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Monday, June 16, 2008
Obama, Pelosi and the Don't Drill Democrats
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 9:56 AM
"You can't drill your way out of this problem" Nancy Pelosi declared last week after House democrats refused to lift the ban on oil exploration on the outer continental shelf  --at least 50 miles from American shores.

Of course the only way to get more oil and thus decrease the price is to in fact drill.  Oil is obtained only by drilling.  The casual indifference to reality displayed by the Speaker mirrors the Democrats' indifference to the economic pain being inflicted by their steadfast refusal to allow America to tap its own reserves.

The Don't Drill Democrats will have a lot to answer for at the polls in November if the GOP keeps the focus on the extremism of the majority on this issue.  Perhaps the House GOP ought to offer this amendment:  When and only if oil hits $200 a barrel then exploration on the outer continental shelf can begin. 

Is there any cost the democrats are unwilling to see average Americans bear without acting?

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activated writes: Wednesday, June, 18, 2008 7:28 AM
come on now
we all know that its bushs fault. he controls the world and does what he wants. He hates blacks so he sent a hurricane to NO and blew up the damns, he hates middle america and is now sending floodwaters down the mississippi, and he is making billions on his stocks in big oil and the other shareholders(except the white executives) dont get any of the profits. I know this cuz someone said so
arch writes: Wednesday, June, 18, 2008 12:19 AM
Too funny
dudley writes: Tuesday, June, 17, 2008 9:01 PM
X and Y
Sloandog,
you send your ladies around, try to make me pregnant. Damn, it sounds fun; I'll do my best!

Arch says"

Dudley. I know a couple of ladies who would gladly impregnate you, but I doubt you would enjoy it one bit. Ever try to shyt out a cement block?
arch writes: Wednesday, June, 18, 2008 12:15 AM
Sloandog
sloandog writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:20 PM
I know for a fact men can get
pregnant. Have you sen Al Gore lately!
Yes Josh ,Jews have to bear some of the blame because they vote predominantly dem,and I don't get that.

Arch says"

You got me there Sloandog. The liberals are right. liberal men such as Al Gore do get pregnant. I will always wonder how that happens in the sexual world?

Also I cannot understand how the Jews of Germany got murdered so badly in the concentration camps without a rebellion. I just cannot understand that one either. There is an evil at work that defies common sense and the Nazis certainly possessed it.
ted writes: Tuesday, June, 17, 2008 11:11 PM
Dumbing Down AMERICA
***
ARE YOU BETTER OFF THAN YOU WERE 2 YEARS AGO ??

Americans voted for CHANGE in 06.
- Gas; $2.00 to $4.00
- Food up 40%
- Lost 2 Trillion in Home Eqiuty
- Jobless rate up 16%

- And thats REAL CHANGE.

-We cant drill our way out OF A PROBLEM?
__Right, we'll vote our way out!
dudley writes: Tuesday, June, 17, 2008 9:01 PM
X and Y
Sloandog,
you send your ladies around, try to make me pregnant. Damn, it sounds fun; I'll do my best!
I am RIGHT writes: Tuesday, June, 17, 2008 8:33 PM
energy is freedom
Without energy independence...there is no freedom. Any American who is against drilling, nuclear, and any other form of American energy supply...is against freedom. These people are enemies of America.

Obama is not smart and this is what makes him very scary.

I am not sure how Newt can call him highly intelligent.


POLMsgt writes: Tuesday, June, 17, 2008 9:56 AM
What the
DDDems propose doesn't produce one drop of oil, McCain is Dem lite. These glittering jewels of collossal ignorance just want to raise taxes on the oil companies, not forgetting the govermant is getting wind-fall profits from taxing the oil companies. And just who are Nancy and the socialist gang to tell oil companies they "must" find alternative energy soucres? If my business is oil then I produce oil and petroleum products. What they are saying is like telling McDonalds they must sell pizza. Let Nancy and all the anti-oil gang come up with investors, put up their own money, and scientist and produce their own alternatives. If some one sees a profit in it they will produce it, these dictators are demanding a company produce what they tell them, what arrogance. If the Dems were out of the way we would have oil in the stream from ANWR, and from off the coast of Ca. and Fl by now and working on getting it out of the Dakotas. In truth these crap-masters like the price high, they get more taxes. Obama even said the high price doesn't bother him (it just rose too fast). As he travels on his carbon emitting jets.
Rene writes: Tuesday, June, 17, 2008 9:54 AM
The "we can't demoRATS"
We can't we can't we can't...blah blah blah. That's all the demoRATS are about. How we can't do anything. What a crappy attitude. We can't win the war (hello were kicking butt and WINNING), we can't drill ourselves out of it (Yes we can morons) we can't lose in November (Yes you can and we the people are going to help get your defeatist attitude out of there) we can't we can't we can't. Hey demoRATS your attitudes suck. You can't stand it when we conservatives are right. We are the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD! WE CAN DO ANYTHING WE WANT BECAUSE WE ARE THE STRONGEST, THE SMARTEST, THE MOST INGENIOUS FREE PEOPLE IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND! WE CAN DO ANYTHING IF YOU DEMORATS GET THE F OUT OF THE WAY! VOTE REPUBLICAN BECAUSE REPUBLICANS STILL BELIEVE WE CAN DO ANYTHING IF WE SET OUR MINDS TO IT!
maggie  writes: Tuesday, June, 17, 2008 9:35 AM
Think about it
Maxine Water ssaid "this liberal is all about socia..uh is about taking over your companies" And Obama says"Didn't want to see it go up so high this fast."

So libs wnat to run big oil and assisted in the rising prices on purpose. That's how I read it. And not willing to do anything except in the way of a solution. If the people don't take action Now it will be too late to head rising prices accross the board.

Corn get blight,flooded,and drought. Oil doesn't.
Josh writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:24 PM
hey hotrod
we cant take advice from sum1 about illegal aliens wen he cant even spell "Hispanics" right?
sloandog writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:20 PM
I know for a fact men can get
pregnant. Have you sen Al Gore lately!
Yes Josh ,Jews have to bear some of the blame because they vote predominantly dem,and I don't get that.
clarityseeker writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:01 PM
Maxine...?
...has left the building...
clarityseeker writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:00 PM
Maxine Waters to be reckoned with...
...if this oil debacle is not straightened out, pronto, Maxine is going to proceed with her "socialist" paradaim for management of the situation.

This one cannot be played enough.
Thanks, Mrs. Maxine CHAvez...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqjFBiPMmBE&feature=related
arch writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 10:32 PM
Liberals believe men can get pregnant!
And now they bring forth their point man Obammy for the smooth talk to lead the fools of humanity. Just look how many of the poor souls have been duped into imagining that leftist politics will help them out is some way. Read the libtard enablers here on this forum and see how the cure for the disease of leftism is being hidden from them and they have not a clue to their destiny. Sad but true, the marching morons will inherit the earth and cause their own extinction along with the rest of humanity. At least the conservatives here don't go down without a fight!!
Josh writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 9:55 PM
blame the jews?
come on, everyone is thinking it. its time someone said it
GOPsaver writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 8:46 PM
JoeB131
I was born here. What laws mandated by our Constitution do I get to break?

What are you going to say to the Blue Collar worker who has to take a pay cut from $25.00 an hour down to $10.50 an hour because he has to compete with third work labor for a job in his own Country? Are you going to be the first to snivel when Joe Blue Collar worker can not make his house payment and Real Estate deflates in value?

Why do illegal aliens have more rights then American Citizens?

John McCain sold his soul for the Hespanic vote and a piece of the 28 million illegal aliens in the USA breaking our Laws every day. McCain is pulling 29% of the Hespanic vote and Obama is getting 69% of the Hespanic vote. In the mean time McCain can not count of the Conservative voters because many of us have left him and will not come back.

What do you and McCain tell the family of a person in the USA killed by an illegal aliens? We have 13 Americans killed each day by illegal aliens in the USA. Instead of taking measures to stop those deaths. McCain and Obama do everything in their power to make those deaths possible.
Jon in Ca writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 7:58 PM
Drill, Refine, Sell, Invest...
The FACT is - the US consumer is being held over a barrel by OPEC and other oil producing nations. Democrats and Enviro-wackos deserve the biggest blame, but Republicans deserve a share since they have held Congress on the White House at times.

As a conservative I am normally very much against Govt involvement in private enterprise... but in this case I would very much be open to:

1. Government funded drilling
2. Government sells oil to US Companies
3. 100% of the profit from the oil goes into an Alternative Energy Fund - dedicated to exploring viable alternatives: Wind, Solar, Nuclear, Bio-fuels, etc.


Until we achieve energy independence - we should be trading Food for Oil (1 bushel of corn = 1 barrel of oil)

Oil producing countries object? Ok - eat sand.
Sue writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 7:01 PM
Then What...
Okay, if we can't drill our way out of it, then what? Tap dance our way out of it? Do a waltz or maybe a nice tango to spice things up? Or we could all join hands and sing "Tomorrow." Because when the sun comes out tomorrow, the guy down the street at the gas station will be out there changing the prices. Today he actually has his super unleaded at $4.99 per gallon.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 6:49 PM
Craziness
My nutter governor now wants to suspend drilling in our state to let the prairie dogs reproduce for 3 months a year! Not to mention now men can go into the Women's restroom and women into Men's!DDD Perverts!See what you get when you elect DemocRats!
Don't Drill DemocRats!
cottoneyed writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 6:47 PM
Leftists, liberals and other scum
believe that men can become pregnant, why should we listen to them when it comes to enviro-policy. Drill here, drill now, if theres oil in Yellowstone, go get, refine it, and tell leftists that men can't get pregnant.
Axion writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 6:09 PM
Hope as Energy
Hope and Change but not drilling or approving new energy plants (nuclear, coal, gas, hydro, etc.) will provide us everything we need. Throw in a good measure of "sticking" it to BIG OIL and all will be well.

*cough*
Dread writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 5:33 PM
Old Lady
Re-read my posts.

As I said, expanding oil production should be included in part of the solution, but only as part of the overall solution to America's needs and only in conjunction with a plan to reduce and then eliminate our need for oil as a source of energy.

I'm for expanding production because:

a.)We need a way to pay for rail, solar, and nuclear plants

b.) Environmentally technology is better so the chances for leakage are slim.

c.) Increasing production will reduce hardship temporarily while we move away from oil as energy

d.) Oil impacts our trade deficit which is a drag on our dollar.

e.) If we are able to reach our goal of reducing our oil energy consumption by 75-100%, we can ship that crap overseas and start bringing those Petrol bucks home and use the fees to pay off national debt, rebuild infrastructure, etc.
Old Lady writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 4:39 PM
Hey Dread
We are sending billions of dollars to our enemys. As one guy said drilling will create another industry to export our excess oil. When we are ready to convert to alternatives we will have a product to sell. The biggest problem with these alternatives is where are you gonna get it.. How many filling stations are there for Hydrogen or natural gas? This liberal concept that we must be
punished because we are afflunent, is a prime reason why everyone needs to take a second look at the Dem. politicians. That's what our fore fathers, my ancestors strived for not the nanny state with a few elitist deciding how we are to be punished
Scot  writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 4:28 PM
Don't Drill Democrats
It seems appropriate they should be called the "Don't Drill Democrats", since Carlos Mencia uses "DDD" (verbally) when talking about anyone who is, shall we say, not too bright.
Craig writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 4:19 PM
Drilling is an important part in the mix
The Democrats are right about one thing only. We cannot drill ourselves out of this. We ned to conserve, fin new energy sources and drill.

But we need to drill!! It is insane to allow the rest of the world to drill wherever they like while hindering ourselves. This is not to allow oil to lower to $1.00 per gallon but to prevent a disruption from the Middle East destroying our country.

Right now the United States gets 65% of its oil domestically, Canada and Mexico. If the US can increase it domestic supply 15% while reducing energy consumption of oil 15% (Def. not out of the realm of reality) we can be energy secure.

But the democrats need to really get on the ball. I have no doubt that John McCain is getting with the picture, but even if he wins he would need much fuller congessional support.

What we need is an enery champion on the left or the right. T Boone Pickens was right about congress on energy. These people are truly bottom rate.
Joe writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 3:43 PM
Road Map To McCain Victory
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/capital-commerce/2008/06/16/7-w ays-mccain-can-use-energy-to-beat-obama.html

Learn it, live it, love it.
Joe writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 3:34 PM
Mac says Dri!! Baby Dri!!
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91BBR280&show_arti cle=1
NK Chemist writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 3:29 PM
Obama, Pelosi, and the don't Drill Democ
The "alternative fuels" are a delusion. Ethanol from $7.00+ / bushel corn increases the price of gasoline [It also lowers the energy content, leading to fewer miles per gallon.]. The energy in ethanol is little more than the energy used to grow the corn, ferment the corn and separate the ethanol by distillation. Corn production depends on favorable weather conditions. Droughts or floods [see the news from Iowa ] can each lead to drastic drops in corn production.

Solar and wind power are intermittent, which leads to a need to store power. Technology for economical power storage is not available now.

The economically realistic solutions to our energy problem are more coal, nuclear power, and more production of oil and natural gas.
Dread writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 3:06 PM
Reply.
1.Then elect people who will change the law and do this. Call your representative's office and say you want less oil/coal and more nuclear power plants.

2. Somehow this country managed to build an interstate highway system that has largely served us well for decades. I see no reason why we couldn't accomplish adding more rail systems, solar panels, and providing even more of a tax credit (or an outright subsidy/check) to folks who purchase an alternative car other than that our politicians lack the will to do so.

3. Letting the oil companies drill in new areas will require new contracts. Up the fees/taxes collected on the oil obtained from new sites, use that money to provide greater tax breaks to people who buy alternative cars, use it to fund solar conversion for people who want it; use it to fund light rail projects.

[How about the FREE *BLEEPING* MARKET?]

We haven't had a free market in oil/energy in... well, forever.

And having a free market in oil/energy does not preclude the government from building up infrastructure such as additional rail projects. (Which, when gas was less than a dollar were boondoggles, but now that it's 4-5 dollars a gallon are viable alternatives and relief to citizens.)
Pat writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 2:54 PM
Thanks, Steve-o
Thanks for pointing out that so many other products are made from oil. I get so frustrated with the idiots that think we can just find "alternative fuels" and that would end our need for oil.

Oil drives our economy more than any other single thing. Not just for the obvious (gasoline and heating oil), but for the production of some 2,000 plus products that we use daily, for the farm machinery that's crucial for the production of the food we eat, for the means of getting products and goods to the market place. When the price of oil goes up, it impacts every part of our lives.

While drilling might not be an immediate solution to our problem, it is the only viable one for longer term. Until we have practical and affordable alternatives, it's extremely short-sighted to refuse the use of the vast resourced that this country has.


Old Lady writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 2:49 PM
Drill Drill Drill
Time to oust the enviornazis and take back our country. No one voted for them and they have never served we the people. Politicians created every problem we have and are trying to get us to re elected to fix them no wonder it gets worse.
Disband the EPA
Disband the Parks services etc.
Begin to vote out any congress person who doesn't get it.
Impeach the supreme court and make them irrelvant.
Sue the global warming fools or liars, they have to be one or the other.

Time for US TO REACH ACROSS THE AISLE and invite Dem voters to join us in taking back our country.
Frank writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 2:45 PM
Not + Smart = Dread
"I think we are being shortsighted if we don't begin to plan to switch off of oil and onto practical alternatives."

Let's go over your suggestions, Dread.

1.) Nuke plants? Call Pelosi and let me know how that goes. I'll even let you build the thing in my damn backyard. By the time you get the permits I'll have been dead for 148 years, so who cares.

2.) Solar? A few months ago I talked to a guy who refits houses with solar energy systems. You or anyone else figure out how to apply this to my life without me heading to bankruptcy court, and I'm all ears.

3.) Rail? Got an extra $1 billion in loose change hiding in your couch? Ooops, sorry. The price just went up another $1.3 billion 10 seconds ago.

3.) Trade drilling rights for increased taxes, blah, blah. What the hell is this crap?

How about the FREE *BLEEPING* MARKET? Gee, what the hell is that? I think it means the dang Kommie Chinese can drill close to our shores but we can't. Maybe not. After reading all the left wing brainiacs, I can't remember any more.
Dread writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 2:06 PM
Economics
[Of course the only way to get more oil and thus decrease the price is to in fact drill.]

Actually, you can decrease the price by attempting to reduce the demand side of the equation just as well as you can by increasing supply.

Understand, I don't have a moral or environmental issue with expanding drilling, but I think we are being shortsighted if we don't begin to plan to switch off of oil and onto practical alternatives.

- Build more Nuclear plants. (Ensure that they are accurately guarded.)

- Work out a bi-partisan plan to get every house (where it is realistically feasible) equipped with solar panneling, expand rail projects in major cities, and fund alternative engine research.

- Trade drilling rights for increased taxes or fees which can fund the above, and when domestic demand drops, sell the stuff overseas and bring some of those petrol dollars home.
RomanLion writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 2:06 PM
Uhhh, Hotrod?
Hotrod writes:"Closing the Borders and enforcing American immigration law is a winner for the GOP. "

Me: If that is the case, why did every GOP candidate who advocated this position go down in flames?

I think McCain will probably lose because the GOP brand name has been so sullied by war and recession. He's probably the best chance we have of not getting a total route.

The important thing is to work Hispanic voters, including the 12 million who will inevitably become citizens (nothing you can really do about it, haters) into the GOP tent. If we make the mistake we made in 1964, where Barry Goldwater's angry rhetoric drove blacks permanently into the Democratic Party, then we will be headed for political oblivion.

KGK writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 2:00 PM
Domestic resources
It is almost insane that liberals would think that snail darters and kangaroo rats are more important than the freezing of New England populaces in the winter, the oil, gas, natural gas depletions and price hikes the poor face(since they need cars to go to work), and the nonsense of public transportation taking the millions just in Ca to work, which goes along with this enviro insanity. The amount of natual resources that we have in our continental shelf, the hills of the Far West, and offshore oil is just enormous. Schumer, Waxman, Nan, Harry are just socialists who are not supporters of free enterprise or the free market. They are simply cowards as are the Stupid Party reps who fear to drill. Meanwhile, China, Brazil, India, even poor Mexico is drilling and finding new outlets on a daily level. No wave, wind, or batteries will help us out for another 50 years but libs just keep brainwashing the zombies who believe this insanity. McCain should be sat down by Mitch, Steve Forbes, Kay Bailey and told to explain to the public that we have the resources to aid both the consumer and our industries and btw, our military engine.
SEEHAWK writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 1:55 PM
Quit gripping and do something
I would urge all who care about America to go to Newt Gingrich's website: http://www.AmericanSolutions.com and sign his petition and get the "Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less" bumper sticker. Spend 30 minutes each and every day calling Washington Reps and Senator, and say "Drill here, drill now" Answer Leftists who parrot idiotic statements,"We can't drill our way out of this." with "And why NOT? Americans always get their problems solved themselves???"
We were loud and stopped the illegal immigrant amnesty, we can get this done too....everybody has to stop gripping and just get er done.
GOPsaver writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 1:55 PM
McCain is not the answer.
McCain is more of a DNC Socialist (d) then JFK was.

The RNC has two winning issues that could not only win the Presidency, they could win the House and the Senate back in 08. The guy standing in the way of a RNC victory in 08 is John McCain.

Both John McCain and Obama will be the best Presidents Mexico and Anti_American States will ever have. Just short of surrender. McCain and Obama will make the USA into the little sister of Mexico and both will continue to have Hippies running our energy policy or should I write lack of a energy policy.

The RNC needs to Torricelli McCain in order to save the middle class Blue Collar workers who are soon to compete with third world labor for jobs and wages thanks to people like Obama and McCain.

Closing the Borders and enforcing American immigration law is a winner for the GOP. Drilling for the vast oceans of oil in the USA is another winner for the RNC. McCain is as bad as any socialist (d) on both issues.

McCain has a snowballs chance in hell of winning my vote. For the first time I will be voting third party and making NO contributions to the former party of Ron Reagan.
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 1:46 PM
ChairmanMao
That must be why every time they discover a well-preserved human from that era, they always exhibit horrific wounds.
Steve-o writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 1:33 PM
We can't conserve our way out of this...
We can't solar our way out either. We can't wind our way out. We can't switchgrass, corn, sugar cane, hemp or hydrogen out way out. All alternatives should be developed, conservation is already in play. We just need one more thing to bridge the gap until alternatives are viable.

Oil Production.

By the way, a large fraction of oil use is NON-fuel in nature. Oil is used to produce: bike tires, shoes, CDs, plastics, computers, coolers, transparent tape, medicines, and hundreds of other articles we use every day. It is also used to lubricate machines that produce billions of other useful items. It is also used to heat buildings. You think oil too expensive? All alternatives cost much more per unit of energy produced.

The industrial sector is the second largest petroleum consuming sector and accounts for about 24 percent of all petroleum consumption in the U.S. Residential/Commercial and the electric utility sectors account for the remaining 9 percent of petroleum consumption.

Pointing at McCain is a red herring. He is just a candidate with no power. Congress collectively is the problem, with Democrats leading the obstruction of production. Increased demand from other countries is not going to decline, and alternatives can not produce enough to make up the difference.

America produces about half the oil it produced 20 years ago. Until we ramp up oil production, prices will remain at a level most Americn define as "too high."

I can handle those prices, but the poor, lower class and some in the middle class are being hurt badly. There will be a rebellion by voters. It will strike congress, since there is no answer from either presidential candidate.

ChairmanMao writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 1:29 PM
B. C. History
The Ice age was a critical ecological disaster. It was also the beginning of the world we live today. For early humans it was a hard time when many cultures disappeared.

When early humans were confronted by the great Ice Age ecological disaster, there was a proto-Liberal among the Neolithic men. He was a wimpy fellow who refused to hunt animals and mostly stayed back whining among the women.

“Is being snowing for forty days straight and it is all your fault,” he whimpered, “inventing fire and producing all those greenhouse gases,” the proto-Liberal continued, “we need to abandon all of our evil technology and go back to being apes in harmony with nature,” he proposed.

Fortunately, the hunters of that time after giving careful consideration to what the proto-Liberal had to say decided he was worthless and the very next day used him for bait. They killed a polar bear and feasted on it for five days.

And that is how Humans survived Climate Change
Joe writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 1:28 PM
Can we get Virginia Patriot a front row
seat to this event? I suspect he would have some "townhall" comments and questions for the candidates:

http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/06/ 16/mccain_proposes_la_raza_townhall
Ana Mus writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 1:24 PM
I suppose the Dems think this
alternative energy is going to appear overnight IF Obama wins the election? Lots of talk and still not immediate action. IF Obama were to take the WH, we would probably never see the light of day when it comes to alternative energy sources either.

Obama claims he knows how much the American people are hurting at the pocketbook, yet wants to build himself a basketball court at the WH at taxpayer expense IF he wins the election?
trent writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 1:22 PM
Pelosi Misunderstood
Nancy Pelosi was misunderstood when she said "you can drill your way out of this." What she meant was that you can't drill your way out of this as long as the Democrats are in power.
SAM writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 1:03 PM
Democrats and Energy
They are like watching a four-year old boy trying to tie his shoe when you're in a hurry. To start a fire, they'd rub two sticks, while anyone else would use a match and some kindling. These are NOT the people who can solve our problems.
Dustoff-507 writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 12:45 PM
Kimey baby!
Hate to break your heart. But the solor panels back them days were poor. They only worked ever so often and never produced enough output for their cost.

My home in San Diego had a solar water heater. After 6 years I got rid of it. I broke down every two years which cost big time. Leaked way to often and the storage tank went bad after 4 years. After all was said and done. I lost money having that system then just standard one.
Joe writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 12:37 PM
The rapid rise in oil prices is not
peak oil (at least not yet), it is a combination of factors that are acting as a "perfect storm" if you will to drive prices up.

What goes up will come down. The high prices are an incentive to oil producing countries to pump more from existing wells. It is incentive to everyone with common sense (obviously Democrats/Nancy Pelosi excluded) to drill for more oil to take advantage of the high prices. And the high prices do more to lower carbon emissions (by encouraging conservation) than any government imposed policy. That conservation will also bring prices down. Ultimately, higher prices will also depress economic growth and that will really drive down prices (due to less demand).

But this is a wakeup call that should (if we are smart) drive us to develop true energy independence. Ben Stein argues the correct course--government should attempt to private and institutional research for alternative engery sources and stay out of trying to punish oil companies for bringing oil to market and reaping profits. It is the drive for profits that will in the end get us out of this mess.
SAM writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 12:04 PM
Wake Up, McCain
McCain needs to come up with a comprehensive energy proposal that includes some amount of drilling in ANWR, offshore, and wherever else within the US. Then, he needs to beat the drum on nuclear power. He should also work with commodities experts to cut the legs out from underneath oil speculators. I admit that I don't know how on that one, but I hear about it often enough.

Right now, Democrats are unwilling to drill domestically, and they're petrified of nuclear power. All they want to do is build solar panels, build wind mills, and throw rocks at the oil companies. Does anyone think Obama, Pelosi, or Reid knows anything about these matters? I don't.

McCain can bury Obama right now with a bold, sensible program. It would provide a blueprint for energy independence, provide the springboard for improving the economy, and eliminate at least one reason (suspicion) for involvement overseas. That, plus bin Laden's head on a stick wins McCain the election.
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:51 AM
Saudi Arabia is gov't owned oil too
And they are among the poorest people on earth and declining. That is why the Saudi royals are in a panic and fear high prices will bring about alternative energy fast (they seem to be over estimating our Congress and presidential candidates).
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:45 AM
Interested conservative
I share your general sentiments but the problem is that even at $138 a barrel, oil is the cheapest liquid on earth already. Consider: if you paid $2.50 for that 12 oz cup of Starbuck coffee, that is the equivalent ti $560/bbl. You pay more for you bottled water, $225/bbl (a commodity you get for free from the tap) than you do for oil.
ChairmanMao writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:43 AM
Liberal oxymoron
"alternative energy"

Jimmy Carter gave Fidel Castro a 50 mile economic exclussionary zone in the Gulf of Mexico. Guess who is drilling there now?

Norks Hydro from Norway, and Spanish Company, Sherrit from Canada, OHCG from India and yes,

Hugo Chavez with Petroleos de Venzuela.

Thinking about it, maybe I should erase the prefix "oxy."
ChairmanMao writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:37 AM
American National Oil Co?
Response, one word.

AMTRAK

or should I say,

Medicare?

The world improves by inserting more private property, not more state property. Just compare the China of 1977 with the China of 2007.
Qweenmumof7 writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:35 AM
Biggesy
Your plan would actually work, and is working - in Venezeula. They got oil, their dictator is getting rich, but the people can't buy a loaf of bread. Last time I looked, they can drive the cars they can't afford to buy, but can't buy food.

Your plan makes sense to me. It's called Socialism. Fits better with the empty O-man, than with conservatives.
Qweenmumof7 writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:33 AM
Kimberly
Sure, bleame the dead former president. Easy target. How bout blaming a few live former presidents? Let's start with Carter and move our way north into Bush, Clinton and Bush. All have had pretty much no policy. Carter in particular squelced a lot of exploration on our own oil.

I lived through the 70's, of waiting in line to fill my tank on the odd days. I lived through stagflation. The only way to get out of this mess is to literely drill our way out.

Obama stands for change alright. I've 26 cents left from the 100 I put into my tank the other day. Guess I'll buy a stick of gum. It's becoming pretty clear to me the O in Obama stands for zero. Nothing. Nada. If he were smart, he'd announce drilling the second day in office. But he's not that bright. Just lucky.
Brett writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:28 AM
Don't Drill McCain
Hewitt, this is just one more issue where McCain reaches across the aisle to agree with the Democrats and the MSM.

McCain won't drill in ANWR or near the coasts because he is an idiot just like the Democrats.

How can any sane Conservative vote for McCain?

I am planning on voting for Chuck Baldwin of the US Constitution Party for President.

Interested Conservative writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:24 AM
"Oil is obtained only by drilling"
There's perhaps an inaccuracy worth noting here - before oil was obtained by drilling, it was obtained by killing and processing whales. At present prices, the market will shortly, if not already, provide oil by means other than drilling.

What nobody is discussing is that welcome, but severely dislocating changes, may be just ahead - namely, what happens if energy costs suddenly plummet? What happens if "oil" is manufactured in factories? What happens to the war on global warming/climate change/SUVs/development/profit/corporations as legal entities if oil costs $1 barrel?

Neither party seems remotely focussed on this, yet the dmeocrats will certainly credit federally funded research programs for what will almost certainly be individual initiative, and republicans will likely credit a favorable tax environment for supporting such breakthroughs. Both will miss the point.
JimP writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:17 AM
MAGGIE
Watch out, Maggie. Posting stuff like this will make Kim and the King mad at you.
RomanLion writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:16 AM
Kimberly, how old are you?
Seriously, because no one who lived through the Carter years would make an idiotic statement like this...

"Back in the late 70's, Carter established an effective goal of weaning America off of oil by promoting alternative energy policies. He placed solar panels on the WH to inspire the country to become independent of foreign oil, and plundering our own landscape in a shortsighted gluttony."

Sorry, I am old enough to remember Carter's presidency. What I recall was that there were gas lines because he froze the price of a gallon of gas, and the oil companies cut production. (Why make a product you'll lose money on). I remember keeping the thermostat at 65, which was really tough during those winters of 78 and 79. I recall my dad having to put a lock on his gas cap because punks were siphoning it out. I recall that oil prices shot up because the idiot pulled the rug out from under our ally, the Shah.

It should also be pointed out that Reagan did no remove the solar panels until 1986, when they caused a leak in the White House roof. So it wasn't the "up-yours, Carter" you make it out to be.
Chi-town Rebel writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:04 AM
Obama contributor Anti- American


This is unbelievable:

Ayham Alsammarae, Iraq’s slimy ex-Minister of Electricity under the Bremer and Allawi administrations, who had escaped from an Iraqi prison by hiring an American security company to break him out back in December 2006, has resurfaced in the Jordanian capital Amman where he gave a press conference today saying, among other things, that he hoped that the insurgency in Iraq “would continue [against U.S. occupation] and avenges the Iraqi people.”

Alsammarae, an Iraqi-American Chicagoan, added during remarks carried by Radio Sawa (Arabic link) that he had contributed the maximum allowable of $2,300 to Barack Obama’s campaign. But there’s another Obama link to Alsammarae: while serving as electricity minister Alsammarae had been involved in brokering deals in the Iraqi electricity sector for Antoin Rezko, Obama’s long-term friend and patron. Rezko is the Syrian-American hustler who was convicted of fraud in an Illinois court on the day that Obama secured the Democratic nomination.
JimP writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:03 AM
AGITPROP
As usual King Liberal (isn't that an oxymoronic name for a lib:king and liberal?) and Kimberly pollute the comments section with their Stalinist BS. Yawn. Kimberly, you still haven't responded to my suggestions for going after McCain at Carol Liebau's post about blaming. Mac is a Rep against the little man, he is obscenely rich, therefore he must be corrupt. Stop wasting your time and boring everyone with your REAGNBUSHHITLER talking points.
dskerman writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 11:00 AM
Reality Check
This issue is not a supply and demand issue.

The current price of a barrel of oil based only on supply and demand would be around 80 as it was until the speculators left the housing market and turned to the oil and commodity markets to make a quick buck.

In addition to the speculators the lack of available refining capacity and a lack of refining investment causes large instability in the market as a single refinery shutting down for any reason has large implications on the amount of useable fule sources.

Our amount of crude is currently not the problem. Allowing costal drilling as a knee jerk reaction would be a mistake.
Pasadena Phil writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 10:51 AM
Remind me again
Does McCain support drilling for oil in ANWR, off the California and Florida coasts and inland? Why would the Dems pay in November when the GOP holds the same position? Isn't this one of the many reasons why the GOP is no longer in the majority? Why won't the GOP Congressmen take the lead on this? It is true that we can't drill our way out of this but drilling will buy us a lot of time and avoid a depression.
Frank writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 10:48 AM
absolute morons
I can accept a certain amount of BS and stupidity from Washington DC people. But these Don't Drillers are beyond pathetic.

Scratch that - the ones who are beyond pathetic are Republicans who could clean 233 F-ing clocks in the House and 49 F-ing clocks in the Senate this November with Drill Now part of their campaign. I have little faith they will press the issue, and about half a dozen others that would guarantee victory and prevent this great country from being run into the ground.

Idiots.

Typhoon writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 10:45 AM
"No you can't..."
Everyone in the country should take up the mantra...

When a Democrat says "We can't drill our way out of this problem" we should answer...

"Yes we can!"
Joe writes: Monday, June, 16, 2008 10:17 AM
"You can't drill your way out..."
Well even if that were true (which it is not), exploring for more oil certainly helps mitigate prices. I agree with Nancy that alternative fuels are the future, but to suggest we should stop even looking for oil is (as James Lileks stated) bizzaro.
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