shamelessly attack Sarah Palin, her daughter Bristol, John McCain and Cindy too."
One of the big selling points for Palin is that she's been such a wonderful mother. Apparently not.
No one's going to attack the daughter; she's just a teenager, who probably wasn't given complete information about sex and contraception. On the other hand, how about her wonderful father, also supposedly an outstanding parent? Cindy McCain gets a bye also; we can't fault her for not stealing birth-control drugs for the daughter six months ago. John McCain, of course, gets the blame for making such a dunderheaded VP selection. |
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Maybe that is what YOU think, but where I come from I have seen it happen in all kinds of families.
YOU may judge all parents who have or have had pregnant teens as bad parents, but that is not how I roll.
My best friend and her husband are wonderful parents. They were fully involved in both their daughter's lives, and their daughters had all of the advantages that kids in middle class families have. Yet, both girls became pregnant before marrying. This happens in the best of families as well as the worst.
When the left claims this is a result of bad parenting--they leave themselves open to the wrath of millions of parents who have had this happen in their own families.
It is as I said--the left is tolerant of these things in theory, but let it happen in reality (or to the wrong party especially) and your hypocricy comes shining like the sun. |
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and although it would be ideal to not have any children conceived by unwed mothers---it is in fact, a reality that it happens DAILY! Bristol is in love with that father, is planning to marry him, and should not be demonized for this, and neither should her parents who are fine people. A little secret for you.....sh! (I was pregnant with my first child before I married my husband 49 years ago.) We went on to have 4 more, are still married today, and couldn't be happier. And...our children are all well-adjusted, people who are law-abiding, tax-paying, upstanding pillars of the community. What's the big deal here? |
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ICHTA: It can happen to anyone.
Clearly Bristol Palin made a mistake, and now has a lot more responsibility than she had bargained for. Is that the result of bad parenting, or that just the result of the Palin's family just not being the perfect family, as none of us are perfect? The response to the pregnancy--love, support and wise counsel--suggests the latter. |
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Its not about her being pregnant, its about hypocrisy...Period. Just like Reverend Haggard, you lobby for anti-gay rights and then turn around you are a closet gay....How can you tell me or us what to do when you do it. And as soon as we point it out...shame on lefties...we are so tired of the line...GO OBAMA |
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How many women do you know today who are still virgins when they marry? It would be nice if more were, but it is what it is. Get with the program. |
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Those of you saying this condones teen-age pregnancy--how so? How does choosing a woman as your running mate-a woman who is highly qualified for the job; a woman who brings much to the ticket-condone teen-age pregnancy?
Are you suggesting we go back to the days where teen-agers who became pregnant were locked away or hidden?
As far as I know, the Palin's are going to do what good parents do in this situation. They are going to stand behind their daughter and love and support her.
I have a feeling Bristol is not going to be one of those welfare mothers, so I fail to see the problem here. It is really none of our business since they are not expecting us to pay for Bristol's nor the baby's support. |
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"Maybe that is what YOU think"
I actually DON'T think that; a 17-year-old is, in my eyes if not legally, more than old enough to make her own decisions.
However, there are a huge number of "family-values" voters who do think that way. Palin was chosen in large part to appeal to them and other religious fanatics in the "base." How many of them will this lose? |
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What is your point. Don't tell me it is hypocrisy either. Explain exactly what you mean instead of rambling about homosexuality. |
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dress with the infamous "spot" to overcome if they want to cast stones.
The first time this is EVER brought up by the Obama or his surrogates will show just how "small town" America will respond.
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Conservatives can't get away with this behavior. We are the "Moral Majority," whom the Left loves to hate--and loves to catch in a hypocritical moment.
Your personal situation may have turned turned out great, but has nothing to do with politics.
I believe this will be a political disaster. Shame on Palin for accepting this nomination if she knew. What mother does this to her daughter?
If Palin is as good as they claim, she had a future a la Jindal. Her daughter could have quietly married and in the future, no one would care.
But in the middle of the Palin media circus, this comes out? That poor, poor girl.
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according to the One she has plenty of time even up to her third trimester to kill the baby,so what is everyone so upset over. |
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Laura writes:
Sarah - CHILL! It's a fact of life
Yes, yes I know. I just didn't expect something this from our own Republican VP candidate. |
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"Can anyone even imagine the outcry had Chelsea Clinton been treated this way?"
Like, for example, the reaction to McCain's crude "joke" about 13-year-old Chelsea?
That was your presidential candidate saying that, in front of a large audience. |
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and was unwed, do you think it would be right to hang her out to dry? To demonize her for being human? And would you think anyone had the right to label YOU as a bad parent? Are you and your daughter PERFECT? Think before you answer that, as the bible says: NO ONE IS PERFECT!
Don't you realize that young people, more often than not, engage in sexual activities before marriage these days? It would be nice if they waited for marriage, but it is also human nature when you're in love. And hasn't it always been done all down through time to a certain extent?
Bristol is going to marry the father of her baby. AND WHAT 'SHE' DOES IS NONE OF ANYONE'S BUSINESS! Remember...SHE is not Mc Cain's running mate, her mother Sarah is, and Sarah will do her job well as she has done her job as Governor of Alaska.
Sarah and her husband Todd will do as most loving parents do; they will love, protect and stand by their daughter. Wouldn't you? |
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It happens. But she is marrying the father and having the baby. It is a big deal for these young parents who will have to rise to the occasion and to their new responsibilities, but that is not a scandal for Palin. |
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First, Bristol's pregnancy (along with the picture in an earlier post) makes it quite clear that she's not Trig's mother.
Second, there are very few conservatives today (if there ever were) who would blame the parents for their teenage daughter's pregnancy - especially when she is 17 and planning to get married. These days, it's the liberals who tend to blame the parents - for "not giving her enough information" to keep herself from getting pregnant - as if it's fine for 17-year-olds to sleep with people as long as they use contraception!
Third, Sarah Palin is guilty of no hypocrisy; in fact, her actions prove exactly the opposite. She believes people ought to make the choice about whether they're going to have a baby BEFORE they sleep with someone - meaning if they don't want the baby, they don't get physically involved with the person. Once a person is pregnant, the choice has already been made, and she does not believe in murdering the baby simply because the parents don't want to face the consequences of sleeping together. In both her own life and her daughter's, she is showing that she lives by what she says. She is no hypocrite.
Can we now PLEASE leave the Palin's children ALONE???!!! (Imagine the reaction if similar comments had been made about the Obamas' children!) |
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Part of being a religious person is living by the scriptures. Even Mary was an unwed mother! And don't forget: Judge not lest ye be judged.
The Palin's don't need to worry about Conservatives Judging them! They need to worry about the libs reveling in what libs will call "hypocrisy."
No parents are responsible (even by law) for the actions of a 17yr old. You raise them and hope they don't suffer heartbreak, but you CANNOT control their actions!
This wouldn't be an issue for obama or other libs, because their kids' pregnancies wouldn't survive the abortion.
I think this will just make the Palin's EVEN MORE LIKE ME!!!! God knows I understand having a loveable 17 year old in the house. It's like trying to hold the wind.... |
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I am in total disagreement with Bob and KG. I think both are really just being mean-spirited and hyper-critical. I don't think a huge majority of Americans are that judgmental.
I think Munck is actually thinking in caricature here. Many in the "base" have had this happen in their own families or they are close to people who have had it happen.
KG, the left will rant and scream and whine, but it will only alienate people who might have voted for them. Those on the right who won't vote for McCain just because of this are obviously not the kind of people we need in the party anyway. I do not remember the right ever claiming they were perfect (that is a left thing--they SAY we claim it even though they know it is not true), we are all flawed individuals. If people want perfection, they will be waiting for a LONG time for it.
I say the nation needs to grow up and quit worrying about side issues like this. The Palins have a situation that they seem to be handling beautifully. The rest of us should back off and mind our own business. |
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Your smug and smarmy opening comment "IOKIYAR" represents more leftie fuzzy logic.
Teen pregnancy isn't "okay" for ANYONE. It's complicated, heart-wrenching, agonizing and "messy" for any caring family, regardless of their politics. Notice I said CARING family. That does not automatically disqualify liberals.
I know from experience within my own family that even those who are "pro-choice" often find trying to decide which "choice" to make an exercise in agony.
What's chilling is that some believe it's "okay" to allow a young girl to weigh the options and make that agonizing decision without guidance from anyone who loves her and cares what happens to her, both physically and emotionally. |
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K.G. is not mean-spirited. I know her well enough to know that for sure. Munck has never had a positive thing to say in these threads.
Yes, it's disappointing that this has happened, but now that it has, the real issue is what will they do about it. If I understand correctly, the daughter will marry the father and raise the child.....what used to be called, "the right thing."
If this was a Biden daughter, or a daughter of the Kenyan, the child would be hacked to pieces before it had a chance to draw a breath.
Which is the "moral party" again....? |
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aimed at the media, of all things. This is not a viable story, Carol - is that what you're insinuating? Boy, I'm guessing you would LOVE for this one to crawl back under the rug, now wouldn't you? But the truth is, as much as Edwards' affair is news, SO IS THIS. This incident with Palin's daughter goes directly against the grain of EVERY voter who's been admonished by the Right on issues of abstinence only and teenage pregnancy. It goes directly to the parenting skills of Palin, since much of the admonishing from the right is aimed at poor parenting and loose morals. Well, there you go - AND Palin smoked pot for recreation AND inhaled.
Poor McCain - let's call it Hurricane Sarah. |
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I am outraged. Not because I don't understand teens and am not unsymapthetic to the situation. Happens all the time.
I am outraged politically. This will hurt the Pubs politically. I don't give a ratz behind about the Palins (politically; personally I wish them well.)
I know it's not rational, but this plays into irrational assumptions. Already, they are painting Mack and senile and Palin as reckless.
One of the indictments against Pubs is recklessness. The Iraq War, Mack saying he'll go to the gates of hell to get Osama, Bush saying: Bring it on.
One of the indictments against Christian conservative parents is they have their heads in the sand. Wake up and get the kid some birth control, the libs say.
Now, this girl, living under your own roof, is FIVE months pregnant and you didn't know it? Too busy running around Alaska to notice?
Doesn't look good---politically. Puts everyone on the defensive. Mack and Cindy are already on the defensive with Palin--now this? |
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Munck's right - based on TH logic, there's nothing to see here, move along! Or, IOKIYAR.
BUT IT'S NOT OK. You on the Right went after Edwards with a rabid abandon and HE wasn't even running. You went after Clinton for his personal indiscretion while Gingrich got a free pass. You went after every Dem for every sexual misconduct, yet find nothing wrong with McCain's adultery.
Now this pie in your face mess from the "Barracuda". Heh. SERVES YOU RIGHT. |
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"Your smug and smarmy opening comment "IOKIYAR" represents more leftie fuzzy logic."
It's not my logic. IOKIYAR refers to the observed fact that republicans always seem to come up with some logic or excuse that makes the behavior in question acceptable and even admirable, but only if it's a republican.
Half of the posts in this thread are essentially saying that: it's a fact of life; she's not going to go on welfare; everybody does it; and it's ok if you are a loving family (and, of course If You Are A Republican).
Think about what went through that teenager's mind when she was told that her mother was running for vice president. The utter horror of knowing that the entire country would be talking about her condition.
What kind of a mother would do this to her daughter, solely to further her own political ambitions? |
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hypocracy would have been having her get an abortion . after all only libs are in favor of the death penalty for the crime of inconvenience!! |
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Laura writes:
"Sarah, If YOUR daughter became pregnant.
and was unwed, do you think it would be right to hang her out to dry? To demonize her for being human? And would you think anyone had the right to label YOU as a bad parent? Are you and your daughter PERFECT? Think before you answer that, as the bible says: NO ONE IS PERFECT!"
No, I am not claiming I am PERFECT. I would have done exactly what Gov. Palin and her husband are doing with one difference. I would have put my family and party first and DECLINED Sen. McCain's VP offer. I am sure it is hard enough to be a teenager and pregnant but now add the spotlight of the national media. Whether you agree or not Gov. Palin and Sen. McCain have put the party in a peculiar situation.
Look, we were having a hard enough time this election year. Sen. McCain was not my first choice but here we are. There was no need to make it any harder than it had to be.
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I am an uber-conservative that wants to win, you fool!!!! You don't win wars by deliberately handing your ammunition over to the enemy.
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Dammit! Doesn't she know she is supposed to abort the kid? But then that what Liberals do. I'm still first in line to vote McCain/Palin. |
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Hypocrisy is the "family values" Party trying to tell us that abstinence only is the be-all, end-all in eliminating teen pregnancy, and then giving us a barely vetted VP choice who's daughter suddenly turns up unwed and preggers. It goes against the RW noise machine's antipathy towards Liberal's so-called loose values and inability to properly guide our children. Here we've got McCain's running mate in less than a week telling us she smoked pot and INHALED, and now has an unwed teen daughter who is pregnant.
Set aside for a moment that there is a very real possibility that this same daughter gave birth to the Down's baby. This is private family stuff - or should be. But the truth is that the Rove-led GOP/RW and it's "moral values" bloviator parrots have made this kind of indiscretion the focus of their campaigns and smears against their opponents.
I'd say that the hens have all come home to roost at this point in GOP history. What we have here is the perfect storm of messes all hitting the McCain campaign with the force of a hurricane - and speaking of which, Gustav's timely landfall reminds us of what a failure the Republican Party has been for this country time and again - in case we have forgotten. God works in mysterious ways, eh Mr. Dobson? |
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On a personal note: "However I may dislike the horrid thought of Obamba being elected to the White House as President, I first was for Hilliary, then to McCain. But with McCain's choice of VP (Sarah Palin) I can no longer support him for Presidency. As much as I detest Obamba being President, I'm sorry to say I will have to vote for him and hope for the best. I hope you will do the same, and maybe animal rights will be preserved. Thank you." Oh, just in case you don't know Palin's background regarding wild life and preserving the natural beauty of Alaska, she, as governor has used $400,000 for deceitful advertising to allow the killing of wolves from the air and is wanting to do the same for the magnificent polar bears, other wild life and allowing oil companies to destroy the beauty of Alaska. Animals would have no safety or rights with her in the White House. |
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I believe Palin should withdraw. Let McCain choose a more suitable running mate. Palin has responsibilities to her family and to our country that are not served by running for Vice President of the United States. |
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it will be a damper on the McCain campaign, but mainly because the dems will make it so, (even though that type of behavior doesn't bother them anyway unless it was done by a conservative.) conservatives will not like it, but I hope would have the compassion and understanding to be able to deal with it without allowing it to effect the campaign, as it, itself actually has nothing whatsoever to do with politics. |
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Isn't it time for you McCain Naysayers to move out of your mom's basement? Maybe get a job? Trim your nosehairs? |
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You and I no doubt disagree politically, but I can't disagree with much of your 2:00 p.m.
What the final political fall-out will be, we will see.
But what tinned-eared politican thought this was a good idea? |
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I forgot to mention that Sarah Palin is a babe. A gun toting, 'Ted Nugent Conservative' babe. She loves God, Guns and Babies. And now she is honest enough to not try to hide her daughter's pregnancy.
I can't wait to vote for this ticket and then to vote for her in 2012. I'm not afraid of powerful women. Especially when they look like her! |
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"Set aside for a moment that there is a very real possibility that this same daughter gave birth to the Down's baby."
Given that the daughter is five months pregnant and the baby was born four months ago, that possibility is extremely small. I've never heard of a case of overlapping pregnancies. |
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"We’re proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby ..." - it is good to see that Sarah Palin is now pro-choice. Pretty soon, she will really be a true replacement for Hillary. |
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Does anyone know the age of consent in Alaska? |
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How come Mrs. palin did not look Pregnant in her Pictures? |
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please post it here. All of you who have not had daughters who become pregnant before they were married, please post it here.
To judge Sarah Palin because her daughter is obviously in love and acted irresponsibly, getting herself pregnant is outrageous.
Now I will admit that it won't play well with the success of the campaign, and the Dems will make it a top priority, trying to unseat Mc Cain, but if we conservatives stick together and do not allow it to have that much impact - we can help make it go away. Please, do not feed it. NO ONE is worse than Barack Hussein DICTATOR-WANNABE Obama-----NO ONE! |
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Old pics of Mrs Palin show a lot of weight gain during other pregnancies, but the most recent did Not? |
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Do you mean consent for an abortion? |
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Some women wear it well. Some go through the third trimester and don't show much.
But, Virginia, Palin should not withdrawal, her Daughter's boyfriend should have done that a long time ago!
A 44 year old Grandmother as Vice President and with those gams! Hot Damn! |
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Would like to know what the Hell is going on here? If I am going to vote Republican, I want answers about everything. There has been to much Silence about this trip from Texas all the way to alaska after Mrs. Palin went into Labor?.. |
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Abortion? You have to be out of your mind..I am talking about consent to sex in the state of Alaska, HOW OLD YOU MUST BE?...To many Questions un answered..I want answers |
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Bristol Palin being 5 months pregnanat would solve the issue of Sarah Palins baby Trig being that of her daughter Bristol. However I have not seen a picture of Sarah pregnant yet. I don't know to many women that keep thier pregnancy that hidden and silent for so long, exspecially knowing that she was a down syndrome baby. Women that are concerned about thier babies do not go flying around the country and give speeches so close to thier due dates. Has Bristol had an ultrsound because she would be far enough along to have one and it would tell if she was 5 months pregnant. If Sarah Palin baby is really her grandson the Democratic Party did not tell her to claim this in April. People from her own state printed the information. The question is not Bristol or the Democratic Party it is Sarah Palin and whether or not she has been truthful! |
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...without understanding the context. Read my post again.
BTW "Free passes" are a perk the Left enjoys far more often than the Right. MOST Republicans who disgrace themselves are either gone immediately or no later than the following election cycle, while Democrats hang around basking in the glow of "unconditional love" from their constituents. Does the establishment media "go after" them? No. Do they pounce on any breath of "scandal" from the Right side of the spectrum? You bet.
BTW2 If by McCain's "adultery", you mean his relationship with Cindy, you need to check your facts. Was his behavior less than stellar? Absolutely. Was it "adulterous". No it was not. And HE wasn't already in the Whitehouse, acting like a horny schoolboy with his pants around his knees in the Oval Office either. Clinton WAS (no doubt still is) an adulterer. Worse than that, he's a liar so arrogant he figured his privilege would protect him. |
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I sure don't want McCain and Palin setting the values for my family. McCain left his disabled wife and three children to marry his mistress and Palin's 17 year old daughter is unmarried and pregnant.
Thanks but no thanks on those family values. What hypocrites they are.
And then there's Palin's "executive" experience - Mayor of Wasilla. Oh please. What a joke. And while I respect McCain's service to his country, it doesn't make him qualified to be President.
I know how many houses I own, too. McSame is way out of touch. I love my country too much to let the next four years be like the last eight. |
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It could be that Bristol is not at all pregnant and that she is about to have a virtual miscarrage. That would take care of the timeline with the issue of the Gov's pregnancy. It would justify why she looks like she just had a baby. This would give Gov. Palin a good family value reason to back out of the VP spot so she can go home and take care of Bristol and her 4 month old grand son Trig. Oops, I mean son Trig. Regardless she will retain her family values and still be available for the GOP in the future. All is fixed and all is well |
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That is what I need to know...I am really confused...I was listening to Beck one night and he was pushing Palin as VP..I checked her out on the Gov. website and i decided I liked what she has done. But right now all I want is answers..My biggest question is ..why she did not look 7 months Pregnant in her Pictures while in Texas at the Govorners Meeting? |
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Leave personal matters out of this. This situation can happen in ANY American family ANYWHERE! I find it more appalling to hear a candidate's wife say she had just recently become proud to be an American. That is someone I don't want to see step foot on the White House lawn. |
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And states that anyone who tries to make it an issue will be fired. Good for him. But of course it won't stop his surrogates or the Obamedia. |
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She got to "choose" to have the baby. Isn't it nice she has that freedom? Perhaps if it were a case of rape or incest, then because mom is so anti-choice, she would have not had a choice. Guess mom had better support her to save Republican/conservative face.
Encourage a 17yo to get married cause of pregnancy. What a wonderful way to uphold the ideal of marriage, and contribute to the national divorce rate at the same time. That's a great thing to do.
McCain picked a real winner. |
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All pics of Bristol were removed at the Family Picnic in Alaska..They were removed from the Alaska Gov. Page? I know this for a fact because I was looking at them and reading up On Mrs Palins Biography... |
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This is Personal..Its My vote ! |
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"BTW "Free passes" are a perk the Left enjoys far more often than the Right."
But in many cases the acts they're getting a "free pass" for are things that we don't disapprove of. I have no problem with Larry Craig being a homosexual or David Vitter soliciting prostitution.
"BTW2 If by McCain's "adultery", you mean his relationship with Cindy, you need to check your facts. Was his behavior less than stellar? Absolutely. Was it "adulterous". No it was not."
I haven't said anything about "McCain's adultery" in this thread but I'm curious how you come to that conclusion. John McCain did have sex with Cindy Lou Hensley while he was married to Carol Shepp McCain; he has said so. How is that not adultery? |
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...pictures, we need to see Obama's legit birth certificate. That Dem in Philly has filed suit to find out where Obama was actually born and is he a natural born citizenship.
Some are saying that African relatives remember Stanley Ann in Africa too pregnant to get on a plane back to the US--and giving birth in Africa. There are claims there are birth affidavits in Africa.
Apparently there is some crazy law that even if one parent is a US citizen, he/she has to be over 18 for the baby to be a natural-born citizen, as required by the constitution.
Also, Stanley Ann also revoked Obama's citizenship in favor of Indonesian citizenship when Barack was legally adopted by Lolo and became Barry Soetero.
Has he gone thru the process to reinstate his citizenship?
Fight soap opera with soap opera.
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Thats discusting Magic..I did not figure I would get crap like that in this place...go away |
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Legititmate source from a newspaper in Alaska states that Levi Billings, the father of Bristol Palins baby is a 22 year old african american from ancokorage whose family is living there while his father is employed on a pipeline.Why is the 17 yr old planning to marry and not already married before giving birth? Levi's parents are against marriage. |
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Let's see:
If Chelsea Clinton had gotten pregnant at 17, out of wedlock, you righties would have been all over it. You would have used it as a cause celeb for your trumpeted and discredited abstinence only programs and you would have pilloried the Clintons for being bad parents.
I view Bristol as no better than Jamie Lynn Spears and her parents as no better than Jamie's. Maybe worse, because at least Jamie's parents let her make the decision to keep the baby. Does anyone really believe that Sarah (if a 12 year-old is raped by her father and becomes pregnant, we should force her to deliver) Palin would allow her 17 year-old to have an abortion? |
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"What's truly disgusting is that this news had to made public at this time and in this way because of disgraceful, crazy rumor-mongering on the part of some lefties."
Perhaps if the Palins had been honest and forthcoming about this information at any time in the past 5 months, the information wouldn't have come out like this.
Just a hunch but I'd guess that if Palin hadn't been named the VP candidate, the family never would have made this public, Bristol would've given the kid up for adoption and both teens could've gone about living their lives instead of being forced into marriage to save the Governor's VP aspirations.
So glad to see that abstinence only education is working out so well in Alaska. |
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I am a Conservative, and I DO NOT expect contradictions from my politicians, NOT after 8 years of Mr. Bush............ HONESTY and having your actions speak for themselves is very important for a politician to get my vote. ......... Sorry Mr McCain, in trying to be clever you just lost my family of about 34 registered voters in NJ votes.
I am sick of all this nonsense. It's time to hold our politicians to a higher standard and NOT be so forgiving, . . I truly am sorry. |
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To the conservatives and their usual cognitive dissonance, the so-called rumors about Palin, Bristol, etc. have been bubbling in Alaska for months where she is very popular. These rumors have NOT been started by Obama, and with today’s announcement we can see that concerns have been well founded.
We know Palin was not fully vetted by McCain – How could they claim to have done so when he only began to consider her a month ago and had only be in contact with her twice. I doubt they knew about the pregnancy, because even they admit they did not look at Palin’s family – just her (if that). If McCain did know, I suppose with all the infidelity and cover-up in his past, this would seem trivial to him.
If nothing else, it shows poor judgment and how out-of-touch McCain is. He thought he was being so clever picking an unknown from a small town. McCain/Palin are only releasing this information now because of mounting concerns about Palin and because it is a slow-news holiday and people are preoccupied with Hurricane Gustav.
When candidates seek to hold the highest office in the land, people expect them to be good examples for our country and the world. That is why Bill Clinton was attacked. It is such a hypocrisy for the Republicans and in particular Evangelicals to say that a pregnancy out-of-wedlock is a private matter, or for Palin--who is against birth control and who favors abstinence only--to ignore the problem of teen pregnancy when it happens in her own home.
That Palin’s daughter Bristol is pregnant (supposedly 5 months) only supports rumors that this girl is a “Preacher’s Wild Child” who may have been pregnant out-of-wedlock before. Only this time (if it is true about Trig), Palin knows they can’ try for another cover up. If this blows up in McCain’s face, it is better that Americans see them for who they really are now.
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As every woman knows...you must keep your own house in order.
Sarah Palin's daughter, Bristol is a child fornicator and it has been endorsed by her mother.
This flys in the face of Dr. James Dobson's Focus on the Family Doctrine: Babies Come from God — They Should Be the Result Only of Marital Love. In their words: "Sexuality is a glorious gift from God to be offered back to Him either in marriage for procreation, union and mutual delight or in celibacy for undivided devotion to Christ. "
She is claiming to be the champion of Evangelism - "Palin Pick Causes 'Elation' among Evangelical Leaders" (http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/435468.aspx) ...."conservative Evangelical leaders know all about her and think the World of her. They like her. She has been involved and active with many Christian organizations." |
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After all the bluster and political fighting about this, it will boil down to one point - Palin was a poor choice by McCain. He went against established choices (what about Kay Bailey Hutchinson if we were going to have a woman????!!!) and as such Palin needed to be spotless. She isn't, by a long shot. |
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Check out the definition of "hypocrite" though, before you pronounce judgment on others. McCain has never denied nor self-righteously defended himself against his critics on the matter of his divorce and remarriage. Nor did he "abandon" his children simply by divorcing their mother. You are, in effect, accusing EVERY divorced father of kicking their children to the curb with this statement.
What is it that makes Sarah Palin "hypocritical" in your view? Has she hidden anything from us? Made statements that run counter to what her family represents?
The sources of hypocrisy I see are from the left who seem to have no problem with the sexualization of every aspect of our culture, yet smugly denounce the mother of a pregnant teenager; and from the extreme right who see this as an excuse to make Governor Palin's gender an issue. |
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Maybe Sarah should stay at home,take care of her kids and teach them about the birds, bees and birth control so no more shenanigans like this happen. Obviously the family-work balance was thrown off-keel somewhere along the line.
Poor McCain....sometimes those are the breaks in being a "MAVERICK". |
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McCain made it a gender issue when he selected an inexperienced woman just because she is a woman. |
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CLASSIC!
I for one couldn't be happier that she didn't teach her daughter about birth control. Oh that's right you shouldn't need to because sex outside of marriage is a sin. Maybe they can use her purity ring as the wedding ring!
She can't even manage her own family, let alone the country.
This is the biggest joke i have ever seen and all you creationist, gun toting ideologues, deserve every bit of it. |
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forthcoming...Gov Palin was not forthcomming..as a Gov she didnt talk about her teen dauther pregnancy...Palin admitted about her daughter shameful pregnancy afer rumors on the internet were all over the web...and after Palin got the VP nomination...
but the point is: teen dauther pregnancy and family republican higher moral values.. now where are the moral values? palin as a mother failed to educate her daughter prevent pregnancy...
if palin can not be trusted with her family how can she be trsuted as a VP or maybe as a president????
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...lose or gain votes for Mack?
Mack won the primaries in the middle. Palin's nomination secured the right. The Christian Right will close ranks; I believe the pregnancy will gain more support from the Right.
The left will respond with smugness of the first order. It will solidify them against, as they see it, the head-in-the-sand right.
How will Mack's center respond to this news? It probably won't matter to them; they are not hardcore true believers either way.
What will hurt the Palin candidacy is if she is proven to be something different than Mack claims her to be.
That's what's killing Obama. He's just another phony--and an inexperienced one at that. If Palin is shown to be a phony, she's dead. |
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I understand that this is a political campaign and that we are choosing the next leader of the free world, but why is there so much anger here? Don't the scriptures teach us all to do our best to live together in harmony?
I know a lot of happy people (and sad, angry people) in both parties, and to heap everyone in one party into one big group is ludicrous.
Why does each side always have to demonize the other? What is the point, and where will this ever get either party? Many of you act like you are God with all of your judgment flying back and forth. Well wake up, YOU'RE NOT GOD. Judgment day will come, so for that I'd pay attention to who you're judging today, whether it be Palin, her daughter, liberals, republicans, McCain, or anyone else for that matter.
Go do something enjoyable right now. I promise you'll feel better. |
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shame on you republicans, your family values are low, your conservatism must be ket to yourselves. We had it with you and your trash. zip it up and i hope i will never have to hear from you. GO OBAMA my hero. |
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The long election cycle should have given one advantage: the opportunity for everything to come out and for the voters to digest it.
Many Dems must be suffering from buyer's remorse since the dye was cast FOR Obama before all the Wright/Pleger/Ayers/anti-Americanism caca came out.
After the initial euphoria, Barack was shown to be a phony. Not a bad guy, but not what he was touted to be.
Mack has raised enormous expectations for Palin. There was immediate euphoria because of her unassailable courage and character. If she is shown to have clay feet, she's toast.
Time, tho short, will tell.
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We are not God; we are voters. We have an obligation to ourselves and our country to make the best choice among mortal men and women--who on both sides of the aisle attempt to deceive the voters into voting for them.
Digging for the truth is not demonizing.
Grow up! |
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we want our children to look up to? It may be ok for you but I say no thanks. McCain does not understand family values - otherwise he would be divorced from his first wife and alienated from his children. |
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Let me guess.....public education? |
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All ye of high moral standards and family values, tell me how you justify this circus. Prehaps moma should remain at home teaching her children to make wise choices instead of running amok in her own ego. This is exactly the thinking that put Nixon into the crimminal business when he and his idiots believed they could do no wrong and now the evangelicals are the laughing stock of hipocracy again. If you cant run your own family how do you expect to run mine. I'm a far cry from morally and financially bankrupt as you have become and taken the country down with you. Great resume there morons now try to think farther than your buddies at ENRON. |
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I thought Sarah Palin supported contraception.
Obviously she did not use it herself or teach
her daughter too. If her daughter was such an upstanding individual, why has she not already married the father of the child? Is she doing it now for political reasons?
As usual the Republicans do not exemplify the family values they tout. What kind of example
does this set for our teenagers?
To top it off, McCain knew about this before he chose Palin so obviously he does not care about family values either. |
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The party of family values now has a candidate who came home from his honorable service in Vietnam and horrible experience as POW only to turn around and treat his first wife shabbily and see other women while still married. Proceeded to divorce her. The party that preaches only sexual abstinence without info about contraceptives rallies around the vp candidate whose daughter conceived a child out of wedlock. While I, too, admire the decision to carry the baby to term and to marry, please, no more messages about abstinence without also some messages about contraceptives. I find this present situation a tad ironic, if not hyprocritical |
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As far as I am concerned..Sarah Palin has my vote. There are many good kids from "good" families that end up as parents at a very early age. A pregnant daughter does not correlate to the family is a bunch of hypocrits.One comment stated Bristol got herself knocked up...I am quite sure she did not acomplish this all by herself. Youth and not so smart go hand-in-hand but that does not mean Bristol and her boyfriend will not be successful productive adults. What is the matter with you people? The girl is pregnant...her family is supporting her decision. That is what families are supposed to do. Would you be happier if her mother called her a whore and kicked her to the curb? Sarah Palin is a conservative govenor that also happens to have a whole pile of kids. She has juggeled a demanding public career with a husband, a herd of kids and a home. The woman has to be a great organizer and a delegater. If she doesn't become vice-president she will still have accomplished more than the majority of people in the world. Sounds to me like most everyone on this blog, be they righties or lefties, they need to be considerablely more positive and productive in their comments. What if Bristol was your daughter..would you still have spoken so harshly? What would you have done if someone spoke of you daughter or your wife like people are speaking of Sarah and Bristol Palin? |
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I am so thankful that you are not my judge. I would have been fried years ago...
"...all have sinned an fall short of the Glory of the Lord," but Jesus said, "...neither do I condemn you." As He forgave the woman caught in adultery and understood the woman at the well, He undertands you and me....and Bristol Palin.
This is not a time for condemnation. Would you really want Sarah Palin to feed her daughter to the goat?
What really matters now is what you do with the situation. It sounds to me as if her upbringing is having the right influence. Were the family of the democrat nominee the parents, I think you would see a different reaction. |
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This is a private matter for the Palin family, Bristol Palin, her soon to be husband & father of the baby & his family...
This private issue has zero to do with Sarrah Palin as a VP candidate...
But this is what the LEFTIES, the MEDIA & Democrats DO...
They want you to compare the actions & bad choices of Bristol Palin, a 17 year old TEEN AGED GIRL, (WHO IS NOT A CANDIDATE)the daughter, & say that it should exclude her mother, Sarrah Palin, from being a VP candidate some how because in some way it makes her unfit...
The left will DO THIS all the while wanting us to overlook Obama's mistakes, & bad choices (WHO IS A CANDIDATE), like when AS AN ADULT, he admittedly did cocaine, associated with known anti-American terrorist like Ayers, sought guidance from racist like Farakan & "Rev." Wright, had dealings with crooks like Tony Rezco, and accept him as fit to be POTUS...
This is what the left does, because they are HIPOCRITES...
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This is a private matter for the Palin family, Bristol Palin, her soon to be husband & father of the baby & his family...
This private issue has zero to do with Sarrah Palin as a VP candidate...
But this is what the LEFTIES, the MEDIA & Democrats DO...
They want you to compare the actions & bad choices of Bristol Palin, a 17 year old TEEN AGED GIRL, (WHO IS NOT A CANDIDATE)the daughter, & say that it should exclude her mother, Sarrah Palin, from being a VP candidate some how because in some way it makes her unfit...
The left will DO THIS all the while wanting us to overlook Obama's mistakes, & bad choices (WHO IS A CANDIDATE), like when AS AN ADULT, he admittedly did cocaine, associated with known anti-American terrorist like Ayers, sought guidance from racist like Farakan & "Rev." Wright, had dealings with crooks like Tony Rezco, and accept him as fit to be POTUS...
This is what the left does, because they are HIPOCRITES...
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Being that Bristol Palin may have made the orginal bad choice of having a child before marrying the father, She is making an even BETTER CHOICE in MARRYING the father & HAVING THE BABY to give the baby a chance at life & a family...
For that I applaud her and the father...
For standing by her daughter in a difficult time I applaud Sarrah & Todd Palin...
And for the Media, Democrats & leftist for trying to SMEAR the life of a 17 year old teen, I have nothing but TOTAL CONTEMPT & DISGUST !
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...Chomsky-style rhetoric. Or perhaps lacks reading comprehension skills. It seems to be a common problem among lib trolls. Swansong agreed with your juvenile IOKIYAR comment and then responded to what I said without addressing what I actually said.
Now you respond to my reply to him by denying words I didn't attribute to you.
If you are not just simply dense, you are a talented obfuscater. (If you consider that a compliment your ARE just simply dense.)
I WILL concede to McCain's adultery. I was using a statement attributed to his ex-wife as reference. Turns out I should have checked the source. Nevertheless, it's not as if he hasn't been excoriated over this for his entire political career. He's not getting a "free pass" from either side. And it occurred BEFORE he entered any public office.
I was addressing Swan's contention that Republican transgressions are ignored and Democrats are not. That's ridiculous on its face and easily refuted.
Your comment "But in many cases the acts they're getting a 'free pass' for are things that we don't disapprove of." speaks volumes. So, you're saying you and your party "don't disapprove of" the death by criminal negligence of Mary Jo Kopechne? You "don't disapprove of" a sitting POTUS lying under oath? |
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Fred says; if I'm going to vote republican. Fred you are as transparent as you are deceitful,go back to the daily KOS. |
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Do you honestly think Bristol is pregnant!?? Use your brains and analyze the facts. The only reason the announcement was made about Bristol being pregnant was to stop the burning questions about Sarah Palin and Trig. Bristol already had her child, Trig and to that I say leave them alone. However, Sarah Palin has lied and did it in a big way. She and the McCaine camp are trying to spin the situation. It shows that John McCaine acted first without gathering his fact. Now his camp is in Alaska trying to vet Palin--a little late for that now. It's not so much to vet her as they want no more surprises. National Enquirer or some other newspaper is going to uncover the truth. John McCaine is paying the price for thinking that women are so stupid they will vote for him just because he has a woman on the ticket and are not smart enough to look at the issues that really affect their lives. For those women that are voting for McCaine just because he added a woman to the ticket, then this proves why we don't have equal pay for equal work!!!!!! To those women, please watch Iron Jawed Angels (Hilary Swanke) to understand that if you vote it should count for something that can improve your life! |
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I am a mother of two daughters and my problem with Sarah Palin accepting the VP nod is how could she put this pressure on a teenager. She knew (or should have) that by accepting the nomination the spotlight would be on the entire family. The pregency was going to come out sooner or later. Teenagers have so many emotional changes happening in their lives and to put on top of that being 5 months pregent. How insenitive of Sarah Palin to put her daughters life in the national and internaational media to strok her own ego. |
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"Nevertheless, it's not as if he hasn't been excoriated over this for his entire political career."
Apparently not, if you didn't even know the truth about it.
"And it occurred BEFORE he entered any public office"
How does that make a difference?
"So, you're saying you and your party "don't disapprove of" the death by criminal negligence of Mary Jo Kopechne? You "don't disapprove of" a sitting POTUS lying under oath?"
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"People Wake Up!!!
Do you honestly think Bristol is pregnant!?? Use your brains and analyze the facts."
Do you know whose alibi in all this is coming unraveled?
That's right -- Hillary Clinton.
Seriously, Nash - and I am only saying that because I care - there's a lot of decaffeinated brands on the market that are just as tasty as the real thing.
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It appears that Ms. Palin was too busy climbing the political ladder to parent her teenage daughter. Somehow Ms. Clinton was able to do both.
So here we have Republican FAMILY VALUES: McCain, who dumps his wife when he returns from Vietnam because she has gained too much weight and he wants to be a rooster on the loose. And now his running mate, who is set forth as the all-American family hockey mother, has a daughter whose moral compass allows sex outside of marriage.
So, family values equal an appalling divorce and a family that condones pre-marital sex. What a cozy couple the Pubs are. Yes, let's Focus on the Family, Mr. Perkins!! |
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Sarah Palin had a Down's Syndrome baby in April. When our children were preschool age and elementary school, I felt it was very important to plan my schedule around their needs as much as possible, to be there with them as much as possible That's not because I don't believe in the equality of women in the workplace. Its just because when I choose to become a mother, I made the commitment that for next 15-20 years, my priority would be to them. There will be time enough in my life to do many other things later, but while they were young, my priority had to be best possible mother I could - which really means being there.
A friend told me once that a handicapped child is God's way of teaching a person to put someone else's needs ahead of their own wants. Her Downs Syndrome child was then 5, and needed frequent medical and therapeutic intervention. I think any good mother will say she has learned that lesson from her children, but certainly mothers of handicapped children relearn it everyday.
The choices you make AFTER the child is born are just as important than the choices you make BEFORE. And now we find out that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant. Should Sarah should have spent more time being with Bristol also? What values has she modeled for her daughter? What does that say about her sense of responsiblity to her most important job? Do we need someone like that as a vice president?
I can't imagine that any of the conservative Christian mothers I'm friends with, who choose to put their children first in their lives and many of whom homeschool, would admire a woman who clearly does not, regardless of what her anti-abortion stance seemingly indicates.
Please remember in the Parable of the Talents, one who could be trusted with small things was then entrusted with more. Think of that 4 month old child. Its just not OK to neglect your handicapped infant and your teenage daughter so you can be governor, or vice president. |
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I truly feel that she is not pregnant. She has already had her child and its name is Trig. Mama took the heat but forgot to wear the pillow under her closes. This will end up with her daughter having a virtual miscarrage so as to cover up all the evidence that Gov. Palin was never pregnant with her fifth child but rather protecting her and her daughters reputation. She just wasn't expecting to be selected as the V.P.
After the virtual miscarrage she will probably drop out for personnal reasons (family values) to taske care of her poor daughter. Then if anyone asks questions they can be vilfied for intruding into a familiues business at such a hard time.
At that point all is just a left wing conspiracy theory about the Gov's pregnancy. She will be made a hero and will be saved for future use by the GOP. McCain gets to pick again with no ramifications.
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My heart is breaking. As a Christian who has raised daughters, I understand the demands of family life, jobs and volunteering for my church. I look at Gov Palin and wonder what part doesn't she understand? Her husband and family need her and she is turning her back on them to pursue "a higher government office". Some how this doesn't make any sense to me. What will she have gained if she wins (without my vote) the election but her family has to go it alone with all the family issues that they face? My prayers are with her that she rethinks this and gives her family the support they need.
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To all of you so willing to criticize any decision related to Sarah Palin or her daughter Bristol, I challenge you to open your own closets. We all have something that we have struggled through whether privately or publically and you should ALL (regardless of which party you belong to) be ashamed. Let's focus on the issues that do relate to the prosperity and securoity of the country and wish Bristol all of the success she will need as she becomes a parent!
Governor Palin, as an Alaskan resident I am extremely proud of what you have accomplished for The Great State of Alaska and wish you every success!!!!
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You should really be blocked from posting anywhere on the internet. That is simply ridiculous and disgusting! |
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Hallajuah sister! your keeping your baby!! So, you were out playing hide the winkey dinkey, while mommy was up at the state house. I really feel like it's time for Mac to deep six this one and move on. This is really just too embarrassing for words. The veeps daughter is knocked up and at 17 'plans' to marry the baby daddy. And every one is cheering from the reborn bible bashers! Oh wonderful. Yet anouther fine example for my daughters to follow.
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Having raised my children in a church and a Christian environment, I soon realized that they too have a free will to choose what's right or what's wrong. Though my first two grandchildren arrived less than nine months after the respective weddings, those sweet babies were not a mistake!! God knew who they were and who they would be before they were born! My childrens' choices have resulted in some hard times and lessons learned, but those beautiful grandchildren are gifts from God!!
Though I chose to work part time in order to stay home more with my children, I realize the great personal sacrifice Gov. Palin is making for the sake of her country and I am assuming she did not enter into this decision without first seeking her Creator. If God has called her, who are we to question or criticize? |
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I did not have sex before marriage.
My 17 yr old daughter, my 15 yr old daughter and my 14 yr old son have not had sex. They are waiting for marriage. And in my son's case, he's waiting to get married after his LDS mission and some of his education out of the way.
I know where my kids are 24/7. I know their friends, I also know their standards. I'm the mom, and I don't have my husband playing Mr. Mom. (who pretty sure now, did not watch the kids close enough!)
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Oh pluessez. God has not called Palin to be veep. Get REAL.
It's time for McCain to have his Harriet Miers moment and deep six Palin, so she can go back to her cultish church, clap her hands and prais the lord her 17 yr old followed in her footsteps and got knocke up. |
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This is not to condemn the young woman who is pregnant. However the hypocrisy of evangelical christians who tout family values and talk about not having sex before marriage and now they are all saying how wonderful that this girl is pregnant.. What a joke! You can't talk out of both sides of your mouth...If this were a daughter of a liberal politician they would be quick to condemn but it is just fine if you are a right wing conservative. Let He who is without sin cast the first stone....remember that when you spout off about the evils of the liberals in this country. |
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No one is saying how wonderful it is that Bristol Palin is pregnant. She made a mistake. She SINNED. So did her now fiance. But we have all sinned.
What we do think is quite wonderful is that she is taking responsibility for her actions. Our hope is not found in "judging the sinners", but in Christ's redeeming sacrifice that saves US from sin, cleanses us from guilt and allows us to move forward. This is a gift that is available to anyone who is willing to put their trust in Him. |
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God bless the Palins. I personally would've preferred Romney b/c of his knowledge on the economy. At least it seemed like he knew something. I don't feel so confident in mccain's ability to fix the economy. His choice w/ her seems political. I'm not happy it. I'm sick of all this nonsense. We have real problems in this country.
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I actually know a whole lot of young ladies who are virgins before they marry. Spend a few months in the LDS Young Woman's program, and you'll meet TONS of them. Of course, we do have one or two that will pull a bristol or a Sarah (she was 'in the family way' before her shotgun marriage too). But on a whole, our daughters are good, moral, clean daughters of our Heavenly Father. I guess we mothers in this 'cult' teach a not only by words, but by example. |
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True Reagan Republicans, this is what happens when we become tethered to the evangelical nutjobs. We have to nominate some white trash, inexperienced social conservative who is going to be an anchor on the ticket. We're going to lose at least 5 seats in the Senate; three dozen seats in the house; and now the White House. Why? Because America is tired of our party telling them what to do with their personal lives. Now, we look like a bunch of hypocrites because this girl walked out of the trailer one night and got knocked up. If we didn't condone the behavior of these bible beaters who try to tell others how to raise their children, this wouldn't be an issue.
Of course, this is what we get for nominating Benedict McCain who is a closet economic liberal. The guy has no ideas or vision, he's senile, and he lacks the temperament for the job. This Palin diaster is just another example of his rashness and incapacity to make good decisions. He met her once!
You see, we could have a real economic conservative: Mitt Romney. But we couldn't nominate him because the evangelicals don't like Mormons. We deserve to lose. Frankly, I'd rather have Obama for four years than McCain. After those four years we can nominate a real conservative who isn't obsessed with what a woman does with her body, but rather is concerned with promoting pragmatic economic and foreign policies.
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You are very rude and should stop your crude remarks "cultish church" and "knocked up" You profess these great values, and how good your daughters are, but your example by what you write is NOT something I would say is a good example for your daughters. Have you no empathy for the Palin family at a time like this?
I pray that your daughters will be virgins when they marry so that you will never have to eat your words. They might be very bitter!
I don't know for sure that Gov Palin has been called--but you don't know that she hasn't. However,if she has been--who are you to criticize? |
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Sarah Palin had a baby 4 months ago. Period!
She is a solid conservative. A good mother, a good governor, and she will be a great VP.
The Bible teaches us to raise our children in the "nurture and admonition of the Lord."
While totally dependant at birth, they immediately begin to grow more independant.
We teach them our values, show them the correct path, and protect them as much as we can.
But, ultimately, they have to make their own choices. We have all made bad choices, choices we would like to take back, but we can't. And, neither can Bristol.
Two wrongs do not make a right.
Yes, conservatives are for abstinence education. Why? because it works every time it is tried.
But, it is not hypocritical to stand for life, even in the face of a foolish decision to engage in premarital sex, which all Christians must view as sin. Everyone is a sinner, everyone.
We all need the grace of God.
Having said that, to imply that this has anything to do with Palin's competency for
VP is exactly what has been said here earlier, a disgusting display of pettiness, and liberal tripe.
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This election cycle has taught me one thing, and one thing only.
Evangalicals are evil and sons/daughters of Satan.
MAny of us feel that way. If you can't walk the walk, don't talk the talk. |
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You will basically turn a blind eye to this, because she worshops at the 'right' church?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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This conservative republican would rather have 4 years of Obamanation than let another Evangalical get within 400 feet of the white house. She's not only NOT QUALIFIED, but she's got a really free and loose set of 'family values'.
I look for McCain to send her packing back to Juno pretty soon. Oh dear! That was a movie about a teenage ma ma, right? Fits soooo perfect.
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Obviously the Republicans stand on "teaching abstinence" in the classroom isn't so effective! Bristol is a poor and DISGUSTING reflection of her mother's parental values. What sort of message are the Palin's sending to 17 year olds around the country? That it's acceptable for young ladies STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL to get pregnant? Sarah needs NOT to sugar coat the issue.
Yes, I understand Bristol is not the candidate running for Vice President but I expect Sarah Palin's family to be exemplary role models for other families. THIS IS DOWN RIGHT SHAMEFULL!
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Since a 17 year old's pregnancy seems to be a topic of conversation now, it seems valid to ask why any 17 year old would choose to get pregnant, and then keep the baby. Birth control works, as does adoption. Abortion is not the only possible alternative.
I would respect the Palins more if they used this as an opportunity to discuss ADOPTION as an respectable, time-honored way to resolve an unwanted pregnancy - for the future of the child, the future of the girl, and the benefit of a childless family.
I guess I wonder why a teenage girl would choose such the path that Bristol apparently has - doesn't she have hopes and plans for her own future, college, a job, travel, independance - you know, those things that make for a well-balanced adult who will be a conscientious well-balanced parent in about 10 years?
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No blind eye--just reality. We are all given a free will--teens too. Mistakes are made but God is a loving, forgiving God.
Your seething hatred and bitter remarks are making me wonder what your LDS beliefs really are. I had gotten to the point where I would have accepted Romney, but your hateful rhetoric is making me re-think what your church really stands for.
I agree with RushConservative--Bristol has nothing to do with the choice McCain made. Palin is just who we need--a fresh voice--a person who is not afraid to take on the BIG BOYS--someone with GUTS on the personal as well as the professional level!!
For once Obama is right--this is a personal family matter and has no business in the public arena. But some people don't see it that way, so others have to come to Palin family's defense! And the trash talk goes on... |
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Grace--you must absolutely and politely shut up!
You insulted Bristol--a young 17 year old who has enough to deal with. Crude! YOU are the one who is DISGUSTING and obviously were not appropriately named. |
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You're a bitter person. Your comments are mean-spirited, rude and very un-Christian. I also, for your sake your teenage daughters don't ever make you eat your vile words. |
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The only way the pregnancy is relevant to the campaign is for what it says about Governor Palin's policy for abstinence-only programs. If she blindly sticks to policies that prove to be failures, is she a good VEEP choice for McCain? Wouldn't she fit it better as a vice president for Bush?
I personally disagree with her daughter's decision to start her family when she is so young. But it is her decision. So why aren't conservatives joining those of us on the left who understand by our experience how wonderful having children is, and wish Bristol Palin the best at this time?
Carol Platt Liebau sums up the conservative view that the pregnancy is an embarrassment. So to respond to another commenter - I am a lefty. I am heaping no scorn. My instincts when I hear of any pregnancy, including this one, are - where are they registered? What do they need?
Some conservatives sound like they want to make Bristol Palin wear a sign that says "SINNER" during her pregnancy. As a progressive, I want her to get good pre-natal care and health care for her baby and her family. And live in a community and a country that supports her in the extremely difficult, but incredibly rewarding, life of being a parent. Family values sounds nice on a bumpersticker. In real life, it's more important to actually value families. They are never an embarrassment.
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This is a great campaign strategy. I wonder what other things, normal to most people's lives, will be brought out into the public light. If they can bring out one thing a day for everyone to vet over for the next, what is it something around 70 days, no one will remember who Obama is. Perhaps Piper still isn't riding a bike without training wheels. Maybe Willow inhaled at a party. I don't think that Sarah would be too harsh on that one though. I read that Sarah inhaled herself once, of course it was legal in Alaska then. I am sure she would take a few moments to chastize her daughter about following the law. On current topic no law has been broken, but I bet we will talk about it for the next week. You are never going to change the mind of self righteous people. It isn't even worth the bother of trying. Can we move on to something more important to our own lives now. Please. |
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How do you spell white trash? P-A-L-I-N |
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Bottom line is Bristol Palin has a mother who is ABSENT, unaware, and has her eyes closed to the TRUTH. If she were there to watch over her child,
her child would not be having a baby!
America,do you really want someone who can't even be there for her children , potentially or rather very likely become the President of the United States of America?
Sarah Palin is a LOSER. she only has 4 um I mean
5 kids because there is NOTHING TO DO in ALASKA, even if you are the governor!!! there are only like 670,053 people in the entire state! that's less that the number of people in the CITY of San Francisco. She is SO NOT QUALIFIED! get someone else republicans!
To the comment in the original posting stating:
" Can anyone even imagine the outcry had Chelsea Clinton been treated this way?" ... FIRST OF ALL,
Chelsea, did not get pregnant when she was a teenager. She grew into a brilliant young woman who pursued an education.
Bristol is a stupid promiscuous teen living in the boonies of Alaska. |
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I just don't understand how this crazy old man, knowing that Palin just had a baby with Down Syndrome, and also knowing that she has a teenage unmarried pregnant daughter, could ask her to be his VP??? Doesn't he realize that a woman in her situation needs to focus her attention on her own family matters instead of running around the country promoting a national presidential campaign??? I found it extremely selfish and outrageous! |
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As the late Rev. Falwell once noted, the Antichrist is a Jewish male living in our country. Could he be the one?
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