Thursday, September 21, 2006
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Chavez's Speech? Blame Bush!!!
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Posted by:
Dean Barnett at
4:01 PM
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We all know that Democrats love to quote Joe Welch. They relish any chance to bellow, “At long last have you no shame?” When they do so, they get to simultaneously tar their opponents with some fancy rhetoric and evoke the specter of America's wicked step-mother, Joe McCarthy.
But today has produced a bona fide occasion to trot out Welch’s justly famous quote.
Hugo Chavez has been up to his typical antics the last couple of days, but this time maddeningly on our own soil. His comments have even drawn a stern rebuke from as relaibly a partisan Democrat as Charlie Rangel.
But Massachusetts congressman William Delahunt offered a considerably more nuanced take on things. While Delahunt did label Chavez’s comments “silly” and “inappropriate,” he offered a clue as to where he thinks the real blame lies. The Boston Globe reports:
Delahunt asserted that the Bush administration's foreign policy deserves some blame for fostering a climate where a world leader could offer such strident denunciations of the American president in front of the General Assembly. He said he would continue to work with the Venezuelan leader to bring discounted oil to his constituents.
``For him to be able to say that puts into context in what low esteem the United States is held, not just in the Islamic world, but all over," Delahunt said.
Democrats are going to wake up on November 8 wondering why their promised landslide refused to materialize. Their echo chamber will assure them that it has to something to do with the wondrous evil genius of Karl Rove and a few crooked Diebold machines.
But the real reason is found in things like Bill Delahunt’s comments. The party has gotten into such a habit of Bush hatred, it can’t stop even for a minute and exhibit some responsible grown-up behavior. For what it’s worth, Delahunt is no Bill Moran or John Conyers. He’s a former prosecutor and firmly in the Democratic mainstream. More’s the pity.
And if by any chance you’re reading, Mr. Delahunt, let me ask you: At long last have you…ah, forget it. I believe you know the rest.
And I know the answer.
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My point about the Guts of Chavez is that he is standing up to the power of the US. That takes guts. And, I didn't say that John Perkins worked directly with Chavez. See the interview here:
http://democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/09/1526251
I'm glad to hear that you mostly agree with my premise, the fact that Venezula's debt has soared. Sure, it was not under Bush, it was in the era between 1971 to 1981. Perkin's story sounds legitimate, and if true, would support the notion that these south and central American nations have been getting the short end of the stick for years.
He said:
"The book was to be dedicated to the presidents of two countries, men who had been his clients whom I respected and thought of as kindred spirits - Jaime Roldós, president of Ecuador, and Omar Torrijos, president of Panama. Both had just died in fiery crashes. Their deaths were not accidental. They were assassinated because they opposed that fraternity of corporate, government, and banking heads whose goal is global empire. We Economic Hit Men failed to bring Roldós and Torrijos around, and the other type of hit men, the CIA-sanctioned jackals who were always right behind us, stepped in."
This is not about Air America, my friend, or your sophomoric remarks. Grow up and face the music. The US is NOT always the good guy, and these poor countries in Central and South America have had about enough.
I just finished a trip through Europe. Trust me, they think Bush is an idiot. That means, he doesn't even rate being called a devil.
Buy Citgo and Boycott Saudi Arabia!
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raylutz sez:
"Chavez has Guts.
I would have had the same comments until I saw a great interview on the Book "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man". He described something I always thought was the case, but here was someone who had the guts to admit it.
First, they "corrupt" the leader. That was this guys's job. That means through money, sex, power, you get them "hooked." Then, once hooked, you force them to take on these ridiculous loans, in the Billions of dollars, and those poor economies can't ever pay back. And, they have to use Halliburton or Bektel for the contracts to build freeways and stuff that most people can't use."
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Yeah well, instead of watching an interview, I read the book you mentioned. I also did some research.
Venezuela's estimated Int'l debt went from $350 mill in 1970 to 10 Billion in 1980 to 20 billion in 1990. In 1989, Public and Private debt was estimated at 35 Billion.
During this period in time, Chavez was either purportedly a paratrooper or in jail for trying to stage a military junta (yeah, there's a lover of the democratic process). Don't believe he was in any position to get "hooked" into taking on massive national debt- so your initial premise is bogus. Moving on....
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"Chavez said, look, I'll pay the bonds, but first, I'm going to take that money and educate our population and get them going. Then, and only then will I pay you back."
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Yeah, how's that working out? True, Venezuela is now the world leader- in terms of firearm related crimes per capita- so I guess that's something, huh? The judiciary of Venezuela is in shambles (filled with chavez stooges), and their constitution has been shredded- for instance, the people are now so "free" that it is a crime to criticize the government, and there are endless reports of chavez backed goons showing up to harass people at rallies for the current opposition candidate (Rosales).
Yeah, he got them going....backward.
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"Sure, they're irritated at Chavez, and the mouthpieces for the bond holders, like Robertson and Bush want to make him look bad.
You have to admit, he's got some guts. I wish more people in this country had as much guts and did not just go along with the "Ditto" crowd."
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Uh, um- how is it that Robertson and Bush are "mouthpieces" for debt racked up starting in the Carter era and including the Clinton era? Why aren't Sandy Berger, Robert Reich, etc. mouthpieces too? And how does Pat Robertson get into this discussion?
Also, you need to check your facts, sport- your hero, the one with "guts", bought $1 billion of Argentina's debt last year, lent them $3 billion this year, and bought $25 million of Ecuador's debt- believe that'd make him a bond holding mouthpiece. What to do, what to do..... your gutsy hero holds south american debt.
And here's a bonus bit for you- Chavez has his greasy fingers in Peru, trying to influence elections there.... uh oh, gutsy hero is acting like the big bad CIA of the 70's. Feet of clay alert, eh genius?
I wish more people in this country had brains and the ability to use google, not just spout nitwitted party line ignorance like the rest of the Air Ameriklowns.
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It must really suck to be a "progressive" the last few weeks. Viva Chavez and Aramadamadingdong are taking the spotlight away from the regular moonbats, the 'Caine mutany has failed, Walmart is going to have voter education for its 1.3 million employees, Rove is bringing gas prices down, W's numbers are up, and now evil Walmart is doing something about prescription drug prices. Maybe Saint Cindy can make a comeback and "Rip Bush a new one!" BTW, where the heck has She been? Last seen hugging Viva Chavez, then a hysterectomy? I call BS, it was an abortion. Mike Malloy gets canned, the wheels are coming off of Err America, the boycott of ABC really worked to keep the "Truth about 9-11" off the air, oh , did I mention that Fitzmas has been cancelled and that a Federal judge has given "Edmund Fitzgerald" a way to keep from sinking and let Scooter go? Just sucks to be you though. |
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I can't love Mark Steyn any more than I already do! UnAmerican Idol! LOL. Here's my question: why wasn't Acmawackjob arrested when he got here? Couldn't we hold him on something? I don't get it. And why is it that the UN aren't condos? That is prime freakin' real estate - water views! Sheesh. Once of Hugh's terrific callers said "cut the money, keep the vote, give 'em like 5K a month and Bush should start the League of Democracies. No terror supporters, phase out of oil imports, drill domestically, and hasten the building of the wall. |
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Doesn't it seem obvious that when last night at Cooper Union assorted lefties of all stripes cheered Chavez that they were just anti-Americans ala that stupid actor, Danny Glover? Then today, at supposedly a black Christian church, the congregation cheered a threatening, biased Chavez. Then at the UN and in our media, the Iranian thug was cheered all at the expense of Bush and American attempts to stop real evil in Islamofascism in the world. Then we have lefties in the media, bloggers, posters who wouldn't know real evil if it bit them in the butt like Keith O and assorted squirrels. To blame America , Bush, Conservs, Christians as the Left routinely does for evil when it the Left over the last 60 years which has supported our international enemies is to throw history out the door. Hopefully, likely voters will remember this in Nov. and throw the Dems out the door! |
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I would have had the same comments until I saw a great interview on the Book "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man". He described something I always thought was the case, but here was someone who had the guts to admit it.
First, they "corrupt" the leader. That was this guys's job. That means through money, sex, power, you get them "hooked." Then, once hooked, you force them to take on these ridiculous loans, in the Billions of dollars, and those poor economies can't ever pay back. And, they have to use Halliburton or Bektel for the contracts to build freeways and stuff that most people can't use.
The bond holders are primarily in the US. It turns out that although Venezuela is a oil producer, about 90% of that revenue goes to pay these bonds, leaving nothing for their country.
Chavez said, look, I'll pay the bonds, but first, I'm going to take that money and educate our population and get them going. Then, and only then will I pay you back.
Sure, they're irritated at Chavez, and the mouthpieces for the bond holders, like Robertson and Bush want to make him look bad.
You have to admit, he's got some guts. I wish more people in this country had as much guts and did not just go along with the "Ditto" crowd.
Buy Citgo and Boycott Saudi Arabia!
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Crap. I will now never be able to look at Boston's beloved Citgo sign the same way. |
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I already do, and have done so for quite a while. I will not benefit from cheaper gas on the backs of Venezuela's underclass. If Chavez is allowed to remain in power, he is going to turn Venezuela into the next Cuba--a stinking death hole!
Check out my post on Chavez and the Democrats. http://josue.townhall.com |
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Well, not exactly, but he does ultimately control Citgo and its profits.
From the Citgo site:
"In September, 1986, Southland sold a 50 percent interest in CITGO to Petróleos de Venezuela, S.A. (PDVSA), the national oil company of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela. PDVSA acquired the remaining half of CITGO in January, 1990...
Petróleos de Venezuela S.A.(PDVSA) is a world energy corporation, owned by the Venezuelan State...
PDVSA is genuinely committed to Venezuela's social and economic development, and is especially active in projects focused on health, education, environment, and local economy.
The State oil company has also begun a review aimed at integrating Social Investment into the framework of a vision of Corporate Social Responsibility that works directly with communities, and emphasizes the development of local small and medium-sized enterprises in oil-related and other sectors, especially cooperatives and microenterprises."
Notice that the "investment" and "enterprises" don't mention any business owners, just working "directly with communities" and "cooperatives", especially.
Delahunt is willing to sell his national pride for cheap oil for his constituents. My guess is that as more Americans find out that Chavez controls Citgo, we'll let him know that we don't want his oil, discounted or not.
Boycott Citgo. |
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After all, being from Massachusetts, he doesn't know anyone who voted for Bush & can't believe he actually won. |
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How can Mr. Delahunt blame President Bush for Hugh Chavez's idiotic comments and behavior? After all Mr. Chavez was just parroting or as Hugh would say echoeing the DNC talking points. By the way did Mr. Chavez properly document his comments to give credit where credit is do and reference Howard Dean and Moveon.org?? If not then maybe Mr. Chavez should be sighted for plagiarism. |
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... but how?
Identify and apply humor.
Check out this site for more about who and what Non-Normies are and how to deal with them and their total lack of reason.
http://www.non-normie.com/combating.php
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Tattoo it on the forehead of every democrat in the country. Then maybe we can at least stop listening to this tired refrain. Can there be any question in the tiny minds on the Left? Are there any minds on the Left? Or is the endless spew generated out of some noxious chemical coctail sloshing around in the vacant brain cases? |
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When will the left realize what a dictator looks like? I find is amazing that lefties like Cindy Sheehan praise "leaders" like Chavez.
Chavez and his government are so f#$%ed up that they try to brand us as the wackos when they fit the bill perfectly.
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I can remember being a very little girl and seeing Kruschev pound his shoe on that podium screaming "We will bury you". I can also remember years later, seeing Mugabe sweating and screaming and blaming all of Africa's problems on Tony Blair. This is nothing new, but it is still bad manners and I am beginning to wonder how much longer the American taxpayer will want to support all this nonsense. |
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