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Wednesday, May 21, 2008
Lieberman and Gillespie
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at 9:31 AM
Senator Joseph Lieberman and White House Communications Director Ed Gillespie were guests yesterday.

Lieberman has an op-ed in today's Wall Street Journal, "Democrats and Our Enemies," which begins:

How did the Democratic Party get here? How did the party of Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman and John F. Kennedy drift so far from the foreign policy and national security principles and policies that were at the core of its identity and its purpose?
The transcript of our conversation is here.  One exchange:

HH: Do you expect to address the Republican convention, Senator? 

JL: You know, I don’t know. I’ve said that if John McCain asked me to do it, I would do it, because I support his candidacy that strongly, and I think this election year, this presidential election is that important to our future security, obviously to the way our government will run, and the way our economy will be for the next period of our history.  

The transcript of the conversation with Gillespie is here.  Most of our conversation dealt with NBC';s fraudulent editing of a recent interview the network conducted with the president. At the conclusion of our talk, we discussed MSNBC's descent into madness:

HH: Ed Gillespie, I don’t know who drew the short straw in your shop, and this may very well, I hope, earns us another worst person in the world nominee, but someone’s got to watch Keith Olbermann, and someone has to watch Chris Matthews, because you’re the White House, and you’ve got to know what they’re saying, even if it is a marginal network watched by hard left extremists. 

EG: Yeah, it’s somebody below me, Hugh (laughing). 

HH: But I mean, hasn’t the impression spread that this is really about ratings? They don’t believe this stuff. They just do what they have to do to get ratings. And if that means going hard left and perverting the news, they’ll pervert the news. And Olbermann’s a sports guy. He doesn’t understand it anyway. What do you guys do about that? I mean, I wouldn’t even bother sending them e-mails. They’re obviously beyond the pale.  

EG: Well look, we don’t. I mean, Christopher Matthews and Keith Olbermann, you know, they’re advocates for a worldview that obviously, we don’t agree with here at the White House. And that’s fine. You know, they’re identified as such on MSNBC. What is disconcerting to me, though, is that there are times when they, you know, they pretend to take off their advocate hat, and they become objective newsmen and journalists, and you have Brian Williams and Tim Russert sitting down with them like they’re sitting down with Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews like it’s Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite or something.  

HH: Did you ever read Bizarro Superman comic books when you were young, Ed? 

EG: I did, yeah. 

HH: That’s the Bizarro world of journalism over there. 

EG: Right.  

HH: And everything’s upside down. 

EG: Look, I did raise the question. I said it is, it does concern us here at the White House that, you know, the MSNBC attitude could be seeping into the NBC broadcast network’s coverage. 

HH: Clearly, it is. Ed Gillespie from the White House, thank you.   



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MaryStella writes: Friday, May, 23, 2008 11:46 PM
SEEHAWK, Greetings
God Bless you.
You Make me laugh so hard!
You are wonderful!
NeoConScum writes: Friday, May, 23, 2008 10:44 PM
Right You Are, OHM...
Bleak little rodents, eh?

A Value System so in tune with lunacy...or, mid-20th Century Marxism--take your pick--that their Reality has become LIE and their FACT is FICTION. Their Midget World is a ponzi scheme. They believe it, because they must. It is truly similar to late stage chronic alcoholism. One survives on a carefully constructed framework of lies. But, sane people become very tired of their Bullsh!t. Know what I mean? Tiring. Really tiring.
one hot minute writes: Friday, May, 23, 2008 10:03 PM
Midnight in the Garden of Good & Evil

Neo,

You're absolutely right.

Blovie Boy thinks we're the "bad" guys and he believes the Islamic Jihadists are merely some reformable, misunderstood, rough-around-the edges "youths" straight out of an episode of the 1980s Fox TV series "21 Jump Street" who would otherwise be productive members of society if not for the insensitive provocations of the nefarious worldwide web of neo-conservatives.

Similarly, it is why Blovie Boy is really not offended by Reverend Jeremiah Wrong's anti-American screeds or by the fact that Reverend Wrong invited a Hamas sympathizer to write anti-Semitic drivel in his church bulletin.

It's an election season, so just as Obama pretended to support Israel in front of the Jewish group in Boca Raton yesterday, the lefties will likewise all put on their best Winter Solstice suit & tie and place the polished china out on the table in order to look respectable to middle America, while cleverly winking and nodding to DailyKos, Code Pink, MoveOn.org, CAIR, and all the other kooks and haters who wish to see America and Israel defeated.
Last Sunday, Obama insisted Iran is "a tiny threat," while yesterday he solemly stated in front of the aformentioned Florida Jewish group that Iran is an enormous threat to Israel.

He "condemned" Hamas yesterday, oh yeah, but by the way, in an interview with the Atlantic recently, he admitted he "understands" why some of their leaders might support him.

And if Obama "truly" condemns terrorism as he claims, then why can't he condemn Bill Ayres for conspiring to plant bombs in the women's restroom of the Pentagon ?
Surely he must think that anyone who conspires to plant bombs in a women's restroom is a "bad" guy ?
Right ?
NeoConScum writes: Friday, May, 23, 2008 9:12 PM
A86, Cotton, 'Hawk...2
Oh, one follow up observation regarding the mentally deprived Blovie. His reference to "bad guys" is way more than revealing: (Lieberman)"..he has become a pathetic and laughable tool of the BAD GUYS.."(My emphasis.)

Boosh, Cheney, etc. are THE BAD GUYS. Never will you see the useless midget refer to the Dark Age Butchers of Jihad in a strong pejorative. Nope "Bad Guys" is a cheap-sleazy label for the folks most responsible for killing 10's of thousands of "Bad Guys".

Don't you just love the bottomless depravity?
NeoConScum writes: Friday, May, 23, 2008 9:02 PM
My'o'My...Look At The Fun I Missed !
Sheeeesh...Sometimes the piled-on *VIGFM can really interfere with staying abreast of the high drama & highjinks of this thread.

A86, Cotton & 'Hawk...Nice spanking you've handed the Re-Tard contingent.

My very, Very, VERY Favorite laugher here came with the incomparably feckless, Blovie Boy's verdict and contempt for Joe Lieberman. Not worth 3-drops of the Senator's spit.




*Vast Inexpressable GOOD For Mankind*
dudley writes: Friday, May, 23, 2008 4:16 PM
Sadie
Think of how you UKs are built; long heads and noses, small eyes, chalk-white skin, big hips, teeth all over the place (most not much good). How does it help you to attack other people's physical characteristics?
Patriotic Liberal writes: Friday, May, 23, 2008 1:46 AM
Seehawk
You're nuts. You know that, right?
Patriotic Liberal writes: Friday, May, 23, 2008 1:45 AM
Yeah, right..
Only Lieberman has stayed true to the faith. All the other Democrats have strayed. Lieberman, and Lieberman alone, has been the unwavering beacon of fidelity to the principles of FDR, HST, and JFK.

What has happened is Lieberman has become Zellified. Like Zell Miller, he has become a pathetic and laughable tool of the bad guys..
clarityseeker writes: Thursday, May, 22, 2008 8:22 AM
Funny, listening to Democrats...
throw Lieberman under the bus.

Funny, and oh so, predictably pathetic.
SEEHAWK writes: Thursday, May, 22, 2008 7:58 AM
Busgy
If it's nonsense to you it's about right.....
I Corinthians 2:14
SEEHAWK writes: Thursday, May, 22, 2008 7:55 AM
S/A86
It makes me very happy that God gave Olberputz a big fat hiney and little twig arms from slopping shoulders!When he rants he reminds me of the blamphemous dead comic Sam Kennon. Pure bile and venom... similiar to his spiritual father, the devil when he 's relaxing around the hearth plotting humans' demise in the pit of hades.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
S/A86 writes: Thursday, May, 22, 2008 7:20 AM
Neo-Con has it right about Keith
Olberputz:

He is built like Julia Sweeney or Hugh Rodham--- an endomorphic bubble butt.

Speaking of bloated cans, didn't Hugh Rodham collide in holy matrimony with one of Babbling Babs Boxer's imbecilic offspring?

Keith Olberputz has the intellect of a houseplant and it doesn't surprise me that a bottom feeder like Briggsy would view K.O. in vapid anticipation of another tired denouncement of GWB, HH, Dick Cheney or Bill O.
SEEHAWK writes: Thursday, May, 22, 2008 12:52 AM
post this
Okay,okay there has been posting difficulty all day...so don't yell at me about there being two of the above........it probably needed to be said twice anyway.;-)
SEEHAWK writes: Thursday, May, 22, 2008 12:49 AM
Makes dimwits proud?
Keith the OOOgggggeeerrrrMan, actually went after Steve Doosy's college aged son,Peter! Who had the audacity to do a great job interviewing other college kids about their views of the election. Of course the usual M.O. of NBC&MSNBC, editing and twisting and WAAAALAAA, a 19 year old kid is the "worst person in the world!"So much for their deep love of the CHILDREN~~~~ha
Must be just awful being a Nasticrat!
SEEHAWK writes: Thursday, May, 22, 2008 12:48 AM
Makes dimwits proud?
Keith the OOOgggggeeerrrrMan, actually went after Steve Doosy's college aged son,Peter! Who had the audacity to do a great job interviewing other college kids about their views of the election. Of course the usual M.O. of NBC&MSNBC, editing and twisting and WAAAALAAA, a 19 year old kid is the "worst person in the world!"So much for their deep love of the CHILDREN~~~~ha
Must be just awful being a Nasticrat!
Truthseeker writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 10:56 PM
Briggsy
No, Hugh has had the honor of worst person before, a few times. Didn't see KO tonight so what caused him to name Hugh? Just curious!
NeoConScum writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 10:11 PM
Keith Olberman Has THE Largest Caboose
in Televison "Journalist" History! My wife and I sat 3-rows behind Keith and a strange retinue of male staffers a few years ago at Dodger Stadium. NO wonder he nevers stands on his broadcast...NEVER, ever reveals anything south of desktop level. Huge Head, Tiny Shoulders and a Vast Expanse of BEhind. A morbidly funny Triangle!

I always flashback on that detail when he's Pi**ing me off. :-) Now, I share the mirth with you.
Truthseeker writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 7:16 PM
Olberman and Matthews
Are a breath of fresh air. Then turn the channel to Faux (non)News! Hannity makes my stomach churn. He's like that annoying parrot repeating the same phrases over and over and over and over...well you get the idea! And Bill-O - what a joke! And they have as their "analysts" such felons as G. Gordon Liddy and Oliver North! And don't forget disgraced Newter Gingrich and Rove...the list is endless.
dantana writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 6:37 PM
The media today...
is more like the media of the early 1800's when the young newspaper industry was a collection of partisan broadsheets spewing an odd mix of fact, fiction, distortions and outright falsehoods.

The thing was that everyone knew it and each paper was out in the open about their agenda.

Only now, with the fading of their respective papers and the rise of the Internet have the traditional outlets begun to drop the pretense of "objectivity".
KGK writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 6:04 PM
Media hurts
MSNBC and CNN are still viewed in small numbers but the Big 3 still give out the most news to a wide disparate group of Americans. The 3 still sound like liberals but are more respected by the viewers . That is to their harm and to the Networks' shame. That they have towed the liberal line since the 1950's is not argued and when looking back at Uncle Walter and Ed Murrow, they were avuncular libs then and would be today. They have always been allied with the socialist pacifist Dems. Sen. Joe should switch parties but he will not. If he did it now, it would really gum up the works for Reid in the last 6 months of a Bush regime. Zogby thinks the Pubs will lose up to 8 Senate seats so now would be Joe's most impactful time to do it and shame the lousy libs with their 'oh so snobby elitism and European socialist mannerisms.' Americans unfortunately believe the MSM's views on all domestic and foreign issues though those perception are inaccurate according to facts(which Dems rarely deal in).
NeoConScum writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 5:52 PM
Just Think, MOST Dems Used To Be Joe's
way. Mind boggling what's happened to The Party.

Well, one Huge SET beats Hell outta NONE!!
pat writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 1:49 PM
Uncle Joe was a Hit
with the Chicago Cops and Feds detailed to John McCain's Monday visit.

http://hickeysite.blogspot.com/2008/05/john-mccainthe-kite- runner-checks-in.html
Mike writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 1:04 PM
And he says it with a straight face, too
Obama’s campaign promise to deal with the threats posed by Achmadinejad and Chavez by talking with them -- on the grounds that some areas of compromise might be found -- is like a candidate for police commissioner promising to have talks with Al “Scarface” Capone and Bugs Moran, to find areas of compromise with them.

Normally, you’d think such a candidate wouldn’t get anyone’s votes except from those in the Capone and Moran gangs. But then that would be failing to take into account today’s Democratic Party.
winesnob writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 12:25 PM
Lieberman
I can't wait until after the election when the Democrats in the Senate can tell Lieberman to make it official and switch parties. He can then sit on the minority side where he belongs. It's also amusing that Hugh doesn't like the fact there is a counterbalance to the "fair and balanced" propaganda network.
SEEHAWK writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 12:25 PM
PC
As per the last 90 years the propagandists are on the Left.
Joe writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 11:29 AM
Joe Lieberman is a mensch
http://www.answers.com/topic/mensch
pat writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 11:17 AM
Uncle Joe was the hit
of John McCain's recent visit to Chicago. Several Chicago cops and Federal Officer detailed to the John McCain visit were delighted by both men,but Joe Liebermann came in for especially effusive comments.

'This guy is a Man's man.'

'Liebermann would have made a great patrolman.'

& etc.

http://hickeysite.blogspot.com/2008/05/father-undie-ogobhar s-column-obama.html
Joe writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 10:47 AM
Ed Koch on GWB:
Anyone who knows me is aware that I am a proud American and a proud Jew who, while not religiously observant, fiercely loves and defends his faith. It has become fashionable for Americans in general, Jew and gentile, to hold President George W. Bush up to derision. As I believe many readers and listeners of my commentaries know, I crossed party lines in 2004 to support the President's reelection, saying at the time that I did not agree with him on a single domestic issue, but I did believe he was the only one running who appreciated the threat of Islamic terrorism to American values and Western civilization and was prepared to wage a war to defend those values.

I have no regrets for having made that decision and helping the President to win a second term. Today, according to the most recent CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey, "71 percent of the American public disapprove of how Bush is handling his job as President, an all-time high in polling." His position can be compared with that of Harry Truman who left Washington unpopular and alone in 1953. Today, with the passage of time, most historians and certainly the American people, see Truman in a different light, primarily for his willingness to stand firm against Soviet aggression, whether against Greece or South Korea, and proclaim the Truman Doctrine, effectively defending the free world from Soviet efforts to expand their hegemony. Like Truman, George W. Bush, in my view, will be seen as one of the few world leaders who recognized the danger of Islamic terrorism and was willing with Tony Blair to stand up to it and not capitulate.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/history_w ill_redeem_bush.html
Joe writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 10:45 AM
Here is Bill Gillespie (Dem) disparaging
John McCain's military service:

A prominent local Barack Obama backer bashed John McCain's military record Monday, calling the Republican presidential candidate a "self-promoter."

In a nearly-half hour speech, Democratic congressional candidate Bill Gillespie praised Obama, his party's leading White House hopeful...

"Admirals' sons," Gillespie said, unopposed for the Democratic nomination in the 1st Congressional District held by Republican Rep. Jack Kingston, "were treated like royalty. They were privileged people. They were given a silver spoon. Their careers were prepared for them."

Gillespie, a former Army officer who served in Iraq, said McCain was the kind of admiral's son who became a "maverick."

McCain, Gillespie added, was "somebody who needed to stand out, someone that needed to draw attention to themselves and ... was usually out for themselves."

He said his "heart grieves" for McCain's suffering as a POW.

"After that," Gillespie said, "he was somewhat of a celebrity and it went to his head. ... I think he was a self-promoter for the last four years (in the Navy.)

Asked to cite specific examples, Gillespie responded, "I don't have one right now."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Weblogs/TWSFP/TWSFPView.asp#6 987
ScarletPimpernel writes: Wednesday, May, 21, 2008 10:10 AM
right
in 7 1/2 years I think Bush or one of his people has bitten back, what, 3 times? And, on a yearly basis, they only come out to speak slightly more than Punxsutawney Phil. Clueless.
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