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"Rotarian Socialism" is a peculiar form of RINO politics that defines most succinctly as "Three cheers for capitalism, and keep them subsidies, quotas, tariffs, and set-asides coming!"
It's been a powerful part of the Republican approach to pork ever since it used to be the Whig Party.
Now, take note of the stack of "top tier" RINO candidates in the Iowa Caucuses yesterday and how they appealed to Hawkeye State Republicans.
Mitt Romney - an East Coast urban RINO who has no track record of any significance in agribusiness - does abysmally despite spending tons of time and money from one end of I-35 to the other.
Fred Thompson didn't do all that well, either.
Who attracted the votes and why?
Every MSM jerkwad wants to attribute Huckabee's success (and McCain's "surge") to religious faith, sense of humor, or some other plain "home folks" attribute.
But was that really true? Let's see; we had:
(1) The former governor of heavily agribusiness-invested Arkansas and:
(2) A senator from Arizona who has decades of experience in playing the Farmer's Friend when it comes to gouging big bucks out of the national budget.
So in a state where the corn-to-ethanol federal subsidies make a life-or-death difference to Republican farmers and the small business community that depends upon them....
Well, hell. A much more parsimonious explanation than Christian faith is the prospect of continued and expanded big, honkin' checks written out by the U.S. Treasury.
Whenever someone protests his faith and/or patriotism, consider that the purpose is to disguise his expectation that he's going to get paid.
BOHICA, America - courtesy of the Rotarian Socialists of Iowa.
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By a hair true, but dead last...after the guy who didn't even run in the state. Yep, the rEVOLution is in full swing *rolls eyes* I guess there weren't enough White Supremists, Neo-Nazis, CAIR members and bong-hitting Twoofers in Iowa to support "the only man to save America". Reality sucks doesn't it Paulians. Now go cry on Mom's shoulder, retreat to your basement and find some online poll to spam. It'll make you all feel better. |
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Rush was slamming Huckabee and McCain and they were the two biggest surprises in Iowa! In fact a poll showed the g0t the most last minute undecided votes according to Fox. What does this say about Rush?
Rush: No to Huckabee, McCain, and Giuliani
Rush implicitly endorsed Romney and Thompson on his show this afternoon (who happen to also be my top two legitimate choices in this race) by saying this about the other three front-runners:
Limbaugh seemed to swipe at McCain, Huckabee and Rudy Giuliani, respectively, in responding to a caller about which candidate had true conservative bona fides.
“If our nominee is either not conservative and is pandering to the left trying to get some of their votes, or if our nominee is so afraid of his record that he’s relying on identity politics to get votes or if our nominee decides that the only way he can win is to go out and pick off some libs in the northeast and out in the west, it’s going to be a bloodbath,” he predicted of the general election.
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do seem to have quite a "mote" in their eye. I personally know some evangelicals, and I can tell you they do hate Mormons.
Heaven help us if Huckabee is the nominee.
Mitt Romney is very successful in business and economics. He could help our country with fiscal issues that loom ahead. In fact I heard a finance guy on the radio today that said the economy is our biggest threat right now.
But, instead, the U.S. may well have blundering leaders who know little about the economy trying to call the shots.
My consolation is that at least Mitt won't worry. He'll return to his comfy private life and make more bucks. Good for him, he deserves the profits he can reap.
Others of us, well, some will wonder how it might have been, had the most qualified won the race.
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Religious bigots, neo-Nazis, and anti-Mormons unite. Hey boy, at least I am glad you say Huckabee is not a fiscal conservative and foreign policy conservative; and even the social conservative label that you pin on the Huckster is debatable. I wonder if that is why Ann Coulter AND Rush Limbaugh AND Laura Ingraham find your boy so distasteful.
I wonder what will happen when he loses in NH, and Florida? The Huckster will fade into the sunset just like Howard Dean and his infamous scream. Or did Iowa just choose the next Jimmuh Carter? |
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You are a complete fool in your specious arguments! Hey, but don't let your gloating and chest-thumping cease. It's a long race and I hope when the illegals make you start speaking Spanish, you will be happy. Huckabee was named one of the MOST CORRUPT POLITICIANS in America by Judicial Watch. Hey, he raised the Arkansas state budget from $1 billion to $6 billion. Hey, but why should facts get in the way..he has passion and "values"...and can play a bass guitar. Hmmm! I remember another sax-playing buffoon from Hope...what is that boy's name? |
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If you havent been informed by the "Christians" here, only evangelicals are "Christians", all others are angy, immoral,"pseudo Christians".
My guess, Huck tanks anywhere "psuedo Christians" are in the majority.
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Mormons are great people.
But I will not vote for Mitt Romney.
He has the personality of a robot.
And he has flip flop on a lot of issues.
I like Huckabee because he has passion and values, not because he's a Christian.
But I'm voting for Obama.
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that shows the candidates present financial status going into NH? |
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of the punditry is and will be until NH, "Polls showed more than 8 in 10 of Mike Huckabee’s supporters described themselves as evangelicals."
How is the Huck going to overcome being classified as the "evangelical" candidate going forward. Identity politics will backfire on him big time. I suspect in about 5 days the cheers from the Hucksters will turn to tears as they reflect that it was fun while it lasted.
In states with five or ten per cent evangelical supporters, I wonder how the Huck will do? Let's see if these fantastic followers start opening up their wallets and start pouring in the millions in donations necessary for Huck to compete in the next few states.
My guess is the Huck will fizzle fast. I seriously doubt most Americans will be as gullible as this handful of religious fanatics in Iowa. Frankly I am embarrassed for Iowan's, their credibility with me is now zero.
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I just want to say God Bless Iowa. These petty fools who are calling people who live in Iowa idiots are very sad thing to see and are making it clear that they have more in common with smearing and slandering ultra leftists than they do red state conservatives.
Iowa, I'm so proud of you. Most of all I Thank God for a great win for a social conservative and moral leader.
Don't listen to what these negative angry people are saying about you and calling you. They are just being angry liberals. |
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Now dueling banjos is very appropriate. |
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I do hope that one day you and your people will wake up and let go of the hate...
Your arrogance and complete hatred of Romney is so apparent in your comments and attitude, it really makes this evening so sad...
Love thy Neighbor...
Unless he's a Mormon... |
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I never would have believed it could be true - that evangelicals have such hatred for Mormons that they would vote for a slick, deceiving, corrupt and liberal to the core "vote for me, I'm the Christian Leader" Bill Clinton/Jimmy Carter wannabee.
I am stunned, angered and saddened.
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"If a Christian do not vote for Mitt Romney, he or she is called a bigot."
No, a bigot wont vote for a mormon.
Doesnt have anything to do with Mitt Romney.
Dude, you just called everyone that doesnt vote for Huck a "Pseudo Christian", you are a bigot.
With Christians like you, who needs enemies.
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Everything you just said about them was true and it is very obvious.
All of you liberals and fake conservatives, your hurting yourselves bad. Please stop fighting against us social conservatives, we only want to be able to vote for our deeply rooted convictions. They are more than just issues.
And stop supporting Romney just because he is a Mormon. Romney ran to the left of Ted Kennedy, and is not consistant on social conservative values.
All you people screaming bigot, check out what you are saying and how you are acting.
You look just like the ultra left.
I know your guy lost big, and your kind of sour grapes right now, but your making this into something that is not there and will only hurt yourself most of all. |
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I share your frustration. I hope that enough evangelicals in this country don't glom onto Huckabee because of his religion and in spite of his liberal positions. I have noticed that some evangelicals have expressed their own frustrations with Huckabee on this and other blogs. That reassures me.
As a Mormon, I have voted for evangelicals in the past (even against a Mormon), and there are some good conservative evangelicals out there that I admire. Evangelicals needn't worry about me not voting for good conservatives among their ranks. Like you, I am not out to get them out of the party as some might be. (Heck, I really like Hunter.) I am just asking them to be a team player.
It is not all about them. Sure, we need social conservatism. We also NEED fiscal conservatism, and a defense conservatives. Yes, as hard as it is to believe for some Huckabee supporters, high taxes and expensive entitlements are not healthy for a Christian family.
I wonder when some of these people are going to figure out that they can't help Christianity prosper by using the government to do things for the citizens that they can and should do for themselves. Practicing Christian charity with public money never made Americans more generous and kind with their substance and no amount of government social program will change that. |
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As an LDS member, I don't mind people disagreeing with Romney on issues. But I do mind that Huck won in Iowa on a platform of bigotry against Mormons. It can't be denied, either. The push polls, the "Christian Leader", the question to the NYT reporter, Huck claiming to know nothing about LDS beliefs, yet was a key note speaker at an anti-Mormon convention in SLC. Remember how long Huck refused to say whether he beleived Mormonism was a cult?
Huck's only chance was to exploit anti-Mormon sentiment among evangelicals. And it worked.
This is a sad day for America, because of some really pitiful evangelicals who cannot see past their own myopic and hateful world-view, to do what is best for the country. |
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Benito Julie Annie didn't get 11 percent of the vote. He finished with 4 percent in 6th place |
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Real-time Race Results: Updated January 3, 2008 - 11:49 PM (all times Eastern Standard)
Precincts Reporting 86%
Candidate Votes Vote % Delegates Projected Winner
Huckabee 35,621 34% 30 Winner
Romney 26,524 26% 7
Thompson 13,932 13% 0
McCain 13,693 13% 0
Paul 10,184 10% 0
Giuliani 3,613 4% 0
Hunter 458 0% 0
And remember, this victory means very little, if anything. Bob Dole lost Iowa and was the nominee, Pat Buchanan won the caucus and didn't get the nomination!
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If a Christian do not vote for Mitt Romney, he or she is called a bigot.
Please STOP THIS, are you will continue to lose support of Christians.
That's like me saying if you are against illegal immigration you are a racist. |
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dueling banjos in my head... |
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dont get upset about getting your tax exempt status revoked.
John Shaull, who belongs to Huckabee's pastors coalition, said he is sending out e-mails and distributing voter guides from the Iowa Christian Alliance at his church.
"I don't wear my Huckabee sticker on my coat at church; we're just kind of UNDER THE RADAR," said Shaull, who is director of missions for the Baptist Convention of Iowa. "I don't like the terminology, because I know it's a negative connotation, but it's just kind of the pyramid mentality — somebody here shares 10 references with somebody here, who then shares 10 references."
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It's good to see that 107% voted in the Republican caucus. Rudy got 4% not 11%. Why are you so interested in making Ron Paul look like he did worse that he did? |
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You're the friggin problem here...
It's not JUST about abortion or morals...
Get it through your thick, bigoted, myopic head...
Stop looking at this as a one or two issue race...
And stop being so pathetically selfish in that the world revolves around abortion...
Good grief, the hypocrisy of you people...
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Rush, still the caustic conservative, was on FOX at around 12:20 a.m. EST pushing that tired old logic that the DEM want to run against Huck. They have Drudge and Rush all buying this because they want the caustic conservatives to keep bashing Huck because they actually are terrified of Huck's populist appeal. Rush acts like an angry teenager who did not get invited to a party. Like Romney's negative ads, the ongoing negative ad of Rush against Huck only helps Huck. Basically Mitt and Rush and the O'Reilley and Coulter types are all negative at heart, not knowing much about joy and like Happy Huck. |
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taken from a Townhall article
"In interviews as they entered the caucuses, more than half of all the Republicans said they were either born-again or evangelical Christians, and they liked Huckabee more than any of his rivals. Romney led handily among the balance of the Iowa Republican voters, according to the survey."
Proves my fears. |
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You pseudo-christians do not care abortion or morals. You only care about Money (Who will cut my taxes)
As I expected, most of you Conservatives on townhall.com are not true Christians. Most of you are just War-Mongering, Money worshiping hypocrites
Most of you are motivated by Greed, Fear, and Hate. And that’s how you Vote. |
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who needs enemies.
Im sure Synthesizer will paste his %-of people-who-are-biased-against-mormons- post.
Huck wins, without spending money, shocker.
Congratulations Huck, it gets harder without homecourt advantage. |
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I agree that the evangelicals are very important to the Republican party, which is why I have always defended them. But it seems they have suddenly decided that they ARE the Republican Party, that none of the rest of the party's goals are important and that they can win this without the rest of us. They are wrong and they should KNOW BETTER! I was sympathetic when they felt that Guilani was being pushed on them but this is ridiculus.
Huck is a bloody liberal who happens to have some social conservative tendencies, he isn't a Conservative Republican. Rudy is a weak on social issues, McCain back stabs the party whenever it is convienient, Thompson has virtually no ability to create enthusiasm, and Romney is supposedly "slick". What the heck am I supposed to do! I am not going to pick someone who I strongly disagree with so that effectively eliminates Huck, McCain, and Rudy. And supporting Thompson is moot if he doesn't go anywhere. This leaves Romney whose behavior and position shifts are rational in my view, and it drives me nuts that so many others won't accept any explanation for his position changes, as though they have never in their lives changed views on ANYTHING. I have never felt so bloody embarassed to be a Republican in my life. |
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It's bigots like you that really make me feel sick sometimes of being a Republican...
You don't make others feel welcome and at some point, as a party, we either need to wake up and understand that or continue down this road of being beholden to a bunch of bigots and haters such as yourself...
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I got a little carried away with thinking I was in Iowa for a minute. |
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You are so animated by your bigotry that you can't think straight. I know you are young, and so I hope you grow up a little and realize that having those unkind feelings don't help you, they just make you look small and foolish.
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Relax, when the voting hits the South (South Carolina etc.) Fred will take over. Huckabee got the votes in Iowa, not from the Evangelicals, but from the liberal, moderate RINO's. Romney will take New Hampshire, neither Iowa or New Hampshire will vote for the eventual Republican candidate anyway, so chill out.
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Careful, dear. Your bigotry shines through your posts to this thread. Just say you hate Mitt because he's Mormon.
Perhaps you would be offended if I scoffed at your view that you will be sitting your lily white butt on a cloud strumming a lyre for eternity. SCINTILLATING!!!
For a non-believer, that is as much tripe as what you claim Mitt believes.
And as for your comment about NO ONE winning without the Evangelicals....
Someone DID win when they sat their bigoted butts at home. Bill Clinton. Wasn't that a wonderful eight years?
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Romney, Fred and Guiliani are still the only viable and conservative men in the race. (Okay, so Rudy's not that conservative, but he'll do in a pinch.) There's no possible way for Huck or McCain to get the nomination - I dont' care what the talking heads say. It just ain't gonna happen.
Both of them have some anger management issues in addition being miles away from the values of the GOP. It's beyond foolish to think that conservatives are going to completely lose their minds like the dumb-as-a-post evangelicals in Iowa did.
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Evidently it was Sarah that I was talking about. |
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Nobody called Iowans dumb hicks. Just 35% of the GOP caucus-going Iowans. I'm sure that number fits well outside the percentage of population that earn post-secondary degrees. Besides, I won't have to slam NH because Huckster won't win there. |
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win the nomination or presidency without the support of evangelicals - that is a fact. Romney and Obama said they were christian because they understand the reality of this country which is -for any candidate to unite the center-right or center-left, he or she must appeal to christians and minorities. Romney has alienated both so he is out before he even begins - that genius religious speech did not help. Instead it made people wonder about a guy who believes he is a saint waiting to become a god someday and reproduce eternal worshippers - SERIOUSLY! even a Harvard JD/MBA can't help him..... |
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I'm not a religious bigot, that's for sure. If Mitt is the nominee...he'll get my vote in the general. There is a lot to admire about Mitt. Huck is my first choice, though. |
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All of the money and negative ads from Romney only made your supporters more steadfast.
Romney would make a terrible president and his whole approach to this campaign leave a bad taste. He deserved what he got today.
And there are so many sore losers on this site today. Dumb moronic romney supports. how much did he pay all you shills?
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Whoever ends up being the nominee will loose miserably if he picks Romney for VP. Mainstreet republicans who live everyday lives want a presidential nominee who has moral clarity on ALL SOCIAL ISSUES. Romney's values of political expediency are not fooling anyone and picking him as a VP would be a disaster. Anybody but Romney Republicans - the audacity of hope (sorry Obama, even republicans do have hope). |
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Bigotry presents itself in more forms than just racial bigotry. I have never said that Huckster was a racial bigot. I said that he is a religious bigot. I'm not saying that all or most of his supporters are bigots. I'm sure some are. I'm sure many of them just did what their preachers told them God wanted them to do. I know Hucksterbee is a religious bigot.
True, the LDS church had some sad and unfortunate policies cocerning blacks. I can't deny it. I can say that the LDS church was never segregated, like many evangelical churches were. I can also say that the LDS church never supported slavery as many southern churches did. LDS church members never supported the KKK, as some evangelicals certainly did. In fact, one of the major reasons that the Mormons were driven from Missouri under extermination order was that they advocated abolition. Joseph Smith ran for President with abolition as part of his platform.
My point here is not to slander anyone or to paint evangelicals with a broad stroke of bigotry but rather to say to you, don't bring up an area for critism unless your closet is clean in that same area. |
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smart when the polls showed him in the lead. Then IA people like the rest of us begun looking past the designer suits, Harvard JD/MBA and perfect family picture - and found Romney's Record makes him unpredictable and unacceptable as the republican nominee. Now that IA has picked a presidential nominee - and its not Romney - their IQ just went down? Romniacs are you completely insane? Social conservatives (not just evangelicals) see that ROMNEY IS A FAKE! New Hampshire, please make us proud and hand Romney his walking papers - away from the whitehouse. Latter Day Saints! |
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Huckabee represents a lot of Americans. Those who live off the dime. First he lived off Jesus and then off the government as Govornor. He loves Class Welfare, he plays instruments on Jay Leno, He is from Arkansas Sounds to me like BILL CLINTON! |
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NEWS FLASH:
Habitat For Humanities has a great canidate to replace Carter in the Future!
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If you are a Reagan republican that stands social, fiscal, and security conservatives, where do you go after tonight? Huckabee is not it!!! McCain is not it!!!! Wake up and realize that the Rep. party is about to change tonight. Rudy is not the Rep. party!!! Romney may have changed some positions, but at least he has to positions of the party today. Let tonight be a wake up call, get involved! |
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My fellow republicans in IA, you have made me and other conservatives proud tonight. Mitt's money can't buy conservative values - period! New Hampshire, please do not vote for Romney. McCaine has some problems but if he wins, its one less state for Romney. We republicans must let the elites and wall street vendors who have been driving Mitt's stock up realize that his market share in main street is diminishing. No to this lying-dishonest-cant-get-a-grip-about-reality mormon in the whitehouse! This is a good day for americans - lets not get bought! |
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Approx vote tallies:
225,000 Dems
115,000 Pubs
The Pubs just had to waltz in and waltz out, while the Dems had to spend a couple of hours. Yeah, I think the the Democrats are more interested in this race.
For all those unfamiliar with higher education in this country, Iowa consistently ranks at the top with post-secondary degrees. Iowans are not dumb hicks. Good luck putting New Hampshire down next week. |
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Don't they make decisions based on stuff like you jump into a pit of rattle snakes and if you don't get bit you are the "chose one" or something crazy like that?
Oh, this might actually be more interesting than I thought. Huckabees VP selection process needs to be televised!
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All these Kumbaya-singing liberals will get the Oprah crowd mobilized and may damn well get this Liberal Schmuck elected. If we have to accept a Dem POTUS, I prefer Hillary who has at least some centrist ideas, compared to extreme leftist B. Hussein Obama. |
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Is that Giuliani number right? 'cause I do keep seeing him at 4% instead of 11%. |
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Nobody cares that you are reaching for your wallet. There are bigger issues at stake in 2008 than your wallet. |
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I have now been made a liar by Iowa, damn you! For years I argued in high school, college, and at work against every liberal I met who argued that the christian portion of the party was made up of brainless bible thumpers who would vote for any canidate who said he was christian and prolife. And I said no, no, no, the Republican party is made up of rational people who see the big picture that every facet of conservativeism is important and that they would always vote for the canidate who best represented that ideal which does include religious belief and a prolife viewpoint but isn't defined by it. And then Iowa goes and says Huckabee is their man.
I like Romney and Thompson and could vote for them in an instant. I could grit my teeth and vote for Guilani. I could even vote for McCain if I absolutely had to and then feel really irritated about it. But Huckabee? I don't think I can vote for him, period. Not even against Hillary and I am a hard core conservative. I would sooner stay at home on election night and try real hard not to think about it. Because if he were to become president, I would have no leg to stand on for four years. I can't support him, and if he were elected I couldn't defend him because I would have to lie about what I believe to do so. I also couldn't do it because I feel we would be electing a democrat in republican clothing and this would really kill the party and I don't think I can participate in political suicide.
So please, Huck supporters, think about what you are about to do should you continue to win because I guarantee I won't be the only conservative to get a sudden case of apathy if Huckabee is the nominee.
I just hope that the people who say Iowa isn't all that important are right. Mitt Romney or Thompson are the only rational choices. |
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I support Huckabee not out of bigotry. I am not Christian. I'm an atheist. I support Huckabee because he's closest to me on the issues dearest to me. Romney came close to winning me over, but I always had that element of doubt and a lack of trust regarding the authenticity of his conversion to social conservatism. Nevertheless, I bid no ill will to you or Mitt Romney, and look forward to future contests and wish Mike Huckabee continued success in all his endeavors. |
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I called this election on November 30.
Huckabee will be the President, warts and all, so get used to it minions!
http://tinyurl.com/ytjzfb
http://yourjewishmaster.blogspot.com/ |
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i am sincerely shocked at the anti-Christian posts on this thread.
what hypocrisy
for years i have been on this website defending the idea that liberals can be Christians.
comment after comment from conservatives said liberals and democrats hated Christians and then i come here tonight and see the most vile and insulting comments i have ever seen about Christians.
for years, conservatives acted as though they were the party of Christians and now that those Christians came out and voted for someone you dislike they are your enemies.
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With McCain coming in third in front of Thompson, and the Great Phony getting trounced, this has been a great night for McCain. He'll likely win NH now, and Thompson is likely to fall out of the race and give him an endorsement. Won't help a ton in NH, but should help in SC. As a guy who thinks McCain is the right man for our next president, this has been a great night. Congrats to Huckabee though, who is looking strong to be the VP when all is said and done, and that's if he doesn't pull the whole thing off and win the nomination. |
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To say that people are idiots and ignorant for voting for Huck is an ignorant comment in and of itself. Talk about immaturity and sour grapes. Grow up. I personally have a hard time believing that any conservative Republican would either vote for Rudy who is extremely liberal on social issues or Romney who has spent his life pushing for a pro-abortion and pro-gay agenda and shifts his positions wherever the political winds may take him. How pathetic that he spends 20 million dollars in Iowa and leaves with his tail between his legs. Sorry to disappoint you Republican elitists--there is a new star and a new frontrunner in the Republican party and that is Mike Huckabee. Way to go Huck! |
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Huck, a bigot? The guy pulled in almost 50% of the African-American vote in his last election as governor. I think it's the LDS that has a fairly recent history of bigotry against African-Americans. No, I don't think Mitt Romney shares those beliefs...but I also don't think Huckabee is any kind of a bigot, either. |
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Let's see, The Huckster got 34 percent, Mitt 25%. Evangelicals were 60 percent of the caucus-goers this year, compared with 40 percent in 2004. If my math is correct, if we exclude the extra 20 percent which were hyped by the Evangelical pastors to go to the polls to keep that "heretic" (Mitt) from gaining the nomination, the Huckster would have had 22 percent, and Mitt would have won.
Is my math correct? Why must Evangelical pastors be so negative - they don't sound like Christians to me |
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Liberals will criticize my statements as bigoted, selfish, and elitist, because (1) my family is upper middle class (2) white (3) Catholic and (4) Republican. Yet Liberals cannot deny that candidates like Obama offer my family nothing. Obama wants to take from my family, whether its wealth, tradition, or other intangibles linked with our family bio. Obama offers my family nothing, nothing at all. From his ridiculous novice view of international relations to his income re-distribution schemes, Obama offers nothing substantial. America will founder as Liberals try to bring society down to its lowest denominator, as opposed to encouraging everyone to greater heights. How depressing a future I see under an Obama presidency. I will say, right gere and now,, I would much prefer a more centrist presidency under Queen Hillary than Obama, who leans much, much more to the socialist left. |
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How could you bumpkin Baptists choose Huckabee over the Baptist with a brain--Duncan Hunter? I don't understand you people. In your pious indignation, you needed an evangelical candidate to knock the Mormon Romney out of the lead. Why couldn't you give your support to the one Baptist that we could all unite behind? Hunter would be a great President, an intelligent, serious, heroic leader for a time of crisis. Instead you promote this lightweight preacher-boy.
If Hunter drops out after this, I will turn to Thompson.
Echoing some of the others who've posted here, if Huckabee wins the nomination, I will not vote for this brainless, embarassing Gomer. He is the only Republican in the race I would say that about.
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Bryan-
You are correct. It is amazing to me that Iowa gets as much play as it does. They obviously don't do any research on the candidates. Then they freak out when a candidate tries to point out the truth about another. I am not a Romney supporter. I haven't decided who I will support but all the research that I have done indicates that everything Romney said concerning Hucksterbee was true.
Also, evangelicals need to remember that there are other religious groups that help them make up the Social Conservative wing of the GOP. Mormons for instance constitute a sizeable population in the West. Arizona, Utah, Idaho, Nevada and Wyoming all have significant Mormon populations. Mormons won't have an issue voting for an evangelical. They will have a problem voting for one who is an anti-Mormon bigot. Try winning the General without Utah, Idaho and/or Arizona. Won't happen.
SteveL-
In answer to your question, NO. I won't support someone who is obviously a bigot. I abhor bigotry in all its forms. Hucksterbee is a bigot. I have been considering switching to independent or the Constitution party for some time. Hucksterbee would push me over the edge. He is a fraud, a bigot, a liberal and a joke. |
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This man is just a big government phony! Just say no to Tax Hike Mike! |
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I wonder how many of them will be voting for Rudy come November because they just gave him a ticket to the nomination. How fun that would be to see their faces when they finally realize it. |
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B. Hussein Obama wants to lift the cap on income subject to self-employment taxes, presently set at $97,500, so all income is subject to the additional 15.68% tax. That will cost me thousands of dollars on top of all the other planned increases that jerk wants to impose on upper middle class families. I earned my way to my present station in life. Why should I be penalized for honest, hard work in achieving the American dream? Why would anyone similarly situated vote for B. Hussein Obama? The advancement of Social engineering, income re-distribution, affirmative action, secular progressivism, multiculturalism, socialism, and other liberal idiocies? Can any Liberal provide specific reasons why I should want B. Hussein Obama as POTUS, aside from generic expressions of "its the right thing to do", which are wholly insufficient. Liberals look at this election like its an altruistic game. This election will have consequences and I will, in fact, pay thousands of dollars in extra taxes to support New Deal socialist philosophies of no consequence. |
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Maybe Rudy got it right! If you are not an evangelical, don't run in Iowa. They have now picked Pat Robertson and Mike Huckabee. |
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Huckabee will never survive the next week. His record is terrible. If he thinks he is bleeding now, wait until tomorrow! |
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The Republican Party was hi-jacked by the Wall Street crowd. What has the party done for the social conservatives, lately? Bush even tried to get liberal Harriet Meiers on the SCOTUS, before he was slapped down and nominated Alito. The Republican Party rose to the dizzying heights because Reagan was able to bring numbers to the party it didn't have before -- middle class suburbanites, social conservatives, blue collar folks, evangelicals. Without them, the Republican Party isn't capable of winning at the national level. those folks were being ignored in the last few years and it came back to bite the Wall Street crowd at the RNC in the rear tonight. People aren't stupid. They have enough common sense to know the Republican Party has been ignoring the average American voter for years. They are ready to buck the establishment and they are either going for Huckabee or McCain. |
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I can't wait to find out who paid for the illegal, bigoted push polls against Mitt Romney, a very decent man.
Too bad the judge in Oregon will not let the trial proceed until after the New Hampshire primary.
Huckabigots and his bigoted supporters will be unmasked, at last.
Bigotry is alive and well.
Huckabilly did a good job of fomenting sectarian strife. Al Sadr does a good job of it too. Power based on bigotry is wrong wrong wrong.
In the Summer, Huck's people were anti-catholic to get rid of brownback at the straw poll...then anti-mormon...then anti-you. Their flavor of Christianity is not a majority in this country and it by kicking the most solidly republican voting block out of the party (mormons) you will lose big time in the west. You will lose senate seats (Oregon) and house seats (Washington) and many local races, as well. don't believe me? stopbigots.com tells you why.
bigotry is evil, unChristian, but then again, the blasphemous Huckabee isn't really Christian, anyway, the way he profanely, vulgarly uses the name of the Lord in vain ("Jesus juice" Come on!! unbelievable for a self-appointed "pastor")
judicialwatch.org top ten most corrupt politicians. |
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HUGH HEWITT AND RUSH LIMBAUGH BOTH THREATEN LOSING THEIR LISTENER BASE. They both are an embarrassment to the Republican Party and Americas conservatives. They are becoming more out of touch with their base every day. Perhaps they are connected among the political masons. Their ship is sinking.
The Shift in Momentum IS FOR PRESIDENT HUCKABEE in 2008
Mike Huckabee is presidential material and is alone able to defeat Hillary & Obama. I am now convinced that those wealthier donors to Romney's, Giuliani's, and Thompson's campaign have wasted their money and if they continue, are wasting their hard earned money on candidates who do not have voter appeal or substance. As a member of the younger generation, I will tell you point blank, Romney, Giuliani, and Thompson DO NOT connect with us.
ROMENY has run out of gas. He has been the worst investment money could buy. His persecution complex makes him so defensive, weepy and wimpy that he cracks under pressure. . His fake, calculated tears make him look like a BIG WEENIE before now Czar Putin in mother Russia and rest of the world. Romneys negative campaigning reveals his unprofessional desperation and that he is really an unkind angry old man. BOTH Romney's and Giuliani's flip flop past makes them a liability and not an asset for republicans in 2008.
Every time Huckabee is heard his approval amongst Republicans and Democrats increases even WITHOUT major financial support. Just imagine what would happen if he got the major financial support. He is the Republican's secret weapon in the 2008 election. Huckabee's proven leadership can help bring America together as a team.
Huckabee is the BEST candidate because he not only attracts republicans but also democrats to his side without compromising his principles. Both side support is needed to win this election in 2008 and he has it.
WHY HUCKABEE WINS THE NOMINATION and the PRESIDENCY
http://evolutionfacts.townhall.com
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Some Iowans got confused. They thought that a vote for Mike Huckabee was a vote for Chuck Norris. |
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wow, lots of people freakin' out about one caucus, the true test comes feb. 5, thats when the real show comes to town boys and girls!
Airfoil, that is a great post, can I license that john edwards line? FLMAO |
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It's possible for Rudy to pull it off, but I doubt it. If Huck winds up as someone's running mate, it will be McCain's running mate. Rudy and McCain would be going head to head for the same voters...and I don't think Rudy can beat McCain straight up. |
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What scares me is extremism in either camp. Are the Evangelicals crazy or just plain stupid? Huckabee would be eaten up and spit out by the Demo machine. What a field day Carville would have, eh? Hey far right, how 'bout we nominate someone who has appeal to the Independents we have to have to win the general election. I'm one of those, though my heart will always pull for the Rep's. You guys want to nominate Huckabee? Great. Then get used to the term "madam president". These crazies in Iowa are exactly why I registered as an Indi last year. I woke up and realized the party of Reagan I had associated myself with for 25 years had been hijacked by the religious right.
All that said, a Romney, McCain or possibly Guiliani will pull off a victory in the general. You will never convince me Hillary is electible. Too many negatives. She just doesn't play well in Peoria, period. |
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Jeez...some of you folks must just love to have the corporatists rule you. You think Bloomberg is going to pledge to appoint strict constructionist judges? |
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Burley says: "Here is one Republican that will leave the party if Huckabee is the nominee."
Can you at least stomach Huckabee as someone else's running mate? Because as things look now, that's where Huck will end up: As the running mate of McCain or Giuliani.
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If Huckabee some how manages to get the nomination, my inferiority complex will be maxed out. I can't associate with a party that will nominate a moron like Huck. We don't need our own Jimmy Carter. |
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Huckabee will NOT be the GOP nominee.
But if Romney loses New Hampshire to McCain now, Romney will not be the GOP nominee either.
Romney's momentum will come to a screeching halt, and then it will be between McCain and Giuliani.
On The Tonight Show yesterday, Huck laced it into Romney but had only praise for McCain. And Huck has never slammed Giuliani either.
That should tell you what Huck is doing: Campaigning to be the running mate of either McCain or Giuliani. But Huck wants very much to take Romney down first.
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I knew you could do it! May you continue with such success in future contests! |
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If they're my choice, I'll go third party where my principles are actually embraced rather than mocked.
http://www.constitutionparty.org
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Republicans better get their act together. Obama and Huckabee win tonight and every Reagan republican is lost!!! It seems we may be left with Huckabee and McCain (if you want to believe the media), both have a raising taxes record and soft on immigration. Rally around Romney, the only chance for a real republican, or I start giving to Bloomberg! |
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It's going to be Huckabee/McCain or McCain/Huckabee. You may not like it, but get used to it. |
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Nichols, Russell and Kathleen Burge. 27 April 2006. "Romney names 4 women to bench
Seen as response to call for diversity" _The Boston Globe_
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/04/27/romney _names_4_women_to_bench/
Governor Mitt Romney, under pressure to name
more women to the bench, yesterday nominated
three current or former prosecutors and a top official
from the Menino administration in what aides
boasted is the largest number of female candidates
ever brought forward at once.
Kathe M. Tuttman of Andover and Merita A.
Hopkins of Boston were nominated as associate
justices of the Superior Court;
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''The governor felt he wasn't getting enough female
and minority candidates," said Romney spokesman
Eric Fehrnstrom. ''The governor is interested in
making sure that appointments to the bench, to the
extent possible, reflect the diversity of the
community at large."
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Tuttman and Hopkins are registered Democrats.
Lyons is a Republican. Wright is registered as
unaffiliated with any political party.
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Romney has argued that political views don't matter
when it comes to enforcing the law.
Romney's stellar judicial appointments
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=9380a1ac-650e-4e62-a8a 8-cc86e06ca2a1%40q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com
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"I'm going back to my early years
when I campaigned for my first Republican,
JFK. The world is upside down. I am a feminist
so I will vote for the only woman in the race
in California. John Edwards.
I have a headache"
I decided that I'm going to make a top 10 list of dumbest posts and best posts. As of today your post is Nr 1 on my list for best Posts.
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I happen to be an evangelical Christian myself, but want nothing to do with Huckabee whatsoever. Huckabee is about as conservative as Ron Paul is sane. Disappointed as I am in the Huckabee results, I'm looking forward to his run being concluded next week in NH (I sincerely hope).
The Republican party had better wake the *?!l up and get back to it's values which are sadly unrepresented in the 2008 presidential race. I believe CheyennePress accurately portrayed Huckabee's positions (or lack thereof). I would only add that Huckabee isn't ready for the U.S. House or Senate, and really isn't ready for the Presidency.
Make no mistake about this fellow Townhallers, Huckabee is NOT a conservative. Huckabee is a populist. That's why you see people here expressing so much grief regarding tonights Iowa results.
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There's a reason Paul is doing as well as Guillani. Guillani basically blew off Iowa and was concentrating on other states more important than Iowa. Makes a difference.
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Poor Fred Barnes looks like he's going to be ill. He can barely spit out his words, he's so shaken that Romney was trounced by Huckabee. The chattering class is a little bit worried an actual populist might break through with the nomination. |
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Huck has influence over the churches.
Now if Huck is the nominee, the GOP will lose my vote to Bloomberg, Obama, or Libertarian |
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when I campaigned for my first Republican,
JFK. The world is upside down. I am a feminist
so I will vote for the only woman in the race
in California. John Edwards.
I have a headache. |
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Hit him on his experience. He has none. He's never run anything in his life - not even a coffee shop. Leading is partially a gift, but it's also a skill. To hand the reins of the presidency over to someone who hasn't so much as led a parade?
I think that Rudy will taste blood in the water.
Of course, if Huck's the nominee, Obama will run away with it. Huck's an idiot. |
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And insult iowans for their apparent lack of intellect (seriously guys, that's just not wise) I still think they are making a mistake by going for Huckabee. Yet that just confirms my long belief that Iowa, while in some senses useful, does not deserve the influence that it has on politics, especially considering their ethanol lobby and the fact that people of both parties are nowhere near represenative samples of their parties as a whole. (Iowans are more socially conservative in both parties, and more anti-war amongst the conservative flank.)
Yet I'm still not too worried. Rollins and co have already conceded NH, and he probably won't win MI either. his only chance is in SC to ressurect, but I don't think that will happen either.
Now I have to give some thought..... As a man who always wants to make a deal in the interest of the conservative coalition, can I support one who openly despises that coalition, and wants to see it sundered? Are the times changing? That may be the debate we have to have. |
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when I campaigned for my first Republican,
JFK. The world is upside down. I am a feminist
so I will vote for the only woman in the race
in California. John Edwards.
I have a headache. |
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If Obama knocks Clinton off in NH and then SC, I think Hillary is done. What will the GOP fear machine do with that?
Rudy must be terrified. |
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CNN initially misreported Giuliani with 50% of the vote. He's behind Paul again. :) |
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Well, now that the poll has been updated Paul is behind Giuliani, thereby making my last post obsolete. Giuliani slaughtered Linn County with 50% of the vote. |
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9:30 pm EST
Townhall, biased as usual.
Will Townhall continue to ignore true conservatives and bury the republican party as it veers LEFTWARD?
You have a choice Townhall. You will remain conservatives or become liberals. |
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Ok - the mean IQ in Iowa has just been demonstrated to be significantly lower than the rest of the country.
I'll never respect an Iowan again. |
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The Shift in Momentum IS FOR PRESIDENT HUCKABEE in 2008
Mike Huckabee is presidential material and is alone able to defeat Hillary & Obama. I am now convinced that those wealthier donors to Romney's, Giuliani's, and Thompson's campaign have wasted their money and if they continue, are wasting their hard earned money on candidates who do not have voter appeal or substance. As a member of the younger generation, I will tell you point blank, Romney, Giuliani, and Thompson DO NOT connect with us.
ROMENY has run out of gas. He has been the worst investment money could buy. His persecution complex makes him so defensive, weepy and wimpy that he cracks under pressure. . His fake, calculated tears make him look like a BIG WEENIE before now Czar Putin in mother Russia and rest of the world. Romneys negative campaigning reveals his unprofessional desperation and that he is really an unkind angry old man. BOTH Romney's and Giuliani's flip flop past makes them a liability and not an asset for republicans in 2008.
Every time Huckabee is heard his approval amongst Republicans and Democrats increases even WITHOUT major financial support. Just imagine what would happen if he got the major financial support. He is the Republican's secret weapon in the 2008 election. Huckabee's proven leadership can help bring America together as a team.
Huckabee is the BEST candidate because he not only attracts republicans but also democrats to his side without compromising his principles. Both side support is needed to win this election in 2008 and he has it.
WHY HUCKABEE WINS THE NOMINATION and the PRESIDENCY
http://evolutionfacts.townhall.com
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This guy is the worst GOP candidate I have seen in a long time. Horrible. He's a radical religious fanatic. He will get DESTROYED by the Democrat candidate. Have fun getting your taxes raised, evangelicals. |
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I cannot believe this fraud is pulling off a major victory like this.
The man who talks about what we have to offer Iran, who raised spending by 65%, who favors illegals, who opposes free trade, who was as soft on crime as humanly possible, has just won the first step to the GOP nomination. Ladies and gents, the Glass Jaw has entered the building.
Why? Because he was a minister who gave up his divine calling to enter politics. *Rolls Eyes* |
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"It seems that about 35% of Iowa Republican caucus-goers are in the bottom 1% of the nation intellectually. Good job Iowa. You cast a vote in favor of bigotry and unintelligible foreign and fiscal policy. It seems that you all stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night."
This comment just gave me a good laugh. |
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It seems that about 35% of Iowa Republican caucus-goers are in the bottom 1% of the nation intellectually. Good job Iowa. You cast a vote in favor of bigotry and unintelligible foreign and fiscal policy. It seems that you all stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Are they really so desperate to exclude Ron Paul that they lump him in "other" so it doesn't show him trouncing Giuliani? |
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You feeling OK?...
Fox just called the race for Huck... |
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