Wednesday, November 04, 2009
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Why Maine Stinks For The Gay Rights Movement
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Posted by:
Jillian Bandes at
11:06 AM
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1. They lost was in New England, where they're supposed to have a stronghold.
2. They outspent traditional-marriage advocates by over 2-1.
3. They poured in man-hours and lobbying efforts from other states, and they couldn't even steal it that way.
4. Democratic Governor John Baldacci had enthusiastically thrown his support behind the law, and was roundly rebuked.
5. They got a little momentum from Washington State, which approved their gay marriage referendum, but no one really cares. Meaning that all eyes are on Maine, and everyone saw them fail.
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We, the people of Maine.
We still have a voice. Hallelujia! |
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two percent of the population to make policy for the other 98%? Idiots. |
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I beg to differ on #5 Jillian, I care. This state continues down the path of stupid is as stupid votes. We are losing Boeing, jobs, and the state is facing massive debt brought about by massive overspending by state government and the voters just rejected a initiative that would have limited growth of county and city revenues. Stupid is as stupid votes. |
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Congratulations and job well done, I am hearing the news is not all bad in WA., we have apparently dumped a couple dems. |
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I'm proud of you and all your fellow Mainiacs....!
Of course you know they'll try again....just like out here in CA. 'seems they LIKE taking it in the shorts every now and again....
Go figure.... |
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go into Maine woods without watching your back. Side. |
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until it passes. Like a two year old throwing a temper tantrum, eventually society will tire of the noise and it will pass.
Except the noise will not stop there. After that they will go after school children for using the phrase "that's so gay" (oh wait, they are already doing that) or pass sexual orientation discrimination laws (oh wait that is already going on as well).
What will they have to whine about next? |
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Jillian,
A cursory review of human history confirms time and again that human beings do not give deep-seated prejudices against "others," without a fight.
Just look back a short ways in our own history to remind all of us that assuring civil right for the former slaves, assuring American women the right to vote, etc, etc,
did not come easy, and did not happen quickly..and did require stepping over numerous dead bodies. |
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You must be abysmally ignorant, Coopwuss,
Civil rights for former slaves, assuring American women the right to vote, etc, etc, have nothing to do with marriage rights.
A farce is still a farce, you and another male have no "right" to get married.
Those you call upon for your own justification did not demand anything farcical. A right to vote isn't against nature, as your madness is. The anti-discrimination fight was a just endeavor for all of us except white supremacists.
You can't claim anyone has made you an inferior; you already have civil rights. What you keep demanding is EXTRAORDINARY RIGHTS.
And there's nothing in you that's worthy. You're merely a mental eunuch. Women turn you off.
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civil rights are civil rights, in the US.
Speaking of ignoramus-asssses...
Its always the macho men like you wannabe, that immediately start calling other guys the "homo" slurs, to viagra-size their puny, limp egos.
I don't give a rat's assss about what you think.
civil rights are civil rights, in the US. The Consitution protects the minority rights.
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is "Townhall coop". Why? Because he is in the fine tradition of "Baghdad Bob". If you'll remember, as the US Military was marching into Baghdad, he took to the airways, and breathlessly proclaimed that "no", the US Military was not entering the city, and all ways well! A kind of a ,"Don't worry, be happy" thing! That's "coopies" function here at Th. "Don't worry, be happy", leftists! But, he does share this honor with one of his leftist bros., that would be, "Townhall Jax". Both have made "Baghdad Bob" proud! They provide a very important and needed function here, for without em' our leftists might very well do harm to themselves. Specially after last night. Barry obama, "Townhall coop, and "Townhall Jax", weren't watchin' last night, but instead barry had em' over and they gave him their, "don't worry, be happy" message! See how important they are! |
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Here's a good old quote from a religious slave owner....
"If the white man attempts to oppose the Deity's will, by trying to make the ne gro anything else than "the submissive knee-bender," (which the Almighty declared he should be,) by trying to raise him to a level with himself, or by putting himself on an equality with the ne gro; or if he abuses the power which God has given him over his fellow-man, by being cruel to him, or punishing him in anger, or by neglecting to protect him from the wanton abuses of his fellow-servants and all others, or by denying him the usual comforts and necessaries of life, the
ne gro will run away; but if he keeps him in the position that we learn from the Scriptures he was intended to occupy, that is, the position of submission; and if his master or overseer be kind and gracious in his hearing towards him, without condescension, and at the sane time ministers to his physical wants, and protects him from abuses, the ne gro is spell-bound, and cannot run away."
De Bow's Review
Southern and Western States
Volume XI, New Orleans, 1851
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You're always going to be able to find people claiming to do things in the name of God, Jesus, the Bible, or Christianity (or any other source of inspiration) who are wrong, coop. Did you know that Darwin wrote racists things? So what?
How about all of the charities, hospitals, universities (including some of our most respected) and good things started in the name of Christ?
The kind of racism and slavery that you cite denied the humanity of an entire set of people (which abortion advocates do now). I do not deny the full humanity of a homosexual person, nor seek to deprive him of equal access.
One need not be a supernaturalist or Bible reader or even disapprove of homosexual behavior to understand that marriage unites the sexes. Without that core element, it isn't marriage. It is something else. |
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Because 'we the people' said so, that's what! It's now 30 states and they have all said NO THANK YOU! The issue is - Americans have a chance to vote and decide, and they have said No 30 times. When we get the 2/3rds, we can move for a federal Ammendment - of course Obama will have to be unseated first - but that we can do if we 'speak to truth in power'. Didn't the white house promise to do that? Then why are they REQUIRING americans to purchase a public option and violating our constitutional rights? |
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I just read your linked and excellent blog posting on why marriage should not be neutered. Yours is the most eloquent piece I've ever read on the subject. Thanks for linking to it, though I doubt that others of a certain political or sexual persuasion would ever really read it.
Happy November 4th-a great day in our Republic today!
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"3. They poured in man-hours and lobbying efforts from other states, and they couldn't even steal it that way"
Does outside effort count as 'stealing' an election? Did it in NY-23? Did it in California's Prop 8? |
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"Religion? Defining other people's rights
Here's a good old quote from a religious slave owner...."
Heck, why not go straight to St. Paul: "Slaves should obey their masters."
(That's the cue for all the fundamentalists who insist on literal interpretations of verses about sodomy to come in here and lecture us on how St. Paul needs to be understood and INTERPRETED in the context of his time.) |
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'we the people' do not have the say over Constitutional rights.
Or you would still be owning slaves. |
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think St. Paul should have instigated slave rebellions with the resultant deaths to the slaves?
get a clue leftists, your thinking is built upon ignorance and irrationality. |
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the afri-negro_s. everyone except the afri-negro_s acknowledge that.
who else besides their owners could get a minority population to committ genocide on themselves.
when did negro__ become an unacceptable word? |
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Maine: The Mississippi of New England! Think that'll fit on a license plate? |
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... wasn't it democrats who fought in support of slavery in the first place? Built their house on shifting sand, no moral compass, no moral standing. |
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does the ignorant vlad think St. Paul should have instigated slave rebellions with the resultant deaths to the slaves? get a clue leftists, your thinking is built upon ignorance and irrationality.
Me- Uh,no, he should have preached to the slave owners that owning slaves was wrong. the slaves largely couldn't read, anyway. Of course, your beneficient, loving, and ominpotently just Invisible Sky Pixie couldn't say what what is quite obvious to us heathens in the 21st century.
One human being owning another is morally wrong on every level.
Yet the bible never says that. Ever. In fact, it includes a bunch of instructions on how to treat slaves, treating some worse than others.
So if your Sky Pixie got that one so obviously wrong, why should we base how we treat gay folks on what the Bible says?
Now, Eddie, before you go onto another one of your rants about "same sex sodomy" (as opposed to opposite sex sodomy?) I'm only asking this rhetorically. You Christian hypocrites are great at ignoring parts of the bible you don't like.
Like the part about Jesus saying you should give away your worldly goods to the poor. Or the part about never getting a divorce.
The bible is only good for justifying your own bigotry, no one really expects you to live by it.
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The younger generation is more tolerant... as bigoted old church goers die off and find out there is no Invisible Sky Pixie to reward their bigotry, the young are doing the right thing...
Every state where you do win, the margin becomes smaller and smaller... while big corporations are actually giving out domestic partner benefits ahead of the law... |
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"the dems still own
the afri-negro_s. everyone except the afri-negro_s acknowledge that.
who else besides their owners could get a minority population to committ genocide on themselves.
when did negro__ become an unacceptable word?"
Me- Probably after Captain Oxycotin started singing about "magic" ones.
I'm kind of wondering, if the African American population is growing FASTER than the white population, how is that genocide? Oh, never mind, that would mean delving into the fever swamp of Eddie's brain.
Okay, to the point here... Of course African-Americans don't trust Republicans... Goldwater's opposition to the civil rights bill of 1964, Nixon's southern strategy, Reagan's Welfare Queens, Bush's Willie Horton ad, Jesse Helms "white hands" ad. Blacks look at Republicans as people who've tried to screw them at every oppurtunity. Maybe the Dems screw up and take them for granted, but they are at least trying to do the right thing... and look who's president right now!
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Does the ignorant Eddie think Jesus should have preached rebellion to his followers and gotten them all killed? No. OK, I guess what Jesus said doesn't really count then. |
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