Tuesday, February 26, 2008
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Good Bye, Norma Jean
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Posted by:
Mary Katharine Ham at
11:20 PM
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Hillary's fighting the same fight we're gonna be fighting in a general, it looks like, and she's losing using much the same tactics.
She's more substantive than Obama, but it doesn't matter most of the time. She outperformed him in multiple parts of this debate, but he parried with a smart line and the audience was laughing with him, at her.
He came off cool. She came off strident. Same ol' story. If Democrats are listening, they might concede she offered more, but many of them will just see that Obama made them laugh more often. Likeability's a ...witch, as they say.
Good luck next Tuesday, Hill.
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The most fun of this is watching the GOP'ers slowly resign to the fact that Obama is headed for the nomination.
You people knew you could probably beat Clinton. You also know you don't stand a chance with 71-year-old McCain up against Obama. |
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Voters are fed up with the status quo. We don't believe what any of the incumbents of both parties say. Sometimes people just vote for change. You can't expect to defeat a vapid blank slate like Obama with a guy whose career was built on undermining his own party. At some point, voters will realize that the very things the GOP wants its voters to fear about Obama are exactly those things McCain has scored big successes. There is nothing left to fear about Obama that McCain has not already achieved. Our only hope to vote "other" to register our protest. And don't write in any names. It is important for our votes to count. |
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MKH wrote;
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"Hillary's fighting the same fight we're gonna be fighting in a general, it looks like, and she's losing using much the same tactics."
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I disagree.
I think we'll be using different tactics than she has.
I think she's been hamstrung from accusing Obama of being 'too liberal' because she and Obama are too similar on so many issues, and he would be able to reply, "Uh, Senator Clinton, you voted the same as I did on issues X, Y, and Z !"
In addition, she can't risk upsetting the Move On base of the Dhimmicratic party.
Thus, she's been limited to saying she's "more experienced," when indeed that claim could be easily dismissed since her "experience" has mostly been as First Lady of Arkansas, and First Lady of the United States.
On the other hand, McCain has real experience that cannot be laughed off by Obama with a clever frat boy smile.
I think we can make the clock strike twelve on Cinderfella's fairy tale if McCain is disciplined in highlighting that Obama's record is too radical, too liberal, and while Obama IS a young candidate, his LEFT-WING IDEAS ARE AS OLD AS DIRT.
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one hot minute: I think you're right that McCain's argument is stronger, but we do face a stong opponent.
"The Pet Goat": Uhh, brilliant analysis. We've all been saying for ages, not only that Hill was likely beat, but that we'd rather face her than Obama. It's not a secret.
That said, I still don't count her out completely, and if y'all have a knock-down-drag-out over your elitist superdelegates, it serves you right for setting up the party that way because you don't trust the voters and for letting the Clintons run the place for so long. |
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At the top of this page, "I recently discovered a secret "Bank Account" that's paid 27% a year-for the last 13 years and counting."
When something sounds to good to be true....
Obama. |
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This is what happens when the rising generation is taught how to vote by American Idol and Survivor. Ideas mean very little but apprearance and showmanship mean a lot. |
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Some "Republicans" seem so invested in McCain losing, that they'd probably refuse to vote for him just on those grounds. Forget "gang of 14." Forget siding with Bush on immigration. For them, "moderate" America needs to be punished severely, with four or eight years of President Obama, because moderates committed the ultimate sin of liking John McCain more than Mitt Romney.
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"one hot minute: I think you're right that McCain's argument is stronger, but we do face a stong opponent."
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Ahh, but look at what I specifically disagreed with you on---the tactics. You said, "much the same tactics."
We're gonna knock Obama out using different tactics.
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...with OHM.
We have 8 months to show that Obama is nothing but porcelain. Dropped from a height, he will crumble... |
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I'd also like to add to my prior comments that it won't be enough for McCain to simply "brand" Obama as a 'radical' or 'too liberal' for America.
Rather, McCain will need to explicitly paint a picture of what Obama's "hope" and "change" will look like for Americans; i.e., the truth is Obama "hopes" to take more of your paycheck and give it to the government. Obama's "change" means having the federal government involved more in your lives...and in your wallet.
And we can't just "hope" to defeat Islamic Jihad. We must do it with a vision and a strategy. McCain's strategy (the surge) is successful, while Obama said it was doomed to fail.
Obama wasn't "hopeful" that our military could succeed.
McCain can also emphasize that HE is the "bi-partisan" candidate who has reached across the aisle. |
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I finally figured it out thanks to Turner Classics. Obama's a black Elmer Gantry. It's perfect. |
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John McCain continues to point out the surge is working - especially if it continues to work - and McCain wins.
John McCain might only need one simple message - to win this election. I wouldn't count Hillary out yet either. I'm one conservative who thinks she would possibly put up a better challenge to McCain than Obama would.
Also John McCain should get lots of credit for renouncing the comments of people who are disrespectful to Obama. We don't need people without class in the Republican party. McCain showed lots of class by renouncing that nonsense. |
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By the way, I think there are lots of reasons John McCain should be the likely champ of this 08 election.
Of course nothing is 100% sure; but the contrast of John McCain and either of his opponents - especially Barack Obama - over several months. . . McCain should win.
I trust 'the whole' of Americans' perception / judgement enough to predict several months of this contrast would put John McCain in control of the Executive Branch, come January. |
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conservatives have legitimate difficulties with McVain. the GOP "straw" will be your "moderate" Americans, of all political stripes, including moderate Republicans, voting for Obama because they just want CHANGE, and they don't care for a definition beyond something different that they hope will arrest the cancer of Washington. NO ONE sees change in McVain; he's Washington business as usual....that's why he is going to be the Gone out of style Old Party's nominee. |
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As much as I don't want to vote for McCain, I will. Why? Simply because when Obama talks about "change", he means more of the same. The change I want, is Social Security reform; (Privatize it and let me make the decision on how I want to fund my retirement); Tax reform. (a fair tax would expose how much that we actually pay in taxes. If the American people knew how much we pay on taxes, you can bet that spending would soon come into control. We pay hundreds of taxes that are hidden; Income taxes and payroll taxes are taken out of our check, so their "bite" is not noticed; and we pay for the taxes that manufacturers, shippers, and retailers pay on a daily basis.) Change would mean a smaller government; Change would mean a more aggressive approach to immigration; and it would mean a more aggressive approach to fighting terrorism. It would mean energy independence by drilling in ANWAR, and developing new technologies.
I could continue, but I won't; Thing is that those who are thinking about voting for Obama for "Change" will never see any of the above, because the "change" that Obama wants is to end the war against Terrorism, and move us toward a socialist-communist state. |
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lula may writes: Wednesday, February, 27, 2008 4:15 AM
Obama appeal
I finally figured it out thanks to Turner Classics. Obama's a black Elmer Gantry. It's perfect.
The novel ends as the Rev. Gantry prays for the USA to be a "moral nation". |
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