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Thursday, January 18, 2007
On Like Donkey Kong...
Posted by: Mary Katharine Ham at 10:48 AM

I'm on MSNBC at 12:30 p.m. today, talking about Republican rifts on immigration, the war, George Bush, and the party's way forward. The segment is on "The Most" with Alison Stewart. Didn't she used to be the MTV News anchor? Rockin'.


Update: Me on TV! Thanks to Allah for clipping it, and go click over there, so he doesn't get ill at me for swiping the YouTube. Yeah, they did spell my name wrong. Happens all the time. Sheesh.

Update: Roger Simon rolls his eyes at my "partyline palaver," making the assertion that the war was the whole reason Republicans lost. As a 9/11 Republican who votes for Republicans almost solely because of their conduct in the War on Terror and the war in Iraq, I'm not surprised he sees it that way.

But there are a whole lot of conservatives out there who are very unlike Roger and don't view everything the Republicans do through the conditions on the ground in Iraq. There are a whole lot of conservatives and moderates/Republican-leaning folks out there who were ticked off about high spending, corruption, lobbying scandals, earmarking, and the same-old, same-old from Republicans as they had come to expect from Democrats pre-1994. That on top of bad conditions on the ground in Iraq was a killer combo. A CNN poll from Nov. 8 shows corruption as the No. 1 concern, with Iraq in 4th place. In Newsweek post-election polling, the Iraq number is way higher, but the spending and deficit number remains above 50 percent, as does the percentage of folks who are worried Democrats will pull out of Iraq too quickly. Certainly suggests some ambivalence.

I was hearing from those people every time I put up a post about helping out Republicans.

They all said, "Why would I bother to help elect Republicans when they don't act like Republicans? I'm staying home." They were not speaking about the war, but they were formerly committed conservatives who were hoping to spank the Republicans into behaving like Republicans, and maybe get a divided, gridlocked Congress out of the deal, so spending wouldn't go up.

Remember "Culture of Corruption?" There's a reason Democrats hawked the phrase-- because corruption was ticking people off. Remember the Bridge to Nowhere and the hunt for the secret holder? Both took up entire news cycles in the months running up to the election, even though we're in a time of war. Why? Because people care about them, and they exemplified the kind of business-as-usual stuff that made many people angry at the Republican Congress and the administration. What's the only October surprise anyone remembers? Not an Iraq story, as in 2004, but the Foley story-- another situation that inspired anti-incumbent sentiment.

So, was the war part of it? Heck yeah, a big ol' part, but that doesn't mean the fact that Republicans spent six years acting very unlike conservatives had nothing to do with it. If they had kept spending and waste in check, and treated the nation's pocketbook with respect while we're at war, I think they would have been granted a lot more slack on Iraq.

As for "partyline," if it were the Republican party line to actually mind their spending, they wouldn't be where they are today, and I'd be a much happier chick.


 



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rdosser writes: Friday, January, 19, 2007 11:31 PM
Gumption vs. Guts
Hagel has no "gumption" - I see. Would that be this Chuck Hagel?

"Hagel served in Vietnam with his brother Tom in 1968. They served side by side as infantry squad leaders with the U.S. Army’s 9th Infantry Division. Hagel earned many military decorations and honors, including two Purple Hearts."

Say, aren't you prime military service age? Where the hell's your gumption, Mary Kat?
johnP writes: Friday, January, 19, 2007 11:36 PM
Amen
I don't need to reiterate Hagel's service. To say he has no gumption is laughable. Especially by this "Happy Chick".

I'm laughing even harder at your comments at the end of the session with Stewart regarding "transparency" in earmarks. Do you realize it is a DEMOCRATIC majority forcing these changes, KAT? There is fiscally "conservative" and then there is fiscally "responsible". Dems have shown since the 90's that they are of the latter group. Harry Reid is laughing at YOU, honey, not the other way around.

Go drink a latte or whatever it is you do when you are not mucking up the airwaves with your stupidity...
johnP writes: Friday, January, 19, 2007 11:43 PM
And even stupider
I didn't even catch this until reviewing. Kat, you would have the Dems and Hagel stop funding of our troops? Would that show "gumption"? Do you even know what "gumption" means?

To say that if a group doesn't have the "gumption" to end funding of an unjust war means they don't have the "gumption" to win that war is the worst piece of logic I've seen in a LONG TIME. And, YOU SAID IT ON NATIONAL TELEVISION!

Enjoy your 15 seconds of fame...
Sheesh writes: Saturday, January, 20, 2007 8:45 AM
Sheesh!
Sheesh! I am Famous. Sheesh. Democrats bad. Sheesh. Republicans good! Sheesh. Blah, Blah, blah, sheesh, sheesh, sheesh...
Does It Matter writes: Saturday, January, 20, 2007 1:35 PM
Couldn't have summed it up better myself
Please view this link :)

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/01/19/open-thread-374/
JadedMarty writes: Saturday, January, 20, 2007 2:24 PM
Chicken Hawk
Great - yet another idiot BushCo Chicken Hawk, spouting off about things they so obviously know little or nothing about. As my brother, a decorated Viet Nam Vet told me when I was younger & showing my own ignorance by spouting off about "nuking" someone, it's those who've never been to war who usually call loudest for war.

You know nothing, woman - & you have no right to discuss the "gumption" of ANYONE who HAS served in the military. As someone else pointed out, if YOU have so damn much "gumption", why don't YOU sign up & ship out? The military is desperate for folks w/ "gumption" to enlist - & what a fine thing it would be to see you come back w/ an arm or leg blown off.

You ChickenHawks all make me want to puke - either join up or shut up.
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