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If so, wouldn't that be an awesome ability in a president? |
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This momentum will continue to favor Romney, Crist may slow it a bit although it won't make up 6 pts..... Thinking about endorsements, has an endorsement ever caused you to change your mind or break one way or the other.
Romney will take FL by 5 plus pts on Tuesday..... |
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A lot of voters will be going to McCain. The Rasmussen poll was done before that announcment (which came yesterday evening). |
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Looks and acts like a demonrat. McCain's choice for VP as reward for endorsement? |
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Let's hope this lead keeps up until Tuesday and BEYOND!! GO MITT!!
Mom in Wisconsin |
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of the ARG poll that showed McCain up 5% yesterday, Mr. Hewitt? Ah yes, I forgot how you cherry-pick your propaganda well for Mittens. Don't let the rest of the story get in the way of your strange man-crush. |
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In launching the ad the McCain campaign also released a statement from U.S. Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger and former CIA Director R. James Woolsey:
"We couldn't disagree more with Governor Romney's recent suggestion that foreign policy experience really doesn't matter when it comes to evaluating who should be our next president and commander in chief. America is at war. Our military forces are engaged in Iraq, in Afghanistan and elsewhere against a determined, vicious enemy. We are facing serious challenges, in a nuclear-armed Pakistan, in Latin America with the rise of Hugo Chavez, and in other corners of the globe. In such dangerous times, John McCain has the necessary experience and judgment to strengthen our national security and lead our nation and allies. He has had extensive contact with foreign leaders and military officials. John McCain has been on the ground in many of the world's hot spots, including several trips to Iraq and Afghanistan, and also the tribal areas of Waziristan. As an ex-Navy pilot and POW, he understands first-hand how political decisions in Washington impact those serving in our Armed Forces. On Iraq, John McCain's experience and judgment served him well. For years, despite public opinion, he called for a surge of forces and a new strategy in Iraq to prevail against our enemies -- a strategy that is now succeeding. In contrast, Governor Romney, with no national security experience, was a follower on Iraq, while John McCain showed strong leadership and vision."
http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/01/mccains_ex perience.html |
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Scares me a bit, since most primary voters are stll pretty uninformed about candidates. So, lets at least hope that a significant fraction of potential McCain votes actually made their way into envelopes for Rudy some time ago
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Here is that ARG poll by the way: http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres08/flrep8-707.html It is from yesterday and shows McCain up 5 points in Florida (McCain 31% and Romney 26%). |
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Rich Lowry (who is no McCain fan) said this about Mitt Romney on Iraq just about a year ago today:
"But [for Mitt Romney] to speak for 50 minutes or so and not to talk about the Iraq war before a conservative audience at a crucial moment in that war is bizarre and just wrong and almost offensive in my view. This doesn't seem like an oversight. He went out of his way to check off every conservative box—except the one that is politically risky at the moment."
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTU0NzEyZjIzMTI5Yz ZiYjgxMjY3MTM4YTIzMjY4NTA=
McCain has the personal courage to jump in and do what he thinks best. Mitt Romney prefers to see how the wind is blowing politically before taking a position (and then he is very fluid about changing too if the wind shifts). |
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these polls is that they show Rudy falling far behind. I still think he will get the lion's share of the early and absentee votes, but please let him be gone. Then I'll at least know I will be able to vote in the general election. |
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a "below the belt" post about Mitt's amensty charge on McCain..I am sure Hugh did; he is very fair and objective about these things... |
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Big surprise? Not!!
McCain filed a brief in the Supreme Court with several DEMOCRATS against the Wisconsin Right to Life organization challenging its right to run informative ads prior to an election. Wisconsin Right to Life won.
McCain claims a solid pro-life record, but when push came to shove he opted to use his anti-free speech law to muzzle a pro-life group. McCain also claims he’ll appoint conservative judges, but–
The blunt fact is that such judges would be innately hostile to schemes like campaign finance reform, a signature McCain issue. It is not for nothing that Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Alito were in the majority ruling against McCain’s side in the Wisconsin Right to Life case last term.
McCain went 0-3 in that one case, against freedom of speech, against right to life and against the two conservatives President Bush has appointed to the SCOTUS. McCain didn’t have to file an amicus brief in this case. He chose to, making himself a partisan with the DEMOCRATS in it.
The problem with McCain is the battles he chooses to fight and the enemies he chooses to make. McCain consistently chooses the wrong battles and makes enemies out of the very people he now expects to carry him to the White House.
McCain will NEVER be President!!!!!!
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CW: Tell us what a liar Mitt Romney is?
CW: You and John are telling the truth and Mitt is lying. Why?
CW: Mitt says JM s a liar? Is Mitt a liar?
What a disgusting interview. Horrible. Could be from the dailyKos. |
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With the New York Times questioning the truthfulness of McCain's statement yesterday and the media finding that McCain took a similar position, it looks like McCain has been caught in his own trap. Voters don't do well with dishonesty. The "Straight Talk Express" has just run out of gas!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tu-tg1kQ8dk&eurl=http://race 42008.com/
With Obama winning last night by a big margin it would appear that the Democrats will be electing a youthful candidate who is a proponent of change. Obama is articulate. Contrast this with McCain. McCain will probably fall asleep during the future debates and will not remember what his name is! The only hope for the Republicans is Romney! |
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Florida Gov. Charlie Crist will spend time stumping with John McCain in the final two days before the critical primary here.
Briefly addressing reporters in the back of the St. Pete hotel ballroom where he threw his support to McCain at a Republican dinner, Crist said he made his up mind who to vote for earlier in the week but only decided to go public earlier today.
"You know, it’s a gut thing," Crist said, standing next to McCain. "And I just feel in my heart he’s the right man for the job at the right time. He’s a great leader. He’s a true American hero, and I’m honored to stand with him today."
Crist said he would "absolutely" hit the campaign trail for the Arizonan tomorrow and Monday.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0108/Crist_to_ stump_with_McCain_no_deal_on_cat_fund.html
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Will be noted not for how they helped the candidate but for how they cost the endorser his/her credibility. Does anyone feel better about Huckleberry now that Hunter endorsed him? Voters are angry across the board and don't appreciate being told who to vote for. We are not going to calm down. |
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Given their horrendous results thus far in the primaries for both races, I'd say bringing them up is not a good idea...
Kind of like bragging about a NY Times endorsement...
The big issue is the endorsement and what that does to the Republicans and undecideds...
I doubt many conservatives will change their minds given disdain for McCain...
Some of the bump from Crist may be off set by McCain's blatant lie about Romney's comments on Iraq, though... |
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Do you care that the number of Dems in the SC primary exceeded the number of Repubs? SC is a staunchly Red state. Are you getting a clue yet? |
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Hugh Hewitt opines that:
McCain must win Florida, or his campaign will be revealed for the anti-GOP base coaltion I suspect it really is.
The implication is that Hugh’s man Romney is the real Republican in the race. I don;t buy that, given Romney’s history of flip flops, and it seems neither did a lot of New Hampshire voters.
Jim Geraghty reports on numbers from CNN:
Romney and McCain were almost even among those who identified themselves as Republicans, with 33 and 34 percent, respectively.
That’s more along the lines of what I expected.
And Hugh’s own fellow Townhall blogger Patrick Ruffini writes that:
I don’t think we’ve assimilated the fact that Mitt Romney was never going to resurrect the Bush coalition.
http://www.stephenbainbridge.com/punditry/comments/whos_the _real_republican_mccain_or_romney/ |
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The honerable, upstanding, tell-it-like-it-is, John McCain actually telling it like it NOT is about Mitt Romney.
And caught in his lie by his own endorsing paper, the New York Times, and by the Associated Press.
Are we seeing a chink in McCain's character, or was his lie born of too many years hanging around and lunching with the Pat Laheys and the Chuch Schumers and the Hillary Clintons (I hear they are very close) in the Senate?
Time for the current failed management to step aside and let the consultant come in and save the company. |
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As Professor Bainbridge has noted, for some reason, Romney has been able to claim the Reagan mantle despite his support for:
A health care plan virtually indistinguishable for the one proposed by Hillary Clinton;
Support for No Child Left Behind, calls for increased federal education spending, and a proposal to have the federal government give a laptop computer to every schoolchild in America;
Calls for increased farm price supports;
Support for the Medicare prescription drug benefit; and
An undistinguished record on taxes and spending as Massachusetts governor, earning a C on Cato’s governor’s report card, and including support for $500 million in increased fees and corporate taxes |
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Re: Endorsements...
But if say Jeb Bush endorses your man Romney, that would be the biggest news, right? No other endorsements matter - just the one that come Mitt's way..spoken like a true Hugh rear-kisser |
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Sure there was...
Especially, when you have a blatant hit job by Billy Boy injecting the color of one's skin into the race, it's sure to fire up the base...
Even on the way out he couldn't wait to disparage Obama by saying that Jackson won their twice when the question he was answering never included Jackson...
Hmmm...
So much for being the "First Black President" and understanding everyone's "pain"...
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Crist supported the Teddy Kennedy/McCain/Mel Martinez shamnesty. Crist also supported driver’s licenses for illegal aliens.
Another great endorsement. The gift that keeps on giving. Hey, the "Joe method" worked for Rudy and Paul, why stop now? |
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Hugh will no doubt spend much of his Monday show destroying Charlie Crist. Crist is now dead to Hugh. Hugh will say that Domino's Pizza endorsed Romney and that's more important. Hugh will tel his listeners not to send money to Crist's re-election bid in 2010.
I suspect the Ken doll will win Florida, but I don't think it will mean much. McCain still leads in New York, California, New Jersey, and other super Tuesday states. No one has gotten a bounce and neither will the corporate raider.
Hugh will misinterpret the win, just watch. |
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Mitt will win....period.
This is a closed GOP primary only....Mitt will win. |
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Lose with purity in 2008! |
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Joe the internet troll....do what Michael Savage would say to you....drop dead with your anti-Mitt crap. |
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New Rasmussen National Poll coming out showing Mitt and McCain tied... |
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Christ pledge to endorse Rudy.....his finger in the air...oh my gosh...I'll go with McLame because he is leading Rudy. |
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"If that comes to pass the GOP will have to understand that sending an aging John McCain..."
Identity politics are raising their ugly head on the so-called "center-right." A guy in his 70s (like Reagan) is too old, while a guy in his 60's is just right?
Why doesn't the age issue make 52 year-old Mike Huckabee better than ALL the sexagerians and the septuagenrian?
BTW, Hugh, in case you hadn't realized, we are all "aging" at the identical rate of one year per year. Even Dick Clark and Mitt Romney. |
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Smiling Juan Hernadez
We know who he is, we know his loyalties are to Mexico, we know he wants to erase our borders and immigration laws.
JOHN MCCAIN, YOU NEED A NEW HEARING AID
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John McCain went on NBC's Meet the Press this morning and pulled out a piece of paper. He then proceeded to read Mitt Romney's actual words.
Mitt stated that he supports timetables for withdrawal. No he didn't support public ones or ones issued by the Congress. But he did support private "timetables for withdrawal".
Now Mitt is saying he never said that. And here comes the panderer Mitt and all of his sophist supporters screaming, almost crying, that Mitt never said he supports "timetables for withdrawal"
I am sorry but lying about this will fool no one. The words are there for everyone to see.
Now Hugh knows this which is why he changed his tactics. Now he is only talking about which new Mitt supporter is crying and continuing the Mitt lie - like anyone cares who these people are. If these people came forward and said "Well, as you know, I am a Romney supporter but on this one McCain obviously read Mr. Romney's words and my guy did say in April of last year that he supported timetables for withdrawal" - then that would be newsworthy. But to come out parroting the same lie that Mitt is now spinning simply makes Mitt look worse.
And Hugh's second tactic is the favorite of sophists: the old bait and switch. It's truly amazing but apparently Hugh thinks his readers are so dumb that they will confuse benchmarks with timetables.
LMAO - poor Hugh - he has had some very bad weeks and it is showing. |
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Questions for illegal apologists like John McCain:
Why does The National Council of the Race (la raza in spanish) and the Chamber of Commerce get to negotiate a "Comprehensive Shafting of The American Citizens" behind closed doors? Since when does an organization representing foreign nationals breaking our laws get to rewrite our immigration laws to suit the lawbreakers? Isn't this akin to allowing NAMBLA to rewrite our laws regarding child predators? Or allowing organized crime syndicates to rewrite racketeering, gambling, prostitution, and extortion laws?
We The People are being told by our representatives that we should sit down and shut up while they invite in the entire world. We The People should get some say in this matter. Another amnesty will set off a stampede like we have never seen before. There is not much time to save our country. All the money and power are on the side of shoving this amnesty down our throats. The RNC wants an amnesty candidate, don't vote for one. |
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If Hugh has made any pretension of a shred of objectivity, I certainly wish he would give it up at this point. This poll doesn't factor in the Cris endorsement. Also, Guiliani's support is (regrettably) collapsing, support that is likely to shift to McCain. |
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I got a different impression from the Huckleberry interview on Fox. It seemed to me that Wallace was trying to force Huck to reconcile his "no negative campaigning" claim when he was quick to echo McCain's phony claim about the "secret" benchmarks. Wallace bluntly stated that maybe he was doing McCain's bidding to earn an appointment (VP?) in a Huckleberry admin. Huck fell for it by claiming that he is just trying to run a civil campaign. The hypocrisy and slime just oozed out of his pores. It was pretty clear to me that it highlighted how Romney's foes are ganging up on him by conspiring to slime him with dirty tricks. |
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and drivers licenses for illegals?
Giuliani...Giuliani...wait for it...McCain.
It is interesting.
Absolutely no pandering here.
A bit of a surprise actually.
McCain will be tough on the dems, he sure will. Working across the aisle will not mean handing over the reins as it has in the past. No way, Americans have spoken and McCain will listen...now. |
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"nparga23 writes: Sunday, January, 27, 2008 11:19 AM
Joe the dummy
Joe the internet troll....do what Michael Savage would say to you....drop dead with your anti-Mitt crap."
After spending more money than his major opponents combined, Romney appears more and more clearly unelectable, and a Saturday column by Gail Collins in the New York Times gives a clear explanation why. “Unfortunately, there’s something about Romney’s perfect grooming, his malleability and his gee-whiz aura that seems to really irritate both the other candidates and the voters,” she writes. “What bothers voters about Romney, as it turns out, is not his Mormonism but his inherent Mitt-ness.”
She’s right, of course. As I’ve said repeatedly over the last several weeks, the problem for Romney isn’t his faith, it’s his phoniness. It’s even worse to see that in-authenticity combined with an all-too-visible mean and nasty streak in going after his rivals.
http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/56375486-5a44-49eb -b0ff-7002afd5d0bf
I happen to believe that Romney has fatally damaged his once-promising $100 million campaign by the flood of negative ads shamefully distorting the record of his various opponents.
http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/a52da5d2-10bf-4ac1 -948f-40bb9972db73
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Enough already. Hugh never pretended to be objective. He is NOT a reporter. Have you guys discovered yet that he wrote a book on Romney recently? Huh! I wonder what THAT is about! Either say something useful or go away. Maybe you and your friends can get together in Joe's mountain cabin until the elections are over. |
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This is a much bigger deal than Crist's endorsement of the Juanster.
"I am proud to support Governor Romney. Throughout this campaign, he has distinguished himself as a leader who can guide our country with a clear vision for overcoming the threats we face today. Dedicated to the success of our missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, Governor Romney is the only candidate who has outlined a comprehensive strategy for defeating the global Jihadist threat. I look forward to working with Governor Romney, because he is the leader our country needs," said Liz Cheney.
Making today's announcement, Governor Romney said, "Liz Cheney brings to our campaign years of experience helping to formulate America's foreign policy and to advance democracy and reform in the Middle East. She understands that to defeat this global Jihadist threat we have to help Muslim nations reject the violent extreme. I am honored that she will be joining our team."
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Comparing today's national Rasmussen poll to last Sunday's yields what is to me an odd result. Sunday to Sunday is a good comparison as the Ras daily average poll is known to have weekly cycles. Last Sunday's poll included Fred. By today, the entire poll has had the Fred component eliminated. So what do we find?:
Romney +7% up to 27% support,
McCain +4% up to 27% support,
Huckabee -1% down to 16% support,
Giuliani +8% up to 14% support.
I can undersatand all those except for that last. It makes no sense. Did Rudy get the biggest post-Fred bounce of anyone? If it's Fred-related, why? If not, what is it? Is it just the imprecision of polling?
If this is a legitimate movement, depsite Rudy's well-documented fades in FL, NY, NJ, etc., it's remarkable. Especially since he IS fading in those states, which means he must be up greatly everywhere else in order to almost have doubled his overall support despite being on the decline in some pretty significant states. |
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Supporting a candidate doesn't mean you have to be incessantly in super-spin mode. You can be behind someone while still being intellectual honest...at least occasionaly. |
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When Hillary and/or Obama win and allow the flood of aliens in, and start taxing you to death to pay for national health care (which will cost a fortune and feel like something from the Dollar Store) and we feel like we are living a self imposed version of Red Dawn, you are welcome to my mountain hole too. Bring your snowshoes, you will probably need them. |
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If it finally comes to McCain Vs. Mrs William Clinton, I will vote for McCain, if it is a McCain/Obama fight, I will just stay home on election day.
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To say I am nonplussed by this whole campaign process is putting it lightly. It's too long, among other unsavory characterics.
Indeed, one could say I am suffering, at the very least I am suffering from:
Electile Dysfunction,
The inability to become aroused over any of the choices for president in the 2008 election year.
But, Hugh, please, if you are going to quote statistics, why not quote several of them. For instance, RealClearPolitics.com is reporting that Romney and McCain are tracking "dead even" (only tenths of percentage points ar eseparating them). There is at least one other "high visibility" poll which has the two of these candidates at 30% each.
Really, Hugh, I don't give too much attention to this process were in at moment. I will be in a few months, and passionately so.
However, I do enjoy reading your stuff (other than the boorish campaigning crapola). It's challenging to wade through the chaff----especially when you pick some inane poll, and ignore other polls which may be considered just as silly.
Is Rasmussen really any better than RealClearPolitics, or Zogby? I do not think so.
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What's the likelihood of anyone who has been called names for wanting the gov't to actually enforce the laws, to vote for those jamming amnesty down our throats?
McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Leiberman. Leadership like this I can do without.
Carbon taxes, constitutional rights for Gitmo detainees and amnesty for illegal aliens await us no matter who wins, whoopee!!!
It does not matter to most conservatives who wins an amnesty vs amnesty, liberal vs liberal contest, the results are the same.
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Russert held nothing back, excellent interview. In fact it was a pretty critical interview of McCain with nothing being asked that was in his favor. McCain still defended positions that are flat out wrong... Fact of the matter is if he's the nom many will not vote or vote Dem. If the country is about to go down hill in the next 4 yrs I like others would rather have it under the dem leadership.
In regards to the Iraq stmt... Anyone that doesn't think the Pres and PM of Iraq don't have objectives based on timelines are out of their mind. Mitt is right that these are not for public knowledge. In fact didn't Old Man McCain come out with a stmt on Thurs stating that there needed to be objectives?
Romney will win the Republican nom and polls will trend in his being on par or being able to take Obama/Clinton. Watch and see! |
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6 point lead in Rasmussen!
No wonder McShame was getting desperate and hitting Romney "below the belt". McAmnesty really gets petty and desperate when his political future is at risk. He did the same thing in 2000, when GW took his liberal media momentum away.
McCain is an old, desperate man. His physical health is deteriorating before our very eyes. His skin looks like it's about to fall off his face. He "forgets" making quotes about his total lack of economic knowledge that he just made a month ago. He ducks any question that talks about specifics.
When asked how he could be a conservative after voting against tax cuts on the basis of them "only going to the rich", writing the amnesty bill, promising to give your social security to illegals and filing a brief against the 1st amendment rights of pro-life advocates, his only reply is that he's pro-war and has a bunch of old Washington conservatives who have endorsed him (and want a position in his cabinet).
Romney is running away with Florida! |
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You must be new to politics. Maybe you need to join a discussion group at your local library. Otherwise, get a helmet and keep the whiney lectures to yourself. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox9PjgAmYN8&feature=related
You guys are gonna love this one. |
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Get on the MAC TRAIN!
John McCain has been building a block of votes in Fl that reaches across all kind of different groups of Republicans in which Romney will lose, a close, yet defining election in Florida. Romney's worst nightmare has come true in the latest endorsments of the SEN & GOV of FL.
Martinez and Crist will work their GOTV operations for McCain. With Rudy out of it this pushed mcCain over the goal line.
Thank you for boarding the train Gov.Crist I hope you have a pleasant trip to St. Paul
ALL ABOARD! |
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We should not undertake any immigration reform until after another Presidential election. This President has shown his loyalties are not to American citizens on this issue. Personally, I believe we need Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement, not reform. We have the laws, what we don't have is any enforcement. Without enforcement, laws are meaningless.
McCain's plan will be no different than 1986. The borders could have and should have been secured September 12, 2001. But that would have disrupted the cheap labor express and the RNC could not disappoint its contributors. So the problem has doubled as enforcement went from inadequate under Clinton to nonexistent under Bush. Now they will try to jam another amnesty down our throats. The question remains, will we let them?
We should not undertake any immigration reform until Ted Kennedy is gone. He is largely responsible for the 1965 legislation that led to the 1986 amnesty that led to last years amnesty. Before 1965 we allowed approx. 250,000 people in legally each year. He told us we would not have a million each year, we do. Legally. We also have a million a year coming in illegally which was supposed to have been fixed by the one time only amnesty of 1986. Author: Ted Kennedy. Ted Kennedy has inserted provisions into this bill which would make it impossible to deport anyone, even those who already have deportation orders. He has fixed it so we will get to pay for the lawyers for the illegals to contest their cases. As far as any enforcement goes we are just supposed to believe them that this time they really, really mean it.
Yeah, right.
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I am waiting for patroitic Liberal to chime in. As he opined on your blog a couple of days ago on "Talk Radio", conservatives really do need people like his ilk for fashioning and formulating our opinions, ideas, values.
After all, we have none of our own.
It's the visits by these very charitable, giving, selfless Liberals, who only happen by here and your radio program to help cons to calibrate their positions.
Yes, indeed, I have no further thoughts, comments, ideas, values until I hear from the likes of PL+LP+iLP+LiP, Prig-gsy, LaboriousLawyer. Oh woe is me....where are these schoes when you really need them? |
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LOL Pasadena. You seem like quite the neophyte yourself to think that in order for a pundit to support a candidate he needs to throw intellectual honesty in the dumpster. |
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At least the party won't have to take credit for the dnc failed policies. With mccain, you get a tired old man who is best buddys with the clintons - this from the male clinton himself. So, why vote gop, when all your going to get is blame for everything?
Someone needs to tell the old guy that Putin is from the Soviet Union, and not from Germany. |
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Any pro-amnesty endorsements for ANY candidate would be the kiss of death with me. I am a conservative, not a Republican. If Romney turns out to be a bipartisan, open-borders, one-world liberal at any time, I will not vote for someone else. If the GOP insists on nominating a democrat, I will vote for the Democrat. I would rather get stabbed in the chest with a chance to fight than get stabbed in the back by a "friend". This election is about a very angry electorate (in both parties) against the establishment. Unless the GOP can convince the 33% of registered voters who describe themselves as conservatve that they will govern on conservative principles, there is no reason to vote for them and they will have nothing to build on for many, many years. The next president will be greeted by a very, very bad economy. For the GOP to win or lose with a liberal will be the end of the party. The House GOP Caucus is pushing a "no earmarks" pledge. That is the beginning of a plan for 2010. The GOP will need to clean house to make it work. If Romney turns out to be just another poseur, it won't matter. He's the only hope right now and the House GOP is getting its act together. |
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Blatant lie?
McCain went on Meet the Press and read the Bishop's very words. He clearly supports 'timetables for withdrawal'.
For you, Mitt and Hugh to deny this just shows how pathetic you liars are.
But I can understand, you and your ilk have read the tea leaves and you know its over for your panderer. And now you are grasping at straws.
You know people have always said Mitt Romney has no class - it's more than obvious that his cheer leaders (most of whom are identity politics voters) have no class. But it's really sad when someone loses with out any class. That's how they end up being remembered.
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Drop the personal attacks. We all know trolls when they appear. Making it personal in the virtual world is the height of intellectual dishonesty. I have been posting my views on my own blog for over a year so readers can judge for themselves whether I am being dishonest. Why don't YOU crawl out from under that rock and start your own blog so we can be enlightened by your "wisdom"? Yeah, didn't think so. You're just another Joe polluting everyone else's blogs. You're a chicken$hit. |
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Sure, we'll be living out of caves when the Dems win.
Contrast with brilliant Reep governance: an eroding dollar, borrow-and-spend fiscal tactics, skyrocketed energy prices, the Iraq sinkhole, and an impending global sale of American companies and real estate. Sorry, pal, those conceits from yesteryear about the GOP being the party of sound economic policy are, in the words of a very bad song, dust in the wind. |
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"If Romney turns out to be a bipartisan, open-borders, one-world liberal at any time, I WILL VOTE FOR SOMEONE ELSE." (Most likely third party.) |
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Regarding your 12:03 post, I just love the fact that I am always on your mind (to paraphrase from a slightly better tune), although I sometimes wonder at the stability of that mind.. |
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"When Hillary and/or Obama win and allow the flood of aliens in, and start taxing you to death to pay for national health care (which will cost a fortune and feel like something from the Dollar Store) and we feel like we are living a self imposed version of Red Dawn, you are welcome to my mountain hole too. Bring your snowshoes, you will probably need them."
Hunh? I'll give you three guesses who co-sponsored the McCain-Kennedy Amnesty bill. Hint: one of them is running for president. You have to be one of the dumbest commenters at TH. |
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Here is the link to the Meet the Press interview
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22867420#22867420
TexMess is leading you to believe that McCain was referring to some "new" quote where Romney is advocating for Withdrawal. He and McCain are still telling a bald face lie using the same quote and trying to spin it to say what it does not say.
Here is the quote from April of 2007 from Romney on GMA:
"In an interview with ABC News in 2007, Romney said: "There's no question that the president and (Iraqi) Prime Minister al-Maliki have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about. But those shouldn't be for public pronouncement. You don't want the enemy to understand how long they have to wait in the weeds until you're going to be gone."
Did Romney say what those timetables were? Where they for withdrawal - which Romeny was on record in other interviewers being expressly against?
Here is Bush from February of 2007
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/0 2/16/AR2007021601461.html
"...We appreciate the fact that he's beginning to meet the benchmarks that he set out for his people," Bush said..."
and
"...Bush said his new ambassador, if confirmed, will carry "a message of urgency to the Iraqi government that our patience is not unlimited and that we expect that government to perform."
Sure Sounds like Bush is confirming what Romney said two months later. In TexMess's twisted world I quess Bush is a cut and run, wave the white flag, retreat in defeat liberal too. |
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they're going to sit out the election if McCain wins or if Mitt wins--that's nonsense. I swear, you guys are like a preening Senorita, trying to play hard to get. When November rolls around, you'll trundle off and vote for the guy with an R next to his name.
It is the less engaged voters, that half of the electorate who does not track these things carefully, who may or may not vote. |
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As a purely objective analyst of this race (oh man you know that just made the Bishopbots burst a vein, lol), I have no idea who will win Florida nor do I really care about the polls as they are as right as they are wrong.
However I completely agree with you when you wrote, "Romney's worst nightmare has come true in the latest endorsements of the SEN & GOV of FL."
It was a very bad day for the Bishop. Then add on top of that McCain's exposing of Mitt's pro-timetables for withdrawal statement and then his victimhood lying denial - which he is continuing to parrot even though the media has shown his very words from that April interview with NBC.
Yet, Romney may win tomorrow - and here is why - Rudy and Huck are still in the race. But after tomorrow if Huck and Rudy dont come in 1st or 2nd they are out of the race. They may hang in but in their gut they will know it is over. AND that is when the dynamics drastically changes against Romney. Why? Because both Huck and Rudy will endorse McCain.
I advised Mitt Romney to drop out of the race and save his money after his landslide loss in SC. He will wish he had listened to me soon!
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Who is saying they will sit out the election if Mitt wins the nom?
From my observation the only ones crazy enough to say such an asinine statement are Bishop supporters.
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Do you Republicans want the New York Times to pick our candidate? If so, vote McCain. |
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I'm waiting for the cartoon with McCain dressed as a p*mp, Miss America dressed as a hooker with a "Citizenship" banner, and McCain making deals with illegal aliens who are drooling over the hooker's "assets". maybe i'll have to draw it myself. |
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It is so funny to watch you dissemble. You are lying - your Bishop is lying and his cheerleaders, like Hugh, are lying.
Everyone who is not a Mittbot knows he is lying.
This is what Mitt said when asked about "timetables for withdrawal":
"There's no question that the president and (Iraqi) Prime Minister al-Maliki have to have a series of timetables and milestones that they speak about."
There is "no question" that Mitt believes we should have "timetables for withdrawal".
Go spin you crap on Huffington where people are stupid enough to believe your lies!
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Well you better break out your crayons then. |
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Still making up "facts" I see.
I'm still waiting for you to show me your MFA (McTex's Frakkin Asumption) from a legitimate source. LOL!!!! |
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I have not heard anyone on here say they will sit out. I have heard many say (myself included) that they will not vote for McCain in the general election if he gets the nomination. I could probably vote for all of the other candidates running on the Republican ticket, although it would be tough to vote for Huckabee (Im not including Paul in this discussion).
If McCain gets the nomination, I will most likely look at the Reform Party, Constitution Party, or Libertarian Party's candidate. My conscience will not permit me to vote for a man who has already demonstrated his desire for amnesty, his disdain for lower taxes, and his animosity towards freedom of speech. Sorry he's not getting my vote! |
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I think your words speak for themselves. Whenever someone launches a profane personal attack it usually means that they are running on intellectual fumes. By the way, you'll forgive me for not being supremely impressed by the fact that you have a blog, which any idiot with a computer can create. |
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I'll see if McCain is finished with them. |
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Well TexMess is McCain in favor of cut and run and retreat in defeat if Iraq does not meet timelines and benchmarks that MCCain would establish? From an Interview in one year ago yesterday.
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/byauthor/166271
"McCain said Thursday that he hadn't yet decided on precise benchmarks. "They'd have to be specific, and they (Iraqi government officials) would have to meet them," he said.
Asked what penalty would be imposed if Iraq failed to meet his benchmarks, he said: "I think everybody knows the consequences. Haven't met the benchmarks? Obviously, then, we're not able to complete the mission. Then you have to examine your options."
Unlike you I will be fair to McCain. He, like Romney, did not state what or if they supported any currently established timelines or benchmarks.
But a fair reading of Bush, McCain and Romney on this issue shows NO difference. |
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I understand---however, what gives you pause for "wonderment", about the "stability of my mind", is simply an inability of mine, to think for myself---as you so succinctly state in Hugh's blog about "talk radio" (I do appreciate your desire for armchair psychology---you giver, you)
But, you are stalling. You are holding back. What I need, what all conservatives really need, from you, is your daily pablum---so we can all get through another day. |
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If Obama wins, and mccain wins - I'll vote for Obama. This from a life long conservative who follows politics and does not want my adopted country to turn out like my country to the north.
If hill/bill win I suppose I will have to vote against. Not sure yet, hoping for an independent run, but how? I think the level of discourse will be so bad and bill will be roaming the white house halls looking for interns and then telling us how much he loves his little lady. Yuk! Almost as bad as gore's tongue lashing kiss at the convention. Yuk, again!
I guess it would give the clintons another chance to empty the white house on their way out, and register for wedding gifts for their million$ home.
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Just went to McCain because of the Gov's endorsement. You see Romney hasn't played well in the cultural south. In SC and Louisiana this really hurt Romney. He couldn't even compete. Florida is differnet then in any Southern state and Romney has shown some strength. But the Govenor's "gut" endorsement of McCain sends a message more about Romney then McCain. The message is - ROMNEY ISN'T ONE OF US
With the Govenor going around the state with McCain for the next two days, it also send this message-
It's ok...you can vote for McCain....you can even tell your neighbors.....because as Govenor I just told the whole state that I'm for McCain!!!
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HE was selectively editing last night to try and force a quote to fit his preconcieved outcome and continues to do so today.
I await with batd his breathe his ANALysis of McCains call for Timestables and benchmarks.
Are those crickets I hear?
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McTex, there are arguments to be made for all of the R candidates this year. Some IMO are stronger than others.
But the puerile nastiness you spew here is particularly noteworthy. I would brush it off if it weren't a slightly more childish version of McCain at his worst.
I wonder if you realize how you affect someone like me, who is still deciding who to support? And who can donate - once I figure out who I'm willing to entrust my money to. |
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Anyone who thinks McCain is in favor of lower taxes needs to visit the "Americans for Lower Taxes" website and see what they have to say about their beloved "maverick" He is the only Republican candidate still in the race that will not sign the No New Taxes Pledge. Furthermore, when you actually look at his tax voting record, it is pretty disgraceful.
Pledge Matrix
http://www.atr.org/content/pdf/2008/jan/Prez%20Tax%20Matrix _ed8.pdf
McCain's record
http://www.atr.org/content/html/mccainvotingrecord.html |
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Au Contrare, oh bellicose one.
Pathetic Liberal writes:
"All these guys saying...
they're going to sit out the election if McCain wins or if Mitt wins--that's nonsense. I swear, you guys are like a preening Senorita, trying to play hard to get."
What they are saying is, as conservatives, they have listened to YOU and are taking the direction of good Liberal ideas, lessons, values. How soon you seem to forget these past lessons you've preached:
Barbra Streisand, "I will move to another country if George Bush is elected president in November, 2000".
Alec Baldwin, "I swear, I'll take my family and move out of the U.S. if Bush is elected persident".
Really, do I need to continue with the myriad examples of our Liberal teachers? those who instruct us mindless cons to "bail out", if things are not going as we would like---or expect?
I know you prefer me not to.
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We have run out of time on the illegal alien inundation. We either stop it now or we lose our country. McCain won't do it. He thinks it's impossible to enforce our laws. I want someone who doesn't.
The GOP cedes their best issues by running McCain. He agrees with Hillary on Gore-Bull warming, gays, guns, and amnesty. I want someone who doesn't.
America is worth saving. Vote conservative.
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moderates support McCain . . . i think that really sums up the differences. anybody have any Reagan era polls when everyone said he was unelectable? |
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Briggsy, it is staggering to me that you would defend this blatant attempt to subvert First Amendment free speech rights. How can anyone justify the prevention of debating the merits of the position of someone who is up for election during the very time that everyone is focused on candidates and issues. McCain-Feingold to me is much worse that all the other bills that McCain sponsored which erode conservative principles simply because it is such a blatant attack on fundamental rights that can only lead to the protection of incumbents to the detriment of informed political discourse.
BTW, comparing it to the campaign free zones around polling places is wholly inaccurate. These zones are to create a neutral area in the immediate vicinity of the polling place so that campaigns cannot intimidate voters going to the polls. That intimidation is impossible for speech conducted over the airways or in print. |
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Byron York on Romney and Iraq: I have to say that, looking at what Romney said last April, I think McCain has a point. Here is the exchange in question, from ABC's "Good Morning America" on April 3, 2007:
...I think it's fair to conclude that Romney was saying he was in favor of Bush and Maliki setting a secret timetable for a U.S. troop withdrawal. (By the way, I didn't think that was a bad idea, on the grounds that the Iraqis needed to be pushed hard before they would get anything done.) Certainly people who were listening took it that way; at the time of Romney's statement, there was a fair amount of reaction, much of it from the left, to the effect that Romney was coming around to the idea of a timetable. His pledge to veto a congressionally-imposed timetable seemed based on the idea that such a timetable would necessarily involve a publicly-known deadline, although there are clearly separation-of-powers objections one could make, too.
In addition, I think it's indisputable that, at the time, McCain's Republican rivals supported the surge but were also happy that it was McCain who was all the way out on the limb. Last February, someone in the Romney camp told me that yes, Romney supported the surge, but that "McCain owns the surge." The implication was that if things didn't go well, McCain would be the one to suffer; the other guys would be OK precisely because they didn't put it all on the line for the surge. So when I look at Romney's comments on "Good Morning America," I see a lot of caution and a bit of behind-covering, as well.
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Now correct me if I'm wrong, but you were a Fred supporter before he dropped out? Fred refused to sign that "No New Tax" pledge as well; where was your criticism then? And in terms of taxes, McCain was instituting tax breaks and reforms with the Reagan administration when Romney wanted nothing to do with the Republicans and conservatives. This is an attack Romney uses, and he likes to skew the facts the same way. |
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You see, conservatives cannot leave the country---we are not as wealthy as Liberals---where we have endless sums of cash to breeze in and out of countries at will. These ideas, as you well know, are not inexpensive to execute.
Conservatives, with all due respect, have translated (according to their lesser bank account balances) these BIG LIBERAL ideas with what they can do. We simply move from one room of our hovels, to another room. Symbolic is our move. Not nearly as luxurious, decadent, free-wheeling as the Liberal dogma.
Please, we are trying. |
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There are two types of mindsets when a Republican says "I will never vote for McCain for president"
First, those who hate his politics, or his temperament, or his traitor-to-the-cause personality.
Then there are those who believe that refusing to vote for McCain should he gain the nomination, would be doing so for strategic reasons to stop the leftward tilt of the party. Several have mentioned, on this and other McCain oriented threads, that it is better to have a liberal with a (D) after their name running the country than a lib with an (R) after their name running the country. IOW, it is better for the Dems to get blamed for governmental malpractice than the Republicans.
I am in this latter group.
Carter winning gave us Reagan. Ford winning would have never resulted in a Reagan presidency. It probably would have resulted in a Dole presidency (you will recall that Dole was Ford's running mate in '76). Following Dole we MIGHT have gotten Kemp as president (maybe) but more likely, it would have given us someone even more center/left than Dole (say, Arlen Specter).
It is time to recognize that a realignment must come less we end up with a permanent RINO party in the GOP. This will cause a split in the party and the GOP of Reagan will be gone forever.
My hope is still for a brokered convention in which Thompson and Watts are nominated. Hey, one can have dreams! |
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You have a good memory. I did indeed vote for Fred. Why? Because I believed him to be the most conservative candidate. True, Fred did not sign the pledge but Fred also did not vote AGAINST the Bush tax cuts. Fred's voting record is indicative of someone who believes in tax cuts, McCain's record is indicative of someone who is not. Pure and simple.
Romney cut taxes while he was the governor of Mass. This also is an action I can use to base my belief that he will continue to support lower taxes when he becomes President.
I supported Fred because he was the most conservative candidate. Now I support Romney because he is the most conservative candidate. |
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McCain voted no on 6 tax cuts including the two big votes - final passage of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts.
McCain voted yes on 3 tax cuts including 2 which received near unanimous support in the Senate and were relatively non controversial.
McCain was not present for an additional 3 tax votes, including 2 on the very important American Jobs Creation Act of 2004.
McCain does not support permanent repeal of the estate tax, a major goal of the taxpayer movement.
McCain has told reporters "off the record" that he would raise taxes if elected President
Again bigkam, I base my decisions on people's actions. The above is a summary of McCain's actions. McCain can speak all the words he wants, but he cant hide from his record.
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His response re: timetables was to the following question:
"Do you believe that there should be a timetable in withdrawing the troops?"
Now, frankly that should be a "yes" or "no" question. Unsurprisingly, for Mitt, it wasn't. He supported timetables, but "secret" ones, giving him the room to pivot if the surge didn't work for him politically.
And when things looked dark about mid-way through the process he was downgrading it's possible success to a "possiblity."
As he said, at one point, he anticipated the Democrat and Republican responses coming together--e.g., the first a little more reasonable and the second moving away from a long-term presence.
McCain's secondary response was a bit over the top, but his point about Mitt's equivocating is dead-on. Kind of like catastrophic insurance.
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My 12:46 PM post illustrates EXACTLY what the thought process is of those cons who feel disenfranchised, ignored, and ill represented in a country they love.
Those who claim they are not going to prticipate are simply following the lead of their smarter counter parts, the Democrats, Victicrats, Leftists, Pathetic Liberals.
You must learn to listen to the Liberals. They know what is best. And, maintain a particularly acute attention to one known as, "Patritic Liberal". He is their omniscient one. He is omnipotent in all things espoused from the Left.
Now go, and be healthy and well. And give thanks that you too have teachers who are as giving, as clear thinking, as consistent (cough, choke) in their ways as PL+LP+iLP+LiP+anythingelsehedesirestobeatthemoment. |
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Actually, you're right. The guys saying that are generally Mitt supporters. McCain Republicans are much more willing to swing with the program.
What scares me as a Democrat about McCain--although for reasons stated elsewhere, I'd prefer him to Romney--is that he can draw independents (i.e. the politically non-engaged) in a way that Mitt never could. And for the life of me, I don't understand the vitriol directed towards him by many Reeps. His may not be the Boomer-style conservatism of Bush and Limbaugh, but it sure seems to me that the GOP would do well to touch up that old hog. American needs a conservatism that is both older and fresher. That same old song that Romney is offering ain't gonna get the job done this year--especially when you consider that Romney got there via flop-floppery and nuance. |
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made to get accurate numbers and not public "spin".
McCain KNOWS he is about to lose FL badly and this is why he is playing scared. |
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For the record, and for the zillionth time, I was LP until my son--as kids do--inadvertently erased our email, which contained my password data. I emailed Townhall/HughHewitt but never heard back. Eager to continue to shower this site with my sparkling gems of insight, I re-registered as PL, this time changing the password to something I'll remember.
In light of the facts, which I've told you before, this business of acting like I'm some kind of ever-changing chameleon is pretty low rent. While it fits in well with the stupid narrative you are seeking to weave, it also speaks to your character--false witness and misrepresentation being rather mediocre qualities. |
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We have found our theme for November, 2008.
It has been thusly spoken by the "Wise One",
Patriotic Liberal".
Alas, the sage has spoken, we now have direction, moving forward, as a movement, as we all move along, no, not to be confused with moveon.org types of movements of the bowel variety. This is real "motion movement". We know of what we shall pursue this great election year:
Enter, the era of:
"Older............and.................Fresher".
No, this is not some stealth laundry detergent, breaking from the traditional, where new is fresh, and old is stale. This is revolutionary, albeit counterintuitive. It's a bit like,
"They have the front door covered, let's enter the back door." Yes, this is substantive, very meaty indeed.
"OLDER and FRESHER"
We, as conservatives will now embrace this as ours. We are ONE with, "Older and Fresher".
We are so grateful, oh wise one. |
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as spoken in the 1:16 PM post by the eternally, "Wise One".
"Older and Fresher" |
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If you don't like that, numbskull, try reading Matt 13:52, where the Savior says: "(E)very scribe who becomes a disciple of the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out from his storeroom things both new and old."
In our country, this adolescent land that we love, sometimes ancient truths are new and fresh.
It is typical of you, though, to seize on a phrase. You reveal your second-ratedness with every passing day.. |
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Romney-30
McCain -30
The latest Zogby poll has Romney winning Conservatives 34-28.
Thats not enough.
RomBots you need a bigger margin then that.
Romney will not win one Southern primary.
But he's the one who holds and carries true Reagan mantle?
BOOMSHAK -
Govenor Crist would have never jumped on the MAC TRAIN if the internal were bad. What would he have to gain?
Come on BOOMSHAK get on the train...we need someone to yell
CHHOOOOOOO CHOOOOOOOO!!!
Go John McCain!!!!!!!!!!!
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still carry new york and california. because florida jumped the primary date, its delegate count was halved. which means is johnny mac wins cali and ny, its over. but i am sure hugh will spin that as just more evidence that mccain isn't a real republican. hey someone riddle me this. how can whatever-willard win a primary, and given that how will conservative principles be advanced? i mean there aren't enough legit candidates in the congress to take control when willard looses. |
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NJ,PA,IL,MN,AZ & CT
Most of these states are winner take all.
But it's not going to get that far.
McCain will win FL and the RomBots will know there man does not have a big enough wallet to play in the snadbox for much longer.
Romney for Secetary of Commerce.
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me of hugh and romney supporters. If you ever watched a drunk look for missing keys, what do you notice? You'll notice they only look where there is light. Why? Because thats all they can see. You Romney supporters are basically the same. All you know is what you see from your narrow understanding viewpoint. You don't see the bigger picture, which is that Willard will got hammered in the general. I know, this is news for you, but it's true. Open your eyes to the fact that only thing worse (to a real conservative) than a McCain presidency will be a hillary presidency in which the dems control both houses. |
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If you don't like that, numbskull, try reading Matt 13:52, where the Savior says: "(E)very scribe who becomes a disciple of the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out from his storeroom things both new and old."
In our country, this adolescent land that we love, sometimes ancient truths are new and fresh.
I eagerly await your reply.. |
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Yes,L/P the "sage" has once again told us the truth from the scriptures! I guess since calling me a "souless ape" last week, he dusted it off.
Since he was so kind to quote a scripture to us, he might want to refer to the previous verses as well."The kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet cast into the sea and gathering fish of every kind; and when it was filled they drew it up on the beach and they sat down and gathered the good fish into containers,but the bad they threw away. So it will be at the end of the age,the angels shall come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,and will cast them in to furnace of fire there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Have your understood all these things?' They said to Him, "Yes" Quoting the Bible out of context for the purpose of maligning it is a very dangerous practice. |
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In the state of MASS.
McCain leads in every other state poll which votes Feb 5th.
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Nothing out of context in my extraction. I'll take my chances on that terrible day when the wicked are differentiated from the righteous. |
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I certainly had a lot of respect for Fred Thompson, probably always will. I remember when Fred was asked at one of the debates about signing the "No Tax Pledge", and I loved his answer. He said that he's "not interested in signing pledges", very bluntly anf forcefully, as Fred can do. My belief is that the only politicians that sign those things are looking to pander for votes, and therefore lost a little respect for Gov. Huckabee when he signed it--Romney didn't have any to lose from me, incidentally. I have looked over McCain's tax record, and will attest that the blight is the Bush tax cuts. But for the most part, his record and those who vouch for that record, have me convinced that he will pursue lower taxes and spending in Washington, rather than continue the Bush Tradition of "spending like a liberal". However, Romney's record of increasing fees in Mass. and his low job approval rating when he left office should be red flags of equal measure for those who support him. |
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Obama vs Romney, what a debate. Mitt can explain why his church would not have let a young Obama into services.
Romney wil get 1% African - American vote.
Republicans usually get around 8% in a national election.
Single women do not like Romney, ( bad for America, but single woman have increased dramatically as a voting block ).
Obama will easily take %60+ single women.
McCain may lose, but he won't damage the party the way Romney will.
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Meanwhile, on the economic front, the Boston Globe offers up this piece on the realities of the turnaround efforts of Mitt Romney’s multi-billion-dollar firm Bain Capital, which unsurprisingly focused on profits and efficiency, not jobs. The story includes this John Edwards-esque comment from a Romney spokesman: “Governor Romney is not critical of companies that have to reduce their workforce in order to remain competitive. He is critical of Washington politicians who throw up their hands in despair and say there’s nothing we can do about it . . . Governor Romney can’t promise that he will bring back lost jobs, but he can guarantee that he will fight for every job.” Because “fighting” is what really matters, I suppose
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McRobots
I am sick of listening to the swill put out by the McRobots. Idiots! This guys biography has gone down hill since he left Vietnam. Give him kudos for that decade..fine, but ignore his biography since then...foolish. He's battled aginst the first amendment and second amendment. He only took up campaign finance reform to counter is own bloody hands in the Keating Five scandal. He knows little about economics and his economics are more communist than capitalist. He has opposed tax cuts time and time again. He has called American troops torturers. He has stood against democracy in the Senate and refused an up or down vote on judges. He has put forth, or been part, of more Democrat bills than Republican. This guy is not a conservative, and not a great American. To think so is to be blind and stupid. If you think this guy tells the truth, then you have been drinking the Kool-aid. His talk is about a straight as the jerrymandered disticts that make up our democracy. No to McCrack, no to McShamnesty, no to McStraight-talk.
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Rich Lowry (a Mitt fan) on Mitt last year:
But [for Mitt Romney] to speak for 50 minutes or so and not to talk about the Iraq war before a conservative audience at a crucial moment in that war is bizarre and just wrong and almost offensive in my view. This doesn't seem like an oversight. He went out of his way to check off every conservative box—except the one that is politically risky at the moment.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTU0NzEyZjIzMTI5Yz ZiYjgxMjY3MTM4YTIzMjY4NTA=
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not McCain. Romney 33, McCain 32.
"Mitt Romney leads John McCain among men 33% to 31%. Among women, it is McCain 33%, Romney 32%, Huckabee 14%, and Giuliani 12%. McCain and Romney are tied at 33% each among in-person voters. Among early voters it is Romney 32%, McCain 31%, Giuliani 16%, and Huckabee 13%."
http://americanresearchgroup.com/
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.."Washington politicians" is a joke. Is there anyone, outside of the Reep base, I mean, who would not recognize it for the flimflam it is? I guess when you reside in the Republican echo chamber long enough, you start thinking that voters are idiots. |
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On some things PL+LP
Did I bring up religion? In my exchange with PL+LP+iLP+Pil? Best I can tell, I never did. Pathetic Liberal now invokes his version of scripture to 'splain his previous blather.
He said, "Older and Fresher"----and because I am a lesser being, swimming upstream to his, Liberal-Speak----triangulating from Jupiter and Aquarious' setting sun, I am SUPPOSED to HEAR, Matthew 13:52 "Old and New". WOW-----either I am incredibly incapable of reading between Liberal lines (which is entirely possible---not probable)----or even he redefines the rules of Liberal-Speak.
He called you names? Just remember that when he derides you, it is out of love. He called me a "numbskull" just moments ago. He's called me many things. So be it. HOWEVER, he commiserated with LaboriousLawyer just last week and chastised the entire conservative movement for my use of, "Her Royal Thighness".
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The Obama results are so overblown and overanalyzed. SC is a unique place, my Dad is a native .The SC Dem party is now mostly black ( more that 55%) and add in Black independent voters and you get these results . The two candidates split the non black vote.
The white population is now mostly Repub or independent.
I would think a strong black candidate would win BIG in a true southern state with a large black Dem vote block ! There are no large unions to funnel votes to the Clintons like in the North , midwest,and the left coast. Plus there is no large latin voting block that Univision can sway to the Clinton's.
As for FL , Crist and Martinez are not real popular with the FL Repub base.
Crist has screwed up the property insurance and property tax relieve
proposals and everyone is mad at him.
Martinez is a amnesty lover and probably won't win the next primary.
FL will probably swing to Romney but who knows the polls have proven to be wrong or modified to suit the media 's latest agenda.It could be Rudy who has a large absentee voting system in place.
But can I ask why DU trolls spitting out the old tired DU/KOSKIDS evil Cheney
and Shrub nonsense don't get there access pulled ? Do these trolls ever get any new talking points to spit out?
Hey Trolls , a news flash here ,mean mouth Molly Irvins has been dead for awhile and the Shrub line died with her. |
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My tentative first 2 choices are out, Hunter Thompson, So I open up the floor to all the remaining candidates, if they or you as a spokesman/woman can answer me these questions thee;
1. McCain; I do not believe Mr. McCain on his claim he is for shutting down the border. I think he is just outright lying. He has been in congress for years and has failed to ever support anything like this. He says he has heard the people, I just think he is lying. He will get the presidency and immediately pass an amnesty and the borders will remain wide open.
Convince me otherwise !
2. Mitt Romney; I just think Mitt panders to every question, in every state. I do not think his bailout plan in Michigan was conservative, and I also do not believe that he is truly going to be tough on Illegal immigration
What can you say to change my mind
3. Huckabee; I do not believe Huckabee on the border issue either. I am not sure sitting down and talking with our enemies makes any difference. I think we are not arrogant enough with our Foreign policy. I am tired of placating Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Pakistan without real progress on their part.
Convince me Huckabee has it right
4. Ron Paul; I agree with a great deal of Dr. Paul's thought but just up and pulling our troops out of Iraq would be a Vietnam like disaster. I am an isolationist but I think it has to be well planned and gradual. Paul seems to radical on this issue.
Convince me otherwise Paulites.
dirL
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Here is Romney’s actual conservative record:
---In the four balanced budgets he signed into law, Governor Romney used the line-item veto or program reduction power to cut spending by nearly $1 Billion. Over the course of four budgets, Governor Romney made over 300 line-item reductions, 350 line-item eliminations and struck language 150 times.
--- When Gov Romney took office in Massachusetts, he inherited a $2 billion deficit. While in office, he turned the $2 billion into a surplus----WITHOUT raising taxes.
---Gov Romney solved the health care crisis in Massachusetts----and his plans are still used today. He did this by using the free market and competition---and without raising taxes.
--- Gov. Romney was instrumental in passing a bill abolishing a retroactive capital gains tax in the state that would have forced nearly 50,000 taxpayers to pay an additional $200 million in state taxes and fees
--- 4 years ago --- before the illegals marched in our streets --- Romney opposed a bill that would have allowed illegal aliens to get driver’s licenses. “Those who are here illegally should not receive tacit support from our government that gives an indication of legitimacy,” the governor said. (Scott S. Greenberger, “Romney Stand Dims Chances Of License For Undocumented,” The Boston Globe, 10/28/03)
--- Romney vetoed a bill in 2004 that would have permitted illegal aliens to pay the same in-state tuition rate paid by citizens at public colleges and universities in Massachusetts.
--- Romney vetoed the bill providing state funding for human embryonic stem cell research
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--- Romney vetoed a bill that provided for the “morning after pill” without a prescription because it is an abortifacient and would have been available to minors without parental notification and consent
--- He vetoed legislation which would have redefined Massachusetts longstanding definition of the beginning of human life from fertilization to implantation
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--- Governor Romney strongly supported a successful ballot initiative that replaced the state’s bilingual program with English immersion. (Romney Vows to Protect English Immersion Law, May 1, 2003)
--- Governor Romney demonstrated his commitment to school-choice by vetoing a bill that would have canceled funding for Massachusetts’ charter-school program. (Romney to Veto Charter School Moratorium, June 23, 2004)
--- He supported parental notification laws and opposed efforts to weaken parental involvement
--- He fought to promote abstinence education in public school classrooms with a program offered by faith-based Boston group Healthy Futures to middle school students.1
Governor Romney filed and signed into law the most significant expansion of military benefits in recent years. The new law reduced to zero the cost members of the Massachusetts National Guard must pay to attend public colleges and universities, increased twenty-fold the death benefit paid to families of members killed in the line of duty, created a new annuity benefit for Gold Star spouses and boosted the amount paid to Gold Star parents. (Romney Signs Legislation Expanding Military Benefits, November 11, 2005)
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No double-standards here, chump. You guys like your liberals toothless, but I have fangs. You like to hurl insults, and then yelp like wounded dogs when a few are tossed back. I have little doubt that if one summarized the insults I have given and those I have received, from you alone, forget everyone else, I still have a few cheap shots to deliver to call the ledger even.
Moreover, I have the feeling the "soulless ape" remark that Ms. Seehawk invokes (are you sure I did not say "soulless age?"--"soulless ape" does not sound like one of my standard insults) was directed to conservatives generally, and not anyone in particular. On the other hand, I'm subject to personal insults all the time. Not that I mind--only that the boo-hooing about my use of invective is pretty darn hollow.
And as for using Scriptures, I was just inviting you to take up your ridicule of the notion "older and fresher" with sources far more authoritative than I. |
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first, a portion of republican primary voters do not consider themselves conservatives(look at the national election survey). so what does this mean? well, only one-third of americans see themselves as republicans. about 2/3s of those see themselves as conservatives (especially since, ole' jorge did such a good job of enacting conservative values in washington). so rasmussen poll numbers only show willard has a lead in a small sector of the electorate. one too small to win a national general election. real meaning of the numbers? romney is sure disaster for the party as a whole. not for the fat-cat addict, of hugh-who, but for the party as a whole. if willard looses, these blowhards will be able to say: "you didn't listen to me (whoever it happens to be at that hour), and see what happened!!!! for the party, willard is a disaster. for the establishment, he can be spun as a victory for their position whatever happens. |
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Your arrogance is only superceded by the blindness you suffer from.
Invoking religion to me in attempt to explain one of your earlier posts----one which was exclusively a political post, well, it smacks of a kind of evangelical-politics which your side sneers at, chuckles about, bristles over when referring to conservatives who might attempt same.
Just remember, "OLDER and FRESHER" (NOT, old and new).
That is what you said.
That is what you intended to say.
And now, as we gather together to embrace it, it is the charge of conservatives to pick up this torch of your wisdom, and make something good come of it.
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You write:
"I have little doubt that if one summarized the insults I have given and those I have received, from you alone, forget everyone else, I still have a few cheap shots to deliver to call the ledger even."
I always speculated that you are, perhaps, a "counter". I have a couple of relatives who are "counters". With such individuals one needs always be cautious that "thank you" cards, reciprocal visits, and, gift "values" are in order. Otherwise, the consequential wrath, well, it's unspeakable.
Anyway, now that I know that you are one of these "counters", I'll behave accordingly.
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Quote from today's article:
"Romney leads 42% to 22% among conservative voters while McCain leads 43% to 25% among moderates."
That pretty much says it all. McCain is NOT a conservative, and people know it! The gig is up McCainiacs! |
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The place is packed!
Martinez -Lieberman are warming up the crowd.
Looking at the crowd I would say 70% of the people there are 55 years old and older.
McCain's message today is 1. He's the one that can work to get things done.
2.Romney's economic record in MASS is not very strong.
3. Romney = withdraw - surrender.
What's Romney's message today?
McCain not being fair.
OOOHHHHHH - Romney is ready to be Commander-in-Chief - he can take the pressure.
BBBBBAHWAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
GO JOHN McCAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If you folks who constantly attack HH think you will have any effect on his next post or his position -- much less influence any of us who believe in Mitt Romney's candidacy -- you're chomping your gums and pounding that keyboard for your own edification!
Jus' sayin' ..... you're talking to the hand that carries the daily deposit to the bank. IYKWIM.
Hilarious. Keep it up. ROFL
Better still -- why not alternate posting over at the Capt's Quarters. He's just endorsed Mitt. I'm sure he'd loveeeee to have the click-thru's!!!!
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Anyone that's ever seen the Wolf Blitzer interview with Liz Cheney knows how great of an American this woman is! Say what you want about Dick, but there's no denying that Liz Cheney is a great patriot and true conservative!
Eh Charlie Crist?.....He's another one of those open borders RINOs like Mel Martinez. You have to wonder what kind of advice Martiez & Juan Hernandez are giving McCain on the border? |
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somewhat questionable selection process. Even if it was true, which is not certain, it still leads to an important question. That question is if a conservative republican nominee does not win the white house for the party does any one really care? |
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I find myself in much the same quandry. Mitt decided last Jan. which side of this past years amnesty fight he should be on, so he has the edge on Huck who just heard the political winds that have been howling since June. Rudy just wants to ID everyone. The same as McCain/Kennedy amnesty/banana.
Romney may have to be good enough this time around. He would require watching to be sure he follows through. We may only have this election to stop the illegal inundation. McCain, Clinton, or Obama will try again on amnesty. One more and we're done. 1 in 8 residents of the U.S. is foreign born. That is higher than ever. This is not like previous immigration when immigrants became Americans. 1 in 8 households speak Spanish. The birthrates of illegal aliens are astounding. We are running out of time to save our country.
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McCain--Martinez and Crist
Romney--Liz Cheney
Wow, this is tough to see who got the better of this one. But since Dan in SC says she's a great American, maybe I'll just call it a tossup and move on (just kiddin', Dan). |
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Liz Cheney going to work on the ROmney campaign sends a message to Bush/Cheney fans (the few left) that this is their guy...
As for the Kennedy endorsement of Romney-look for Ted to play the "hatchet man" role against Bill Clinton...much as Bill has played this for Hillary... |
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"Romney will not win one Southern primary."
And McCain will?
If McCain wins his own state of AZ I'll be surprised.
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You obviously have not been paying attention. Teddy Kennedy was very close to endorsing his amnesty buddy John McCain - You know, the guy that he co-sponsored the amnesty legislation with? Tim Russert said as much on MTP.
I dont recall Romney co-sponsoring legislation with Teddy, or Russ Feingold, or Joe Liebermann, or John Edwards like a certain Senator from AZ has done. |
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OLDER and FRESHER......pass it along.
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Rest assured, I'm not a "counter." I'm a "forgive and forget" kind of guy. I just had the feeling--not the data--that, for all your finger-pointing about my insults, some fingers were pointing right back at you. That's all.
If you want a "counter," call your friend OHM. That guy dredges up old quotes--complete with thread and time--like nobody's business. While I admire his lawyerly skills, it sure ain't my style. Life is too short..
Btw, your yelping about a distinction between "old and new" vs. "old and fresh" is pretty stale. Give up on that already. You are supposedly a seeker of clarity, not obfuscation. Bottom line is that conservatism needs a new approach, and being "conservatism," the best way to "refresh" itself is through revisiting the wisdom of the ages. Whatever the perverse mutations of Boomer-style conservatism, the Wisdom of the Ages it ain't.. |
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.."your friend, OHM"? I'm sorry. I meant "our" friend. |
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Shortly after CRIST endorsed McCain, Intrade showed him 30 points ahead of Romney.
Since then, Romney has now returned to a 20 point lead (50 point positive swing for Romney!). So much for Crist.
WHY CRIST ENDORSEMENT IS SCANDALOUS:
Of all the Republican Nominees, McCain is the ONLY one to come out against the CATOSTROPHIC INSURANCE legislation, something VERY important to Floridians in Hurricane Alley.
By coming out in favor of McCain, Crist puts himself at odds with the entire Floridian Electorate.
This supports my theory that not only will Crist's endorsement NOT help McCain, it will hurt Crist. In other words, Crist just bought a ticket on the Titanic. |
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That's the question, isn't it?
Historically, moderates have not been as motivated to vote in Primaries as true Conservatives are.
This time in FL, however, Conservatives are ON A MISSION - STOP MCCAIN! What is motivating moderates? Not much.
I expect Conservatives to tru out heavily and moderates not so much. |
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what part of florida do you call home? none? your post is a clear example of projection. really, I live here in florida, I am a resident of the big bend and leon county. so i know the sunshine state. Christ is hugely popular and his support of mccain will have legs with voters from leon to escambia counties. the insurance issue is popular among some, but not all. i mean, if you aren't wealthy enough to have a beachfront condo in Panama City, why do you want to subsidize a scheme to reubuild them, along with homes in the firelands of cali? not too many do. |
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the issue isn't moderates vs. conservatives when considering turnout. its party identification that matters. strong party identifiers are not the same as conservatives. it really does not work like you say. i know, i know, it sounds like another hugh-like spin of mccain's position. but it's really backed-up by 50 years of public opinion scholarship. |
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Makes a catchy bumper sticker:
almanojodo writes:
A vote for McCain sends America down the drain. |
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Don't forget, Boomshak --
Crist is also pro-amnesty (joining wimpy Graham, Juan Hernandez -- Mac's advisor who once told his constituents to "think Mexico first!" and glad-hand Martinez) to form a fine get-out-the-amnesty-vote coalition for Mac.
I can't understand Crist's stand on catastrophic insurance, however. Unless, of course, he's (also) a democrat in disguise. |
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I've been doing some computer programming for work all day and have had FoxNews on in the background.
I noticed an AMAZING thing:
All day long, FoxNews has had one McCain operative after another one praising McCain and disparaging Romney.
I have heard 20 times how HUGE and AMAZING and INCREDIBLE the Crist endorsement of McCain is.
Things I have NOT heard or seen:
1. I have not seen a SINGLE Romney representative on Fox.
2. I have not heard a single mnetion of the new Rasmussen poll.
3. I have only seen one very short clip of Romney speaking compared to 10 or 15 of McCain.
It is clear, FoxNews KNOWS McCain is in deep trouble in FL and is doing their part with ALL DAY FREE ADVERTISING for McCain. |
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Name one single endorsement so far this election season that has made ANY DIFFERENCE at all?
See.
That being said, Jeb Bush has just come out saying "although he respects Crist's endorsement if Mccain, he DOES NOT support it!"
Let's call that an "anti-endorsement". |
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Patriotic Liberal wrote,
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"If you want a "counter," call your friend OHM. That guy dredges up old quotes--complete with thread and time--like nobody's business. While I admire his lawyerly skills, it sure ain't my style."
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I don't 'count' insults---I merely enter them into evidence.
And I do think it is 'evidence' which scares you---and by your own admission, is not your style---, since the left-wing strategy largely involves demagoguery and re-writing history.
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So is your giving to charity rate what VP Cheney's is?
We are stealing oil from Iraq when their government is funding their country with it?Explain how that works exactly. |
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Jeb's anti-endoresement? Maybe, but Christ is far more popular than the smarter-bush. Jeb did a decent job as gov, but not great. His anti-endorement would have had legs if he wasn't so coy. one overall, or one in each state so far?
in new hampshire, joe liberman
in iowa, the lehayes endorsed huck
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Believe me, brother, there's nothing about you that scares me. Like I said, I admire your methodical approach to points you want to prove, but I am not as impressed by your instincts for truth and insight. |
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Wonder why?
Afraid someone might ask more indepth questions or highlight his own flip-floppery on benchmarks and timelines -- not to mention his earlier statement that he'd pass the amnesty bill if it came across his desk?????
My guess is that he had trouble memorizing his own talking points and (ahem) clarifications.
Maybe napping? He's known for long and frequent naps .... Remember the photo of him sleeping in the State of the Union address last year? Maybe this is why he's skipping it this year.
Yawn.
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I rather enjoy and admire the style of our friend, One Hot Minute. Indeed, your likening this characteristic to a, "counter" could not be further from truth.
A "counter", exhibits behavior such as you did when you claimed you still had some "credits", if you will, in name-calling. You literally suggested that I had gotten away with calling you names more than the reverse. THAT is CLASSIC, "counter" mentality.
One Hot Minute referencing something you said on an earlier post is represents a vigilent dedication to clarity and truth. You've accused cons of being "fast and loose" with the truth. However----you have no proof---offer no proof. OHM walks-the-walk, and this makes you nervoso. Indeed, OHM is one willing to do the work to keep you and other Liberals from this behavior. For you to criticise him for this--------well, it speaks volumes to your unwillingness to be subjected to scrutiny.
Volumes.
I pay homage to: ONE HOT MINUTE.
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OHM's in 'da house...
Speak of the devil
Dude, you rule.
Ooooooops, before I forget, forever stay,
"Older and Fresher". |
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...were here, the day would be complete.
The scallawag has been AWOL far too long.
And all that supposed "good" he is out doing for mankind is only going to spoil the chattering class. |
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"Blah, blah, blah, sophists! Blah, blah, blah, liars! Blah, blah, blah blah blah."
Same dreck, different thread. McNugget, doing what he does best - intellectual death by keyboard. |
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What a loser (in addition to being a traitor to the GOP). I hope you Floridians remember this next election time; he should go down as hard as his buddy McCain, in the next election.
Instead of remember the Maine; it will be remember the McCain!!! |
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now that Romney is sailing wayyyyy ahead of McCain on Intrade and in all polls!!! |
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PL+LP+PL+LP+PL+LP is,
"not as impressed by your instincts for truth and insight."
WHY? Because his persective of Truth has been so skewed and warped by his unfettered, unfailing, unquestioned support for the Lefty-Liberal value system.
PL+LP never spends a waking moment on reflective exercises---he might just pull a muscle, twist an ankle on doing so, over the immense failures in his own party---his energies are vested in pointing fingers at, you and me, and all that we be.
Seriously, there is no appreciable focus on the crap his party represents. That is the long and short of it. |
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Well even if Mitt can't win Florida (or if he does win) he always has Super Tuesday to fall back on --- it's just 7 days later --- and we all know that's where the real lion's share of the delegates are, don't we?
For instance there is California --- errr, on second thought let's just skip the Golden State where McCain has an almost double-digit polling lead --- instead let's move on to the Garden State of New Jersey --- oops, McCain leads Giuliani there with Mitt dragging in at a very distant third. OK, OK. But Mitt will certainly kick butt in New York . . . oh, just never mind, McCain leads by 5 with Mitt is at very distant 3rd, edging out Mike Huckabee by a mere 2 points.
On second thought, let's just forget this whole discussion and drink some of Hugh's Kool-Aid! Repeat after me: McCain=Bad . . . McCain+Bad . . . ad infinitum. |
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Been out DVEGFM*, as you surmised. It's a Gift. Somehow a priceless and memorable comment I left somewhere around here did't get "on" this a.m. around 11:00 before I left on my mission. It was pretty inoffensive--except to McVainiacs and other Infestors--so, I don't think it was purged. I must restate it as best I can from my Irish Alzheimers memory. (I.A. is where the patient forgets everything but the Resentments.)
*Doing Vast Inexpressable Good For Mankind.* |
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I am looking forward to John McCain being the 44th President of the United States.
if your hopes were realized (and Mitt got the nomination) that would result in either Billary or Obama being in that role. That is scary to me. |
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Patriotic Liberal,
If you say that you are not 'scared' by the way that I bring up evidence of your past quotes in their proper context, then why are you complaining that I do it ?
The reason you're complaining about it is that I very often catch you contradicting yourself by offering proof of what you said in another thread, last week, last month, etc.
And the reason you have devolved into keeping a scorecard of 'insults,' is because you routinely fail to win debates about i-s-s-u-e-s with our friends such as Clarityseeker, NeoConScum, and Seehawk.
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Mitt Romney will overwhelm either that "yes we can" empty suit or Billary in the general.
It is the old and dottering McCain who would lose in a Dole 2.0 mode. |
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McCain opposed tax cuts, now he reluctantly supports them, he supports global warming treaties (& by extension global taxation), he co-authored Campaign Finance Refo | |