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Thursday, August 06, 2009
Pope's Opposition to Euthanasia is Personal
Posted by: Matt Lewis at 4:20 PM
With all the talk about health care rationing -- and warnings it could lead to Euthanasia -- this story about The Holy Father seems appropriate to share:

As a boy of fourteen, Joseph Ratzinger had a cousin who had been born with Down's Syndrome, only a bit younger than himself. In 1941, German state "therapists" came to the boy's house and probably informed the parents of the government regulation that prohibited mentally handicapped children from remaining in their parents' home. In spite of the family's pleas, the representatives of the Nazi state took the child away. The Ratzinger family never saw him again. Later the family learned that he had "died," most likely murdered, for being "undesirable," a blemish in the race and a drain on the productivity of the nation. This was Joseph Ratzinger's first experience of a murderous philosophy that asserts that some people are disposable.



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American Sweetheart  writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 4:41 PM
I knew
I liked Pope Benedict for a reason.

And this is just one of many. He is an honorable person.
Bob Munck writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 5:08 PM
Matt Lewis 4:20 PM
"With all the talk about health care rationing -- and warnings it could lead to Euthanasia"

Right-wing scare tactics in full flower. "Obama's going to kill your grandma."
Ann writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 5:12 PM
In denial
The Holy Father has SEEN what happens when a country substitutes eugenics for sound national policy. Most people who voted for Obama and still support his morally bankrupt "health care reform" proposals, have never lived through the horror of the Holocaust. As often as these loyal Obama supporters have heard stories about the Holocaust, they continue to discount the likely consequences of a national eugenics policy as "nothing but propaganda". Morally speaking, this makes Obama's naive supporters equivalent to Holocaust deniers.
NOTW writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 5:23 PM
Munckman
He isn't going to kill her. He just wants her to take a pill until she goes away. That he has clearly stated for the record.
eddie too writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 5:31 PM
The medical decisions of slaves

are made by their masters.

The number one federal regulation of health care and the medical system should be an absolute prohibition of federal government access to individual's private medical records.
Bob Munck writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 5:41 PM
Ann 5:12 PM
"Most people who ... support his morally bankrupt "health care reform" proposals, have never lived through the horror of the Holocaust."

You're equating health care reform with the Holocaust. And you wonder why people don't take you seriously.
April22 writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 5:44 PM
HISTORY OF - NAZI - PUBLIC HEALTH
HISTORY OF PUBLIC HEALTH: NAZI RACIST HYGIENE

The following points are made by Susan Bachrach (New Engl. J. Med. 2004 351:417):

1) In democratic societies, the needs of public health sometimes require citizens to make sacrifices for the greater good, but in Nazi Germany, national or public health -- Volksgesundheit --took complete precedence over individual health care. Physicians and medically trained academics, many of whom were proponents of "racial hygiene", or eugenics, legitimized and helped to implement Nazi policies aiming to "cleanse" German society of people viewed as biologic threats to the nation's health. Racial-hygiene measures began with the mass sterilization of the "genetically diseased" and ended with the near-annihilation of European Jews.

2) The concept of racial hygiene had deep roots in Germany. In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, growing numbers of medical and public health professionals decried Germany's declining birth rate and the perceived biologic "degeneration" of the nation and proposed reforms to improve the quantity and quality of the population. Rapid industrialization and urbanization had created overcrowded cities, with attendant conditions of extensive poverty and crime; the spread of tuberculosis, syphilis, gonorrh, and other contagious diseases; and expanding numbers of persons identified by psychiatrists as mentally ill or retarded, who required special care

http://scienceweek.com/2004/sc041022-4.htm
Bob writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 5:45 PM
The Past is Prologue
This will be our future under ObamaCare.
BelleStarr writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 6:01 PM
It can't happen here
That is what many want to believe. It is denial of the steps movements take. Seat belt use was voluntary, etc. when first started.

It is not a form of liberty or freedom, it is almost animal like in thought. If leftist really believed in overpopulation and the undesirable qualities of some humans, why in the world should they set up suicide hotlines, or do good?

It would defeat the purpose of them having more of everything and not wasting resources on junky humans.
NOTW writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 6:11 PM
BelleStarr
Not sure seatbelts make a good argument. Driving is a privilege not a right, and therefore subject to regulation.

But speaking of seatbelts and Germany. They solved compliance long ago. If you aren't wearing your seatbelt and get into an accident, the insurance company is not responsible for your injury expenses. Afterall, you weren't being responsible to begin with. Its very effective.
Bill writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 6:44 PM
Health Care
The issue from this article is who will determine what is ethical? If the Federal Government has all control over health care it will make the ethical decisions. It is likely that cost will be more than predicted. In order to save face, many will be tempted to cut controls. I think there is a legitimate concern here.
April22 writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 7:26 PM
$500 billion cut to Medicare = Rationing

'...The Congressional majority wants to pay for its $1 trillion to $1.6 trillion health bills with new taxes and a $500 billion cut to Medicare.

This cut will come just as baby boomers turn 65 and increase Medicare enrollment by 30%.

Less money and more patients will necessitate rationing..."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240529702046190045743 20421050552730.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Mike writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 7:52 PM
The Pope also
opposes abortion, the death penalty and pretty much all wars, except when stopping mass murder, like WWII. He and the Catholic Church have positions on both sides of US politics.
Tom Ketchum  writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 7:56 PM
what a surprise
The Nazis were the progresives of their time.We can expect something similair in the future if we stay on our current path. It will be a quality of life issue.
April22 writes: Thursday, August, 06, 2009 8:32 PM
Medicare Cuts= Cancer Centers Close


Medicare Cuts Will Force Many Cancer Centers To Close

29 Jul 2009

A new proposal from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) to cut payments for radiation therapy treatments would cause many cancer centers to close, stop accepting Medicare patients, lay off support staff and reduce services to cancer patients, according to a survey conducted by ASTRO, the American Society for Radiation Oncology.

New technology has allowed radiation oncologists to improve cancer cure rates while reducing side effects. However, on July 13, CMS announced proposed changes to the Medicare policies and payment rates for physician services, including radiation oncology, that would cut payments to radiation therapy services by nearly 20 percent. Community cancer centers, particularly those in rural and suburban areas, would be hardest hit.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/159071.php
Patriotic Liberal writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 8:45 AM
yeah yeah
We know about conservatives who are sympathetic to, say, AIDS because their nephew got it. That's not the point. Any boob can feel strongly about something that they have personally experienced. A man of character is able to put himself into the shoes of others, even if he hasn't personally experienced it.

This pope is a second-rate, unambiguous dipwad.
nihilist writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 9:44 AM
Shame...
This has nothing to do or add to the health-care debate. Matt, you should be ashamed for using a very personal moment of a holy man to shill for your political views.

Bill writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 9:47 AM
Patriotic Liberal is a Klansman?
Your comment on the Pope sounds like something from the KKK: are you a member?
nihilist writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 9:56 AM
Bill
Do you know what the KKK stands for? Do you know what a Klansman is?

I'm guessing not because of your comment above. I'm not defending PL's attack on the pope but come on, think before you post. There is nothing racist or comparable to the KKK in his post.

Please stop throwing around words and groups like KKK, Nazi, Communist for shock value and controversy, it's quickly degrading our politics to the state of a 1st grade recess fight.
Big Sky Cowboy writes: Friday, August, 07, 2009 9:58 AM
Pat Lib
Spoken like the true lazy Catholic you are, we of the not lazy Catholic faith hope to see you for midnight Mass this Christmas, and on Easter Sunday, when all the other lazy Catholics grace our presence with their bi-annual appearence, dig deep in your pockets for the collection basket, your such a giver.
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