or don't.
After spending two decades before the Bessemer pulpit of the wrong Rev. Wright, you claimed repeatedly to your detractors during the election to be a Christian.
Now you avoid church as if you were Madeleine Murray O'Hare.
The U.s. President doesn't have to be a religious practitioner in our constitutional scheme. Since you put on the dog however during your race for the White House, do you think it's time to declare one way or the other now?
Or maybe you just pine for Rev. Wright.
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Doncha get it? He don't need no church, He is
a messiah, he is Church on earth..
All these idiots opining about how much he's like a god, when they don't believe in THE ONE TRUE LIVING GOD is an example of how low they are.
And Obama is, in my understanding of scripture, treading on dangerous, shaky sand when he accepts the glory, laud and honor reserved for
GOD alone, with that cheesy grin of his, and/or nose in the air a la Il Duce. I've done a little bit of research regarding the Biblical
kings who accepted worship.. Pharoah of Exodus, believed he was equal to God..refused to bow down to Him and died along with his army. Herod,
after crowing about an international deal he made, and being worshipped by the assembled Israelites, collapsed and was dead within a week.
Other evil kings met sorry ends also.
I'm not saying nor wishing the same for O, however God can bring him down to ignominy for the rest of his life. I think it will be interesting to see what God does with this person, hopefully he will repent and change his
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and he is as far from being a Messiah as the moon is from planet earth - no farther, a trillion miles farther! He is a liar, an elitist, a treasonous traitor to the US, and a communist-minded, Hitler- worshipping, America-hating Muslim-worshipping Dog. He is the epitomy of a scum sucking vermin.
He is the worst thing to ever happen to the United states, and he will be it's downfall if his ignorant, brainwashed followers don't get their head out of their a-s-s and see the light pretty damn soon. He is the devil in a suit. |
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That's right. The ONLY place anyone ever compares Obama to the "messiah" is here at TH and on other wingnut sites. Projecting is a Rightwing kneejerk, but seriously, folks - can't you at least recognize how much Obama hate goes into your daily diatribes, and how much of what you claim is borne out of your own paranoia? |
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Deranged and dumb, not a good combo. |
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We know he is not God. Get real. President Obama is very much admired abd adored. But that does not mean we believe he is God.
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Oprah first called Obama "The One", Louis Farrakahn called him "The Messiah" and the editor of Newsweek said he is "like God." We are just repeating what we hear and see in his follower's devotion.
Ever seen these?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtGrp5MbzAI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1QiSi0_kTo
Children singing hymns to Obama. If that is not worship, I've got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.
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Oprah calls Obama "The One"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYjyU25bW3Y
Farrakhan calls Obama "The Messiah"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9cRpS5mSq0
Newsweek editor Evan Thomas says Obama is "sort of God"
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I just watched both videos. Those videos are inspiring, hopeful and positive.
I have even called President Obama "The One" = myself. Look, the man is very speacial to millions of people. I think the sooner the republicans respect that, the better things will be for them. |
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You people need a 1 or 2 after your name:
I have even called President Obama "The One" = myself. Look, the man is very speacial to millions of people
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Nobody hates Obama. We hate his ideology. He's a Marxist Socialist. He is also an amateur with the gift of gab. I'm sure alot of people think he's special. Let's face it, he recieved alot of votes simply because he's black.
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John Kerry has excommunicated himself. So has Ted Kennedy and all other
“person’s [whose] formal cooperation [in grave sin] becomes manifest (understood, in the case of a Catholic politician, as his consistently campaigning and voting for permissive abortion and euthanasia laws)”
“In the case of an intrinsically unjust law, such as a law permitting abortion or euthanasia, it is therefore never licit to obey it, or to ‘take part in a propoganda campaign in favour of such a law or vote for it’”
(Pope Benedict XVI, “Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion - General Principles)
“Canon 1398: A person who procures a completed abortion incurs a latae sententiae excommunication.”
"Canon 1329: §2 In the case of a latae sententiae penalty attached to an offence, accomplices, even though not mentioned in the law or precept, incur the same penalty if, without their assistance, the crime would not have been committed, and if the penalty is of such a nature as to be able to affect them; otherwise, they can be punished with ferendae sententiae penalties.”
“Cann 915: Those upon whom the penalty of excommunication or interdict has been imposed or declared, and others who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin, are not to be admitted to holy communion.”
Latae sententiae excommunication is automatic and immediate. It requires no formal church action of any kind and the person may not receive communion.
Complain as these excommunicated Catholics will, they can neither rewrite canon law nor alter the most fundamental tenants of the church. If they truly suffered a conflict of conscience, they would join another denomination or start their own. Their real goal is to sow discord among the faithful by creating scandal.
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As President, Mr. Obama is doing just fine. Check out his web site: barackobama.com.
We know change takes times -- especially after the mess we inherited from GW Bush.
We know it will take longer than 6 months to get the economy back on track.
Sorry, BK, your argument does not cut it.
Marxist Socialist? Wow. I don't think so. I guess you think he was not born in Hawaii as well. |
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Yup he is. Studied under the finest.
I'll wait until you get off your knees first.
OK, Obama was a junior senator from Illinois, who only got elected due to a scandal with his opponent. he is not qualified.
He is driving the economy into bankruptsy. Unemployment is now at 9.5% after he "promised" it wouldn't go above 8%. He has interferred in private business by owning and running GM & numerous banks. He owns the media. He makes this country unsafe by bowing to our enemies and being weak.
He is a rank amateur. You can give me obama.com all you want but then that is laughable.
Nope, you have no argument for "any" successes that he has had. When he has one, I'll be the first to say he was successful. Until then, we be watchin. |
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Andrea (1 or 2, I can't tell which is which),
Your god is admired and adored by lefties everywhere. And enemies abroad just love him because he is weak. Since lefty can't think, and enemies are enemies, both trends will continue.
Back home, he is tanking in the polls. He has a few more weeks to "get socialism done" (my words), then it will start to unravel.
BTW, I am surprised he had this much time to implement socialism. I thought the scamulus bill would bring it all to a halt.
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He's been President for less than 6 months. What are you talking about? You make no sense.
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You people are sickos. His ppopularity is not tanking. He has been in office for less than 6 months. Most Americans realize progress will take longer than that. Are you people out of your mind or just haters? Sometihng is wrong here and I think all you want to do is complain and all you ever will do is complain.
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Thank you for:
- sickos
- haters
- out of your mind
- you have called him "the one" and
- that he is very special to millions of people.
Isn't it time for you to troll along to another discussion?
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I'm the conservative. Maybe we should decide who has to add something to their screen name by age? I'm 52--I'm guessing the liberal Andrea is younger than that. :)
Those videos were creepy, Andrea! Look, Reagan was loved and admired, but no conservatives sang hymns to him or marched instep calling him "Alpha and Omega," which if you don't know is *Christ's* title in the book of Revelation. Nor did any conservatives say that they were finally going to succeed BECAUSE of Reagan. |
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He's been President for less than 6 months. What are you talking about? You make no sense
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You are a straightup liar!
Listen dust your knees off and wakeup. You can't just live on Kool-aid for the rest of your life. I knew the guy was a phony coming in and he has yet to prove me wrong. What EXACTLY has he done thus far, other than run up the debt? |
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they are nuts because they cannot believe they lost to Obama. He's doing well, all around the world. It scares them to be on the losing side. I'd cut them some slack. Their fear is overwhelming to them. I do fear that our president is in danger from the nutcases these sites foster. |
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He IS special to millions of people and I have called him The One just like Oprah has.
Most of the people on this site ARE Obama haters and sickos -- they really think Obama was not born in the USA and he is a muslim and a socialist. |
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Please get off your knees..you are an embarrassment! |
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i thought the word is that he is going to pray at the same church as GW. i'm not sure, but recent Presidents have found their presence disruptive to services. so they generally pray on Sunday at the Camp David chapel or something. that's what Bush did--and after all, his favorite political philosopher was Jesus. |
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Liberal Andrea's nom de blog is a link to her blog, so it's underlined. Perhaps when referring to or addressing her, we should write "_Andrea_".
_Andrea_: "Are you people out of your mind or just haters?"
Both, actually. As you can see, the more extreme right-wingers here live in their own little fantasy world. It's both surreal and infinitely amusing. |
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I didn't want to put myself first, just in case the other Andrea has been here longer or is older than me. :)
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He has given people hope and strength. He is a great role model. He's educated, articulate, handsome and inspiring. He's a great leader. Now those are things that are not legislative.
As for executive orders, legislation and such, you can check out: http://www.whitehoues.gov, because his case load has been tremendous. He is doing so much that even republicans complain.
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"He has given people hope and strength. He is a great role model. He's educated, articulate, handsome and inspiring. He's a great leader."
So, in other words, he deserves the adulation and obeisance. Are you one of the women that fainted at his rallies? |
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As for executive orders, legislation and such, you can check out: http://www.whitehoues.gov, because his case load has been tremendous. He is doing so much that even republicans complain.
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Doing alot of nothing is still nothing. Results?
or doing alot of everything wrong is still wrong.
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These buffoons are all over the map. With Clinton, they blustered about the role model aspect of the Presidency. On those grounds alone, they referred to him as the worst President ever. Now there is a Democratic President who is actually pretty admirable from the standpoint of character and moral courage, and they accuse us of treating him like the Messiah.
it is just jibber-jabber, blurbled out by fools who are unprincipled and lawless by nature. |
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unprincipled and lawless is a bit strong. BeeKay actually is an earnest and skilled advocate for American conservatism.
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He has given people hope and strength. He is a great role model. He's educated, articulate, handsome and inspiring. He's a great leader. Now those are things that are not legislative.
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So's a used car salesman but that's another story. He can talk..I'll give you that. But he can talk pretty but he hasn't said anything worthwhile yet. He was excellent during the campaign but hasn't quite delivered on all the promises that he made...actually he hasn't kept any of them.
Great leader? Uh.....um....NO! |
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BeeKay actually is an earnest and skilled advocate for American conservatism.
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Why thank You Pat! I like you too! |
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we'll have to let them unfold in the fullness of time. I think, BK, you live in the media newscycle, raptly following polls and triumphantly exclaiming over the monthly unemployment figures. but we'll just have to let the media and the pundits and the Reeps buzz around with their noise and agitation. true conservatives should have a little more perspective than that. in time, over time, we shall see. and our argument is--it will resonate with the American people, too--that it would have been worse if the Dems weren't there. You Reeps have a generation of failed leadership--economic, strategic, moral--to live down. |
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Listen to people like Patriotic Liberal not Rush or Hannity.
I never fainted at an Obama rally Andrea.
Look guys, it's been less than six months, give the man a break.
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in time, over time, we shall see. and our argument is--it will resonate with the American people, too--that it would have been worse if the Dems weren't there. You Reeps have a generation of failed leadership--economic, strategic, moral--to live down.
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Bad is bad! Didn't work before and ain't gonna work now.
As far as failed Reb leadership, prior to the Dems taking over Congress, I do beleive that the market was in the 14,000 area and unemployment was at 4.7%.
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Look guys, it's been less than six months, give the man a break.
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I can remember saying the same thing when Bush was in office. Didn't happen. However, I have always maintained that I will not call him names and attack him personally, just his agenda and policies. |
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And the way these folks are acting, it's not wonder they can build their party. Unless they build their party, they won't have the votes to regain the presidency -- it's that simple. |
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Sorry, I messed up my words. I meant to say, no wonder they can not build their party. |
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Funny how so many Democrats want Republicans to give Obama a break? It's only been six months, right? Maybe they were too young to remember the 2000 election . . . and the last 8 years! Regardless, Obama certainly hasn't wasted a single minute with the CHANGE thing . . . and his greatest loss in support? Independents. Get used to it . . .
On topic . . . Obama visited the Pope because he is still campaigning for the Catholic vote. LOL |
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And the way these folks are acting, it's not wonder they can build their party. Unless they build their party, they won't have the votes to regain the presidency -- it's that simple.
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If your Party can't accept discent, what makes it any different than Iran, China or any other country that isn't a Democratic Republic?
The proof is in the results. The opposing Party will either need alot of effort to rebuild or it won't matter because the American people don't like losing their freedoms, jobs or their money. Believe me when I say this, people won't accept it's Bush's fault. The buck stops with Obama...either he can deliver or he can't. So far, it doesn't look good for him. |
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ASYLUM for insane alcoholics, I say the more bo speaks the sicker we get of him. |
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Pope Benedict XVI presents a gift of a mosaic of Saint Peter's Square to US President Barack Obama:
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/88974103
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factor in "...prior to the Dems taking over Congress, I do beleive that the market was in the 14,000 area and unemployment was at 4.7%.'
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Look at the picture. Even the Pope knows this man is special AND the Popes gives Obama several gifts!
Check it out for yourself:
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/88968495
You guys need to see the truth. We are dealing with a special man here. |
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Not special,common practice to exchange gifts, your thinking Obama is way to important. |
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Did you look at the picture?
Describe the picture:
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The pope also gave W gifts. It's common for leaders to exchange gifts when they first meet.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,279792,00.html
You really have Obamolatry syndrome bad, don't you? I will pray for you. No one should give that kind of adulation to a mere man. God alone is to be worshiped. Christ alone gives people hope and strength. I've had enough of your blasphemy. |
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What's wrong with being muslim and how do you know if the Pope admires anyone muslim or not? |
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Did you see the picture -- no smile or holding hands with GW Bush:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,279792,00.html
Also the article said:
ROME — President Bush, deeply unpopular here and met by boisterous protests, sought to impress Pope Benedict XVI and the Italian public on Saturday with his humanitarian record and downplayed differences with the Vatican over Iraq.
In his meeting with Bush, the Vatican said the pope raised "the worrisome situation in Iraq."
They love Obama in Rome!
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Yup, gave him a lesson in Abortion and stem cell then gave him a book to read. |
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It is only in the deranged minds of the loonie right that Obama is "the messiah." I think it comes from constantly reading only the writing of people who agree with you. It's an echo chamber.
As far as declaring a religion, I would be grateful to have a president who decided things based upon facts rather than iron-age superstitions. Faith is nice, but only if it's faith in something that actually exists.... |
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In his meeting with Bush, the Vatican said the pope raised "the worrisome situation in Iraq."
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He should have asked why the Dems gave approval to go to Iraq and kept on funding it. The the Pope could have asked Obama how come you didn't keep your promise to end the war? |
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Well, he did not and chose to find common ground with President Obama.
And President Obama said it will be 16-18 months to before all combat troops are out. We all know you can't just yank troops put just like that. It has to be done right and also in cooperation with the Iraqi government who had already drawn up an agreement for troop reductions prior.
BK, you do not impress me and you are no help to the GOP, I do not see how you could help them build their party. |
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Okay, so you guys have picked a name for me -- Andrea2. |
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Obama is a novelty--the first black American president in a country that once shamefully enslaved blacks. People are naturally curious overseas. Also, I don't deny that W was an unpopular president (I too was unhappy with many things that he did while president), but you are reading way too much into Obama's reception there. Furthermore, popularity does not infer goodness or virtue...just look at the reaction to Michael Jackson.
Sorry for using the word blasphemy, but as a serious Christian I find the liberal reaction to Obama deeply offensive. It has nothing to do with his color, and believe it or not, little to do with his policies. I think it would be just as inappropriate to give that kind of adulation to a conservative president. And no, I am not a Palin supporter either. |
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Here is the Pope STILL smiling and enjoying being around Obama:
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Andrea,
The appeal of Obama is not about him being Black. It's him, the person. Al Sharpton is Black and ran for President -- so color has nothing to do with this.
Obama is not a novelty. This is real and lasting. This is a new leader for a new time. I'm sorry your party is in disarray. But now is when they can learn something and they do not even see that.
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Andrea 2 is hopeless. I'm going to bed. Night all. |
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So you are saying here and now that the Pope does not like muslims? |
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Hopeless in the sense that you can not make into a version of you. |
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And President Obama said it will be 16-18 months to before all combat troops are out.
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Not what he said on the campaign. But then he changes his mind alot. 18 months? Wow, but wait...isn't that the timetable that Bush set up with Iraq? By God it is. Great thinking BO.
Andrea "2" continues: BK, you do not impress me and you are no help to the GOP, I do not see how you could help them build their party.
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Bwahahahahahaha! Andrea "2", when you are all growd up and figure out what's going on, you can come see me. Until you've lived a little longer you will continue to be naive. Impress you? Bwahahahahaha! Not attempting any such thing.
Oh to be young and impressionable! I guess you can't help it. |
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"According to a written statement from the Vatican, the first issues discussed during a 35-minute private meeting this afternoon in the Apostolic Palace were “questions which … constitute a great challenge for the future of every nation and for the true progress of peoples, such as the defense and promotion of human life and the right to abide by one’s conscience.”
The latter phrase was understood as a reference to the current debate in America over protections for health care workers who assert a conscientious objection to participating in abortions or other procedures. During a session with Catholic journalists last week, Obama promised a “robust conscience clause” which would not weaken protections in vigor during the Bush administration"
Looks like Obama going to have to break some more promises or lie! What to do, what to do?
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Ok, BK, whatever you say. Just go on living in your made up fantasies. |
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Ok, BK, whatever you say. Just go on living in your made up fantasies.
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Bwahahahaha! You will learn someday. That's OK, it's all apart of the experience.
Goodnight! |
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BK, it looks like you are the naive one. |
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BK, it looks like you are the naive one.
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"Barak is the messiah"
- Louis Farrakhan
"...is above the country, above the world, sort of god."
- Chris Matthews
"Represents Catholics better than The Pope."
- Kathleen Kennedy Townsend
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I cannot believe the 'stupid' people in this world that adores what is our 'so-called' President.
No way is he anywhere near being the Messiah. To me and my family he more like the one that we all should dread, The ANTICHRIST and Mark of the Beast which is becoming more apparent every day that BHO lives.
As soon as he appears on television, either in the USA or overseas, I either change the channel or Mute it because I am sick and tired of his lies. The man would not know the truth if it hit him in the face.
As for all these Csars that he is naming, I heard someone on television say that is so that he doesn't have to do any work and free to travel over the world with our tax dollars with his sickening wife. I can't afford to take a vacation but he can go sightseeing whenever the notion strikes 'them'.
Everyone but the MSM knows that he is not responsible and by naming Csars he will put the blame on them when everything starts crumbling, which it will since there are not enough rich people in the USA to carry the tax burden and then another lie comes along from his stupid campaign speeches about not taxing low and middle incomes. |
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Hundreds of millions of people adore President Obama, except some wing-nuts, and the wing nuts are the sane ones? |
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If people all over the world are adoring and respecting President Obama. Including a crowd of 200,000 in Germany. 100,000 in Missouri, so on and so on. Then would not the opposite party try to find out why, instead of bashing the man everyday?
38 million people watched the inauguration. Over 1 million at the event.
President Obama raised $745,000,000.00 for his campaign.
I think it's time the wing nuts tried a new strategy -- listen and learn. Instead of trying to be critical all the time, it won't work when it comes time to run against him again.
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President Obama raised $745,000,000.00 for his campaign.
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We could use that money now to help pay for the disasterous stimulus package. |
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In 24 posts you have certainly said enough to attract traffic to your blog, if there is any is to be attracted. Do you pay yourself by the word?
Meanwhile, you have trolled this thread to the point of boredom.
Worship Obama as you wish. Don't expect any adults to join you. I am sorry, this is reality.
Grow up. In a few years, we'll talk. You will express deep embarrassment.
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Hah! the joke is on me, it looks more like 26-27 posts. I'm through counting (See, conservatives can laugh at themselves).
Pay yourself by the word. You'll get rich.
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the delicate ANDREA. Is everyone feeling as especially blessed as I? Oh, goooood.
I thought there was a familiar odor emanating from her scaly skin...Could it possibly be the dozenth cloning-morphing of the always likable-admirable sewer dwelling vermin, Molly-Toa-Raelei-Wretchel-Jilly-Kimberlyric-Whatever..???
A BLACK HOLE OF EMOTIONAL NEED. Any Righty response to the insufferable, site klogging-kluttering-air sucking T'watt is like MIRACLE GROW to crabgrass. ENOUGH! |
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The are millions of adults all over the world joining me in my confidence and applause of President Obama.
I am here to offer you guys the view of most people. Most of you only see the wing nut view --a distorted view. You fall victim to right wing lies meant to confuse you, like Obama is not an American citizen. I am here to say to you -- wait a minute, that view IS distorted and let me try to open your eyes a little. |
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How the GW Bush Administration Sent $12 Billion in Cash to Iraq, and Watched it Vanish:
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Does BO promise to give the money he got from Unions to pay for it? or will he just ask the Democrats in Congress who approved the money to be used in Iraq. Why did the Dems support the Iraq War then? |
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Could we arrange a trade with them for one of their leaders? |
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Actually my skin smells quite good and is very subtle and soft. Though I am delicate. |
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Anrea "2" is just young and naive. She will learn soon enough of her folly. |
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We can go somewhere on this site and have our own private thread going back and forth. I am sure people here will get quite bored of our continued ping-ponging. If you are game, so am I. Name the place darling. |
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President Obama's personal popularity around the world is a tremendous resource for the United States. In electing Mr. Obama, the American people surprised and delighted the human race. The President is using the renewed esteem people around the world have for Americans to advance our national interests.
Mr. Obama is not a Messiah. As i noted below, you guys acted like Clinton was the lowest character ever to occupy the White House. Now, with a guy like Obama, who actually has some character and moral dignity, you claim we think he is the Messiah. it is just stupid talk--talk that speaks to your moral immaturity, not ours. clearly, your team is operating in a cartoonish moral space, where the narrative is overwrought and without true perspective.
we see Obama as a primary articulator of post-Boomer liberalism. you'd be wise to see him as the same. while it is lazily convenient simply to see those of us who voted for him as hysterical and deluded, the reality is that he won the national election--a black guy, for chrissakes--because he was able to articulate a post-boomer alternative to the dominant Boomer conservatism of the past 30 years. damn straight you should tremble. Republican "conservatives" are at serious risk of becoming
an insignificant minority in the decades to come. and you ain't gonna avoid that scenario by being dishonest about what you're up against.
As for the Reep confidence that Dem government is going to fail mightily, we'll have to see about that. no one knows the future, but not all predictions are the same. one thing i've learned from my three years in this place is not to confuse the certitudes of right-wingers with speculative substance. yeesh, i wish i had a dollar for every time someone blew a certainty out their cakehole that turned out wrong.. |
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We can go somewhere on this site and have our own private thread going back and forth. I am sure people here will get quite bored of our continued ping-ponging. If you are game, so am I. Name the place darling.
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BK vs. Patriotic Liberal.
Patriotic Liberal's last comment was intelligent and funny. His writing shows depth, understanding and knowledge.
BK, I can't say that about you. |
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Naive:
"Having unaffected simplicity; ingenuous; artless; unsophisticated."
As you grow up you will understand. |
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"Naive:
"Having unaffected simplicity; ingenuous; artless; unsophisticated."
As you grow up you will understand."
Bk, you are no doubt describing yourself there.
By the way, are you a guy or a gal? Are you married with kids?
I think you are a single guy living alone.
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Bk, you are no doubt describing yourself there.
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Can't be. I'm 63 yrs old. You can call me cynical but not naive. That term is for those who are gullible and who will buy anything or believe anything that they are told. I on the other hand don't trust "any" politician.
By the way, are you a guy or a gal? Are you married with kids?
I think you are a single guy living alone.
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Ok, progess here. We are getting to konw each other. Ok, I'll call you cynical and not naive. I am not naive either. I am a young looking 45 and it I am not a follower.
I am married too, but I am sure my husband would let me go on a date with you considering our opposing views and age difference. He won't be intimidated. He'll approve.
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I am married too, but I am sure my husband would let me go on a date with you considering our opposing views and age difference. He won't be intimidated. He'll approve
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Bwahahahaha! See Naive. LOL My philosophy is that if I wanted to date, I wouldn't have gotten married in the 1st place. or, given that my wife is Italian...I'd be dead!!!!!!!!
My wife is an independent but conservative...and she looks young too. Me...don't look so young! Bwahahahahahaha! x-athlete gone bad. |
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I don't want a real date with you, I'm just joking.
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Bwahahahahahaha! See naive! I knew that you were joking of course.
I got's to go for awhile. Play nice and have fun!
Nothing personal Andrea "2"...LOL...see, people CAN disagree without being disagreeable. Some wise elderly person said this....by God, it was ME! (insert.. Smiley face) |
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You wrote:
"My philosophy is that if I wanted to date, I wouldn't have gotten married in the 1st place. or, given that my wife is Italian...I'd be dead!!!!!!!!"
You clearly thought I wanted a date.
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Thank you for
“… moral immaturity…cartoonish moral space, where the narrative is overwrought and without true perspective.”
No facts there. Why must you work at rhetoric to persuade us that your view is right? Don’t bother to answer, I can see the reason.
“…articulate a post-boomer alternative to the dominant Boomer conservatism of the past 30 years.”
He used a slogan of ‘hope and change’ to get elected. Millions ate it up. It has worn out its welcome. Even the dying media are beginning to see.
He was fortunate to have Mrs. Clinton (dragging Mr. Clinton’s low character with her) and Mr. McCain as opponents.
The teenager resents the adult because both know that the adult is way ahead of the child. In a few short years, you will be surprised at how wise conservatives are. Especially if you work to pay for this ‘program.’ You plan to impoverish your grandchildren just to say you were part of ‘a post-boomer alternative’ to reality.
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Given that --
"Patriotic Liberal's last comment was intelligent and funny. His writing shows depth, understanding and knowledge."
I vote you go on a date with him.
You can teach him capitalization and maybe some grammar.
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That was funny JG. You got me. |
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My philosophy is that if I wanted to date, I wouldn't have gotten married in the 1st place. or, given that my wife is Italian...I'd be dead!!!!!!!!"
You clearly thought I wanted a date.
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Again, you keep proving my point about naivety!
There is no way, no how I would date anyone on the net. For all I know you could be 500#'s and ugly. I swear, the more you post the younger you sound. You can';t really think that I thought that you wanted to date. That was sarcasim in response to your rediculus statement.
Bwahahahahahahahaha! You must be drinking alot of Kool-aid. Bwahahahahahahaha! |
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BK, your comments are so ridiculous. If you are an example of all the GOP has left to offer, they are in deep trouble.
RonnaRonna,
You can't win converts with comments like that.
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no facts? i presented those in the very paragraph above--the overwrought, comic book narrative on Democratic politicians.
my style in these threads is to keep to the forest. i'll descend into the trees once in awhile, but i have found that when i have been challenged to produce facts, the response after i do produce them is to blithely reassert the basic narrative. so it is the "conservative" narrative that i like to talk about. the facts you either ignore or try to shoehorn into that narrative.
there is no wisdom with you guys. this generation has been a disgrace to conservatism. and also to punditry--you are almost invariably wrong in your prognostications on how things turn out, so you will forgive me for disregarding your prediction. after thirty years of failed Republican leadership, we are hip to the reality that we--not you--are the adults in the room. |
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faith is apparent. Going to church is one thing, living a moral life another. Check out the families past history, they are far from practicing their Religion. So we can take such an attitude "that Obama is more catholic then the Pope" with a grain of salt! Only in the deluded minds of the beguiled, smitten Kennedy clan, for the great Obama, who reminds them of their beloved John Kennedy etc., would such a referrence to the Pope be uttered! Obama is far from being a Christian; he certainly does not take a Catholic faith position. Ye will know them by their works.' True believers in the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, would never promote the death of a blotched, aborted living birth. Yet the Prez signed a bill to allow the vulnerable late term live baby to suffer and die alone. Please do not offend Catholics and the Pope with such nonsense. Frankly, Obama is more his fathers son, the Muslim, then any Christian Catholic. Ex Democrat
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I enjoyed trying to parse your hilarious and incoherent metaphoric attempt to descend from the forest to the trees. All the while you claimed wisdom.
I await your next interruption of adult discussion, which seems to be your aim. Meanwhile I plan to continue in my unwisdom.
Maybe, properly guided, I shall ultimately avoid disgracing conservatism.
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My name is Conservatism and my party is dying,
My loyalists keep complaining and constantly lying.
They try not to learn and live by example,
Just keep spewing hate and use Rush as a sample.
I don't know what to do, they all seem so bitter,
They support hypocrisy and stand behind a quitter.
My name is Conservatism help me if you can,
At this current pace, I'll soon be deader than a pan.
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welp, sarcasm is the instrument of the weak, as my dear old mom would say. for myself, i don't mind a little ball busting, if there is an argument to go along with it. you don't have one.
like i said, my interest is the subtext, the underlying narrative. i'll use facts, because the facts support me. but these are threads. this is a forum. and facts do not convince this generation of radical "conservatives." so one has to get at the underlying narrative--the thing that the radical "conservatives" are using to shoehorn the facts, or ignore them altogether.
that is a more bountiful line of inquiry. and all the idiotic sarcasm in the world won't change the truths a rational soul demands from moral narrative. |
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is that in a forum like this, there are constraints to diving into trees and coming back up to the forest. we use books to do that.
here we do not write books. But we do have room to evaluate the underlying precepts and principles. unfortunately, this generation of "conservatives"--with their soundbite mentality and impatience with thought--snicker at even that. tough luck for them. it is why conservatism has become morally degenerate, self-indulgent, and fundamentally irrelevant. not conservatism per se, but this generation of conservatism.
i was around in the late 70s, when conservatism snapped, crackled and popped with intellectual vibrancy--with ideas and soulfulness. today, after all those years in power, conservatism is a churlish fat aunt who sits on the sofa and lazily snaps at people walking by.
okay. the day is pressing in on me. i have favored you clowns with the sweet light of truth for long enough. later.
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BK, your comments are so ridiculous. If you are an example of all the GOP has left to offer, they are in deep trouble.
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Andrea writes: Saturday, July, 11, 2009 7:41 PM
stormie and Andrea
Oprah first called Obama "The One", Louis Farrakahn called him "The Messiah" and the editor of Newsweek said he is "like God." We are just repeating what we hear and see in his follower's devotion.
SO, YOU JUST REPEAT WHAT YOU HEAR - DOES THAT MEAN YOU LIBERALS ARE ALL JUST A BUNCH OF DUMB PARROTS??
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You are getting me mixed up with the liberal Andrea, dubbed by BK as "Andrea 2". I am "Andrea 1" the conservative. Now I am going to have to change my screen name like St. Denis/Denise from New Orleans did! |
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Not on your life..(for one thing not one of you rabid liberal dogs ever cut Bush any slack from 2000 election on..preferring the bulbous eyed
obese toad with the i.q. of an Ameoba, algore.)
Andrea..you are a nincompoop..give him a break
not when he's run roughshod over our CONSTITUTION! Abusin his powers taking over private businesses, firing privately hired CEO's,
spending OUR money worse than a drunken sailor could ever dream..NOPE No way!
I don't even consider him my president (I am an independent) because he hasn't proven to me he is eligible..he has spent at least a million trying to hide his information that John McCain was required by Congress (including himself as Illinois Senator) and was voted as a Natural Born Citizen, under the Constitution. This person you worship has arrogantly refused to prove himself which tells me, he AIN'T qualified to be POTUS and is a USURPER!
Not only that, but back in Vietnam our guys couldn't shoot unless shot at, this clown orders that our young Marines must NOT shoot back if shot at by the Taliban. This from an ABC reported embedded with them. I kind of take that
personally because My grandson, a Navy medic is serving with the Marines and most likely will be
sent there within months of his current deployement. In otherword, your god will stick with muslims, and allow them to have a turkey shoot on our Marines who won't be able to protect themselves if they send one of those poor child slaves amongst them as a suicide bomber. No Way! EVER! |
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Yes, it's me, "Andrea 1." It was getting too confusing, so I changed my screen name. Sorry about that. |
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is she kidding? Obama isn't even a Christian. If so he wouldn't promote late term abortions. The President signed a BILL ALLOWING A BLOTCHED ABORTED LIVE BIRTH TO SUFFER AND DIE. WHAT KIND OF CHRISTIANITY IS THAT? CERTAINLY NOT A TRUE CATHOLIC FAITH. PLEASE, KENNEDY DON'T OFFEND TRUE BELIEVERS WITH SUCH BLASPHEMY. I'VE HEARD IT ALL NOW. EX DEMOCRAT |
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that's OK. Should have names Andrea "2" Andrea "None". She was not only naive but pretensious snotnose to boot. These kids have no manners. |
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I hoped you enjoyed my poem below! ;-)
My poem pretty much says it all.
Good Night! |
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Andrea 2 said that she is in her 40s, but she comes across more like a starry-eyed adolescent. Part of the Obama-idolatry syndrome, I guess. |
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Agree. Know-it-all with an attitude. Hope someday she will grow up. |
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I must be getting old. I was thinking where do I know that from. The Doors! Senior moment. LOL |
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Yes, The Doors. As a child of the 1960s, rock n' roll is my one guilty pleasure and The Doors are my favorite. |
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We in the same pew. I grew up in the 50's and 60's. Love the Doo Wop music but Beatles, Stones and MoTown were my favorites.
Gonna call it a night. Have a good one. |
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Stem cell and abortion huh....Oh yeah the party of we'll take care of the first 9 months...but after birth you are on your own......Silly broken logic. Worring about the laid off worker in Michigan that is contemplating an abortion but won't give her healthcare to deal with her health issues in the absence of jobs that are not there....LOSERS and the only place that this psuedo-intellectual clumsiness gets you is the complaint about how people personally feel about the President and that he is upstaging a person (the pope) how doesn't suscribe to your thinking totally...he values all stages of life important...(the pope) |
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“what i meant is that in a forum like this, there are constraints to diving into trees and coming back up to the forest. we use books to do that.”
Now I will translate “the subtext, the underlying narrative” into English:
Uh oh, you are lost in three ways. You cannot get my grammar right, make a logical argument, or form useful and persuasive rhetorical devices. Everyone sees it; hey, you cannot even capitalize properly. So you pretend that this forum constrains you; you would be brilliant if we let you do it at book length.
You don’t know what the forest/trees metaphor means, but if you admit that you don’t know what you are talking about, those you have insulted will undress you in a public forum.
”here we do not write books. But we do have room to evaluate the underlying precepts and principles. unfortunately, this generation of "conservatives"--with their soundbite mentality and impatience with thought--snicker at even that. tough luck for them. it is why conservatism has become morally degenerate, self-indulgent, and fundamentally irrelevant. not conservatism per se, but this generation of conservatism.”
You borrow this common critique of liberals, then put it on conservatives. Knowing that I would figure you out and laugh you out of the room, you shared…
“okay. the day is pressing in on me. i have favored you clowns with the sweet light of truth for long enough. later.”
I pity you, but you are far below average. Go empty your diapers somewhere else. I put this in mild language compared to what I might have said.
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Stem cell and abortion huh....Oh yeah the party of we'll take care of the first 9 months...but after birth you are on your own......Silly broken logic. Worring about the laid off worker in Michigan that is contemplating an abortion but won't give her healthcare to deal with her health issues in the absence of jobs that are not there....
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Nice spin....Bull-Sh!t...but nice spin. Dems version is to kill all babies and old people.
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Yes, they are entertaining. And not too bright.
I just unloaded on one of them.
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Is Abortion health care?
Give me a break -
What are you saying?
Are you saying all the uninsured should have been aborted or have all their children aborted?
Are you saying all laid off workers should abort their children?
Are you saying all who are in favor of health care are in favor of abortion?
Are you saying abortion is health care?
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Gimmeabreak is....GIMME-A-BREAK! He's a hotair balloon! |
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oh please. come back when you have an argument. no wonder conservatism is such a joke these days--it is just mocking and insults. nothing wrong with these things, of course, when they are accompanied by an argument. but i'm afraid snickering at my punctuation and my supposed inability to grasp the forest/tree distinction amounts to a whole lot of nuthin'. similarly, many of the criticisms leveled at the left thirty years ago--and which were carried forward by "conservatives" to this day, alberit as tiresome cliche--are aptly leveled at the right today.
so, take your stupidass victory lap. raise your arms in triumph. you're a ridiculous fool, and i slam dunk guys like you in here every week. |
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What are you talking about....Answer your own demons real or otherwise.....What I am saying is that you guys/gals advocate that life is precious and none should be wasted. Well in my view life is a continuum and all stages of it should be held in high regard all who go down that journey are worthy of equal stature….But in your world….we are left to solid and unwavering rigid constructs of who or what should be allotted to its citizens. If it were left to your spinning, back when Medicad and medicare came on line you would not value the life that is nearing its completion to be helped to die or prolong their life with dignity…you would simply call it socialism or some other non-value meaning garbage. Yet you are up in arms about protecting pre-birth souls and anti-killing of babies but yet you would do away with any help for that person should they need it after they get here. So ms. 22 its not about healthcare and the other empty phrases you throw around its about living up to those Christian values… that I am my brother’s keeper regardless of his 401K plan or which projects he is “housing” in. Or what lobby group he belongs to or whatever superficial thing that matters once he lands here on earth. Ka-pish your Emptiness…. |
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PatLib,
Are you under a delusion about what happened here? You just got a spanking.
I am sorry I had to do it.
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Yet you are up in arms about protecting pre-birth souls and anti-killing of babies but yet you would do away with any help for that person should they need it after they get here.
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You know this how? Who told you this? Then you are saying that you support abortion and it's OK cause conservatives wouldn't provide care after birth. Get your story straight.
Maybe it's about bad decisions. Maybe those parents are drug dealers or gangbangers. If so, then you rail at the fact that maybe we should take care of them or allow them to get abortions because obviously, they won't be taken care of by the parents so therefore, we should just kill them to save them from the aggravation.
Maybe we should take care of those babies instead of killing them because it is apparent that THEY didn't get the opportunity to make bad decisions. How about, instead, we kill those parents who made bad decisions of using drugs, committing crimes instead of the babies. THAT would be more just. |
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Give me a break posts - "Yet you are up in arms about protecting pre-birth souls and anti-killing of babies but yet you would do away with any help for that person should they need it after they get here."
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Let us say for the sake of debate that you are correct (you are not but we will go with it for now)
Even if every single conservative fit your stero type how would that make killing babies okay?
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or "j"ust "g"ay thoughts....as in happy! Wow nice flashy words and a stong word processor makes your arguement that more impressively stupid.........where is your manifestos that you've submitted.... who died and made you dean of the daycare.........You make noise albeit thru this quiet thinking site...however, you dont make logical connections between reality and your rigid constructs...life does not ebb and flow and nicely fits into your nicely manicured boxes....yet your logic seems to find comfort in those empty boxes. Losers, that why last November you all were fired. The same ones that blamed Clinton for 911 and Barack for the economy. Now 6 months later the mess he found is his mess. A logical impossiblity. Talk to you after Barack's 2nd term....Thats as long as the assinations stick to being character, but I wouldnt be surprised if you losers stoked some conservative anti-baby killer to move beyond the character. But you would probably hide your hand. |
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it is a spanking when you deliver a clinching argument--not simply mock what i say. i don't mind the ball-busting--heck, i do it myuself--but they do not a spanking make. but go ahead and pump your fists. it is always funny to see you children play make-believe. |
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He's a legend in his own mind. And part of his MO when he gets pressed, I've learned, is to always say something along the lines of "come back with an argument" after he's been out-argued, as well as to complain about the "mocking and insults" of his conservative opponents when all he ever does is mock and insult. That's his version of "slam-dunking", you see. It's pathetic. |
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you only care about the preborn as a political issue and as a means to control 'irresponsible' conduct. When a baby is born, esp. to an illegal immigrant, you want that baby thrown out of the hospital and across the border.
You don't care about abortion, you care about politics. |
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typo on "myuself." I guess this means jg "wins" and i'm "pitiful." |
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you are taken with jg's points? good lord, what a disappointment.
btw, now that i have some time, responding to your points on that other thread. |
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"you are taken with jg's points?"
It's more the case that I am underwhelmed by yours. As always.
"btw, now that i have some time, responding to your points on that other thread."
Zzzzz. |
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i live for your disdain. initially, it bugged me, as i thought you might be diff. than the other conservatives. now i see the smug stupidity that is you. anyhow, speaking of spanking, i responded to your comment. zzzz thru it all you want. it is an example of how one meets challenges with arguments, rather than mere insults. |
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"it is an example of how one meets challenges with arguments, rather than mere insults."
It is, is it?
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Kaboom posts "When a baby is born, esp. to an illegal immigrant, you want that baby thrown out of the hospital and across the border.You don't care about abortion, you care about politics."
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Right back at ya - you don't care about illegal immigrants you care about politics
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"Obama says his health plan won't include undocumented immigrants
Phoenix Business Journal - by Mike Sunnucks
Some liberal and left-wing groups are pushing for possible universal health insurance plans to cover the more than 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S..
But Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign Friday said his universal health plans do not extend to undocumented immigrants......"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az =view_all&address=284x495 |
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immigration reform in 1986, and proceeded to never enforce it. You ran Congress until 2007, and never enforced the law. The only way to stop illegal immigration is to punish employers, but you didn't and won't do that.
A big percentage of the 'illegals' are minors, children either born here or elsewhere. You want to deny them healthcare, which certainly isn't good for the rest of us, esp. when the kids are in school, as they are legally. And american born kids of any immigrant are american citizens, if they choose to be.
Like I said...you only care about the 'pre-born' to control 'irresponsibility' and women. When the kids get here, they are on their own. |
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Right back at ya - you don't care about illegal immigrants you care about politics
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"Obama says his health plan won't include undocumented immigrants
Phoenix Business Journal - by Mike Sunnucks
Some liberal and left-wing groups are pushing for possible universal health insurance plans to cover the more than 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S..
But Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign Friday said his universal health plans do not extend to undocumented immigrants......"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az =view_all&address=284x495 |
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Kaboom
Dems are all about politics and don't care about the illegals born or unborn
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Democrats propose legislation to allow prosecution of illegal immigrant drivers
By BCDC
Democratic State Assembly candidates Bill Brown and Debbie Sarcone today unveiled legislation that would increase the penalties faced by individuals who cause a motor vehicle accident when they are in the United States illegally – and to extend the penalties to punish those who allow illegal drivers to operate motor vehicles.
http://www.politickernj.com/bcdc/31117/democrats-propose-le gislation-allow-prosecution-illegal-immigrant-drivers |
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Thanks, that fills in some gaps. I don't have your experience with PatLib's MO. I see only that he reeks contempt and did not offer substance, at least not here.
I saw a vague claim that we will not believe facts, but these facts were not supplied. I also saw the promise that we would be overwhelmed if only we could reach his intellectual level.
I thought we might run into some truth, but he kept on about the forest and the trees.
Thanks again. I really wasn't sure what I was looking at.
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I am happy enough, thank you. Just so you know, I try to use accurate words; I don’t try for flashy. Nor do I have a “stong” word processor. I use MS Word like millions of others.
In the spirit of your (quite funny!) daycare metaphor, I regret that you soiled yourself with “life does not ebb and flow and nicely fits into your nicely manicured boxes.”
Are you talking about the tide? Or how to manicure a box?
With equal eloquence you commit the meaningless, “Thats as long as the assinations stick to being character,…” are you talking about some assignment? Or some association? or an assassination?
Get the picture? I thank you for some vivid images, but they make no sense. It is as if you intended to make “…your arguement that more impressively stupid.” (Can you find the error? Hint: You are its author).
You liberals should not play with metaphors; they are dangerous and you don’t seem to understand how they work.
To conclude, you must start with grammar, then logic, and only then rhetoric which includes metaphors. You may share this with Patriot Liberal. One day both of you can aspire to “a stong word processor makes your arguement that more impressively stupid.........” and emerge from the daycare center.
Your obedient servant,
The Dean of Daycare
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April...
we need to legalize all who are here, and then put businesses out of business who hire any new illegals who show up. Oh, and put the business owners in jail. |
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Kaboom posts: "we need to legalize all who are here, and then put businesses out of business who hire any new illegals who show up. Oh, and put the business owners in jail."
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but denying healthcare is hurtful to children who are already here. And you don't care.
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Obama and the dems just don't care
Right back at ya - you don't care about illegal immigrants you care about politics
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Obama and the dems just don't care
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"Obama says his health plan won't include undocumented immigrants
Phoenix Business Journal - by Mike Sunnucks
Some liberal and left-wing groups are pushing for possible universal health insurance plans to cover the more than 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S..
But Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign Friday said his universal health plans do not extend to undocumented immigrants......"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az =view_all&address=284x495 |
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I have half a mind to start using proper punctuation, just to give guys like you one less thing to whine about. Usually I am on a time frame and I try to blaze through these posts using what I was taught in that eighth greade typing class.
I'll give you that my thought about narrative vs. facts--forest vs. trees--was probably inarticulately expressed. Whatever. Quite possibly you were too lazy and self-satisfied to march through it. Cannot blame you for that, though. In the end, here at Townhall, it is on me to make the thought as clear and concise as possible. Specifically, I am interested in the principles we use to guide our thinking. Presumably we have it in ourselves to change our thinking when the facts--objective reality--warrants it. I know I do. It is an element of living in accordance to an objective moral universe. Not to mention the humility of understanding that we may be wrong.
I don't like right-wing triumphalism. Like most forms of human phoniness, it turns my stomach. I can handle lying in the service of a higher calling--such as human decency. For instance, one lies to his wife about her haircut because that is the decent thing to do. But this sense among American "conservatives" that they are part of a mighty tide of truth is ridiculous, and it leads to this ridiculous strutting and taunting, like a frigging high school tailback.
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Again happy words. Your logic spoils for those that think sir. LIFE ebbs and Flows....like a tide it brings(life...that is) all that is part of its bounty....changing with each observation but regardless of the perspective of that participant (ie bankers, immigrants, pic for supreme court, micheal jackson...what technologies and/or even lesser communities-lol) add to where we are in this ebbing matrix we call life......Never can one cleanly place it within a manicured setting ....for this example I called the setting a box...I hope now your lofty engaging grammatically correct pose brings you to intellectual honesty....jg ......again that engaging self emerges.... obviously you got my drift. you followed the metaphors exactly to their logical conclusion...In advance let me apologize for my errors in display....im on my iphone and although a great dvice not thee best qwerty. Take care of the kids. Tantrums are part of the analysis for sure. Runn them around the broken logic-ra-sel soon to retire them.... no brain movement on your part.... your to busy with the stay within the line text for the day. While you offer nothing but funny distractions..... |
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we need to legalize all who are here, and then put businesses out of business who hire any new illegals who show up. Oh, and put the business owners in jail.
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"For instance, one lies to his wife about her haircut because that is the decent thing to do."
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seems to me you need to listen to my "lecture." might keep your idiotic head from being bitten off by your wife.
in addition to decency, i was raised on football. and it there is one thing i hate, it is strutting and taunting on the field. one's sportsmanship reveals one's character--that's how i learned, anyhow. |
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The reason she does not know much about football is quite simple.
The Rams came from somewhere else---only to leave.
The Raiders came from somewhere else, only to leave.
Similar to the frustrations of a baseball fan in Los Angeles. The Dodgers came from Brooklyn. Their best years were lived out long before they went mobile.
And the Lakers?
Well, there is really no depth from the fans there either. That team emanates from the land of Lakes, way up there in the midwest. How could the roots of real passion be deep when all of their sport's teams were brought in from elsewhere.
Football? The head-scratching question has been, at least for a decade, how a city comprised of the population boasted by the city of angels, could remain satiated, sans football.
They simply do not believe in "organically" grown football. Otherwise-----they'd have long ago settled that issue by creating one.
They cannot do it.
They do not understand the concept of loyalty to substantiate such an investment. They boast of their diversity, in distractions of course.
"I'm only two hours from the mountains, yet, I'm only 15 minutes from the beach", and all of that phony baloney. It's their mainstream mantra.
Not sports.
They're not wired for it.
I've attended several Dodger games. Most of the fans cannot even last it out to the 7th inning, secretly, they're afraid of "stretch marks"----you know, self image issues and all that. LOL.
Yep---they are up and leaving around the fifth inning. Too important to get on the 5 freeway (and 101, and 110, and...) so they can make it home before dark (all those traffic jams, etc.).
It really is a HOOT! Millions upon millions upon millions of people, and.........no football. Well, except for those whining trojans and wheezy Bruins. Now there's a compromise. |
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you new york/boston fools are the only ones in the country with a sports heritage. listen to you. what a leering clown...
glad you left, chump. but try not to work out your pathologies on the best local sports tradition in the good ol' USA. whatever anger and resentment you still harbor towards South California, i am sorry for that. not every new yorker likes it here. |
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Boy---the Truth cuts deep now does'nt it?
Your panties are all bunched up now, you phoney little spewer.
And Truth is exactly that which presides over the sport's "climate" in southern California.
New York/Boston?
Hardly, lightweight.
Ohio has a long and storied tradition in defining loyalty to sports.
The "DAWGS" in Ceveland are perennially present. It does not matter to them what the W/L box looks like---their in for the long term---something you know nothing about (even your politics reflect this with its "wishy-washy" hard-to-define version of what it is you believe in.
Your self-described "cafeteria" (and seldom-seen-in-a-pew) Catholicism is another glaring example of your commitments. I could give a crap, personally---but it sheds light on all of that self righteous indignation you are quick to dish out to everyone in here. Gives real meaning to it.
Green Bay Wisconsin could teach you volumes about sports.
As could Minnesota.
As could Indianapolis.
Now there's a SMALL city that rebuilt a love for a team that moved.
Baltimore? Organic growth defined.
Dallas? Whew, as putrid as that team is (Cowboys), they could school you for years on sports.
SO---spare me your personal indignation for New York/Boston sports, bub----it falls flat with me. There are numerous examples of cities-------cities with a fraction of the population you swim among------cities which know how to treat their franchises, or, at least show the appreciation for what they have.
Los Angeles?
As pathetic as you are in its wishy-washy, phoney preening of what it is.
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Awwwwwwwwww,
"whatever anger and resentment you still harbor towards South California, i am sorry for that."
Hey, you finger waggin' weenie, I harbor resentment for south California nor north California.
Just its superficiality---which is legion, and every bit as much its legacy as "hot tubs".
I still have siblings who live there.
I still have more distant relatives who settled there a century ago.
Some of my best friends live there ("free will" at its best). One of whom is staying at my home as I type this.
So save your weak attempt at psychoanalysis.
I met far too many confused souls in SoCal---not unlike you. Many were neighbors. I changed that. And am infinitley happier for it.
SoCAl?
I love so many parts of what it offers-----just not the phonies, who are so well represented by the likes of you----and Hollywierd. You were made for each other. |
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Should have read,
I harbor NO resentment towards SoCal...(with exceptions for phonies noted) |
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I've never understood the idea of loyalty to a professional sports team. They're BUSINESSES, for gosh sakes, and pretty exploitative ones at that. They put more effort into practicing extortion on city governments than they do into winning games. You might as well be fanatically loyal to Safeway, or wear clothes with Office Depot logos all over them.
Unfortunately, a great deal of my family is from Wisconsin -- the UP, Beloit, Eau Claire, Wausau -- which means they all wear hats made of cheese. I can't so much as snicker at the idea of going to a football game when it's forty below. |
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as a rule lately, i have not been psychoanalyzing, even though you are ripe for it. i find myself resenting the psychobabble that clowns like you and others dish out. it is a kind of moral laziness.
unsurprisingly, when it comes to sports, you are a bundle of cliches and stupidities. back when i was in my 20s and even 30s, i would have been riled by such nonsense. now i just shrug. i understand that one's views on sports speaks to his character, but for some reason, it doesn't fill me with passion any more. i guess, when it comes to sports, i have hit a place of pure rationality--a kind of historical purity. not to toot my horn. in other areas i flounder, but sports? sports is easy. sports is eternal recurrence. if you cannot figure out sports, how are you going to figure out morality, religion, and politics? |
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Hey Bunck,
Now you've simply come up with yet another idea, another business sector your Messiah can appoint a Czar for.
"Professional Sport's Czar"-----yeah, has such a comforting ring to it---well, for Liberal-losers anyway
No----wiat, wait, Obummer could appoint a Czar for each sport:
MLB Czar
NFL Czar
NBA Czar
NHL CZar
US Olympic Czar
US Lacrosse Czar
Yeah, you get the point. It could contribute to literally dozens of new job creations----you know, to go along with all of those "jobs saved" that Obummer has accomplished.
Yeah----Obummer can rout out all of the corruption, ugliness, greed, sloth, drug abuse that you're so quick to point out. Yep----he can "CHANGE" all of this as well.
There will be forthcoming "HOPE" in the Wide World of Sports.
And, he'll finally bring a healthy dose of meaning, for schmoes like you, to what all of that "loyalty-schmoyalty" falderal is.
Yep---you've put your finger on another "ugly truth" within this God-forsaken country.
Henceforth, there shall be:
Sport's Czars.
Coming to a stadium near you.
Of course, with your hapless tribute to the institution of "Star Trek", we'll also have to expect Obummer to appoint a "Star Trek Czar" as well. I mean, the hellacious acting in that lame excuse-of-a-show will have to have a Czar for all of the syndication its programs enjoy. Obummer will correct that too.
There simply needs to be governmental address to the idiotic concept of, "Trekkies". |
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but i think the "car czar" is now retired. |
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You cannot take it back, Oh sport's-balanced One.
Your anger noted in that post was palpable---lashing out at New York/Boston sport's fans in one fell swoop.
Nope-----you flung it out there.
You can try to dress it up in all of your wishy-washy wisdom.
You see the laughable TRUTH in L.A.'s sport's climate. You simply cannot admit it, rather, yours is an effort to show how much you've "risen above" this undeniable realism.
Yeah-----right.
The Truth hurts plenty.
Even for those who make every effort to shroud it in Hollywierdesque holiness.
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no anger towards the ny/boston "sports axis." but i am not a fool either. i understand how there are certain people who think their local sports stories are national, and their national sports stories are "classic." as for your diatribe, i have heard it my entire life. like i said, it used to tee me off. now, i get teed off about things, but not that stuff. on that stuff, i have achieved some clarity. nothing wishy-washy about it. if you're lucky, i'll dispense some of my sports wisdom in your direction at some point. it dispenses quite naturally. right now, though, i don't feel like shouting into the wind against an argument i have heard and responded to a zillion times. in the end, the civic egoism aspect of sports is mundane--kinda like you, actually. anyone with genuine clarity on sports understands that. root for your hometeam and respect the heritage--that's all i can say. |
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i may be mistaken
but i think the "car czar" is now retired.
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No he is getting indicted and has been replaced by some guy from the Unions as Czar! |
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no anger towards the ny/boston "sports axis."
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I have no problem with this but you make fun of Steelers and Penquins and we'd be fightn! LOL |
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thanks for clarifying the car czar thing. indicted? yikes..
regarding your Steelers, nothing but respect.
as for your Penguins, hockey ain't my game. didn't play it, other than banging around in the hallway with my brothers. looks like fun, though. seems like a sport with a lot of jagged edges--skates, sticks, the puck, sides of net. i could see how a guy might pick up a few scars. |
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thanks for clarifying the car czar thing. indicted? yikes..
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No, not yet but there is word that he is being investigated in NY.
as for your Penguins, hockey ain't my game. didn't play it, other than banging around in the hallway with my brothers. looks like fun, though.
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I wasn't a fan of Hockey either..actually baseball was my game. However, these young guys play with enthusiasm and play as a team. Something exciting about watching them play. Was all but bankrupt and sold out of town 5-6 years ago and now have sold out the arena for the last 3 years. |
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PatLib,
If I was going to answer you, I would take you up on:
“Quite possibly you were too lazy and self-satisfied to march through it. Cannot blame you for that, though.”
Good Lord, now your method of disputation is to suggest in a sly manner that I am lazy and self-satisfied. Then you claim to let me off the hook by not blaming me. Huh?
But I am not going to answer you. You are too silly.
Adios,
Dean of Daycare
PS - you now get the last word. Do something positive with it
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Sorry so slow to reply. I was doing the laundry here at the daycare center. You guys sure can fill a diaper.
You iphone did not cause you to emit --
“Your logic spoils for those that think sir.”
It isn’t just logic, GMAB. Your claim to be one of “those that think” is standard leftbabble, the stuff you guys fill your diapers with. Then you empty them here. The claim itself is embarrassing.
Don’t you see that?
Speaking of funny distractions, I nominate your deathless “…no brain movement on your part....” as the funniest line in this thread. It is hilarious coming from you.
Adios,
The Dean of Daycare
PS - You, too, get the last word. Just like PatLib. Use it well.
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my entire sentence was this:
"I'll give you that my thought about narrative vs. facts--forest vs. trees--was probably inarticulately expressed. Whatever. Quite possibly you were too lazy and self-satisfied to march through it. Cannot blame you for that, though. In the end, here at Townhall, it is on me to make the thought as clear and concise as possible."
you take umbrage? you will not condesend to respond? you really are a prickly one, aren't you?! that's okay. i was nice, basically. now i know the cut of your jib. i thought it may be me. it wasn't. it was you.
i am really astonished at the lack of integrity in these parts. i have always credited conservatives for their character. cannot even do that any more. |
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when someone says quite possibly i am lazy or self-satisfied, i think that quite possibly i am not. but i also recognize the possibility that maybe i am. and given the broader context of what i said, in light of what was said previously, my post was relatively inoffensive. but still, from you, little wounded baby. jeez. anyhow, i gotta go. that's my last word to you, unless you post something that i want to comment on.. |
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writes,
"no anger towards the ny/boston "sports axis." but i am not a fool either. i understand how there are certain people who think their local sports stories are national, and their national sports stories are "classic." as for your diatribe, i have heard it my entire life."
Of course there was anger---I touched an unresolved nerve--so be it. However, you've not heard one "classic" sport's story from me.
Name one...
None of my "local sport's stories were 'national'".
None of my "national sport's stories are'classic'".
So there, finger-waggin' weenie. Once again, you make your best efforts to attach to me ("certain people") these arguments you keep pullin' outta your hat. And if yours is no intent to attach it to me---what is really the point in referencing them?
BOTTOM LINE:
The only reason you know of where I am from is by having heard an off comment made to Neo over a year and a half ago---which is when I enjoyed a bit of Super Bowl revelry. Otherwise, lightweight, I make no such declarations.
You know, like you sharing your birthdate a couple of weeks ago and other personal info you've "felt" the need to divulge in this public forum. Which is consistent with so much of your, "neediness" identified over the past 3 plus years.
My style is not spewing sport's stories.
My style is not proselytizing.
So go address those individuals who YOU have a specific beef with in these areas. 'Cuz you surely have let us all know you got one.
It's wasted time here.
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and his "eighth grade typing class" line! How many times have you used that one. You musta' been in the slow class, it was seventh grade typing class for the smart ones. |
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