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Tuesday, July 15, 2008
Obama Disappears His Critcism Of The Surge
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 9:06 AM
The New York Daily News catches Obama in the act of trying to erase the evidence of his poor judgment on the most important issue of the past two years:



Barack Obama's campaign scrubbed his presidential Web site over the weekend to remove criticism of the U.S. troop "surge" in Iraq, the Daily News has learned.

The presumed Democratic nominee replaced his Iraq issue Web page, which had described the surge as a "problem" that had barely reduced violence.

"The surge is not working," Obama's old plan stated, citing a lack of Iraqi political cooperation but crediting Sunni sheiks - not U.S. military muscle - for quelling violence in Anbar Province.


The inexperienced Obama represents a huge gamble for American security, a risky throw of the dice on an untried, inexperienced speech giver.

It also represents a vote for dishonesty, as the "I am not a flip-flopper" declaration of yesterday is impeached by the deceptive attempt to scrub the candidate's official website.





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NeoConScum writes: Wednesday, July, 16, 2008 10:15 AM
Clarity:"Yawn" Is The ONE Thing Blovie's
got right. Did'ja see his cool post on another HH Thread where he's convinced that Evil Cons long for another 9-11 before November??

Both utterly despicable and Yawn worthy.
Patriotic Liberal writes: Wednesday, July, 16, 2008 9:21 AM
CS
I don't know. Notwithstanding Kirkegaard's injunction that boredom is the root of all evil, I find that when I am "bored" by someone, I genuinely tune them out--I don't pretend to tune them out. Seems to me your so-called boredom is more an attempt to gain an upper-hand than anything approaching real boredom. Ditto with Neoyawnscum. You guys feign an indifference to my "pedantic" and "tiresome" posts, yet are always whining about them--if not to me directly, than to others.

In other words, you're a big phony! Take a shower, ya bum..
NeoConScum writes: Wednesday, July, 16, 2008 9:14 AM
'Troot...(2)
The 2:22am, paragraph #3 is PRICELESS. THANK YOU!!

"The reckless war in Iraq has not only killed MILLIONS....National Guard units which could have helped Americans here at home were in Iraq instead helping oil companies. THAT is why I will end the war so American resources can be used to help THE PEOPLE." (*Caps emphasis are mine.*)

Truthie, please'o'please assure me that these are Exact & TRUTHFUL Quotes from The Messiah. :-) Our Eager-Beaver 527s need assurance, Bunky!

Earth to Truthie & Obama: Million(s)haven't been killed in the War in Iraq. But millions have been liberated and saved from Baathist tyranny and savagery--a very nice accompaniment to our security and the security of the region--and, who of us can forget the MILLIONS of purple fingers waving in celebration of their first FREE elections?? NOT IF The Messiah were in command. Yep, just more massive waste in the bottomless sewage pit of the Great Society Poster Child: Naw'luns.
NeoConScum writes: Wednesday, July, 16, 2008 8:37 AM
Troot'...Old Arch's Post Is Spot-On
at 2:52am to your astonishing(Thank YOU!!)interview quotes with The Messiah at 2:22am.

THAT's the Barack that needs regular exposure to Americans. THAT's the Obama that has been all revised and scrubbed clean & Bushlike in his new post-primary-gotta-connect-with-Uggggh, The Peeps-Candidate Self. THAT's the Barack that he and your Party FEAR will be relentlessly exposed by the Evil Republican 527s in the Fall Campaign. Ya know, Truthie, the one who spent most of the past year promising French Junkyard Lunacy to your Left Fringe? (Errr...PRE-Sarkozy France!)

Katrina, for Gawdsake?? How about Burma and China and Sunami??? General Honore, Bless Him, put it best when he said, "Obama and 'Troot Foist are stuck on stupid."
arch writes: Wednesday, July, 16, 2008 2:50 AM
Truth
arch writes: Wednesday, July, 16, 2008 2:44 AM
Truth
You just listed a verifiable insane man's worldview of demeaning humanity and ignorance. What a bunch of sick dreams and fairy dust. May the iron fist be landed on your jawbone first my friend.

Arch says also"

If you insist on copying the same post to a different thread, then I insist on doing likewise.
Truth writes: Wednesday, July, 16, 2008 2:22 AM
THE TRUTH
TF: We saw the devastation after Katrina. What will your administration do to tend to the needs of the victims and to make sure such a thing never happens again?

Senator Obama: We saw a complete failure on almost every level. People were not warned and people were not moved to safer locations. They were not given adequate shelter and care. We almost show a complete indifference to suffering from the federal government and I never want to see that again.

The reckless war in Iraq has not only killed millions but has wasted billions of this nation’s wealth that could have been used to help the victims of Katrina. National Guard units that could have helped Americans here at home were in Iraq instead helping oil companies. That is why I will end the war so American resources can be used to help the people.

TF: Do you feel a special destiny as the first American President of African heritage? For a long time many people have felt they have not been represented, their interests not respected and their voices denied. You represent a truly historic moment.

Senator Obama: It will be something. I can’t claim to know exactly what will happen but yes America will be going in a different direction. This will be a change of profound implication so I do feel an obligation live up to the promise of change that the people want. I know people will be expecting me to make good on the promise of change.
TF: What's the first thing you would like to do as President? Do have a definite set of goals to fulfill during the first 100 days or so?

Senator Obama: I want to restore people's confidence in their government and not do anything to hurt their sense of hope. That's very important to me because if I don't have the confidence of the American people and if they do not have hope we'll have a much more difficult time in getting things done.


http://truthfirstnow.blogspot.com
arch writes: Wednesday, July, 16, 2008 2:22 AM
Briggsy
Briggsy writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 4:25 PM
You're lucky I was busy today
or I would have mopped up the floor with each and every one of you.

Arch says"

Just like the black knight in monty python's (The Search for the Holy Grail)?
clarityseeker writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 9:07 PM
Pathetic Liberal's Pedantic Rant...
..is so predictably stale in each and every sentence, every syllable.
How painful to observe teh same crap dished from this Pathetic Liberal.


It is actually worth pondering a moniker change for this worshipper of Obama falderal.

Yep, Pedantic Liberal might be worth a thought.


God, what an utter bore.
hvs writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 8:03 PM
PL
"Everyone knows the surge has worked for a variety of reasons"

I, for one, will not give Barack any credit on this outcome. The risk balance here is clearly in McCain's favor among those voters that put national security at the top of their list.

We can argue about McCain's various statements over the course of the war, especially those that take the current administration to task over the conduct of the war, but McCain has been unequivocally behind the change in strategy, the surge and the perseverance of the mission. Barack Obama simply cannot make that claim. Worse, he appears to be attempting to rewrite his position on these matters and it is costing him support with his far left base and with those who are on the fence.

Barack laid down a serious wager in the caucuses on the matter of the war. It was a good bet and he one the nomination. Now he must defend that position and he appears to be failing in light of the situation today in Iraq.

Politics is an unforgiving mistress, and Barack declared his devotion early on, only to see circumstances change later in the courtship.
Patriotic Liberal writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 7:47 PM
Oh please..
Everyone knows the surge has worked for a variety of reasons--not least of which was the willingness of our military to diplomatically engage enemy combatants. And their bravery where diplomacy was impossible. And kudos to the Iraqi people as well for believing their own eyes and disbelieving the radical seductions of outfits like al-Qaeda. THEY want a timetable, by the way.

But there are people who deserve zero credit. The guys in here, for instance. Guys like Hugh have been wrong about Iraq from soup to nuts. So has McCain, for that matter. These clowns do not get to take a bow. They deserve our contempt for the loss of lives, treasure, and moral capital--for the failure of leadership. Thank goodness our military saw the benefit in reaching out to their former adversaries. But the civilian leadership? And "influencers" like Hugh? In a rational world, they would be tried for dereliction of duty.

The risk is not in Barack--the risk is leaving it in the hands of these delusional and decrepit Reeps, who are more interested in scoring political points and enriching their cronies than in beating the terrorist enemies and advancing the cause of civilization.

Barack has been right, on balance, just as Mac has been wrong, on balance. Even now, McCain is rushing to embrace Barack's views on the distribution of forces between Iraq and Afghanistan. It is McCain who is all over the map--not Barack. Barack has the sense and decency to modify as the facts change--only a morally corrupt Reep would call THAT some kind of character flaw. But McCain just hops around from assertion to assertion. His approach is alternatively reckless and frivolous. It is not serious. And it is a continuation of the risky and careless and failed leadership we saw in Bush.
DirtCrashr writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 7:17 PM
Winston Hussein Smith...
Obama Baraka...for President!
hvs writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 7:11 PM
Briggsy says
"You're lucky I was busy today
or I would have mopped up the floor with each and every one of you."

With that special Swifter model (pardon the double entendre'), Briggsy? Your comments today are predictably vacuous.

Briggsy writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 4:25 PM
You're lucky I was busy today
or I would have mopped up the floor with each and every one of you.

primaryjustice7 writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 3:56 PM
Interesting Fact (additional)
Forgot to mention, the url to the site I was talking about is http://www.archive.org/index.php
primaryjustice7 writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 3:55 PM
Interesting Fact
There's a website called the Internet Archive which contains a small little tool you can use to look at snapshots of websites taken in years past. It's pretty fun to go and see what some sites looked like at the dawn of the World Wide Web. I've used this site numerous times for any website from news to entertainment, even to look up Hugh's old blog.

http://www.barakobama.com is the first website I have ever seen that has blocked this archive. There's no way to easily pull up old snapshots of his site. Even more, I noticed google's cache seems pretty limited on what old info we can pull from his site.

Maybe we should start taking daily snapshots of the site and posting them somewhere so we can see his "metamorphosis".

This guy is bad news.
Erin writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 2:37 PM
briggsy....
now you're really off in fantasy land. This is the most egregious, off the mark nonsense you've spewed yet.

You said-

"Salty Alaskan, I quote the great
Charlie Schwartz, a friend of mine..."

Of course you have friends you special lil' fella- really and truly, you do.

They just happen to be invisible and live behind your mommy's washing machine in the basement.

Are they the ones that tell you all the smart guy stuff to write on this blog too? They're very, very special- just like you. Now go rest your head, later there will be cookies and juice.
kleindo writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 2:02 PM
Can you say Ministry of Information?
Scrubbing the website of yesterday's opinions to match today's facts. Maybe Barack's middle name is Winston.

NoDonkey writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 1:22 PM
Briggsy's commie cousins
Seehawk,

The only good thing about the left in this country is that they are too lazy and cowardly to act on their rhetoric.

That's why they cheer terrorists and dictators. They are doing what the 60's wannabes would like to do, but don't have the guts for.

If we had a second civil war in this country, the left would surrender in what, 1 minute or under 1 minute?

Then we could fence in Michigan and send them all there. Would solve all problems.
Salty Alaskan writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 12:30 PM
Briggsy
Sounds like they are not embarrassed, doing it well, and are happy to have proof.

I assume you believe in the opposite behavior?
SEEHAWK writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 12:24 PM
Erin/kc/nodonkey
Should we pitch in and buy Briggsy a one way ticket to Cuba for his utopian paradise???
Nee writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 12:22 PM
Erin
Briggsy...a Monkey boy, like Monkey Girl(Kimberly) He likes to spew, can't use facts or they would ruin his reality. As it is, the leftist have to come here with triple strength rose-colored glasses(RCG's) so they block out truth.
SEEHAWK writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 12:22 PM
Erin
If we wanted Saddams oil, we could have simply purchased it from him anytime. It was our restrictions that kept him from selling oil on the world market.I think the Left has serious brain damage.
You are right about the "dolt"
SEEHAWK writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 12:19 PM
NoDonkey
Had a nice 1 1/2 hour lecture about "Imperialist America" from a Fidel thug in 199_. Of course Clinton was el presidente, then.....heheheh. Exact same spew you hear here.
You are spot on on Briggsy and her Commi-cousins.As Mark Levin says,"Commi's are fascists by committee."
Erin writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 12:17 PM
kchand....
thanks for the compliment, it's much appreciated.

Although beating briggsy in an argument is like beating the booger eating kid down the block in checkers. I mean you win and all, but it's not really that satisfying, and in the end you just feel sorry for the poor guy.
Erin writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 12:15 PM
broadcasting from planet Zed....
Briggsy, you need to check your meds- believe you've got a bad combination going on about now.

"Cheney Bush took the oil from Saddam."

Still no, as evidenced by the facts of oil development contracts going up for bid and companies from multiple countries competing for them.

"And imperialists get the oil profits."

Geez- are you this obtuse on purpose, or is it a special idiot savant style "gift"? You have yet to make anything resembling a rational argument to back your banal "imperialism" premise, other than to mindlessly repeat it.

"And lots of people are dead because of it all."

Ah, still no. Lots of people are dead thanks to Saddam and his children.

But to the topic- why is your steadfast and true candidate getting caught trying to erase his "rock solid" pronouncements about Iraq on his website?
SEEHAWK writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 12:12 PM
Bugsy
Your friend is profane, a false witness, and should have his mouth washed out with soap.
Why am I not surprised.
SEEHAWK writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 12:09 PM
Right-minded
http://www.comcast.net/data/fan/html/popup.html?v=439536870 &pl=793118270.xml&plc=793118270&launchpoint=Cover&cid=fanco ver&attr=default_headline&config=/config/common/fan/default .xml
Very disturbing article and video.
I received a State Department (in a letter sent to me)warning of possible of hijacking airplanes of overseas travelers in July 2001. Of course it came about not,overseas but in America on 9/11. Since then every summer I have gone overseas, AQ has attacked in Europe or had a major attack there stopped before it occured. President Bush's policy of offensive war against the Jihad has kept us safe.
Democrats will stop the offense, and we will no longer be safe.
Briggsy writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 11:38 AM
kchand, your high regard for
Erin's intellect, such as it is, says a lot about YOU.

(None of it good.)
Salty Alaskan writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 11:32 AM
Not mine, but:
Whoever came up with the Tabula Rasa moniker has it right.

I read it elsewhere, but I thought it perfectly captured the mindset of many (most?) BO supporters: "He could be caught on camera drowning a tub full of puppies and it wouldn't change the minds of the believers".

Heh.

kchand writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 11:31 AM
Briggsy
The evidence is in. Bringing your intellect to debate Erin is akin to bringing a knife to a gunfight.
Briggsy writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 11:27 AM
Erin, your bigger bully theory is
spot on.

Cheney Bush took the oil from Saddam.

Neither situation is very wholesome.

Unfortunately, American taxpayers are now stuck with the bill for the invasion and occupation.

And imperialists get the oil profits.

And lots of people are dead because of it all.

That was a bad deal for you, me and them.

Thanks a whole heap, Cheney Bush.

Thanks a barrel.

NoDonkey writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 11:27 AM
Hilarious
"the Iraqi oilfields are being privatized is proof positive that they are being looted to enrich imperialists."

Wow, that revolutionary rhetoric really charges your batteries, doesn't it?

Can you take that time machine back to 1968, or does it only go one way.

BTW, wearing a Che Guevera t-shirt and being a fan of "Rage Against the Machine" doesn't make you a revolutionary. You actually have to get off of the couch and make some sort of effort at killing innocent, unarmed people, like all good Marxist heroes do.
clarityseeker writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 11:02 AM
Obama, "Change Agent"
He can "Change" and adapt his website to give it the "Fresh" appearance of that new kind of candidate as fast and as well as any typical politician.

It has only been Liberals on these pages who've been defensive of any hint that Obama is part of teh "same 'ol, same 'ol". Not our candidate has been their resunding reply. Not OBAMA. He's an "outside-the-beltway" guy. He don't play fast and loose like all of the others. He's not about political expediency. Not our man.
This campaign process has been very illuminating indeed.
If it were up to the Liberals, Leftists, Progressives, Victicrats, Socialists, Marxists, there would have been NO VETTING of Obama at all. They were all comfy-cozy with this guy before March 2008.
Like a popular line from one of those Tom Cruise movies, Liberals looked across the living room and emotively declared, "Stop, stop right there, you had me at 'Fresh', 'Change' and 'Hope'".

Liberals never asked for, did not demand, seek, nor require that this guy 'splain himself to them. After all, they're all about makin' stuff up so it was a good fit right from the start.
Erin writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 10:39 AM
oh, that's right....
comrade briggsy got a marxist starter kit for Christmas last year. As such, anything resembling Capitalism is yucky.

Yo, dingbat- three questions.

First, who controlled the "people's" oil when Hussein was still alive? If you said the people, you're even dumber than I thought.

Second, the Iraqis are putting up for bid development contracts- that is, they are hiring oil companies to come in and help them develop their reserves. Where does "privatization" enter into that picture?

Third, even assuming your inane blather about "privatization" was correct- the fact that the IRAQIS are in control of this process, and are accepting bids from companies that aren't American renders your dopey jabber about "imperialism" as pointless as well, you.

As always- gads, you're a dolt.
Briggsy writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 10:23 AM
Erin, the sad fact that
the Iraqi oilfields are being privatized is proof positive that they are being looted to enrich imperialists.

As usual, your view of the situation is completely bass ackwards.
NoDonkey writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 10:19 AM
Pricelessly Inane
"He is actually the only chance we have to save what is left of our beloved nation after eight years of Cheney Bush."

What economic experience does clown Obama have exactly?

"Organizing" smelly, drunk losers into protest rallies to demand that even more tax dollars get wasted on smelly, drunk losers, does not qualify as economic experience.

Neither does Obama's history of taking shady loans and obvious bribes.

Tony Rezko can't help Obama here.

Erin writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 10:14 AM
another day, more stoopit...
From briggsy the less than bright.

"a huge policy shift away from American global imperialism..."

Ah, no. Imperialism denotes a process where foreign lands are subjugated, then looted for resources to enrich the Imperialists.

Last I checked, we hadn't seized the oil in Iraq- in fact we were bidding for development contracts there- were we imperialists, there would be no such bidding.

b.hussein is the "only chance" we have? Your imagination is as lacking as your intellect. What a cheapjack pile of turgid prose. Which b.hussein are you speaking of? The one from last week, or the one from a few months ago, or the one from last year? They're all somewhat different, as he is merely an empty suit that billows in whichever direction the wind blows.
Erin writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 10:08 AM
As steadfast
As a marshmallow in a hurricane- that's our b.hussein.

Believe the subtext of these spastic contortions is "I was against the surge, before I was for it."

I think we've already seen this movie- it starred that guy from the Addams family. It was a boring and stupid movie- I wonder why they're doing a remake?

This is yet further evidence that this laughable clown is barely qualified to be county dog catcher.

Any assertions of b.hussein being qualified to be president are flat out absurd.
Briggsy writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 10:06 AM
Barack Obama also represents
a huge policy shift away from American global imperialism which we obviously cannot afford judging from the collapse of our economy.

He is actually the only chance we have to save what is left of our beloved nation after eight years of Cheney Bush.
NeoConScum writes: Tuesday, July, 15, 2008 9:39 AM
TOO Rich...TOO Funny...TOO Loverly !
Yep, Brob, 527 ad waiting to happen. Gawd, I luv this twit!
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