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Tuesday, February 06, 2007
McCain Campaign Staff and Bloggers: The Lovers' Quarrel Conference Call
Posted by: Mary Katharine Ham at 5:55 PM

All right, so some would argue that McCain and the bloggers have never had enough of a relationship to qualify the current disagreements as "lovers' quarrels," but the call and the conversation the campaign staff is starting to have is a bit, "baby, come back. You know I've always loved you."

Not that that's a bad thing at all. Bloggers, as the guys on the call noted, will have an impact on the '08 elections, and McCain, despite past missteps needs to start a conversation anew. And, if McCain does win the nomination, even folks who don't love him will want to support him to the best of their ability over the Democratic nominee, for the most part. So, the campaign guys hosted the first of several on-the-record Blogger Bitch-a-thons today (Boss, am I allowed to say that?), which I think is a wise move, indeed.

We need to have it out and have our feelings validated just a bit.

David All live-blogged the call, here, and while he knocks the Musak while we were on hold, I think it was one of my favorite selections, as these things go. Very lively.

Anyway, I think the calls are the right move for the McCain folks, and we hit on all the fun issues-- McCain-Feingold, alleged hostility toward bloggers from McCain, general annoyance. Some of the answers were good, but I didn't feel like conservative bloggers' real, politely presented, substantive issues with McCain were taken as seriously as they could have been. I mean, we've got some deep-seated issues, here, that have developed over many years for some of us. There were only a few of us on the call, and I wish we could have gone longer.

The conversation we did have was productive and polite, but there was a little bit more of a pitch tone to the responses than I would have liked. Now, I know, of course, that's the point of a campaign staff in the first place. I know they believe in the guy and want to tout his assets, which are numerous, but let's go back to the lovers' quarrel analogy, which may or may not be a faulty one depending on your personal feelings about McCain.

Here's the deal. McCain wants to start a friendlier relationship with us bloggers, right?

Now, when a man goes to his angry wife or ticked off girlfriend and says, "Baby, let's work this out. What's wrong?," what does she do? She yells at him, gets some things off her chest, maybe cries a little about how little he truly cares about her, right? We got that far on the call. I'm not gonna tell you who cried.

But what's the next step? When you're talking to your girlfriend, even if you think she's being crazy and unreasonable (which I, for the record, do not think conservative bloggers are being), you have to act like her feelings are valid in order to get in good again, no? You have to say, "Baby, I know that hurt your feelings and I'm really sorry. I'm gonna try my best not to do that in the future."

What you don't say is, "But, baby, remember that one good thing I did do for you a couple months ago? Remember how we went to dinner that time? That was so sweet of me."

She will then just stare at you, tissue in hand, mascara running down her face. Favor is not won.

It sounds like I'm being super-critical, and I don't mean to be, but I think repairing this fairly rocky relationship --McCain and conservative bloggers, specifically-- requires some honesty, so there you have it. There was a tad too much of a pitch in the responses, but some of it was very good. I can't stress enough that I think the blogger calls are a great move for McCain's folks. And, they'll get better. As couples therapy goes, I think it was a decent first session, and I look forward to the next one.

So, yeah, a little bit more "Baby, I'm sorry I hurt you," would be nice, but we're getting there. Or, maybe I'm just being a girl about it.

There were several good suggestions from bloggers to the McCain camp, I thought. Rob Bluey of The Heritage Foundation suggested that McCain make a showing at a few more conservative events, as Mitt Romney did at the RSC in Baltimore last week:

"It would be very helpful to him…just the perception that he’s taking the time to be with us…that’s part of the perception that you’re trying to change,” Bluey said.

John Weaver and Terry Nelson of the McCain camp stressed that he and others are working every day to reach out to conservatives, and they understand what an important role they play. Nelson:

"You would see a lot of prominent, conservative leaders on the state level who support John McCain...I believe John McCain is the conservative candidate on the vast majority of issues in the Republican Party...It’s our hope that a lot of these opinions you see represented on your blog would change, and that’s part of what this campaign has to be about.”

Weaver Nelson also made the point that McCain has consistently campaigned for Republican candidates during election years, using the popularity with the media some of us conservatives begrudge him, to lift others. Fair point:

“I think that’s one of the great qualities of Sen. McCain... McCain has done a lot to campaign for other Republicans…I first met John McCain in 2000…and he campaigned to elect Republican candidates more than any other candidate..and has continued that ever since then in every other election.”

Paul Mirengoff of PowerLine suggested maybe McCain needs a Sister Soljah moment with the MSM. Many conservatives-- bloggers and blog-readers, particularly-- feel like he's a little too cozy with a media that spurns and mistreats the rest of us. Now, I'm the first to concede that this helps the Republican message in some cases. McCain speaks well on the war, and gets plenty of facetime and fair treatment because he's McCain. This is helpful, but many feel like he's in league with the MSM. Openly taking them to task on an issue would be helpful to him among conservative blog-readers. I wonder what he could point out? Hmmm.

Ed Morrissey's advice on McCain-Feingold really struck me as on the money:

“We’re really gonna need to have a…well thought-out discussion as to why (campaign finance reform) addresses conservative ideals…I don’t buy it and I know my readers don’t...I think we’d all love to change his mind on it, and I don't think we will…but we need to hear a better explanation than we're chasing the money and that's good because the money's the root of all evil. Because it's really not."

The fact is, the McCain abandonment of market principles in favor of government regulation in the area of campaign finance-- in the area of something as important as free political speech-- makes me wonder how strong his free-market principles really are. Would like to hear more.

His campaign staff noted that, in talking to McCain about money in politics, you really get the sense that what he's concerned about is corruption.

Several folks got down on McCain about the "Maverick" label, but Weaver pointed out that his maverickism isn't always a minus for conservatives:

“You can look at how hard he has worked in sometimes a lonely project—reducing spending...He is now a lonely voice in supporting the President, frankly, in dealing with the Iraq issue.”

So, those are my two cents. I look forward to doing it again.



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Sue writes: Tuesday, February, 06, 2007 7:39 PM
Blogs and McCain
Sorry MK...I just can't forgive and forget as easily as most, I guess. I have NEVER had a great feeling for this guy...still don't get anything but annoyance when I see or hear him. For the past thirty+ years, I have lived by my "gut" instinct. If I feel something skiterring down my back, then I back way off..only three times have I not followed that "feeling" and every single time I got burned!! Well, that how McCain makes me feel...and this feeling isn't nice. He may make a good prez, but then again I just don't see it.

Oh, and if they really want to work with bloggers, they'd better do a heck of a lot better with the tech side of their "phone" connection!! I mean, get real.
Virginia Patriot writes: Tuesday, February, 06, 2007 8:09 PM
McCain/Kennedy
Not voting for McCain ever.
Vince P writes: Tuesday, February, 06, 2007 9:11 PM
Sam is rude
Sam: Shame on you for talking like that to a lady.
Still468 writes: Tuesday, February, 06, 2007 9:23 PM
I Will Never Support McCain
McCain has burned way too many bridges with conservatives to EVER get my support. Starting with his attack on the first amendment ala mccain-fiengold. Second he is in george soros's back pocket by proselytizing for more gun control and eviscerating the second amendment. He helped to destroy President Bush's chances at getting some fine judges voted on in the last few congressional sessions, by allowing this idiotic supermajority vote to continue in the senate. The Constitution specifies advise and consent on these nominees. It does not give them the right to deny nominees an up or down vote. If these nominees are so bad they will obviously not be confirmed during a full floor vote. We can add the Keating 5 to this list, so his concern about corruption is laughable. etc, etc, etc. If mccain ends up as the republican nominee next year, it will be the first time I will not vote for a president since 1980.

L. Schafer
Newport, NC
INC writes: Tuesday, February, 06, 2007 10:07 PM
McCain
I read David All's live blogging and looked at Captain Ed's post. I also read the comments.

Senator McCain needs to read those comments. That will give him window into the blogosphere's perception of him.

There are many things he has done I do not like, but I know there will always be differences. The non-negotiable is McCain-Feingold. I consider it a direct curtailment of the 1st Amendment.

He is never going to live this down or explain it away:

"I would rather have a clean government than one where quote First Amendment rights are being respected, that has become corrupt. If I had my choice, I’d rather have the clean government."

This is on You Tube and there are numerous references to it. In fact, you know what I got when I typed in McCain in the Google rectangle on my Firefox browzer? The phrase "clean government" was automatically attached to his name. That tells me a lot of other people remember that statement and have looked for the quote.

Captain Ed had this commentary on that statement, last April 29th:

"The founders would have laughed at McCain's notion that one could trade free political speech for 'clean' government. They knew that the only manner in which to keep the government clean was to enable its citizens to speak out against abuses. Trading free speech for any kind of government only enables the villains of power to accumulate and abuse it all the more.

Senator John McCain has many fine qualities, but an understanding of free speech is not among them. He would trade our primary birthright for a mess of bureaucracy and trust it to operate in our interests while limiting our ability to criticize it. That path leads to autocracy, corruption, and ruin."

I could not agree more.

As for the bloggers, it was interesting that Captain Ed mentioned, "The presidential campaigns seem especially interested in bloggers as a direct conduit to voters." I hope the big name bloggers are ready to ask some tough questions and that the campaign workers are ready to answer them. Otherwise as NoMoreBlatherDotCom, said at CQ, "shouldn't we doubt whether they're truly an alternative to the MSM or just the minor leagues thereof?"

I don't want to see sensationalism, but I want those tough questions asked.
al_miller writes: Tuesday, February, 06, 2007 10:30 PM
McCain Feingold
No no no. There is no way this tyrant should even be elected to dog catcher let alone president. He did McCain Feingold on us and now gives us the finger. He was a Keating 5 stooge and his way out of the mess was to make a hypocritical bigger mess (and he has a nicely financed war chest. Ask him how he got it.

gormless norman writes: Wednesday, February, 07, 2007 12:25 AM
McCain Sounds Off on IBA Radio!
Infidel Bloggers Alliance Radio beat you guys to this scoop. Pastorius, who blogs at http://www.ibloga.blogspot.com and at cuanas.blogspot.com interviewed Senator McCain on January 31.

The Senator expressed a desire to involve the blogosphere in his campaign, since, in his view, computers are the wave of the future. He took tough questions on the McCain/Feingold bill and on the Gang of 14 compromise, and offered interesting and provokative responses. Do not miss his comments on Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton. Listen to the whole thing here, suckas:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/hostpage.aspx?host_id=943

Scroll down and click "play" on the Jan. 31 show, then either listen to the whole thing or, if you're a high-powered mover and or shaker whose time is gold, slide the little bar thingy over to about 49 minutes into the show.

Rockstar!
Denny Shaners writes: Wednesday, February, 07, 2007 12:47 AM
He Never Called Us
Senator McCain's people never called Sonoran Alliance - his biggest homestate critics - which leads us to ask is he really interested in patching things up or letting us unload?

Maybe the straw poll we broke in January caused too much damage to be included on the guest list?

DSW
SonoranAlliance.com
rochf writes: Wednesday, February, 07, 2007 9:20 AM
McCain--never in my lifetime
Now that McCain needs conservatives, he's ready to make up? Fat chance. His support for McCain-Feingold, the Gang of 7, anything he's done with Kennedy, and amnesty render him unacceptable as the Republican candidate. If the RNC and the professional politicians think they can cram him down our throats, they'd better think again.
Serfer writes: Wednesday, February, 07, 2007 11:30 AM
MacAss
I will vote for the Kommiecrats if the GOP nominates this bag of BS. MacAss-finegold, gang of 14, Bolton etc etc.

Even if its Clinton, she will do less damage and be out in 4 for Jeb to step in. Whereas MacAss will screw the USA for 8.

No. No Never!!!...
TheHat writes: Wednesday, February, 07, 2007 12:34 PM
Traitors should be hung not elected
I an a Conserative Conserative Conserative and I will never vote for McCain. He screwed us over for eight years and we aren't going to forget.

So you can do all the stupid "I Love and Forgive My Wife' stories you want. You are wasting your time. McCain is Dead On Arrival. Period.

Last word: If it's McCain and Hillary, I'll vote for Hillary. Some times things have to get really bad before they can get better.

GO Rudy! You are a half-assed Conserative but thats far better than RINO traitor McCain.
Kit writes: Wednesday, February, 07, 2007 2:02 PM
Corruption
What does McCain think about the 527 groups? Certainly they are not free of corruption but they're a direct result of his legislation. Nothing will take money out of politics; McC/F has merely taken the power out of the hands of individuals and put it in the political 527's whose agenda is counter to the real people. McCain is too old, too egocentric, and too averse to criticism. As the ol' saying goes, if the media is for it, I'm agin' it.
The more they, as is their duty, bash Bush, the more I love him. He's got cajones that McCain will never have; the willingness to be hated publicly for principles.
Phil Byler writes: Wednesday, February, 07, 2007 3:13 PM
Don't Dismiss McCain
Don't dismiss John McCain. John McCain is pro-life, and he taken the pledge before the Federalist Society to nominate the same kind of traditionalist judges as George Bush did in John Roberts and Sam Alito. John McCain also is very much a fiscal conservative, but more importantly, he is extremely knowledgeable about military and national security matters. I don't want the nation denied what may be his needed military expertise in the days ahead because of past issues. I think that John McCain would be well advised to diplomatically back off of campaign finace reform due to the problems with it, leaving that law in the hands of the courts, which will progressively be cutting it back. That John McCain played a primary role in the Gang of 14 may turn out not to be so bad: the Senate compromise allowed for John Roberts and Sam Alito to take their seats on the U.S. Supreme Court, the "constitutional option" may have failed given the likes of RINOs Olympia Snowe and Lincoln Chafee, and an untrammelled filibuster power may just come in handy in the next two years for the favor of Republicans. So let's keep in mind that John McCain is the son and grandson of U.S. Navy Admirals; he is a patriot whose personal war story is gripping; he is genuine in his care for our military men and women and for military families. His criticism of past Iraq strategy and call for more boots on the ground has turned out to be correct. John McCain deserves praise for his recent stout efforts to stop the U.S. Senate from adopting resolutions undermining the President's new strategy and new commander in General Petraeus and undermining the troops. For the future struggle aginst the radical Islamists, what John McCain brings to the table may be essential to the nation's future and the issues ahead.

ghh writes: Wednesday, February, 07, 2007 3:52 PM
no,no,no
Well, if McCain gets the nomination, I will be not be one of those conservatives to hold my nose and vote for him. I'll vote for whatever drug-addled free-trader the Libertarians put up, rather than be partly responsible for whatever fascistic curtailments of our liberties McCain would put in place if he had the almost unlimited power of the Federal bureaucracy at his disposal.
Rightwingsparkle writes: Wednesday, February, 07, 2007 4:42 PM
Rightwingsparkle here...
My gosh, I have spent so much time on my blog and other blogs defending McCain he should pay me to write for him!

The most recent defending I did was at Ace's and I wrote this about their assertion that McCain is a media hound:

You guys think that he took the stances he did for media attention? Good Grief. The media gave him attention when he took stances they liked, sure. But that's because they DIDN'T give him attention when he took stances they didn't like.

Take for instance when he endorsed teaching "intelligent design" alongside evolution in public schools, and what about when he had expressed support for a state ban (in Arizona) on gay marriage that denies government benefits to any unmarried couple? McCain has often said that Reagan is his hero. Have you heard the media go bonkers over that? Or how about that he has a 100% negative rating from Planned Parenthood and NARAL?? He has been on our side against embroyonic stem cell research. Did the media point that out??? If he wanted media attention he would have gone the opposite way on all those things, not the least of which would be defending President Bush's Iraq policy.

You people go on and on about McCain/Feingold. Fine. I get it. You didn't like it. But McCain didn't do it for popularity, he did it because he thought it was right. Does that negate all the things he has done right for us?? (listed above!)

You people drive me crazy!




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